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pagentry aplenty, but are the couple at the heart of the | :00:18. | :00:21. | |
coalition Government arguing over the kids? | :00:21. | :00:23. | |
This programme has learned that This programme has learned that | :00:23. | :00:27. | |
Nick Clegg may block reforms to childcare ratio, one of the | :00:27. | :00:29. | |
flagship policies of the Queen's Speech. | :00:29. | :00:32. | |
It was meant to be a done deal, but in the last hour the Deputy Prime | :00:32. | :00:36. | |
Minister's office has confirmed to this programme that he may not sign | :00:36. | :00:38. | |
it off. Also tonight as Manchester United | :00:38. | :00:44. | |
says goodbye to the very best, we asks what makes a manager great. | :00:44. | :00:48. | |
Most people at the top of business and sport are not the easiest | :00:48. | :00:53. | |
people to get on with, because they are like that and used to battering | :00:53. | :00:58. | |
doors out. We speak to Mark Hughes, his friends and the think-tank. | :00:59. | :01:03. | |
We are on Pakistan's campaign trail. What you are seeing is a revolution. | :01:03. | :01:07. | |
I am this is beyond, if you see the fashion, this is not normal | :01:08. | :01:17. | |
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politics. This is an uprising from the grassroots. | :01:18. | :01:23. | |
Hello, good evening. To the public looking on it was a fairly | :01:23. | :01:27. | |
faultless parade of unity, but tonight this programme has learned | :01:27. | :01:29. | |
that the Deputy Prime Minister is he at odds with the Prime Minister | :01:29. | :01:34. | |
over one of the key policies laid out in the queens speech. Newsnight | :01:34. | :01:37. | |
has learned that conversation reforms for affordable child | :01:38. | :01:41. | |
cautious particularly the ratio of children to child minders has not | :01:41. | :01:43. | |
been signed off by Nick Clegg. On the very day the measures were laid | :01:44. | :01:47. | |
out by the Monarch in parliament, the Lib Dem leader has made it | :01:47. | :01:52. | |
clear he remains to be persuaded this is the right thing to. Do Our | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
political editor joins us. What have you learned? In the last | :01:55. | :01:58. | |
few days Nick Clegg has told colleagues across Government that | :01:58. | :02:01. | |
the Liberal Democrats won't, afterall, be supporting this ratios | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
measure. It sounds incredibly technical, but I imagine quite a | :02:04. | :02:07. | |
lot of viewers have heard about it. It is this move to get young | :02:07. | :02:13. | |
children under the ages of one, two, three, being looked after across | :02:13. | :02:17. | |
greater ratio. So one person would look after four, where as they had | :02:17. | :02:20. | |
been looking after three. The reason why this is important is | :02:20. | :02:24. | |
firstly what it means about how the coalition does its business, and | :02:24. | :02:28. | |
secondly about the specifics of childcare which, remember, are so | :02:28. | :02:31. | |
central to this Government, it isn't a niche issue, it has become | :02:31. | :02:33. | |
about getting more women in work, it has become about living | :02:33. | :02:39. | |
standards and the cost of living. Process wise this was a policy that | :02:39. | :02:43. | |
was finished, it was done, it is due to come in September. It was | :02:43. | :02:46. | |
not open for revisiting. That's what Nick Clegg has done by saying | :02:46. | :02:50. | |
do you know what, I can't actually deal with this any more. In terms | :02:50. | :02:53. | |
of what that means about other coalition policies, well some of my | :02:53. | :02:58. | |
sources are saying this evening what's fair game for them, as | :02:58. | :03:02. | |
Conservatives, to go around and start picking. In terms of | :03:02. | :03:05. | |
childcare Newsnight has been to France with the minister that is | :03:05. | :03:10. | |
responsible for this, we have seen them really try to grapple with | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
whether this policy work. She truly believes that if you don't do this | :03:13. | :03:16. | |
policy you don't bring down the cost of childcare. That is what | :03:16. | :03:21. | |
they are trying to do. My sources say that if they don't do this the | :03:21. | :03:25. | |
whole costing of the whole policy falls apart. Remember this is a key | :03:25. | :03:27. | |
offer of both coalition partner, not just the Liberal Democrats or | :03:27. | :03:37. | |
the Tories on their own. Year after year, the Queen has | :03:37. | :03:41. | |
arrived for the State Opening of Parliament. But this morning | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
something was different. Prince Charles came too for only the | :03:44. | :03:49. | |
second time ever. So did his wife, the Duchess of Cornwall, for her | :03:49. | :03:53. | |
first time. Today it gave us a sense of transitions to come. The | :03:53. | :03:57. | |
contents of the Queen's Speech was also about the future. The collapse | :03:57. | :04:02. | |
of the coalition's childcare policy, just bun premonition of some fights | :04:02. | :04:11. | |
ahead. The 15 bills the Queen came to deliver today had few onate | :04:11. | :04:20. | |
embellishments, but performed strict functions, there were many | :04:20. | :04:28. | |
issues about immigration. And action to care for people in their | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
elderly years Her Majesty could have been reading out two party | :04:31. | :04:34. | |
manifestos. My ministers will continue to prioritise measures | :04:34. | :04:38. | |
that reduce the deficit, ensuring interest rates are kept low for | :04:38. | :04:43. | |
homeowners and businesses. Prince allowed himself the odd tap | :04:43. | :04:47. | |
of the foot and the Queen moved at a perky pace too, her speech all | :04:47. | :04:52. | |
wrapped up within eight minutes. For the kfrs it had a very serious | :04:52. | :04:55. | |
purpose -- the Conservatives, it had a very serious purpose, to | :04:55. | :04:59. | |
define their message or be smothered by Ukip. As MPs filed | :04:59. | :05:05. | |
back from the Lords to the Commons, they might have reflected this | :05:05. | :05:08. | |
Queen's Speech marked the transition from one parliament to | :05:09. | :05:13. | |
the other, the beginning to the end. This year's is probably the last | :05:13. | :05:15. | |
significant programme of legislation before the next general | :05:15. | :05:18. | |
election. There will be another one, it is just that with 12 months to | :05:18. | :05:21. | |
go before the country goes to the polls it is unlikely that the | :05:21. | :05:25. | |
coalition will be able to agree on enough to make the next Queen's | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
Speech a chunky one. One MP spoke for many Conservatives when he told | :05:29. | :05:34. | |
us that he would have liked to have seen an EU referendum bill today. | :05:34. | :05:42. | |
But he's confident the future will be different. I think this is the | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
last rose garden Queen's Speech, moving to the jungle next year, it | :05:46. | :05:51. | |
will be no holds barred next year. We have to put forward, as a | :05:51. | :05:54. | |
Conservative Party a very attractive compelling narrative by | :05:54. | :05:58. | |
way of the Queen's Speech, which allows the voters to distinguish | :05:58. | :06:01. | |
between us and the Liberal Democrats. I think we will see that. | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
The people around David Cameron are very mindful that must be the | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
number one priority, to have an authentic Conservative message next | :06:09. | :06:16. | |
year. One of his Lib Dem partners was more sanguine, Tim Farron | :06:16. | :06:19. | |
thinks disagreements are manageable. We disagree on issues of fairness. | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
You will see that long before next year's Queen's Speech, which will | :06:23. | :06:26. | |
be on issues of taxation. I'm sure George Osborne will want more tax | :06:26. | :06:30. | |
cuts for the gaelty and Nick Clegg and the Lib Dems calling for more | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
tax cuts for the poorer people and those on middle incomes. That will | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
be our priority and continue to be a fight, but a good-natureed one. | :06:39. | :06:42. | |
Despite all the appearences of the Queen's Speech and the debate | :06:42. | :06:46. | |
afterwards that the Tories are leaning in to tackle the UKIP | :06:46. | :06:50. | |
threat, actually, many Conservatives still harbour some | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
hopes of winning over centrist voters. But there are some who will | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
think they won't be able to win over both types. Ed Miliband knows | :06:57. | :07:01. | |
this, that is why he teased the Prime Minister today. | :07:01. | :07:05. | |
honourable member for mid-Somerset, he goes even further, he is nodding, | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
he wants a coalition right now with UKIP. Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, they | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
used to call them clowns, now they want to join the circus! The Prime | :07:14. | :07:18. | |
Minister was clear about his plans, and he challenged Ed Miliband. | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
the deficit they would increase it, on competitiveness they would put | :07:21. | :07:26. | |
up taxes not cut them, on welfare reform they have opposed every step | :07:26. | :07:30. | |
we have taken to make our system fair and affordable. These are the | :07:30. | :07:32. | |
argument that is will dominate this Queen's Speech this session and the | :07:32. | :07:36. | |
general election. But the Labour leader made sure UKIP was front and | :07:36. | :07:41. | |
centre in the debate. As someone once said, he's in office but not | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
in power. Because what is their party spending their time talking | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
about, not youth unemployment, not the NHS, not the living standards | :07:49. | :07:53. | |
crisis but the one subject, they are obsessing about day in day out | :07:53. | :07:59. | |
is Europe and UKIP. Today that red carpet is served for two | :07:59. | :08:02. | |
generations of royals, a Queen and her son. If the fate of the | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
childcare policy is anything to go by, the other transsignificant, as | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
we enter the beginning of the end of the coalition Government, won't | :08:10. | :08:14. | |
get tide up so neatly. Let's discuss this now with the | :08:14. | :08:24. | |
Conservative Party chairman. Let's catch up with what we have heard | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
from Nick Clegg's office in the last hour or two, what will you do | :08:28. | :08:31. | |
if he doesn't support this? whole thrust of the Queen's Speech | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
is helping hard working families who want to get on in life, that | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
includes families who happen to have children. There are a couple | :08:38. | :08:43. | |
of parts to the proposal, one is to make sure people can have a tax | :08:43. | :08:46. | |
break on their child cautious up to 20% of the costs there. The other | :08:46. | :08:49. | |
is this element you were just talking about earlier which is at | :08:49. | :08:55. | |
the moment in this country, unlike say in France or Germany, the ratio | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
of carers, in other words, nursery teachers or child minders that you | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
need to have to children is much lower, or higher, depending on how | :09:02. | :09:05. | |
you look at it. For example you need to, at the moment, if the | :09:05. | :09:09. | |
child is under two, and it is in nursery, there is one child, there | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
is one person looking after them for every three. We want to move | :09:13. | :09:16. | |
that to to one to every four. It is a bit more complicated than that, | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
because there are different levels for nursery teachers and child | :09:21. | :09:24. | |
minders. I think our viewers are familiar with this because it is a | :09:24. | :09:27. | |
story we have covered a few times. The line from the Deputy Prime | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
Minister's office is he has looked very closely at the proposals to | :09:30. | :09:36. | |
increase the number of children each adult has look after, he has | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
serious concerns, raised by parents and childcare providers and he | :09:40. | :09:44. | |
remains to be persuaded it is the right thing to. Do he is not | :09:44. | :09:47. | |
convinced we thought was something signed off by the Queen today? | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
me explain the process. The reason I go into some detail about the | :09:50. | :09:53. | |
number of children for the different levels is there has been | :09:53. | :09:57. | |
a consultation, which has gone out with the full authority of the | :09:57. | :09:59. | |
Government and both sides of the coalition, and has asked these | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
questions about what the levels should be for children of different | :10:02. | :10:05. | |
ages and under different types of childcare. You have had a petition | :10:05. | :10:08. | |
of 11,000 people saying they disagree with the proposal that is | :10:08. | :10:11. | |
are going through on this issue? The whole point of a consultation | :10:11. | :10:15. | |
is get people's views. And you have 11,000 protesting, so the Prime | :10:15. | :10:19. | |
Minister, the Deputy Prime Minister is not alone in this, he is now | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
saying he won't sign off something which is absolutely integral to | :10:23. | :10:27. | |
your childcare reforms? What we think and the Conservative side of | :10:27. | :10:29. | |
this coalition believe that parents who want to go out, working hard, | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
want to get on in life should be able to look after their children, | :10:33. | :10:36. | |
or have them looked after if they want to go back to work and for | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
that to be affordable N this country it is not. A lot of people | :10:40. | :10:44. | |
will be sympathetic with the plans. I just want to step in, this isn't | :10:44. | :10:47. | |
about the policy itself, this is about whether the two leaders at | :10:47. | :10:52. | |
the top of the coalition have agreed to something that everyone | :10:52. | :10:55. | |
saw the Queen sign off today F it is not signed off and there is | :10:55. | :10:58. | |
horse trading, what does that mean for the rest of the stuff? There | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
are one or two lines in the Queen's Speech which talked about what we | :11:02. | :11:05. | |
absolutely will do, which is the hard working families out there, we | :11:05. | :11:08. | |
will make sure that childcare in this country becomes affordable | :11:08. | :11:12. | |
again. By the way to answer the question by people who have | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
petitioned and what have you, you want the quality of that childcare | :11:14. | :11:18. | |
to be higher, you want to have the higher level of qualification, | :11:18. | :11:20. | |
which isn't always used at the moment. Whether that's a | :11:21. | :11:26. | |
childminder or in a nursery, so higher quality, I think more | :11:26. | :11:33. | |
practical versions of this. Who seriously thinks a child under one | :11:33. | :11:37. | |
a childminder can only look after one, who thinks that really? Do you | :11:37. | :11:41. | |
think this is a done deal, signed off, in the books by September, | :11:41. | :11:45. | |
which is what we have all been led to believe? I think there will be a | :11:45. | :11:48. | |
package and that will include a tax break. And these other issues? | :11:48. | :11:53. | |
Which will be up to �6,000 for families T will also include | :11:53. | :11:57. | |
changing these ratios, the important thing is it is out for | :11:57. | :12:00. | |
consultation. If Nick Clegg will agree? Everything has two stages, | :12:00. | :12:04. | |
it goes to consultation with Government agreement. Isn't | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
consultation usually before it has been announced? Let me explain, it | :12:07. | :12:10. | |
goes to consultation, that has to have Government agreement. Then it | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
has to be implemented and you look through the consultation, you | :12:13. | :12:16. | |
decide what you will agree on, that is the bit you are now having this | :12:16. | :12:19. | |
discussion about. It is just that last bit of T as we have done with | :12:19. | :12:23. | |
so many other issues, many as big or bigger as a coalition, we will | :12:23. | :12:28. | |
get to the bottom of this and put plans in place that are on the side | :12:28. | :12:32. | |
of hard-working families. Immigration, you have put that at | :12:32. | :12:36. | |
the centre of much of what was talked about today, landlords to | :12:36. | :12:40. | |
check on tenants, doctors to check on migrant status, and businesses | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
that have to crackdown on whether they use illegal labour, this is | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
outsourcing isn't it? I was Housing Minister and it is absolutely right | :12:49. | :12:54. | |
that when somebody rents out a property they should know whether | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
that person is supposed to be here in the first place, it is not an | :12:58. | :13:01. | |
unreasonable thing to ask of somebody renting. When you consider | :13:01. | :13:04. | |
at the moment a local council doesn't even ask that question | :13:04. | :13:08. | |
before shelling out housing benefit, thousands of pounds potentially, | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
that can't possibly be right. A lot of the time the landlord in | :13:11. | :13:14. | |
question here will actually be the state, the Government, the local | :13:14. | :13:17. | |
authority, I think it is absolutely right to have them ask precise low | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
that question. There is no register in this country, in England, there | :13:21. | :13:24. | |
is no register, there is nothing that compels landlords to do this. | :13:24. | :13:28. | |
There is nothing that will check up on whether they have. What is the | :13:28. | :13:32. | |
incentive and what is the punishment? There are all sorts of | :13:32. | :13:42. | |
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laws in which there is no specific check against the law and there are | :13:44. | :13:49. | |
fines. You will fine? Absolutely. And check up on landlords? There | :13:49. | :13:53. | |
are he can chs in the system. There are all sorts of things that people | :13:53. | :13:57. | |
know there are things against the law. The landlord may be the local | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
authority in many of the cases, it may be a private landlord. We | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
expect private landlords to keep all kind of laws to do with health | :14:04. | :14:09. | |
and safety, this is no different. Doctors to check on migrants' | :14:09. | :14:13. | |
status, now it is the GPs that are a new Border Agency? I don't think | :14:13. | :14:17. | |
there is anything particularly shocking or surprising your viewers | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
will find unusual about the concept, before somebody accesses what can | :14:21. | :14:25. | |
be very expensive services in this country, like the NHS, that there | :14:25. | :14:27. | |
ought to be a reasonable check as to whether somebody has actually | :14:27. | :14:31. | |
paid into the system and indeed should even be in this country in | :14:31. | :14:36. | |
the first place. Are they legally here? It is a perfectly reasonable | :14:36. | :14:41. | |
thing. Most people watching this will ask why has that not been done | :14:41. | :14:51. | |
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a long time ago. Ed Miliband called this a speech to "out-Farrage | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
Farrage"? It is up to Ed Miliband to come up with policies all of | :14:55. | :15:00. | |
which we have yet to see at this stage. The Queen's Speech indicates | :15:00. | :15:03. | |
15 pieces of legislation that we are hard at work to help people in | :15:03. | :15:07. | |
this country who want to work hard and get on with life. It doesn't | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
matter if it is the Immigration Bill stopping people accessing | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
services, or long-term care that means you don't have to sell your | :15:13. | :15:18. | |
home any more, or the fact that you will get a decent single-tier | :15:18. | :15:22. | |
pension from 2016. All those things are in the Queen's Speech, and we | :15:22. | :15:27. | |
are on the side of people who want to work hard and get on in life. | :15:27. | :15:30. | |
Coming up: This is an uprising from the | :15:30. | :15:39. | |
grassroots. We take to the skies with Pakistan's election candidates. | :15:39. | :15:42. | |
Despite the pomp at Westminster it was footballing royalty that | :15:42. | :15:47. | |
arguably stole the show today. The man who promised to knock Liverpool | :15:47. | :15:55. | |
off their "f-ing perch" amongst other things retired today. Alex | :15:55. | :16:00. | |
Fergsuon leaves Manchester United, a club worth many millions with 38 | :16:00. | :16:03. | |
trophies under his belt. His approach was more despot than | :16:03. | :16:08. | |
democrat, but it worked. The BBC understands that David Moyes will | :16:08. | :16:13. | |
be announced as the new manager tomorrow. We look at what made Sir | :16:13. | :16:23. | |
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Alex the best. Manchester United have won the | :16:24. | :16:29. | |
European Cup, it is astonishing. He stabbed it with his right foot and | :16:29. | :16:33. | |
Manchester United rule Europe. is an achievement that symbolises | :16:33. | :16:38. | |
almost everything that Sir Alex Fergsuon has come to represent. On | :16:38. | :16:44. | |
May 26th 1999, Manchester United defeated Bayern Munich with a last- | :16:44. | :16:50. | |
minute strike to win an unprecedented treble. It spoke of | :16:50. | :16:54. | |
resilience, tenacity and unwaviering commitment to success. | :16:54. | :16:59. | |
As Fergsuon himself put it, "we never give up, the time to give up | :16:59. | :17:03. | |
is when you are dead". Fergsuon is a deeply polarising figure, there | :17:03. | :17:08. | |
is no doubt he's a collosus of the modern sporting world. His | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
retirement leaves a void, not just in the world's biggest club, but in | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
one of the nation's most important cultural institutions, football. | :17:16. | :17:20. | |
How did he achieve so much? How did he take a club and sport | :17:20. | :17:27. | |
languishing in the 1980s and set in train what can only be described as | :17:27. | :17:34. | |
a revolution. It all started in Govern. Fergsuon grew up in ten | :17:35. | :17:39. | |
meant building in the industrial heartland of Glasgow. It was there | :17:39. | :17:44. | |
he learned the things that would dominate his managerial style. The | :17:44. | :17:48. | |
importance of community, discipline and solidarity. That heavy | :17:48. | :17:57. | |
industrial heritage that is where it all comes from. You would have | :17:57. | :18:01. | |
to have grown up in the communities to know why. Loyalties certainly | :18:01. | :18:08. | |
come into it, "loyalty" is a word Fergsuon always uses, next to | :18:08. | :18:13. | |
"power", it was probably one of his favourites. And Fergsuon's loyalty | :18:13. | :18:18. | |
is that loyalty is people being faithful to him! Fergsuon was | :18:18. | :18:23. | |
interested not merely in building a team but in creating a dynasty. | :18:23. | :18:29. | |
Like Sir Matt Busby before him. He made a conscious attempt to have a | :18:29. | :18:36. | |
mythology around United. The Busby Babes after the Munich plane | :18:36. | :18:41. | |
disaster. He was not interested in players playing merely for the pay | :18:41. | :18:46. | |
check, he wanted them -- pay cheque, he wanted them to buy into | :18:46. | :18:53. | |
something more visceral. Under him the team became a family a tribe. | :18:53. | :18:56. | |
No retrospective can ignore Ferguson's darker side. I don't | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
know what you are name is I'm not interested in what you have to say. | :18:59. | :19:04. | |
He was controlling and at times manipulative. He banned journalists | :19:04. | :19:08. | |
who wrote negative stories, even when they were true. He boycotted | :19:08. | :19:12. | |
media organisations, including the BBC. At times Old Trafford seemed | :19:12. | :19:17. | |
like a personal fiefdom. expressed himself through the | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
questioning of other people's motives. Not just referees, we know | :19:22. | :19:30. | |
about that, working on referees. But working on the mixture | :19:30. | :19:32. | |
compilers for conspiring against Manchester United, against the | :19:32. | :19:36. | |
television companies for their scheduling, against the Premier | :19:36. | :19:38. | |
League for mitigating since Manchester United's Champions | :19:38. | :19:43. | |
League chances by the dates of matches. All this as decribing of | :19:43. | :19:51. | |
bad faith to -- ascribing of bad faith was something that didn't | :19:51. | :19:55. | |
happen in the past. Managers previous were sportsmanlike in | :19:55. | :19:59. | |
public, they might not like it in private, but they were in public, | :19:59. | :20:06. | |
Ferguson has changed all that. Clive Woodward, one of sport's most | :20:06. | :20:10. | |
influential leaders argues that these defects could be great | :20:10. | :20:14. | |
strengths. Most people at the top of business and sport are not the | :20:14. | :20:17. | |
easiest to get on with, they are like that and used to battering | :20:17. | :20:22. | |
doors down. That is what you want. At a dangerous time you put in the | :20:22. | :20:25. | |
popular person or somebody to get on with everybody, that doesn't | :20:25. | :20:28. | |
always produce a winning team in my experience. You want someone out | :20:28. | :20:32. | |
there an out-and-out leader and figurehead who knows everyone will | :20:32. | :20:36. | |
follow him. He's that person. I think Alex Ferguson would have been | :20:36. | :20:40. | |
successful whatever he did. It is one of the great ironies of | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
Ferguson's tenure that this avowed socialist presided over the | :20:44. | :20:49. | |
transformation of the club into a bastion of global capitalism. The | :20:49. | :20:53. | |
club was purchased by family of American entrepeneurs and loaded | :20:53. | :21:00. | |
down with leveraged debt. It caused a breakaway amongst hardcore fans. | :21:00. | :21:05. | |
It was only the success of the manager that held the club together. | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
Ferguson's success at United has coincided with a boom in one of | :21:08. | :21:13. | |
Britain's most successful exports. Whilst the Premier League is big it | :21:13. | :21:21. | |
is only as big as its aggregate stellar clubs, there is no club | :21:21. | :21:23. | |
bigger on a worldwide basis than Manchester United. There is no | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
single character, whether it be a player or whoever who has been | :21:27. | :21:31. | |
involved in Manchester United that comes bigger than Sir Alex. So in a | :21:31. | :21:37. | |
sense, if you look at me as the "chief salesman" of the Premier | :21:37. | :21:39. | |
League, I have been out there selling, do you want a watch, do | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
you want this or that. But the biggest product I have had to sell | :21:43. | :21:46. | |
is the fact that when they buy the Premier League they buy Manchester | :21:46. | :21:53. | |
United, and when they buy Manchester United they buy Sir Alex | :21:53. | :22:00. | |
Ferguson. Before Ferguson's tenure football was almost a different | :22:00. | :22:05. | |
sport. The creation of the Premier League in 1992 was a watershed that | :22:05. | :22:15. | |
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coincided with the beginning of Ferguson's dominance. 85-86 there | :22:16. | :22:20. | |
was no television deal, no Match of the Day. The BBC didn't want to | :22:20. | :22:22. | |
show highlights. We had no television deal at all. There was | :22:22. | :22:25. | |
no football on television, you couldn't give it way. Then we had | :22:25. | :22:31. | |
the tragedies of Bradford and Hillsborough, and then we had all | :22:31. | :22:36. | |
the fall-out from that. Don't underestimate how big a part that | :22:36. | :22:40. | |
played really in the resurgence. Because, again, the fact that the | :22:40. | :22:45. | |
Premier League was even able to break-away. It wouldn't, and | :22:45. | :22:49. | |
couldn't happen today. It was at a time when nobody was interested. | :22:49. | :22:53. | |
is not just the fans who have been spooked. United's value plummeted | :22:53. | :22:59. | |
today by �80 million on the opening of the New York Stock Exchange. | :23:00. | :23:06. | |
David Moyes, a fellow Glaswegian, is expected to be announced as | :23:06. | :23:10. | |
Ferguson's successor. He will take over from one of the most xelgs | :23:10. | :23:14. | |
compelling and complex figures in British sports. Mark Hughes was one | :23:14. | :23:19. | |
of his early signings, he went on to play for Manchester United and | :23:19. | :23:24. | |
managed Fulham and Queens Park Rangers. I asked him what set Sir | :23:24. | :23:29. | |
Alex apart? It is his retire and will to win. That is what he | :23:29. | :23:33. | |
imparts on players. I was very fortunate to play for five or six | :23:33. | :23:37. | |
years under him. His determination to succeed as a manager and | :23:37. | :23:41. | |
determination to make you better as player was there every single day | :23:41. | :23:44. | |
that I was there and certainly that's continued for the whole of | :23:44. | :23:50. | |
the 26 years I'm sure. When I first went there United weren't in a | :23:50. | :23:55. | |
great situation in terms of the quality of the team. But obviously | :23:55. | :23:59. | |
as time has passed he has addresseded that very, very quickly | :23:59. | :24:04. | |
and has had addressed that very, very quickly and had success that | :24:04. | :24:09. | |
won't be emulated again in my view. When you say that desire to succeed, | :24:09. | :24:19. | |
:24:19. | :24:19. | ||
was he terrifying as a manager? Absolutely, yeah. When he first | :24:19. | :24:23. | |
came down from Scotland he found things that were completely at odds | :24:23. | :24:26. | |
than he would find, he knew he had to address them and stamp his | :24:26. | :24:31. | |
authority. He did that very, very quickly. But all accounts he has | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
mellowed, I'm not sure he has. He has had to manage in a different | :24:35. | :24:40. | |
way. It is a different era. The dressing rooms are different to | :24:40. | :24:44. | |
when he first came down from Scotland. The dressing room was | :24:44. | :24:47. | |
dominantly British and now it is a lot more diverse. He has had to | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
change I'm sure. That is one of his great strengths he has never stood | :24:51. | :24:55. | |
still. A lot of managers have gone out the game because they have | :24:55. | :25:00. | |
thought that what they did 20 years ago would stand them in good stead, | :25:00. | :25:04. | |
but he has always embraced new things. What if you disagreed with | :25:04. | :25:07. | |
him, was there room for disagreement in the skad? Sfrpblgt | :25:07. | :25:13. | |
you could disagree, but in some -- You could disagree, but in no | :25:13. | :25:18. | |
uncertain terms he would tell you you were wrong. You could have a | :25:18. | :25:22. | |
voice, I was present on a number of occasions when players went head- | :25:22. | :25:27. | |
to-head with him. You always knew he was the boss and fundamentally | :25:27. | :25:30. | |
you always knew what he said was right. You had the utmost respect | :25:30. | :25:33. | |
for him, at times you didn't particularly like him because of | :25:33. | :25:36. | |
the way he was. He made you a better player and that is why you | :25:36. | :25:41. | |
had great respect for him. When you were managing Manchester City, | :25:41. | :25:46. | |
could you have gone to him at that point for advice? I'm not sure | :25:46. | :25:50. | |
about that. Possibly. In fairness to him he was always very open and | :25:51. | :25:54. | |
always has been ever since he has been a manager. And since I have | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
been a manager he is always there for you. He's very good with young | :25:58. | :26:02. | |
managers. He's very good with ex- players trying to find a way in | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
this crazy world of football. You knew that if you were in a real | :26:06. | :26:10. | |
tight spot that he would help you. I don't think he possibly would | :26:10. | :26:14. | |
have been as forth coming when it was Manchester City manager, but | :26:14. | :26:17. | |
certainly you knew that there was a pool of knowledge that you could | :26:17. | :26:24. | |
tap into any time I'm sure. We hear those quotes that he wanted to | :26:24. | :26:29. | |
"knock Liverpool off its f-ing perch", his feelings towards | :26:29. | :26:32. | |
Manchester City were similar to the end. Do you think he was driven by | :26:32. | :26:37. | |
the desire, not just to win, but to really see the others put down? | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
think he just had a real desire to see Manchester United top of the | :26:40. | :26:46. | |
pile. When he came down from Scotland the team itself was | :26:46. | :26:49. | |
underperforming, it was a mid-table First Division side. Quickly | :26:49. | :26:54. | |
addressed that and made them the superpower that they are now. It is | :26:54. | :26:59. | |
all down to him. Down to his desire, his determination to take United | :26:59. | :27:09. | |
:27:09. | :27:09. | ||
where he felt they rightly should be. Only a man of his stature was | :27:09. | :27:19. | |
:27:19. | :27:19. | ||
able to do it. We know that David Moyes going to be put into the job | :27:19. | :27:24. | |
is that the right choice? Congrat layings to him and he's an | :27:24. | :27:27. | |
outstanding manager. He has -- congratulations to him he's an | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
outstanding manager and he has shown that in his longevity in the | :27:31. | :27:36. | |
job. He will be viewed as a manager who can come in and stead Yeo the | :27:36. | :27:40. | |
ship and make sure things -- steady the ship and make sure things | :27:40. | :27:50. | |
:27:50. | :27:54. | ||
continue in the same vain. Joining me -- vein. Joining me now is Danny | :27:54. | :28:02. | |
Finkelstein, and Alastair dam bell and my guest from America. Did the | :28:02. | :28:05. | |
think-tank see this? I'm a great sceptic about managers, I think | :28:05. | :28:09. | |
most of the time they make no difference, but there are a few who | :28:09. | :28:13. | |
are an exception and he was. You can plot the wages against points. | :28:13. | :28:16. | |
You can see whether someone just basically spends the money and gets | :28:16. | :28:22. | |
back what you would expect. That is what Roberto Mancini this season | :28:22. | :28:27. | |
has done. But Alex Ferguson season after season is outperforming the | :28:27. | :28:33. | |
money. He's an above-the-curve manager. He was our Manager of the | :28:33. | :28:39. | |
Season this year. When he look over in 1986 that was the trajectory he | :28:39. | :28:42. | |
wanted, where did the tipping point come? We have only been doing | :28:42. | :28:47. | |
statistics for ten years, he clearly had a run-in period. What | :28:47. | :28:50. | |
is also apparent is Manchester United as an organisation stuck | :28:50. | :28:54. | |
with him. Lots of organisations, it has happened to Brian McDermott, | :28:55. | :29:03. | |
Manager of the Month one month and sacked the next. Articlely Acelotti, | :29:03. | :29:08. | |
in April and March Manager of the Month and sacked in May by Chelsea. | :29:08. | :29:12. | |
But Alex was allowed to lose two back-to-back titles to Chelsea and | :29:12. | :29:18. | |
they didn't make him retire. As an organisation they understood that | :29:18. | :29:23. | |
results compared to the mean, that statistics bounce about but he was | :29:23. | :29:27. | |
the right manager. Does statistics show that lesson that you stick | :29:27. | :29:31. | |
with the guy who is failing because consistency is more important than | :29:31. | :29:35. | |
change? I think consistency is very, very important. I think the fact | :29:35. | :29:41. | |
that Alex Ferguson has been manager of the club for 26 years | :29:41. | :29:44. | |
consistently, as you have just pointed out, he had a sticky first | :29:44. | :29:50. | |
five years. I think they lost 5-1 to Manchester City in the first few | :29:50. | :29:54. | |
years, there were calls for his head. The manager of the club stuck | :29:54. | :30:03. | |
with him.S had an interesting change, I felt very sad, like Peter | :30:03. | :30:08. | |
Schmikel that Alex was retiring. You have David Gill from the club | :30:08. | :30:12. | |
as CEO and the manager going at the same time. Or a similar time, it is | :30:12. | :30:16. | |
interesting that they moved so quickly on David Moyes. I had to | :30:16. | :30:19. | |
correct one thing, the fall in the share price was not as substantial | :30:19. | :30:25. | |
as the report suggested. By the close it was down about 2%, about | :30:25. | :30:29. | |
$60 million. Given the significance of the change I think the club has | :30:29. | :30:34. | |
handled it very well. Certainly in the early days. I think David Moyes | :30:34. | :30:39. | |
has to be given time, that is the critical issue, coming back to the | :30:39. | :30:43. | |
point about consistency. That David Moyes will have his ups and downs, | :30:43. | :30:49. | |
and it is very important that the board give him time to make his | :30:49. | :30:54. | |
mark as they gave Alex Ferguson the time he needed from 1986. It looks | :30:54. | :31:02. | |
like we have decided's in the job as of tomorrow? Apart from Sam | :31:02. | :31:06. | |
Allerdyce he's the only one above the line, he achieves more points | :31:06. | :31:12. | |
than the money. His resignation, might have pre-empted his decision | :31:12. | :31:16. | |
by a few days, but he was one of the few people in those jobs who | :31:16. | :31:20. | |
could decide when he went, rather than the other way around? It was | :31:20. | :31:23. | |
important to him that he did that. As he has been successful over time | :31:23. | :31:27. | |
he has become more powerful within the club and within the game. Mark | :31:27. | :31:31. | |
Hughes is not the only manager to talk in those terms about Alex | :31:31. | :31:36. | |
Ferguson, because he has people all over football. He was pretty much | :31:36. | :31:40. | |
unsackable, but I think he wanted to go when he was strong, when he | :31:40. | :31:45. | |
just won another title. The handing over to David Moyes is part of a | :31:45. | :31:50. | |
transition. Because he picked him? He is clearly involved in that. He | :31:50. | :31:53. | |
wants the club to be in good shape. He wants somebody to come in and | :31:53. | :31:58. | |
build on what he has done. He won't be a back seat driver, he will | :31:58. | :32:00. | |
definitely be involved, an ambassador and director for the | :32:00. | :32:04. | |
club. He is a legend. The word "legend" is overused in football. | :32:04. | :32:08. | |
He is a legend. He's a great believer in history, and the power | :32:08. | :32:12. | |
of history for the here and now. Manchester United is now an even | :32:12. | :32:16. | |
bigger club as a result of what he has done today. Because it is the | :32:16. | :32:20. | |
latest chapter in the legend. bored "brand" is often overused, | :32:20. | :32:24. | |
but this story has been leading bulletins right across Africa, Asia, | :32:24. | :32:29. | |
China and the rest of it? Absolutely incredible. If you | :32:29. | :32:33. | |
follow the Twitter pattern more tweets than when Margaret Thatcher | :32:34. | :32:38. | |
died a week or so ago. It is quite extraordinary the focus on it. | :32:38. | :32:43. | |
Manchester United is the biggest brand in world football. We track | :32:43. | :32:46. | |
1.6 million global fans around the world. Almost half of those around | :32:47. | :32:51. | |
the world, mainly in the fast- growing market, the called emerging | :32:51. | :32:54. | |
markets, follow Manchester United with a passion. With the same | :32:54. | :32:59. | |
passion that Alex Ferguson had as manager. I think that's what marks | :32:59. | :33:02. | |
him out. He is almost entre pent neural in his zeal for Manchester | :33:02. | :33:12. | |
:33:12. | :33:14. | ||
United and the brand. I think the - - there is nothing wrong with want | :33:14. | :33:19. | |
to go win. If that does annoy others and get into trouble with | :33:19. | :33:24. | |
the BBC that is it. Alex Ferguson would often win titles when | :33:24. | :33:28. | |
Manchester United were not the best team. This season bizarrely enough | :33:28. | :33:31. | |
Manchester City beat Manchester United and they were favourites, | :33:31. | :33:35. | |
the think-tank made them favourites in that game. I want to pick up on | :33:35. | :33:42. | |
what was said, the entrepeneural spirit, the art socialist who | :33:42. | :33:47. | |
seemed to despise money and sit atop this �3 billion empire? | :33:47. | :33:51. | |
didn't despise money, one of the reasons he remained a Labour | :33:51. | :33:54. | |
supporter and very committed to new Labour was the fact that in a sense | :33:54. | :33:59. | |
what Tony Blair certainly did was success was not a dirty word. Also | :33:59. | :34:03. | |
it was perfectly possible to be wealthy as Alex Ferguson is, but | :34:04. | :34:07. | |
also to have the same socialist values with which he grew up. One | :34:07. | :34:11. | |
of the reasons he was a successful manager for Manchester United is he | :34:11. | :34:14. | |
brought those values into the club. That is another reason to go for | :34:14. | :34:19. | |
David Moyes because he has done something very similar at Everton. | :34:19. | :34:22. | |
Anyone who has seen Alex Ferguson operating around the ground and the | :34:22. | :34:26. | |
club, he knows everybody and their kids' names. I'm not saying non- | :34:26. | :34:29. | |
socialists don't, but that sense of the club being the product of | :34:29. | :34:33. | |
people, including the fans around the world that you talked about, | :34:33. | :34:39. | |
that is mean ago lot to him and that is why he has built such a big | :34:39. | :34:46. | |
institution. You know him better I only know him out of the newspapers. | :34:46. | :34:49. | |
He's an intelligent person with strong values. A lot of people | :34:49. | :34:53. | |
think that doesn't in sport, it clearly does, just to receive | :34:53. | :34:56. | |
better results, it matters on the pitch that a lot of the footballers | :34:57. | :35:00. | |
aren't that educated but they are very clever. To have to be in order | :35:01. | :35:08. | |
to do things like calculate the angle required for Van Persie to | :35:08. | :35:14. | |
score an amazing goal. When Matthew was talking about the revolution, a | :35:14. | :35:18. | |
footballing revolution was put down in no small part to Alex Ferguson? | :35:18. | :35:23. | |
He has only played a role in it, satellite television played a role | :35:23. | :35:27. | |
in it. Which one is bigger, Murdoch or Ferguson? Football went through | :35:27. | :35:32. | |
a very bad patch. There is Thatcher was not the best Prime Minister for | :35:32. | :35:35. | |
football. The Premier League did turn it into something different. | :35:35. | :35:39. | |
Match that to television. Match that to some of the big names in | :35:39. | :35:43. | |
the game. Let's not forget, we are talking about Alex for various | :35:43. | :35:46. | |
reasons, but the players are hugely important in that. What he was | :35:46. | :35:50. | |
always brilliant at was spotting the talent and turning that talent. | :35:50. | :35:54. | |
He was great at taking good players and turning them into something | :35:54. | :35:58. | |
very special. Do you think that Manchester United is at the peak of | :35:58. | :36:05. | |
its brand position right now. Is the only way down from here? It is | :36:05. | :36:09. | |
worth $3 billion on the exchange. Arsenal is worth about half of that, | :36:09. | :36:17. | |
$1.5, you look at the Green Bay Packers, they are valued at $1 | :36:17. | :36:22. | |
million. Real Madrid were ranked by Forbes slightly higher in terms of | :36:22. | :36:26. | |
revenue, Manchester United doesn't have a quote to compare it to. In | :36:26. | :36:28. | |
terms of brand value Manchester United certainly extremely strong. | :36:28. | :36:33. | |
It will be a testing time for Manchester United without Alex | :36:33. | :36:39. | |
faring fare -- Ferguson, without David Gill, strong shirt | :36:39. | :36:46. | |
sponsorship and ground sponsorship that has been built. It will be a | :36:46. | :36:49. | |
testing time and this is a transition period. There is no | :36:49. | :36:51. | |
reason why Manchester United shouldn't go on to be one of the | :36:51. | :36:54. | |
most powerful, if not the most powerful brands, not just in | :36:54. | :36:58. | |
football, not just in soccer, but across the whole sports world. | :36:58. | :37:03. | |
Thank you all very much. Thanks. Pakistan's heading to the polls, | :37:03. | :37:06. | |
for the first time in the 63 history one democratically elected | :37:06. | :37:09. | |
Government will be replaced by another. That hasn't stopped it | :37:09. | :37:13. | |
being the bloodiest election ever. Scores of people have died in | :37:13. | :37:16. | |
attacks by the Taliban, targeting political parties and candidates. | :37:16. | :37:19. | |
It has become a battle between democratic and non-democratic | :37:20. | :37:23. | |
forces that will shape the future direction of the country. We have | :37:23. | :37:28. | |
been out on the campaign trail with the leading candidates. | :37:28. | :37:33. | |
With The crowds have gathered here at this hospital in Lahore, where | :37:33. | :37:37. | |
doctors are keeping Imran Khan under close observation. Last night | :37:37. | :37:43. | |
he tumbled from a fork lift at an electoraly in the city. He has had | :37:43. | :37:47. | |
15 stitches and sustained three spinal fractures. The doctors say | :37:47. | :37:50. | |
he will make a full recovery, he just needs to rest. That is hard, | :37:50. | :37:55. | |
these are the final showers of the most close low- fought, the most | :37:55. | :37:59. | |
unpredictable election that Pakistan has ever seen. The big | :37:59. | :38:03. | |
question now is will Imran Khan's fall cause him to rise in the polls. | :38:03. | :38:08. | |
There will be a sympathy vote. That is certainly on the minds of his | :38:08. | :38:13. | |
rivals. His chief challenger, Nawaz Sharif, cancelled his rallies today | :38:13. | :38:17. | |
in solidarity. It was also a shrewd political move. In the last month | :38:17. | :38:21. | |
these two men have campaigned the hardest. That's partly because | :38:21. | :38:26. | |
their parties are not on a Taliban hitlist. There have been almost | :38:26. | :38:30. | |
daily attacks on other candidates. Even so Imran Khan and Nawaz Sharif | :38:30. | :38:38. | |
are the front-runners this time. We have been following both of them. | :38:38. | :38:43. | |
In Pakistan election campaigns have always had a carnival atmosphere. | :38:43. | :38:48. | |
Even here in the North West which has seen some of the worst of | :38:48. | :38:51. | |
Taliban attacks. But this time only certain politicians have been able | :38:52. | :38:58. | |
to hold rallies in relative safety. Imran Khan is one of them. He's | :38:58. | :39:04. | |
drawing huge crowds. REPORTER: How is the campaign going? We are | :39:05. | :39:10. | |
winning. His critics say he has been able to hold rallies here | :39:10. | :39:14. | |
because he has been soft on the Taliban. REPORTER: They say you are | :39:14. | :39:17. | |
not willing to fight the Taliban who are causing the war here? | :39:17. | :39:20. | |
have been fighting them for nine years and it has got worse. There | :39:20. | :39:24. | |
is more radicalisation, there is more extremism, there is more | :39:24. | :39:30. | |
terrorism today than nine years back. Clearly what we are trying to | :39:30. | :39:35. | |
do to cure this illness is increasing the cancer, it is | :39:35. | :39:39. | |
spreading. You need to change strategy. The former cricket | :39:39. | :39:44. | |
captain, well known in the west as a charismatic playboy still limbers | :39:44. | :39:52. | |
up for a fight. But he leads a different team now, with a very | :39:52. | :40:01. | |
different message. All the bloodshed here is America's fault | :40:01. | :40:06. | |
he tells these crowds. He vows to shoot down US drones operating | :40:06. | :40:09. | |
along the Afghan border and promises to establish a model | :40:09. | :40:19. | |
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Islamic welfare state. That message resonates here in one of the most | :40:24. | :40:28. | |
conservative parts of Pakistan. Even so, like every other | :40:28. | :40:36. | |
politician, armed guards form part of his entourage. On every stop he | :40:36. | :40:45. | |
takes the same message, change. New Pakistan. As he plies across the | :40:45. | :40:50. | |
country, the confident Khan promises to end corruption and up- | :40:50. | :40:56. | |
end the political status quo. That is striking a chord unthinkable a | :40:56. | :41:06. | |
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decade ago. In the 2002 elections his Movement for Justice party won | :41:07. | :41:17. | |
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only one seat. His rivals say he's inexperienced, niave, but 60-year- | :41:17. | :41:24. | |
old Imran Khan thinks his time has come. What you are seeing is a | :41:24. | :41:30. | |
revolution. This is beyond, if you see the passion, this is not normal | :41:30. | :41:34. | |
politics. This is an uprising from the grassroots. And what has | :41:34. | :41:40. | |
happened is that we have completely bypassed the traditional | :41:40. | :41:43. | |
politicians and the people are moving away from them. There is no | :41:43. | :41:47. | |
doubting his popularity, but can he win votes without the party | :41:47. | :41:53. | |
machinery of his more established rivals. For decades people power | :41:53. | :41:57. | |
used to be the mantra of the Pakistan People's Party. This time | :41:57. | :42:07. | |
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it is mainly campaigning on the past. Rallies of Benazir Bhutto, | :42:10. | :42:16. | |
executed, and her father also executed. In this Pakistani dynasty | :42:16. | :42:23. | |
her son heads the party that won the last elections. Taliban threats | :42:23. | :42:30. | |
mean he has had to leave Pakistan. So he is posting video messages on- | :42:30. | :42:35. | |
line from Dubai. A party with a poor record in office hasn't had | :42:35. | :42:39. | |
much of a campaign. Although traditional loyalties still hold in | :42:39. | :42:47. | |
some areas. But Pakistan's other major political force is still | :42:47. | :42:53. | |
taking to the road. Nawaz Sharif is a familiar face. I have been | :42:53. | :42:58. | |
covering his election campaign since 1988. Good to see you again. | :42:58. | :43:03. | |
How are you? Good. You are back on the campaign trail. He has been | :43:03. | :43:07. | |
Prime Minister twice, from a family of wealthy industrialists. No | :43:07. | :43:13. | |
wonder he can afford to travel by private jet. On the plane he reads | :43:13. | :43:17. | |
the latest reports which predict he will be Prime Minister again. But I | :43:17. | :43:22. | |
put it to him that Imran Khan and his message of change are | :43:22. | :43:25. | |
challenging his Pakistan Muslim League, even on his home turf, | :43:25. | :43:31. | |
Punjab, where elections are won and lost? We are changing and we will | :43:31. | :43:36. | |
continue to change. We know we have the right team with us. We have a | :43:36. | :43:43. | |
team of exports, people who have done it before. I think no other | :43:43. | :43:52. | |
party can claim to have better people than we have in the group | :43:52. | :43:56. | |
and they are honest. Our team is recognised by everybody in this | :43:56. | :43:59. | |
country. What if they say if the traditional parties had done a | :44:00. | :44:04. | |
better job then Pakistan would not be in the trouble it is? We need | :44:05. | :44:13. | |
mature not immature people. Nawaz Sharif still has strong support. | :44:13. | :44:19. | |
They shout "Prime Minister" as he arrives at this hotel in Islamabad. | :44:19. | :44:24. | |
He's here to meet local shopkeeper. But even this business meeting | :44:24. | :44:31. | |
descends into chaos. They are here because they say Nawaz Sharif is | :44:31. | :44:39. | |
good for business. He says join him to make Pakistan a prosperous land. | :44:39. | :44:49. | |
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He promises to end the constant power cuts crippling the economy. | :44:49. | :44:56. | |
And then his favourite punch line. "I play cricket too", but it is not | :44:56. | :45:02. | |
the only thing he has done, he says. He has also made the atom bomb. | :45:02. | :45:05. | |
Pakistan went nuclear when he was in office. He knows that line goes | :45:05. | :45:14. | |
down well here. This contest is possibly the most unpredictable | :45:14. | :45:20. | |
Pakistan has ever seen. Not just because of new candidates, about 40 | :45:20. | :45:25. | |
million young Pakistanis will be eligible to vote for the first time. | :45:25. | :45:32. | |
They are entering the debate. really excited for this, and the | :45:32. | :45:37. | |
Pakistanis are youth-based the majority of the population is young. | :45:37. | :45:41. | |
This time we have our voices raised for the empowerment of the youth | :45:41. | :45:48. | |
and the new changes. In large parts of Pakistan Taliban attacks on some | :45:48. | :45:53. | |
parties are dictating the course of the campaign. They are operating | :45:53. | :45:55. | |
with impunity. That growing strength will have to be addressed. | :45:56. | :46:05. | |
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No matter who wins. The big issue now is turnout on Saturday. Fear of | :46:06. | :46:12. | |
attacks could keep many at home. If so, a political force which isn't | :46:12. | :46:17. | |
on the ballot will have won the day. All the papers going on different | :46:17. | :46:20. | |
things tomorrow, we will receive leave you with just one, the Sun's | :46:20. | :46:30. | |
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front page, the Hair Dryer After starting the week with warm | :46:40. | :46:44. | |
sunshine, Thursday's weather is not what you would expect or indeed | :46:44. | :46:48. | |
hoped for with a deep area of low pressure barreling in from the | :46:48. | :46:52. | |
Atlantic, bringing strong winds over the southern part of the UK. | :46:52. | :46:55. | |
With heavy and persistent rain. It will be a breezy day for Northern | :46:55. | :46:58. | |
Ireland. Brighter spells for the afternoon. But some thundery | :46:58. | :47:01. | |
showers. Northern Scotland fares pretty well throughout the day. | :47:01. | :47:05. | |
Probably the best of the sunshine here. There will be showers around | :47:05. | :47:10. | |
too. The wind comparatively light to the strength of the south. | :47:10. | :47:13. | |
Northern England wet through the afternoon. Rain pushing into the | :47:13. | :47:16. | |
Midland. In the east sunny spells across East Anglia and the south- | :47:16. | :47:20. | |
east of England T won't feel warm. 12-13 are the highs, strong and | :47:21. | :47:26. | |
gusty winds and a chance of showers. Wettest and windyist through all of | :47:26. | :47:30. | |
this, the south west of England and Wales. Gusts up to 65 miles around | :47:30. | :47:34. | |
the Irish Sea coast. 55 miles an hour inland. The rain stick around | :47:34. | :47:39. | |
for a good part of the day. For Thursday, some of the best of the | :47:40. | :47:43. | |
sunshine to be found to the far north of the British Isles. By | :47:43. | :47:45. | |
Friday hopefully we will see something dryer and brighter | :47:45. | :47:49. | |
pushing into the south. Friday though does bring us another pretty | :47:49. | :47:53. |