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Hello and welcome to Inside Out. Tonight we continue to examine the

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mystery of the body on Saddleworth Moor. Did you take the poison? He go

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undercover at the biggest supermarket, Tesco.

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And we escape the light pollution in the city centres in search of the

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best places for stargazing. The legends and the stories and fears to

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be all make an important asset that we must protect. -- and the stars

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antihistamine. It's a case that attracted global

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attention. A man was found dead on a north-west hillside. Nobody knew who

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he was, we came from or why he died. -- where he came from.

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It started with a mystery journey, an unidentified body.

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They call it the body on the moor mystery ? and it remains a case

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This is the place where a journey ? and a life ended ?

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A cyclist discovers a man s body on a steep track leading

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from Dovestone Reservoir to Chew reservoir in the Peak District.

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His legs were straight downhill, perfectly straight, his arms

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He looked like he was having a rest.

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There has to be a reason why somebody of that age would travel

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such a distance to be at that location at a time of year

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The man has no wallet, no ID, no clues as to who he is.

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The quest to identify him will spark an international investigation

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investigation and a trawl through the locations

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There was a few children who survived from the plane crash

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Detectives would turn to advanced science for help.

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And eventually police would make a breakthrough.

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We were like oh, my God, I think we ve actually done it.

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At the Clarence Hotel in Greenfield, landlord Melvin Robinson

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is about to briefly meet the visitor who will spark the body

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Well, he just approached the bar and just asked for directions

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I showed him and told him which way to go but I did say to him

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that he wouldn't get there and back in what was left of the daylight.

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He didn't appear in any kind of harassment or whatever you call it.

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The only thing that stuck in my mind was he wasn't dressed for going up

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Have you thought if you should have stopped him?

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Should I have said, don't go up there because you

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You know, there are lots of things you think you could say and do.

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But it s so easy with hindsight, isn t it?

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The man s body was found the following morning.

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Mystery deepened when tests showed the provisional cause of his death

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With no identity ? he was named Neil Dovestone after

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It's no easy walk to reach this spot high above Dovestone reservoir

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and for a man in his late 60s it would have taken

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But one thing we know is he was extremely

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The scale of his journey over thousands of miles

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At first, however, detectives were only able to trace his journey

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This has been one of the most unusual cases.

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I know that he s travelled from Ealing in West London.

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He's travelled on a train into Manchester.

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He did look on CCTV to be not used to Manchester

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Piccadilly Train Station, he looks confused - so does

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A number of theories about his identity were considered

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and rejected ? including that he was a survivor of this 1949

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plane crash ? and was making a pilgrimage to the site.

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The investigation went international when a metal plate in his leg showed

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But efforts to trace the hospital or surgeon proved fruitless.

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As time ticked by police sought the help of advanced science.

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They sent tissue samples from Neil Dovestone to this

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In a mass spectrometer lab at Amsterdam's Free University

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they examine isotopes found in bodies to establish where people

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What we have here is hair, teeth and bones.

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These are all tissues and different parts of the body that we can

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Hair tells you about where you have been most recently.

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Think about how fast your hair grows, how often you need to go

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to the hairdresser and how much they cut off.

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Most people's hair grows about a centimetre a month so that

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means every centimetre is telling me about where you have

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So if I have a sample of hair, mine for example, about, 10-15cm,

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in principle the ends of the hair are going to be telling

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you about where I was 12 months ago, whereas the hair right up

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at the scalp will tell you where I was last month.

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It's painstaking, time-consuming work.

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But knowing where someone has lived or travelled in the weeks and months

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before they've died has proved vital in previous

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But DNA itself you need to make a match and if you don't know

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where the person is from you don't know where the family connections

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are ? you can't actually make the comparison.

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We give the police the information to say, for example,

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look in north-west England, is that the area

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And the police know, that's where they focus

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Back in Saddleworth ? detectives continue to follow other leads

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The detective who's been leading this inquiry

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says it's unlike anything he's known in 20 years of police work.

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It has been an exceptional and unusual case.

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And yet finding an unidentified body is not as rare as you might think.

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There are currently hundreds on the UK Missing Persons Bureau database.

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Every month the bureau records around 15 unidentified body cases.

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There are over 500 on file ? and the unknown

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On a building site in central Manchester a woman's

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It's thought she was dumped here in the '70s.

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It's known as the Angel Meadows case.

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I think she was strangled and beaten about the head and then

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unceremoniously wrapped in a carpet and dumped on a derelict

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Martin Bottomley leads Greater Manchester Police's

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It's a small team of experienced detectives searching for answers -

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and in this particular case, a killer.

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She deserves a proper burial, that she's now had, and she also

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deserves justice so that we can bring her killer to justice.

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Despite facial reconstruction, DNA and isotope testing,

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But, as with all unidentified body cases, efforts never cease.

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This lady might have put out of somebody's mind temporarily

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There will be a family member out there somewhere who knows

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who she is and who can unlock that key and identify her and perhaps

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We are determined to get a just outcome for the victim and for any

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family member out there and we will never give up hope.

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Back on the body on the moor case - a year inand finally

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We were all crowded round and we were like,

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oh, my God, I think we've actually done it.

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We were just so pleased after so much work had gone into it.

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From the plate in his leg they know he has a link to Pakistan,

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and after trawling through flight records someone matching his

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profile is found to have travelled from Lahore to London

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three days before the body was found.

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They finally have a name - the mystery body

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is 67-year-old David Lytton, a Londoner who'd been living

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The thing that's always in your mind in this investigation is that

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when we get a final outcome it's going to be upsetting for somebody.

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But I'm sure if you had a loved one, a family member,

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you would want to know what happened eventually.

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You'd like to know, well, I haven't spoken to him for many years

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but I didn't know that he was dead, he was deceased.

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Police say he was a loner, no wife or children.

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He used to be a tube driver before retiring to Pakistan.

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It's reported he changed his name to Lytton -

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from Lautenberg - due to a family feud and that he's

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survived by his mother and a brother.

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A coroner will have to decide if this was a case of suicide.

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So we now know the identity of the so-called body on the moor.

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Not least of which why did David Lytton, a man with no obvious

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links to Saddleworth Moor, decide to travel thousands of miles

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Now, how often do you check your receipt when you shop at Teco --

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Tesco. What happens if the price is not the same as on the shelf? We

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have investigated the differences in price between the shelf and the

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receipt. That's why the shelves at Britain's

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biggest supermarket are full of special offers -

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money off this, buy two and we all take it for granted

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that the price we see on the shelf is the price we'll pay

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at the till - right? But what if things don't quite add

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up when you get home I've just bought a few bits at Tesco

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and I'm sure these items were on special offer -

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that's why I bought two of each - but according to my receipt

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I've paid full price. I've paid 60% more than

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the deal on the shelf. At another Tesco store I spot

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two ?2.00 on ice cream. But at the till I'm charged the full

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price again, so what's going on? Martin works for trading

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standards and says the rules They must put a price on goods

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so you know what you're going to pay and that price must be accurate

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so you don't get charged more than you thought

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you were going to pay. Sounds simple enough,

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and with 3,500 stores nationwide, That's what I want to find out

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so armed with my phone and some secret cameras I want to see how

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many offers on the shelves don't go through at the till - and at Heswall

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on the Wirral it's not I've just bought some things that

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were on special offer So, the goose fat was two

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for ?3 and the casserole It might be that they were on offer

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and now they're out of date. It sounds like this isn't the first

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time she'd dealt with this problem. No, it's OK, that one's actually out

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of date but I'll honour it. And as we head down a different

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aisle, so is another. Multi-buy deals are being left

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on the shelf after the tills have I guess it must happen all the time

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in a big supermarket like this? So according to this worker it

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happens quite a lot and in nearby Birkenhead that's exactly

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what I'm finding. The offers haven't come off

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on some of these items. So the coloured icing,

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the baked beans as well actually...and the sauce mix,

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to be honest...and, sorry, I thought it said ?3

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on the shelf, not ?4. And as I show her colleague

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the labels it soon becomes ?5.96 you're getting

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back, sorry about that. I've started making a list of how

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many offers are out of date in how many places and I also want to know

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if what's happening here in the north west is also

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happening across the country. Because if it is, it's not just

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a problem for Tesco, it's a problem At this Tesco in Liverpool sauce

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marked a pound on the shelf It says on the shelf ?1

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and it's coming up ?1.79. At another store I visit,

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I get more confused. In this store some offers

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are completely different In fact, there's so much difference

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between the shelf price and the receipt price I'm not even

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going to bother to go back and try If there are just too many offers

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changing too frequently so that store staff can't really be expected

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to understand them and comply with all the changes,

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then that is something that Tesco And there's plenty to think

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about at this store in Leeds. Hi, I've just bought this

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bag full of shopping. All those things are on offer

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but none of it's come off. I knew I shouldn't have

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been standing here! The person who does this job did

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leave so we've been waiting Doing now what somebody should have

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done hours, days, weeks ago. So it's a serious message but is

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everyone taking it seriously? It has today we've been

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in a right muddle today. Oh, there's been lots

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today have there? And as I head around the country

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the same thing keeps happening, These, mate, look they've

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all expired as well. I have to tell the compliance

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manager that his men So is there a separate

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department then? Yeah, so you have PI for labels

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and then you have another team who takes things off before

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the date and then you have stock control, who's supposed to double

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check, but they don't seem to be It doesn't seem a terribly difficult

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or perhaps that long a job just to walk around the store,

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assuming everyone knows what day it is, you know,

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to go round and tear off anything The only thing that

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went through correctly And at some stores,

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old and new promotions That one is correct

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and that is correct The longer the offer has been wrong,

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the bigger the failure of diligence and the more worried I am,

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frankly. In that case, he's not going

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to like what's coming up next... At this store I tell the cashier

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the offer isn't working. She refunds the difference

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but leaves the label on the shelf. He tells me it's run out but doesn't

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remove the label either. So when I go back a week later it's

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still on the shelf and when I return The fourth worker

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finally removes it. It's pretty basic that if one

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customer has shown something wrong, then it's put right to stop other

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customers being misled. But in 33 of the 50 stores I went

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to, the till price was more If customer A has come back

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and complained and been refunded, that doesn't mean there weren't 20

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other customers who didn't spot it There were obviously major problems

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with their control of the special offers and it's the special offers

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that bring people in, make people reach for more

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and perhaps spend a little more than they meant to when they came

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into the store, so that is The company wouldn't provide

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anyone for interview but after reviewing our evidence

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told this programme... As a result of our investigation,

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Britain's biggest supermarket says it's now double-checking

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the accuracy of every price in every store - that's more than 3500

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stores across Britain. Since the beginning of time,

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mankind has looked up towards the stars and wondered

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about the great mysteries It is easy to do if you're in place

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where light pollution isn't Jacey Normand went out

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to discover her inner stargazer. Looking down from high

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above our big cities, this can illicit a warm glow,

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the buildings and streets shimmer, I love coming into Manchester city

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centre, especially at night, because there are so many fantastic

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things to see but sometimes it's city centres themselves that

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are obscuring the best Our built-up areas are now open

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for business 24 hours day and that means keeping the streets

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and offices illuminated. For stargazers, this

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causes a major problem, as places like Manchester generate

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a staggering amount of light. But 100 years ago you could walk

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outside at night and see the Milky Way galaxy arch

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across the night sky. If you were to try stargazing

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near a city now, you would find On top of one of Manchester's

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buildings is a piece The Godlee observatory was completed

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in 1902 and is now home to the Manchester Astronomical

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Society. Lovely to meet you, and thanks very

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much for letting me come and look Why do you think it's important

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to be able to stargaze? One of the main things

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with astronomy, I call it the gee whizz science,

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it's got the hook for young kids, they like to see about space

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and space ships and the moon and planets, and an introduction

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to the night sky is something Probably because of light

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pollution in the cities. It dims down the fainter stars

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and we use the fainter stars A lot of them don't know

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what a constellation is because they never become

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familiar with them in Tonight, the Godlee

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telescope is lined up wasn't prepared for how

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spectacular it looked. Light pollution doesn't

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affect the moon. Even from the middle of Manchester

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you can get some good observing The dark sky is our inheritance,

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it's part of our nature to want to look up and looking up

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is very very important. It is amazing, isn't it,

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when you see it like that. Is it really the best place

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in Manchester to look at the stars? It depends on what you mean

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by stargazing, if it's the moon But faint things, faint stars,

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deep sky objects meteors, galaxies, Get further away from the cities,

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get to the dark skies of the Peak District or the Lake District,

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or the Isle of Man, for instance, which is a great place

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for dark sky observing. You can see hundreds of stars -

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you can really examine the universe. If you've only ever looked

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at the sky within a city or a town, it's unlikely you've ever

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seen a truly dark sky. It's got the highest concentration

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of dark sky sites in the whole Amateur astronomers flock to these

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sites and for some it's Howard Parkin gives lectures

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on astronomy and he's invited us to one of the best spots

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on the island. I talked to Howard on what is,

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luckily, one of the best nights I don't think I've actually

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seen so many stars. Niarbyl is one of the 26

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Dark Sky Discovery Sites. It's one of the original seven,

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we've now got a total of 26 and these are sites that

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have been acknowledged Great for stargazers

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but not for our camera. Our normal video cameras

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aren't sensitive enough We've taken these long-exposure

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pictures from exactly Just tell me a little

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about what's up there The best thing we can see

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in the winter months, there's a feature just to our side

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here called the Winter Hexagon. It gives us about nine

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or ten first magnitude, they're very bright stars,

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which are only be seen in the winter months from the Isle of Man

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and northern Europe. You don't see that from the towns

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or cities or anything like that. That is one of the criteria

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of being a dark skies site. Why is it important

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to have dark skies? The skies are part of our heritage

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just as the landscape and the legends of the stars

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and the history and the spectacular things that we get to see over

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the years, they all make an important asset that we need

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to protect so that is why we're so keen and so passionate

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about avoiding light pollution. Well, if you're interested

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in the night sky and you don't have an expensive telescope,

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one thing you might be keen to do Someone who can tell

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us a bit more is Paul, who's been doing all our time-lapse

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photography for the Well, it's quite straightforward

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shooting the stars. You need to start off with a few

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things, one is a good camera capable of going into manual mode,

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another one is a tripod or a sturdy base for your camera, as you need

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to be able to use the camera for a long period of time,

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so it needs to be stable. So talk me through how you adjust

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the settings on your camera? The first thing to do is to make

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a sure you get your camera into manual mode, which is normally

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a dial on the top of the camera. Once you're in there, you can

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actually start using the settings. One thing to do would be

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to set the exposure, And I'm guessing you need

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lots of patience as well, it's not something you can just take

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a quick snapshot of the sky? No, you do need to be outside

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for quite a while and be prepared to put up with some

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cold weather as well. And all of Paul's time and effort

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to get the perfect shot really paid off with a spectacular display

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of the Manx sky. Well, last night

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we were really lucky. It was a very clear night so we got

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to see so many things in the sky, including the Milky Way,

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which has really made Tonight we're not so fortunate, it's

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a very cloudy evening, which has really restricted our visibility

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but I guess that's the challenge But the point is there's

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always something to see up there if you just take

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the time to look up. get stargazing. We will be back in a

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fortnight. Goodbye. Next time we go in search of an ancient Bronze Age

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site in the north-west. I'm very excited about this. Very exciting. I

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will be surprised if we do not find human remains.

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