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Tonight, the biggest test of public opinion since the general election.

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The first chance to hear how voters across Britain are reacting to the

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double-dip recession, the polls closed half an hour ago. In London,

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Boris or Ken, the result could influence party politics for years.

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If Boris remains mayor, it could give the Tories a boost on the

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tough night. But the two-term mayor could come to test a Prime Minister

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who hasn't yet won one majority. We will be reporting from elections

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around the country, and assessing the impact on the three main

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parties. Plus, how the operators of Heathrow

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Airport undermined a minister on how long the queues had been at

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immigration. If you are travelling this bank holiday, good luck, we

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will hear from the Immigration Minister.

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The last days of Osama Bin Laden, new documents showed how he planned

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to relaunch Al-Qaeda, and murder President Obama.

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And Putin's palace, as he prepares to take over the presidency again.

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Newsnight investigates whether he plans to live like the new Tsar of

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Russia? Good evening, one foreign reporter,

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likened today's elections the length and breath of Britain, to

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talent show with really boring contestants. That, however, is not

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how the results will be seen in party headquarters, for the

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governing parties, how will voters react to big national issues, the

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continuing recession, the aftermath of the budget. For Labour, how

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credible does Ed Miliband looks a leader, as a possible Prime

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Minister. And for the smaller parties, will voter disaffection

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mean they might pull off some big surprises. Our political editor is

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here. What's at stake tonight? tomorrow night we will know whether

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these mid-term blues that the Government has certainly been

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suffering are actually long-term blues, but it is not just for the

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Government, it is also that we will have a better sense whether the

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leader of the opposition cuts it across the country, south as well

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as north. With these in 2012, basically half way through a

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parliamentary term, they are always going to be up for the opposition.

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To a certain extent we are playing a game of numbers, this 350 versus

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750 gain that is Labour must make. It is difficult to ascertain what

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they will get. The numbers will help us evaluate the bad run the

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Government has had since the budget, has it stuck and crystalised in

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people's mind that these people are not particularly competent in

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running the country. Also in the turns will with see the Liberal

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Democrats really suffering still, and in the south, does the Labour

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leader look like somebody people would endorse. In London there is a

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big race for mayors going on. Around the country we have found

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results about referendas for mayors, similar to what we have had in

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London. If there is bad turn out on that, and people are not interested,

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that is a bad audit on a key radical piece of this Government's

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policy, that it will be difficult for them to style them he was

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selves out of. In London we have a big race of personalities of two

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people known by their first names. Good strategists think London's

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voting preferences are like a doughnut, at least that was it last

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election, will it work this time round. The school of political

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bakery thinks this, London is a Labour city, if only those people

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in its middle vote, so think Boris Johnson's strategists, but they

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squinted and saw a doughy ring out in the suburbs where Conservatives

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hid and lived. Last year they were lured out and voted Conservative,

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four years on Ken Livingstone wants a piece of them. Today with the

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polls shut, and nothing left to do but harry voters, Newsnight thought,

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let them eat dough NUTs. It is in the outer metropolitan zone. I was

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aware that Ken cared last time, was really aware, and I have seen what

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has happened in London whilst Boris has been in power. You live in

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central London, which means you are the space inside the doughnut.

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About about do you live? Balham. How have you gone, is it the colour

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of your jacket? No. It is the colour of his jumper. Boris?

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come? I just like him, I think he's personable, I really don't like Ken.

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Political bakery not the most sustaining of political strategies,

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then, we headed into the suburbs, nonetheless, to find out how much

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success Livingstone has been having. London Bridge, the site of the

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great doughnut givaway, brings people in from places like Bexley,

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Livingstone targeted these voters with an immediate popular pledge,

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he would cut their train fares by as much as �1,000 over four years.

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I think I'm going to go with Labour. Not because I believe Ken

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Livingstone should come back in, but just because I believe Labour

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will do well for us. It is all Conservative round here, mainly.

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What makes you vote Labour? always have, and I like Livingstone,

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I like what he started in the beginning, with the bus passes et

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cetera. Did you vote Labour at the last election? Yes. Where are these

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Tory voters round here, this is supposed to be heavy Tory area?

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They are hiding, they saw you coming and they hid. I think it

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will stay Conservative. Will you help Boris Johnson keep it

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Conservative? Probably, yes. Bexley Ken Livingstone seemed to

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have made some inroads, what did the academics think? Last time

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Boris Johnson did well, particularly in outer East London,

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this time Ken Livingstone and Labour targeted that area. But, of

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course, Boris is still pretty powerful out there, both candidates

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were trying to target it this time. Now we will see tomorrow whether

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this means that Ken has managed to redowse the Tory lead out there, or

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whether it has allowed a bit more Boris voting in central and Inner

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London. It was because of how well Boris Johnson did in outer London

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last time, that Labour really hit it this time. If Ken wins, it is

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because they put effort into places like this, Bexley Heath, but his

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colleagues have a sober appraisal of the process, they think if Boris

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wins is it is because Boris is Boris, but if Ken wins it is

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because he has been buoyed along by Labour in the polls in recent

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months. The candidate to be London mayor was the day before the

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candidate to be Labour leader, that is not way to run a party.

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On whether Ken Livingstone should have been Labour's man, there is a

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weight of opinion. He may well have turned out to be the wrong

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candidate. He brought with him an enormous amount of experience to

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this election, but also an enormous amount of baggage, it is the

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baggage maybe more than the experience that has been judged by

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the voters. Birmingham could be one of the big stories of the night, it

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is where Labour launched their campaign, there is also derby,

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Newcastle, Plymouth, and Southampton. And can they hold on

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to Glasgow? The Government has been beefing up the amount Labour can

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expect to win. They said it should be over 700 seats, Labour say it is

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more likely to be around 300. The trouble for Downing Street is

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that while a little sugar in moderation is a good pick-me-up,

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too much and there is a crushing low. Just as Boris Johnson will

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reset the political narrative, it could be used against David Cameron

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in months and years to come. Boris Johnson would have been elected as

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a saloon-bar Conservative, a true- blue, low-tax, anti-Europe

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politician. David Cameron's critics want him more like Boris Johnson,

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not less. The London candidates are poor

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indicators of their political party's actual standing with the

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public. Ken Livingstone is now less popular than his party, Boris

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Johnson is more. The national political scene, any way, has

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already got significant dates in next week's diary, appearances at

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Leveson by Cameron's former adviser, Andy Coulson. The Tory Party expect

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a sugar high from any Johnson victory, but they see plenty of

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lows too. Tessa Jowell ran Ken Livingstone's

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campaign, Michael Fallon is Deputy Chairman of the Conservative Party,

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and Ed Davey is Energy Secretary and here for the Liberal Democrats

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tonight. What is your sense about Ken Livingstone, has he lost?

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wait until tomorrow. There is not a single ballot paper yet been

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counted. I have been out, obviously today, and for the last weeks and

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months. The film is absolutely right, that we have had a strategy

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which has focused on two things, first of all outer London Boroughs,

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but also mobilising the Labour vote in those areas that -- where the

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turnout is traditionally very low. Was the film right that it was the

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wrong candidate? You have a Labour Party leader, Ed Miliband, who said

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this is a new generation of Labour, and you go to candidate which seems

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to be a turn-off for many people who would otherwise vote Labour?

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The Labour Party chose Ken Livingstone. But they are not I

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infallible, they could have made a mistake? Any of us could be

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mistakes for our party. But you go out, round London, with Ken

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Livingstone, what were people talking about on the streets and

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doorsteps, they were talking about his fares' pledge. What Ken

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Livingstone did, with all his experience of being a big city

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mayor, completely different from Boris Johnson, was to develop four

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pledges to deal with the terrible pressure on the cost of living that

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people are facing right across London.

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If he polls way behind the party in London, then you have made a huge

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mistake, haven't you, because London should be a target you could

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pick? You should be able to win in London and be confident? There are

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two elections in London, one is the mayoral, and Boris Johnson has, by

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the latest poll, a small poll lead, how does he have that? Indeed.

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Because he establishs himself as an independent, not a story. Ken

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Livingstone is the Labour Party candidate, standing on Labour

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platform. But a mayoral contest will always be different. For

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instance, the Greater London Assembly also being elected today.

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Are you fairly confident that Boris Johnson will win? I think it is a

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very close election and it was very close last time. It is a very

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important test. If Labour hadn't won this tomorrow night, then I

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think it will be because they didn't have candidate they could be

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proud of, as we are proud of, having Boris as our candidate. It

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will be because, like in Bradford, they still haven't present add

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credible alternative to an economic policy -- a credible altern --

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presented a credible alternative to an economic policy and credible

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response to the worst financial situation of any European country.

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Boris Johnson is a if he Numan, Stephen Dorrell saying in your own

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party that you are run by two posh boys that don't know the price of

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milk. Boris Johnson fits the posh boy picture, yet he seems to

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connect with people better than David Cameron? He's an attractive

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personality, and he's an attractive personality, he's coming across as

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the more attractive one. What does that do to attract working-class

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voters? There is a difference between this election and the way

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the Government stands at the moment. This is Boris's general election,

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he is campaigning on his record of four years of getting crime down

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and improving the transport system, for the Government as a whole, of

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course, it is a mid-term position. We have only been in two years, we

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are still taking some very tough decisions. He is campaigning on a

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good four-year record. He would make a good Prime Minister and

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leader of your party? He's mayor at the moment. I hope he will be re-

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elected mayor tomorrow for the next four years. And be able to preside

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over the Olympics and showcase our city in this very important year.

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One step at a time. A leader in waiting? It is far too early to

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start speculate beg who the next leader of the Tory Party --

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speculating about who the next leader of the Tory Party will be.

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Let's get him re-elected on the basis of his record. I don't know

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what to say about the Liberal Democrats in this election, there

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are those that think this is the future of your party, that Brian

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Paddick is absolutely nowhere? Brian has been a fantastic

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candidate. He's the only candidate that has a really positive platform.

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He has shown he's fighting crime in London for over 30 years, and

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that's why he wanted today put himself at the head of the London

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police force in terms of the met commissioner. So he's dragged back

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by the party, by the fact it is so terribly unpopular? Let's be clear,

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fight last time has been replicated a bit this time. You have two very

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big characters, Liberal Democrats wouldn't deny. That Ken and Boris,

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known by their first names, as was said earlier, it was always

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difficult, as was last time, for Brian to come through. It is a

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widely held view by independent commentators, that in the mayoral

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debates, Brian won those debates. He has enthused those people.

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will be lucky to come third? think he will do well. I'm not

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suggesting he will win. But he has fought a very positive campaign.

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What is interesting, if you look at the campaigns of Ken and Boris,

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they have been very negative, they have been attacking each other,

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really quite unsavoury campaigns. One of them will win? One of them

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may well, I won't be excited about it. When people look at what Brian

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Paddick is saying, they say at least someone is addressing the

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problems of Londoners. London may be one of the most obvious prizes

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of the night, but across the country there is the possibility of

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a series of political shifts, and in ten cities there have been

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referendums about whether or not to have a mayor.

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We will our guests in a moment. First to Birmingham. How are things

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looking in the West Midlands? looks like a long night of it here.

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A third of the 120 seats on the council here have been contested.

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But Labour are pretty confident that it is not going to take them

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that long to collect the extra four seats they need for an overall

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majority for the first time in eight years. When I tell you that a

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swing from the Conservatives to Labour of.5% or less would be

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sufficient in the -- 2.5% or less would be sufficient in the marginal

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Tory wards, you can see why Labour is so confident. This city has been

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run for the last eight years by a Conservative- Liberal Democrat

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coalition, Ed Miliband would love the message from Birmingham tonight

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to be that the political tide is turning against Tory-Lib Dem

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coalitions everywhere. There is a great deal to play for here, Ed

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Miliband launched his campaign here a few days ago, I wouldn't bet on

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the possibility of him being back soon.

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Now over to Wales. There is one clear question here in

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Wales tonight, that is this, just how well are Labour going to do?

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They think the answer is a very clear, very well indeed. They have

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asked the electorate in Wales to send the vicious UK coalition, as

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they put it, a message. That is precisely what they think voters in

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Wales have done today. A very different story from four years ago.

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They had a devastating night in 2008, the electorate as it was put

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back then, had given Labour a "belting", all other parties gained

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ground. But tonight then, on a decent night, Labour will get most

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of that ground back. On a good they will get it all back, then they

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will keep pushing. They want to take Wrexham from the Liberal

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Democrats. They want to take Swansea from the Liberal Democrats.

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On a great night for Labour in Wales, they will ge get what they

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really, really want, -- get what they really, really want, that is

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to control Cardiff council, and again take that from the Liberal

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Democrats. If that happens, then Wales will deliver Ed Miliband and

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Labour a genuinely good-news story. They will deliver the Liberal

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Democrats a genuine headache. Off to Liverpool now to hear the

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latest. Yes, here the ballot boxes are being counted. When Liverpool

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decides who its first directly elected mayor will be, that will

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become the first such post in the North West of England. No directly

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elected mayors yet, but there will be two, because Salford is counting

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as well. I should tell you that speculation is the Labour council

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leader is going to be swapping his plaque on his door tomorrow,

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because he's the front runner to become the city mayor. I have been

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speaking to one Labour senior source this evening, who said it is

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going very well for them. They think Joe Anderson might win on the

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first ballot. There is 12 candidates standing, but it may not

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go to a second ballot. Elsewhere in the region, the question is how

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badly will the coalition parties do. They certainly didn't do too badly

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last year. What about the Liberal Democrats, they suffered a meltdown

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last year, this time is there a recovery, or are they in something

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of a political death spiral. Thank you very much. More now from

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the political panel, Michael Fallon, Ed Davey and Tessa Jowell. I was

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thinking listening to that, where in the great history of Lib Dem

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mid-term triumphs are we going to see tonight? We have been waiting

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for a mid-term blues for 90 years. It is 90 years since we have been

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able to say, I do actually think on the doorsteps, when we have been

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out there, things are a lot better than last year. I think they will

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be even better next year. I think people are beginning to listen to

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us, as Nick Clegg said a few days ago, in a way that they weren't

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listening last year, that is clear. What has happened between last year

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and this year, people have been seeing on the television the real

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problems in economies across Europe, in Greece, in Spain, in Portugal,

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in Ireland, where there have been massive expenditure cuts. Public

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service workers have taken 6% cuts in Ireland. There rb riots on the

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streets. I think people, therefore, are beginning to understand we had

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to take tough decisions and clear up the mess we interited, they have

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-- inher rites, and they have begun to listen to that message. People

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are saying you are the ones with the burning exits, you can't stay

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in the coalition because you will be more unpopular and you can't go

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out any of the windows? I'm hearing people say that Liberal Democrats

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areic maing a big difference. They are beginning to hear that we have

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made sure that people on lower pay and middle incomes are getting tax

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cuts. They know that wouldn't happen if Liberal Democrats weren't

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in the coalition. Are you looking to 700 seat to pick

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up? It is far too early to predict in that way. We obviously hope to

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make progress. We had a very bad election defeat two years ago.

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There are obvious parts of the country like at the south of

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England where we hope to make progress from our position. In 20

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10 both. So communities are represented by Labour councils, as

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an antedote to this Government that has all the prong priorities, but

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also building towards the next general election. If you are going

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to be cautious and modest about what Labour might do, I wonder if

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Michael Fallon is tempted. A good result for them would be 800 seats?

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That is not our estimate, the London School of Economics, Tony

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Travis, he says Labour ought to be getting about 800 seats and 40% of

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the votes, he said a good result for Labour would be 900 seats. The

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good comparison is four years ago. These were seats we won when Gordon

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Brown was at the height of his unpopularity. We're defending a

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very high base. So if they can't get 900 seats, then really they are

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not there. I Can I say, there is a game going

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on here, which the Conservatives have been doing all day, which is

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ramping up the number of seats. are not ramping down? You wouldn't

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do that? We are absolutely not. We are giving a commentry on our

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experience of work in particular areas of the country. Glasgow,

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London, and the Brad for West -- Bradford West election, if you

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can't start winning these things, Ed Miliband will not be Prime

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Minister. We have a mayoral contest in London, a contest between two

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big personalities, Boris Johnson, who makes Londoners laugh, and Ken

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Livingstone, who will cut their fares and introduce an EMA, it is a

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big choice. But there is also the Greater London Authority. That is

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the other big contest in London. That is the Labour-Tory fight.

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as we discussed earlier, they may do better there, Labour, than in

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the mayoral elections? It is a reasonable test, Bradford, London?

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It is a terrible month for the Conservative Party, what kind of

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relaunch will you have to have? have to look at the results and

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learn from the results. Obviously the last month has not been good.

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We have been taking some very tough decisions, but Ed Davey he referred

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to them. You have also been accused of shambles and incompetence, and

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the posh boys thing, you will have to be more competent? We wholly

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accept, that we can always improve the way we communicate our message

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and focus people on the really big achievements of this Government.

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Parliament has just ended. We have put the first-ever cap on welfare

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spending, we have put the first ever controls on immigration. We

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have reformed education and taken people out of tax. These are the

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real things. What about the people in the party that you talk to, what

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do they want you to do differently? They want us to explain our

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achievements, they want us to explain how we are actually

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tackling the appalling deficit we hin inherited. How we are re--

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inherited, how we are reforming the economy and other important issues.

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We will have more on this, Question -- Vote 2012 starts tonight on BBC

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One. Now, if you are flying through

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Heathrow Airport this bank holiday weekend, or any British airport any

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time soon, you will be aware of the row about queues at Heathrow. Today

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the airport operator, BAA, produced figures that appeared to undermine

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the Immigration Minister's queues, saying they were 90 minutes.

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Officials are expected to go on strike next week in a dispute over

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pensions. We will hear from a minister in a minute. First we have

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some of the details. What are these targets that the passengers

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arriving in Britain are supposed to expect? It is pretty low tech stuff,

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the person that joins the back of the queue is different a card, and

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they clock how long it takes for them to get to the top of the queue

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and get processed. The targets, there is no sanctions for this, if

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they miss the targets it is a rap on the knuckles. The Government

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hopes it achieve that those arriving from the EEA, the European

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Union and other rich countries, they will be processed within 25

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minutes, those from the non-EEA, the rest of the world, European

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Economic Area, 45 minutes. The Immigration Minister Damian Green

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was called to the House of Commons, because there was a shrew of

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protests about the length of queues at Heathrow Airport. He said that

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the target for EEA was indeed being metaphor about 24 minutes, but that

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he did it, he conceded that it was about 90 minutes for non-EEA people.

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The BAA were conducting their own survey, this is the airport

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managers, on the very day the minister was speaking. They said

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the fact it is up to an hour-and-a- half, for some people arriving into

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Terminal 5. 21 out of 23 days were missed targets. 23 days for April

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missing targets. BAA saying that is a conservative estimate. They said

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the queues were so long during some of the terminals, that the EEA

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people and the non-EEA people were amongling together and they

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couldn't standby the statistics. They say they will throw people at

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the problem, there will be people from the back office and they will

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be flying columns going from terminal to terminal dealing with

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the problems. There is 480 staff extra for the Olympic. There is an

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IF crash today, so no processing visa, and a strike by border staff

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next Thursday in the long-running dispute over pensions Earlier I

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spoke to the Immigration Minister, Damian Green.

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This is pretty embarrassing, while you were telling parliament and the

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people of this country that the longest queue was 90 minutes, the

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BAA figures suggest it was three hours? Border Force figures

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measured it at 90 minutes, BAA do their measurements at different

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times. They make it three hours. Either way it is too long. I am

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clear. You accept the figures. They measure more frequently than the

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Border Force? I don't dispute the figures, but on BAA or Border Force,

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the figure is too long. That is why we have taken decisive action this

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week to stop this kind of thing. April was a bad month at Heathrow,

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nobody would deny that, I certainly wouldn't. What we have done from

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the beginning of May is a series of measures, we have introduced 80

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People's Palace available at peak times. We have a central control

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room so we can know immediately which terminal may be building up

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problems. We have mobile teams of people who can be deployed to

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different terminals as problems emerge. From the beginning of next

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month we have a completely new rostering system that will allow us

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to be more flexible. It is aimed at getting the right number of people

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in the right terminal at the right time. On Monday you said some

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people were exaggerating all of this, they weren't exaggerating

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this, it is absolutely terrible, as would you accept. There is a degree

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of complacency about this? I said on Monday it wasn't acceptable. I

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said the queues were too long. There have been some stories proved

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to be not true, but at no stage would anyone deny that queues,

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whether an hour-and-a-half or three hours are too long. We don't want

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that happening at Heathrow. other figure BAA came up with, at

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Terminal 5 they missed their target for non-EU nationals by 23 out of

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30 days in April, that is particularly embarrassing, coming

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up to the Olympics, isn't it? as I say, was bad at Heathrow. That

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is why we have gripped it and taken decisive action. Now a few days

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into May we have a few people available, more controls and so on.

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You mentioned the Olympics, on top of what we have done now, for the

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Olympics we do have many hundreds of volunteers who we have trained

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up, who will be able to work at the border, because we are aware that

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Olympic period, the eyes of the world will be on Britain, and we

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want to give people as good a welcome as possible. We are already,

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for instance, taking the finger prints, the biometrics of thousands

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of the actual competitors and officials who will be coming here.

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They can have their path smoothed through the border. We are working

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very hard to make sure that the Olympics isn't in any way

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overshadowed by this. Would you accept this is not an unskilled job,

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we demand, as a nation, we demand proper border security, we demand

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skilled people, and training up volunteers may help speed the

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queues, but will it continue to make us as safe as people think we

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should be? Yes, that is why we have been doing it for months. For

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months we have had plan to train people up, so they can, they have

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the appropriate level of training for the jobs we will be asking them

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to do at the border. As you say, and one of the things that

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occasionally gets forgotten in this debate, the first priority has to

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be border security, we have to make sure everyone coming through our

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border has a legitimate right to be here and isn't seeking to cause us

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harm. That is the first priority. Along with that we need to meet our

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service standards, and make people's experience of the airport

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as smooth as possible. Given how bad it was in April, which you have

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now conceded, couldn't it be even worse if we are faced with a strike,

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do you think the figures for May will be as terrible as for April?

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Would profoundly hope not. In the first few days it isn't, precisely

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because of the measuress we have taken from the start of May. It is

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not a question of now conceding April is bad, I knew April is bad,

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we have seen the figures. You can't guarantee it will be any better in

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May? We have contingency plans ready for the strike, if it happens,

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if a lot of people do go out on strike, I hope they don't. It is an

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unnecessary strike, they shouldn't go on strike, they should keep

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talking. A lot of unions have reached an agreement on pensions,

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its a completely unnecessary strike, if it does happen to any large

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degree we have people trained up to make sure that the borders work

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effectively. Do we deduce from everything you have said, that was

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an apology for the chaos in April? Of course I regret people have to

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wait too long. All sensible people would, what people are saying what

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have you done about it, what we have done is put more people in at

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peak times, peak times, a new central control room and rosering

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system. We have taken -- rostering system, whenever taken swift and

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immediate action. In the days before his death a year

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ago, Osama Bin Laden was obsessing over how to rebrand and relaunch

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Al-Qaeda. That and his hopes of killing President Obama were among

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the revelations of some of the documents found at Osama Bin

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Laden's heightout in Pakistan, during the raid which killed him.

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It was released today by the American authorities.

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Our diplomatic editor has been taking a look. Early in 2010, Bin

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Laden was facing up to crisis in his global strategy. The ailation

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of most of the nation from the mujahadin...In His own words, too

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many fighters waging holy war in their own way, killing too many

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civilians. Bomb attacks near mosques in Afghanistan and Pakistan

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had? "extreme negative impact on the partisans of the Jihad".

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aim of his struggle? "direct attrition against the American

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enemy, until it is broken and too weak to interfere in the matters of

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the Islamic world". He urged the killing of General Petraeus. "the

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man of the hour. Or President Obama? Ggs the head of the

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infidelity". The killing of President Obama would put Joe Biden

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in charge, and man that Bin Laden said was totally unprepared for the

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post, leading the US into a crisis. The Arab Spring revived the Al-

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Qaeda chief who wrote shortly before his death. "these events are

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the most important for centuries. The The more moderate

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interpretation of Islam he believed was.

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Younger more radical voices would do this, stirred up with cadres

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from Al-Qaeda returning to their home countries.

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If galvanised by big ideas, Bin Laden was also preoccupied with

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tactics, media activity is said to be a main piece of the war. He

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argued that they must mobilise all the resource that is have

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expressive abilities in speech, poetry, visual or audio. On

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security precautions he said cowerers should always meet under

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cover, where satellites or drones couldn't see them. And that the

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American technology and its modern systems can't arrest a man if he

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does not commit skaur error. Osama Bin Laden insisted that suicide

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bombers should not be sent alone because of the psychological

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factors affecting a person in such cases, necessitate the presence of

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a companion to support and bolster him.

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Fascinating stuff, I thought reading through the documents as

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you formed any opinion as to how isolated he was in this compound,

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and how hands on, in charge as a leader of this organisation?

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paradox is both of those things are true. Very hands on, taking a

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detailed interest in the minute usingia of communiques, the

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language used for people giving instructions to people in Yemen and

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Somalia, about tactics, not targeting civilians, the procedures

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for electing leaders. We used to be told by counter terrorism people

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that it was not a sort of organisation with a membership list.

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There was one seesed from 2002. So quite a formal organisation where

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he tried to insist on standards, but because of what the west might

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all operation security, his desire to preserve himself, he couldn't

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communicate in a timely, regular and detailed fashion, that caused a

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breach, if you like, of many of the more wayward individuals and what

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he wanted them to do. We haven't time to go through the strange

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stuff, pick out something that particularly caught your eye?

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is a tale in here that really indicates what a remarkable and

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strange historical phenomenon Al- Qaeda was. And the organisation and

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running it was. How difficult it was. There is a man mentioned in

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0:35:000:35:02

there, Abu Talhar, Bin Laden heard he was going to do a martyr dom

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event, and Bin Laden said if he hasn't done it already, can he do a

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manual about some things because he's good at that. What an

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extraordinary thing. I have traced this person, he was a Moroccan-born

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terrorist, and he did die in an attack on Bagram Air Base around

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the time Bin Laden wrote that, he never got the message to write the

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manual. It is dae sign foult for a structure for the future? That is -

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- it is a design foult for a structure for the future.

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Vladimir Putin's grip on power reminds some of the authoritarian

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Tsars, there is there is comment that he has built a Tsar-like

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palace. A mysterious complex has risen up on the black sea. A former

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member of Vladimir Putin's inner circle these he can prove it was

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built with public money for the private use of the leader.

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A palace, fit for a Tsar. Lavishly constructed by Italian

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architects, at a cost of hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Its gates crowned by an imperial eagle.

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This newly built mansion on Russia's Black Sea Riviera, has all

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the facilities the country's ruler might require, including a landing

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pad with space for three helicopters. But officially, it

0:36:350:36:43

belongs to an obscure private company. But who is it for? Efforts

0:36:430:36:46

by campaigners to breakthrough security and penetrate the palace

0:36:460:36:50

ground have only deepened the mystery that has been tantalising

0:36:500:36:55

Russians. Was it built as a personal retreat for their modern-

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day Tsar, Vladimir Putin, about to start a third term as President. Is

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it yet another example of the corruption many believe is now

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engulfing the country. This is a man who should know. The

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first insider from Putin's own business circle to blow the whistle

0:37:160:37:20

on how he says the Russian leader has benefited personally from his

0:37:200:37:26

position. The Kremlin's denied his allegations. But for several years,

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the man, who now works in the Estonian capital, Tallin, was one

0:37:320:37:37

of those responsible for building palace, until he pulled out in

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disgust, he says, and fled abroad for his own safety. TRANSLATION:

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hadn't worked 15-hours a day for ten years to build a par lays. That

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didn't interest me -- palace, that didn't interest me, I tried to do

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something good for Russia. These are the records of payments,

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overseen by Kolesnikov to an overseas company belonging to

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friends of Putin, that financed the palace. He alleges much of the

0:38:050:38:11

money was diverted from charitable donations. The story begins, he

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says, with Roman Abramovich, now owner of Chelsea Football Club, he

0:38:150:38:20

was one of several tycoons who gave millions of dollars to upgrade

0:38:200:38:25

Russian hospitals. Kolesnikov imported the equipment, also

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involved were two personal friends of Vladimir Putin's, Nikolai

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Shamalov and Dmitri Gorelov. He says they got the equipment at a

0:38:340:38:39

discount, and unknown to the donors, transferred some of the savings

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into offshore companies. At the suggestion of Vladimir Putin

0:38:420:38:46

himself. Much of it was invested on Putin's

0:38:460:38:50

instructions in needy Russian industries. But not all. The

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Kremlin had a pet project of its own.

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TRANSLATION: At the beginning of 2005, they said there was a nice

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piece of land on the Black Sea, where a small house to be built for

0:39:040:39:09

relaxation. But the original scheme, and this is clear in our contract

0:39:090:39:13

with the Department of Presidential affairs, was for just $14 million,

0:39:130:39:20

a small house with a swimming pool, nothing more. But today that little

0:39:200:39:25

retreat, that his company helped finance, covers a whole

0:39:250:39:32

mountainside. An environmental activist, seen here, wanted to

0:39:320:39:37

discover who destroyed protected forest to build huge a huge complex.

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Originally it was thought to be owned by a company owned by Putin's

0:39:410:39:46

friends. The activists, assumed to be workmen, got right up to the

0:39:460:39:50

palace, before being spotted by private security. Then they were

0:39:500:39:54

approached by other guards, with badges more usually seen around the

0:39:540:40:00

Kremlin. TRANSLATION: There were employees of the federal guard

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service, whose job it is to protect the high state official, they were

0:40:050:40:08

even in uniform. They showed us their official IDs, there was no

0:40:080:40:15

sign it was a private house. whose palace is it really?

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Newsnight set off to investigate. Through a snowy landscape, that

0:40:220:40:28

became steadily more impassable. Unlike Putin, we didn't have the

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advantage of a helicopter. The palace, we think, is a further

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30kms down this road, but the snow is getting too deep for us to

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continue. We thought we would be stopped by the secret police, but

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in the end, we have simply been stopped by the Russian winter. This

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man saw the palace many times as it was being built. He says it was his

0:40:520:40:57

job to discuss with Kremlin officials how best to implement

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Putin's wishes. But he and his partner, Putin's friend, Shamalov,

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were beginning to fall out. TRANSLATION: At the end of 200 came

0:41:110:41:14

the financial crisis. Many of our investment projects needed extra

0:41:150:41:19

money. When I asked Putin he promised to provide it. But he

0:41:190:41:22

didn't. Then Shamalov told me the decision was to stop our other

0:41:220:41:25

projects and put all the money into the palace.

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By the end of 2009, Kolesnikov had left Russia.

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He sent ant open letter to the President, accusing Putin, then

0:41:380:41:42

Prime Minister, of corruption. The Kremlin said it had nothing to do

0:41:420:41:47

with the palace. But a journalist on one of Russia's few opposition

0:41:470:41:50

paper, obtained documents to back up Kolesnikov's story. The

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agreement to build the palace on state-owned land. It was very

0:41:540:41:57

important for us to find the documents to prove the land was

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sold to the company, which belonged to Putin's friends. The department

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for presidential affairs, the man there denied about knowing about

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the store, and that he never signed any documents. And here is the

0:42:100:42:14

document with his signature. This showed us that he lied.

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That still doesn't prove the palace was meant for Putin himself. But

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there is circumstantial evidence. TRANSLATION: It's also the building

0:42:270:42:34

of a road direct to the palace, a gas supply, the Government spend

0:42:340:42:39

tens of million of dollars on these. If this was just for Putin's friend

0:42:390:42:42

Shamalov, why would the federal guard service commission and

0:42:420:42:47

monitor the building of the palace. Where would Shamalov need three

0:42:470:42:50

helipads, a private person doesn't need these, but for a President,

0:42:500:42:54

they are essential. The implication is clear, an elaborate scheme,

0:42:540:42:58

planned over many years to give Putin a private palace on public

0:42:580:43:03

money. Without his name appearing on a single document.

0:43:030:43:07

Kolesnikov's claims can't all be proved. There is no clear evidence

0:43:070:43:12

that charity funds were diverted, as for his former partners, Putin's

0:43:120:43:15

friends, Shamalov and Gorelov, their companies say they are not

0:43:150:43:22

available for comment. Meanwhile, the environmental

0:43:220:43:25

campaigners tried, without success, to stroll along the palace beach

0:43:250:43:29

last summer, by then the owners were another private company, less

0:43:290:43:35

closely connected with Putin. But was that just a smoke screen.

0:43:350:43:39

TRANSLATION: I think it is so that this property can't later be

0:43:390:43:42

returned to the Government. Because clearly the man that this place

0:43:420:43:48

really belongs to, feels he may lose power. And then by law this

0:43:480:43:52

residence will go to the next President, if it still belongs to

0:43:520:43:58

the Kremlin. If it is private it can't be touched. Outside the

0:43:580:44:01

activists' house, we saw secret police lurking, they know his

0:44:010:44:08

campaign to protect the environment is becoming increasingly political.

0:44:080:44:11

We have been watching him since he protested against the alleged

0:44:110:44:15

corruption of both local and national leaders, at the holiday

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home of the regional governor on the Black Sea coast. The governor

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is believed by some to have helped Putin choose the site for his

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palace. When Newsnight met him, he denied the Kremlin chief had any

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private rest home at all. Thars I know the President and Prime

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Minister have official residences in Sochi, they were built in

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Stalin's time, they received guests there and spent their summer

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holidays, even then they were working. They are Government

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residences, and they have nothing else, as far as I know.

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Vladimir Putin will soon return to his special office in the Kremlin,

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he's being re-elected with an overwhelming majority. He will be

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governing what the campaigning group, Transparency International,

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says is by far one of the world's most corrupt leading states.

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Levelled with nigh yearia, 38 places below India. -- Nigeria, and

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38 places below India. Now a look at the front papers.

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