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Good evening, public health experts have decided that the outbreak of | :00:14. | :00:19. | |
measles in Wales won't be contained there. Plans to vaccinate the | :00:19. | :00:23. | |
unprotected are now expected across England. Can sufficient numbers be | :00:23. | :00:27. | |
reached before the illness infects the vulnerable. It is probably of | :00:27. | :00:30. | |
the order of a million to two million children who haven't had | :00:30. | :00:37. | |
two doses of MMR vaccine which what is what you need for almost total | :00:37. | :00:42. | |
protection. How do you persuade people who rejected advice at the | :00:42. | :00:47. | |
time that they need to listen now. We all hoped he knew what he was | :00:47. | :00:49. | |
doing, when so many are saying that George Osborne doesn't and he's | :00:49. | :00:54. | |
making matters worse, should we listen to them? We will speak with | :00:54. | :01:02. | |
the Nobel Prize winner, Joseph Spiglett. Put your eyes up and you | :01:02. | :01:08. | |
have lines, this gets rid of them and prevents. Why shouldn't any Tom | :01:08. | :01:11. | |
Dick or Harriet be able to inject whatever they like into the faces | :01:12. | :01:18. | |
of those who think they need it. We will discuss why cosmetic surgery | :01:18. | :01:22. | |
is so popular and so easy to get. The former MP, Louise Mensch, will | :01:22. | :01:32. | |
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speak to us about why she has had treatment. Maybe the worst won't | :01:34. | :01:38. | |
happen, but the Department of Health is preparing for it. A | :01:38. | :01:42. | |
stockpile of vaccines has been gathered to offer protection | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
against measles and a plan to vaccinate the vulnerable is being | :01:45. | :01:50. | |
prepared against the moment when an outbreak in Swansea spreads. | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
Experts have told Newsnight that the infection is likely to be | :01:53. | :01:57. | |
carried across Britain. In England alone around a million children are | :01:57. | :02:03. | |
thought to be unprotected. The NHS in Scotland said they will contact | :02:03. | :02:08. | |
the vulnerable there. The disgraced doctor who caused the public health | :02:09. | :02:12. | |
scare by encouraging parents not to get their children vaccinates is | :02:12. | :02:15. | |
nowhere to be seen. But the damage is done, and now the challenge is | :02:15. | :02:19. | |
to persuade people to do what they wrongly judged a few years ago to | :02:19. | :02:25. | |
be dangerous for their children's health. In Wales this week | :02:25. | :02:30. | |
secondary schools have started a catch-up campaign for teenagers to | :02:30. | :02:36. | |
help contain the spread of measles. Almost 900 people have been | :02:36. | :02:41. | |
infected in the Swansea outbreak, with 80 needing hospital treatment | :02:41. | :02:46. | |
and one suspected death. In neighbouring Port Talbot teachers | :02:46. | :02:50. | |
and pupils are coming forward. There has been a large outbreak in | :02:50. | :02:54. | |
the nearby area, to be safe I thought I would get it. Figures | :02:54. | :02:57. | |
here in Wales show it is the 10-14 age group that has the highest | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
number of suspected cases of measles, which is why officials are | :03:01. | :03:06. | |
so keen for this group to come forward for immunisation at catch- | :03:06. | :03:10. | |
up clinics like this. Teenagers who didn't have the MMR vak zone when | :03:10. | :03:14. | |
they were younger are proving most at risk. The catch-up campaign is | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
not just to protect them, but vulnerable groups in the community, | :03:18. | :03:25. | |
such as very young babies who have not yet been immunised, people with | :03:25. | :03:31. | |
compromised immune systems, such as cancer patients. Yesterday the | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
Government confirmed it has enough vaccine to cover those not yet | :03:35. | :03:39. | |
protected. I want to reassure you we are taking this extremely | :03:39. | :03:41. | |
seriously inside the Department of Health. We absolutely do want to | :03:41. | :03:45. | |
make sure we do everything we can. If you are talking about a national | :03:45. | :03:49. | |
plan, yes, making sure that we have sufficient numbers of vaccines, | :03:49. | :03:53. | |
making sure that we are talking in a targeted way to communities and | :03:53. | :03:58. | |
to schools, that is something that is absolutely going on. Experts | :03:58. | :04:03. | |
have told Newsnight England and especially London cannot be | :04:03. | :04:08. | |
complacent. The country as a whole is probably in the order of one | :04:08. | :04:13. | |
million to two million children who haven't had two doses of MMR | :04:13. | :04:17. | |
vaccine, which you need for total protection. London is a particular | :04:17. | :04:21. | |
problem, there was lower uptake ten years ago. There will be pockets of | :04:21. | :04:26. | |
very large pockets of susceptible children. The Government is | :04:26. | :04:30. | |
preparing the nation to head off further outbreaks of measles, like | :04:30. | :04:34. | |
the one we are seeing in Swansea. Public Health England will be | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
responsible for making sure that runs smoothly. There is plenty of | :04:37. | :04:42. | |
logistics to sort out, and perhaps their biggest challenge will be to | :04:42. | :04:46. | |
change the mind set of some people about the vaccine itself. | :04:46. | :04:51. | |
Experts trace the rise in cases to a fall in uptake of the MMR vaccine | :04:51. | :04:56. | |
after a paper, published in 1998 in the medical journal the Lancet. | :04:56. | :05:03. | |
This paper by Andrew Wakefield promptedst suggestions of a link | :05:03. | :05:06. | |
between measles vaccine and bowel disease and autism, and concerns | :05:06. | :05:12. | |
about the MMR jab. That has since been discredited. Population | :05:12. | :05:20. | |
studies have found no link them. And the vaccine's benefits outweigh | :05:20. | :05:25. | |
any risk. Before the current outbreak in Swansea vaccine uptake | :05:25. | :05:31. | |
in two-year-olds was good at 95%, in older children there were 70,000 | :05:31. | :05:34. | |
youngsters across Wales who still needed the vaccine. Attention is | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
now turning to areas of England at risk. London is of particular | :05:38. | :05:43. | |
concern. Average uptake of the two doses of MMR across England is at | :05:43. | :05:49. | |
86%. In parts of London it is much lower. Some former Primary Care | :05:49. | :05:55. | |
Trusts, such as Lewisham, Camden, City and Hackney and Southwark were | :05:55. | :06:01. | |
at the 70% mark last year. What I have discovered is it is very hard, | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
it is a challenge to change beliefs. To get away the mind set that the | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
MMR might not be safe. To engage parents again who actually had a | :06:09. | :06:13. | |
different view of it when their children were little. The younger | :06:13. | :06:16. | |
parpbts don't have that fear. -- parents don't have that fee, we can | :06:16. | :06:22. | |
see that, because the uptake is 90% and00% in the Swansea area. They | :06:23. | :06:25. | |
are not worried about it but the older parents are. We have to | :06:25. | :06:30. | |
change the belief and recognise that the MMR is safe. This former | :06:30. | :06:35. | |
Welsh rugby prop forward, now a PE teacher, knows firsthand about the | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
potential impact of measles. When I was younger I had measles in | :06:38. | :06:42. | |
primary school, and I went deaf through it in my right ear. Now | :06:42. | :06:45. | |
working in the school environment it was advised to have the | :06:46. | :06:51. | |
injection just to better be safe than sorry and not having constant | :06:52. | :06:56. | |
contact with the children. Harvey had the single measles | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
vaccination as a toddler, because her mother was concerned after The | :06:59. | :07:03. | |
Awakening paper, now she has changed her mind. When Amy was | :07:03. | :07:08. | |
little we decided to pay for the single measles vaccination because | :07:08. | :07:12. | |
of the scare around autism at the time. We have decided to go for the | :07:12. | :07:16. | |
MMR now because there were some concerns about how the single | :07:16. | :07:19. | |
measles vaccination was kept. So to make sure that she is covered for | :07:19. | :07:27. | |
measles we wanted to have the MMR But the BBC's Week In Week Out has | :07:27. | :07:31. | |
been investigating clinics in Wales and elsewhere selling single | :07:31. | :07:36. | |
measles vaccines, which they claim are safer. Officials are reminding | :07:36. | :07:41. | |
parents that their strong view is the combined MMR vaccine is the | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
safest option. Chloe is here for the second MMR? GPs in Wales are | :07:45. | :07:52. | |
helping with the catch-up too, here in Caerphilly, 40 miles east of | :07:52. | :07:55. | |
Swansea people travel into the city to work. People do nowadays think | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
of measles as one of those childhood viral illnesses that will | :07:59. | :08:06. | |
pass quickly. I think we have to remember that measles is a killer | :08:06. | :08:10. | |
and it is only in recent years with vaccination and MMR that we are | :08:10. | :08:14. | |
avoiding childhood deaths. Do you think it almost take as situation | :08:14. | :08:18. | |
like this to raise people's awareness? I think we almost had to | :08:18. | :08:21. | |
get to where we are at for all of us, for parents, for schools, for | :08:21. | :08:26. | |
health services to kind of think you know there is a wrong here that | :08:26. | :08:30. | |
needs to be addressed. There is a population of children who are | :08:30. | :08:34. | |
moving through our schools and some how, despite all the work, they are | :08:34. | :08:39. | |
still not protected against measles, mumps and rubella. And we have an | :08:39. | :08:44. | |
opportunity now to protect them in school for life. Past measles | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
campaigns have tried to reach out to target groups. Today's challenge | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
is to reach a generation of teenagers and their parents, | :08:52. | :09:00. | |
especially those who may still be harbouring lingering doubts. | :09:00. | :09:07. | |
We have a Trinity of doctors here to discuss some of those issues, Dr | :09:07. | :09:13. | |
Helen Bedford, an expert in childhood immunisation, we have a | :09:13. | :09:19. | |
GP and chair of the council of the Royal College of GPs, and a | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
physician, academic and science writer. How much of a danger is | :09:23. | :09:26. | |
this objectively? I think it is potentially a big danger. There is | :09:26. | :09:31. | |
a large, very large group of susceptible children. These are | :09:31. | :09:35. | |
children who are entering their teens who weren't immunised when | :09:35. | :09:39. | |
toddlers, ten years ago. If it is a serious danger, the key group you | :09:39. | :09:43. | |
have to convince that they should do something are the very people | :09:43. | :09:48. | |
who decided they shouldn't do something when these young people, | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
teenagers, were infants. How do you do that? The first thing, I think, | :09:53. | :09:58. | |
we say it is a great shame isn't it that we nearly eradicated measles | :09:58. | :10:03. | |
at the end of the 90s and here we are on the cusp yet again of an | :10:03. | :10:07. | |
increase in cases. I think the people that didn't have it then, | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
the parents clearly now, hopeful low, will be seeing that there is | :10:10. | :10:17. | |
no evidence at all that MMR is dangerous. MMR is safe and MMR | :10:17. | :10:20. | |
protects your children against measles, mumps and rubella. | :10:20. | :10:25. | |
Hopefully they will be conadvised. The good thing is we know who -- | :10:25. | :10:29. | |
convinced. The good thing is we know who those children are, we | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
have an electronic record and we can do a catch-up programme in | :10:33. | :10:37. | |
Wales. It is not just about persuading the young person but the | :10:37. | :10:42. | |
parents that it is a very, very safe and effective and as hisen | :10:42. | :10:47. | |
said, measles is a nasty De-- Helen has said, measles is a nasty | :10:47. | :10:53. | |
Disease, and if it doesn't kill you great, but it is a nasty Disease | :10:53. | :10:57. | |
and leaves you very unwell. What experience should we draw from | :10:57. | :11:02. | |
this? It is always very difficult to fix these problems after they | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
have happened. With a healthcare they are like toothpaste once they | :11:06. | :11:10. | |
are out it is hard to get the toothpaste back in the tube. We | :11:10. | :11:15. | |
have learned firstly that Public Health and the professions have to | :11:15. | :11:19. | |
be better at challenging misinformation from the media and | :11:19. | :11:23. | |
also mischievous doctors, in the case of Andrew Wakefield and his | :11:23. | :11:27. | |
research. I think to an extend we have learned those lessons, if you | :11:27. | :11:36. | |
go to the NHS website and look at the news which checks the real | :11:37. | :11:41. | |
story behind media reports of medicine. We have science helping | :11:41. | :11:45. | |
to grow the reputation within newsrooms so they feel empowered to | :11:45. | :11:48. | |
shut bad stories down. That doesn't make you popular, because you want | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
to be the person with the exciting story rather than the person who | :11:51. | :11:55. | |
shuts it down. We have to think about how to stop scares going in | :11:55. | :12:00. | |
the future as well as making amends in the current one. Do you think | :12:00. | :12:04. | |
there is a crisis of confidence in doctors, along with many other | :12:04. | :12:09. | |
institutions in society that you are not trusted as much? I think | :12:09. | :12:11. | |
individual parents trust their individual GP. That is evidenced by | :12:11. | :12:18. | |
the fact that 93% of two-year-olds are immunised he against MMR. | :12:18. | :12:21. | |
aren't? Some of those will be simply because they have poor | :12:21. | :12:26. | |
access to services. Some may well be abroad. Ever since I have been a | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
GP there are always people who will never get their children immunised | :12:30. | :12:35. | |
T usually runs at 5%. People do trust their GPs, it is important | :12:35. | :12:38. | |
that we continue with that trust and that we are honest to our | :12:38. | :12:42. | |
patients and talk to them about the risks of not doing something. | :12:42. | :12:46. | |
a degree of scepticism justified though. When you look at the sort | :12:46. | :12:51. | |
of health scares we have lived through in the last 10-15 years, | :12:51. | :12:58. | |
bird flu, Sars. I'm not sure they were health scares, they were | :12:58. | :13:01. | |
dreadful times when you didn't know where it was going to end. We have | :13:02. | :13:05. | |
lived through health scares, we have lived through mumps and | :13:05. | :13:11. | |
electric lightbulbs and everything else. The doctors cried wolf?I | :13:11. | :13:16. | |
think with bird flu and with Sars they certainly didn't cry wolf. We | :13:16. | :13:19. | |
only knew in retrospect that bad things didn't happen. That is | :13:19. | :13:22. | |
because the Department of Health and the Government took action very | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
promptly. It is actually I think unfair to say we cried wolf. I | :13:26. | :13:30. | |
think there are every Friday, in the news there is the healthcare. | :13:30. | :13:34. | |
At the moment we have alcohol in pregnancy, is it or isn't it. All | :13:34. | :13:38. | |
the time we have this. But the authorities, I recall is it | :13:38. | :13:44. | |
something like 15 million doses of bird flu vaccine. It was just a | :13:44. | :13:51. | |
huge reaction to a, what turned out to be a non-event? It is easy to | :13:51. | :13:55. | |
say that in retrospect. I think it is likely we dodged a bullet. I | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
think it is the other way round, the Public Health community has | :13:59. | :14:03. | |
been reluctant to use scare tactics to get people to have their | :14:03. | :14:08. | |
children vaccinated. That is the right way to play it, I think. They | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
are fighting against an anti- vaccination community around since | :14:11. | :14:16. | |
the dawn of time. They are using scare tactics now, saying get the | :14:16. | :14:20. | |
MMR vaccine because measles is a horrible illness? That is quite | :14:20. | :14:24. | |
right, measles is very nasty. Part of the problem is when this scare | :14:24. | :14:29. | |
erupted we had forgotten about measles. We hadn't had measles for | :14:29. | :14:33. | |
decades, it was well controlled. This outbreak in Swansea is a stark | :14:33. | :14:37. | |
reminder of just how serious the disease is. If Claire is right, did | :14:37. | :14:42. | |
you say 5% always? Always.How do you get to the people who have not | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
had the shot? We need to make services accessible so people can | :14:45. | :14:49. | |
get to them. We need to remind parents, because a lot of it is | :14:49. | :14:53. | |
just the parents forget, they need to go and get the vaccine. For | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
parents that are really, truly worried what they need is to have a | :14:57. | :15:03. | |
discussion with a health adviser who can set their concerns and | :15:03. | :15:08. | |
allay their fears. Why doesn't the country make it compulsory to have | :15:08. | :15:11. | |
certain vaccinations? Because we do very well without. Not well enough? | :15:11. | :15:17. | |
We do extremely well, we have very high rates. If we had compulsion | :15:17. | :15:20. | |
ten years ago, the resistant parents would have become more | :15:20. | :15:26. | |
resistant. That wouldn't have been the answer at all. You create | :15:26. | :15:36. | |
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martyrs. You create martyrsThere There have been resistant people | :15:38. | :15:44. | |
since the 1800s. There have always been stupid people about? We are | :15:44. | :15:49. | |
still reaching 80%, to force parents would backfire. We have to | :15:49. | :15:52. | |
use reason and the discussion with people they trust. And we have to | :15:52. | :16:00. | |
use campaigns such as the one we have at the moment. Either it is a | :16:00. | :16:05. | |
serious menace or it is not, if it is, why not make immunisation | :16:05. | :16:08. | |
compulsory? If it is a serious menace the media could reflect on | :16:09. | :16:12. | |
their part they have played on it. The constant campaigns that are | :16:12. | :16:17. | |
being run around MMR, certainly not in the last two years, but before | :16:17. | :16:20. | |
that, maybe it is a question of all of us reflecting on this. | :16:20. | :16:24. | |
Absolutely, there are many of us in the media who are deeply | :16:24. | :16:28. | |
embarrassed about what some newspapers and others did in this | :16:28. | :16:32. | |
particular issue. But that has nothing to do with the question of | :16:32. | :16:36. | |
the law? I don't know whether Helen will point out that it is nothing | :16:36. | :16:40. | |
to do with the law, the fact is we managed to achieve, in some places | :16:40. | :16:45. | |
we still do. 100% immunisation rates. We can continue to do that. | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
We don't need to force people to get their children immunised. | :16:49. | :16:52. | |
happens if this new campaign doesn't work? I think what we have | :16:52. | :16:57. | |
to do is talk to parents who may have lingering doubt, one-to-one, | :16:57. | :17:02. | |
that does work from my own experience and backed by research, | :17:02. | :17:07. | |
that parents who in the past have rejected the vaccine actually do | :17:07. | :17:13. | |
change their mind if they have reassurance from somebody they | :17:13. | :17:17. | |
trust. It is an easier job than ten years a the peak of the scare has | :17:17. | :17:24. | |
passed. People are more ameanable to persuasion. We have to remember | :17:24. | :17:29. | |
that vaccine scares come in cycles. The French have a scare about | :17:29. | :17:31. | |
hepatitis B vaccine causing multiple sclerosis that doesn't | :17:32. | :17:35. | |
leave the borders of France. We have our scare about MMR, in | :17:35. | :17:41. | |
Nigeria there is a scare about polio and infertility. We will have | :17:41. | :17:44. | |
future scares so we need to plan for the future. It is very | :17:44. | :17:52. | |
interesting that they are specific to different cultures? Undoubtedly. | :17:52. | :17:56. | |
They respect cultural boundaries because they are social, cultural | :17:56. | :18:01. | |
and political boundaries. Still to come, why do so many | :18:01. | :18:04. | |
people want cosmetic surgery, we ask Louise Mensch and others about | :18:04. | :18:13. | |
their experiences. If George Osborne hasn't at least | :18:14. | :18:17. | |
poured himself a stiff whiskey tonight and got his hands on decent | :18:17. | :18:22. | |
sleeping pills, then he must know something the rest of us don't know, | :18:22. | :18:24. | |
tomorrow morning will come yet another verdict on how he's | :18:24. | :18:27. | |
managing the economy. If it is anything like the last couple it | :18:27. | :18:31. | |
will be miserable. It might even show we are back in recession again. | :18:31. | :18:37. | |
Not only have we lost the triple-A status George Osborne used to boast | :18:37. | :18:40. | |
about, even his friends in the International Monetary Fund think | :18:40. | :18:48. | |
he should lay off the austerity. At a foodbank in Salisbury today is | :18:48. | :18:53. | |
a milestone, the number reliant on these places has tripled, in a year. | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
They don't just give out food, but advice, and these are becoming | :18:57. | :19:01. | |
places for the working poor. They know what it is like to have a job, | :19:01. | :19:05. | |
get sick and find that sick pay is not enough. | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
Very hard, it is not something that I'm used to. I normally have money | :19:09. | :19:19. | |
in the pocket, at the moment we don't have any. Hopefully, now I'm | :19:19. | :19:23. | |
back at work it is fine. If it wasn't for the foodbank, we | :19:23. | :19:29. | |
wouldn't have eaten over the last couple of weeks. It is just another | :19:29. | :19:32. | |
day on the economic crisis, tomorrow won't be, tomorrow George | :19:32. | :19:39. | |
Osborne finds out if he's escaped a triple-dip recession. Even if he | :19:39. | :19:44. | |
does growth is slow and the deficit falling slower than intended. He | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
has lost the triple-A rating, even now the IMF are telling him to ease | :19:49. | :19:52. | |
up on Austerty. Those who told him austerity wouldn't work are feeling, | :19:52. | :19:57. | |
well, right. Some of the weakness of UK growth is down to the UK | :19:57. | :20:01. | |
Government policy S some of it isn't. The fact that real wages are | :20:01. | :20:04. | |
being squeezed, very high inflation, next to no pay growth, that is a | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
very important factor keeping the UK economy subdued. Over and above | :20:08. | :20:13. | |
that you have the UK Government tightening fiscal policy, trying to | :20:13. | :20:19. | |
get the borrowing totals down. And at the time of a flat economy that | :20:19. | :20:23. | |
tends not to succeed. What you are seeing is borrowing staying at the | :20:23. | :20:28. | |
same levels, as the grip tightens on people's finances they spend | :20:28. | :20:33. | |
less. We are learning to recognise what stagnant economy looks like. | :20:33. | :20:40. | |
In Wiltshire the signs are there, shops closed, old stores prettyfied | :20:40. | :20:46. | |
with council hoardings. Stall holders struggling to stay afloat. | :20:46. | :20:49. | |
You have a few good days and the rest are bad, before it was the odd | :20:49. | :20:57. | |
bad day and lot of good days. It is reversed. People that buy dolls' | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
house furniture are enthusiasts. It is their way of I suppose hiding | :21:01. | :21:06. | |
away from reality. It is a fantasy world. So you know some of them are | :21:06. | :21:12. | |
quite happy to spend money doing that rather than buying essentials. | :21:12. | :21:16. | |
But for policy makers there is no hiding from reality, and where it | :21:16. | :21:21. | |
is starkest is in the banks. One of the most telling clues is this. The | :21:21. | :21:26. | |
graph of bank lending to businesses. Since 2009 it has been negative, | :21:26. | :21:29. | |
falling �4 billion a month back then, and falling in every year the | :21:29. | :21:35. | |
coalition has been in office, the banks withdrew �2.8 billion of | :21:35. | :21:38. | |
lending to businesses in February this year alone. In Salisbury | :21:38. | :21:43. | |
businesses are putting a brave face on it. This event today designed to | :21:43. | :21:49. | |
accentuate the positive, amid a credit drought not experienced in a | :21:49. | :21:54. | |
lifetime. The banks aren't very helpful with small business, I'm | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
afraid. A loans agreed terms take so much time to put in place you | :21:58. | :22:05. | |
need to find other ways of securing finance. I have remortgaged | :22:05. | :22:08. | |
properties et cetera to release cashflow to get me through the | :22:08. | :22:11. | |
difficult times. It would clearly be helpful for all the chambers of | :22:11. | :22:14. | |
commerce and other organisations to have a brief from Government saying | :22:14. | :22:19. | |
this is what we would like you guys to do. This is what's round the | :22:19. | :22:23. | |
corner, it is a danger it is made up on the hoof as we go along. It | :22:23. | :22:27. | |
would be brilliant to know the strategy and we could buy into it. | :22:27. | :22:31. | |
It is trying to do austerity when the banks are busted that the | :22:31. | :22:35. | |
critics warned about. The crisis with regards to the banking system | :22:35. | :22:38. | |
is absolutely profound. And nobody should underestimate the | :22:38. | :22:41. | |
difficulties the Government faces in trying to overcome this problem. | :22:41. | :22:45. | |
Having said that, they have not been as radical as they might have | :22:45. | :22:50. | |
been with regards to tackling the banking problem. If you really | :22:50. | :22:53. | |
think that an essential difficulty here is the broken banking system | :22:53. | :22:57. | |
then I would have imagined they would adopt radical measure. | :22:57. | :23:01. | |
truth is there is a global retreat from austerity going on, in Europe | :23:01. | :23:05. | |
the economy isle cooling faster than expected. The appetite for | :23:05. | :23:10. | |
cuts has diminished there. Even the academic case for austerity took a | :23:10. | :23:15. | |
knock this month when a famous study was debunked. So the pressure | :23:15. | :23:19. | |
on George Osborne is rising. The Chancellor has a plan to flood the | :23:19. | :23:24. | |
housing market with cheaper loans and extend the Funding for Lending | :23:24. | :23:28. | |
Scheme, where the Bank of England underwrites bank lending to | :23:29. | :23:33. | |
businesses. If this plan fails, it is the free food economy that will | :23:33. | :23:38. | |
be forced to grow. At the Salisbury foodbank they have stock for way | :23:38. | :23:42. | |
into the future. Unless something changes they will need it. | :23:42. | :23:48. | |
Joining us now from the Columbia Business School is the Nobel Prize- | :23:48. | :23:54. | |
winning economist is Joseph Stiglett and my guest in the studio. | :23:54. | :23:57. | |
If you were advising George Osborne tomorrow morning, what would you | :23:58. | :24:05. | |
say to him? I would say to him that austerity has typically not worked. | :24:06. | :24:10. | |
The few instances in which austerity has worked or not been a | :24:10. | :24:14. | |
disaster have been instances where the hole in Government spending has | :24:14. | :24:20. | |
been filled by increased exports. But with the global slowdown, with | :24:20. | :24:24. | |
the weaknesses in Europe that will not happen. Clearly it wasn't going | :24:24. | :24:29. | |
to happen in 20009/0/11 after he started the programme. If economic | :24:29. | :24:36. | |
growth slows down, then the hope for benefits in terms of improved | :24:36. | :24:39. | |
fiscal position turns out to be disappointed. That is exactly what | :24:39. | :24:47. | |
we have seen. Let's bring in the studio. This is not a lone voice on | :24:47. | :24:50. | |
this. One is hearing this advice, even from people who used to | :24:50. | :24:53. | |
believe in what George Osborne was doing? Economists wouldn't be | :24:53. | :24:58. | |
economists if we didn't disagree. But we do have an example from | :24:58. | :25:02. | |
Britain where austerity worked. If you remember back in the early | :25:02. | :25:07. | |
1980s when there was a very deep recession. 364 economists called | :25:07. | :25:11. | |
upon the Government to reverse policy, the Government didn't, but | :25:11. | :25:15. | |
the economy recovered and it recovered strongly. Because the | :25:15. | :25:18. | |
essence of any successful economic recovery is not what the Government | :25:18. | :25:23. | |
does, it is what business does. It is about business confidence. It is | :25:23. | :25:31. | |
about psychology. This is what Cains wrote about, he talked about | :25:31. | :25:34. | |
spontaneous optimisim, animal spirits, this should be the prime | :25:34. | :25:38. | |
concern of a Government policy. What we have is spontaneous alarm | :25:38. | :25:43. | |
that the policy isn't working? Mainstream economists in my view | :25:43. | :25:46. | |
pay insufficient attention to psychology. We have to look at | :25:46. | :25:49. | |
economies in Europe where psychology has turned negative. We | :25:49. | :25:59. | |
:25:59. | :26:00. | ||
look at Italy, Spain, Greece and business confidence has collapsed. | :26:00. | :26:03. | |
In fact there is a good reason why it collapsed. There is a widespread | :26:03. | :26:09. | |
understanding of the basic economics. As I said, you can find | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
instances where there were cutbacks in Government spending and the | :26:12. | :26:17. | |
economy didn't go into a tail spin, when and only when the gap is | :26:17. | :26:22. | |
picked up by experts. It is not going to happen now. I think the | :26:22. | :26:26. | |
business community is realistic, it understands what is going on. There | :26:26. | :26:34. | |
is not going to be any spontaneous burst of an animal spirit to get | :26:34. | :26:38. | |
you out of this. How much of a stimulus would the Chancellor of | :26:38. | :26:41. | |
the Exchequer have to apply to the economy and where exactly would he | :26:41. | :26:48. | |
find it? One of the points that you are discussing before I came on and | :26:48. | :26:51. | |
it emphasised, that what is going on right now in the UK and many the | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
other countries in Europe is not only a fiscal austerity but a | :26:55. | :26:58. | |
construction of the financial system with the banking system. It | :26:58. | :27:04. | |
is these two together which are really disastrous. One of the | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
things the Government ought to be doing is taking more active | :27:07. | :27:13. | |
measures to increase lending. It has the position and ability to do | :27:13. | :27:16. | |
that because it is the owner of some of the financial institutions. | :27:16. | :27:21. | |
That is to say it has a very large share in the ownership. Both in the | :27:21. | :27:24. | |
United States and the UK, and many other countries, Governments, even | :27:24. | :27:28. | |
when they were very active and providing money to the banking | :27:28. | :27:33. | |
system have been reluctant to exercise their role as owner. | :27:33. | :27:37. | |
know perfectly well they have been trying to do that for years now, | :27:37. | :27:41. | |
they haven't had much success? think the real risk of altering | :27:41. | :27:46. | |
policy is really on interest rates, how the markets judge this. George | :27:46. | :27:50. | |
Osborne has had bad news, but the good news is the British Government | :27:50. | :27:55. | |
can still borrow cheaply. Despite the fact it has lost its triple-A | :27:55. | :27:59. | |
record. Long-dated bonds issue by the British Government can still be | :27:59. | :28:04. | |
issued at around 2%. If there is a fiscal expansion and the markets | :28:04. | :28:09. | |
lose confidence then interest rates will rise to 4-5%, or up to 8% | :28:09. | :28:13. | |
which we have seen in some of the Mediterranean countries. That would | :28:13. | :28:17. | |
have a devastating impact on business confidence. I think Joe | :28:17. | :28:22. | |
would have to agree, we don't know the correct answer but there are | :28:22. | :28:27. | |
very real risks in abandoning this policy of restraint and austerity. | :28:27. | :28:30. | |
There is a fundamental difference between the Mediterranean countries, | :28:30. | :28:34. | |
where they joined the euro, they have lost control of their monetary | :28:34. | :28:38. | |
system, and the United States and the UK where they still control | :28:38. | :28:43. | |
their monetary system. The fact is in both the United States and the | :28:43. | :28:47. | |
UK monetary policy has been active and successful in keeping interest | :28:47. | :28:53. | |
rates down. Both the short-term and the long-term. They have the | :28:53. | :28:56. | |
ability to intervene and continue to intervene to keep interest rates | :28:56. | :29:04. | |
low. Do you think we worry too much about debt? Yes, I do. I don't | :29:04. | :29:09. | |
think you can completely ignore it, but I certainly think in the United | :29:09. | :29:15. | |
States markets have made it very clear that they are not worried. We | :29:15. | :29:22. | |
have inflation index bonds, we look at the difference between unindexed | :29:22. | :29:26. | |
bonds and indexed bonds. We can see with the market expectation of | :29:26. | :29:29. | |
inflation is very, very low. The United States in real terms is | :29:29. | :29:35. | |
borrowing at a negative rate. ask in the studio thoughts about | :29:35. | :29:39. | |
that? I think it is slightly irresponseable to say we shouldn't | :29:39. | :29:44. | |
worry about debt at all. There should be restrictions on what the | :29:44. | :29:49. | |
Government do. The whole financial crisis is about sectors getting far | :29:49. | :29:54. | |
too indebted. If I can mention America, the American economy has | :29:54. | :29:57. | |
indeed recovered, but there have been contractions in the public | :29:57. | :30:02. | |
sector. Since 2010 half a million public sector jobs have been cut in | :30:02. | :30:07. | |
America and the gap has been filled by the private sector. By response | :30:07. | :30:15. | |
tain us optimism. So it has -- spontaneous optimisim so it has | :30:15. | :30:20. | |
been with fiscal restraint. United States has very serious | :30:20. | :30:23. | |
unemployment and record low participation rate in the labour | :30:23. | :30:28. | |
force. Nobody looking at the American policy today would say we | :30:28. | :30:32. | |
are recovered. Thank you very much indeed. If you have ever aspired to | :30:32. | :30:37. | |
one of those pouting expressionless faces, favoured by reality | :30:37. | :30:40. | |
television performers and increasing numbers of news readers | :30:40. | :30:45. | |
help may be at hand, right now. Cosmetic surgery in Britain is | :30:45. | :30:52. | |
about as tightly regulated as a Millwall fan's temper. Even a news | :30:52. | :30:57. | |
right researcher is able to inject anything into anyone. After | :30:57. | :31:00. | |
suggestions today those in the business are more interested money | :31:00. | :31:03. | |
than medicine the Government proposes to regulate the activity. | :31:03. | :31:08. | |
As the law currently stands you could have a Botox party at your | :31:08. | :31:12. | |
house, invite me around and inject filler into my face, and presumably | :31:12. | :31:17. | |
do a terrible job of it. Whilst that would all be very bizarre, it | :31:17. | :31:20. | |
would be perfectly legal. Its that lack of regulation of the cosmetic | :31:20. | :31:25. | |
industry that has shocked the authors of this report. They are | :31:25. | :31:29. | |
worried that non-surgical pro procedures have become so every-day | :31:29. | :31:34. | |
that people doesn't understand the risks. For this they blame TV shows | :31:34. | :31:43. | |
such as The Only Way Is Essex. are going to a Botox party. What is | :31:43. | :31:48. | |
that? It is injections to paralyse the nerve so you can't frown. | :31:48. | :31:53. | |
would you want that? You don't get lines. So you are paralysed. | :31:53. | :31:58. | |
your eyebrows up, you have two lines, this gets rid of them and | :31:58. | :32:04. | |
prevents. So by now I should have probably four lines. Why, because | :32:04. | :32:11. | |
you have that done you don't have it? No because I can't move my head. | :32:11. | :32:16. | |
The producers of TOWIE say they never seek to glamorise plastic | :32:16. | :32:20. | |
surgery and have highlighted the dangers. Nevertheless there is | :32:20. | :32:22. | |
concern about the impact that celebrity culture could be having | :32:22. | :32:27. | |
on the young. The report quotes a survey carried out last year and in | :32:27. | :32:34. | |
that poll 41% of girls aged 7-10 and 62% of girls aged 11-16 said | :32:34. | :32:37. | |
they felt some pressure to look the way celebrities do. What is clear | :32:37. | :32:44. | |
is even when the economy is tanking this industry is booming. Brits | :32:44. | :32:48. | |
spent �2.3 billion on procedures like Botox and breast implants in | :32:48. | :32:54. | |
2010. In two years time they are expecting to spend �3.6 billion. So, | :32:54. | :32:59. | |
what this report is recommending is that the Government makes sure that | :32:59. | :33:03. | |
anyone carrying out cosmetic procedures is registered, qualified | :33:03. | :33:07. | |
and insured. They want products such as facial fillers to be | :33:07. | :33:10. | |
prescription-only, they want the remit of the parliamentary and | :33:10. | :33:14. | |
health ombudsman to be expanded so it covers private healthcare. Well | :33:14. | :33:18. | |
earlier today, in order to test just how easy it is to get hold of | :33:18. | :33:22. | |
facial fillers, we called several cosmetic surgeries and beauty | :33:22. | :33:25. | |
saloons across the country, all of them said we could make an | :33:26. | :33:29. | |
appointment immediately. For a consultation with a doctor or nurse | :33:29. | :33:33. | |
who could give us the fillers, and for as little as �175. We ask | :33:34. | :33:38. | |
should we seek advice from a GP first, several told us that wasn't | :33:38. | :33:43. | |
necessary. Dr Rosemary Leonard is a GP who sat on the Government | :33:44. | :33:48. | |
commission which produced today's recommendations. Kat Banyard is a | :33:48. | :33:52. | |
feminist author who has campaigned for an end to cosmetic surgery | :33:52. | :33:56. | |
advertising. Alicia Douvall is a former glamour model who spent more | :33:56. | :34:02. | |
than a million pound she said on at least 500 plastic surgery | :34:02. | :34:06. | |
procedures before realiseing she was addicted to the business and | :34:06. | :34:10. | |
taking herself off to rehab. And Louise Mensch is a former | :34:10. | :34:14. | |
Conservative MP who has also had plastic surgery and joining us | :34:14. | :34:17. | |
tonight from New York. Louise Mensch, what did you have done? | :34:17. | :34:26. | |
had had a little tighten in my face, I remember being asked about it by | :34:26. | :34:32. | |
the Guardian, and asking me had I had it because I had a scar under | :34:32. | :34:37. | |
my chin. I refused to answer it because people are always trying to | :34:38. | :34:45. | |
trivialise women's -- women in politics, but as I'm no longer a | :34:45. | :34:52. | |
politician and I want to support this report. Why did you do it? | :34:52. | :34:57. | |
was fully aware of the risks and reLuiz Eduardos and I knew what I | :34:57. | :35:02. | |
was doing. And when they asked had I had a face lift they ran pictures | :35:02. | :35:05. | |
pre-procedure and they couldn't tell the difference. It can be an | :35:05. | :35:09. | |
informed choice for many women. There are certainly great dangers, | :35:09. | :35:13. | |
I don't believe anybody who isn't a doctor or at the very least a nurse, | :35:13. | :35:17. | |
I would prefer a doctor, be able to carry out any of these procedure, | :35:17. | :35:21. | |
even the surgeons should have train anything that specific area. | :35:21. | :35:25. | |
still don't understand why you had it done? As I have said for | :35:25. | :35:29. | |
maintenance. I'm, I like the way I look, I would prefer to keep it | :35:29. | :35:34. | |
that way. I had a very, very good surgeon, the difference is subtle | :35:34. | :35:39. | |
if you get someone who knows what they are doing. I'm relatively | :35:39. | :35:44. | |
happy, I'm very happy with the results. Alicia Douvall you had an | :35:44. | :35:49. | |
awful lot of operations of one kind or another, why did you have them? | :35:49. | :35:57. | |
I started off when I was 17 when I had my first procedure. I was very | :35:57. | :36:01. | |
niave and believed that cosmetic surgery was the answer to changing | :36:01. | :36:06. | |
from an average-looking girl to this Barbie-looking appearance. I | :36:06. | :36:12. | |
didn't understand the limitations that surgery has. I wasn't informed, | :36:12. | :36:16. | |
I wasn't an intelligent lady that was able to do my research and | :36:16. | :36:21. | |
everything else. I unfortunately was in the hand of special offers | :36:21. | :36:29. | |
and the "cowboy" surgeries out there. Was price a factor in your | :36:29. | :36:33. | |
decision? Yes, after my first operation I had a special offer if | :36:33. | :36:38. | |
you booked more than one you got the second one cheaper. | :36:38. | :36:44. | |
Subsequently I had to have more surgery after that to correct it. | :36:44. | :36:49. | |
Do you, as a feminist are you troubled that so many women want | :36:49. | :36:54. | |
this sort of procedure? troubled that the cosmetic surgery | :36:54. | :36:58. | |
industry has been able to flourish unrestricted and unaccountable in | :36:58. | :37:03. | |
the way it has. The reasons we are talking about this is women and | :37:03. | :37:08. | |
girls from a very young age are subject to a highly sexist culture | :37:08. | :37:13. | |
that tells them their value lies in what they look like, not what they. | :37:13. | :37:18. | |
Do the cosmetic industry spent the last few decades spending millions | :37:18. | :37:22. | |
of pounds marketing itself as the solution to this. You don't think | :37:22. | :37:25. | |
that a successful, confident woman like Mensch MEPs, member of | :37:25. | :37:28. | |
parliament, is really that influenced by sexist assumptions in | :37:28. | :37:32. | |
society do you? There are various differences obviously between no | :37:32. | :37:36. | |
individual woman will have exactly the same experience and same | :37:36. | :37:41. | |
motivations. But we know that by the age of 10, a third of girls say | :37:41. | :37:45. | |
that the biggest worry is their body. And it is therefore no | :37:45. | :37:49. | |
surprise that the same proportion of girls would consider havings | :37:49. | :37:53. | |
could mtic surgery. This is an industry -- cosmetic surgery. This | :37:53. | :37:57. | |
is an industry that has spent millions telling people, by | :37:57. | :38:02. | |
spaceing adverts on public transport, in magazine -- placing | :38:02. | :38:06. | |
adverts in public transport and magazines that it is the solution | :38:06. | :38:11. | |
by going under the knife. Not changing the culture and tell women | :38:11. | :38:18. | |
they have to aspire to ideals. you feel under pressure? Not at all. | :38:18. | :38:22. | |
That isn't to say that I don't entirely agree with the thrust of | :38:22. | :38:25. | |
the report. I can't see you in the studio, it is disheartening to hear | :38:25. | :38:31. | |
the young lady, the model to say at 17 she felt pressurised to have | :38:31. | :38:35. | |
procedures again and again and again. We need this tightening up. | :38:35. | :38:39. | |
A respectable surgery will not offer a procedure to a woman who | :38:39. | :38:43. | |
has body image problems and has done it millions of times and | :38:44. | :38:47. | |
appears to be addicted. That is why I'm glad we have someone in the | :38:47. | :38:51. | |
health office who is a doctor and we need to look at this. There have | :38:51. | :38:55. | |
been problems, but also it had been a sovereign decision that a woman | :38:55. | :38:58. | |
makes about her own appearance. If informed it can be a good choice. | :38:58. | :39:02. | |
Here you are, let's be realistic about it, you are a highly | :39:03. | :39:06. | |
successful, highly intelligent woman who achieved power? Keep | :39:06. | :39:12. | |
going! And yet you choose to do this to your body. Are you worried | :39:12. | :39:16. | |
about what example you will set? Again the question arose because a | :39:16. | :39:21. | |
reporter at an ostensibly left-wing and feminist pap, in the middle of | :39:21. | :39:27. | |
a political profile depieded to ask me had I had something done to my | :39:27. | :39:30. | |
face which is entirely my own decision and not something I was | :39:30. | :39:33. | |
writing about. I think the publicity was thrust upon me, it | :39:33. | :39:37. | |
wasn't something I was forcing on anybody. The desire to look good is | :39:37. | :39:43. | |
not in of itself negative. But look good to whom? It doesn't all come | :39:43. | :39:47. | |
from plastic surgery. I find it interesting you focus so heavily on | :39:47. | :39:51. | |
the individual woman's motivations for getting cosmetic surgery, let's | :39:51. | :39:55. | |
be clear the lived experience from girls at an early age is their body | :39:55. | :39:59. | |
is held up as the post important thing about them. The ideals thrust | :39:59. | :40:04. | |
upon them through popular culture, through advertising are huge. And | :40:04. | :40:09. | |
body hatred among women is rampant. It is no surprise that so many | :40:09. | :40:12. | |
women want cosmetic surgery, the reason the review is important is | :40:12. | :40:18. | |
because it puts the spotlight on the industry for once, not on the | :40:18. | :40:20. | |
individual's choices. Were you shocked by what you found? Yes, the | :40:20. | :40:25. | |
pen you hold in your hand has the same controls as a cosmetic filler. | :40:25. | :40:29. | |
Interestingly in America where they are ahead of the game on us they | :40:29. | :40:36. | |
have made fillers prescription-only medicines. There are only a few | :40:36. | :40:40. | |
teens, 14, 15 available. In this country we have 190 available | :40:40. | :40:44. | |
because they are not subject to any more controls than floor cleaner. | :40:44. | :40:48. | |
filler is injected into you? It is injected into your face to plump it | :40:48. | :40:53. | |
up. When people say what's in them, the answer is at the moment is an | :40:54. | :40:57. | |
awful lot of things could be in them. Did you know what was being | :40:57. | :41:02. | |
put into your face? No not at all. I have countless amounts of filler. | :41:02. | :41:08. | |
I have had it also removed. I have got scaring from trying to get it | :41:08. | :41:12. | |
out. It is very difficult to remove it once it is in. They have told me | :41:13. | :41:20. | |
it is not permanent. How can you let somebody who is not medically | :41:20. | :41:23. | |
qualified stick something into your body? I trust a doctor and the | :41:23. | :41:27. | |
surgeon in front of me. He's telling me it will be dissolved | :41:27. | :41:31. | |
within six month it is great, it will be great for my face. This is | :41:31. | :41:34. | |
the story we have heard time and time again, the British public | :41:34. | :41:38. | |
assumed the industry is controlled. They assumed the practitioners know | :41:38. | :41:43. | |
what they are doing. Did you discover why it isn't controlled? | :41:43. | :41:46. | |
It is not my job to point the finger. It isn't helpful now, we | :41:46. | :41:50. | |
need to control it for now. It has to be said, in fairness to the | :41:50. | :41:53. | |
Government this is an industry that has exploded over the last few | :41:53. | :41:58. | |
years. It has gone up exponentially, probably ten years ago there wasn't | :41:58. | :42:01. | |
that much to control, there certainly is now. We need to get on | :42:01. | :42:06. | |
with it as quickly as possible. have to say I don't accept that | :42:06. | :42:10. | |
there simply hasn't been efforts to, or desire to control it, there have | :42:10. | :42:15. | |
been repeated calls for a clampdown on this exploitive industry which | :42:15. | :42:18. | |
have been batted away with assurances that the industry can | :42:18. | :42:20. | |
govern itself. It is brilliant that these recommendations have been | :42:20. | :42:25. | |
made. I will set up an open goal for you, do you think it was | :42:25. | :42:29. | |
regulated if it was a process that was seen applying mainly to men? | :42:30. | :42:33. | |
Interesting question, it is difficult to draw an exact on | :42:33. | :42:37. | |
collision from this, but it is an important point. Issues that mainly | :42:37. | :42:40. | |
affect women, it is no surprise that when we get more women in | :42:40. | :42:45. | |
parliament those kinds of issues are addressed. Issues such as body | :42:45. | :42:50. | |
image is left off the political agenda and it affects so many | :42:50. | :42:54. | |
women's lives. We are talking about this as if it is women only, | :42:54. | :42:57. | |
increase league there are more and more men who are going to the | :42:57. | :43:04. | |
cosmetic industry now. It is not just a feminine issue. It is across | :43:04. | :43:07. | |
the board. Louise Mensch surprising that you and fellow female MPs | :43:07. | :43:11. | |
didn't do anything about it? Well I think that you know when I was in | :43:11. | :43:16. | |
parliament the issue of the breast implants scandal came up, I'm very | :43:16. | :43:18. | |
glad the government is doing something about it now. My job | :43:18. | :43:22. | |
really was on the Culture, Media and Sport Commitee, perhaps if I | :43:22. | :43:26. | |
had been on the health committee I would have asked people to look at | :43:26. | :43:30. | |
it. It is great the Government is doing something about it. We can't | :43:30. | :43:33. | |
totally level the blame at the plastic surgery, when we talk about | :43:33. | :43:38. | |
body image, let's talk about Photoshop in magazines. Women are | :43:38. | :43:41. | |
held to an impossible ideal because they are constantly shown aim | :43:41. | :43:45. | |
imagines of women's bodies that are impossible to achieve, day in day | :43:45. | :43:49. | |
out by the fashion and beauty industry. I think that Photoshop, | :43:49. | :43:55. | |
which some women MPs have been campaigning against, and air | :43:55. | :43:58. | |
brushed pictures contribute to the problem that many young women have. | :43:58. | :44:02. | |
We looked at advertising very, very careful on the committee. One of | :44:02. | :44:07. | |
the things that was alarming was some of the adverts of before and | :44:07. | :44:11. | |
after, they are clearly not the same person. This is for cosmetic | :44:11. | :44:15. | |
surgery? Before and after is clearly not the same person. The | :44:15. | :44:17. | |
Advertising Standards Authority have to tighten up controls of this. | :44:17. | :44:22. | |
We would like to see a ban on misleading adverts entirely. This | :44:22. | :44:26. | |
is where the review falls down, while it is brilliant to see it, | :44:26. | :44:29. | |
there is a significant inconsistency in the report which | :44:29. | :44:34. | |
could mean that it falls far short of making any kind of inroads, we | :44:34. | :44:39. | |
could end up if these recommendations are implemented | :44:39. | :44:43. | |
where non-invasive procedures, the advertising of them is more heavily | :44:43. | :44:48. | |
regulated than invasive procedures. Because the recommendation is that | :44:48. | :44:53. | |
non-invasive ones, such as injections that they are treated as | :44:53. | :44:56. | |
prescription-only medicine which means they can't be advertised. | :44:56. | :45:01. | |
have been portraying women as victims of a particular sort of | :45:01. | :45:04. | |
representation. There is an argument that says we have become a | :45:04. | :45:10. | |
more narcissistic society? All of us? OK, but in the case of, that's | :45:10. | :45:14. | |
an abstract debate that you can have. Let's be clear what we are | :45:14. | :45:18. | |
talking about, we are talking about an industry that makes millions | :45:18. | :45:22. | |
every year and at the heart of that has been a relentless, aggressive, | :45:22. | :45:27. | |
marketing campaign which actively works to persuade women to undergo | :45:27. | :45:32. | |
medically unnecessary invasive surgery. I would like to see the | :45:32. | :45:36. | |
Government take this report and make sure it is consistent so that | :45:36. | :45:40. | |
we end the advertising of invasive cosmetic surgery. We certainly want | :45:40. | :45:44. | |
to put far more controls, particularly on the consent | :45:44. | :45:47. | |
procedure. We have to stop people going for cosmetic surgery and | :45:47. | :45:50. | |
having it sold to them like it is double glazing. That really has to | :45:50. | :45:55. | |
stop. One of the things we have recommended is a two-stage consent | :45:55. | :46:00. | |
process with a cooling off prd. And your consent -- period. And the | :46:00. | :46:04. | |
consent is done bit surgeon doing your surgery. We can't have a | :46:04. | :46:08. | |
situation where a person going to a clinic and seen by a sales person, | :46:08. | :46:11. | |
told they could have a proceed du, then the doctor flies in, does the | :46:11. | :46:17. | |
operation and flies out again. That has to stop. The same doctor after | :46:17. | :46:21. | |
the procedure. Very often I have had cosmetic surgery and not seen | :46:21. | :46:24. | |
the same doctor afterLuiz Eduardo. What do you hope will come out of | :46:24. | :46:27. | |
it? I hope they tighten the regulations and you have a | :46:27. | :46:30. | |
consultation and you have a certain amount of cooling off period of | :46:30. | :46:35. | |
time. I do hope that the advertising cools down. It is | :46:35. | :46:39. | |
ridiculous to say that we should stop retouching magazines and it is | :46:40. | :46:42. | |
all the problem is media and everything else. That's ridiculous, | :46:42. | :46:47. | |
what are you going to do, put ugly people on TV. Where did you get an | :46:47. | :46:51. | |
idea of what you should look like? I think that's, there is loads of | :46:51. | :46:54. | |
different reasons isn't there. There is upbringing, there is | :46:54. | :46:57. | |
schools, you can see a beautiful girl in the Post Office and aspire | :46:58. | :47:04. | |
to be her, it is ridiculous to blame it on the media. The thing is | :47:04. | :47:08. | |
let's put the rules in place, let's tighten it up and that would | :47:08. | :47:13. | |
certainly help. Make it safe. you all very much. That's all we | :47:13. | :47:23. | |
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Hello, on Thursday a typical spring day across the northern part of the | :47:31. | :47:36. | |
UK. With lots of sunshine and some showers, April showers, heavy one, | :47:36. | :47:40. | |
with hail and thunder in places too. Let's look at the scene across the | :47:40. | :47:43. | |
north. As we go through Thursday afternoon, here it is, some | :47:43. | :47:48. | |
sunshine here, one or two heavy showers. Across Scotland it will be | :47:48. | :47:53. | |
noticable if you catch them. Temperatures 10 in Aberdeen, nine | :47:53. | :47:56. | |
in Edinburgh. An increasing breeze as well. Northern England, | :47:56. | :48:01. | |
different story here, nor layered cloud, bits and pieces of rain, the | :48:01. | :48:05. | |
real warmth will be across East Anglia and the south-east. This is | :48:05. | :48:12. | |
the last day with recent temperatures across the south | :48:12. | :48:18. | |
eet,up to 23 degrees in some places. We get into Wales, lots of cloud | :48:18. | :48:23. | |
and a bit of rain too. Western fringes of Wales will get a little | :48:23. | :48:26. | |
brightness towards the second half of the afternoon. This is the | :48:26. | :48:30. | |
outlooks a we head towards the end of the week. Temperatures in the | :48:30. | :48:34. | |
north with single figures with hail and thunder in places. A dip in the | :48:34. | :48:38. | |
temperature for southern part of the UK. London will feel a big | :48:38. | :48:43. |