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Tonight's scandal upon scandal after the banks the MPs, | :00:12. | :00:17. | |
journalists the media and its moguls, have we lost faith in the | :00:17. | :00:23. | |
country's institutions? Another inquiry's launched the | :00:23. | :00:27. | |
Serious Fraud Office will put their spotlight on Barclays. What trust | :00:27. | :00:36. | |
do people have on the elite. With more to come with Leveson is this | :00:36. | :00:40. | |
country facing a Profuma moment. face a Christian writer, and author | :00:40. | :00:44. | |
on the new book on the establishment to debate the | :00:44. | :00:51. | |
direction of the country's porl compass. Also, 26 years in a Miami | :00:51. | :00:56. | |
crime the evidence suggests he didn't commit. The explosive new | :00:56. | :01:01. | |
details that point to the innocence of Kris Maharaj. I wake up and ask | :01:01. | :01:11. | |
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why am I in here, I committed no Hello good evening. They're serving | :01:13. | :01:19. | |
strawberries and cream at Wimbledon, but if you're looking for | :01:19. | :01:25. | |
consistency, it is getting harder. The Barclays saga has Tyrone the | :01:25. | :01:32. | |
upper everyone lons into a panic. It is the latest series that put | :01:32. | :01:36. | |
the journ journalists, BBC and others in the spotlight. Tonight we | :01:36. | :01:40. | |
ask has something changeed in your oat. Have we become more morally | :01:40. | :01:46. | |
lax? Or was it ever thus. There's flash photography in Paul Mason's | :01:46. | :01:55. | |
report. Banks, busted. Reputations, in flames. He impugned my integrity. | :01:55. | :01:59. | |
Politicians outed and serious expenses scamers, the biggest | :01:59. | :02:05. | |
selling tabloid destroyed by phone hacking and now it is banks again, | :02:05. | :02:09. | |
Barclays, escaped nationalisation, leadership eadvice rateed over the | :02:09. | :02:13. | |
libel scandal. What started four years ago, as a financial crisis | :02:13. | :02:17. | |
has now moved into a crisis of confidence in the whole | :02:17. | :02:23. | |
establishment. They still serve strawberries at Wimbledon and cream. | :02:23. | :02:29. | |
But there's a sour taste everywhere. In the past week, we've seen the | :02:29. | :02:33. | |
British establishment illustrate a panic, the Treasury, the FSA the | :02:34. | :02:38. | |
Bank of England, all struggling to avoid being dragged into the libel | :02:38. | :02:44. | |
scandal. But beneath that, there may be something bigger going on, | :02:44. | :02:49. | |
not the death of deference but political and financial elite | :02:49. | :02:54. | |
losing control of the story. Who is this. If you're under 50, you will | :02:54. | :03:00. | |
struggle to remember. But John Profumo, Tories Defence Minister, | :03:00. | :03:05. | |
gave the name to the last establishment crisis. Profumo slept | :03:05. | :03:10. | |
with a call girl who slept with a Russian spy. But as the case | :03:10. | :03:14. | |
unravelled, the public had a glimpse how the Britain had be run | :03:14. | :03:19. | |
and they didn't like it. Today they're getting more a glimpse, the | :03:19. | :03:24. | |
day after day the Leveson Inquiry is making media mow gulls and | :03:24. | :03:29. | |
ministers squirm. Did you see her every weekend or most weekends in | :03:29. | :03:38. | |
the peshed 2008, 2009. Not every weekend. Most weekends. Ex. | :03:38. | :03:46. | |
News Corp scandal finished the careers of police top man and could | :03:46. | :03:52. | |
go further. Go it go further. A senior police woman reveals this. | :03:53. | :03:57. | |
It has a connected network of officials. I don't mean the | :03:57. | :04:03. | |
officials are in contact with each other, more that, the journalists | :04:03. | :04:10. | |
had a network upon which to call, at various strategic places across | :04:10. | :04:14. | |
public life. Criminal proceedings are now under way, against senior | :04:14. | :04:18. | |
figures in the News Corp empire. But journalists, already low in | :04:18. | :04:22. | |
public esteem are no longer the lowest. Recent research, now puts | :04:22. | :04:28. | |
bankers at the top of the league of the distrusted. 78% of the | :04:28. | :04:32. | |
questioned assume bankers are generally lying. The figure is 77% | :04:32. | :04:37. | |
for politicians, 74% for journalists and 59% for business | :04:37. | :04:40. | |
leaders, so far, of all the beleaguered groups the police | :04:41. | :04:48. | |
remain most trusted. Just 26% assume copse are routinely lying. | :04:48. | :04:54. | |
As the crisis morped from banking to politics to policing, it is | :04:54. | :05:01. | |
coinciding with social break down, like last summer's righting, gangs, | :05:01. | :05:06. | |
criminals purveyors of stolen goods and those prepared to buy them. But | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
the more people look at the top echelons of society the more they | :05:09. | :05:14. | |
see networks of influence, that cross over into rule-breaking and | :05:14. | :05:18. | |
outright crime. Today, the Serious Fraud Office | :05:18. | :05:26. | |
stkw a U-turn deciding to investigate what it calls "lie | :05:27. | :05:32. | |
bother matters", namely Barclays. It is worth remembering what | :05:32. | :05:36. | |
happened last time the SFO investigated a major British | :05:36. | :05:41. | |
institution. When it came to prosecuting, Britain's biggest arms | :05:41. | :05:50. | |
making rer for bribeing allegedly Saudi laws, took second rate, and | :05:51. | :05:55. | |
the rich and powerful got away with it. But Britain, in the meantime | :05:55. | :06:02. | |
has become very intolerant of untram Meled power. Our economics | :06:02. | :06:10. | |
editor. With me to discuss this, Neil Hamilton, the former Tory MP | :06:10. | :06:19. | |
who lost his seat, own Jones, Richard Sharp and Anne scan Atkins | :06:19. | :06:25. | |
is a Christian writer. When we look at this, Owen, scandal | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
of scandal, do you think anything has fundamentally changed? | :06:28. | :06:33. | |
Absolutely. I think our democracy faced a real crisis. These are not | :06:33. | :06:39. | |
a few bad eggs, and shreds diamonds who can be thrown to the media | :06:39. | :06:42. | |
packs. We are seeing the consequences over 0 years or more | :06:42. | :06:47. | |
of a shifpt of power to those at the top, and increasingly, | :06:47. | :06:50. | |
unaccountable elite. Take the masses of the universe like the | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
gentleman opposite me and the role they've had in plunging the world | :06:53. | :06:58. | |
into the biggest economic crisis for a hundred years, that's the | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
consequences of three decades of de-regulation, untram Meled | :07:02. | :07:07. | |
economics, for example the Big Bang under Thatcher. If we're talking | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
about politicians I'm sat nexttor a trail blazeer of politicians | :07:10. | :07:15. | |
disgraced, but what we saw with the Spencer scandal is MPs would | :07:15. | :07:21. | |
rationalise it and say look at comparable professions and look at | :07:21. | :07:26. | |
what they're paid for, and people rooted in their careers, they were | :07:26. | :07:30. | |
a career isolated from those who they represented. Do you agree with | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
the stphrns Not sure the reasons, necessarily, I'm not saying they're | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
also contributory. I agree it goes further than the last two or three | :07:39. | :07:45. | |
years. I think this goes right through the 20th century. A number | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
of reasons, one, think I the obvious one is decline of faith | :07:49. | :07:54. | |
over the last hundred years, which inevitably effects our values. I | :07:54. | :07:59. | |
think back to my father's or grandfather's generation, to cheat | :07:59. | :08:03. | |
on tax was unthinkable for a gentleman. You just wouldn't do | :08:03. | :08:07. | |
that. And that, whole sense of honour and integrity has been | :08:07. | :08:12. | |
watered down, and people don't, one of the things we lost is | :08:12. | :08:15. | |
interesting we referred to the rights, you referred to the rights. | :08:15. | :08:19. | |
One of the things we've lost over the last generation is a sense of | :08:19. | :08:24. | |
shame. Now you might say that's a good thing A young girl who gets | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
pregnant doesn't have the terrible shame that drove some to suicide. | :08:27. | :08:31. | |
That's a good thing. But on the other hand, there's a sense that it | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
doesn't matter if I get caught out because I can reinvent myself. | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
There was a time, if you were found doing something like that, it was | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
so awful you wouldn't do it. Your profession, you just had the finger | :08:43. | :08:49. | |
point at you, do you feel that you have to constantly justify the | :08:49. | :08:53. | |
banking trade now, or can you say, banking has always been about the | :08:53. | :08:58. | |
need to maximise profit, and people never complained that in the past? | :08:58. | :09:03. | |
Well, I'd like to pick what Anne was saying, values are very | :09:03. | :09:08. | |
important. We've seen capitalism, and we've had examples of Cadbury's, | :09:08. | :09:15. | |
or Barclays at its origin, with Quaker roots. Where capitalism can | :09:15. | :09:20. | |
be inco-operateed in a way it integrates and provides a service | :09:20. | :09:26. | |
to the community. Clearly, there have been changes taking place as | :09:26. | :09:31. | |
part of the global growth which led to consequences which effect the | :09:31. | :09:37. | |
whole community and question... It begs a questions about governance, | :09:37. | :09:43. | |
the issue isn't one, I'm not clear what Owen was getting at but it is | :09:43. | :09:49. | |
not the direction, the direction is one of gochnans and values that you | :09:49. | :09:54. | |
have organisations, you have organisations, with approximate | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
degree of transparency and atability and leadership is based | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
around values which goes beyond slogans on the wall or an newly | :10:00. | :10:04. | |
report. It goes to actually the way those companies operate. And many, | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
many companies do, and many people in those companies do operate | :10:08. | :10:13. | |
properly. I'm wondering, it must be 20 years of the controversy or | :10:13. | :10:17. | |
scandal whatever you call it, made you lose your seat. Do you look at | :10:17. | :10:22. | |
this, and laugh at the idea any of this is new or something we're | :10:22. | :10:26. | |
noticing now. Owen has no sense of history or knowledge, because the | :10:26. | :10:30. | |
history of company law, going back to 1720, is about financial | :10:30. | :10:36. | |
scandals and frauds, in the City. And, nobody would have known from | :10:36. | :10:43. | |
what he said, about this being due to the Big Bang and Thatcher, the | :10:43. | :10:45. | |
events involving Barclays occurred under Gordon Brown's leadership, | :10:45. | :10:50. | |
and he was the man who was going to restore the moral compass to | :10:50. | :10:54. | |
British politics after Tony Blair. You've had your say, I'll have mine. | :10:54. | :11:00. | |
We've seen it before in all generations. A hundred ago we had | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
the Marconi scandal. If we've seen it all before, does it mean these | :11:04. | :11:08. | |
things just come up and go away again and everyone forgets them or | :11:08. | :11:16. | |
does it mean we're steadily on a downward path? Every generation has | :11:16. | :11:21. | |
to relearn the mistakes of predecessors. What was different | :11:21. | :11:26. | |
after the experience of the great depression, backlash of laissez | :11:26. | :11:29. | |
faire economics, which had a disastrous similar situation is | :11:29. | :11:33. | |
constraints were put on people at the top. Wealth and power faced | :11:34. | :11:38. | |
constraints which they never had previously had, if it was higher | :11:38. | :11:43. | |
taxes, we have greater stability now. Because of Thatcherism, those | :11:43. | :11:48. | |
constraints were stripped away and those why we end newspaper this | :11:48. | :11:54. | |
mess. Is it right, would you of liked more governance, do you say | :11:54. | :12:04. | |
we were unable to regulate ourselves as bankers? You know, it | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
was queried in terms of historical understanding. If you go back to | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
before Thatcher, we had state enterities which were hardly fit | :12:13. | :12:16. | |
for service. You wouldn't remember the gas or electricity board, the | :12:17. | :12:21. | |
failure for people to get a telephone What does this have to do | :12:22. | :12:25. | |
with the financial sector in the economic crisis. You do have a | :12:25. | :12:30. | |
point, because what we have now is socialism for the rich. Banks | :12:31. | :12:34. | |
bailed out by the taxpayer, we should have no tax yeas for | :12:35. | :12:39. | |
representation. They should be represented on the boards. Anne, | :12:39. | :12:43. | |
one argument is if you shine a light on any industry, close up and | :12:43. | :12:48. | |
look at any industry, things are are acceptable to people who work | :12:48. | :12:52. | |
in that industry, aren't? One of the things that changed is there's | :12:52. | :12:55. | |
more information out there. Prince Charles, just to get personal, | :12:55. | :12:58. | |
thought he could get away with the lifestyle of his grandfather, you | :12:58. | :13:03. | |
can't because of the newspapers, there's a sense in which that is | :13:03. | :13:06. | |
the case, Richard has an interesting point. Going to the | :13:06. | :13:11. | |
Quaker roots of these some of the institutions, a friend of mine has | :13:11. | :13:15. | |
his own investment company he said the difference between the Quakers, | :13:15. | :13:19. | |
the believeing Quakers, some of the cliepts, and he says to them, would | :13:19. | :13:23. | |
you like, you can avoid tax, this way, and they go, no, we want to | :13:23. | :13:28. | |
pay the tax and contribute to society. When you lose that when | :13:28. | :13:33. | |
you're not accountable to God and only your neighbour, if your | :13:33. | :13:37. | |
neighbour doesn't know, it doesn't matter. That is a bizarre argument. | :13:37. | :13:46. | |
When we had far Christian ethics, we had the more yars of kensyism, | :13:46. | :13:51. | |
the civil war which religion played a key role. In what sense did faith | :13:51. | :13:56. | |
constrain people. In the 19th century, which was a century of | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
great faith, after the 18th there was a revival, it was the Vic tore | :14:01. | :14:05. | |
gran, the Dickens, fighting that kind of thing, which they inherit | :14:05. | :14:10. | |
from a century. It was the Victorians who put and an end to | :14:10. | :14:17. | |
child labour, it was the Victorians, who were the great feminists. | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
Are we actually, losing your faith in these institutions, this is the | :14:21. | :14:26. | |
question we started with, or are we accepting these things happen? Just | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
to remind people, after the enormous demonstrations, following | :14:30. | :14:34. | |
the Iraq war, everyone voted Tony Blair back into power. Do you think | :14:35. | :14:39. | |
people have long or short memories. It is a fact in current | :14:39. | :14:41. | |
circumstances, obviously people are less trusting of institutions than | :14:41. | :14:46. | |
they were a few years ago, because of all the scandal What do they | :14:46. | :14:50. | |
trust instead? It is a factor of the human condition, there will be | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
frauds and incompetence in all generations. And nothing is new | :14:53. | :14:58. | |
about any of this. What I find so extraordinary, is that people like | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
Owen are prepared to put faith in regulators and governments to stop | :15:02. | :15:07. | |
these things happen. The Financial Services Authority, knew about all | :15:07. | :15:11. | |
these libel things. And yet they wafted them through. The Gordon | :15:11. | :15:15. | |
Brown with the moral xas was our Prime Minister. Ed balls was the | :15:15. | :15:20. | |
man who designed the system of regulation. You're right. What New | :15:20. | :15:26. | |
Labour did was accept the thaix right consensus which was de- | :15:26. | :15:32. | |
regulation of free market economics. But the fear I have as a critic if | :15:32. | :15:37. | |
you like of the establishment is what we will get resignation, pass | :15:37. | :15:44. | |
sift, people saying they're all in it together. To quote an African | :15:44. | :15:48. | |
American, power concedes nothing without a demand. It takes pressure | :15:48. | :15:54. | |
from below. A lot of what Owen is aiming at is fair. The issue is, | :15:54. | :15:59. | |
what is a better system. That is where he has a problem, because, | :15:59. | :16:03. | |
there isn't a better system, certainly not one which actually | :16:03. | :16:09. | |
has power to politicians, and bureaucrats without accountability. | :16:09. | :16:15. | |
So the problems we've had in terms of how the economy evolved is | :16:15. | :16:20. | |
certainly one where capitalism has its plaus. The issue that you have, | :16:20. | :16:24. | |
is really to construct a better model which really works. Say for | :16:24. | :16:27. | |
example you talked about putting people on the boards. So the | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
question of who should be on the board is who is qualified to do is | :16:30. | :16:35. | |
a better job. Because the people own these companies. The banks:. | :16:35. | :16:40. | |
Just proving, you don't think it would work to have members of the | :16:40. | :16:44. | |
public sitting on boards? Any individuals who are qualified. | :16:44. | :16:52. | |
You're saying yes. We own RBS and some of the banks, and yet... | :16:52. | :16:57. | |
democratic control. OK,. There is corruption and always be a problem. | :16:57. | :17:04. | |
Where I don't agree is we've had eras and periods when you can leave | :17:04. | :17:08. | |
your house unlocked. I don't want a savoury tea receipt, it is a waste | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
of time, but we live in a society, to answer your question, we have | :17:12. | :17:17. | |
lost faith. Is it time for a new order? We've got, inquiries, | :17:17. | :17:22. | |
resignations, arrests all the rest of it. Is something going to change. | :17:22. | :17:27. | |
Why people want the inquiries, particularly the ones who are led | :17:27. | :17:33. | |
by judges who, have no idea of commercial world, is kicking the | :17:33. | :17:39. | |
ball in the long grass. Ed balls wants that, because he was the guru | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
when these things happened. The banks should be allow today go bust, | :17:43. | :17:50. | |
if they lost enough shareholders money. The implicity taxpayer | :17:50. | :17:53. | |
guarantee, create an era of irresponsibility. | :17:53. | :17:58. | |
Look, I don't have a problem, that's why the too big to fail | :17:58. | :18:03. | |
issue is an issue, why Owen understandably speaks for people, | :18:03. | :18:08. | |
because taxpayers feel they've bailed out the banks. Thank you. A | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
British businessman's approaching his 26th year in jail in Florida | :18:11. | :18:16. | |
for a double murder he denies. A major investigation by Newsnight | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
eight years ago, found evidence suggesting that Kris Maharaj was | :18:19. | :18:22. | |
framed. Now this programme brings more material to light which | :18:22. | :18:27. | |
independence kaits the man is innocent. Will he ever win a | :18:27. | :18:37. | |
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retrail? This piece constains trong I went through hell. They're | :18:53. | :19:03. | |
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killing me slowly for 25-plus years. I did nothing wrong. | :19:08. | :19:16. | |
What am I doing here in the name of God? How do you measure time after | :19:16. | :19:22. | |
26 years in a foreign jail? Do you count the days, the decades, your | :19:22. | :19:27. | |
own shift from middle to old age, for Saturdays until you next see | :19:27. | :19:34. | |
your wife, the minutes until lunch. The hours between pills, the lost | :19:34. | :19:44. | |
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appeals. How long does it feel to you, that you've been in prison | :19:50. | :19:56. | |
for? It is 26 years, it seems like 2,000 years to me. Every day is | :19:56. | :20:01. | |
like a year for me. You have to take one day at a time, otherwise | :20:01. | :20:05. | |
you go insane. Now there's more evidence suggesting that it's been | :20:05. | :20:13. | |
26 years in jail, as an innocent man. Is this dynamite information? | :20:13. | :20:23. | |
Of course it was. Of course it was. And Kris Maharaj was the fall guy. | :20:23. | :20:33. | |
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Hi Kris, very good to see you again. Times were good in the '80s, having | :20:38. | :20:43. | |
made a fortune importing fruit, Kris divided their time between | :20:43. | :20:53. | |
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London and Miami. South Florida itself, was teetering. Swamped by | :20:55. | :21:00. | |
cocaine a brutal turf war between Colombians and Cubans were played | :21:00. | :21:10. | |
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out on the streets of Miami. Dickry, Dickry, dock, you joust got busted. | :21:11. | :21:21. | |
Maharajs, from oblivious, life was eye depilic until this happened. | :21:21. | :21:28. | |
double homicide happened. Father and son, der Rick and Duane Moo | :21:28. | :21:34. | |
Young were found dead. That was on October, 16th1986, the next day, | :21:34. | :21:38. | |
Kris Maharaj was arrested. Within a year, he was on Death Row. When | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
they said I was convicted, I faipbtd, I thought it was | :21:42. | :21:45. | |
impossible to get convicted for murder, something you didn't do, so | :21:45. | :21:54. | |
I faipbtd in the court. - fainted. I've been coming to Florida, on and | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
off for taen years, reporting on Kris's case, I can't get my head | :21:58. | :22:02. | |
around why he's never had a re- trial. What looked like a fairly | :22:02. | :22:07. | |
open and shut case at first glance is anything but the more you dig | :22:07. | :22:14. | |
into it. He had a gun in one hand and a pillow, cushion in the other | :22:14. | :22:19. | |
hand. Firstly the prosecutions only eyewitness, Neville Butler said he | :22:19. | :22:23. | |
saw Kris shoot the victims in front of him. Yet he's changed his story | :22:23. | :22:30. | |
and failed a polly graph. There's also the fact that at the very time | :22:30. | :22:37. | |
of the murders, six people testifyed that Kris was 30 miles | :22:37. | :22:45. | |
away in Fort Lauderdale. You saw him twice, between 11 and noon? | :22:45. | :22:51. | |
have no doubt. I haven't any doubt at all. Not one of the six alibi | :22:51. | :22:55. | |
witnesses testified at Kris's trial at which the judge was arrested on | :22:55. | :22:59. | |
day three, and led away in handcuffs, charged with taking a | :22:59. | :23:02. | |
bribe in another case. Then there are the extraordinary questions | :23:02. | :23:08. | |
about a man with a gun, and silenceer. An old colleague of this | :23:08. | :23:12. | |
man, Adam Hussain told me on the day of the murders, a gun and | :23:12. | :23:20. | |
Hussein's desk. What did he say to you? That it would solve the bunch | :23:21. | :23:25. | |
of his problems, he had come into money, a couple of hundred thousand | :23:25. | :23:32. | |
dollars, cocaine and what have you, and that he'd had to eliminate | :23:32. | :23:37. | |
people to do it. When I tracked him down for Newsnight he wasn't keen | :23:38. | :23:42. | |
to talk. People talk to you in association? I don't care. Can you | :23:42. | :23:48. | |
explain to me. I don't locking care, do you understand me. No. Can you | :23:48. | :23:52. | |
explain why:. Speaking to him is more the police have ever done. | :23:52. | :23:57. | |
Doubts over the main prosecution witness, the six alibis not called | :23:57. | :24:01. | |
to court, judge arrested three days into trial, the question of the gun | :24:01. | :24:06. | |
and silenceer, enough to convince, two former UK attorney generals | :24:06. | :24:10. | |
this does look like a miscarriage of justice. Enough to have the | :24:10. | :24:15. | |
death sentence commuted to 50 years, for a 73-year-old. But not enough | :24:15. | :24:25. | |
:24:25. | :24:27. | ||
to win a re-trial to present the new evidence. I wake up 4 and 30am, | :24:28. | :24:37. | |
I have to go for insulin. After I had the insulin, all of us go to | :24:37. | :24:43. | |
the room to eat breakfast, and 46 of us go back to the dorm. Four | :24:43. | :24:50. | |
feet away you have a bunk, and another bunk, and one, two, three, | :24:50. | :24:58. | |
four over the bunk. I don't spend time thinking when I get outside, I | :24:58. | :25:02. | |
just get depressed if you care to put it that way, thinking of the | :25:02. | :25:07. | |
life I have before, and why I'm in here. I think God, why am I in here, | :25:07. | :25:12. | |
I did nothing wrong. Since I saw you and the appeal failed, the | :25:12. | :25:18. | |
defence have digging into your case, and they turned up new leads | :25:18. | :25:24. | |
suggesting that you are innocent and one of the most compelling, is | :25:24. | :25:34. | |
:25:34. | :25:39. | ||
The testimony of Tino Geddes was truly damning. After the murders, | :25:39. | :25:42. | |
he said he was with Kris at the time, he was innocent. | :25:42. | :25:46. | |
And then he fliped before trial, testifying that Kris his actually | :25:46. | :25:51. | |
been schemeing to murder the Moo Youngs. The whole thing was played | :25:51. | :26:01. | |
:26:01. | :26:02. | ||
out. As he had planned it. When I was with him. At the same venue, at | :26:02. | :26:11. | |
the same hotel. What made this star witness flip? More clues are | :26:11. | :26:18. | |
emerging from teeno's home town in King ton. We found out the | :26:18. | :26:28. | |
:26:28. | :26:30. | ||
prosecutors in the Raj Raj case flew over to clear Tino's case he | :26:30. | :26:34. | |
was having, a few bullet. Tino Geddes is now dead. And his lawyer | :26:34. | :26:44. | |
:26:44. | :26:44. | ||
from the time, is now more forthcoming. He was charged with | :26:44. | :26:48. | |
importation of firearms and I think there were, might have been other | :26:48. | :26:53. | |
charges. It transpires, Tino Geddes was facing charges of bringing guns, | :26:53. | :26:57. | |
ammunition and silenceers into Jamaica, and faced a potential life | :26:57. | :27:03. | |
sentence. What sentence did he actually receive? He got a non-cuss | :27:03. | :27:10. | |
toadal sentence. There was a fine. On the charges. But, no | :27:10. | :27:16. | |
imprisonment. He must have been surprised? I was delighted. I was | :27:16. | :27:21. | |
delighted. Do you think the prosecutors coming down on the | :27:21. | :27:24. | |
Maharaj case to testify made the difference? Between him going to | :27:24. | :27:30. | |
jail and not going to jail? Well let us put it this way, I | :27:30. | :27:34. | |
considered at that time that it might have made a difference, and | :27:34. | :27:42. | |
that is why I called him. You've got a safe, any Tino Geddes in | :27:42. | :27:49. | |
here? Nothing of value. It is ornamental. No confessions from | :27:49. | :27:54. | |
Tino. No not at all. Your knowledge of Geddes and you went to his | :27:54. | :28:01. | |
funeral and you were friends with him. Why do you think he flipped | :28:01. | :28:05. | |
from being an alibi for Kris Maharaj to being the prosecution's | :28:06. | :28:12. | |
key witness? That is a question I cannot answer. I cannot penetrate | :28:12. | :28:17. | |
with the content of the human mind. I cannot faith tham the motivations | :28:17. | :28:23. | |
of human may have your. I don't know. I suppose an argument could | :28:23. | :28:28. | |
have been advanced, that there was some form of inducement or pressure. | :28:28. | :28:38. | |
:28:38. | :28:42. | ||
I went to tell Ron Petrillo the E cop at the time that Tino Geddes | :28:42. | :28:49. | |
had escaped life but got a fine. That would definitely explain to me | :28:49. | :28:58. | |
why, for months Tino Geddes was a staunch supporter of Kris Maharaj | :28:58. | :29:06. | |
and the next time I saw him, he was testifying for the state in court. | :29:06. | :29:16. | |
:29:16. | :29:16. | ||
I could not believe what I was hearing. The news about Tino Geddes | :29:16. | :29:21. | |
isn't the only revelation that's come out. There's more stuff about | :29:21. | :29:25. | |
clol beeian who had the room opposite where the murders took | :29:25. | :29:32. | |
place, did you know anything about him at the time? At the time no. | :29:32. | :29:39. | |
Miami detectives arrested Mid-80s, Miami was creaking under clol | :29:39. | :29:45. | |
beeian cocaine. So when it transpired a Colombian rented a | :29:45. | :29:50. | |
room opposite the qilgs, you would expect the police to investigate | :29:50. | :29:56. | |
this fully. They barely questioned him a proper checkup, would have | :29:56. | :30:04. | |
revealed what I showed him. He was suppose today have carried �40 | :30:04. | :30:09. | |
million 348 dollars for deposits for Swiss bank accounts on maf of | :30:09. | :30:18. | |
Colombian drug smuggleers. Opposite the murders. Is this | :30:18. | :30:21. | |
dynamite information? Of course it was. | :30:21. | :30:31. | |
:30:31. | :30:46. | ||
The whole case sincere far as I was And Kris Maharaj was the fall guy. | :30:46. | :30:49. | |
Frustrating stuff for Kris Maharaj's British lawyer who took | :30:49. | :30:55. | |
up the case 17 years ago. We have a big battle ahead of us, my plan, I | :30:55. | :30:59. | |
hope is to develop this evidence and go to the Florida state courts | :30:59. | :31:04. | |
and persuade them. If that doesn't work, we have to go to the American | :31:04. | :31:11. | |
Supreme Court. Every piece of new evidence is bitter sweet for matter | :31:11. | :31:17. | |
Rita Maharaj who stayed by her man all this time. Occasionally I dream | :31:17. | :31:26. | |
about Kris when he was younger, and always in London. The other day, I | :31:26. | :31:35. | |
dreamed that he came home and we were going, and the day he was | :31:35. | :31:39. | |
embraceing me and kissing me for the first time I dreamed that. | :31:39. | :31:45. | |
Short of a legal or diplomatic miracle, that remains a rather | :31:45. | :31:50. | |
distant dream. I want to be out while I'm alive, not when I'm dead. | :31:50. | :32:00. | |
I want to be vindicated, not after I'm dead. Kris Maharaj ending that | :32:00. | :32:06. | |
report by Tim Sam uels. But Tim is up now with a review show. We will | :32:06. | :32:10. | |
be delivering on the verdict on the Spider-Man, a fresh start for the | :32:11. | :32:18. | |
superhero. Michael Palin's novel rg The Truth, and When I'm 65, and a | :32:18. | :32:25. | |
new series set behind a the scenes called Newsnight. Join me in just a | :32:25. | :32:27. | |
minute. I will remain zipd and bring you | :32:27. | :32:34. | |
the front pages of the papers. The FT weekend has Osborne to fight for | :32:34. | :32:36. | |
FT weekend has Osborne to fight for bank bonuses. | :32:36. | :32:41. | |
Murray's milestone, a familiar sight you'll see on most front | :32:41. | :32:51. | |
pages tomorrow. A 74 year wait for a Wimbledon final. Ministers claim | :32:51. | :32:56. | |
of silly kaims on Lord reform of course. The Times has got a big | :32:56. | :33:04. | |
picture of Andy Murray looking heaven-wards. And Daily Telegraph, | :33:04. | :33:09. |