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Did Jeremy Hunt fly too close to the Sun? Labour calls for the | :00:11. | :00:14. | |
Culture Secretary to step down, saying he gave News Corp executives | :00:14. | :00:19. | |
highly sensitive information on the takeover of BSkyB. The Secretary of | :00:19. | :00:25. | |
State refuses to go and insists he's done nothing wrong. Now isn't | :00:25. | :00:30. | |
that time for knee-jerk reactions. We had evidence presented today | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
that alleged meetings and conversations that simply did not | :00:33. | :00:39. | |
happen. Did James Murdoch intend to create havoc at the heart of | :00:39. | :00:42. | |
government? And can Jeremy Hunt stay in his job? Allegra and Paul | :00:42. | :00:46. | |
have some answers. Jeremy Hunt's survival depends on a strategy of | :00:46. | :00:50. | |
flat denial of what these emails say. He's not someone the Cameron | :00:50. | :00:54. | |
project intends to lose. But he knows he must put his side of the | :00:54. | :01:00. | |
story sooner rather than later. Labour's deputy leader goes head- | :01:00. | :01:02. | |
to-head with a defender of the Culture Secretary. And we'll be | :01:02. | :01:05. | |
asking the phone-hacked George Galloway, Neville Thurlbeck - he of | :01:05. | :01:08. | |
the For Neville emails - and Labour peer Lord Puttnam what to make of | :01:08. | :01:11. | |
the relationship between press and politicians. Also tonight: The | :01:11. | :01:14. | |
teenage victims of domestic violence. How can one in four be | :01:14. | :01:23. | |
abused by their partners? He threw a microwave at my head. I was left | :01:23. | :01:28. | |
in a wheelchair. I walk up and I was at the other end of her room | :01:28. | :01:38. | |
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and Heidi -- and he was stamping on me. Good evening. Jeremy Hunt's own | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
website proclaimed him a cheerleader for Murdoch. He may be | :01:45. | :01:50. | |
feeling distinctly less of one this evening. Today, the Leveson Enquiry | :01:50. | :01:55. | |
took a turn no one had expected. James Murdoch appeared to drop the | :01:55. | :01:58. | |
Government into a whole new level of trouble with allegations of a | :01:58. | :02:01. | |
chain of emails and text messages that link the Culture Secretary | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
with News Corporation over the issue of the takeover of BskyB. -- | :02:04. | :02:06. | |
BSkyB. Jeremy Hunt insists he's done nothing wrong and wants to | :02:07. | :02:09. | |
bring forward his own appearance at Leveson to clear his name. This | :02:09. | :02:12. | |
evening, we'll be asking if the controversy leads to the very top | :02:13. | :02:15. | |
of government. First, here's David Grossman with a report containing | :02:15. | :02:21. | |
some very strong language. James Murdoch giving evidence, this time | :02:21. | :02:26. | |
to the levees inquiry and this time... Eyes were to God that the | :02:26. | :02:31. | |
evidence shall be the truth. Although he was asked about phone- | :02:31. | :02:36. | |
hacking, the sensational, jaw- dropping part of the testimony had | :02:36. | :02:41. | |
to do with the bid to take over BSkyB. What we got was this | :02:41. | :02:47. | |
extraordinary cache of e-mails, over 160 pages. Detailing an | :02:47. | :02:52. | |
amazing level of contact between the government and the heart of the | :02:52. | :02:58. | |
Murdoch empire and the specifics of the BSkyB bid. They were mostly | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
written by Frederic de Shell, he was at the time the Director of | :03:01. | :03:11. | |
Public Affairs for News Corporation in Europe. 24th January, | :03:11. | :03:14. | |
confidential, statement, manage to get some information on the plans | :03:14. | :03:22. | |
for tomorrow. Although absolutely illegal. What do you make of that? | :03:22. | :03:31. | |
I thought it was a joke, that little!, it is winking, it's a joke. | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
Initially, the bid was being overseen by the Business Secretary | :03:35. | :03:40. | |
and he appeared to be enthusiastic. But all the time there was contact | :03:40. | :03:45. | |
with Jeremy Hunt and his team at Culture, Media and Sport. When on | :03:45. | :03:52. | |
15th September, the BBC's Robert Peston said that Vince Cable was | :03:52. | :03:57. | |
likely to contravene in the bed, Fred Michelle sends an e-mail | :03:58. | :04:03. | |
saying... Jeremy Hunt isn't aware and thinks it isn't credible. He is | :04:03. | :04:07. | |
checking out. Much was made at the inquiry of an article that Mr Hunt | :04:07. | :04:13. | |
has on his website describing him as, like all good Conservatives, | :04:13. | :04:16. | |
actually do for her Rupert Murdoch's contribution to the | :04:16. | :04:22. | |
health of British television. way you did communicate was three | :04:22. | :04:27. | |
you're chillier, Mr Hunt, to find out what was happening? -- through | :04:27. | :04:33. | |
you're a cheerleader. Mr Michel is a diligent executive and he | :04:33. | :04:36. | |
communicated with many people across the spectrum, as is | :04:36. | :04:40. | |
evidenced in this. By this stage there was concern that Vince Cable | :04:40. | :04:44. | |
was becoming implacably opposed to the bed so they tried other parts | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
of the government to get intelligence. One conversation with | :04:48. | :04:53. | |
Rupert Harrison, who was and is an adviser to George Osborne, the | :04:53. | :04:58. | |
Chancellor. Meeting of the report Harrison, who works with George, | :04:58. | :05:02. | |
confirmed tensions in the Coalition around Vince Cable and his current | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
policy positions. He made a political decision, probably | :05:05. | :05:10. | |
without even reading the legal advice. At the same time, Jeremy | :05:10. | :05:13. | |
Hunt, the Culture Secretary, had been told by his civil servants | :05:14. | :05:20. | |
that he should no longer have any contact with News Corporation. | :05:21. | :05:25. | |
Although an e-mail from Mr Michel to the Mr Murdoch suggested that a | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
mobile phone conversation might be a lull. Your reply, for one reply | :05:29. | :05:39. | |
which might be relevant... 12:02pm. The early afternoon. You must be | :05:39. | :05:44. | |
joking, I will text in and find some time. You were angry? By was | :05:44. | :05:52. | |
displeased. On 21st December, the bombshell. Vince Cable is removed | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
from overseeing the BSkyB bid after he is caught telling undercover | :05:55. | :06:00. | |
reporters that he has declared war on Rupert Murdoch and the job has | :06:00. | :06:05. | |
given to Jeremy Hunt. On Christmas Eve, Frederick Michelle e-mails | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
James Murdoch, just Spock, he was happy for me to be the point of | :06:09. | :06:13. | |
contact with him at and Adam on behalf of James Murdoch going | :06:13. | :06:19. | |
forward. Very important to avoid giving those against any | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
opportunity to attack the fairness. This had gone through January and a | :06:23. | :06:29. | |
the 23rd, Frederick writes another e-mail. Just spoke to to a hitch, | :06:29. | :06:34. | |
we will report separately. There is an extraordinary discussion about | :06:34. | :06:38. | |
what Jeremy Hunt is planning in terms of the undertakings been Loew | :06:38. | :06:42. | |
of this. These were the promises that News Corporation offered in | :06:42. | :06:47. | |
terms of returning for the bid has not been reported to the | :06:47. | :06:51. | |
Competition Commission. Once he announces publicly that he has a | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
strong undertaking, it is almost game over for the opposition and in | :06:55. | :07:02. | |
another e-mail, he gives James Hunt was planning to go to | :07:02. | :07:07. | |
Parliament in two days. I have a very constructive conversation, he | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
is keen for me to work with his team on the statement during the | :07:11. | :07:14. | |
course of tomorrow and offers some possible language. That is really | :07:14. | :07:21. | |
good is. He is it appropriate that here you are getting the | :07:21. | :07:26. | |
confidential information as to what is going on a a high level in | :07:26. | :07:35. | |
government? I think... I think... What I was concerned with is the | :07:35. | :07:40. | |
substance of what was being CT it and not necessarily the Channel. | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
One interesting point to note in all of this, in his witness | :07:44. | :07:48. | |
statement to the inquiry, Frederick Michelle says that when he refers | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
to these e-mails to contacts and conversations with Jeremy Hunt, he | :07:51. | :07:59. | |
never actually had any contact. It was with his advisers. So... Is | :07:59. | :08:02. | |
this actually evidence of a man who has been caught out trying to | :08:02. | :08:10. | |
impress his bus with influence and contact? Jeremy Hunt tonight says | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
that he is keen to show that is what happened and he was to give | :08:14. | :08:19. | |
his evidence as soon as possible. We have evidence for today that | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
alleged meetings with me that did not happen and we need to get to | :08:22. | :08:26. | |
the bottom of that and rather than jumping on a political bandwagon, | :08:26. | :08:31. | |
what the public its to hear is what Lord Justice Levison himself thinks | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
after he has heard all the evidence. And there is plenty more evidence | :08:35. | :08:40. | |
to come tomorrow. It could be just as explosive. It is the turn of | :08:40. | :08:47. | |
Rupert Murdoch. David Grossman. With me now, our political editor, | :08:47. | :08:51. | |
Allegra Stratton, and our economics editor, Paul Mason. How much | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
trouble is Jeremy Hunt in? They are confident that he will stay, they | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
have tried to bring forward his appearance so that he can put his | :08:58. | :09:02. | |
own side of the argument and in that, there is a sense that he | :09:02. | :09:06. | |
should be left alone until he can put his side and there is some | :09:06. | :09:10. | |
suggestion that Levison isn't letting him bring forward his case | :09:10. | :09:14. | |
so he might have a window where it is hanging in the air and they are | :09:14. | :09:20. | |
confident because we have this Walter Mitty? As to what extent | :09:20. | :09:26. | |
either Frederick Michelle or Adam Smith, the interlocutor for | :09:26. | :09:29. | |
Michelle, with Jeremy Hunt, to what extent are they both acting with | :09:30. | :09:38. | |
their bosses knowledge? That is important. To what extent does | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
Frederick Michel inflate the information he has? The example | :09:41. | :09:44. | |
given around Westminster today is that early in the process he | :09:45. | :09:48. | |
asserts that Vince Cable is minded to support the bid and anybody who | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
knows Vince Cable knows that isn't the correct interpretation of Vince | :09:53. | :09:57. | |
Cable and Jeremy Hunt says that if you look at that, what is done to | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
other evidence? Jeremy Hunt is incredibly important to the Cameron | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
project and are seen as for the market, up until now, and many in | :10:05. | :10:10. | |
the future a very safe pair of hands. Perhaps a very famous | :10:10. | :10:15. | |
epithet! It is curious that we're not talking about James Murdoch | :10:15. | :10:19. | |
principally tonight. How do you think he came out of this? Prior to | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
this, we were asking, what do we think the Murdoch family strategy | :10:23. | :10:29. | |
is? This is a big week. We all know that the strategy is to bring down | :10:29. | :10:34. | |
one-on-one ministers in this Government because despite that | :10:34. | :10:38. | |
generally self-effacing approach, I was not doing anything untoward, | :10:38. | :10:41. | |
the effect is to create the impression, through evidence, | :10:41. | :10:46. | |
primarily out of the mouth of the lieutenant of James Murdoch, that | :10:46. | :10:52. | |
there was untoward and incredible access for that corporation to the | :10:52. | :10:58. | |
man who was supposed to take an objective decision. How ironic that | :10:58. | :11:00. | |
the Levison inquiry was set up because there was a feeling that | :11:00. | :11:05. | |
the Murdoch press was able to drop politicians in it and had a dossier | :11:05. | :11:11. | |
on them and could control politics? And here, through the platform of | :11:11. | :11:15. | |
the Nelson Inquiry, we have the destruction of a minister's career. | :11:15. | :11:23. | |
We are only at the beginning of this process because they are | :11:23. | :11:27. | |
members of the Armed Forces listed and members of the intelligence | :11:27. | :11:29. | |
service and maybe the royal household that will be named as | :11:29. | :11:34. | |
having been paid by the Murdoch family but this started with an | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
Minister and nobody expected this level of evidence to be presented | :11:37. | :11:43. | |
and as you said, he has to show that it is wrong. News Corp did | :11:43. | :11:48. | |
quite well? Yes, if you were a shareholder, he would say that not | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
only in James performance and what he said, I have batted for this | :11:52. | :11:55. | |
corporation, I took the elbow of the Prime Minister at Christmas and | :11:55. | :12:01. | |
asked him briefly to bear in mind our problems. A is a school of | :12:01. | :12:05. | |
thought that this is contrary to that, is this the worst and the | :12:05. | :12:13. | |
earliest? The idea that the Prime Minister is due to come soon. This | :12:13. | :12:16. | |
is a man alongside Vince Cable he was involved in the policy | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
implications of this and what could come next are suggestions of crime | :12:20. | :12:23. | |
in a sand being too close but not suggestions of policy being | :12:23. | :12:33. | |
affected. -- implications of grime. The focus is on Jeremy Hunt tonight. | :12:33. | :12:39. | |
And a lot of politicians... A huge number of people involved. It is | :12:39. | :12:45. | |
incredibly sticky. Anybody in Westminster... Frederick Michelle | :12:45. | :12:48. | |
was doing a very good job getting around all these people but there | :12:48. | :12:53. | |
is another individual drag into this, Alex Salmond, and today it | :12:53. | :12:58. | |
wasn't the same testimony that he has said that in return for support | :12:58. | :13:01. | |
from newspapers in Scotland he would also helped Jeremy Hunt get | :13:01. | :13:06. | |
involved in the bid for BSkyB. Thank you both very much. We | :13:06. | :13:10. | |
invited the Government tonight but they declined. We can talk to the | :13:10. | :13:15. | |
Labour deputy leader and shadow culture secretary, Harriet Harman. | :13:15. | :13:20. | |
And fighting for the conservative corner, Jacob Rees Mogg. Welcome to | :13:20. | :13:26. | |
both of you. The entry on the Kapadia for Jeremy Hunt was changed | :13:26. | :13:34. | |
today to say that he had resigned. Was that you? Certainly not. He did | :13:34. | :13:37. | |
not pause in calling for his resignation. Would not have been | :13:37. | :13:43. | |
better to wait for his response? The position is, if you are the | :13:43. | :13:46. | |
Secretary of State with responsibility for making a | :13:46. | :13:50. | |
decision which is a very important commercial decision which also has | :13:50. | :13:57. | |
big implications for the landscape across the media, you have to ask | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
in a quiz a judicial capacity so do not think like a politician, think | :14:01. | :14:06. | |
like a judge and be impartial. It is quite evident that although he | :14:06. | :14:14. | |
promised to act with impartiality and fairness, Jeremy Hunt did not | :14:14. | :14:16. | |
actually fulfilled the responsibilities of his office. | :14:16. | :14:20. | |
Both you and Ed Miliband rushed to the stump, what of this is only a | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
partial picture of what happened. We have not even heard his side of | :14:23. | :14:30. | |
the story. If you look at the e- mails at revising Rupert Murdoch, | :14:30. | :14:35. | |
before Jeremy Hunt did things, in great detail, what he was going to | :14:35. | :14:41. | |
do and what he was going to say was actually played out. If you look at | :14:41. | :14:47. | |
the email on 24th January, in minute detail, it goes into exactly | :14:47. | :14:51. | |
what Jeremy Hunt is going to say to the House of Commons in order to | :14:51. | :14:55. | |
justify rejecting the proposal by OFCOM that the bid should go to the | :14:55. | :15:01. | |
Competition Commission. Either Frederick Michelle is clairvoyant | :15:01. | :15:04. | |
and psychic and can work out exactly what Jeremy Hunt will do | :15:04. | :15:11. | |
the next day and tell his bus, James Murdoch, or else he was | :15:12. | :15:17. | |
informed on Jeremy Hunt's behalf. It is quite clear that he knew in | :15:17. | :15:20. | |
advance what was going on. The other thing is that you cannot say | :15:20. | :15:25. | |
you are acting impartially if you are giving information to one side | :15:25. | :15:34. | |
You don't buy this is the head of PR at News International, whatever, | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
bigging up his role to his bosses? Well, it's not credible to think he | :15:39. | :15:44. | |
was not given information when he was able to predict, before it has | :15:44. | :15:49. | |
happened, exactly, including the words, that Jeremy Hunt would be | :15:49. | :15:53. | |
using, having said that he discussed what the words were that | :15:53. | :15:58. | |
Jeremy Hunt should use to the House and then uses those words. This is | :15:58. | :16:06. | |
of great seriousness. You have to - Let's look from the beginning. | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
First, Jeremy Hunt is not the minister in charge. At which point | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
he's perfectly entitled to see members of the family and have a | :16:13. | :16:17. | |
private view. He then becomes the minister in charge, at which point | :16:17. | :16:21. | |
he won't meet with James Murdoch or other members of the family. The | :16:21. | :16:25. | |
phone call is a suggested call. It is not one that we are told that he | :16:25. | :16:32. | |
had. Hold on. We are told by this Frederic Michel man that JH doesn't | :16:32. | :16:37. | |
mean Mr Hunt. It means anybody in Mr Hunt's office and the company | :16:37. | :16:43. | |
News Corp is in negotiations with the Government about an jund taking | :16:43. | :16:48. | |
in lieu and therefore it -- jund taking in lieu, therefore it has to | :16:48. | :16:58. | |
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have a response so disagreement can be reached. What about the e-mails, | :17:00. | :17:06. | |
"He wanted Mr Murdoch to understand he wanted to build political | :17:06. | :17:11. | |
cover."? I have one, "Vince Cable call went very well. Cable said he | :17:11. | :17:15. | |
was coming as planned tomorrow evening. Cable appreciated." We all | :17:15. | :17:18. | |
know that the President of the board of trade loathed Rupert | :17:18. | :17:24. | |
Murdoch. He wanted to block the bid and yet this Frederic Michel is | :17:24. | :17:29. | |
boasting to his bosses that Cable is a supporter of Murdoch. He is a | :17:29. | :17:38. | |
PR man, who uses a -- emoticons and is not credible. How do you explain | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
the point that the words he anticipated came out? They were in | :17:42. | :17:44. | |
a negotiation about the undertakings in lieu. If the | :17:44. | :17:50. | |
Government is shown to have leaked, that will not be unique to this | :17:50. | :17:55. | |
Government. When you are acting in a quasijudicial capacity it's a | :17:55. | :17:59. | |
very different standard of responsibility you accept and I | :17:59. | :18:03. | |
think Jeremy Hunt, because he had been, as you say, involved in the | :18:03. | :18:07. | |
discussions with James Murdoch, when he didn't have responsibility | :18:07. | :18:14. | |
for the decision, when Vince Cable was not able to carry on with | :18:14. | :18:18. | |
responsibility, Jeremy Hunt should have said, "I can't be impartial | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
and act in a quasijudicial way, because everybody knows I've | :18:21. | :18:25. | |
committed myself to this bid. Somebody else will have to do it." | :18:25. | :18:30. | |
Your lot must be furious they were thrown out and another bias comes | :18:30. | :18:36. | |
along? I don't think there was any bias once Jeremy Hunt took over in | :18:36. | :18:40. | |
the quasijudicial role. I think from that point he behaved | :18:40. | :18:46. | |
rigorously. Hold on. He called it the office -- called in Ofcom and | :18:46. | :18:49. | |
the Office of Fair Trading. He didn't have to do that. He took | :18:49. | :18:53. | |
independent advice throughout the process. His behaviour was so above | :18:53. | :18:56. | |
board that it was painfully honest. Meanwhile, you have David Cameron | :18:56. | :19:02. | |
who said he hadn't been involved in any of this process at a dinner | :19:02. | :19:07. | |
party just after Jeremy Hunt took over admitting that he discussed it. | :19:07. | :19:11. | |
It's completely irrelevant. Why? Because the minister was making the | :19:11. | :19:17. | |
What was David Cameron denying he had been involved if he was having | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
that chat? He wasn't involved in the decision. It was being made | :19:22. | :19:26. | |
which the Prime Minister could not constitutionally intervene in. | :19:26. | :19:28. | |
Rupert Murdoch would have had dinner with the Queen for all it | :19:28. | :19:33. | |
would have mattered, because the decision was being made by the sos | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
for culture. You are completely happy -- the Secretary of State for | :19:37. | :19:44. | |
culture. So you are happy with the relationship over this incredibly | :19:44. | :19:54. | |
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Yes. I don't think it is acceptable to say you will be operating in qas | :19:57. | :20:01. | |
say juddaigs manner, collude with the other side about the | :20:01. | :20:04. | |
information you give in parliament, give the information to one side | :20:04. | :20:07. | |
before parliament, and take on that responsibility, when you have | :20:07. | :20:11. | |
already committed yourself to the same objective as the bid. I think | :20:11. | :20:14. | |
that really, instead of David Cameron saying he's done absolutely | :20:14. | :20:17. | |
the right thing, he should be upholding high standards in public | :20:17. | :20:20. | |
office, and saying this is different, this is not politics, | :20:20. | :20:26. | |
this is quasi-judicial commercial decision making, and Jeremy Hunt | :20:26. | :20:31. | |
has let his office down and should resign. Have you spoken to Jeremy | :20:31. | :20:34. | |
Hunt? I don't know Jeremy Hunt, I'm supporting the Conservative cabinet | :20:34. | :20:39. | |
minister, who I think has done a good, decent and proper job. Don't | :20:39. | :20:43. | |
you worry that you are putting yourself out on a limb here, with | :20:43. | :20:47. | |
somebody who hasn't even managed to deny the whole thing, all he has | :20:47. | :20:53. | |
said is he wants to appear before Leveson and refers up? All we have | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
heard is a string of allegation, they say he leaked his statement, | :20:57. | :21:00. | |
there is no evidence of that. We knew News Corporation was in | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
negotiations with the Government to give this undertaking. There had to | :21:04. | :21:08. | |
be an exchange of information relating to the undertaking. | :21:08. | :21:11. | |
Allegations are being cast around without evidence for them. | :21:11. | :21:16. | |
Jeremy Hunt left. If in the process of this he left, would that wipe | :21:16. | :21:20. | |
the slate clean, as far as you are concerned? I think it would uphold | :21:20. | :21:26. | |
the important issue of people acting quasi-judicially, how will | :21:26. | :21:30. | |
the public think the Government, in future decisions, with huge | :21:30. | :21:33. | |
commercial implications, will act impartially, on the evidence, | :21:33. | :21:38. | |
according to law, when Jeremy Hunt has now got to respond to a whole | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
shrew of e-mail. Jeremy Hunt will document everything he has done, as | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
he did in his successive statements to the Commons. We would very much | :21:45. | :21:48. | |
like to keep you both here for the next discussion, which will broaden | :21:48. | :21:52. | |
out a bit. As I was mention, David Cameron, it emerged today, | :21:52. | :21:57. | |
discussed plans for the takeover at a private dinner with James Murdoch, | :21:57. | :22:05. | |
it was heard that S NP's Alex Salmond helped with the bid. Tony | :22:05. | :22:09. | |
Blair flew half way around the world for the relationship. What do | :22:09. | :22:19. | |
:22:19. | :22:23. | ||
we make of the relations between these parties, are they really over. | :22:23. | :22:28. | |
The News of the World was characterised by cavalier or | :22:28. | :22:32. | |
swashbuckling attitude to rissnk Knowing what we know now about the | :22:32. | :22:37. | |
culture at News of the World in 206, for example, they must have been | :22:37. | :22:42. | |
cavalier about risk, that is matter of huge regret. Your meetings with | :22:43. | :22:46. | |
Gordon Brown, they appear to be largely a social nature? That's | :22:46. | :22:51. | |
correct, pretty much, I remember on the middle one, the 15th of | :22:51. | :22:58. | |
December 2008, I don't remember, but he would have told me lots of | :22:58. | :23:08. | |
:23:08. | :23:11. | ||
things about the economy. It was made clear to Mr Cameron, by | :23:11. | :23:17. | |
me, that after discussions with the editor and the leadership at News | :23:17. | :23:22. | |
International and my father, that autumn the Sun would either be | :23:22. | :23:26. | |
endorsing the Conservative Party, or certainly, you know, moving away | :23:26. | :23:29. | |
from its traditional, or recent support of Labour, as it had been | :23:29. | :23:33. | |
through the summer. Yes, and this must have been | :23:33. | :23:40. | |
welcome news to Mr Cameron, wasn't it? It seemed that way. | :23:40. | :23:47. | |
Two days after the revelation that Mr Cable might not be approaching | :23:47. | :23:51. | |
the BSkyB bid with an entirely open mind, if I can put it in that way. | :23:51. | :23:57. | |
It was two days after Mr Cable had been removed from his | :23:57. | :24:00. | |
responsibilities after showing acute bias. So the state of the bid | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
was very much in your mind on the 23rd of December. It was, there was | :24:04. | :24:07. | |
a big question mark about what would happen going forward, there | :24:07. | :24:10. | |
was no discussion with Mr Cameron, other than I have detailed in my | :24:10. | :24:14. | |
witness statement, he reiterated what he said publicly, which was | :24:14. | :24:20. | |
the behaviour had been unacceptable. I imagine I expressed a hope that | :24:20. | :24:28. | |
things would be dealt with in a way that was appropriate and judicial. | :24:28. | :24:32. | |
I'm not sure you have given me an answer Mr Murdoch, a solution, that | :24:32. | :24:42. | |
:24:42. | :24:43. | ||
is? I think it is a little above my pay grade, Sir. I doubt it! | :24:43. | :24:49. | |
Although I have no idea about your pay grade, I certainly know mine! | :24:49. | :24:53. | |
Jason Rees Mogg is still with us, also here the recently elected | :24:53. | :25:00. | |
Respect MP, Galloway ga, the Labour peer, film maker and architect of | :25:00. | :25:05. | |
Ofcom, and Neville Thurlbeck of the For Neville e-mails, working for | :25:06. | :25:12. | |
the charity Talking2Minds. Sorry, Neville was arrested over | :25:12. | :25:17. | |
allegations of phone hacking, he's bailed until May, for legal reasons | :25:17. | :25:20. | |
we can't ask him about that case, for the record he denies phone | :25:20. | :25:26. | |
hacking. I have to get that out of the way before going on with the | :25:26. | :25:30. | |
debate, that is the wider relationship between Murdoch and | :25:30. | :25:36. | |
politicians. It does feel like another day and another heap of man | :25:36. | :25:44. | |
Euro-has come out of the news -- manure has come out of the News | :25:44. | :25:48. | |
Corporation stables? If you put an organisation under the microscope | :25:48. | :25:52. | |
of something like the Leveson Inquiry, you will find that will | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
embarrass the company severely. Today the company has found itself | :25:55. | :25:59. | |
in a difficult position, and Mr Hnut has found himself in an even | :25:59. | :26:04. | |
more difficult position. Whether or not Mr Hnut is guilty of any bias | :26:04. | :26:09. | |
is kind of by the by. He or his staff have allowed themselves to | :26:09. | :26:14. | |
give the appearance of bias, which it has undermined the department, | :26:14. | :26:19. | |
and what Mr Hnut does not have in his favour, is time. This thing | :26:19. | :26:23. | |
will run very quickly, he has to get on top of it very quickly, | :26:23. | :26:28. | |
otherwise it will form a very, very negative life force for him and the | :26:28. | :26:32. | |
Government. Who do you think comes out of this worse? The Government, | :26:32. | :26:35. | |
you can't really blame a capitalist company for doing everything that | :26:35. | :26:41. | |
it could to get a bigger market share of the market that it was in. | :26:41. | :26:45. | |
But if only we could have seen the e-mails from the Tony Blair and | :26:45. | :26:49. | |
Gordon Brown Premiership, with the Murdochs, then we would know that | :26:49. | :26:55. | |
both Labour and the Conservatives have been in bed with, and have not, | :26:55. | :27:01. | |
like Neville, infamously, made their excuses and left. Have you | :27:01. | :27:04. | |
any evidence of business deals that involved the Blair Government and | :27:04. | :27:09. | |
the Murdochs? As you put it, Tony Blair flew half way around the | :27:09. | :27:19. | |
world to play homage at the Murdoch king. The attendance at Chequers by | :27:19. | :27:23. | |
Murdoch and the partners, far outstriped than under the Tory | :27:23. | :27:27. | |
years. It is not that the Tories are not guilty, but both are guilty | :27:27. | :27:33. | |
with being in bed with an evil, wicked empire, a stain on the | :27:33. | :27:38. | |
country. I left my mobile in the cloakroom in case Neville Thurlbeck | :27:38. | :27:42. | |
hacked it, because he and his fellows have been systematically | :27:42. | :27:46. | |
corrupting the system in this country for at least 25, maybe 40 | :27:46. | :27:49. | |
years. You are a Labour peer, this is one for you, there is just as | :27:49. | :27:55. | |
much dirt on both sides, toxicity? You use that word, it is right. We | :27:55. | :28:00. | |
are all victims of this. I feel sorry, genuinely, for Neville, I | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
feel sorry for a lot of the people caught up in this. We are dealing | :28:03. | :28:08. | |
in a culture that has got progressively worse for a number of | :28:08. | :28:12. | |
years, it is not getting bottomed out. I like Jeremy Hunt as a guy, | :28:13. | :28:16. | |
it doesn't matter if he stays or goes f he goes politicians and | :28:16. | :28:20. | |
politics will say, job done, next, another one comes in and off we go | :28:20. | :28:24. | |
again. We have to bottom this out. I mention today Jacob before we | :28:24. | :28:30. | |
went on air, I mean it sincerely, it is his generation that have to | :28:30. | :28:34. | |
deal with this, we can't go on with this ludicrous situation. What | :28:34. | :28:38. | |
Leveson is unravelling is a situation where this was a banana | :28:38. | :28:41. | |
Republic, this was a joke, the bankrupt police, the corrupt press, | :28:41. | :28:44. | |
we have corrupt politicians and it was getting worse. When will this | :28:44. | :28:48. | |
start. Isn't it odd that you are not, you don't feel apologetic for | :28:48. | :28:53. | |
any of this, you are defending the Culture Secretary staujly tonight | :28:53. | :28:56. | |
and saying business is fine? -- staunchly tonight, and saying | :28:56. | :29:00. | |
business is fine? We have to have a sense of proportion, some | :29:00. | :29:02. | |
disgraceful things have happened, and the criminal law is working | :29:02. | :29:05. | |
through to deal with those. It is in the nature of politics and | :29:05. | :29:08. | |
journalism that politicians and journalists want to be close to | :29:08. | :29:11. | |
each other. My father was invited to Chequers Bihar rolled Wilson, | :29:11. | :29:19. | |
fat lot of use it did for Harold Wilson, as editor of the Times. | :29:19. | :29:22. | |
Lord Salisbury wrote articles under other people's names criticising | :29:22. | :29:26. | |
politicians in the 19th century. Politics and journalism has this | :29:26. | :29:30. | |
relationship and it always will, but the criminal law should be | :29:30. | :29:34. | |
upheld. Of course politicians will seek to influence journalist, the | :29:34. | :29:37. | |
proper attitude for journalists towards politicians should be that | :29:37. | :29:43. | |
of the dog to the lampost, and it isn't. You have favoured, or rather | :29:43. | :29:48. | |
your father's newspaper, the Times, has favoured. You have favoured | :29:48. | :29:53. | |
politicians, in exchange for business concession. That is | :29:53. | :29:57. | |
corrupt, everyone watching this knows that. I think this is very | :29:57. | :30:00. | |
niave. It assumes that just because you have lunch with somebody you | :30:00. | :30:05. | |
then write a piece saying they are fabulous, you don't, that is not | :30:05. | :30:13. | |
the way it works. With Alex Salmond it is there in writing. He has | :30:13. | :30:17. | |
denied that and it is referred to the Leveson Inquiry, so that is out | :30:17. | :30:23. | |
of the way. You have to be kaifrt with PR people. You are getting an | :30:23. | :30:28. | |
easy ride here, you are the one a lot of this dirt should be aimed at, | :30:28. | :30:31. | |
you have created these incredible complicated relationships between | :30:31. | :30:37. | |
the people that you write about? There is, as we have said there is | :30:37. | :30:42. | |
always a strong relationship between newspaper pro-priorers, | :30:42. | :30:47. | |
journalists and -- proprietors, and politicians, there is nothing wrong | :30:47. | :30:57. | |
:30:57. | :30:59. | ||
with that, you know. Charities and others seek to influence | :30:59. | :31:03. | |
Governments and we accept it. When a corporation comes along with | :31:03. | :31:07. | |
money, that isn't necessarily wrong. It becomes wrong when Government | :31:07. | :31:10. | |
ministers become unduly influenced by that. That still remains to be | :31:10. | :31:16. | |
seen. It has to be said that Frederic Michel, I know him, not | :31:16. | :31:21. | |
well, but I know Frederic Michel. He's a very, very persuasive | :31:21. | :31:26. | |
operator, we have to wonder, also, whether Frederic Michel was being, | :31:26. | :31:30. | |
was overplaying his hand with his very demanding boss. You think he | :31:30. | :31:33. | |
as not that credible? I'm not saying he's not that credible. What | :31:33. | :31:37. | |
I'm saying is we have to hear what Mr Hnut has to say. Because it | :31:37. | :31:45. | |
might Hans It -- it might transpire that Frederic Michel has been | :31:45. | :31:51. | |
overplaying his hand to a great extent. He has admitted that the JH | :31:51. | :31:54. | |
references can also refer to Adam Smith and members of his team. | :31:54. | :31:59. | |
made this a priority, many years ago, you were one of the architects | :31:59. | :32:06. | |
of media regulation, did you think we would be embroiled in this kind | :32:06. | :32:11. | |
of taudryness? It is heard breaking, he believe when we created Ofcom we | :32:11. | :32:14. | |
were protecting ministers from becoming embroiled in exactly this | :32:14. | :32:19. | |
situation. They should never have touched the BSkyB deal at all? | :32:19. | :32:23. | |
Never. What really hurts me, I put this to Jacob, is Ofcom was there | :32:24. | :32:28. | |
to give advice. If my reading of these e-mails clear, there was | :32:28. | :32:32. | |
every attempt by the Government to undercut and subvert what Ofcom was | :32:33. | :32:37. | |
doing. What James Murdoch we know hates Ofcom. There is another | :32:37. | :32:40. | |
problem Jacob has to address, why was it, when the Prime Minister did | :32:40. | :32:44. | |
his famous speech, the bonfire of the quangos, the one he chose to | :32:44. | :32:48. | |
pick out, was Ofcom has to be cut back. Not only has Ofcom not been | :32:48. | :32:55. | |
cut back, but why did he choose it? Two questions to answer, the first | :32:55. | :32:58. | |
one, is that Jeremy Hunt actually consulted Ofcom, which he didn't | :32:58. | :33:02. | |
legally need to do. That is an important part of the bid process, | :33:02. | :33:06. | |
and an important part of the defence of Jeremy Hunt. Ofcom | :33:06. | :33:10. | |
regulates more than television, it also regulates telecoms, and | :33:10. | :33:14. | |
telecoms has become so competitive that it needs much less regulatory | :33:14. | :33:17. | |
interference than it used to need. There are savings to be made. | :33:17. | :33:21. | |
want to move on to tomorrow, that will be a big day for Leveson. We | :33:21. | :33:24. | |
have Rupert Murdoch, the mogul himself, appearing at the inquiry. | :33:24. | :33:29. | |
I'm interested to know whether you think this will now be the end? Do | :33:29. | :33:31. | |
you think the Cameron Government, possibly the Labour Government, | :33:31. | :33:34. | |
will shut the doors on this relationship with the Murdochs? | :33:34. | :33:37. | |
think the Murdochs will be out of the British media market before | :33:37. | :33:42. | |
very long. I think the shareholder, the other directors, powerful | :33:42. | :33:48. | |
people, really are at the end of their tether in all of this, I | :33:48. | :33:51. | |
think the Murdochs will have to devest their media interests. There | :33:51. | :33:57. | |
is no way they will be able to take over Sky TV now, and the newspapers | :33:57. | :34:01. | |
won't make good of this too. you happy to be rid of British | :34:01. | :34:04. | |
politicians? I make no comment on that, that is a very interesting | :34:04. | :34:10. | |
point you make about Murdochs quitting newspapers. It is long | :34:10. | :34:13. | |
been thought within News International that the son, James, | :34:13. | :34:19. | |
has absolutely no interest in the newspapers. That he will devest | :34:19. | :34:23. | |
himself of them when the time comes. That is why the Murdochs have | :34:23. | :34:25. | |
exploded this bomb in the Government's court today. | :34:25. | :34:31. | |
Thank you very much indeed. Over the next seven days two women | :34:31. | :34:36. | |
will be killed by their partners or ex-partners, the group most at risk | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
of violent relationships, according to the Director of Public | :34:40. | :34:43. | |
Prosecutions s teenage girls. A survey by the NSPCC, found one in | :34:43. | :34:48. | |
four teenagers has been physically abused by their partner. Currently, | :34:48. | :34:51. | |
domestic violence relates to something that happens between | :34:51. | :34:55. | |
adults, the Government is thinking of applying it to under 18s because | :34:55. | :35:00. | |
of the gap in services. One young woman who experienced it first hand | :35:00. | :35:05. | |
is Taylah Douglas, this is her story. | :35:05. | :35:09. | |
When I first met him it was good, he was my first proper boyfriend. | :35:09. | :35:19. | |
:35:19. | :35:24. | ||
He properly turned into a different person about two or three months | :35:24. | :35:28. | |
into the relationship. He would call me a bitch, and call me ugly, | :35:28. | :35:35. | |
and call me fat, he would call me a slut. He started to push me, and | :35:35. | :35:43. | |
pull me, and he started to hit me really, like, burn me with lighters, | :35:43. | :35:47. | |
and then it got on to hitting, punching and slapping. He told me | :35:47. | :35:52. | |
that I couldn't go back home. He took away my phone, even if I | :35:52. | :35:55. | |
wanted to go back, I couldn't call anyone, I had no money for train | :35:55. | :36:00. | |
ticket. I felt isolated, I felt completely aown. I just woke up one | :36:00. | :36:05. | |
day and -- alone. I just woke up one day and I felt different, I | :36:05. | :36:08. | |
knew if I didn't leave it would end up in a really bad way, I didn't | :36:08. | :36:13. | |
know if he was going to kill me or what was going to happen. The day I | :36:13. | :36:17. | |
did escape, I didn't take anything with me, I just got out of there. I | :36:17. | :36:21. | |
went to the council, when they first offered me housing, they | :36:21. | :36:25. | |
offered me a bed and breakfast, which was on the same road as my | :36:25. | :36:35. | |
:36:35. | :36:42. | ||
I had to move, all together, seven times, I went to certain hostels | :36:42. | :36:46. | |
more than once, I moved all together several times, every time | :36:46. | :36:49. | |
I have moved he has found me. In one of my hostels he showed up and | :36:49. | :36:54. | |
forced his way in, and he threw a microwave at my head. He went | :36:54. | :36:58. | |
unconscious, and I was probably unconscious for a couple of minutes, | :36:58. | :37:01. | |
not very long, but enough to wake up and I was on the other side of | :37:01. | :37:05. | |
the room, and he was just stamping all over me on my head, on my body, | :37:06. | :37:14. | |
and then I kept going in and out of consciousness. | :37:14. | :37:18. | |
The nurse said that she was going to have to contact the police, and | :37:18. | :37:23. | |
I told her I didn't want her to, I told her I wanted to go home, and | :37:23. | :37:26. | |
the police turned up any way. They said they were going to go to his | :37:26. | :37:30. | |
address and find him, if they found him, arrest him. But they didn't | :37:30. | :37:36. | |
find him, that was the end of it. Did the police offer you any other | :37:36. | :37:39. | |
help, like counselling, social services? No they never offered me | :37:39. | :37:49. | |
:37:49. | :37:50. | ||
anything, the police didn't offer me any sort of other help. | :37:50. | :37:54. | |
I was never offered a refuge. you even know about it? I didn't | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
even know what a refuge was until now. I didn't know what a refuge | :37:58. | :38:07. | |
was. Some of the hostels I stayed in were disgusting, there were drug | :38:07. | :38:12. | |
needles, in the bathrooms. I was living at one point inbetween a | :38:12. | :38:17. | |
crack head and a prostitute. You are only supposed to live in | :38:17. | :38:20. | |
emergency accommodation, which is bed and breakfast, or three months, | :38:20. | :38:30. | |
:38:30. | :38:32. | ||
I had been there for three years. When all this happened to me, I | :38:32. | :38:37. | |
felt very alone. I didn't realise how common my experience was. I | :38:37. | :38:43. | |
want to know what can be done to help teenagers like me. I have come | :38:43. | :38:48. | |
to meet a girl who was in a same- sex relationship, she felt so | :38:48. | :38:55. | |
trapped by the abuse, that she ended up harming herself. | :38:55. | :39:03. | |
I started cutting myself, I drunk bleach at one point, where me and | :39:03. | :39:08. | |
my ex-girlfriend had an argument, and I drunk bleach, I thought, | :39:08. | :39:12. | |
that's going to watch away my problems, bleach burns, that will | :39:12. | :39:18. | |
wash away my problems. So I took the bleach, and then I got sent to | :39:19. | :39:28. | |
:39:29. | :39:32. | ||
hospital. In one incident Armani was threatened at knife-point by | :39:32. | :39:36. | |
her girlfriend, she didn't want the police to be involved. I felt like | :39:36. | :39:39. | |
it wasn't necessary, it wasn't relevant for the police to be | :39:39. | :39:44. | |
involved, it would cause more drama. I personally don't like police. | :39:44. | :39:49. | |
There is a lack of trust for the police? Unlike Armani, eventually | :39:49. | :39:54. | |
after months of abuse, I did get the police involved. I called the | :39:54. | :39:59. | |
police at least 15 times, I wanted them to help me protect myself from | :39:59. | :40:02. | |
my ex-boyfriend, I didn't want to press charges because I was too | :40:02. | :40:06. | |
scared, now you want to know why nothing was done. | :40:06. | :40:09. | |
The Chief Constable in charge of domestic abuse nationally has | :40:09. | :40:16. | |
agreed to meet me. I called the police 20 times and he | :40:16. | :40:22. | |
only got arrested once, he was held in a cell overnight but released | :40:22. | :40:26. | |
the next morning. Since then nothing has happened, do you think | :40:26. | :40:31. | |
the police take domestic violence seriously when it is a 16-year-old | :40:31. | :40:34. | |
boy hitting a 16-year-old girl? think your story shows we have a | :40:34. | :40:37. | |
lot to do in relation to getting police officers to understand. | :40:37. | :40:40. | |
Actually young people are in relationships at a lot younger age, | :40:40. | :40:45. | |
and to understand that this is not acceptable, whatever the age, and | :40:45. | :40:47. | |
that's the work that I'm doing right the way across the police | :40:47. | :40:51. | |
service in England and Wales, to actually get a training programme | :40:51. | :40:54. | |
in place. Sometimes the police asked me in front of my ex- | :40:54. | :40:59. | |
boyfriend, what I wanted to do, if I wanted to press charges? I didn't | :40:59. | :41:04. | |
want to say anything in front of my ex-boyfriend, as it is a really | :41:04. | :41:07. | |
awkward situation. Do you not think it is wrong to ask the victim in | :41:08. | :41:12. | |
front of the attacker? For me that is basic common sense, that you | :41:12. | :41:16. | |
wouldn't ask somebody such a question in front of someone else. | :41:16. | :41:20. | |
What else can they say? Even if I didn't want to press charges, isn't | :41:20. | :41:23. | |
it the case that the police are supposed to pursue the | :41:23. | :41:27. | |
investigation any way? Yes, they are. Because you have made an | :41:27. | :41:30. | |
allegation of crime. Actually you have made an allegation against | :41:31. | :41:35. | |
somebody, which is serious, we know from the evidence base and the | :41:35. | :41:41. | |
training tells us, that unless we respond then quite often people | :41:41. | :41:46. | |
become repeat victims. She told me about new policies the police are | :41:46. | :41:50. | |
working on. We are doing work with the Home Office to propose we | :41:50. | :41:54. | |
reduce the common definition of domestic abuse to also include | :41:54. | :41:58. | |
young people right down to the age of 16. We are piloting a thing | :41:58. | :42:02. | |
called Domestic Violence Protection Orders, which removes the | :42:02. | :42:06. | |
individual, the perpetrator from the home, which enables property | :42:06. | :42:16. | |
:42:16. | :42:17. | ||
safety planning and the victim to make choices over a period of time. | :42:17. | :42:20. | |
The Government says it is spending �28 million on domestic violence | :42:20. | :42:25. | |
services, but in the last year they have seen big cuts by local | :42:26. | :42:30. | |
authorities. How is the Government going to help people like me when | :42:30. | :42:35. | |
services are being cut? I'm here at the House of Commons, to talk to | :42:35. | :42:41. | |
the minister, Lynne Featherstone, I want to talk to her about my | :42:41. | :42:45. | |
experience of domestic violence and talk to her about shou she and the | :42:45. | :42:49. | |
Government will help other young women. I'm really nervous, | :42:49. | :42:53. | |
hopefully my nerves will turn into excitement and it will go well. Do | :42:53. | :42:57. | |
you recognise there has been cuts and that there will be more? | :42:57. | :43:01. | |
Obviously this Government and the coalition of left with the biggest | :43:01. | :43:05. | |
deficit since the war. So, yes, there have been Government cuts, | :43:05. | :43:11. | |
but, as I said, we have ring-fenced �28 million of Home Office funding, | :43:11. | :43:15. | |
and �10 million of the Ministry of Justice funding, to support | :43:15. | :43:18. | |
services, to send out a message to local authorities, who actually do | :43:18. | :43:24. | |
most of the funding, to the violence against women charities | :43:24. | :43:30. | |
and support services, to say, don't cut this, this is a vulnerable | :43:30. | :43:39. | |
sector. Women's Aid reckon the refuges face cuts, do you think | :43:40. | :43:45. | |
cutting that will help women like me? Of course not. The Government | :43:45. | :43:48. | |
has ring-fenced spending to set an example, it has never been done in | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
the Home Office before, never ring- fenced that amount of money to say | :43:51. | :43:54. | |
this is really important, because girls like you are so vulnerable. | :43:54. | :43:58. | |
I'm really sorry that there is hard times going on, but it is not just | :43:58. | :44:01. | |
the Government, we have all got to play our part in this, local | :44:01. | :44:06. | |
authorities included. Whoever is responsible for | :44:06. | :44:09. | |
providing support for girls in abusive relationships, for some, | :44:09. | :44:15. | |
help comes too late. This is Cassie, we were friends in | :44:15. | :44:24. | |
Germany. Here she is again. Jennifer's daughter, Cassandra, was | :44:24. | :44:28. | |
killed by her ex-boyfriend, it took seven years to bring him to justice | :44:29. | :44:33. | |
t and only after he attempted to murder nearly Gill friend. | :44:33. | :44:40. | |
death has actually destroyed me as a person, as a mum. -- another | :44:40. | :44:45. | |
girlfriend. Her death has actually destroyed me as a person. As a mum. | :44:45. | :44:51. | |
The impact it has on her friends and sisters, and on the community. | :44:51. | :44:54. | |
Now Jennifer runs the Cassandra Learning Centre, helping other | :44:54. | :44:58. | |
girls just like me. What do you feel when you meet someone like me, | :44:58. | :45:03. | |
in a similar situation to your daughter? My immediate feelings is | :45:03. | :45:12. | |
to smother you with everything a mother would do. To protect you and | :45:12. | :45:20. | |
to give you all the information that I can to keep you safe. Just | :45:20. | :45:25. | |
to make sure you don't go through that hurt, that pain. | :45:25. | :45:33. | |
You looks a if you are going to cry. Sorry. | :45:33. | :45:43. | |
:45:43. | :45:45. | ||
Let me love you. It's OK. You're alive. OK. | :45:45. | :45:49. | |
What shocked me making the film was how common what I went through is, | :45:49. | :45:53. | |
and what really shocked me is how many girls and women end up dead. I | :45:53. | :45:56. | |
think that Jennifer is really an amazing woman. When her daughter | :45:56. | :46:03. | |
died she could have given up, but instead, she used her knowledge and | :46:03. | :46:07. | |
her grief to help other people like me. I appreciated meeting the | :46:07. | :46:10. | |
minister, and I appreciated meeting the police as well. I just hope | :46:10. | :46:13. | |
that everything they promised they can pull through with. I think that | :46:13. | :46:16. | |
it will really help people in the future, so that no-one has to go | :46:16. | :46:20. | |
through what I went through. Taylah Douglas making that film for | :46:20. | :46:25. | |
Let's take you through the front pages of the Telegraph. The same | :46:25. | :46:35. | |
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That's all from Newsnight tonight, plenty more tomorrow, very good | :47:08. | :47:18. | |
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Another spell of wet and windy weather to sweep across the country. | :47:22. | :47:27. | |
It starts overnight, the strongest gusts along the south coast, the | :47:27. | :47:31. | |
strong winds blow the rain further north throughout the day. Dry | :47:31. | :47:36. | |
brighter spells in parts of western Scotland. After a dry start | :47:36. | :47:41. | |
northern England turns soggy. Cool in the east with a strong wind off | :47:41. | :47:45. | |
the North Sea. Some pretty vicious afternoon showers, torrential | :47:45. | :47:49. | |
downpours, hail and thunder, likely to be mixed in. Frequent showers | :47:49. | :47:53. | |
across the south west of England, the winds actually falling lighter | :47:53. | :47:57. | |
through the afternoon, after a blustery morning. Gusty throughout | :47:57. | :48:02. | |
the day. Further outbreaks of heavy rain, followed by lively storms. | :48:02. | :48:06. | |
The wet weather reaching the south west corner of Northern Ireland. | :48:06. | :48:10. | |
Sunny intervals, showers, the mixture too across Scotland. With | :48:10. | :48:14. | |
the best of the dry and bright weather across Scotland. We're not | :48:14. | :48:17. | |
done there. More wet weather, particularly across north-east | :48:17. | :48:20. | |
England and eastern Scotland again on Thursday. Again it will feel | :48:20. | :48:24. | |
cool, with the outbreaks of rain. Further south, again that mixture | :48:24. | :48:28. | |
of sunshine and showers on Thursday. Likely to see some fairly lively | :48:28. | :48:31. | |
downpours once more, hail and thunder can't be ruled out. It will | :48:31. | :48:35. |