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The row over HS2: Newsnight has obtained government figures which | :00:00. | :00:10. | |
show some areas will be big losers if the scheme goes ahead. Aberdeen | :00:11. | :00:14. | |
could lose up to ?220 million a year, Cambridge ?126 million a year. | :00:15. | :00:19. | |
We'll hear from HS2's chief executive and from the Deputy First | :00:20. | :00:24. | |
Minister of Scotland. Plebgate and Andrew Mitchell - a new | :00:25. | :00:30. | |
twist tonight. We'll hear live from Warwickshire's Police and Crime | :00:31. | :00:32. | |
Commissioner who condemns the Independent Police Complaints | :00:33. | :00:34. | |
Commission for a "gross distortion of what actually took place." | :00:35. | :00:38. | |
And Pussy Riot - the Russian protesters serving time in jail. We | :00:39. | :00:48. | |
bring you extraordinary scenes from their extraordinary lives. | :00:49. | :00:55. | |
Good evening. Like one of those magic cabarets where the audience is | :00:56. | :01:02. | |
invited to pick a number - any number - the numbers to do with the | :01:03. | :01:06. | |
costs and benefits of building a new high speed rail link are open to a | :01:07. | :01:09. | |
lot of guesswork. But the government insists they have had the experts | :01:10. | :01:13. | |
assiduously studying the case to build HS2. The accountants KPMG have | :01:14. | :01:16. | |
concluded that it could be a ?15 billion-a-year boost to the UK | :01:17. | :01:20. | |
economy. Now Newsnight, through a Freedom of Information request, has | :01:21. | :01:23. | |
discovered that behind that national figure, cities from Cambridge in the | :01:24. | :01:27. | |
East of England, to Bristol in the West and Aberdeen in the north of | :01:28. | :01:30. | |
Scotland could suffer substantial losses from the scheme as currently | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
planned. David Grossman has the story - and the figures they did not | :01:36. | :01:47. | |
want to publish. No-one can accuse the people behind | :01:48. | :01:50. | |
HS2 of being pessimists - glass half full doesn't come close: the HS2 | :01:51. | :02:00. | |
glass is brimming over. Last month the Transport Secretary unveiled a | :02:01. | :02:03. | |
new study by the accountants KPMG, describing the fantastic benefits | :02:04. | :02:06. | |
that they said would flow from the new line. High Speed 2 will make | :02:07. | :02:17. | |
Liverpool stronger, Leeds stronger, Sheffield stronger, Birmingham | :02:18. | :02:21. | |
stronger, Manchester stronger, Britain stronger. A ?15 billion | :02:22. | :02:32. | |
annual boost to our economy. Unfortunately, nowhere in the | :02:33. | :02:34. | |
58-page report - nor in its 34-page technical appendix - was there room | :02:35. | :02:38. | |
to detail the towns and cities and regions across the UK that would | :02:39. | :02:44. | |
lose because of HS2. But thanks to a Freedom of Information request, we | :02:45. | :02:47. | |
can now reveal those figures - suggesting some places are going to | :02:48. | :02:53. | |
lose big because of the new line. The study says that by the time HS2 | :02:54. | :02:57. | |
is built in 2037, there could be big losers right across the UK - every | :02:58. | :03:02. | |
one of these red dots is a place losing money as a result of the new | :03:03. | :03:07. | |
line. Now we can put figures to the dots. Cardiff could lose ?70 million | :03:08. | :03:14. | |
every year. For Peter Brooke, ?66 million a year. For Bristol, over | :03:15. | :03:18. | |
?100 million a year. Norfolk could lose nearly ?200 million. | :03:19. | :03:25. | |
Cambridgeshire is set to lose ?235 million. Even Aberdeen's oil-fuelled | :03:26. | :03:31. | |
economy is susceptible, apparently - it could lose ?220 million every | :03:32. | :03:35. | |
year - that's 1.3% of its GDP. It is really disappointing to see a | :03:36. | :03:37. | |
negative impact on the north-east of Scotland. Looking at further depth, | :03:38. | :03:45. | |
it is compounded by negative, indeed relatively large impact on Dundee. | :03:46. | :03:50. | |
When you put that together for the north-east, you're looking at a lost | :03:51. | :03:56. | |
GDP of over ?330 million, which is significant to say the least. We | :03:57. | :04:02. | |
showed the figures to economic 's confessor Henry Overman at the LSE. | :04:03. | :04:09. | |
He used to be an adviser and he says it stands to reason that some | :04:10. | :04:14. | |
locations will miss out. When a firm is thinking about where to locate it | :04:15. | :04:17. | |
thinks about the relative productivity, the relative wages. | :04:18. | :04:25. | |
HS2 shifts that around so if you are on the line and you get productivity | :04:26. | :04:27. | |
improvement, that makes you a better place than somewhere off the line | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
that has not happy productivity improvement. The other way in which | :04:32. | :04:34. | |
it happens is that firms compete for business. So firms that are in | :04:35. | :04:40. | |
Birmingham benefit from productivity increase and am or able to compete | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
in the British market, and that gives them advantage to firms say in | :04:45. | :04:52. | |
Bristol, that are not on the line. -- and are more able to compete in | :04:53. | :04:56. | |
the British market. Business leaders and Cambridgeshire -- in Cambridge | :04:57. | :05:03. | |
are sceptical that their specialist knowledge will be harmed by HS2 but | :05:04. | :05:06. | |
they said investment could be better spent. Free review want to drive our | :05:07. | :05:12. | |
economy forward in the UK, -- if we ready want to drive our economy | :05:13. | :05:15. | |
forward, then what you should do is put that money into the really | :05:16. | :05:18. | |
successful economies, like Cambridge. And make sure we have the | :05:19. | :05:24. | |
infrastructure to be able to continue the kind of contribution | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
that we make to UK plc. Could the damage to some parts of the UK done | :05:30. | :05:34. | |
by HS2 really be as large as these figures suggest? Professor Overman | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
believes not. He thinks both the positive and negative impacts of HS2 | :05:40. | :05:43. | |
are overstated by a factor of somewhere between four and six. If | :05:44. | :05:50. | |
the projected benefits are ?15 billion a year, what do you think we | :05:51. | :05:56. | |
should discount? I think the kind of benefits that they are trying to | :05:57. | :05:59. | |
pick up here, I think the number would more reasonably be 2 billion | :06:00. | :06:06. | |
to 3 billion. If I was off the line, even if I was on the line, my | :06:07. | :06:11. | |
major worry would be, could we be spending 40 to ?50 billion worth of | :06:12. | :06:14. | |
money on things that would achieve more benefit for the British | :06:15. | :06:17. | |
economy, and I am pretty clear that the answer to that is yes. So far | :06:18. | :06:24. | |
the debate around HS2 has been dominated by those near the proposed | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
line who are concerned about damage to their communities, and those | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
who. These figures could increase -- the | :06:33. | :06:41. | |
release of these figures could increase the pressure on ministers | :06:42. | :06:45. | |
to reconsider. Joining us now is Alison Munro, chief executive of the | :06:46. | :06:50. | |
HS2 project. In all the 92 pages of the original KPMG report, you didn't | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
give any figures for the places which would actually suffer annual | :06:56. | :06:58. | |
losses. Why did you hide be bad news. We did not hide the bad news | :06:59. | :07:09. | |
at all. We published a map and the numbers that you talk about other | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
numbers that lie behind that map. We were quite open. We needed a Freedom | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
of Information request to get these figures. You trumpeted these losses | :07:19. | :07:24. | |
just the same as you trumpeted the ?15 billion that would benefit the | :07:25. | :07:28. | |
economy? They were in the report that was published in September, we | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
have not hidden that fact. I think this has been totally overplayed. I | :07:34. | :07:36. | |
don't get one will truly expect, if you were providing a high-speed line | :07:37. | :07:41. | |
which was a major north-south network, you would expect that the | :07:42. | :07:45. | |
places directly on that network would benefit from the released | :07:46. | :07:50. | |
capacity, those places would benefit most from that investment. You can't | :07:51. | :07:56. | |
look at it in isolation. Are you saying that these figures were | :07:57. | :08:00. | |
clearly printed in the report and you were delighted to the people of | :08:01. | :08:04. | |
Kettering they could lose 2.3% of GDP, Suffolk West 1.4%. You told | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
people that in the report? We published the map which showed the | :08:11. | :08:13. | |
places that would win relatively and those that would not. We did not | :08:14. | :08:17. | |
provide the figures, there is a lot of information in that report. The | :08:18. | :08:22. | |
general picture was there for people to see. But not the figures? We did | :08:23. | :08:28. | |
not provide the figures but if you let me finish, it is showing, I | :08:29. | :08:33. | |
don't think it is a disappointing that the places on the high-speed | :08:34. | :08:37. | |
network, the places that enjoy new services and released capacity will | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
then fit most from High Speed 2. But High Speed 2 is not the only | :08:42. | :08:47. | |
investment the government is making -- will benefit most from High Speed | :08:48. | :08:52. | |
2. To be clear, you did not provide the figures. We did not. We have | :08:53. | :08:59. | |
been entirely happy to provide the figures, we are not hiding anything. | :09:00. | :09:03. | |
You're happy now to provide them, now that we have got them. We're | :09:04. | :09:10. | |
absolutely happy to provide them. There is no secret, High Speed 2 | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
will benefit our major cities which are on the network and places which | :09:15. | :09:17. | |
will also benefit from services on the existing light -- line that will | :09:18. | :09:24. | |
get extra services. No one would expect High Speed 2 to deliver the | :09:25. | :09:29. | |
same benefits in Cornwall as Leeds and Manchester. We are not arguing | :09:30. | :09:32. | |
that but we would expect that someone engaged in a major project, | :09:33. | :09:38. | |
spending ?50 billion of public money, would be open as to who will | :09:39. | :09:43. | |
benefit and how much people will lose if they do not benefit. Yellow | :09:44. | :09:51. | |
we published the map. If we go -- We published the map. Why should we | :09:52. | :09:57. | |
believe any of the figures you have come up with, it is all voodoo? | :09:58. | :10:03. | |
These are predictions we are having to make into the future. We have | :10:04. | :10:10. | |
also calculate it in fits and costs of transport investment. Those don't | :10:11. | :10:17. | |
-- calculated benefits and costs. You would expect to see a | :10:18. | :10:21. | |
concentration of growth in the future in the areas served by High | :10:22. | :10:24. | |
Speed 2. This is against the background when the economy will be | :10:25. | :10:27. | |
growing, it is not that the other places are losing, they are not | :10:28. | :10:31. | |
growing as fast as the places that will be served by High Speed 2. You | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
are talking about High Speed 2 in isolation, the government is | :10:36. | :10:38. | |
spending a massive amount of money to help other places. So for | :10:39. | :10:42. | |
example, electrification of the great Western mainline will help | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
Cardiff and Swansea. Electrification of the Midland Main to places like | :10:47. | :10:55. | |
Corby. Massive -- Midland mainline. You can't just look at what is | :10:56. | :10:58. | |
happening with High Speed 2 in isolation. What you can't do is put | :10:59. | :11:04. | |
this question of connectivity in isolation. The KPMG figures assumed | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
the transport connectivity is the only supply side constraints to | :11:10. | :11:15. | |
business location, it is not. It recognises, if you read the report, | :11:16. | :11:20. | |
it recognises the fact it is making that assumption. It is the wrong | :11:21. | :11:24. | |
assumption because people move businesses due to Labour, whether | :11:25. | :11:31. | |
they can build on land, so to make the assumption it is about | :11:32. | :11:35. | |
connectivity is nonsense. It is showing the connectivity of -- | :11:36. | :11:41. | |
showing what the connectivity benefits could be. High Speed 2 is | :11:42. | :11:44. | |
not going to solve every problem in the country but if those other | :11:45. | :11:50. | |
factors are there, it shows the connectivity can bring really | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
substantial benefits to the economy for the future. We need to remember | :11:54. | :12:01. | |
the railways are becoming increasingly full. Unless we tackle | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
the capacity on the railways, the economy will come to a halt. If we | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
don't have the ways for people to get around, for businesses to do | :12:11. | :12:15. | |
their business. We will have more lorries travelling on the road. We | :12:16. | :12:19. | |
need to address the capacity issue. We will leave it there. | :12:20. | :12:23. | |
Now, The Scottish National Party have been holding their annual | :12:24. | :12:27. | |
conference in Perth today and shortly before we came on air, I | :12:28. | :12:30. | |
asked Scotland's deputy first minister Nicola Sturgeon what she | :12:31. | :12:33. | |
made of those figures Newsnight had obtained. The figures I have seen | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
that you are reporting tonight simply confirm and underline the | :12:38. | :12:42. | |
view of the Scottish Government. HS2 will be stronger, the business case | :12:43. | :12:45. | |
for it will be stronger if it comes to Scotland, if it links up Scotland | :12:46. | :12:51. | |
and England. Also, the benefits to Scotland obviously require it to | :12:52. | :12:55. | |
come to Scotland. That is why the Scottish woman is talking to the UK | :12:56. | :12:59. | |
government make sure proper planning is being done -- that is why the | :13:00. | :13:05. | |
Scottish parliament is talking to the UK government. Aberdeen could | :13:06. | :13:13. | |
lose 220 million a year, 1.3% of GDP. Dundee and Angus, a loss of | :13:14. | :13:23. | |
1.9%. Do you oppose it as currently planned, if it is not extended to | :13:24. | :13:30. | |
Scotland? The figures we are seeing are of concern. These are figures | :13:31. | :13:35. | |
that we have now seen but they back up what our concern has always been. | :13:36. | :13:40. | |
If you have HS2 that only goes as far as the current plans, it would | :13:41. | :13:46. | |
be to Scotland's disadvantage. That is why we are doing so hard and have | :13:47. | :13:50. | |
been talking to the UK government, we are in the process of trying to | :13:51. | :13:57. | |
finalise vans for a study to link in Scotland and England -- finalise | :13:58. | :14:02. | |
plans. I think there is another important point, the business case | :14:03. | :14:06. | |
for HS2 is stronger if it includes Scotland. We know the government | :14:07. | :14:12. | |
south of the border is ready under pressure for people worried about | :14:13. | :14:14. | |
the project and that it might be over budget, that it is not being | :14:15. | :14:18. | |
managed as well as it could or should be. It is important they have | :14:19. | :14:22. | |
as strong a business case as possible and it is stronger if | :14:23. | :14:27. | |
Scotland is included. You were clear in what you were intending to do | :14:28. | :14:30. | |
about any geek costs, you were planning -- about green energy | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
costs. Isn't it taking it out of one pocket | :14:35. | :14:51. | |
and giving it to the other? The announcement I made was about to | :14:52. | :14:56. | |
specific components, helping energy efficiency and more vulnerable | :14:57. | :14:58. | |
customers. The trouble with having these levied on the energy bill is | :14:59. | :15:02. | |
that everybody, regardless of their income, regardless of their | :15:03. | :15:05. | |
financial position, has to pay that. We know the people are feeling | :15:06. | :15:11. | |
pressure from rising energy prices. If we take that out of the bill and | :15:12. | :15:15. | |
fund the scheme centrally, we can cut the pain of the energy bills, | :15:16. | :15:20. | |
but it also means we can better integrate and join up the energy | :15:21. | :15:23. | |
efficiency schemes. But you'll raise taxes to do it. You have to find the | :15:24. | :15:30. | |
money from somewhere. We are not proposing raising taxes. We will | :15:31. | :15:33. | |
budget as we do for the existing commitments as a Scottish government | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
to make sure we prioritise the energy efficiency schemes. You will | :15:39. | :15:44. | |
cut something else? There will be other revenue sources that go to the | :15:45. | :15:47. | |
Westminster Treasury that come to Scotland, the emissions trading | :15:48. | :15:51. | |
scheme for example, so we can take budget decisions that allow us to | :15:52. | :15:54. | |
prioritise the things that matter. The important points are that it | :15:55. | :15:58. | |
will reduce the pain that people are feeling from energy bills, and 5% | :15:59. | :16:02. | |
reduction energy bills will come, but it will allow us to have energy | :16:03. | :16:06. | |
efficiency schemes and I will reiterate the point I was going to | :16:07. | :16:09. | |
go on to make, that we fund those schemes to the tune of about ?80 | :16:10. | :16:13. | |
million directly from the Scottish Government and another ?120 million | :16:14. | :16:17. | |
comes from the energy companies. That makes it difficult to organise | :16:18. | :16:20. | |
and deliver the schemes as effectively and we would want to. | :16:21. | :16:24. | |
This is a common-sense solution that people will welcome -- as we would | :16:25. | :16:30. | |
want to. Another common-sense solution debated in Westminster day | :16:31. | :16:34. | |
was whether we should put on another woolly jumper. What is your advice? | :16:35. | :16:41. | |
As I understand it that comment came from Downing Street spokesperson, | :16:42. | :16:45. | |
and that signifies a government that is deeply, deeply out of touch with | :16:46. | :16:49. | |
the pain that people are suffering from energy bills that are going | :16:50. | :16:55. | |
totally in the wrong. What we need are common-sense, level-headed | :16:56. | :16:57. | |
solutions, which is why the announcement I made today would be | :16:58. | :17:00. | |
welcomed across the board. Nicola Sturgeon, speaking to me from Perth | :17:01. | :17:04. | |
a little earlier. In a moment, Pussy Riot. | :17:05. | :17:19. | |
The row over who said what to whom in the Plebgate affair deepened this | :17:20. | :17:24. | |
week after the Prime Minister suggested the former Chief Whip | :17:25. | :17:27. | |
Andrew Mitchell was owed an apology. Three police officers from the | :17:28. | :17:30. | |
Midlands who met Mr Mitchell after his row in Downing Street gave a | :17:31. | :17:33. | |
public account of their conversation which was at odds with a recording | :17:34. | :17:37. | |
made by Mr Mitchell. The Independent Police Complaints Commissioner waded | :17:38. | :17:40. | |
in and questioned the integrity of the officers and whether they should | :17:41. | :17:42. | |
be disciplined. Warwickshire's Police and Crime Commissioner Ron | :17:43. | :17:45. | |
Ball told Newsnight on Wednesday that he wanted to get to the bottom | :17:46. | :17:49. | |
of what had happened, and tonight we will see if he has done so. First, | :17:50. | :17:51. | |
Zoe Conway reports. On Wednesday the never ending saga | :17:52. | :18:00. | |
of Plebgate took a surprising turn. Deborah Glass, the Independent | :18:01. | :18:03. | |
Police Complaints Commission, suggested that the police had | :18:04. | :18:06. | |
changed its mind over whether to discipline police officers for being | :18:07. | :18:10. | |
misleading about a meeting they had with Andrew Mitchell last year. She | :18:11. | :18:16. | |
said in a letter to Warwickshire's Police and Crime Commissioner: | :18:17. | :18:32. | |
this led to speculation that senior police officers could have | :18:33. | :18:37. | |
interfered with the investigation and got the report changed. So why | :18:38. | :18:47. | |
were there to different reports and why the apparent change of mind? | :18:48. | :18:50. | |
This was the Commissioner two nights ago. When you say what happened, | :18:51. | :19:01. | |
what do you mean? How they can come to contradictory conclusions and | :19:02. | :19:03. | |
then apparently ignore the request from the IP CC to reconsider? Since | :19:04. | :19:09. | |
I have had that information I have had nothing other than media | :19:10. | :19:12. | |
interviews. I've not had the opportunity to talk to the Chief | :19:13. | :19:15. | |
Constable about it. I most certainly will ask the question, the people to | :19:16. | :19:21. | |
explain to me how the process happen. Since then he has been doing | :19:22. | :19:26. | |
some digging. And he now says, in a statement written exclusively for | :19:27. | :19:27. | |
Newsnight. So he has been able to prove what he | :19:28. | :19:55. | |
said was true, and what the police officers said was untrue. The drama | :19:56. | :20:01. | |
is far from over. The police are now reviewing their investigation, and | :20:02. | :20:04. | |
the action returns to Westminster next week when senior police | :20:05. | :20:07. | |
officers give evidence about Plebgate to the home affairs select | :20:08. | :20:11. | |
committee. The Warwickshire Police and Crime Commissioner Ron Ball told | :20:12. | :20:15. | |
us on Wednesday that he wanted to get to the bottom of what went on, | :20:16. | :20:20. | |
and he joins us now. You said that the three police officers had caused | :20:21. | :20:22. | |
considerable loss of trust and confidence in the police and they | :20:23. | :20:25. | |
should reflect on this. What do you want them to do? What I want is for | :20:26. | :20:30. | |
the truth to be out in all of this and for the public to know what | :20:31. | :20:34. | |
happened, and to get a proper investigation done. Those three | :20:35. | :20:40. | |
officers clearly, the view of the public is, they misled and | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
misrepresented what happened in the interview with Andrew Mitchell. So | :20:45. | :20:51. | |
should they apologise? The trouble with the word apologise is its | :20:52. | :20:55. | |
almost use these days as a word or weapon to demean people. What I | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
think is those officers should reflect on the fact that there is | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
great reputational damage being done to the police in this country by it. | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
There is great damage being done to their fellow officers, and, in my | :21:09. | :21:13. | |
view, they should find some way of acknowledging that to the public. | :21:14. | :21:17. | |
Have you got to the bottom of this? What did take place? Unfortunately I | :21:18. | :21:24. | |
do not have all of the information today. I was hoping that by this | :21:25. | :21:27. | |
evening I would have it. I've commissioned a report and I said I | :21:28. | :21:31. | |
wanted it really quickly. It looks as though the complete report is | :21:32. | :21:35. | |
going to be available on Monday, but there is enough information for me | :21:36. | :21:38. | |
to be able to say that I am really concerned. You do seem to have | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
enough information to condemn Deborah Glass. You said what she did | :21:44. | :21:48. | |
constituted huge concern in publicly in questioning the integrity and | :21:49. | :21:51. | |
judgement of senior officers, and perhaps it is her job to do that if | :21:52. | :21:57. | |
she thinks they have failed. Provided it can be justified. The | :21:58. | :22:00. | |
letter sent to me has left an impression. I have spoken to a | :22:01. | :22:03. | |
number of members of the public to find out what their perception is. | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
Sorry to interrupt, but their perception is interesting, but the | :22:09. | :22:11. | |
people who know what went on presumably the Chief Constable. The | :22:12. | :22:16. | |
perception is incredibly important. But you knew what the perception was | :22:17. | :22:21. | |
on Wednesday. The question is what happened? Have you spent time with | :22:22. | :22:30. | |
the Chief Constable to find this out? I haven't spent time with the | :22:31. | :22:33. | |
Chief Constable because what I did was commission investigations. That | :22:34. | :22:35. | |
is what is taking place at the moment. I want that information to | :22:36. | :22:37. | |
be available for the home affairs committee when the officers can be | :22:38. | :22:41. | |
grown. You are the Warwickshire Police and crime Commissioner, so | :22:42. | :22:44. | |
people would think you should find it out and get on with it? That is | :22:45. | :22:48. | |
what I am doing. I am setting in motion the investigation to be done | :22:49. | :22:53. | |
as quickly as possible. There are three forces involved, so not | :22:54. | :22:56. | |
unreasonably there needs to be communication between them. I want | :22:57. | :23:00. | |
an accurate report, not a report in 24 hours that is misleading. I | :23:01. | :23:06. | |
understand that, but on what basis can you say that Deborah class -- | :23:07. | :23:11. | |
Deborah Glass appears to have produced a gross distortion of what | :23:12. | :23:15. | |
took place when you don't know what took place? I'm able to say that the | :23:16. | :23:24. | |
letter she sent to me has been interpreted that everybody takes | :23:25. | :23:29. | |
that that there was a report that recommended one thing, and senior | :23:30. | :23:32. | |
officers intervened and changed it to come to a completely different | :23:33. | :23:36. | |
conclusion, and there is no evidence to support that. There is evidence | :23:37. | :23:41. | |
to support a different view. If that were true, if that assertion were | :23:42. | :23:47. | |
true, why did Deborah Glass not do what she is perfectly capable of | :23:48. | :23:50. | |
doing, which is take over the investigation? Why didn't she do it? | :23:51. | :23:57. | |
The Independent Police Complaints Commission says that Deborah Glass | :23:58. | :24:00. | |
did not suggest that senior officers had changed the statement, just at | :24:01. | :24:04. | |
an earlier draft recommended misconduct. She is not impugning | :24:05. | :24:08. | |
anybody there, that is the statement they gave. Very clever wording. Very | :24:09. | :24:13. | |
clever wording. This is why I have done the survey as to what people | :24:14. | :24:19. | |
think, and she is perfectly aware of the fact that out there a message | :24:20. | :24:23. | |
that has gone, the thing that has done reputational damage, including | :24:24. | :24:28. | |
to my chief officer, and she's perfectly happy for the view to be | :24:29. | :24:32. | |
taken that senior officers intervened to change that report. | :24:33. | :24:37. | |
There is no evidence of that. The fact they have said that to my | :24:38. | :24:41. | |
justifies my stance on it. Thank you for joining us. | :24:42. | :24:44. | |
The feminist band members Pussy Riot scandalised some in Russia, or, more | :24:45. | :24:49. | |
accurately, in the Kremlin, with their protest activities, including | :24:50. | :24:52. | |
in a church. They are now serving jail sentences. One of the band | :24:53. | :24:56. | |
members was reported today to have been moved from a Corrective Colony | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
outside Moscow to a new jail after a period on hunger strike. So who are | :25:01. | :25:04. | |
these young women? Our colleagues on BBC Storyville have been finding | :25:05. | :25:05. | |
out. And you can see the full 90 minute | :25:06. | :31:13. | |
Storyville documentary on Monday night at 10:00pm on BBC Four. That's | :31:14. | :31:20. | |
it for tonight. After hearing that members of parliament were not very | :31:21. | :31:23. | |
good at giving up their seat for their colleague Liberal Democrat Jo | :31:24. | :31:26. | |
Swinson, we decided to see if the general public were any more gallant | :31:27. | :31:30. | |
on the London Underground. As it happens, they were. And remember, | :31:31. | :31:38. | |
wrap up warm this weekend. My name is Claire Adams and I am eight | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
months pregnant. I will be going on the tube, in the commuter rush hour, | :31:44. | :31:47. | |
to see how ready people are to give up their seat for me. Wish me luck. | :31:48. | :31:51. |