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Order, order. Questions to the Secretary of State for Work and

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Pensions, Mr Martin Day. Number one. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will answer

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questions one and 23 together. Work is the best route out of poverty and

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the benefit cap has been successful in encouraging people into work.

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Since its introduction almost 62% of households in Scotland have found

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work, reduced their housing benefit claim, after having had their

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benefits capped. Does the Minister agree with paragraph 90 of the

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fiscal framework which states, the governments have also agreed that

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the UK Government's benefit cap will be adjusted to accommodate any

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additional benefit payments introduced by the Scottish

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Government? Indeed, of course we agree with the fiscal framework

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since the government drew it up in conjunction with the Scottish

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Government. Indeed, the Scottish Government already has extensive

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powers in the benefits area if it wished to introduce them. The fact

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it does not is a matter for him to take up with his colleagues in the

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Scottish Government. Writing in the daily record the First Minister of

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Scotland has commented the Scottish Government have yet to receive

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confirmation from the UK Government that they will abolish the bedroom

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tax. With the Secretary of State take this opportunity to guarantee

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there will be no claw-back of funding when Scotland abolishes the

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bedroom tax? I can refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I

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gave his honourable friend. It is for the Scottish Government to take

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decisions. They have the power to give benefits, to increase benefits,

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to make supplementary payments if they like beyond the benefits

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available throughout the UK. Despite having those powers, they failed to

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exercise those powers and the SNP members come to this has to complain

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about benefits in Scotland when they have the power to do something about

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it themselves. Given that I support the government strategy in this

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area, mac he also accept that those who supported have concerns on what

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might be happening certainly in the short term for families affected?

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May I ask him what research he is carrying out to make sure that those

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who can move into work do move into it and those who cannot I look that

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sympathetically? The right honourable gentleman makes a

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characteristically reasonable point. First, those who are put into

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hardship have the availability of discretionary housing payments which

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have been extensively used by local authorities throughout the country

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precisely to avoid the problem that he suggests. Some of the research we

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have done shows on the other point he makes that households have been

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capped and 41% more likely to go into work than similar households

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that are not capped. The policy is successful in encouraging people to

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get back to work which is the best thing for them in the long run.

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During the passage of the Scotland Bill UK ministers gave me and others

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clear assurances that any income derived from new benefits or top ups

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introduced by the Scottish Government would not be clawed back

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from claimants through the benefit cap or other forms of means testing.

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Will the Secretary of State give a cast iron assurance today that this

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is still the UK Government's position. The UK Government's

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position has not changed at all, nor has the Scottish Government's

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permission that they are not prepared to exercise the powers they

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have got. That is just nonsense, they are working towards a timetable

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already published. Will the Secretary of State now commit that

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he, his ministers and officials engage positively with Scottish

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ministers as they use those new powers to abolish the bedroom tax in

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Scotland? Both I and my ministers and officials engage positively with

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the Scottish Government all the time. I go to the meetings and have

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engaged positively with the Scottish Government on this and all the other

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important issues we have to discuss in this field. Number two. With

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permission I will answer questions two and ate together. We have been

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seeking views on this through the work, health and disability green

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paper. We are also investing 100 million in trialling employment

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trials to in. I had right honourable friend for that reply. She agreed

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that local voluntary groups do invaluable work helping people to be

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work ready and we must do more to support them? I agree with my

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honourable friend that voluntary organisations have huge insight and

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expertise that we can tap into and commend the work of Talk It Out in

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his constituency. We are recruiting 200 community partners so we can

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ensure we are reaching all those organisations and benefiting from

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the huge experience they have. Can the Minister say what consideration

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has been given to providing tax breaks to employers who hire

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employees with a certified mental health illness as proposed by the

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National Autistic Society and others. The honourable gentleman has

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hit on a theme of the green paper. There is much work going on in this

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area both for those with mental illness and also those with a

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learning disability. Just to mention one health trial going on at the

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moment looking at discounting business rates for employers that

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have good mental health practice. The government's laudable aspiration

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to half disability employment gap is meaningless without a date attached

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to it. Can the Minister tell us what is her latest assessment of how long

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it will take to half that gap? The target of halving the disability

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employment gap is at one time both hugely ambitious and also hugely

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underwhelming. What we should be working to is to ensure that

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everyone can reach their full potential. What I have asked the

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department to do, and his office will have been supplied with this,

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is to look at what is the local need in all of our constituencies? How

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many people with a learning disability we need do we need can

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get into work? Those are the numbers we need to focus on, not some

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arbitrary formula which will change with other factors. The labour

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market survey will still contain all the measures it has had in the past,

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but if we are going to crack this, we need to focus everyone locally on

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those numbers locally. Again I agree with the aim of what the Minister

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has outlined, but in my constituency office the overwhelming issue,

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particularly for those with mental health conditions, is the assessment

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process for personal independence payments which is causing real

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distress and is causing individuals great worry about their futures and

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being able to support themselves. I welcome working with local partners

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because at the moment the system is not working and the sooner this

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government realises it, the better. I thank the honourable gentleman for

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his comments. We clearly are looking to reform the work capability

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assessment on ESA. That does afford us some opportunities to look at the

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PIP assessment process. There are many improvements going on to that

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already. But if we can ensure that both the systems are sharing data

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properly we should be able to reduce the burden on the claimant. What is

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the government doing to raise awareness of the access to work

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programme and the support it can offer to employers who want to make

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reasonable adjustments to employees with disabilities? The access to

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work scheme is a popular scheme and it is just one scheme that the

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government provides to give support and financial support to employers.

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One of the ways we are publicising that is through the disability

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confidence scheme. We relaunched that last year in autumn and it has

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now got about 4000 organisations signed up to it and that is one way

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we can ensure employers really do understand the support that is there

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for them and what huge talent and inside these people can bring to

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their workforce. Many people with health problems paid the bedroom

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tax. Three months ago the government lost three courses in the Supreme

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Court. How has the department identified those who should not be

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paying? When will those burdened by this stop having to pay? There is a

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discretionary fund administered at a local level. Many local authorities

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have not accessed that funds, but for the vast majority of people and

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those disabled people, they are exempt from the scheme. If the

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honourable gentleman has examples, he should write to us and let us

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know. What is the government doing to draw upon the expertise in

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charities and other third sector organisations about the best way to

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support the most in need into the workplace as many charities have a

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lot of experience in supporting those with mental health conditions?

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In addition to the community partners we are recruiting, we are

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also looking at opportunities for where the sector can increase the

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services it already provides and cried and income from it. One

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example of that is our one-stop shop have for employers were chatting can

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be a shop window for many of the organisations that are providing

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support already for employers and want to do more. Mr Speaker, on

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hearsay and thick assessments for those with mental illnesses, can she

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say a bit more -- on EASA and HIC, I have got four Comanche knows of one

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of them because she has written to me about it where the wrong

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information has been cut and pasted into the mandatory consideration

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letter and it is about other people. I would point out only 3% of those

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decisions overturned. The vast majority of these assessments are

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good. When you have examples of where that is not happening please

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never know but one thing I have done to ensure we are getting more timely

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information about where things are going wrong, where standards are not

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being maintained, going live in the next few weeks we will have a

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claimant user rep panel. This will be across the country, it will be on

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a very large-scale, and we will be able to get more timely information

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about where things are going wrong. In the meantime, the Honourable Lady

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must keep flagging issues she finds. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Perhaps the

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Minister would also talk a bit more about the ESA assessments, with

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particularly regard to clauses 29 and 35, obviously causing much

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distress to disabled people? Thank you. We are looking at the

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assessment process. Already a huge amount has been done to ensure that

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assessors and also those in power Jobcentre plus network have been

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trained in order that they can really recognise the needs of those

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with a mental health condition and Insua what they are doing is fit for

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purpose. But we do have an opportunity with the green paper on

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work and health to re-evaluate entirely those assessment processes,

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primarily for ESA but that will also build some benefit for PIP. People

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with mental health conditions and daughters and told me of the

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difficulties they face getting into work when I met with him recently in

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Bristol. They also told me about the issues with PIP, by capability

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assessments, sanctions and for those in ESA, support group, their fear

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that the grief it was are they will be targeted next after cuts to

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people on ESA in April. However as the government justify cuts,

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Jobcentre closures and the liberal use of sanctions as helping disabled

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people into work when there is overwhelming evidence to the

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contrary? We are doing more for this group of people. That is why despite

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the honourable lady's calls for me to pull the personalised support

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package that is coming in April, I will not. The number of young people

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in work has increased by 235,000 since 2010, and is up 38,000 in the

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past three months. Nearly nine in ten young people are in education or

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work and youth and deployment is the lowest it has been since 2005. I

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warmly welcome the fact that the youth employment jobs are near

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record levels. Will the Secretary of State join me in welcoming the work

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of the Dorset young chamber which helps to match individual businesses

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in and around my constituency with particular schools, and helps to

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bridge the gap between education and employment? I am very happy to join

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my honourable friend in welcoming the work of the Dorset young

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chamber. I have seen how my own local Chamber of Commerce does great

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work in schools as well. And I know that he, as he is chairman of the

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APPG free youth unemployment will be pleased to know that in his

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constituency the youth claimant count has gone down by 74% since

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2010 and down 7% in the last year alone. In Newcastle central we have

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more young people claiming benefits this year than last and overall the

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north-east has the higher standard, great across the country. Too many

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of our young people have to leave to find good jobs, so when is the

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minister going to make the northern Powerhouse a reality for the

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north-east? We are determined to make the Northern Powerhouse a

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reality. As she says, there are certain areas where use and

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implement is higher than in other areas but I would hope she will

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recognise that the use and implement as a whole in her region has in all

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other regions has come down markedly in recent years. 86% of 16 to

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24-year-olds are now in full time study or work, which is a record

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high. The employment rate for 16 to 24-year-olds who have left full-time

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education is up 0.4% in the last year. A solid route for young people

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to secure work is through apprenticeships. Can the minted --

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Minister Tommy what is being done with his counterpart of the

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department education to ensure that all of our young people have access

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to apprenticeships? We work very closely with colleagues in the

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department education to make sure that the government's commitment to

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have 3 million new apprentices in this Parliament is met. We are on

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target for that, and in particular we want to make sure apprentice

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ships are not only available to young people perhaps leaving school

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for the first time, but throughout the age range can so we can make a

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reality of the phrase lifelong learning. Bother the Secretary of

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State said the area such as mine where youth under climate has risen

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in the last month? Ashun what would the Secretary of State safest of

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witty look at working particularly with colleagues in the Northern

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Powerhouse to make sure that benefits of government investment is

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shared across the North West and North Wales, has a whole? I am very

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happy to listen to the right honourable gentleman above the last

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20 next. One of the purposes he makes of the Northern Powerhouse

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energy more widely of the government's consultation on the

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industrial strategy is to make sure that the success of the economy is

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spread to all regions of this country, and if he has specific

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points to make about his own region, I am more than happy to talk to him

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about that. Question before, Mr Speaker. With permission I will

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answer is questions four and six together. Almost 6.3 million

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eligible workers have been involved in the workplace pension because of

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automatic enrolment. This is an unseen revolution. The way people

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are now saving will lead to more freedom, more choice and more

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security for the pensioners of tomorrow. I thank my right

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honourable friend for that answer. Would he agree with me that the one

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aspect that is quite clear is that many people that would otherwise not

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save on a private pension will have to save for their future, and also

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young people who don't save will have a secure future in retirement?

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I do agree with my honourable friend, particularly his last point

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about young people, and the ISS has done some research that shows that

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the dissipation in auto enrolment among those aged 22 to 29 has

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increased from 28% in 2012 to 85% in 2016. That is a very, very

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impressive improvement. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Auto enrolment has been

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hugely successful. There are a number of people still opting out.

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One of the businesses in my Southampton itching constituency

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suggest that perhaps 50% of his staff were opting out. What steps is

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the Secretary of State taking to encourage people to save in a

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workplace pension for their retirement. I am happy to tell my

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honourable friend the example he takes is an exception, in when the

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Turner commission reported and suggested this kind of scheme in

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2005, it estimated about 25% of people would opt out. The opt out

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rate at the moment is about 10%, but there is always more to do, as his

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example suggests. That is why we are conducting a review at the moment to

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make sure that is even better in the future to work for all kinds of

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individuals, particularly those in small businesses. The House of

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Commons is not able to supply me with any evidence that tax reform

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pensions contributions encourages savings. Can the Secretary of State

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supply me with such evidence? I can supply the honourable gentleman with

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the evidence that we have transformed saving over the past few

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years, and indeed people have often said that young people in particular

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don't want to save. The facts I have just put before the house suggest

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that that is no longer the case. I think if the honourable gentleman is

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advocating taking away all tax relief for pensions, I would be

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interested in his ideas, and so I'm sure with his own front bench.

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Government ministers have been very clear on the need for transparency

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in the pensions industry, including master trusts, dealing with auto

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enrolment. In his second reading of the speech with a pension schemes,

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the Secretary of State spoke of it, in the TUC the minister said we have

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got to get transparency, it is not an option to do nothing. And Lord

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Freud said we wanted pension scheme members to have sight of all costs

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and charges. Despite those fine words and all attempts to deliver

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transparency in the Bill committee, but dismissed by the government, so

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can the Minister just tell the house what they mean by transparency in

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the pensions industry? The bill which I note the party opposite

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didn't vote against at second or third reading, so he can't have

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objected to it that strongly, actually set up a new system of

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regulation, particularly of master trust, which deals with not just

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transparency that deals with a whole range of aspects, which mean that

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this relatively new form of financial body is now much better

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regulated than it was before. And I would say I would have thought he

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would have welcomed it. Actually, he did well commit. LAUGHTER

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Question seven, sir. The green paper consultation, which concluded on

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17th Fabregas the range of questions about how we can better support

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people into employment, and has highlighted learning disabilities as

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a particular area for further work. We will bring forward shortly

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schemes to support this group in their ambitions. Thank you, Mr

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Speaker. Would my honourable friend join me in praising the work of

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Balenziaga see in Surbiton who provide employment support for

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people with learning difficulties -- Balance CIC. So that everyone knows

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what support is available out there. I would be very happy to join my

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honourable friend in praising the work of Balance CIC. This is a group

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of individuals that we want to do much more for. We will be bringing

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forward young person's work experience scheme shortly, we wish

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to open up apprenticeships but more is needed in this area, and

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organisations like Balance CIC can help us do that. Mr Speaker, the

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disabled students allowance has been a great help to students with

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learning difficulties can such as dyslexia and helping them gain the

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qualifications they need to enter the world of work. Will the Minister

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not accept that the ?200 fee is acting as a real deterrent to the

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uptake of this allowance, and that it is unfairly penalising students

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who do you need that extra help? We are looking at a range of things to

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help in particular young people learning with learning disability is

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and with autism, and young people with mental health conditions. They

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need to have more options available to them, and they need to have more

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financial support in some of those areas, so I would be very happy to

:25:28.:25:31.

look at what the honourable lady suggests, if she would like to write

:25:32.:25:33.

me with evidence that it is happening. Thank you, Mr Speaker.

:25:34.:25:38.

Governments of all persuasions have tried and failed to shift the

:25:39.:25:42.

employability rate of people with learning disabilities from 6%, an

:25:43.:25:46.

absolute waste of the huge vat of talent and enthusiasm that is out

:25:47.:25:49.

there. This is exactly the reason why we brought forward plans to open

:25:50.:25:54.

up apprenticeships to have a special disability printer should scheme.

:25:55.:25:57.

Please would the Minister update the house with where we are with

:25:58.:26:03.

creating those opportunities? I think the honourable gentleman, my

:26:04.:26:06.

honourable friend, for drawing attention to the apprentice ship

:26:07.:26:09.

scheme. We wish to open up the opportunities that such schemes

:26:10.:26:14.

bring to those with learning disabilities, and are making good

:26:15.:26:16.

progress with the Department for Education on that, but I think we

:26:17.:26:19.

need to do other things, as well. When we talk about people with

:26:20.:26:22.

learning disabilities, this is a huge range of individuals, and I

:26:23.:26:26.

think we have not done enough for those who at the highest need end of

:26:27.:26:30.

that spectrum, and I have very shortly we will be of to do more.

:26:31.:26:40.

Question number nine, Mr Speaker. I receive regular representations from

:26:41.:26:44.

disability organisations and honourable members regarding

:26:45.:26:47.

personal independence payments. As I have previously stated, we want to

:26:48.:26:51.

do more to create real-time feedback across the whole of the country, and

:26:52.:26:57.

will shortly be introducing service use panels to feed directly back

:26:58.:27:00.

from claimants on PIP and employment support allowance.

:27:01.:27:06.

Unfortunately I am still receiving complaints from constituents about

:27:07.:27:14.

procedures regarding personal independence payments. Could she

:27:15.:27:18.

tell the House what she is doing to improve the process, reduce delays

:27:19.:27:22.

and support people through what is often a dramatic assessment process?

:27:23.:27:28.

The goal is swift, accurate and admin Lite assessments. Good

:27:29.:27:32.

progress has been made in merry areas. For example, reducing the

:27:33.:27:38.

average time it takes for a claim by more than three quarters from over

:27:39.:27:43.

40 weeks down to ten weeks as of October last year. But there is more

:27:44.:27:49.

to do. One reason why we have set up these service user panels if it is

:27:50.:27:53.

incredibly important that while things may be generally going well,

:27:54.:27:58.

there are certain hotspot areas where they are not and identifying

:27:59.:28:03.

those in real time is critical. But there are many other things in the

:28:04.:28:08.

improvement plan as well. Yet again one of my constituents has been to

:28:09.:28:11.

see me about a PIP assessment that has led to her vehicle being taken

:28:12.:28:18.

away from her. She is currently appealing, but what reassurance

:28:19.:28:22.

could she give me and my constituents that this vehicle that

:28:23.:28:27.

she needs will be returned to her? I would first of all point out there

:28:28.:28:33.

are 70,000 more people in receipt of mutability and making use of that

:28:34.:28:37.

scheme than there were in 2010. But she will know there are improvements

:28:38.:28:42.

we want to make to the scheme and we have been working very closely with

:28:43.:28:48.

that independent organisation. We are now attending their board

:28:49.:28:52.

meetings and are able to work much more strategically. I have spoken at

:28:53.:28:57.

length, so I will not repeat it, but those areas where we wish to see

:28:58.:29:01.

better customer service I had those and we hope to bring forward

:29:02.:29:07.

announcement shortly. Will she make strong representations to the

:29:08.:29:10.

Ministry of Justice that it should reduce the length of time that an

:29:11.:29:14.

successful claimants are having to wait for their tribunal so they can

:29:15.:29:19.

process their claims successfully? We are concerned with all aspects of

:29:20.:29:24.

the claims process, whether it is for ESA or PIP. We want it to be

:29:25.:29:30.

swift and admin light and we have some opportunities that I have

:29:31.:29:33.

already outlined to do both those things. The government announced

:29:34.:29:41.

those with chronic progressive conditions would not be subjected to

:29:42.:29:45.

continual work capability assessments. Can the minister

:29:46.:29:50.

explain why constituents of mine with conditions like MS are

:29:51.:29:53.

continually being called for reassessment? If the honourable lady

:29:54.:29:59.

has cases she wishes me to look at, she must write to me about those

:30:00.:30:04.

cases. We are currently still outlining the criteria for that

:30:05.:30:09.

scheme to be introduced, but as she will know, in the meantime we are

:30:10.:30:13.

not wishing to call people for reassessment who would be in that

:30:14.:30:17.

category. If she has cases like that, she must let me know. Thank

:30:18.:30:27.

you, Mr Speaker. At present 65% of all claimants have their PIP appeal

:30:28.:30:33.

upheld by a tribunal. It should be a source of huge embarrassment to the

:30:34.:30:38.

government that even after the introduction of mandatory

:30:39.:30:42.

reconsideration before appeal the majority of claimants who go to

:30:43.:30:45.

tribunal win their case. How does the Minister justify forcing

:30:46.:30:50.

vulnerable claimants to navigate the complex and gruelling process that

:30:51.:30:57.

the system demands put, often with little or no support? Would she now

:30:58.:31:01.

get a grip and reform this clearly broken system. Can I start by

:31:02.:31:06.

welcoming the honourable lady to her post best to mark she is not

:31:07.:31:13.

correct. It is 6% of the caseload that is overturned, but there are

:31:14.:31:20.

many things we wish to do to ensure this is improved. We have some

:31:21.:31:25.

opportunities that come after the consultation in the green paper and

:31:26.:31:28.

the reforms we want to make to that part of the system to improve and

:31:29.:31:34.

reduce the administrative burden on those also claiming PIP. Western

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Number ten. Mr Speaker, it is not meaningful to compare against an

:31:44.:31:48.

unchanged tax credit system, but the national living wage helps with

:31:49.:31:52.

childcare and these things all mean people can earn more and a higher

:31:53.:31:55.

income tax allowance means they can keep more of it. A single parent

:31:56.:32:01.

working full-time on Universal Credit will be up to ?3000 worse off

:32:02.:32:08.

than someone in the same situation on tax credits as a result of this

:32:09.:32:14.

government's cuts. Does the Secretary of State accept his cuts

:32:15.:32:22.

are creating an unjustified disparity by people in similar

:32:23.:32:27.

circumstances? Anybody who changes from tax credits to Universal Credit

:32:28.:32:32.

can get transitional protection. Those coming into it with a new

:32:33.:32:36.

claim it is a wholly different system with a completely different

:32:37.:32:42.

set of support, including more support for example on childcare.

:32:43.:32:47.

There are various other reforms that the honourable member refers to

:32:48.:32:52.

which would also benefit. Mr Speaker, with my right honourable

:32:53.:32:58.

friend accept that Universal Credit, which now reaches almost a third of

:32:59.:33:03.

the unemployed people in my constituency, is a much simpler

:33:04.:33:06.

system and is the first major new benefit introduced in my political

:33:07.:33:10.

lifetime which has not resulted in a whole string of correspondence from

:33:11.:33:17.

people in difficulty? It is indeed a dramatic and critical reform for our

:33:18.:33:22.

welfare system. One statistic is that for every 100 people under the

:33:23.:33:29.

old system, there are 113 in Universal Credit. This week DWP

:33:30.:33:36.

informed members of Parliament that our constituents would have to give

:33:37.:33:40.

specific and explicit consent if we were to help them with the full

:33:41.:33:48.

Universal Credit claims. This will significantly inhibit our ability to

:33:49.:33:52.

assist our constituents. Can the Minister reassure the House that

:33:53.:33:57.

measures will be put in place to ensure MPs can support their

:33:58.:34:02.

constituents? We want honourable members to be able to support their

:34:03.:34:07.

constituents. But the system itself is different because the online

:34:08.:34:11.

account allows the user to access that much greater breadth of data.

:34:12.:34:17.

The claimant holds the key to that data and implied consent cannot be

:34:18.:34:20.

assumed, but the claimant can give their assent via the journal.

:34:21.:34:31.

Currently families have to wait at least six weeks to receive Universal

:34:32.:34:34.

Credit after they have made a claim and this is leading to some people

:34:35.:34:40.

being in rent arrears. Research by the Child poverty action group found

:34:41.:34:45.

30% of food bag users were waiting for the outcome of a benefit claim.

:34:46.:34:50.

What urgent action will the government take to cut the delay at

:34:51.:34:53.

the start of Universal Credit claims? Universal Credit is a

:34:54.:34:59.

monthly benefit, but we do have advances available where people

:35:00.:35:02.

cannot make it through to the first payday. Fundamental point is that

:35:03.:35:08.

Universal Credit is helping more people into work and it is helping

:35:09.:35:12.

more people progress in work and that is putting down a better

:35:13.:35:18.

foundation for their future. Many families on tax credits and

:35:19.:35:22.

Universal Credit will lose out when the child limit comes into force in

:35:23.:35:27.

April. There will be a 50% rise in child poverty by 2020 and a key

:35:28.:35:33.

reason will be the impact of tax and benefit changes on families with

:35:34.:35:38.

three or more children. Does the government think some children

:35:39.:35:43.

matter more than others? Mr Speaker, the policy the honourable lady

:35:44.:35:48.

refers to refers to new cases. In terms of relative poverty that is

:35:49.:35:53.

down by 100,000 children since 2010. Number 11. The government is

:35:54.:36:02.

committed to providing free, impartial guidance through pension

:36:03.:36:06.

wise to help people make informed and confident decisions about how

:36:07.:36:10.

they use their defined contribution pension savings in retirement. I am

:36:11.:36:15.

grateful for the minister's answer. What further steps are his

:36:16.:36:19.

departments taking working with other departments to ensure there

:36:20.:36:23.

are protections in place for those in receipt of their pensions and

:36:24.:36:27.

maybe at risk of falling foul to financial scams their retirement? It

:36:28.:36:33.

is really very important and she can be reassured that a cross government

:36:34.:36:40.

consultation on further measures to tackle pension scams closed recently

:36:41.:36:44.

on the 13th of February and this included a proposal to ban all cold

:36:45.:36:49.

calling in relation to pensions. Once we have considered the

:36:50.:36:55.

responses, we will take action and it will be as soon as possible.

:36:56.:37:03.

Number 13. Mr Speaker, we have been mindful throughout impact on staff

:37:04.:37:11.

and customers and we have consulted and the public and the full quality

:37:12.:37:15.

impact assessment will be carried out. I went to see the regional

:37:16.:37:22.

manager of my Jobcentre last week and she had absolutely no

:37:23.:37:27.

information on the number of ESA or IS claimants that would be affected

:37:28.:37:32.

by the proposed closure. The plans for outreach that would replace the

:37:33.:37:37.

Jobcentre, the amount saved for that closure, the necessary spend an

:37:38.:37:40.

increased capacity at the alternative centre, or projections

:37:41.:37:47.

for football that footfall at the centre. Will the Minister commit to

:37:48.:37:53.

publishing all that information before the decision has been made,

:37:54.:37:58.

but preferably before the end of the consultation period? ESA and IS

:37:59.:38:04.

claimants are not required regularly to attend the Jobcentre in the same

:38:05.:38:09.

way that GSA claimants are. In terms of our reach, we want to look at

:38:10.:38:15.

other opportunities working with partners. The consultation closed on

:38:16.:38:20.

the 28th of February. In terms of the overall approach in Sheffield,

:38:21.:38:25.

it is about consolidating the amount of space and using that space better

:38:26.:38:31.

to provide enhanced services for customers and it raises utilisation

:38:32.:38:38.

in Sheffield from 51% to 59%. In 2010 there were three Jobcentres in

:38:39.:38:46.

my constituency. Just under 3000 people who have to access the

:38:47.:38:51.

Jobcentre in my constituency at least every three weeks is not an

:38:52.:38:56.

insignificant number. Why has his department not carried out a full

:38:57.:39:00.

impact assessment before the closure? The proposals across the

:39:01.:39:07.

city of Liverpool raise the utilisation in the city from 66% to

:39:08.:39:12.

95%. It makes better use of buildings. Movement from one

:39:13.:39:18.

Jobcentre to another is less than three miles and 20 minutes on public

:39:19.:39:23.

transport and it is reasonable to ask people to make that move. Number

:39:24.:39:29.

14. Through the green paper improving lives, the work health and

:39:30.:39:36.

disability green paper, we asked about the barriers preventing

:39:37.:39:40.

employers from recruiting and training people with health

:39:41.:39:44.

conditions. We will shortly bring forward measures to address those

:39:45.:39:49.

barriers. I am grateful to the Minister. I recently held an

:39:50.:39:53.

engagement event in Lowestoft to consider the green paper. The

:39:54.:39:58.

conclusion reached is the disability employment gap is best tackled with

:39:59.:40:03.

bespoke local solutions work out with local employers. Will the

:40:04.:40:07.

Minister give this approach fair and full consideration as she assesses

:40:08.:40:11.

the feedback from the consultation? May I put on record my thanks to him

:40:12.:40:17.

and members from all parties in this house who did hold local

:40:18.:40:21.

consultation events. It was incredibly important and has made

:40:22.:40:26.

this a good consultation, but is vital in establishing and building

:40:27.:40:31.

local networks. These have to be local solutions, not least because

:40:32.:40:34.

health care is commissioned locally and I can give him those assurances

:40:35.:40:39.

that we will bear that in mind as we go forward. The all-party

:40:40.:40:45.

Parliamentary group on modern slavery has heard compelling

:40:46.:40:47.

evidence about how people who have been enslaved in the UK have PTSD

:40:48.:40:54.

and similar serious disabilities as a result. Would the Minister commit

:40:55.:40:58.

to having a meeting with the Minister in the Home Office to look

:40:59.:41:04.

practically at ways in which those victims of exploitation can be

:41:05.:41:13.

enabled to work in companies and to be supported into working? The

:41:14.:41:18.

honourable lady raises an important point. I can give her assurances

:41:19.:41:24.

that both my office and the office of the Minister for employment are

:41:25.:41:28.

working very closely with the Home Office on precisely the group of

:41:29.:41:33.

individuals she mentions, but also on other vulnerable people like

:41:34.:41:37.

refugees as well. I am very happy to raise any points that she wants to

:41:38.:41:43.

make. I am holding a disability confident event in my constituency

:41:44.:41:48.

on April the 28th and the Minister would be welcome to it if she is

:41:49.:41:52.

able to find time in her busy schedule. Can I ask her to look at

:41:53.:41:59.

what incentives can be given to employers to give disabled people a

:42:00.:42:02.

chance to allow themselves to prove themselves to show what they are

:42:03.:42:06.

capable of if they are given that chance in the first place? I thank

:42:07.:42:12.

my honourable friend for holding a disability confident event. We are

:42:13.:42:17.

looking at what further support and incentives we can provide employers.

:42:18.:42:20.

One thing we need to do is to raise the profile of the fact that these

:42:21.:42:27.

individuals have so much to offer any business. We will be holding

:42:28.:42:33.

some events in March in this place for all members of all parties to

:42:34.:42:39.

become disability confident employers themselves and also ask

:42:40.:42:44.

for their assistance in signing up 30 targeted organisations from their

:42:45.:42:48.

own constituencies and I hope all members will take that opportunity.

:42:49.:42:52.

This is very relevant to what we're been saying and ensure the Minister

:42:53.:42:57.

would agree that to change attitudes regarding disability in the

:42:58.:43:00.

workforce we need more businesses to become role models in this area and

:43:01.:43:05.

in Taunton sadly only very few businesses are signed up to the

:43:06.:43:08.

disability awareness register. I would like the Minister to join with

:43:09.:43:12.

the to encourage local businesses to attend a special event I'd Taunton

:43:13.:43:19.

Jobcentre to promote the disability initiative. I thank the honourable

:43:20.:43:22.

lady for what she is already doing in her constituency to promote the

:43:23.:43:29.

scheme. It is very important employer is not only realise the

:43:30.:43:32.

opportunities out there from employing these people but also the

:43:33.:43:36.

support and advice that goes alongside that. The more people that

:43:37.:43:39.

know about it the more we will achieve that goal of ensuring every

:43:40.:43:44.

citizen in this country can reach their full potential. 16, Mr

:43:45.:43:53.

Speaker. Mr Speaker, proposals are in concentration with the public,

:43:54.:43:58.

should they succeed, staff will continue to offer the same support

:43:59.:44:02.

and 70s to customers and will maintain the relationships built up

:44:03.:44:08.

over time. Now that the Glasgow consultation is closed, can you tell

:44:09.:44:12.

us the following. When will the consultation responses be published?

:44:13.:44:16.

When will the equality impact assessment be published? And when

:44:17.:44:21.

will the decision be announced, and on the announcement, we'll he assure

:44:22.:44:23.

the house that it would be slipped out of a press race or a written

:44:24.:44:26.

statement, but he will make it from the dispatch box? The consultation

:44:27.:44:33.

in relation to those job centres in Glasgow has now closed. There are a

:44:34.:44:38.

number of responses that we are currently working through. We will

:44:39.:44:43.

do that within the time frame, and I anticipate making announcements in

:44:44.:44:45.

April. I met the 83 people who work at the

:44:46.:44:55.

Navy house in my constituency, another one which is being scheduled

:44:56.:45:01.

for closure. Could the Minister explain how the closure of this

:45:02.:45:03.

child maintenance back office is going to impact, and how it can

:45:04.:45:09.

possibly be efficient to close an office in one of the most low rent

:45:10.:45:16.

towns in the entire nation? Mr Speaker, the entire estates review

:45:17.:45:20.

comes about at a time when a 20 year PFI contract is coming to an end at

:45:21.:45:26.

the end of March 20 18. And has presented the opportunity indeed the

:45:27.:45:29.

requirement to review the almost entire DWP estate. What we are

:45:30.:45:33.

trying to do is to consolidate into some less space to save some money

:45:34.:45:37.

for the tax payer but also do things more efficiently, in terms of people

:45:38.:45:42.

working particularly in back of house locations, we are trying

:45:43.:45:44.

extremely hard and we don't want people to be made redundant. We are

:45:45.:45:47.

trying to find other opportunities for them elsewhere in the public

:45:48.:45:57.

sector. The UK labour market is the strongest it has been for years.

:45:58.:46:01.

Over the past year, the number of people in employment has increased

:46:02.:46:05.

by 300 and 2000. The implement rate now stands at a new record high of

:46:06.:46:11.

74.6%. The unemployment rate remained at 4.8%, the lowest rate in

:46:12.:46:16.

over ten years. I thank my right honourable friend for that answer,

:46:17.:46:20.

he will agree long-term and deployment is particularly damaging

:46:21.:46:23.

for a young person. Can my right honourable friend the what steps his

:46:24.:46:27.

department is taking the house what steps his department is taking too

:46:28.:46:29.

insular that no young person falls through the cracks. She's right,

:46:30.:46:34.

obviously long-term deployment can significantly damage anyone

:46:35.:46:36.

particularly young people and that is why I welcome the recent

:46:37.:46:43.

employment statistics, which show that 3 million 16 to 24-year-olds

:46:44.:46:48.

are full-time students and another 3 million have left full-time

:46:49.:46:52.

education and working. Together this accounts for 18% of all young people

:46:53.:46:55.

in the UK, the joint highest on record. But there is was more to do,

:46:56.:47:00.

which is why we are introducing the youth obligation from this April,

:47:01.:47:04.

which will ensure that young people are fully supported as they progress

:47:05.:47:08.

into work and indeed well they are at work. Question 20. We are

:47:09.:47:18.

committed to ensuring claimants receive high-quality, objective and

:47:19.:47:23.

fair assessments. The department monitors assessment quality through

:47:24.:47:27.

independent audit, and assessments that are deemed unacceptable

:47:28.:47:31.

returned to the provider for the working. A range of measures

:47:32.:47:34.

including provider improvement plans address performance falling below

:47:35.:47:42.

the expected standards. My constituents Neville Cartwright is

:47:43.:47:46.

living with just one long, following a battle with lung cancer, yet lost

:47:47.:47:54.

as motility -- Mote ability to win his PIP was cut last year. Does the

:47:55.:48:00.

Minister agree an eight-month wait to find other result of an appeal is

:48:01.:48:05.

totally unacceptable? I do agree with the honourable lady, which is

:48:06.:48:10.

why we have been working with Mote ability, trying to work more

:48:11.:48:13.

strategically with them, thrashing through both the issues that I am

:48:14.:48:20.

very aware of appeals, but also on issues like individuals leaving the

:48:21.:48:26.

country. We are trying to reduce the amount of time, but also with the

:48:27.:48:32.

running of the skin which means the precise scenario that the honourable

:48:33.:48:44.

lady outlines the sort happened. Building on success of the new

:48:45.:48:46.

enterprise allowance, eligible to vote the extended to include

:48:47.:48:54.

claimants are already self-employed. There are 40 new businesses in

:48:55.:48:58.

Banbury currently supported by the new enterprise allowance, with about

:48:59.:49:02.

100 more going through the developmental stage. Can the

:49:03.:49:04.

Minister reassurance that this programme is not just to set up new

:49:05.:49:07.

businesses but will also enable them to grow going forward? Yes, those 40

:49:08.:49:14.

new businesses in Banbury I great example of what the NEA can do and

:49:15.:49:17.

in phase two we are introducing additional features to continue to

:49:18.:49:23.

promote sustained success in self deployment, including extending the

:49:24.:49:27.

men touring period and making sure there is a pre-workshop to the start

:49:28.:49:33.

-- emphasised the understanding of what it is like to be self employed.

:49:34.:49:38.

Today we published our green paper on defined benefit pension schemes.

:49:39.:49:42.

These provide an important source of income is the retirement plans of

:49:43.:49:46.

millions of people. The majority of the nearly 6000 defined benefit

:49:47.:49:50.

pension schemes are run effectively and we are fortunate to have a

:49:51.:49:53.

robust and flexible system and pension protection in the UK.

:49:54.:49:56.

However, it is clear that experiences differ from skin to

:49:57.:50:00.

skin, and some of lawyers are clearly struggling and the system

:50:01.:50:03.

may not be working optimally in all circumstances. The green paper is an

:50:04.:50:07.

opportunity to look at the schemes to ensure the system remains

:50:08.:50:10.

sustainable, while still ensuring members benefits are protected.

:50:11.:50:19.

Further to my honourable friend earlier on on universal credit

:50:20.:50:23.

environments by constituents, the Secretary of State not accept that

:50:24.:50:26.

putting this extra hurdle in his disadvantage and people in a very

:50:27.:50:31.

vulnerable situation? And also flies in the face of information

:50:32.:50:32.

Commissioner guidance on these matters? As my honourable friend the

:50:33.:50:39.

Minister for employment explained, the data is now held in a different

:50:40.:50:43.

way, it is entirely owned by the claimant who can of course and

:50:44.:50:46.

should give any member of Parliament permission to act on their behalf,

:50:47.:50:50.

and permission all of us can do our job on behalf of our constituents,

:50:51.:50:56.

as we traditionally have. Question five, Mr Speaker. Last October the

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Secretary of State announced that people with severe lifelong

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conditions would be exempt from reassessments for ESA. This was

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welcomed by leading charities sector. Can the minister told a

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house where the motor neurone disease will falls in the

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exceptions? , first of all praise the work of the all-party Parliament

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regrouped and the honourable lady's work as its vice-chair. Following

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the announcement we are working to deliver a set of criteria to switch

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off reassessments for people with the most severe disabilities and

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have sought feedback from stakeholders, including many motor

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neurone disease organisations. They will not be about a specific list of

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medical conditions, rather it will be based on a number of other

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factors, particularly how those conditions are impacting people. In

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April, the government's to child policy will mean that a woman who

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has a third child after being raped will have to prove this if they are

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to get child tax support. At the same time, the government is cutting

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widowed parent's allowance by an average of ?17,000 for each bereaved

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family. In 2015, this benefited 40,000 children who had lost at

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least one parent. Will the Secretary of State please think again about

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these really punitive measures? I don't agree with the honourable lady

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that the measures are punitive. To take just one of the two she brought

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up, the bereavement payments, as she knows this is bringing three

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payments into one. The original system was devised for a world in

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which women often would not work at all, and so needed lifelong support,

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rather than the extra support they will be offered after the tragic

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event that will have happened, and I think she will find that the new

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system is fairer and more effective at providing support when it is

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needed. Will the Minister agree it was important to introduce the cap

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on out of work but if it's to do with the excesses of a system that

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used to see a single household being given ?100,000 a year in housing

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benefit? I thank my riverfront that question, she is of course right to

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point out that the benefit cut is working. It has brought about

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behavioural change and evaluation of the current cap level has found that

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capped households are 41% more likely to go into work than similar

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and capped households. More than that, 38% of those caps if they were

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doing more to find work. A third were submitting more applications

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and a fifth underwent more interviews was the new recipients of

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support who are in the work-related activity group will cease to receive

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the work-related activity components payment as of this April. Can the

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Minister tell us exactly what additional support those claimants

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will receive, since we have only just a short six weeks until they

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are hit by this change in policy? This won't, although the policy is

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being introduced in April, it won't start to have an impact on

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individuals until the summer. But there is a personalised support

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package, 13 measures, which are outlined in the green paper. But

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also she will know that we are looking at ways in which we can also

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reduce an individual's household outgoings that aren't related to

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finding work. Does the Minister agree with me that we must do all we

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can to support people with mental health issues, disabilities and

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learning difficulties into work? But equally as important, we must ensure

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businesses are equipped to help them stay in employment? I agree, this is

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about people being able to reach their full potential, and make use

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of all the benefits that come with having a pay packet, all of those

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opportunities and choice top employers have a huge role to play

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and I have been very encouraged by the results of the consultation

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particularly from employers wanting to do more, and we must Insua they

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have the tools and expertise to do more. As part of the government's

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welcome proposals to half the disability employment gap, will the

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Minister ensure that a work support plan is in place before a disabled

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person is made a job offer, thus increasing the chances of success,

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and reduce in the risk of wrongly applied sanctions or accusations

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that the person doesn't want a job? This consultation really affords us

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an opportunity to look at a person's haul journey, and generalising, the

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earlier someone can have a conversation with somebody about

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their ambitions, about the support they will need in place, the better

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that journey will be. So I totally agree with the honourable gentleman.

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I suspect the employment minister may not be aware of the employment

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of women, young person and children's act 1920, but it is a

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consent of the heritage Railway Association and others, who have

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found that young people cannot volunteer in industrial

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undertakings. We have now written to the Health and Safety Executive but

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I wonder if the Minister would meet me to have a conversation about

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this? I would be very happy to meet the Right Honourable lady about this

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issue. There is a huge amount of work going on to ensure that young

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people and others as well can make use of all opportunities to expand

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their horizons and I would be very happy to meet the honourable lady

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about the specific points she raises. Of the 17,000 sanctions to

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benefit Clement and Bradford West in the last 6.5 years, how many could

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have been avoided if the government had the yellow card warning system

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in place? Why has this not being rolled out nationally following a

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successful trial in 2016, and when is this government going to do it?

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We are looking at the trial, the early warning system trial was

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taking place in Scotland. We are still evaluating that and we'll

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publish the results shortly. And then we will have to do the

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evaluation first before we decide what to do next. Last week I

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attended two excellent business breakfasts, one order announced by

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the Rockingham Forest hotel and the other by business group. In what

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ways does the Minister think we can use that experience to help people

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entering the world of work through mentoring? I think mentoring has an

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absolutely critical role to play and I would encourage those employees in

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his constituency to be in touch with the local schools, colleges, and to

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seek out more opportunities. Would the Minister look at the assessments

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of people with long-term progress of conditions in light of some of the

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issues raised by this and in fact with long-term progress of

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conditions would she look at the removal of the need for continued

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assessment, by the very nature of people getting worse day by day? The

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honourable lady makes a very good suggestion. We are looking at this.

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If we can share data better, not just across our own systems but also

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with local government and there is a huge amount of administrative burden

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we can cut down on. Identified the critical difference that makes a

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recipient of universal credit so much more likely to get into work

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than someone on jobseeker's allowance? Mr Speaker there are

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multiple features of universal credit that make that much more

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likely. The critical thing is to remove the barriers that create

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differences between being out of work and in work, things like having

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the rent paid directly to the individual. Also in terms of the

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support you get in the job centre from the work code and the

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visibility you have that for XP ever pound you earn, you know how much

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you will retain. Brixton job centre which serves many of my constituents

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is situated in one of the most deprived areas of London. How can

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the Minister justified deciding to close Brixton Jobcentre and dozens

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of others across the country before any assessment of the impact has

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been undertaken and without any consultation with the public? Well,

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Mr Speaker, on the section of the equality act, we did indeed carry

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out those impact assessments she mentions. She and I have had chance

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to talk about that specific job centre. We are making sure we have a

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good spread of Jobcentres across the country accessible to people who

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need them also utilising space better. Last week I visited a number

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of factories in my constituency taking on additional employment.

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With the Secretary of State agree that our long-term economic plan has

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worked, and those benches opposite that opposed it should now be

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contrite? And with the Secretary of State also agree it is rather

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surprising up until two minutes ago there has not been a single Liberal

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Democrat in the chamber. I'm not remotely surprised. He is not

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responsible for the presence of Liberal Democrat members. I am

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grateful for that last piece of advice, Mr Speaker, I would be

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horrified if I were responsible, particularly for their attendance

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record. But I am happy to agree completely with my honourable friend

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about the long-term economic plan. It is a tribute to a successful

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policy for the past six years. On behalf of my constituents may I ask

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the Secretary of State to be personally involved in her case. The

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victim of a house fire when she was 12 weeks old, she has no hands. She

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has multiple physical problems. In the migration from DLA to pip she

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could not open the envelope telling her to go to her assessment. On the

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1st of February all benefits ceased. On the 10th of February her motor

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ability car was taken away. This cannot be right, please help. If the

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honourable lady wishes to contact me directly, we will take it up. Does

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my right honourable friend agreed there is no evidence to suggest we

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are going to lose the 3 million jobs which we were warned so often would

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happen if we left the EU, and given the recent announcements of

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thousands of new jobs being located in this country from the likes of

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Google and Amazon that this country remains a very attractive place to

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do business. It's perfectly clear that this country is an extremely

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attractive place to do business. I'm delighted and a number of big

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companies particularly in the tech sector and other sectors that have

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cited to move jobs to this country in recent months. And the government

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will absolutely do all it can to make sure that this economic success

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continues. The Jobcentre in my constituency is under threat of

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closure which has spread alarm and despondency amongst some of the most

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vulnerable people I represent. The nearest job centre in Walthamstow is

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more than three miles away which breaks the Minister 's own

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guidelines. Will he undertake to have a proper impact assessment and

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publish the results? Of course I will have a look at that. The

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criteria are that if it is both more than three miles and more than 20

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minutes away by public transport that is when the consultation

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happens. Within that if either of those conditions are met, it is

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reasonable to ask people. On Friday I went to visit Shipley Jobcentre to

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hear first-hand the concerns staff have about the closure of Shipley

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Jobcentre and the concerns they have for their clients. With the Minister

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agree to meet with me so I can go through their list of concerns and

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hopefully he can find a way to address them? Of course I am happy

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to meet my honourable friend as I have met honourable and right

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honourable members from across the house to discuss. Single sentence

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questions I hope. I am astonished the Secretary of State separate

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clause was not punitive but his own government response to the

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consultation says many respondents found it unacceptable for

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governments to ask women to relive the audio of rape to make a claim

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for benefits. Will the government accept this policy is despicable?

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Identix at that and I do think the honourable lady's description of the

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exemptions for that clause just don't accord with reality. It's not

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remotely punitive, it is an entirely sensible and workable system that we

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are proposing. Mr Speaker, can the Secretary of State tell me what

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plans he has too reduced the cost of telephone calls to his department

:04:56.:04:58.

which can now cost up to 55p per minute. Obviously I am in constant

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contact with the Social Security advisory committee. People who fell

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in the Department always have the opportunity to ask for a call back

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if they do not wish to continue with the call and wished the departments

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to make the call. I understand this point of order flows directly from

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questions. Specifically to call upon the answer given a few moments ago

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about the work-related, the minister said nobody would be affected by

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this change before the summer but in fact the DWP website says and we all

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understood that this change takes effect from April, I wonder if you

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can invite the Minister to clarify or correct

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