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Imams appeal to plaums to help prevent child abuse and sexual | :00:17. | :00:20. | |
exploitation. It is a crime of a twisted bunch of people who are | :00:20. | :00:26. | |
sick to the core, staying silent about T it is in itself a sin. | :00:26. | :00:30. | |
is hard to imagine the Church of England doing anything similar, | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
well intentioned though the appeal may be, is it an acknowledgement | :00:34. | :00:38. | |
that the community has a particular problem? The man who wrote the | :00:38. | :00:47. | |
sermon will be joining us. And then this... Paris Hilton is hosting a | :00:47. | :00:51. | |
party tonight. Where does she live, could we find a way in. Let's go to | :00:51. | :00:56. | |
Paris's, I want to rob. But it is more than robbery, it is greed, it | :00:56. | :01:02. | |
is stupidity and homeage. The The Bling Ring is based on a true story | :01:02. | :01:05. | |
of teenage worship of celebrity and fashion. We will be talking to the | :01:06. | :01:12. | |
writer of this tale of our times. We report from Burma about how a | :01:12. | :01:16. | |
year on from the fighting which drove them from their homes and | :01:16. | :01:26. | |
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despite British aid, the Rohingya people are still desperate. | :01:28. | :01:31. | |
Prominent Muslims in Britain used today's weekly worship to try to | :01:31. | :01:36. | |
get a message through the mosques that certain sorts of behaviour, | :01:36. | :01:39. | |
notably criminal and sexual behaviour, were not acceptable. It | :01:39. | :01:44. | |
was claimed earlier that the message it be read out at 500 | :01:45. | :01:49. | |
mosques. Organisations keen to promote good community relations | :01:49. | :01:54. | |
talked up the claim that the figure is a figment of someone's | :01:54. | :01:58. | |
imagination and in Oxford, where this week a gang was sentenced for | :01:58. | :02:04. | |
a series of child sex offences, various mosques refused to read it | :02:04. | :02:14. | |
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out at all. So what did happen? you and me what's happened by those | :02:17. | :02:21. | |
criminals, those thugs is totally condemned. They have no space in | :02:21. | :02:25. | |
our religion, they have no space in our community. So those who think | :02:25. | :02:29. | |
that sex cannot be talked about in our mosques, and I need you to wake | :02:29. | :02:33. | |
up and smell the coffee. Of course you can, there are no topics in | :02:34. | :02:37. | |
Islam that is taboo. The message was hard-hitting, there must be | :02:37. | :02:44. | |
change now and Muslims need to act. Yesterday saw the jailing of seven | :02:44. | :02:49. | |
men from Oxford who plied girls with drugs and alcohol before | :02:49. | :02:54. | |
forcing them to perform sexual acts. As in other cases the abuse was | :02:54. | :02:57. | |
largely perpetrated by Asian men. Sometimes in full view of | :02:57. | :03:03. | |
bystanders. Today was an attempt by religious leaders to urge fellow | :03:03. | :03:09. | |
Muslims not to turn a blind eye but to confront the problems in their | :03:09. | :03:14. | |
midst. What has happened by those criminals and those thugs is | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
totally condemned. Staying silent about it, covering it up is in | :03:18. | :03:24. | |
itself a sin. But the reporting of it doesn't always happen, as an | :03:24. | :03:29. | |
anonymous contributor told a BBC Asian Network debate this morning. | :03:29. | :03:33. | |
How many people in your social circle knew that these guys were | :03:33. | :03:38. | |
bad guys? All of my friends knew that these guys were bad, to be | :03:38. | :03:44. | |
honest. Do you think there were people who actually genuinely knew | :03:44. | :03:48. | |
what they were doing? Yeah.And didn't say anything? Yeah, I think | :03:48. | :03:52. | |
so. I definitely think so. Why do you think that? The group of | :03:52. | :03:57. | |
friends is quite big and obviously as a group of friends boys together | :03:57. | :04:03. | |
they talk. So I'm a sure other people did know. So it wasn't a | :04:03. | :04:07. | |
secret? In the sense it wasn't hidden away. Everybody in the | :04:07. | :04:12. | |
community knows they were bad people. Today's sermons also linked | :04:12. | :04:17. | |
sex before marriage to abuse. Anyone who abuses children, anyone | :04:17. | :04:20. | |
who has sex outside marriage, anyone who exploits other people | :04:20. | :04:25. | |
for sexual favours for us it is all wrong, it is all sins. As far as we | :04:25. | :04:29. | |
are concerned we need to have a holistic and healthy approach to | :04:29. | :04:33. | |
this whole topic otherwise we are sleepwalking into self-destruction. | :04:33. | :04:36. | |
Islam was today described as suffering from a crisis in | :04:36. | :04:40. | |
masculinity. In which distorted views about women had been allowed | :04:40. | :04:47. | |
to develop unchallenged. So was the sermon a good idea? I'm very | :04:47. | :04:54. | |
impressed of the way he actually expressed the idea of sex and | :04:54. | :04:59. | |
sexuality among our youth and the fact that sometimes the community, | :04:59. | :05:02. | |
the Muslim community doesn't usually talk about sex. But he | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
actually expressed it, we are free to talk about it. To speak about it | :05:06. | :05:10. | |
but not in the mosque. I think it should be at a forum, go to the | :05:10. | :05:16. | |
schools, meetings and so on. And discuss it properly, but to come | :05:16. | :05:22. | |
into the mosque and what he's saying to me it is like, it is | :05:22. | :05:30. | |
tantermount to distortion. Street grooming is not something usually | :05:30. | :05:33. | |
spoken about in mosques during Friday prayers. Today many have | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
condemned it saying that it is wrong and society needs to work | :05:36. | :05:41. | |
harder to combat it. Some Muslims say it marks an important moment | :05:41. | :05:45. | |
and a shift in attitude in Islam, but for many others it is something | :05:45. | :05:49. | |
the religion has always spoken out against and ceremony Mondays like | :05:49. | :05:52. | |
this perhaps give the impression -- sermons like this perhaps give the | :05:52. | :05:57. | |
impression this is the first time it has been addressed. It seems it | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
assume that some how Muslims don't know this is a wicked and evil | :06:01. | :06:07. | |
crime. I mean from a very, very early age every Muslim is taught | :06:07. | :06:12. | |
that anything to do with sexual exploitation of children or alcohol | :06:12. | :06:18. | |
or drugs is, you know it is a sinful activity, and it is not | :06:18. | :06:24. | |
something that one should participate in. It is not clear how | :06:25. | :06:29. | |
many mosques delivered the sermon today. The language was certainly | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
bold, but there is no guarantee it will have reached those that need | :06:32. | :06:41. | |
to hear it most. We are joined now from Leeds by Alyas Karmani who | :06:41. | :06:47. | |
wrote today's sermon, and is also a Respect Councillor in Bradford. Can | :06:47. | :06:51. | |
you tell us roughly how many mosques read out this sermon? | :06:51. | :06:54. | |
we haven't got precise numbers but we know it is certainly in the | :06:54. | :06:58. | |
hundreds. If I can give you an example all present Imams were | :06:58. | :07:07. | |
urged to read the sermon today. That is just 200 Imams and we know | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
there were several hundred around the country. How many did read it | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
out? We have the got an exact number in that how many mosques did | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
it. We know there was overwhelming support. All the leading Islamic | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
umbrella organisations have endorsed the sermon, that is across | :07:23. | :07:26. | |
all denominations there is overwhelming support for the | :07:27. | :07:31. | |
project. This is a long-term project. Not just a one-off event. | :07:31. | :07:35. | |
The mosques who chose not to read it out, three out of four in Oxford | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
where the latest crimes were committed or the men were sentenced, | :07:39. | :07:42. | |
of the mosques which chose not to read it out, did they tell you why | :07:42. | :07:46. | |
they wouldn't read it out? I can understand in Oxford there are | :07:46. | :07:51. | |
sensitivites given the verdicts this week. But I think people have | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
to realign back on to the core issue. This is the fact that the | :07:55. | :08:00. | |
victims of this crime are children, 11, 12-year-olds whose lives have | :08:00. | :08:03. | |
been irrevocably destroyed. Sometimes we are forgetting that. | :08:03. | :08:07. | |
We can't be silent when it comes to child abuse, whatever community. If | :08:07. | :08:11. | |
anything the Koran is very explicit about the issues, about child | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
protection and protecting children from all kinds of abuse, whether it | :08:14. | :08:19. | |
is physical or sexual. That Muslims have to be proactive on this issue. | :08:19. | :08:21. | |
The mosque is the perfect place to have that discussion and the Friday | :08:21. | :08:25. | |
prayers is the perfect vehicle for that. Of course there has been some | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
criticisms. But I actually invite and I'm thinking it is really | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
positive that we are having this debate and this discussion and we | :08:32. | :08:37. | |
are all moving forward together. This is an issue that affects | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
everyone in society. It is not just a Muslim issue, that is really | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
important. We need to focus on the criminality, not faith, race and | :08:43. | :08:47. | |
culture. And Muslims are giving leadership and direction to many, | :08:47. | :08:52. | |
many other faith groups in society. A crime is a crime is a crime. Is | :08:52. | :08:57. | |
there a particular problem in your community? In certain sections of | :08:57. | :09:00. | |
the Muslim community due to organised crime groups, yes young | :09:00. | :09:05. | |
men from Muslim backgrounds then do get involved in this reprehensible | :09:05. | :09:09. | |
behaviour, but it is not unique of people of Muslim or south Asian | :09:09. | :09:13. | |
background, our work nationally identifies that the similar kind of | :09:13. | :09:18. | |
gangs operate in all cities and areas around the country, and | :09:18. | :09:20. | |
obviously the Children's Commissioner's report identified | :09:20. | :09:24. | |
that street grooming in inner city deprived areas as well as in leafy | :09:24. | :09:29. | |
suburbs, we all have to be vigilent in terms of identifying those | :09:29. | :09:34. | |
particular, that particular pattern. Your sermon was intended for a | :09:34. | :09:40. | |
particular community. Does that community have a particular | :09:40. | :09:44. | |
problem? Look I think you know we have to sub sume this into a bigger | :09:44. | :09:48. | |
issue. When we talk about crisis of masculinity, this isn't just around | :09:48. | :09:52. | |
Muslims, this is a global issue. How we are constructing masculinity | :09:52. | :09:56. | |
today in society. You know the World Health Organisation brought | :09:56. | :10:01. | |
out a report just recent low that identified one in three women | :10:01. | :10:04. | |
globally experienced sexual and physical violence, that is a global | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
epidemic that has been identified. It is the way that masculinity has | :10:08. | :10:16. | |
been constructed, based on extreme pat arky, misogyny, vie -- | :10:16. | :10:19. | |
patriarchy, misogyny, violence, it creates a rape culture, we are | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
seeing it in many parts of the world. It is not unique to Muslims | :10:23. | :10:27. | |
or people of Muslim background. me be quite explicit, I'm not | :10:27. | :10:31. | |
suggesting that for a second. We know this happens in all sorts of | :10:31. | :10:36. | |
communities, I'm asking you because you spoke to your community today, | :10:36. | :10:42. | |
or tried to, what particular problems there are you think in | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
your community? I think there are particular problems in the | :10:45. | :10:47. | |
Pakistani community and in the Muslim community. As I said they | :10:48. | :10:51. | |
are related to organised crime groups that are involved in drug | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
supply, trafficking, kidnapping and pimping. I think in areas where | :10:54. | :10:57. | |
there is large sections of the Muslim community we know it that | :10:57. | :11:01. | |
this behaviour takes place as your report said people were aware of | :11:01. | :11:04. | |
abuse in Oxford, yet they didn't do anything about it. One of the | :11:04. | :11:09. | |
strong messages we put out is where we know that abuse is taking place | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
we have got to speak about it. We have got to challenge it and we | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
have got to work with the agencies to make sure those individuals, | :11:15. | :11:20. | |
those criminals are obviously dealt with. Let me put this very bluntly, | :11:20. | :11:24. | |
this is an accusation I have heard in the white community. That is | :11:24. | :11:31. | |
that some how there are elements of your community, who think if it is | :11:31. | :11:36. | |
done to a white girl it is some how less of a crime? Well absolutely, | :11:36. | :11:40. | |
that is absolutely wrong, and if that view exists again that is why | :11:41. | :11:44. | |
we needed today's sermon to completely challenge that. I began | :11:44. | :11:50. | |
today's sermon by saying Islam digfies all human beings. These are | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
not someone else's, and the "other", they are our society and our | :11:54. | :11:57. | |
children. They are as valuable as our own children. That is the | :11:57. | :12:02. | |
attitude and values we have to get across. The other thing is by | :12:02. | :12:04. | |
creating these stereotypes of particular victims there are other | :12:04. | :12:10. | |
victims that become invisible in the whole process, Asian girls, | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
black girls are other etnisties have been victimised by this | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
terrible crime as well, that is why we have to be vigilent in terms of | :12:17. | :12:23. | |
projecting children. Much Thank you very much indeed. Now that nice | :12:23. | :12:27. | |
Emma Watson, Hermione from Harry Potter told the world today she | :12:27. | :12:35. | |
only had eight payers of shoes. In the -- pairs of shoes. In the 21st | :12:35. | :12:39. | |
century that is like having a hair shirt and whipping yourself on the | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
saints day. A film has just opened in the states called The Bling Ring, | :12:44. | :12:49. | |
Emma Watson is one of its stars. But the story of a gang of vapid | :12:49. | :12:54. | |
spoilt teenagers who break into the homes of their heros is said to | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
have caught part of the zeitgeist of the trivial amoral times in | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
which we now live. In a moment I will be talking to the author who | :13:02. | :13:07. | |
has tried to tell the story of The Bling Ring. Before that here is the | :13:07. | :13:17. | |
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shallowist man on television, Stephen Smith! Being famous for | :13:19. | :13:22. | |
being famous begins to look like a dig nationwide and hard-won | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
discipline when you see what comes next. Being famous for swiping the | :13:26. | :13:33. | |
clothes of the famous. I'm nick y, this is Sam. Oh my God it is Paris | :13:33. | :13:36. | |
Hilton. I think we wanted to be part of the lifestyle, the life | :13:36. | :13:40. | |
style that everybody kind of wants. But that is what happens when you | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
cross teenagers hooked on reality TV shows. Do you think we could | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
find a way in. With websites telling you where the stars live. | :13:48. | :13:54. | |
want to rob! Oh my God.That is a cute dress. Did you get a new | :13:54. | :14:01. | |
dress? It was one of those stranger than faction sales that hits the | :14:01. | :14:07. | |
zeitgeist at its sweet spot, the kids had been advertising their | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
criminal doings on Facebook, reality television and the media | :14:11. | :14:15. | |
itself, all wrapped up in a made for TV movie, that didn't exist yet | :14:15. | :14:21. | |
but it would. I watch a lot of the Kardashians and the Hills, and then | :14:21. | :14:24. | |
it was really trying to understand her psychology more than anything. | :14:24. | :14:30. | |
I thought the whole thing was so fascinating and contemporary the | :14:30. | :14:33. | |
story couldn't have happened ten years a I thought it was an | :14:33. | :14:36. | |
interesting story for a movie and said so much about our culture | :14:36. | :14:42. | |
today. I'm a firm believer in Karma. The teenage wannabes eventually | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
encountered the American judicial process in all its majesty, arrest, | :14:46. | :14:51. | |
charges, TV interviews. She went off the deepend. Please, this is my | :14:51. | :14:58. | |
interview! Fame became synonymous with wealth, success, popularity, | :14:58. | :15:03. | |
self-validation, and now the new generation, my teenage cousins all | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
want to be famous and everybody thinks they can be famous, and with | :15:06. | :15:11. | |
the rise of celebrities who are famous for being famous, like Paris | :15:11. | :15:16. | |
Hilton, there is no reason why these people can't think they can | :15:16. | :15:24. | |
be. Nancy Jo, this is Alexis calling. Sure enough one of The | :15:24. | :15:29. | |
Bling Ring went on to have a reality TV moment, calling the | :15:29. | :15:36. | |
journalist, Nancy Jo Sales to correct her on vital points of fact. | :15:36. | :15:46. | |
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Like saying I four six-inch heels from Loubtin, and my tweed shirt, I | :15:49. | :15:56. | |
wore four-inch heels. Every time you do that I have to re-record it. | :15:56. | :16:01. | |
Fading star Norma Desmond said she's still back and the movies | :16:01. | :16:06. | |
have got small, now the stars are small. At least one of The Bling | :16:06. | :16:13. | |
Ring gang gets it. Paris Hilton is famous for what, a sex tape? The | :16:13. | :16:18. | |
values and stuff America has is so wrong, people should focus on | :16:18. | :16:22. | |
politics and inventors and the important things. It shouldn't be | :16:22. | :16:24. | |
celebrity and people famous for doing things that isn't really | :16:24. | :16:32. | |
important and not helping society. Damn that is perfect, check it out. | :16:32. | :16:37. | |
Very sportingly Paris Hilton let film makers shoot in the very | :16:37. | :16:41. | |
boudoir where the bling ringers were light fringeered. She was | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
furious after the first few burglaries when she finally noticed | :16:44. | :16:50. | |
her stuff was missing. I live in a gated community, that wasn't enough, | :16:50. | :16:55. | |
so now I have set up laser systems everywhere and security cameras and | :16:55. | :16:58. | |
24-hour guards I'm very safe now. No more kids breaking in. I think | :16:58. | :17:02. | |
that also says a lot that these people get so much free stuff that | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
you can just rob them and they won't even notice. The only way the | :17:06. | :17:09. | |
celebrities started to notice is when the teenagers got carried away | :17:09. | :17:14. | |
and would make a mess in the houses and take everything in the closets. | :17:14. | :17:18. | |
Everything about this story reflects pretty poorly on America. | :17:18. | :17:24. | |
You can't steal her dog. But he likes me! We're joined now from New | :17:24. | :17:28. | |
York by Nancy Jo Sales, the Vanity Fair journalist who wrote about | :17:28. | :17:32. | |
those wannabe celebrities and has written the book The Bling Ring and | :17:32. | :17:38. | |
was the recipient of the absurd phone call of complaint. What do | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
you think these kids were doing, were they trying to harm their hero | :17:42. | :17:48. | |
or paying them homeage? I think they wanted their stuff! They | :17:48. | :17:51. | |
wanted to live the lifestyle of these celebrities and that involved | :17:51. | :17:56. | |
having the things that the celebrities had. So they were in a | :17:56. | :18:02. | |
sense paying them homeage. This is a belief that some how if you d | :18:02. | :18:05. | |
homeage, this is a belief that if you wear certain clothes you some | :18:05. | :18:10. | |
how become a celebrity, what? are growing up in an age when | :18:10. | :18:20. | |
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celebrity news, if you can call it that, has really exploded. We have | :18:24. | :18:29. | |
blogs 24- 7 and magazines, they are surrounded by images of celebrities | :18:29. | :18:32. | |
all the time. There is a value promoted by celebrity culture | :18:32. | :18:36. | |
saying this is great, this is the lifestyle we should all want to | :18:36. | :18:42. | |
live. You quoted in the piece that being said to me in my book. So I | :18:42. | :18:45. | |
think that where as every kid doesn't walk into a house and steal | :18:45. | :18:50. | |
their stuff. I think that not just in America, but I think in the | :18:50. | :18:56. | |
globalised celebrity culture that we do have, I think a lot of kids | :18:56. | :19:00. | |
are unhelpfully feeling these are things I must have in order to live | :19:00. | :19:03. | |
a good life. Why do you think they feel that. What is the void that it | :19:03. | :19:10. | |
some how would fill for them? I think that these things are | :19:10. | :19:14. | |
glamorised. We live in a very different time than say when I was | :19:14. | :19:18. | |
growing up and there were different values being promoted by television | :19:18. | :19:25. | |
shows and by movies. Now these kids have grown up with shows promoting | :19:25. | :19:32. | |
wealth and a luxury lifestyle and celebrity Gossip Girl, Entourage | :19:32. | :19:38. | |
The Hills, even shows for younger children, Hannah Montana seems to | :19:38. | :19:41. | |
glamorise the celebrity lifestyle being really great and we should | :19:41. | :19:46. | |
all want that. This is a real shift in our values that is really | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
affecting kids. There have always been celebrities, it didn't matter | :19:49. | :19:53. | |
once upon a time they were generals and other times they were sports | :19:53. | :19:56. | |
figures. Sometimes they were industrialists or other wealthy | :19:56. | :20:00. | |
figures. But there is a difference here in the sort of person who | :20:00. | :20:05. | |
becomes a celebrity, isn't there? think there is a bunch of | :20:05. | :20:08. | |
differences, one is that I just spoke about is the amount of | :20:08. | :20:12. | |
exposure to the stuff, to celebrity culture, and then I think there is | :20:12. | :20:16. | |
also a difference, as you say, in who becomes a celebrity. How the | :20:16. | :20:24. | |
celebrity and not celebrity. I mean people now are self-promoting on | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, all these different places, | :20:28. | :20:31. | |
that used to be the privvy of celebrities to promote your image | :20:31. | :20:38. | |
all the time. This is now what regular people are doing. With | :20:38. | :20:41. | |
reality TV there is this idea that anybody can become a celebrity. The | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
most successful shows on television ever are the celebrity contestant | :20:44. | :20:51. | |
shows like The Voice and American Idol, these are the most popular | :20:51. | :20:56. | |
shows in television history where you are watching fame happen in | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
real-time. People are absolutely fascinated. By this idea that this | :20:59. | :21:06. | |
could happen to me. There is a sort of circularity to it isn't there? | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
There certainly was in The Bling Ring story. These were kids who | :21:10. | :21:15. | |
wanted to be famous and idolise these other, not really much older | :21:15. | :21:19. | |
than kid like Paris and Lindsay who also really desperately wanted to | :21:19. | :21:23. | |
be famous, and had a lot of the same problems and the same lives | :21:23. | :21:26. | |
that these kids did. When I started to research the book I realised | :21:26. | :21:33. | |
there was a weird mirroring between the victims and the robbers. They | :21:33. | :21:39. | |
had a in common, actually. I said earlier this is a sort of tale of | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
our times, but I wonder actual le if we are already getting slightly | :21:43. | :21:49. | |
beyond the sort of world that is pictured in The Bling Ring, it is | :21:49. | :21:52. | |
almost yesterday's story. Is there any sign of that? I don't think so. | :21:52. | :21:56. | |
I think that Paris and Lindsay are the names connected with the story. | :21:56. | :21:59. | |
This only happened three years ago. But I think if you are talking | :21:59. | :22:03. | |
about celebrity culture it is only becoming more a part of our lives | :22:03. | :22:13. | |
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in the way that we all are sort of engaged in a celebrification of | :22:15. | :22:19. | |
ourselves all the time. I don't think my book or movie sells it at | :22:19. | :22:23. | |
all, these are things we need to talk about and I'm glad we are | :22:23. | :22:27. | |
talking about. Thank you very much indeed. Now to | :22:27. | :22:30. | |
Burma which in moving out of military rule with a terrible human | :22:30. | :22:33. | |
rights reputation has been generally seen as earning the right | :22:33. | :22:38. | |
to readmission to the community of nations. But since then ethnic | :22:38. | :22:41. | |
tensions have exploded in various places, especially in the south of | :22:41. | :22:45. | |
the country. The British have been running an overseas aid programme | :22:45. | :22:49. | |
to try to help many of the Rohingya people who are driven from their | :22:49. | :22:53. | |
homes in their fight. They are Muslims driven out by Buddhists. | :22:53. | :23:02. | |
And a year on, they are still displaced. The camps that sprang up | :23:02. | :23:09. | |
across this water-logged landscape a year ago are still there. As are | :23:09. | :23:15. | |
the people who fled to them, nearly all of them Rohingya Muslims. Last | :23:15. | :23:21. | |
year's sectarian fighting has a long history behind it. A legacy of | :23:21. | :23:26. | |
fear and discrimination that smoldered and of Burma's military | :23:26. | :23:30. | |
Governments. Many of the Buddhists, the majority are determined to | :23:30. | :23:35. | |
drive out the Rohingya, saying they don't belong. So they have been | :23:35. | :23:45. | |
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banished to the margins. Unwanted, unrecognised. At least the official | :23:46. | :23:50. | |
camps are getting help. The International Development Minister | :23:50. | :23:53. | |
Alan Duncan came last week to see how British aid is being spent and | :23:53. | :23:58. | |
to assess the prospects of reconciliation. The Rohingya were | :23:58. | :24:04. | |
quite clear about what they would like. TRANSLATION: We just want to | :24:04. | :24:12. | |
return to our homes. We want our old lives back. But the Burmese | :24:12. | :24:16. | |
authorities are just as clear that this won't happen. Strict | :24:16. | :24:23. | |
segregation, they say, is the safest option. It is a profoundly | :24:23. | :24:26. | |
unequal segregation, that denies only the Rohingya's freedom of | :24:26. | :24:30. | |
movement. But the Government argues that pressure from local Buddhists | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
has forced its hand. It is very easy to say the Government should | :24:34. | :24:38. | |
let as say give them citizenship, or treat them absolutely equally, | :24:38. | :24:44. | |
the trouble is we are looking at an indigenous Burmese population who, | :24:44. | :24:48. | |
I think, have an attitude which is going to take a long time to | :24:48. | :24:52. | |
overcome. They have got a sense of identity that doesn't easily | :24:52. | :24:58. | |
accommodate in comers, even though they have been here for generations. | :24:58. | :25:03. | |
The state capital is now an almost exclusively Buddhist town. | :25:03. | :25:12. | |
Rohingyas need permission to come here, few would dare any way. In | :25:12. | :25:16. | |
the town's main gym I watched young men training. Some are hoping to | :25:16. | :25:20. | |
represent their country when it hosts this year's south-east Asian | :25:20. | :25:24. | |
games. Another milestone on Burma's journey away from its former | :25:24. | :25:29. | |
isolation. But it is not a jouorny they are willing to share with | :25:29. | :25:34. | |
their one-time -- journey they are willing to share with their one- | :25:34. | :25:36. | |
time Muslim neighbours. TRANSLATION: It is not possible to | :25:36. | :25:41. | |
live with them, we don't want to. They invaded our country. It is not | :25:41. | :25:48. | |
just me saying this, if you ask any rakine Buddhist, they would say the | :25:48. | :25:57. | |
same thing. These are the last Rohingyas living inside the town, | :25:57. | :26:00. | |
they are barred from leaving so they have no access to work, food | :26:00. | :26:04. | |
or medical treatment almost. They are in fact imprisoned in what has | :26:04. | :26:10. | |
become a Rohingya ghetto. We were the first foreigners allowed into | :26:10. | :26:13. | |
the town for several weeks. And those who do get out cannot come | :26:13. | :26:23. | |
back. This man is one of the most outspoken Rohingya leaders. A I met | :26:23. | :26:26. | |
him last year when still living in the ghetto. But after being | :26:26. | :26:32. | |
arrested in February he fled here to the outskirts of town. Nearly | :26:32. | :26:38. | |
five months I was separated from my family. That is your wife?Also in | :26:38. | :26:43. | |
the ghetto. So I'm very sorrowful because my own father is 95 years | :26:43. | :26:50. | |
old. So I want to meet him, you know. You didn't get permission?I | :26:50. | :26:58. | |
didn't get permission from the security forces. We travelled two | :26:58. | :27:01. | |
hours north of the town to see how more isolated Muslim communities | :27:01. | :27:09. | |
are coping. Here this ter greatly out-- here they are greatly | :27:09. | :27:15. | |
outnumbered by rakine Buddhists and the tension has increased to | :27:15. | :27:19. | |
violence. This is the last of a ring of Buddhist villages that | :27:19. | :27:23. | |
completely surround a single Muslim community, it is just ahead of us | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
and it leaves the Muslims there completely isolated, cut off and | :27:27. | :27:36. | |
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unable to move. The Rohingyas who live here say their village dates | :27:37. | :27:43. | |
back 200 years. They are not, they insist, illegal Bengali immigrant, | :27:43. | :27:51. | |
as most Burmese buddists believe. Ali has been designated the | :27:51. | :27:54. | |
village's medical expert, he's not a doctor. He claimed how the | :27:54. | :27:58. | |
clashes last year had affected his commune toe. They lost all their | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
livestock, he said, and their boats. And now they can't travel, even to | :28:02. | :28:11. | |
reach a clinic or hospital. 18- year-old Morianne has been | :28:11. | :28:14. | |
seriously ill sense the birth of had her son six months ago. Her | :28:14. | :28:18. | |
house was burnt down in the violence and her husband is among | :28:18. | :28:26. | |
170 men from the village who have been imprisoned since the clashes. | :28:26. | :28:30. | |
TRANSLATION: Please someone help cure me from this pain, I have no | :28:30. | :28:35. | |
husband, no money, no-one to care for me. | :28:35. | :28:39. | |
Among the many difficulty these villagers face was the one that all | :28:39. | :28:48. | |
Rohingyas complain about, their lack of citizenship. TRANSLATION: | :28:48. | :28:54. | |
This is so important for us because without proper ID kartdz we can't | :28:54. | :28:58. | |
go anywhere, not even -- cards we can't go anywhere, not even in our | :28:58. | :29:03. | |
own states. We have been given white ID cards but with those we | :29:03. | :29:07. | |
get arrested. There are Buddhists too who suffered last year, who | :29:07. | :29:12. | |
lost their homes. Their numbers are small, the Government has built | :29:12. | :29:19. | |
solid new houses for them to move in to in time for the rainy season. | :29:19. | :29:23. | |
It is in stark contrast to the way the displaced Rohingyas, more than | :29:23. | :29:29. | |
130,000 of them still have to live. An injustice that must cast doubt | :29:29. | :29:35. | |
on the hopes of a better future for this country. | :29:35. | :29:40. | |
Now the Arctic Monkeys, like many of you are waiting for me to shut | :29:40. | :29:45. | |
up so they can start at Glastonbury, we will leave you with something | :29:45. | :29:49. | |
more ethereal. Some of the entrance in the royal observe trees | :29:49. | :29:59. | |
:29:59. | :30:02. | ||
Astronomer of the Year. -- some of the entries for the Royal | :30:02. | :30:12. | |
:30:12. | :30:32. | ||
Observatory's Astronomer of the More cloud than sunshine it has to | :30:32. | :30:34. | |
More cloud than sunshine it has to be said on Saturday. Patchy light | :30:35. | :30:37. | |
rain into Scotland and drizzle into the North West of England and Wales | :30:38. | :30:43. | |
too. Conditions will improve in Northern Ireland but any sunshine | :30:44. | :30:47. | |
will be late in the day. The rain in Scotland will push to eastern | :30:47. | :30:51. | |
areas of the country. We could see low cloud and drizzle coming into | :30:51. | :30:54. | |
the North West of England. Chiefly the Cumbrian fells and always | :30:54. | :30:58. | |
brighter and that bit warmer to the east of the Pennines, in East | :30:58. | :31:01. | |
Anglia we will see a little sunshine at times, it will feel | :31:02. | :31:05. | |
pleasant, 21 not out of the question, it should be dry at | :31:05. | :31:09. | |
Wimbledon as well. We will see a little sunshine now and again in | :31:09. | :31:13. | |
the south west of England, there will be times where we will have | :31:13. | :31:17. | |
low cloud, drizzle for western parts of Wales later on in the day. | :31:17. | :31:20. | |
Brighter skies remaining towards the east. If we look elsewhere | :31:20. | :31:24. | |
across Europe it has been rather cool across central Europe, maybe | :31:24. | :31:28. | |
warming up a touch for our city forecasts by the end of the weekend. | :31:28. | :31:33. | |
The hot weather has been across Spain and Portugal and likely to | :31:33. | :31:37. | |
remain there. 38 degrees in Lisbon. We will warm up on Sunday, not as | :31:37. | :31:40. |