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Hello and welcome to BBC Parliament's live coverage from

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Westminster. In an puzzlement time the Shadow Health Secretary John

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Ashworth will ask an urgent question on the loss of confidential NHS

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correspondence by NHS shared business services. The company

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failed to forward confidential documents about patient are removed

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or changed GP surgeries. Around half a million medical documents,

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including cancer test results, were put into storage rather than being

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sent to family doctors. After that, two new MPs will be introduced to

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the Commons following last week's by-elections. MPs will then spend

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the rest of the day debating public spending for future flood prevention

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and health and social care in England. In the House of Lords peers

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begin their detailed debate on the legislation triggering the UK's exit

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from the EU. You can watch that lifts using the BBC's red button

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service or via our website/ Parliament. Do remember to join me

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for a round-up of the day in both Houses of Parliament at 11 o'clock

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tonight, and before we have questions to the communities and

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Local Government Secretary Sajid Javid and his ministers, the Speaker

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will pay tribute to the Labour MP and father of the House, who passed

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away yesterday. Order, order. It is with great

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sadness that I have to report to the House the death of the Right

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Honourable Sir Gerald Kaufman. He will be sorely missed by his

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relatives, by his friends, by his constituents and by his

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parliamentary colleagues, not to mention very large numbers of people

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across this country and around the world. Colleagues before Gerald

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entered Parliament and after leaving Oxford University, Gerald worked as

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assistant General Secretary of the Fabian Society and a journalist on

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the Daily Mirror and for the new statesman. Thereafter he was

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Parliamentary press liaison officer for the Labour Party, working

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closely with Harold Wilson. He entered this house as colleagues

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will know, in June 1970 as the member of Parliament for Manchester

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Ardwick, which constituency he represented until 1983. Thereafter

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and following boundary changes, he represented Manchester Gorton from

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1983 without interruption. He was, as we know, the father of the House.

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He served in this place belligerently, with principal and

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utter dedication for well over 46 years. Under Harold Wilson and Jim

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Callaghan, Gerald served as a minister with responsibility for the

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environment and subsequently with responsibility for industry. In

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opposition he was a long serving and distinguished member of Labour's

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Shadow Cabinet, serving as Shadow Secretary of State for the

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environment, Shadow Home Secretary and, indeed, as Shadow Foreign

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Secretary. Many people will know he was a prolific writer, the author of

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several books, not least and perhaps most memorably a book entitled How

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To Be A Minister. After he ceased to serve on the front bench, Gerald

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chaired initially the select committee on National Heritage for,

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if memory serves me correctly, a full parliament, and then when the

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committee took its new form the culture media and sport select

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committee, it Gerald chaired that committee for two hold parliaments.

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Since 2010, Gerald has been the longest serving Labour member of

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Parliament and since 2015 he has, of course, been Father of the House. In

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more recent years I have been privileged to be supported by Gerald

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on the speakers committee on the Electoral Commission, of which he

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was, if I can put it this way, a highly distinguished ornament.

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Gerald was, of course, a passionate, eloquent, relentless campaigner for

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social justice at home and abroad. I will not pretend that he was always

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the easiest of colleagues. If you were lauded or praised by Gerald you

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doubtless took delight in the experience. If you were attacked or

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denounced by Sir Gerald, you could be in no doubt on the matter. But

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there was that fidelity to principle, that commitment causes,

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that insistence on doing his duty by his constituents, by his party and

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by his country. Gerald will be mourned very widely indeed, and

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expressing, I hope on behalf of the House, our condolences to his

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relatives and friends, I should perhaps just take this opportunity

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to say to the House that colleagues will have a chance to pay tribute to

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Sir Gerald later this week. Order. Questions to the Secretary of State

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for Communities and Local Government. Question number one, Mr

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Speaker. The Secretary of State for

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Communities and Local Government. If I Mayowa my like -- would like to

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join you in paying tribute to the late honourable member for

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Manchester Gorton. He showed it was possible for the children of

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immigrants to treasure their roots are still increasing their

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Britishness and the active role they can play in public life. I'm sure I

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talk for the whole house when I say he will be deeply missed my

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sympathies go to his family and friends, Mr Speaker. If I may now

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turn to question number one, Mr Speaker.

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One person sleeping on the street is one too many. All too often support

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is provided at point. This is why we are supporting 84 projects through

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?50 million homelessness prevention programme and seek to tackle

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homelessness and rough sleeping. Thank you, Mr Speaker. May I also

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associate myself with your comments regarding the late Father of the

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House. It's a sad day, a sad loss and we shall miss him dearly.

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Official figures confirm rough sleeping has more than doubled since

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2010, after falling by more than three quarters under Labour. Why

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does the Secretary of State thinks homelessness fell under Labour but

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has risen so dramatically under the Tories?

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Secretary of State. The honourable lady, she touches on

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the record of the last government, the last Labour government. It would

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be fair to point out the level of statutory homelessness acceptances

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was higher in every year of the last Labour government bar one than is

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today. It does show that homelessness, whether it's rough

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sleeping or other forms of homelessness, is a chronic long-term

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issue that has been challenging for successive governments. I think if

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we can all work together on this issue, take a more cross-party

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approach it can help. Support from members across the House for the

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homelessness prevention Bill is a great example of how we can work

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together. Mr Richard Fuller. Thank you. The

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site the great efforts of voluntary groups Bedford is one hot spot for

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people sleeping rough. What will the Minister do to make sure the

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measures coming up will have an impact they are intended for? Mr

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Speaker, I know my honourable friend cares deeply about this issue. He

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has raised it with me in the past. What I would like to reassure him is

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the Government does take the issue of rough sleeping very seriously. I

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can point to the recent announcement of the ?20 million rough sleeping

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fund and also the work we're doing on social impact bombs to find new,

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creative ways that also help. Will you take the short trip up the

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M5 where he can visit the YMCA's brilliant open-door project which

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finds homes with families, in stable homes for homeless young people in

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the Black Country. It is phenomenal, getting the majority into work and

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even into university. Will he come and look at that and consider

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whether he can fund a similar scheme nationwide, because it really does

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achieved remarkable results? Mr Speaker, I would join the

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honourable gentleman in commending the work of the YMCA in this area,

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particularly their open-door project. I would like to learn more

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about that. It is just these kinds of projects that we want to see more

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of and provide support. That's why think our ?50 million homelessness

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prevention fund, which already is supporting over 80 projects, can

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help. With the good efforts of my right

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honourable friend's department not be assisted by a cross-party effort

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which would deal with some of the underlying issues such as addiction

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and inspiring the Department of Health to aid in this?

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Mr Speaker, and please my honourable friend speaks again about a

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cross-party approach to this very, very important issue. He highlights

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the need to look at the causes of homelessness. When any member of the

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houses come across anyone homeless, they will see their needs are often

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complex. It can be addiction, for example, it can be mental health

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issues. I think we would all do well to take those more seriously.

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With the Secretary of State that one of the reasons why people end up

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homeless, sleeping on the streets is because of the actions taken by

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private landlords? Very often in houses of multiple occupation? Would

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he look at what more could be done to regulate the private rented

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sector, to prevent conditions arising that drives people onto the

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streets? I thank the right honourable lady,

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she makes a good point. I don't think that's the primary cause, nor

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do I think she is suggesting that. It is something worth looking at. I

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hope she would welcome the decision we've made to extend licensing to

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smaller HMOs, I think that can help with the situation.

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While there remains much still to do, the Scottish Government has

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pushed ahead with measures to help those who need it most, such as the

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Scottish welfare fund, which has issued grants totalling ?116 million

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since the scheme was established. Ground-breaking homelessness

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legislation and regulation over private landlords and rents. What

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similar measures has the UK Government taken?

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There are some similar measures that have been taken in England, for a

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example in terms of providing enough funding, ?550 million has been set

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aside to tackle homelessness, I mentioned the prevention programme

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and also ?100 billion, a new programme to deliver at least 2000

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low-cost accommodation places. Number two, please. With your

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permission I will answer this with question number nine. The Government

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is committed to building the homes we need. Measures in the White Paper

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will ensure homes are built more quickly when they have planning

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permission and we will diversify the housing market. What action is his

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department taking to make sure unused public sector land in London

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is brought forward more quickly for housing development? My honourable

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friend is right to raise the broken housing market in London, I know he

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has done much to help in his own area, and I can tell him the

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minister for Housing and planning, who co-chairs the London land

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commission, is working to identify new opportunities to release public

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land for housing, and in the last Autumn Statement we allocated ?3.15

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billion to affordable homes in London. We have done our bit, I

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expect to see the Mayor of London to his. Gloucester City Council have

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put together a strong bid to support the state regeneration programme,

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which will transform the old estate in my constituency. Would he agree

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to meet briefly to hear our case and could he advised when he thinks

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decisions will be made on these bids? My honourable friend has been

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a strong advocate of regeneration, he has talked about this to me a

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number of times and he should know my department has received a number

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of bids for regeneration across England. We will make funding

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announcements shortly that I would be happy to meet him and discuss

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this further. We'll do Secretary of State come to Huddersfield Giants

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see how many private sector new homes have been cold? Unfortunately

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they are nearly all for students. Isn't it about time elderly people

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up and down the country had the right kind of homes for them? Could

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we not have more councils given the liberation to build those homes? One

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thing that may help is if the Labour run Kirklees Council when it put

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together its local plan had thought about all the different people who

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live in the area. He might be happy to learn that into White Paper we

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have set out further requirements for all local authorities to make

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sure they looked at the needs of the area, including older people. Could

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I extend the condolences of the SNP to the family, friends and

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colleagues of Gerald Coffman. He has had a considerable impact, more than

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many, who will miss his dignity and his contributions. Write to buy is

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not just right to buy but to buy at a discount. And Baxendale of shelter

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has said its extension would jeopardise any profit needed for

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future house-building. Can the Secretary of State explain why he

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wants to make it harder for people to access truly affordable housing?

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The Government believes their right to buy policy, whether for council

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housing for the extension of that to housing association homes, is

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important and we will continue to like that and were paid ten and

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exercises that right, we expect to see that home replaced.

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Neighbourhood plans have incentivised councils to build more

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houses by giving them 25% of the community infrastructure Levy. With

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that subject to review, is there a plan to continue with that same

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proportion for local parishes? I agree, the importance of

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neighbourhood plans of getting more ownership at that local level is why

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the measures we have taken in the Neighbourhood Planning Bill are

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welcome to do that. When it comes to the levy, it is important to

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maintain that principle. We'll do Secretary of State consider bringing

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forward legislation to end the practice of land banking? My

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constituency are fed up of seeing properties sat on by developers

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without seeing new homes which we need. In the year to September 2016

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277,000 planning permissions were granted in England, a record high

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since 2007. We want to see those turned into homes. People cannot

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live in a planning permission and in our White Paper there are measures

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to deal with this. Fabricated dwellings are now built to high

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standards, and so will the Secretary of State visit prestige homes in

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Kettering which are an exceptional quality, to see how these sort of

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dwellings might help him address problems in this country? I agree

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with the point, we want to see more innovation and creativity in

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house-building, factory build and modular homes, they have an

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important role to play. I have seen factories in Bedford and Leeds and

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would be happy to visit one in Kettering. Can buy from the Labour

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front bench the fulsome tribute you paid to our dear friend and

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colleague, Gerald Kaufmann? Those of us who knew him best will miss him

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most. After seven years of Conservative failure on housing, we

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were told by the Secretary of State that is White Paper would be a

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radical plan yet when he launched it he said his top priority was a

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proper conversation about housing need. After new figures showed that

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new house-building last year fell, though White Paper was meant to fix

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the housing crisis, so how many more new homes will be built by the end

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of this Parliament as a result of the White Paper? The honourable

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gentleman time and again get up and talks about the failure to build

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homes when the evidence is very different but he never refers to his

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own track record when we saw housing fall to its lowest level since the

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1920s. He asks me about though White Paper and the reception of that, let

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me share with him the response, the National Housing Federation calls of

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a positive step in the right direction, the world town and

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planning Institute say they welcome the measures and maybe she can guess

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where this came from, yesterday's housing White Paper points us in a

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better direction and shows promising signs for Londoners. That came from

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the Mayor of London. Number three, Mr Speaker. All those organisations

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will be interested in the question he cannot answer, how many homes

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will be built. The White Paper was a white flag for first-time buyers.

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Home ownership rose by 1 million under Labour and has fallen since

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2010 and is in freefall for young first-time buyers, so given this,

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why is help to by helping 20,000 people who aren't even first-time

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buyers? Why is it helping over 3000 people who earn more than ?100,000 a

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year, and will he used the budget next week to target better this

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taxpayer 's' help and do more for first-time buyers? First of all, the

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honourable gentleman will know since July we have taken actions to boost

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home-building, not just as outlined in the White Paper, 3 billion

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house-builders fund, 2.3 billion infrastructure fund and 1.4 point

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for building for affordable homes. He should know, having being a

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Housing Minister, that home ownership rates under Labour fell

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and I have another quote here from him, which says, I am not sure the

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decline in home ownership is such a bad thing. Number three, Mr Speaker.

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In the last few weeks the Government has reaffirmed its commitment to the

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Midlands engine, and then sink to new enterprise zones. The first ever

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Midlands engine trade summit will take place in Birmingham on the 9th

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of March. Can he outlined to me how the Midlands engine will help

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Northampton? As the Midlands MP I am pleased to see a successful Midlands

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engine and economic profits. For Northampton small businesses will be

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eligible for the investment fund which will open soon and Northampton

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will benefit from over ?5 billion in infrastructure investment. London

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gets shed loads of network, as the West Midlands MP, what discussion

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has the Secretary of State had with the Secretary of State for Transport

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on extending the tram network in the West Midlands? The honourable

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gentleman will know about some of the work going on around Birmingham

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to extend the tram network, and about the recent allocation we

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announced our ?392 million of local growth funding. There will be more

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detail shortly but a large part of that is going to transport projects.

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Question five. Our recent White Paper underlines the commitment to

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the green belt. Land should only be removed in exceptional

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circumstances, when taken demonstrate they have fully examine

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all other options for meeting housing need. In cases where a plan

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is proposing large-scale development on the green belt such as in the

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case of big Greater Manchester framework, will my honourable friend

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assures me he will carefully assessed how realistic the

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projections and assumptions are such as population growth and household

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size? I can assure him that the approach taken will be robustly

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tested by a planning inspector and he will give evidence, and he is

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quite right that before looking at releasing green belt land, councils

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should look at Brown Belt, surplus council land and how their

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neighbours can meet housing need? Plans to build on the green belt and

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Bury are part of the Greater Manchester special strategy. Does

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the minister agree with me that councils across Greater Manchester

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should look up looking brownfield and other sites and perhaps

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increasing density to do so? I agree, though White Paper sets out

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what exceptional circumstances mean, it is a phrase in the plan work that

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has not been defined before so it is about looking at public sector land

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and what neighbouring areas can do. Question six, Mr Speaker. Small

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builders tell us the two key constraints they face are accessed

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two lines and finance. Or home-building fund includes ?1

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billion of funding to small builders and our White Paper will make sure

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councils make small sites available. The time that it takes to get a site

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through the planning process often is a challenge for small builders

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who are less able to bear the risk involved, so will he continue with

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the reforms he is making to the planning system to ensure local

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authorities can deal speedily with small sites? He is right to raise

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the challenges small builders face. They plan to boost the capacity of

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planning authorities by allowing them to increase planning fees,

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councils can take action where decisions are not taken sufficiently

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quickly and a new principal regime means small builders can see what

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the planning certainty of a site is without having to do the full

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preparation. My local authority flinch is just over the border from

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England but is currently building 500 new council homes, putting

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people into housing and creating jobs in the private sector as well.

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We absolutely want councils to get back into the business of building

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homes. There is a huge need for more housing and the more people are

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involved in building, the happier if the Government will be. Question

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number seven. After White Paper sets out methods to increase modern

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methods of construction. The key is to encourage suppliers to invest in

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new plans and we will do that to accelerated construction and the

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growing customer build markets. Wouldn't he agree custom-built homes

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that can be built more quickly and more cheaply have a real part to

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play in this, in solving the housing supply issues in this country? My

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honourable friend is absolutely right. Not only can we get homes

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built more quickly, not only is their environmental performance

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better, which means cheaper for people to live in when they move in,

:27:59.:28:02.

but in terms of the real skills challenge we face, if we're going to

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build many more homes in this country, it's a way of getting more

:28:06.:28:10.

new people involved in building homes.

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I recently had the pleasure of meeting one of the partners of the

:28:13.:28:19.

architects behind a new housing development in Dalston, Hackney,

:28:20.:28:22.

which uses more timber than any other company in the world. Is this

:28:23.:28:26.

on the Government's radar and what is the Minister doing to support

:28:27.:28:32.

architects who are exploring this sustainable material? It's

:28:33.:28:34.

absolutely on our agenda. The term covers a wide range of different

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techniques and the key policy areas are the home building fund,

:28:41.:28:44.

providing ?1 billion worth of funding to people who are

:28:45.:28:47.

innovating. Too many homes are built in the same way they were 100 years

:28:48.:28:50.

ago and we are determined to change that. I'm happy to hear of the

:28:51.:28:55.

example of the lady provides. A number of constituents have

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recently contacted me concerned that the quality of new-build homes that

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are currently being constructed. What encouragement scan the

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Department give to builders, to ensure these homes are robust for

:29:09.:29:12.

many years in the future? My honourable friend is quite right

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to say it's not good enough just to get new homes built, they need to be

:29:16.:29:20.

built well and stand the test of time. Our building inspectors check

:29:21.:29:24.

that requirements are met but we also considering a report by the

:29:25.:29:32.

committee are making sure the recommendations are met.

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At the weekend we learned ?7 million will be paid in compensation for

:29:41.:29:43.

poorly built homes. Can the Minister tell the House what he's going to do

:29:44.:29:47.

to improve the quality of new homes, including those built by new methods

:29:48.:29:54.

of of construction? Unfortunately the housing white paper was good on

:29:55.:30:00.

words but lacked any substance whatsoever on quality. The

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honourable lady says that but it had a very warm reception from right

:30:07.:30:10.

across the housing sector. I just spent the last week travelling all

:30:11.:30:14.

around the country, holding meetings with housing professionals.

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Interestingly, meetings with Labour councillors, who are keen to get

:30:18.:30:20.

behind this government's agenda to build the homes the governments of

:30:21.:30:26.

both colours over 40 is a failed to do.

:30:27.:30:28.

For reasons best known to themselves, about two years ago to

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Local Authorities, Reading Borough Council and West Berkshire Council,

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challenged the Government's policy of assisting Brownfield development

:30:37.:30:41.

via vacant building credit. Can the Minister update us as to whether the

:30:42.:30:48.

Government is still committed to do this, to release more homes on

:30:49.:30:53.

Brownfield land Chris Wratt we are certainly committed to trying to get

:30:54.:30:56.

a greater proportion of the homes we need in this country built on

:30:57.:30:59.

Brownfield land. The white paper sets out a huge

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range of different things we're going to do to achieve that but I

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will happily write to my honourable friend of the details of the point

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you raised. I welcome the Minister's pitmen to

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new construction methods. Can the Minister confirmed to the House

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government's commitment to starter homes, encouraging home ownership,

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remained undiminished? Absolutely. Starter homes are an

:31:22.:31:24.

important part of the way in which this government is going to try to

:31:25.:31:28.

help people get into homeownership. There are an number of different

:31:29.:31:34.

schemes... We not proceeding with the statutory operation because

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that's the view that's been expressed to us by large numbers of

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people, but starter homes, alongside shared ownership and help to buy

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scheme, none of these schemes, none of these schemes existed when the

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honourable member was housing minister.

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Question number eight, Mr Speaker. Our devolution deals will support

:31:57.:31:59.

economic growth across the country by devolving powers and funding from

:32:00.:32:04.

this place to be determined by local people. By May of this year 33% of

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England's population will go to the polls to elect their directly

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elected mayors. I thank the Minister for his reply.

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I'm sure the Minister knows two years ago with Yorkshire council

:32:22.:32:25.

agreed a devolution deal for Leeds city region. Why has there been no

:32:26.:32:30.

progress? And what plans does the Minister have, to give West

:32:31.:32:34.

Yorkshire the devolution deal that they want and why the delay?

:32:35.:32:39.

We have made good on the city deals we negotiated with the Leeds city

:32:40.:32:43.

region. The problem on a broader Yorkshire devolution, because this

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is a bottom-up approach, there hasn't been an agreement across

:32:47.:32:50.

Yorkshire. Some of her colleagues in recent weeks have helped the matter

:32:51.:32:54.

by proposing solutions on a boundary and other nature that are not within

:32:55.:32:59.

the legal framework. Does my honourable friend not agree

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with me, to paraphrase President Kennedy, it's not so much what the

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Government can do to assist devolution deals but what devolution

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deals can do through themselves through strong leadership following

:33:14.:33:17.

the election of effective mayors? Absolutely. And I'm thinking of an

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example of the sort of leadership we will require in this Mirallas tease.

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I think they need look no further than the West Midlands, where Andrew

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Street is a fantastic candid and I'm sure will be a strong champion and

:33:34.:33:38.

now for the West Midlands. Could I thank the Minister for his

:33:39.:33:41.

continued efforts to keep the Sheffield city evolution --

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devolution deal moving forward. I understand mayoral elections will be

:33:47.:33:50.

postponed until the winter but I understand it may be possible for

:33:51.:33:53.

the Local Authorities to access a ?30 million a year some on offer to

:33:54.:34:00.

have an interim air, is that the case and what criteria need to be a

:34:01.:34:04.

place that happen? Can I thank the honourable gentleman for his

:34:05.:34:10.

unwavering support. It is a good deal, it will deliver funding and

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powers. It is possible for us to look at interim mayors if possible.

:34:18.:34:20.

What I will say to the honourable gentleman is the Government is

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absolutely committed to that do or try to bring Matt Teale forward as

:34:24.:34:28.

quickly as possible, but with the agreement of the four Local

:34:29.:34:31.

Authorities in the Sheffield city region. -- bring that forward as

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quickly as possible. Mr Speaker, in recent weeks and

:34:36.:34:39.

months we have introduced the first Northern powerhouse strategy and

:34:40.:34:43.

more importantly put ?556 million of behind that, in the local growth

:34:44.:34:51.

funding allocations. The North receiving the largest proportion

:34:52.:34:54.

from that fund. And I thank the Minister for his recent visit and

:34:55.:34:59.

thank the Government for the ?4 million investment that will create

:35:00.:35:06.

1100 new full-time jobs. We have seen strong growth in SMEs across

:35:07.:35:10.

the North of England in recent years. What more can we do to help

:35:11.:35:16.

SMEs grow and expand? It was a delight to visit the industrial

:35:17.:35:18.

estate on a wet Lancashire Day. Are there any others, Mr Speaker Chris

:35:19.:35:24.

Wratt I thank the honourable friend for his poor without. With -- in

:35:25.:35:38.

relation to SME ands I had a meeting to provide loans to support our

:35:39.:35:42.

wonderful small and medium-sized businesses across the North. Mr

:35:43.:35:46.

Speaker, small businesses form an important part of your's economy is

:35:47.:35:51.

part of the northern powerhouse, however businesses are struggling

:35:52.:35:54.

with the new deal on business rates are overseas landlords are pushing

:35:55.:35:59.

up rents which is pushing up the value. What discussions stirs the

:36:00.:36:03.

Minister have with the Treasury so that next week's budget we will see

:36:04.:36:06.

a fair deal on business rates? I was in York on Friday talking and

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speaking with America York. As she will be aware, business rates across

:36:17.:36:20.

the North will be falling, but as the Chancellor and my honourable

:36:21.:36:23.

friend the Secretary of State has made clear, we are committed to

:36:24.:36:26.

supporting further those businesses who are hardest impacted by braces.

:36:27.:36:30.

Across the North generally we will see falls in business rates.

:36:31.:36:43.

The local enterprise partnership under the growth fund... The two and

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Local Authorities are also members of the Lincolnshire wrap. Can he say

:36:47.:36:56.

when their settlement will be due? We did recently allocate ?27 million

:36:57.:37:00.

to the Humber in the growth deal. It's important to remember that on a

:37:01.:37:04.

per head basis, more than has been received in parts of the South of

:37:05.:37:10.

England. We will announce the greater Lincolnshire allocations as

:37:11.:37:13.

part of the ?392 million package for the Midlands in the coming weeks.

:37:14.:37:23.

Mr Speaker, business rates are based on valuations carried out

:37:24.:37:26.

independently of ministers by the valuation office agency. The change

:37:27.:37:33.

in the average business rate in Dover is largely as a consequence of

:37:34.:37:35.

the significant increase in the rateable value of the English side

:37:36.:37:42.

of the Channel Tunnel. I thank my right honourable friend

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for that answer. Can he confirm leaving aside the Channel Tunnel,

:37:46.:37:49.

which is done very well in recent years and got nothing value an awful

:37:50.:37:52.

lot, that business rates across the Dover district a are down 8% and

:37:53.:37:58.

will you look at the case of small businesses?

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I can tell my honourable friend that as a result of this recent

:38:05.:38:07.

re-evaluation, the English side of the Channel Tunnel has seen its

:38:08.:38:12.

value more than double to ?35 million, which now accounts for

:38:13.:38:16.

roughly a third of the local ratings list. If this were excluded, average

:38:17.:38:20.

rateable values in his Local Authority would fall in line with

:38:21.:38:24.

the rest of Kent. With exclusive reference to Dover, the Dover Road

:38:25.:38:31.

does not go through Hackney. It is not just the Dover district having

:38:32.:38:35.

these problems, but businesses up and down the country, particular

:38:36.:38:38.

year in London and the south-east. I met with small businesses in

:38:39.:38:42.

Hackney, not that far from Dover, on Friday! The reality surely is that

:38:43.:38:49.

the system is bust, small businesses, with a small turnover

:38:50.:38:52.

are being hit with huge and unsustainable bills. What's he going

:38:53.:38:56.

to do to make life better for businesses in Dover, Hackney and

:38:57.:39:01.

around the country? Mr Speaker, I think the honourable

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lady deserves that answer to that. First of all, there is transitional

:39:08.:39:11.

relief in place worth some ?3.6 billion, which can help businesses

:39:12.:39:15.

across the board, including smaller businesses.

:39:16.:39:18.

Second, the extension of small business rate relief, which will now

:39:19.:39:22.

apply to 600,000 companies from April this year, means that those

:39:23.:39:26.

businesses will pay zero, zero in business rates and I'm sure she

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would join me in welcoming that. Number 12.

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Mr Speaker, as we set out in the recent housing white paper we will

:39:38.:39:42.

consult on options. We will do this at the earliest opportunity and it

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will be reflected in changes to the National Housing policy framework.

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Can he confirm we will not be overruled and that the white paper

:39:58.:40:03.

does mean that inspectors will now apply uniform criteria to

:40:04.:40:10.

calculating five-year land supply? What I can tell my honourable friend

:40:11.:40:14.

as it will be inappropriate to comment on any particular plan in

:40:15.:40:17.

front of the inspectors, but we do want Local Authorities to put in

:40:18.:40:21.

place up to date robust plans and incentivise Local Authorities to do

:40:22.:40:25.

so. Once adopted we want them to be respected and adhered to. My friend

:40:26.:40:29.

will know having that five-year supply in place enables Local

:40:30.:40:32.

Authorities to protect their areas against unwanted development.

:40:33.:40:37.

In the North East Lincolnshire local planning includes an estimated

:40:38.:40:43.

13,340 additional homes up to 2032 that need to be built, an average of

:40:44.:40:49.

702 homes per year. The number of homes classified as in affordable

:40:50.:40:53.

being built in England has fallen to its noise level the 24 years. Only

:40:54.:40:59.

50 of those homes were completed compared to 220 back in 2010, a fall

:41:00.:41:04.

of a third. Can the Secretary of State explain why after seven years

:41:05.:41:07.

of this government affordable house-building is at its lowest...

:41:08.:41:13.

Mr Speaker, we have put record amounts of investment into

:41:14.:41:16.

affordable homes. We have listened to housing associations to ask them

:41:17.:41:20.

what can help them deliver across the country, including an

:41:21.:41:22.

Lincolnshire, one thing they have asked for was more flexibility and

:41:23.:41:28.

we provided just that. Isn't it vital that key decisions on

:41:29.:41:34.

housing targets in the local area are made by the council selected by

:41:35.:41:38.

local people. Mr Speaker, I agree with my right honourable friend.

:41:39.:41:42.

It's an important principle when it comes to planning in this country,

:41:43.:41:45.

the key decisions around allocating land for development and making

:41:46.:41:47.

those decisions on planning permission should be led by local

:41:48.:41:49.

areas. Every area needs housing that is

:41:50.:42:01.

affordable to those on low incomes yet building of these is that a

:42:02.:42:07.

record low. When the member for one and worst was Housing Minister there

:42:08.:42:12.

were 40,000 new starts in 2009 yet last year there were less than 1000.

:42:13.:42:18.

Why is there next to nothing in that White Paper that will increase

:42:19.:42:26.

social how drink and quite will they not let ministers borrow to increase

:42:27.:42:31.

social housing? The number of units available for social rent declined

:42:32.:42:41.

by 410,000 under Labour. We have seen in this Government 1.5 billion

:42:42.:42:45.

allocated in the last Autumn Statement. 29 pubs are closing every

:42:46.:43:00.

week... Sorry. Rates are set independently by ministers and the

:43:01.:43:03.

approach for valuing pubs has been agreed by all five bodies

:43:04.:43:11.

representing the pub sector. I'll start again. 29 pubs are closing

:43:12.:43:18.

every week and the industry estimate they will have to increase prices by

:43:19.:43:25.

35p per pint to deal with the rates increase after evaluation. All small

:43:26.:43:32.

businesses, many in Sheffield and bright side, are in that firing line

:43:33.:43:38.

and given the public outcry from local businesses and even his own

:43:39.:43:43.

back benches, does the Secretary of State I agree there should be a full

:43:44.:43:50.

review of business rights? Pubs and restaurants across Yorkshire and the

:43:51.:43:55.

Humber will see a 4% cut in the rates overall and many will also

:43:56.:43:58.

benefit from the doubling of small business rate relief, but as I said

:43:59.:44:06.

earlier, the Secretary of State and the Chancellor are looking closely

:44:07.:44:10.

at what further support can be made available to those impacted by

:44:11.:44:19.

rises. Pubs appear to be the net loser from revaluation and the

:44:20.:44:22.

Government has done a lot to protect them recently. Is this another

:44:23.:44:28.

example of where the evaluations agency has to be grotty grip of

:44:29.:44:35.

because they seem to defy the Government on one hand? The guide

:44:36.:44:43.

for agreeing evaluations was agreed with all five groups representing

:44:44.:44:49.

pubs and the picture will be different across the country with

:44:50.:44:54.

many seeing a reduction in rates but we remain committed to trying to

:44:55.:44:58.

help people who have been heavily impacted. 15, sir. It is nearly a

:44:59.:45:07.

decade since the current needs assessment formula was looked that,

:45:08.:45:12.

so we are undertaking a funding review to consider how to introduce

:45:13.:45:19.

a fairer formula. Can I welcome the review announced and share the

:45:20.:45:23.

enthusiasm for it among councils in Somerset. Could he stepped out the

:45:24.:45:28.

likely structure of the review and the minimum time it may take to

:45:29.:45:34.

complete? I was in Somerset last week to help launch the excellent

:45:35.:45:39.

county elections manifesto and fairer funding was one issue. The

:45:40.:45:46.

new formula will determine the baseline funding allocations as we

:45:47.:45:51.

implement the 100% business rates retention programme and that is

:45:52.:45:59.

planned for 2019-2020. One of the local councils in my constituency is

:46:00.:46:07.

in dire straits financially. It is now planning with a revenue budget

:46:08.:46:13.

of seven or ?8 million a year to have an annual deficit of 1.5

:46:14.:46:19.

million, in local terms hugely important. I know our own roll-off

:46:20.:46:26.

ran for Nuneaton have been looking at this that take an interest in the

:46:27.:46:30.

management of this local authority to make sure council taxpayers are

:46:31.:46:40.

not being mistreated by the Council? I agree with the concerns, he has

:46:41.:46:47.

talked to me about this and to my honourable friend the local

:46:48.:46:51.

government minister and my honourable friend and myself are

:46:52.:46:56.

taking an interest in this. Question 16. We are investing nearly ?250,000

:46:57.:47:05.

to identify those at risk of rough sleeping and I would like to thank

:47:06.:47:10.

my friend for the role he played and tribute to the member for Harrow

:47:11.:47:16.

East. I think the member meant to say he would group this question

:47:17.:47:20.

with that from the member for Chelmsford. Can I pay tribute to the

:47:21.:47:28.

work of my friend for Harrow East whose homelessness reduction Bill

:47:29.:47:32.

will help tackle homelessness and having seen the cross-party working

:47:33.:47:37.

in action, does he agree with me that it is by working on a

:47:38.:47:42.

cross-party basis that we will tackle homelessness? He is quite

:47:43.:47:48.

right and the Secretary of State said that earlier. There is any not

:47:49.:47:54.

just to invest more money in this area but to change the law to ensure

:47:55.:48:00.

we have a full safety nets and to intervene earlier to prevent people

:48:01.:48:04.

becoming homeless rather than at the point of crisis. Would he agree that

:48:05.:48:12.

the work Chelmsford City Council is doing to tackle the problem of rough

:48:13.:48:16.

sleeping in Chelmsford is innovative and positive? I agree and I want to

:48:17.:48:25.

thank for his personal commitment to this issue and say the work

:48:26.:48:31.

Chelmsford is doing is supported by nearly ?1 million from that fund the

:48:32.:48:37.

Secretary of State referred to. If the Department of work and cuts

:48:38.:48:41.

housing support it adds to homelessness pressures for the

:48:42.:48:44.

Department of local government and communities. Does he think the DWP

:48:45.:48:53.

should go ahead with caps for 18 to 20-year-olds and is he making

:48:54.:48:56.

representations to colleagues in other departments to stop it? We

:48:57.:49:02.

have increased discretionary payments by 50%, what she says is

:49:03.:49:10.

nowhere near enough, 60% of local councils have not taken up their

:49:11.:49:19.

full allocation. Question 18. We are supporting local growth through the

:49:20.:49:24.

local growth fund, ?31 million of which was recently announced for the

:49:25.:49:32.

seventh. The Solent Local Enterprise Partnership has played a key role

:49:33.:49:37.

with the dons breed business Park. Will the minister continue to

:49:38.:49:43.

support these to work together to drive economic growth? Yes and I

:49:44.:49:49.

congratulate him for his work in securing funding for the haven't

:49:50.:49:55.

business support fund. Local enterprise partnerships help to

:49:56.:49:58.

drive economic growth and continued to have our support. Topical

:49:59.:50:09.

questions. Number two, Mr Speaker. In that past month the local

:50:10.:50:13.

government Finance Bill has passed its report stage and the

:50:14.:50:16.

Neighbourhood Planning Bill has almost completed its passing through

:50:17.:50:22.

the Lords. White Paper has been published and I am meeting with

:50:23.:50:26.

council leaders to see how we can work together to shape the future of

:50:27.:50:32.

local government. Councils are rightly using their powers more

:50:33.:50:35.

broadly and competitively. The minister and his department may keep

:50:36.:50:42.

looking at issues in my constituency for Eastleigh Borough Council is

:50:43.:50:48.

using commercial sensitivity to hide behind deficit by 2020, where debt

:50:49.:50:57.

of 240 million by Adam did former banks to become libraries. Can the

:50:58.:51:02.

ministers confirm these details will not be kept from those who voted

:51:03.:51:09.

them in? I'm glad she is shining a light on these issues and they are

:51:10.:51:14.

of concern. She will know transparency is the foundation of

:51:15.:51:17.

local accountability. We have made councils published data on spending

:51:18.:51:24.

and procurement online and any counsel who hides information should

:51:25.:51:27.

be wary of the power of them a lot bucks. With over a million adults in

:51:28.:51:36.

England with unmet care needs, does the Secretary of State now agreed

:51:37.:51:41.

with the chair of the Health Select Committee that the Government can do

:51:42.:51:45.

longer ignore the funding crisis in adult social care? What I agree with

:51:46.:51:51.

is that we must constantly look at what more we can do to support the

:51:52.:51:56.

vulnerable and those who rely on adult social care. Am sure he will

:51:57.:52:03.

welcome the ?3.5 billion allocated at the last spending review and my

:52:04.:52:09.

announcement of an additional almost ?9 million for the adult sector

:52:10.:52:14.

across England. No one will be surprised by the lack of urgency in

:52:15.:52:22.

that response, so let me ask this, including social care the Local

:52:23.:52:25.

Government Association estimates there will be a funding gap of

:52:26.:52:29.

almost ?6 billion by 2024 critical local services. What will the

:52:30.:52:34.

Secretary of State do about that gap? The ?3.5 billion I referred to

:52:35.:52:43.

was more than what the Local Government Association set out,

:52:44.:52:49.

despite that as demand has grown we have acted with the additional 900

:52:50.:52:53.

million and as I have made clear, this issue is not all about money

:52:54.:53:00.

but reform, especially promoting more integration between work done

:53:01.:53:03.

by local authorities and the health sector. With significant housing

:53:04.:53:11.

growth, what steps are ministers taking to ensure where developers

:53:12.:53:17.

run into financial difficulties, infrastructure is provided and

:53:18.:53:21.

developments are completed? The White Paper sets out a number of

:53:22.:53:26.

measures, first of all the infrastructure fund announced in the

:53:27.:53:32.

Autumn Statement, secondly we are giving local authorities power to

:53:33.:53:36.

intervene and make sure schemes get built. We cannot just plan for homes

:53:37.:53:40.

but need to make sure they are built. Waste collection and

:53:41.:53:46.

processing is currently regulated under the EU waste framework

:53:47.:53:52.

directive. Local government takes on a great deal of responsibility for

:53:53.:54:00.

waste management and has invested in staffs -- staff, bins, and

:54:01.:54:05.

processing centres. What certainty can he give on future waste

:54:06.:54:11.

investment plans? We take this issue very seriously. I have discussed it

:54:12.:54:18.

a number of times with my colleagues and it is something we want to see

:54:19.:54:22.

how we can take further action and it is something I would be happy to

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write to her own. Some local authorities have processes that are

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so complex that they appear to be designed to deter small companies

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from bidding. I know local authorities in Kent who require

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bidders to complete a prequalification form before every

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single tender is committed, and that's OK for a large companies who

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have contract departments but it is burdensome for SMEs, so what is he

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doing to encourage local authorities to make it easier for small

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companies to bid for work from them? I can share that this was an issue

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identified in 2010 when there was a change in government, the Cabinet

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Office have already done work to make it easier for small firms to

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win procurement competitions that there is more to do and where I can

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encourage him is that as we leave the EU many of the rules that cause

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challenges are from the EU and we will take a clear look at that. The

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Secretary of State will note the importance of EU structural funds to

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Scotland with investment vital for local communities. Does the minister

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agree that the uncertainty about the future of those funds after leaving

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the EU will impact the long-term plan is and risk damaging those

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deals? I don't agree. We have been clear in our commitment to EU

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structural funds until 2020 and I would remind him that this is

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British taxpayers' money at the end of the day. Councils in my area

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require a definition of housing supply but do not worry about the

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methodology, they just want to know what it is, and could the Secretary

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of State tell me if he thinks the Liberal Democrats support this

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Government because no Liberal Democrat has been in this chamber

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until three minutes ago. Ministers have no responsibility for the

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whereabouts of Liberal Democrat members, the member has made his

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point. Thank goodness for that! On the issue of housing supply, we are

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measuring the total size of housing stock and local authorities are

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asked to plan for the number of homes but also the right mix of

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homes. Why is the minister abolishing the requirement to

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approve the finance settlement, because they have inflicted that

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much damage to local government services and they want to not be

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accountable in Parliament? I think the honourable gentleman is

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referring to some of the measures in the Finance Bill. When we moved to

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business rates, 100% business rates retentions, all local councils in

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England will be fully funded and therefore there will be no legal

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requirement that have an annual settlement, because no money will be

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forthcoming directly from central government.

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Some London authorities have an average of 40% more spending power

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compared to somewhere like North Yorkshire, despite the fact they

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often have younger populations and wealthy populations. In his fair

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funding review, does the Minister agree, future allocation should be

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based upon cost drivers, simply need on the cost of delivering those

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services? I very much agree with my honourable

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friend. He spoke very eloquently about this very issue in the local

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government financial settlement debate just last week. What he

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highlights is the need to look again at the formulas that are used, that

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are outdated, not transparent, and to make sure that when we allocate

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funding its done on a needs basis. Thank you. The chief executive of

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centrepoint recently said of the Government's plans to axe housing

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benefit for 18-21 -year-olds, the Government's plans could cost the

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taxpayer more money than it saves on force more young people into

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homelessness. In light of cross-party support for the

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homelessness build, will the Minister agree to scrap this policy

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and focus on delivering genuinely affordable homes our young people

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need? I can certainly commit the last part

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of what the honourable lady asks for. In terms of London, the

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Government is providing ?3.51 billion to the mayor and the mayor

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has been generous enough to say that is the best settlement for

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affordable housing in London. We need to make sure private landlord

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still have the money to lend to younger people and we are looking at

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that issue. As important as the funding formula debate is, would my

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friend agree with me at how councils organise themselves in order to

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ensure the maximum value for the taxpayers back? Against that

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backdrop I hope the right honourable member will be giving my proposals

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the thumbs up for Dorset, because that's the only way to support

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services for local people. What my honourable friend highlights

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as we have rightly encouraged councils to be creative, to be

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innovative, as they deal with challenges, and some of them have

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come forward with proposals to reorganise. I won't comment on a

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particular one, it would be inappropriate at this stage, but we

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do look at those very carefully and take them very seriously.

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The leasehold advisory service should play an important role in

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providing advice to leaseholders. However the current share as

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previous extensive business with freeholders and has boasted of

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maximising ground rent opportunities for them. Can ministers not see how

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this looks question mark in order to reclaim the confidence of

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leaseholders, will they agree to look into the suitability of letting

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him continuous chap? I'm well aware of the right

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Honourable's members passion for this issue. I would say I recently

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announced funding will, purely from the Government so no one can be in

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any doubt that its job is to stand up for the interest of leaseholders.

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Local Authorities do come in for a bit of stick in this chamber from

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time to time, but the Secretary of State will be fully aware of the

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tremendous work that North Yorkshire County Council did in Tadcaster in

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the last year. I wonder who take this to thank North Yorkshire County

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Council and David bowl, who did so much great work in ensuring the

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restoration of the Bridgend are -- the bridge and our planning

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department? I was pleased to join my honourable friend a few weeks ago

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for the reopening of Tadcaster bridge, alongside his constituents.

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Great to see so many young people is operating a moment as well. I would

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happily join him in congratulating the Council on their work and the

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local enterprise partnership, but my honourable friend himself knows all

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the work he did to help bring that bridge back to life.

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What assessment has been made about cuts to the recent education grant?

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We saw this recently that Local Authorities have been funded

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adequately to deal with the challenges they face. If honourable

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members opposite are so concerned about local government finance, it

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was interesting in the debate last week that only four backbench Labour

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members bothered to turn up and speak. The honourable gentleman can

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have a small second bite of the cherry. With the Secretary of State

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agree district councils continue to be a most effective tier of local

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government and have a strong future? Mr Speaker, I can absolutely agree

:02:35.:02:38.

with my honourable friend, district councils are hugely important in

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terms of local democracy. They are, alongside other councillors, are the

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bedrock of our local government and they have the full support of this

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government. Last week I met with lakeside energy from waste. A

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company that is enabling Local Authorities in my area to reduce

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their waste into landfill. As the Secretary of State knows, this plant

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is due to be knocked down as a result of the creation of the third

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runway at Heathrow and yet they are very anxious that there is no

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reference at all to the future of the plant in the national policy

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statement. Will he or one of his colleagues meet with me and lakeside

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energy from waste in order to discuss how we can make sure that

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this important plant is re-provided? This may well be an issue for the

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Department for Transport but I would be the more than happy to take a

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look. Can the Minister say what plans he

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has to reintroduce a new homes ombudsman last month the Government

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is looking at the report from the all-party Parliamentary group on

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excellency in the building department. We are determined to

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build the homes this country needs but they must be built to a

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sufficient quality as well. I will keep it brief. Secretary of State,

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I've listed three positive responses to a Belfast city deal. Instead of a

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fourth response, could we have a meeting? I will be more than happy

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to meet with the honourable gentleman. I will make sure a

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meeting is arranged. I'm very keen to see what ever my department can

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do to work across and help all regions of the United Kingdom

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including Northern Ireland. Thank you. Order. Wilbur member

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wishing to take his seat please come to the table. -- would the member

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wishing to take his seat. I, Gareth Craig is now do solemnly

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sincerely and truly declare and affirm I will be faithful and paid

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for allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors,

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according to law. -- Gareth Snell.

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