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Once again the people whose job it is to started start once again the | :00:14. | :00:21. | |
people whose job it is to pro-- -- protect the children have failed | :00:21. | :00:27. | |
miserably. The man who is sent in tells us it has highlighted a | :00:27. | :00:30. | |
crisis in social services. They are overwhelmed and there is nothing | :00:30. | :00:34. | |
that I can see that suggests this will not be getting more of a | :00:34. | :00:38. | |
difficulty. I'm really worried And he's here tonight to discuss | :00:38. | :00:42. | |
what might be done to stop other children being murdered. | :00:42. | :00:46. | |
Also tonight on the streets of Cairo protesters supporting the | :00:46. | :00:51. | |
ousted Islamist Government refuse orders by the army to leave. The | :00:51. | :00:56. | |
stand-off between Egypt's generals and supporters of the former | :00:56. | :01:00. | |
President continues, can it really be resolved in such a way that | :01:00. | :01:05. | |
leaves any hope for elections? A new set of peers announced today | :01:05. | :01:09. | |
will join the already overstuffed House of Lords and it seems being | :01:09. | :01:14. | |
on a certain nightly news programme might have swung it for a cop of | :01:14. | :01:19. | |
them. People probably saw --A couple of them. People saw me maybe | :01:19. | :01:23. | |
doing strategic thinking and maybe thought I would play a role in the | :01:23. | :01:27. | |
House of Lords. It is not us just making a joke of it, do you think | :01:27. | :01:33. | |
it had something to do with it? is mainly you making a joke of it. | :01:33. | :01:39. | |
And the election in Iran was supposed to thau relations between | :01:39. | :01:44. | |
the west, but the screws have been tightened further. We ask his | :01:44. | :01:50. | |
right-hand man what we can expect of the new regime on the eve of the | :01:50. | :02:00. | |
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President's swearing in. They turned Daniel from a bright- | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
eyed little boy into a bag of bones, they basically broke him in so many | :02:06. | :02:10. | |
ways. The words of a senior officer responsible for the investigation | :02:10. | :02:16. | |
into the death of four-year-old Daniel Pelka. Today it was said the | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
horrific catalogue of abuse should be on everyone's conscience. This | :02:19. | :02:25. | |
was a little boy who went to school as he was being starved, force-fed | :02:25. | :02:31. | |
salt, beaten, held under water in his bath, and looked in a cold | :02:31. | :02:35. | |
empty room at night. Tonight Newsnight talks to a man about | :02:35. | :02:41. | |
where the failures in the social care system lie, and the system | :02:41. | :02:45. | |
that is supposed to protect children, and his prognosis is very | :02:45. | :02:49. | |
worrying indeed. We have this report. | :02:49. | :02:53. | |
He was starved and beaten on a regular basis, he was imprisoned in | :02:53. | :02:57. | |
a box room, he was drowned to the point of unconsciousness on | :02:57. | :03:02. | |
occasion, he was also poisoned with salt. So yes an absolutely wretched | :03:02. | :03:07. | |
existence for this little boy. There is no shortage of | :03:07. | :03:13. | |
horrorifying descriptions of Daniel Pelka's suffering, or disbelief | :03:13. | :03:17. | |
that so many opportunities were missed to intervene. In the 14 | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
months before his death there were visits to his home by social | :03:20. | :03:24. | |
workers, health workers and teachers. There was a police | :03:24. | :03:30. | |
investigation and three weeks before he died he was examined by a | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
paediatrician. I think testifies one-and-a-half stone. Today began a | :03:33. | :03:38. | |
search for answers. And the inevitable finger-pointing. I think | :03:38. | :03:45. | |
his death should be on all of our consciences. You are in a unique | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
position, what should the Government be doing? What we have | :03:48. | :03:53. | |
done already is get rid of a lot of complexity and bureaucracy that we | :03:53. | :03:57. | |
worried might have meant that cases were not picked up earlier. | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
Everybody knew but nobody did anybody about it. Nobody felt they | :04:00. | :04:04. | |
were directly responsible for it and that it was their job that they | :04:04. | :04:07. | |
were paid for to put it right to do something about it. That's what | :04:07. | :04:12. | |
went wrong. Coventry's child services department is now subject | :04:12. | :04:15. | |
to an official review for its handling of this case. But it is | :04:15. | :04:21. | |
not alone in facing scrutiny. According to Ofsted one in four of | :04:21. | :04:25. | |
the country's child protection units are failing. Ray Jones is the | :04:25. | :04:29. | |
man Ofsted sends in to work with councils struggling to cope. He can | :04:29. | :04:35. | |
see how social workers in Coventry might have missed things. This is | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
my concern, that people don't have the time at the moment to find out | :04:39. | :04:42. | |
what they need to find out. We don't get to know what we need to | :04:42. | :04:47. | |
know. People are rushing from case- to-case, family-to-family, child- | :04:47. | :04:51. | |
to-child, trying to close the ones down that we think maybe that is OK, | :04:51. | :04:55. | |
but we're not sure but we can't stick with it because we have to | :04:55. | :04:59. | |
make space for new referrals and notifications. So, yes, with what | :04:59. | :05:03. | |
we know now people would have clearly done different things. But | :05:03. | :05:06. | |
it is understandable for me in terms of the pressure the system is | :05:07. | :05:11. | |
under why people don't necessarily know what they need to know. In the | :05:11. | :05:15. | |
last five years the number of children in the child protection | :05:15. | :05:19. | |
system has increased. Child protection orders have gone up by | :05:19. | :05:24. | |
47%, while care proceedings, which is when social services apply to a | :05:24. | :05:29. | |
court for a child to be taken into care have gone up 64%. And the | :05:29. | :05:36. | |
number of children ending up in care has increased by 13%. Ray | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
Jones reports regularly to the Children's Minister, and this is | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
what he has been telling him. the council has put in some more | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
resources, money, by taking money from elsewhere, finding it | :05:46. | :05:50. | |
increasingly difficult to do that because the public sector | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
expenditure cuts. But they are all doing it in a context where they | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
are struggling to keep up with the demand coming through the front | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
door. They can't recruit enough social workers to stay around to | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
make sure they know the families who they need to know well. Is the | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
Children's Minister listening? minister replies to me in terms of | :06:08. | :06:11. | |
thanking me for my letters. I appreciate that he will have read | :06:11. | :06:15. | |
the letter and civil servants will have read the letter, do I see it | :06:15. | :06:18. | |
getting better on the ground? No, I see increasing poverty for families, | :06:18. | :06:23. | |
I see increasing pressure and difficulty for coping with work | :06:23. | :06:27. | |
loads for social workers and police officers and paediatricians. I see | :06:27. | :06:30. | |
nothing at the moment which suggests to me that it is going to | :06:30. | :06:39. | |
get better rather than worse. According to the NSPCC it is a | :06:39. | :06:42. | |
recuring theme of child abuse cases that people notice something is | :06:42. | :06:47. | |
wrong, but shy away from getting involved. Why do you think it is | :06:47. | :06:53. | |
that people don't come forward? is a lack of confidence a kind of | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
reticence about getting involved in someone else's business, I suppose. | :06:56. | :07:01. | |
It is quite a big thing to comment on what another person's child | :07:01. | :07:09. | |
might be experiencing, and yet if you have the courage to speak up | :07:09. | :07:16. | |
you could be saving a child's life. Daniel Pelka will not be the only | :07:16. | :07:20. | |
little boy to die as a result of abuse this year. More than 50 | :07:20. | :07:26. | |
children are likely to be killed by those meant to be caring for them. | :07:26. | :07:30. | |
Watching that with me in the studio is ray Jones, who you saw in that | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
film, also we have the chief executive of the children's charity | :07:35. | :07:42. | |
Action for Children, and councillor David Simmonds, Chair of the Local | :07:42. | :07:44. | |
Government Association Children and Young People Board. Ray if I may | :07:45. | :07:54. | |
start with you, Victoria Climbe, Baby Peter Connelly, how many times | :07:54. | :07:58. | |
do we have to have the same soul- destroying conversations? We have | :07:58. | :08:03. | |
had them a lot for the last 40 years, we can go back to 1943 and | :08:03. | :08:10. | |
the first story was about Maria Colewell in Brighton. Every year | :08:10. | :08:15. | |
50-70 children are dying because of neglect by parents or carers. It is | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
there every day for people doing child protection. It only hits the | :08:18. | :08:22. | |
public attention from time to time. But I'm afraid it is the working | :08:22. | :08:25. | |
experience of people trying to protect children that sometimes | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
they are not able to do so. thing is we are promised so much | :08:28. | :08:34. | |
when a high-profile case takes place, and post- Baby P and all the | :08:34. | :08:37. | |
attention that was diverted, we were assured that problems had been | :08:37. | :08:41. | |
fixed, we were assured that there would be early intervention, what | :08:41. | :08:47. | |
happened with that? There are, it is not an unremittingly grim story, | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
there have been some improvements across the system. But we have a | :08:50. | :08:55. | |
real worry about what's happening on early intervention. Eileen Munro | :08:55. | :08:59. | |
made a clear recommendation in her very good report that a duty should | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
be introduced for local authorities on early intervention. That wasn't | :09:02. | :09:06. | |
followed up by the Government. The recommendation of also supported by | :09:06. | :09:09. | |
the Select Committee that reported last year, that was a huge missed | :09:09. | :09:13. | |
opportunity. As was said, at a time when resores are incredibly tight | :09:13. | :09:16. | |
and local authorities are having to cut back and need is going up, | :09:17. | :09:22. | |
there needs to be something positive in place to help local | :09:22. | :09:26. | |
authorities to commission services specifically for early intervention. | :09:26. | :09:29. | |
Just under 40% of children, in different parts of the UK, will | :09:29. | :09:32. | |
present and are first registered for child protection purposes | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
because of neglect. We know we can make a huge difference in the lives | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
of children if we can intervene early enough. You just mentioned | :09:39. | :09:43. | |
funding there, but I'm just looking at the number of interventions that | :09:43. | :09:48. | |
took place in this case, January 2011, Daniel has a broken arm, | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
February 2011, fails to turn up for a follow-up appointment, March 2011 | :09:53. | :09:57. | |
police visit the home. June 2011 social services close the file. | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
July 2011 a health worker visit, I'm not even half way through this | :10:01. | :10:06. | |
list. There were plenty of people involved in this, there didn't seem | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
to be a want of personnel. There was a want of action, David | :10:10. | :10:13. | |
Simmonds? You are absolutely right. Mums and dads up and down the | :10:13. | :10:16. | |
country will be looking at the coverage of this appalling case and | :10:16. | :10:20. | |
thinking how can this go on in a family without it being noticed and | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
stopped. You are absolutely right to highlight funding. It was | :10:24. | :10:27. | |
noticed, they won't be asking that, it was noticed by a number of | :10:27. | :10:31. | |
people? As well as the resources in the system to deal with a very | :10:31. | :10:34. | |
large increase in the number of children needing help, we also need | :10:34. | :10:37. | |
to make sure there is a real shared culture of responsibility among | :10:37. | :10:40. | |
councils and among schools and the police working together to sort | :10:40. | :10:44. | |
this out. I think everybody will accept that we all should be | :10:44. | :10:47. | |
working together to stop children being killed by those who wish them | :10:47. | :10:53. | |
harm. What people will want to know is why on these 11 interactions | :10:53. | :10:58. | |
with police, with teachers, with healthcare professionals, did | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
nobody yank that child out of that hell and save his life? In the | :11:02. | :11:05. | |
areas of the country where this is working well somebody would have | :11:05. | :11:08. | |
done, quite possibly the very first time that child came through the | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
door of a children's centre or GPs' surgery, somebody would have said | :11:12. | :11:16. | |
something is wrong here and I would deal with it. The issue we have is | :11:16. | :11:20. | |
we are not as a country consistently as good as we need to | :11:20. | :11:24. | |
be. There are some parts of the system where the it is creeking and | :11:24. | :11:28. | |
it needs to be better. You look at where it is not better, why is it | :11:28. | :11:32. | |
not working? I think, to be honest it is not working as well as we | :11:32. | :11:36. | |
want anywhere. My reason for saying that is I'm not sure that what was | :11:36. | :11:41. | |
known about Daniel at the time in a lot of places would have triggered | :11:41. | :11:45. | |
an urgent response to take action on his behalf. What we now know we | :11:46. | :11:49. | |
know through the criminal trial and through drilling down on what was | :11:49. | :11:52. | |
happening for Daniel and his family as one case, when we know that a | :11:52. | :11:57. | |
child had died. I'm not sure how Daniel stood up from other children | :11:57. | :12:01. | |
within that school or whatever. That's a devastating thing to say | :12:01. | :12:05. | |
about a boy who was picking refuse out of a dustbin because he was | :12:05. | :12:09. | |
starving. You are telling me that there are other children doing that | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
who are not going through abuse? I'm telling you within that school, | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
I would suspect, although I don't know, there were other children | :12:15. | :12:18. | |
coming to school who were hungry and who didn't have all the | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
clothing they needed. Daniel wasn't coming through a family suffering | :12:22. | :12:25. | |
severe deprivation and poverty. There would be other children who | :12:26. | :12:29. | |
were. As a consequence of that two things, one is he may not have | :12:29. | :12:34. | |
stood out as much as we now think he does when the story is told at | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
this point in time. Secondly, even if the school did see that he was | :12:37. | :12:40. | |
in a special situation that needed urgent action, getting that urgent | :12:40. | :12:43. | |
action taken by social services and police officers, who are already up | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
to their neck dealing with even more urgent actions for children in | :12:47. | :12:50. | |
immediate danger, sometimes schools can't get the response they need. | :12:50. | :12:55. | |
Let's talk about schools, we heard one of the teachers break down | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
while giving evidence. It is an awful thing, you saw a child reduce | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
and reduce and reduce and you now know that child is no longer with | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
us. What is going on at the school level at the teacher level? Why | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
isn't there a clearer shout that goes out from the classroom? It is | :13:10. | :13:15. | |
really difficult talking about this particular case. Let's talk more | :13:15. | :13:22. | |
general lean? I do -- generally? I do think there are huge issues for | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
teachers in many of the ways ray says. We did some research a couple | :13:27. | :13:31. | |
of years ago where we asked non- social care professionals about how | :13:31. | :13:35. | |
confident they felt in intervening in case of neglect. What was really | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
interesting is 40% were coming back and saying they didn't know quite | :13:39. | :13:42. | |
what to do with it. They weren't quite sure it would be escalated up | :13:43. | :13:46. | |
sufficiently, about 44% of the teachers, very is specifically said | :13:46. | :13:49. | |
they didn't know what to do when they were finding resistance from | :13:49. | :13:53. | |
parents. They didn't necessarily feel they had the skills or the | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
authority or the links with other professionals to do something about | :13:56. | :14:00. | |
it. That is a real concern because of the huge amount of pressure now | :14:00. | :14:02. | |
being put on teachers because of the cutbacks we are talking about. | :14:03. | :14:07. | |
That falls in your lap in that case? Very much so, from a council | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
perspective the key things we are seeking to do is firstly to make | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
sure we have a balance of staff with both the quality, but the | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
experience to pick up these issues. Secondly, at the social services | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
end that Ray has talked about, where matters are brought up we | :14:19. | :14:23. | |
will deal with them quickly. I have spoken to head teachers with | :14:23. | :14:26. | |
children who haven't had breakfast coming to school, once is a concern, | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
but if it is happening every day it is triggering inquiries. You are | :14:30. | :14:34. | |
saying it is a general feeling happening over time. It means there | :14:34. | :14:39. | |
is a systemic failure, one which you look to David to sort out. | :14:39. | :14:43. | |
the teachers we spoke to that was a very striking finding. Then deal | :14:43. | :14:46. | |
with that, this is a general impression, this is not a few | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
teachers who are saying we didn't know what to do, this is a pevasive | :14:49. | :14:55. | |
feeling we are hearing from Clare? It is a consistent issue brought up | :14:55. | :14:59. | |
in a number of child protection cases and the serious cases you | :14:59. | :15:03. | |
described. Is it the training and confidence that you are not giving | :15:03. | :15:07. | |
to your staff? It is a combination of factors, schools are autonomous, | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
they are largely responsible for what goes on behind closed doors. | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
The key thing to make sure is teachers when they are trained and | :15:13. | :15:16. | |
first coming into the classroom through their careers are able to | :15:16. | :15:19. | |
deal with these issues when they come forward. In this case the | :15:19. | :15:23. | |
teacher did take it further. Let's deal with it very briefly the | :15:23. | :15:26. | |
dealing with it further, because the teachers did make a noise about | :15:26. | :15:31. | |
this, teachers are making a noise about it, it gets lost then in some | :15:31. | :15:36. | |
kind of Labyrinth afterwards, what needs to be done to sort that out? | :15:36. | :15:39. | |
Let's look at the system in context, we have one of the best child | :15:39. | :15:42. | |
protection systems in the developed world. This keeps coming up as a | :15:42. | :15:46. | |
problem. There are a couple of things we can do to fix it. We need | :15:46. | :15:50. | |
to firstly understand the detail. The Serious Case Review will show | :15:50. | :15:53. | |
what went wrong and at what point. From that we need to identify the | :15:53. | :15:57. | |
actions. You have the ear of the minister, what do you want him to | :15:57. | :16:01. | |
do, if he's listening now, what do you want him to do right now? | :16:01. | :16:04. | |
not sure I have the ear to the minister, politics is a difficult | :16:04. | :16:07. | |
job. I'm concerned about the increasing difficulty that some | :16:07. | :16:11. | |
parents are having parenting well, not malicious parents like Daniel's | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
parents, parents are becoming more poor and destitute and just can't | :16:14. | :16:18. | |
do what they want to do for their children. I'm concerned about the | :16:18. | :16:22. | |
blame culture. And we have heard to from the local MP in Coventry the | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
demand that people lose their jobs. That is not helpful, these are | :16:26. | :16:30. | |
dedicated people doing a difficult job in distressing circumstances, | :16:30. | :16:34. | |
we need more not less of them. To take people off the pitch when they | :16:34. | :16:36. | |
are very experienced is not a good idea actually. | :16:36. | :16:40. | |
Thank you very much. The stand-off continues in Cairo tonight as | :16:40. | :16:45. | |
supporters of deposed Mohamed Morsi defy the army's order to move out | :16:45. | :16:50. | |
of their protest camps. Since the military ousted Mr Morsi on the 3rd | :16:50. | :16:53. | |
July, police have been rounding up his fellow leaders from the Muslim | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
Brotherhood, and charging them with incitement to violence. Despite | :16:56. | :17:00. | |
being voted in as Egypt's first democratically elected Government, | :17:00. | :17:05. | |
with its hierarchy in tatters is there any way back for Egypt's | :17:05. | :17:14. | |
Islamist party. As the heat of the Ramadan days | :17:14. | :17:20. | |
eases, the political temperature rises at Rabaa al-Adawiya. | :17:20. | :17:23. | |
Thousands come to demonstrate their support for the Muslim Brotherhood, | :17:23. | :17:27. | |
and to bolster those who remain here all the time, activists who | :17:28. | :17:32. | |
are ready to sacrifice everything. We want to die really, we want to | :17:32. | :17:41. | |
die for our freedom. That's history, we are writing history now. | :17:41. | :17:46. | |
Dozens have already died here, it is the fallen who are extoled at | :17:46. | :17:55. | |
evening demonstrations. Martyrs be happy, chants the boy, and wait for | :17:55. | :18:00. | |
us at the gates of heaven. And this sacrifice makes it even harder for | :18:00. | :18:04. | |
the party to stomach the humiliation of being turned out of | :18:05. | :18:11. | |
power one month ago. The Muslim Brotherhood leadership | :18:11. | :18:15. | |
still demands the clock be turned back. Mr Morsi now is our President | :18:15. | :18:23. | |
for his term, four years, ending after three years. But he can go to | :18:23. | :18:29. | |
another election in another term or not. It is a matter of democracy. | :18:29. | :18:35. | |
Democracy means respect of the institution. You cannot go to Mr | :18:35. | :18:42. | |
Hollande now in France who is having a low score of public | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
opinion about 25, and generals saying we want you out because you | :18:46. | :18:49. | |
are not popular. This is not democracy at all. The Brotherhood | :18:49. | :18:54. | |
strove for power for decades once they got it they angered many | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
Egyptians who felt they put part interests ahead of national unity. | :18:57. | :19:02. | |
Now their enemies abuse them of provoking violence to keep the | :19:02. | :19:08. | |
country tottering. I know for a fact that the | :19:08. | :19:10. | |
Government and security organisations in Egypt doesn't want | :19:10. | :19:15. | |
to deal with it the hard way, they want to deal with it the easy way. | :19:15. | :19:20. | |
I'm not sure the other party wants the same thing or not. I believe | :19:20. | :19:24. | |
they want to do it the hard way. I'm a talking about the Muslim | :19:24. | :19:28. | |
Brotherhood, to do it the hard way. Because again they want, they are | :19:28. | :19:32. | |
very good in that by the way, they are very good at talking to the | :19:32. | :19:34. | |
international media and the international community. They want | :19:34. | :19:39. | |
to look in front of them as the victims, and more blood, and they | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
are killing us and all this kind of stuff. They will not accept the | :19:42. | :19:46. | |
easy way. I'm sure they will provoke the police in order for | :19:46. | :19:50. | |
them, they will shoot them first, kill someone and retaliate, and | :19:50. | :19:54. | |
then you will see more blood. That is what they want. | :19:54. | :19:59. | |
Yesterday's Government pledged to clear the camp wasn't the first. | :19:59. | :20:04. | |
Mornings here are a time for quiet and reflection. The Ramadan fast | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
prohibits eating and drinking during daylight. Many spend the | :20:08. | :20:16. | |
night up and sleep during the morning. Not Hossein Mousavi, he's | :20:16. | :20:22. | |
29, well educated -- Ali, he is 29, well educated and a father. He | :20:22. | :20:27. | |
feels the stakes couldn't be higher. We will lose our life, we know that, | :20:27. | :20:30. | |
we have no problem with that, what we are looking for is very | :20:30. | :20:34. | |
expensive, you know, it is our freedom, our President, our country, | :20:34. | :20:38. | |
our democracy. It is very, very expensive. Our life doesn't mean | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
for that. We are looking for a good life for our children and our sons. | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
But this isn't just about a battle of wills, it is also a contest of | :20:47. | :20:52. | |
nerve and guile. There are limits on both sides. From a purely | :20:52. | :20:57. | |
military point of view this area is pretty indefensible, you have got | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
broad avenues of approach, from the west, and off to the north, where | :21:01. | :21:05. | |
there are substantial military forces just waiting. There are also | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
military installations inside this area controlled by the brotherhood | :21:09. | :21:14. | |
that might allow them a pretext to come in. But of course coming in | :21:14. | :21:19. | |
here in force could cause a huge loss of life, and the symbolic | :21:19. | :21:23. | |
importance of doing something that would defile this mosque couldn't | :21:23. | :21:28. | |
be underestimated too. So it is a thorny dilemma for the country's | :21:28. | :21:34. | |
military rulers. And while the authorities ponder just how to end | :21:34. | :21:38. | |
this stalemate soldiers stationed around the mosque keep watch on the | :21:38. | :21:43. | |
Cummings and goings. Many local people would rather it | :21:44. | :21:53. | |
was all over. Not far away this woman watched the Muslim | :21:53. | :22:00. | |
Brotherhood protests with disgust. We heard that some of the Muslim | :22:00. | :22:10. | |
:22:10. | :22:10. | ||
Brotherhood are coming with stuff to have violence. Like many | :22:10. | :22:13. | |
liberal-minded Egyptians, she welcomed the overthrow of President | :22:13. | :22:21. | |
Morsi, and wants the Brotherhood removed but without violence if | :22:21. | :22:24. | |
possible. I hope that they will work it out and know that Morsi | :22:24. | :22:29. | |
will never come back. And they are part of this society and this | :22:29. | :22:36. | |
country and they have and we keep telling them one day after another | :22:36. | :22:46. | |
for the young men, from the Muslim Brotherhood, to go home. There is | :22:46. | :22:54. | |
also cold comfort for the Brotherhood away from urban Cairo. | :22:54. | :22:59. | |
Manzura is a Nile delta town where Islamic parties have done well | :22:59. | :23:03. | |
electorally. But even here many support the general who toppled the | :23:03. | :23:12. | |
President, and the Brotherhood's rival the Salafist party stand to | :23:12. | :23:16. | |
benefit in elections. We went to speak to their national spokesman | :23:16. | :23:19. | |
who explained the party's position in terms of President Morsi's | :23:19. | :23:24. | |
catalogue of errors. TRANSLATION: We realiseded if Morsi | :23:24. | :23:29. | |
were to continue in power it would be a problem. How could he govern | :23:29. | :23:34. | |
under these circumstances? So we advised the President ahead of June | :23:34. | :23:40. | |
30th. We suggested some political solutions for the situation we had | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
recognised the dangers of division. We suggested an initiative to | :23:44. | :23:50. | |
change the Government and the head of the Supreme Court. But no-one | :23:50. | :23:56. | |
took our initiative seriously. the Brotherhood finds itself | :23:56. | :24:00. | |
asailed from both sides of the political spectrum. It is one thing | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
for the protesters to promise a fight to the death, but the numbers | :24:04. | :24:09. | |
turning up here are down. As the sun dipped and people ended their | :24:09. | :24:15. | |
day's Ramadan fast, some told us off camera Morsi's fate is less | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
important than political survival. Even their spokesman, while | :24:19. | :24:23. | |
demanding the deposed President's return, wouldn't close the door on | :24:23. | :24:28. | |
taking part in elections later this year. Nobody can go to the ballot | :24:28. | :24:35. | |
under these circumstances. No security, the economy is destroyed, | :24:35. | :24:42. | |
tourism is now no tourists and the people are not convinced at all by | :24:42. | :24:48. | |
this civilian Government. That sound like a boycott? Not boycott, | :24:48. | :24:54. | |
we are looking to restore democracy, that means respect of the choices | :24:55. | :24:59. | |
of the people, not cancelling it by tanks. The military says it wants | :24:59. | :25:04. | |
to see the Muslim Brotherhood running in elections, but that | :25:04. | :25:08. | |
"will they won't they"? Is part of a bigger negotiation about | :25:08. | :25:12. | |
restoring democracy. Whether these people are shifted from here by | :25:12. | :25:17. | |
violence or apathy, the question will remain as to whether the | :25:17. | :25:20. | |
Muslim Brotherhood's brand of politics can be reconciled with | :25:20. | :25:24. | |
democracy on the terms that the Egyptian military will allow it. | :25:24. | :25:31. | |
All sorts of issues from the future freedom of ex-President Morsi, to | :25:31. | :25:35. | |
the possible boycott of elections by the Brotherhood, will be bar | :25:35. | :25:39. | |
againing chips in trying to reconcile the apparently | :25:39. | :25:44. | |
irreconcilable. Going in now might appeal to some | :25:44. | :25:48. | |
hardline generals, but few think they can abolish the Muslim | :25:48. | :25:53. | |
Brotherhood in what it stands for. And here too their fast ended, the | :25:53. | :25:57. | |
party's supporters have a profound faith that their political struggle | :25:57. | :26:03. | |
must go on. That will be a bit of a squeeze on | :26:03. | :26:09. | |
the benches, as 30 new peers prepare to join the 755 active | :26:09. | :26:14. | |
members already in the House of Lords. Among those elevated in | :26:14. | :26:18. | |
today's announcement, Doreen Lawrence, mother of the murdered | :26:18. | :26:24. | |
teenager, Stephen Lawrence, Anthony Bamford, hid of the JCB form. And | :26:24. | :26:28. | |
Brian Paddick, former Chief Constable. There were a couple of | :26:28. | :26:33. | |
names that viewers of Newsnight might be, common as muck David | :26:33. | :26:38. | |
Grossman reports. They are all with us now, Olly Grender the woman who | :26:38. | :26:41. | |
plugged Vince Cable into the grid, and the sage of Pinner, Danny | :26:41. | :26:46. | |
Finkelstein. Now we know the quickest way to a seat in the Lords | :26:46. | :26:51. | |
is via a seat on the no less prestigious Newsnight panel, | :26:51. | :26:57. | |
delivering sage words to the British public since 2007. Olly | :26:57. | :27:00. | |
Grender for the Liberal Democrats and Danny Finkelstein for the | :27:00. | :27:03. | |
Conservatives created live peers today. I went to talk to them to | :27:03. | :27:08. | |
talk about their new role. Unfortunately we had transfor the | :27:08. | :27:13. | |
issues. I'm really sorry, I'm here now. Danny's cab went not to the | :27:13. | :27:18. | |
House of Lords but Lord's. I can't see you, where are you? Stay where | :27:18. | :27:23. | |
you are and I will come and find you. I will come and find you! When | :27:23. | :27:27. | |
I did eventually find Danny it was in an unfamiliar position, | :27:27. | :27:30. | |
somewhere to the right of the members' enclosure and a strange | :27:30. | :27:35. | |
place for a political panellist sitting on the fence. The Newsnight | :27:35. | :27:39. | |
panel is what won it, don't you think. Actually funnily enough the | :27:39. | :27:43. | |
decision to go on to the Newsnight panel and to talk about having been | :27:43. | :27:47. | |
an official for the Conservative Party and still be interested in | :27:47. | :27:51. | |
that part of the work that I have done in the past did play a role | :27:51. | :27:54. | |
funnily enough. Because people probably saw me doing some of that | :27:54. | :27:58. | |
sort of strategic thinking, maybe thought I could play a role in the | :27:58. | :28:01. | |
House of Lords as well, doing something up there. It is not just | :28:01. | :28:05. | |
us making a joke of it. You think it might have actually had | :28:05. | :28:09. | |
something to do with it? It is mainly you making a joke of it. | :28:09. | :28:13. | |
is a less succinct world, a let cut and thrust world than perhaps the | :28:13. | :28:16. | |
Newsnight panel? Although I think actually what we were trying to do | :28:16. | :28:20. | |
on the Newsnight panel, what we always try to do is not to make | :28:20. | :28:24. | |
partisan points but try to use our political experience to shed light | :28:24. | :28:27. | |
on what is happening in politics. I never like to go on the Newsnight | :28:27. | :28:32. | |
panel and make a pro-Tory point, it is very boring and you have a lot | :28:32. | :28:35. | |
of politician on to do that. Exactly the same case as with the | :28:35. | :28:38. | |
House of Lords. The approach we use on the Newsnight panel Olly also | :28:38. | :28:44. | |
uses, I hope we will use that in the House of Lords. We come from a | :28:44. | :28:47. | |
political background. I'm a centre right person, I want the | :28:47. | :28:52. | |
Conservative programmes to be put into effect broadly, but I'm | :28:52. | :28:56. | |
capable of a degree of independence, that is what the House of Lords | :28:56. | :28:59. | |
should be about. It is still technically possible to become a | :28:59. | :29:02. | |
peer without being on the Newsnight panel, as proved today by new | :29:02. | :29:04. | |
Conservative Lords Sir Anthony Bamford, chairman and managing | :29:04. | :29:09. | |
director of JCB, and Oliver Wendell Holmes, former Paralympic swimmer. | :29:09. | :29:14. | |
For Labour by Doreen Lawrence, the mother of Stephen Lawrence, and | :29:14. | :29:17. | |
Charles Allen of the Olympic organising committee. For the | :29:18. | :29:20. | |
Liberal Democrats Brian Paddick, former Deputy Assistant | :29:20. | :29:24. | |
Commissioner in the Met and candidate for London, and James | :29:24. | :29:30. | |
Palumbo chairman of the Ministry of Sound group, and Jenny Jones, | :29:30. | :29:35. | |
former mayoral candidate. What about the other half of the | :29:35. | :29:41. | |
ennobled panel, we never found out where Olly's cab had taken her, but | :29:41. | :29:46. | |
we did reach her on the phone. Most of this is because of your work on | :29:46. | :29:52. | |
Newsnight? I put it all down to for six years occasionally sitting on a | :29:52. | :29:56. | |
sofa on Newsnight being asked for my opinion on politics. I'm sure | :29:56. | :30:00. | |
you would agree with that. Now you are both in the Lords will you | :30:00. | :30:03. | |
still talk to Danny? I have never stopped talking to Danny | :30:03. | :30:06. | |
Finkelstein. As you know we here at Newsnight thrive on political | :30:06. | :30:13. | |
conflict, it is our job to mix it up a bit? I don't know, I have | :30:13. | :30:17. | |
spoken to Olly, she says now she's in the House of Lords and you are, | :30:17. | :30:24. | |
she can't really talk to you any more? As I said before I thought | :30:24. | :30:27. | |
she mainly interrupted me with the silly points while I was making | :30:27. | :30:31. | |
good ones, there will be no difference. Or he could do the | :30:31. | :30:35. | |
reverse but there is a sense at the moment he's sitting on the fence. | :30:35. | :30:39. | |
It is also a rough period. ultimately turned out...Meanwhile | :30:39. | :30:42. | |
As word went around Westminster that two of our panel had gone on | :30:42. | :30:47. | |
to the Other Place, our phone went mad with would-be replacements. | :30:47. | :30:50. | |
Hello Newsnight? Afterall it is a far cheaper route to the Lords than | :30:50. | :30:55. | |
a big political donation and the Newsnight Green Room as twiglets. | :30:55. | :30:58. | |
We are not looking at anyone for the moment for the panel, we will | :30:58. | :31:04. | |
let you know. Thanks for calling, goodbye. It has no twiglets, I | :31:04. | :31:08. | |
checked. Let's discuss what the Newsnight and non-Newsnight peers | :31:08. | :31:14. | |
will be getting up to. I'm joined from he had butter ra from one of | :31:15. | :31:20. | |
the new Lib Dem peers, and the chief executive of the Electoral | :31:20. | :31:25. | |
Reform Society. Shall we start with you Jeremy Purvis, 784 peers in the | :31:25. | :31:30. | |
House. Can they cope without you? Without me, I'm sure they can. I | :31:30. | :31:33. | |
don't claim that I'm going to be bringing anything particularly | :31:33. | :31:37. | |
strong to it. I have not been on your Newsnight panel, I have been | :31:37. | :31:41. | |
on Newsnight Scotland on many occasion, I'm not sure if that has | :31:41. | :31:46. | |
been an addition to my CV that has helped. I hope to bring a little | :31:46. | :31:49. | |
bit of perhaps more representation from the nations into the House of | :31:49. | :31:54. | |
Lords, I can't claim that I'm bringing any more democrat ic | :31:54. | :31:58. | |
legitimacy for any time I served as a member of the Scottish Parliament | :31:58. | :32:02. | |
for two terms. I hope to make a contribution to make the House of | :32:02. | :32:04. | |
Lords more representative for the nation, including those from | :32:05. | :32:11. | |
Scotland. In all seriousness though, 784, nowhere to sit, according to | :32:11. | :32:15. | |
David Steel. This place is just overstuffed, you are not going to | :32:15. | :32:20. | |
be able to be heard, let alone anything else? My job is to make | :32:20. | :32:23. | |
sure I am heard. I will be approaching this as a serious job. | :32:23. | :32:27. | |
It will be my main job absolutely. I have no other independent source | :32:27. | :32:31. | |
of income. What do you want to do there, I want to know what will you | :32:31. | :32:35. | |
do when you get in there? One of the parts of discussions I had with | :32:35. | :32:39. | |
Nick Clegg when he asked me to do this, and the leader of the | :32:39. | :32:42. | |
Scottish Liberal Democrats, is to may a part in making sure that the | :32:43. | :32:47. | |
-- play a part that the reform of the House of Lords and generally | :32:47. | :32:53. | |
for the UK to play a part in the referendum in Scotland. Up until | :32:53. | :32:59. | |
last year I led a cross-party group which was arguing for reform to the | :32:59. | :33:02. | |
UK, strengthening the Scottish Parliament, making it more | :33:02. | :33:05. | |
accountable and a positive alternative to independence. That | :33:05. | :33:09. | |
is a platform in the Lords that I'm able to use, I think it might be | :33:09. | :33:12. | |
slightly different than some of the other peers for the interests they | :33:12. | :33:17. | |
have. I will be broadening that. have heard a few Lib Dem peers to | :33:17. | :33:23. | |
say they are going in to reform the place, one sniff and they are | :33:23. | :33:28. | |
forgetting all of that and it is a comfy place? I was keen on | :33:28. | :33:31. | |
reforming Scottish Parliament. Being a member of the House of | :33:31. | :33:36. | |
Lords was not part of any of my life game plan. I'm 30 years | :33:36. | :33:40. | |
younger than the average age of the peers. I was born and brought up in | :33:40. | :33:43. | |
a council house, my dad was an ambulance driver and my mum worked | :33:43. | :33:48. | |
in a shop. I won't make myself comfortable, this is a proper job | :33:49. | :33:54. | |
and I will do it to the best of my ability. It is a whiff of new blood, | :33:54. | :33:58. | |
300 years younger than the people sitting in there. That is a God | :33:58. | :34:02. | |
thing, right? The problem with the new appointments is they | :34:02. | :34:05. | |
demonstrate the point with democraticing will get macy. The | :34:05. | :34:09. | |
House of Lords is bursting at the scenes, you talked about having | :34:09. | :34:14. | |
somewhere comfy to sit. There are 400 places to sit, there are 800 | :34:14. | :34:18. | |
peers. The electoral research shows there will be 1,000 peers to come | :34:18. | :34:21. | |
and 2,000 peers after the next general election. What do you want | :34:22. | :34:28. | |
to do? We are the second-largest chamber in the world after China. | :34:28. | :34:32. | |
We have to put a stop to it t the party leaders have to get around a | :34:32. | :34:35. | |
table and put their heads together. We need a smaller more efficient | :34:35. | :34:38. | |
House of Lords. We strongly believe it should be elected by the people. | :34:38. | :34:42. | |
That is a greyer version for the House of Commons, you are asking | :34:42. | :34:45. | |
for people to get elevated to a higher house and it looks the same? | :34:45. | :34:49. | |
It is a fantasy at the moment that we have independence and expertise | :34:49. | :34:53. | |
in large quantities in the House of Lords. Most of the people in the | :34:54. | :34:57. | |
House of Lords are either party political people, a lot of them are | :34:57. | :35:01. | |
ex-politicians or party donor, we need to open up our politics from | :35:01. | :35:04. | |
people of all walks of life and talent, the most important thing we | :35:04. | :35:09. | |
have to do is sort out this super- sized second chamber which makes us | :35:09. | :35:12. | |
a laughing stock around the world. The problem is when you ask people, | :35:12. | :35:17. | |
I'm looking at the latest YouGov poll on reform from the House of | :35:17. | :35:20. | |
Lords, from June, only 18% of people could be bothered about this. | :35:20. | :35:25. | |
Most thought it is a bit of a smoke screen and diverts you from more | :35:25. | :35:28. | |
important matters? You are absolutely right to say it is never | :35:28. | :35:31. | |
going to be stop of voters' shopping lists, but over half and | :35:31. | :35:35. | |
up to three quarter of people when asked say we want to be able to | :35:35. | :35:39. | |
elect our law makers. Let's go back to you Jeremy. We have been doing a | :35:39. | :35:43. | |
few sums. If the House of Lords of open 24 hours a day, and all the | :35:43. | :35:47. | |
peers spoke one after the other, without any toilet break, no | :35:47. | :35:54. | |
popping out for sandwiches, nothing. You would get two minutes to speak. | :35:54. | :35:57. | |
This is ludicrous, if you want to reform something you don't become | :35:57. | :36:04. | |
part of the establishment do you? As an MSPI I had timed stpeechs of | :36:04. | :36:08. | |
three and four minutes, I don't think it is necessarily the case | :36:08. | :36:11. | |
that very long speeches are always very good. Your point is a serious | :36:11. | :36:14. | |
one, I think that certainly as far as reform, it can be in two stages | :36:14. | :36:18. | |
of making sure it is a reduced chamber and it is more efficient as | :36:18. | :36:21. | |
a chamber. That is part of the agenda where I think there is | :36:21. | :36:25. | |
growing consensus of having effectively retirement for that. | :36:25. | :36:29. | |
That would reduce the scale drammatically. I want it to be | :36:29. | :36:35. | |
reformed, I don't want it to be a version of the House of Commons, I | :36:35. | :36:40. | |
want it to be representative, democratically legitimate but | :36:40. | :36:44. | |
representative of the nations and rojs across the UK. A more -- | :36:44. | :36:49. | |
regions across the UK. A more federal chamber. Do you have a time | :36:49. | :36:52. | |
limit, you will say I'm going to be here for five years f I can't | :36:52. | :36:58. | |
reform I'm out of here, I can't take the �300 day, that's it? | :36:58. | :37:02. | |
is an interesting angle and what I would like to argue the case is the | :37:02. | :37:05. | |
referendum in Scotland and the lively debate that is happening in | :37:05. | :37:09. | |
Wales at the moment should be a way of bringing this debate back to the | :37:09. | :37:13. | |
table. It not simply about electing a set of politicians in the second | :37:13. | :37:19. | |
chamber of which the public, as you have right low said has very | :37:19. | :37:23. | |
limited interest -- rightly said has very limited interest in it. | :37:23. | :37:27. | |
But parts of England are hungry for a reformed Westminster and the | :37:27. | :37:36. | |
institutions of the UK. It sound as if you are there for the long haul. | :37:36. | :37:42. | |
Jeremy, Lord Purvis, thank you very much indeed. My thanks also to | :37:42. | :37:49. | |
Katie Ghosh. Elated Iranians took to the streets shouting "bye bye | :37:50. | :37:53. | |
Ahmed" after the news in the presidential election broke. It | :37:53. | :37:57. | |
certainly didn't seem as if anyone was too bad to see Mahmoud | :37:57. | :38:07. | |
:38:07. | :38:07. | ||
Ahmadinejad pass into retirement. With food inflation at 20% and | :38:07. | :38:10. | |
sanctions on oil exports of the country costing the country more | :38:10. | :38:15. | |
than half of its source of income. How will the new ruler keep the | :38:15. | :38:19. | |
people's spirits up. We will hear from Tehran from one of the | :38:19. | :38:23. | |
President's closest aides in a moment. Who is the man who is about | :38:23. | :38:33. | |
:38:33. | :38:36. | ||
to take power? He is the face that people hope is the acceptable face | :38:36. | :38:40. | |
of Iran. He will take office at the weekend, eight years of Mahmoud | :38:40. | :38:48. | |
Ahmadinejad's rule is coming to a close. The jubilation when the | :38:48. | :38:52. | |
streets when he won the elections last month was palpable for all to | :38:52. | :39:02. | |
:39:02. | :39:02. | ||
see. A far cry from images of the last elections in 2009, when | :39:02. | :39:05. | |
violence and bloodshed hit the country, after protestors clashed | :39:05. | :39:09. | |
with Government forces over disputed results when Ahmadinejad | :39:09. | :39:19. | |
:39:19. | :39:21. | ||
claimed to have won. But despite the reel operations he faces a | :39:21. | :39:27. | |
herculean task ahead of him, solve the nuclear problem and sanctions. | :39:27. | :39:37. | |
Plus there is the on going tensions with neighbours. There is | :39:37. | :39:41. | |
expectations for a move away from the hardline stance from the past. | :39:41. | :39:48. | |
That didn't stop him giving the west some advice. TRANSLATION: | :39:48. | :39:52. | |
time of sanctions is passed, even the west knows that they are facing | :39:52. | :39:55. | |
problems and the sanctions are not in their interest either. | :39:56. | :40:01. | |
America and Israel are still wary of Iran's nuclear capablities. He | :40:01. | :40:04. | |
might be reassuring the public about a transparent programme, but | :40:04. | :40:09. | |
ultimately it is the country's Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali | :40:09. | :40:13. | |
Khamenei, a staunch conservative who decides on these matters. But | :40:13. | :40:17. | |
he also presides over a crippled economy, inflation is soaring at | :40:17. | :40:24. | |
over 40%, the highest in the region, with many ordinary Iranians | :40:24. | :40:29. | |
suffering and hungry, not just for food but for reform. One of the | :40:29. | :40:32. | |
President's closest allies will be Dr Mohammad Nahavandian, an | :40:32. | :40:36. | |
economist who is currently in charge of the commerce chambers, he | :40:36. | :40:41. | |
will be steering the President through the difficult months ahead. | :40:41. | :40:45. | |
A little earlier I spoke to Mohammad Nahavandian, and I asked | :40:45. | :40:51. | |
him what could be expected in this new President's Iran? Everybody is | :40:51. | :41:01. | |
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hopeful that we will have a more harmonised economy, more harmonised | :41:03. | :41:10. | |
Government and more participation by people in the state of the | :41:10. | :41:17. | |
country in economic issues and political issues as well. | :41:17. | :41:21. | |
people are asking for two very difficult things, they are asking | :41:21. | :41:26. | |
him to fix a failing economy, they are asking him to make sure that | :41:26. | :41:33. | |
sanctions are loosened. How is he going to start trying to do that? | :41:33. | :41:41. | |
There are some problems with some countries which have accumulated | :41:41. | :41:51. | |
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through time, but the direction for mutual trust and mutual confidence | :41:53. | :42:00. | |
is accepted by people and in check issues we are seeing a lot of | :42:00. | :42:09. | |
interest being expressed by private sector, domestic and foreign to r | :42:09. | :42:15. | |
for having investments in -- and foreign for having investments in | :42:15. | :42:19. | |
many parts of the Iranian economy. You talk about problems that have | :42:19. | :42:22. | |
built up over time with certain countries. Let's talk about two of | :42:22. | :42:27. | |
those countries, and when news reached Benjamin Netanyahu about | :42:28. | :42:35. | |
the election of Mr Rouhani, and he said this is a man who called | :42:35. | :42:39. | |
Ahmadinejad a wolf in wolf's clothe, he is a wolf in sheep's clothe, he | :42:39. | :42:43. | |
smiles but builds a bomb. Does that mean relations with Israel will be | :42:43. | :42:48. | |
as bad as they ever have been with your new leader? That kind of | :42:48. | :42:58. | |
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wording is not going to help. To help solving any problems. This is | :42:59. | :43:06. | |
a new opportunity for the world, for the west, for Iran as well to | :43:06. | :43:16. | |
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put the issues that we have differences of opinion in a new | :43:17. | :43:23. | |
perspective and find a kind of solution which is win-win. Iran is | :43:23. | :43:29. | |
a country with a great deal of influence in the region, what do | :43:29. | :43:36. | |
you see in President Assad of Syria that the rest of the world cannot? | :43:36. | :43:46. | |
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When foreign interests come into play and allow extremist factors | :43:52. | :44:01. | |
play a role, violence can prevent democracy from giving the people | :44:01. | :44:08. | |
the right of self-rule. Will Iran row back from its nuclear ambition? | :44:08. | :44:18. | |
Nuclear technology is a technology that every nation has to have its | :44:18. | :44:25. | |
right for peaceful use. Iran has always plain taind that the | :44:25. | :44:28. | |
intention here has -- maintained that the intention has been only | :44:28. | :44:38. | |
for peaceful uses, not only taking care and following the | :44:38. | :44:43. | |
international obligations, but also from religious points of view, Iran | :44:43. | :44:52. | |
has been of the opinion that nuclear arms are not allowed | :44:52. | :45:00. | |
according to Islamic law. I think those misunderstandings can go away | :45:00. | :45:09. | |
if all sides take a new approach in negotiations. Thank you very much | :45:09. | :45:19. | |
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for being with us. Morning papers: | :45:47. | :45:51. | |
That is all that we have time for. I will be here to do it all over | :45:51. | :46:01. | |
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again tomorrow night, until then good night. Whilst today was a day | :46:25. | :46:28. | |
of contrast with rain in the north and heat in the south-east, things | :46:28. | :46:31. | |
will be a little more straight forward tomorrow, it looks as | :46:31. | :46:34. | |
though it will be sunny spells and scattered showers. Those showers | :46:34. | :46:37. | |
perhaps thundery in the central and eastern areas first thing in the | :46:37. | :46:41. | |
morning. By the middle of the afternoon it will be a better | :46:41. | :46:43. | |
afternoon in Northern Ireland and Scotland, particularly in | :46:43. | :46:46. | |
comparison to today. There will be a few showers, but inbetween some | :46:46. | :46:50. | |
lovely sunny spells. It will feel quite pleasant. Perhaps sheltered | :46:50. | :46:54. | |
and eastern areas staying dry all day. Highest values for 22 degrees. | :46:54. | :46:57. | |
A few showers across northern England. There will be decent | :46:57. | :47:01. | |
breaks in the cloud and a pleasant feel. A little fresher than today, | :47:01. | :47:05. | |
that may well be welcome news. We will still got the heat into East | :47:05. | :47:09. | |
Anglia and still humidity with a few showers here to come. A little | :47:09. | :47:12. | |
more cloud with sharper showers into the south west and parts of | :47:12. | :47:15. | |
Wales. But, as the nature of showers you may well escape them | :47:15. | :47:19. | |
all together and keep the sunshine and with a fresher feel it will | :47:19. | :47:22. | |
feel more pleasant. As we move towards Friday and into the weekend, | :47:23. | :47:28. | |
the risk of showers increases and the fresher scenario stays with us. | :47:28. | :47:32. | |
London may well stay dry, there will be more sunshine around on | :47:32. | :47:38. |