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More on all our top stories at 8, More on all our top stories at 8, | :00:00. | :00:06. | |
but now it's time for Meet the Author with Nick Higham. More than | :00:06. | :00:10. | |
60,000 Mexicans have been murdered in the last six years by the | :00:10. | :00:13. | |
country's drug gangs or cartels which smuggle cocaine, heroin and | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
marijuana into the United States. Some of those murdered, in what's | :00:17. | :00:24. | |
have been journalists who dared to have been journalists who dared to | :00:24. | :00:30. | |
report what was going on. An report what was going on. An | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
investigative journalist has written Narco Land which she says exposes | :00:33. | :00:36. | |
the corrupt officials going to the top of the | :00:36. | :00:40. | |
Mexican establishment which not Mexican establishment which not only | :00:41. | :00:44. | |
allows the barons to flourish but in some cases actively promotes their | :00:44. | :00:50. | |
shocking. Anabel Hernandez, we hear shocking. Anabel Hernandez, we | :00:50. | :01:08. | |
a lot about the terrible violence in Mexico and it's remarkable that | :01:09. | :01:09. | |
a lot about the terrible violence in authorities and the Government can't | :01:09. | :01:14. | |
the reason for that is not that they the reason for that is not that | :01:14. | :01:17. | |
can't, but that they don't want to. can't, but that they don't want to. | :01:17. | :01:19. | |
Why not? Why not? | :01:19. | :01:32. | |
Well, what I found in five years of investigation is that since many | :01:32. | :01:38. | |
time ago, the government get involve with the cartels and the corruption | :01:38. | :01:49. | |
just grows and grows. Now the drug cartels control many, many parts of | :01:49. | :01:53. | |
the Mexican government. Many cartels control many, many parts of | :01:53. | :01:59. | |
the Mexican government. Many officials will seek bribes for | :01:59. | :02:05. | |
protection. At one point in the book, you have a list of people you | :02:05. | :02:14. | |
say were on the payroll of just drugs cartel and there are four | :02:14. | :02:17. | |
generals, a Secretary of Defence in the government and a former private | :02:17. | :02:21. | |
secretary to a president. How has that situation been allowed to | :02:21. | :02:28. | |
happen? How has it come about? It started in the deck awed of the 60s | :02:28. | :02:34. | |
and 70s when the Government tried to control the little drug cartels —— | :02:34. | :02:46. | |
decade. They were really small organisations and they paid to the | :02:46. | :02:49. | |
government something like a tax government something like a tax and | :02:49. | :02:54. | |
the government let them work. But in the decade of the 80s and 90s, the | :02:54. | :03:08. | |
drug cartels got involved with the cartels of Colombia and Mexico | :03:08. | :03:15. | |
powerful because the money made them the cocaine | :03:15. | :03:25. | |
powerful because the money made them powerful so they started to buy | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
powerful because the money made them parts of the government | :03:29. | :03:31. | |
powerful because the money made them many of | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
officials that work in the Mexican officials that work in the Mexican | :03:35. | :03:41. | |
government are in the payroll of the drug cartels. Many | :03:41. | :03:46. | |
too. There's a terrible story in the book of one group of policemen going | :03:46. | :03:50. | |
to arrest a drug trafficker, I think a Colombian drug trafficker and | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
there's a shot out and his guards are also Mexican policemen. It seems | :03:54. | :04:00. | |
astonishing? Yes. That is very common in Mexico. When that happens, | :04:00. | :04:11. | |
when the government tries to catch people, they fight many of the | :04:11. | :04:19. | |
persons that are protected. Many are officials. Police, officials and | :04:19. | :04:24. | |
local police. It's very common. A central figure in your book is the | :04:24. | :04:32. | |
biggest Mexican drug baron, a man called Mr Guzman and he runs the | :04:32. | :04:42. | |
arrested in the 8090s and was arrested in the 8090s and was | :04:42. | :04:48. | |
imprisoned in a maximum security prison —— 80s. He escaped in the | :04:48. | :04:54. | |
1990s and the story is that he was smuggled out of the prison in Sa | :04:54. | :04:59. | |
laundry cart. You say that's not true. — in a laundry cart. You say | :04:59. | :05:03. | |
he left disguised as a police true. — in a laundry cart. You say | :05:03. | :05:06. | |
he left disguised as a police policeman, disguised as a policeman. | :05:06. | :05:11. | |
I started the investigation, one day I started the investigation, one day | :05:11. | :05:24. | |
a lawyer call me and tell me that the jail | :05:24. | :05:29. | |
him in jail and he gave me the files him in jail and | :05:29. | :05:38. | |
documents. I looked at them and I documents. I looked at them and | :05:38. | :05:45. | |
and didn't escape in the laundry car and didn't escape in the laundry car | :05:45. | :05:57. | |
because when the car left, he was still in jail. What he really did | :05:57. | :06:03. | |
is, he got inside the office and wait for for the officials of the | :06:03. | :06:09. | |
government in the early morning on government in the early morning on | :06:09. | :06:18. | |
January 20. They opened the door and let him get out of the prison. | :06:18. | :06:24. | |
That was because they were on his payroll? Yes.Mexico is one of the | :06:24. | :06:30. | |
dangerous countries in the world for a journalist. Last October, someone | :06:30. | :06:34. | |
reckoned 56 journalists had been killed in the previous five or six | :06:34. | :06:41. | |
years, largely by the drug cartels because they found stories about | :06:41. | :06:43. | |
drugs. You have written many drugs. You have written many | :06:43. | :06:46. | |
You've been threatened, haven't you? You've been threatened, haven't | :06:46. | :06:48. | |
Why do you continue? Why do you continue? | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
Why don't you leave Mexico, for instance, because surely that would | :06:52. | :06:53. | |
be safer for you? be safer for you? | :06:53. | :07:11. | |
I have received many threats but I really don't want to get out of | :07:11. | :07:16. | |
Mexico because I really believe that the journalists, we have a lot of | :07:16. | :07:18. | |
work to do there in the country. I work to do there in the country. I | :07:18. | :07:28. | |
mean, the crisis is because many of the people in Mexico doesn't really | :07:28. | :07:30. | |
know what is happening, doesn't know what is happening, doesn't know | :07:30. | :07:34. | |
what is happening. If the what is happening. If the | :07:34. | :07:39. | |
journalists keep quiet, if I just take my things and go to other | :07:39. | :07:45. | |
countries, how will the people know the truth? Of course, | :07:45. | :07:47. | |
are many journalists that keep best one, I'm not the only one, | :07:47. | :07:53. | |
You are a brave woman. You are a brave woman. | :07:54. | :07:55. | |
Thank you. You are a brave woman. | :07:55. | :07:57. | |
Thank you very | :07:57. | :08:00. |