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After 70 days in a Russian jail, the Greenpeace activists are released. | :00:10. | :00:15. | |
We speak exclusively to one about life behind bars and whether it has | :00:16. | :00:19. | |
changed his beliefs. I spend a lot of time in handcuffs and small | :00:20. | :00:24. | |
spaces, being transported around. It is a very claustrophobic place, | :00:25. | :00:31. | |
prison. Have we reached tipping point for the Bitcoin, what began as | :00:32. | :00:37. | |
a subversive virtual currency, is now recognised by the fed. Does it | :00:38. | :00:43. | |
ruin it? The Chingford boy who designed the iPod has teemed up with | :00:44. | :00:48. | |
Bono, a warning, there will be singing. There is a tune I wrote | :00:49. | :00:52. | |
earlier on it. # Strangers in the night (plays out | :00:53. | :00:58. | |
of tune) # Exchanging glances, lovers at | :00:59. | :01:06. | |
first sight! A diet of fish soup, court | :01:07. | :01:10. | |
appearances in cages and two months in a Russian jail, there must have | :01:11. | :01:14. | |
been times when the Greenpeace activists wondered if their trek | :01:15. | :01:17. | |
into Arctic waters had really been worth it. But today came freedom of | :01:18. | :01:21. | |
sorts. The release of 29 of the Arctic 30 on bail. Tonight we speak | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
exclusively to one of the British men freed and asked about his | :01:25. | :01:29. | |
experienced behind bars, and what taught him about Russia, prison and | :01:30. | :01:32. | |
the effectiveness of direct action. First a reminder of how it all | :01:33. | :01:39. | |
began. (Gunfire) It was this attempt by the protestors in September to | :01:40. | :01:44. | |
board an Arctic oil rig, owned by the Russian company, Gazprom, that | :01:45. | :01:50. | |
prompted the authorities to arrest them and charge them, first for | :01:51. | :02:00. | |
trespassing and then hooliganism. This wasn't the first time they were | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
on the rig, a year ago they got a warning from the Russians but no | :02:05. | :02:08. | |
arrests. Court images like this brought worldwide condemnation of | :02:09. | :02:12. | |
the activists' treatments. It is not just grassroots supporters is that | :02:13. | :02:15. | |
have been campaigning for their release. Celebrities have got in on | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
the act as well, causing widespread focus on the Russians and their | :02:20. | :02:23. | |
reaction. Focus perhaps not entirely welcome ahead of the 2014 winter | :02:24. | :02:32. | |
Olympics. How are you feeling? Feels very good to be out. The granting of | :02:33. | :02:39. | |
the bail for 29 of the 30 held in detention came just after a maritime | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
court ordered them to release the vessel and the crew on the payment | :02:44. | :02:50. | |
of a three. Six million euro bond. Russia was dismissive of the case | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
and said it didn't fall under the international tribunal of the law of | :02:56. | :03:03. | |
the see. But President Putnam said Putin -- Putin said he didn't want | :03:04. | :03:06. | |
to aggravate the situation. Whether they will be allowed to leave the | :03:07. | :03:13. | |
country we do not know. I asked one of the freed how he felt to be free? | :03:14. | :03:19. | |
I was jubilant this morning, the prevailing emotion most of the day. | :03:20. | :03:24. | |
I still feel very strongly about our cause and you know the campaign to | :03:25. | :03:32. | |
save the Arctic. Yeah, the period inside hasn't daunted me in the | :03:33. | :03:38. | |
task, but you can't spend two months in Russian prisons without really | :03:39. | :03:45. | |
taking a look at the whole issue and your own circumstances as well. I | :03:46. | :03:52. | |
have had highs and lows. You mentioned the highs and the lows, | :03:53. | :03:57. | |
what were the lows? The greatest low came last week when I heard that | :03:58. | :04:01. | |
they had applied for a three-month extension for the investigation. | :04:02. | :04:08. | |
Which really spelt out that there was the potential for us to be | :04:09. | :04:15. | |
staying in the -- jail until late February. That was worrying from the | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
point of view I wouldn't see my partner and I was going to miss | :04:20. | :04:22. | |
Christmas and I wouldn't see my family. But, yeah, I was prepared | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
for it. It was just a bit of a low point. But I think that the lowest | :04:28. | :04:33. | |
point was when I ran out of reading materials. You know when you are | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
sat, left alone with your thoughts, at that point you can get quite low. | :04:38. | :04:42. | |
You have only been out a few hours, just describe what you have decided | :04:43. | :04:48. | |
mentally you never want to do or see again? What do I never want to see | :04:49. | :04:56. | |
again? That is Russian fish soup. Yeah, I haven't made any massive | :04:57. | :04:59. | |
resolutions to change my way of life in any way. Did you ever question | :05:00. | :05:05. | |
why you had ended up where you had? No, not at all. I was there for a | :05:06. | :05:18. | |
reason, I have never doubted my Reasons. My resolve has never been | :05:19. | :05:23. | |
stronger to fight for environmental issues, particularly the campaign of | :05:24. | :05:28. | |
saving the Arctic and combatting climate change. Stepping back you | :05:29. | :05:31. | |
could say none of your actions have yet impacted on what Russia, Gazprom | :05:32. | :05:36. | |
or Shell are doing there, so has the direct action even worked? Had I not | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
have done that I wouldn't be speaking to you now I doubt. My | :05:41. | :05:46. | |
message is very much that humanity has to take a holistic view and | :05:47. | :05:52. | |
really start doing some serious work towards preventing climate | :05:53. | :05:56. | |
catastrophe. What we really need to do is get some kind of legal | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
low-binding agreement to make an Arctic refuge, and that's what | :06:02. | :06:06. | |
really you are aiming for, with the whole Save The Arctic Campaign. This | :06:07. | :06:11. | |
was a small battle in that campaign. So I think it has been absolutely | :06:12. | :06:16. | |
worth it. It certainly brought it to the attention of the Russian voters, | :06:17. | :06:22. | |
you know, hopefully it is bringing it to the dinner tables around the | :06:23. | :06:26. | |
world. For the conversations that will work both ways, some people | :06:27. | :06:29. | |
watching this will say you left the Russians no choice. They had warned | :06:30. | :06:32. | |
you a year ago, and those warnings hadn't been heeded, and they saw you | :06:33. | :06:37. | |
boarding an oil rig, they had to take the action that they took. Do | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
you agree with that? I think that works both ways. You know, they felt | :06:42. | :06:45. | |
that they had to take action but we also feel that we have to take | :06:46. | :06:50. | |
action. They felt what we were doing is wrong, but we know what they are | :06:51. | :06:56. | |
doing is wrong. Scientific fact states that the climate is changing. | :06:57. | :07:02. | |
And the icecaps are receding. If we don't do something who will stand up | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
and say now is the time to act. We can't leave it too long. There are | :07:08. | :07:12. | |
no constituents for the planet. We need it all realise we have to do | :07:13. | :07:16. | |
something for it now. I have been frustrated at times, I have been | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
very angry at times, but ultimately this is the price for standing up to | :07:21. | :07:27. | |
be counted. I would do nothing different. I'm not saying that we | :07:28. | :07:31. | |
should go out and do the exact same thing again. That wouldn't be | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
helpful or creative. I think Greenpeace has shown that it is | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
constantly creative in the way in which it tries to fight climate | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
change and I think this has been done, so something else will be done | :07:46. | :07:49. | |
next time. It has certainly got the conversation going in Russia and I | :07:50. | :07:54. | |
think to that end we have succeeded greatly. | :07:55. | :08:00. | |
Thank you very much indeed. A US senator has acted on the story | :08:01. | :08:04. | |
broken earlier this month by Newsnight that Saudi Arabia had | :08:05. | :08:08. | |
invested in Pakistan's nuclear weapons programme and in turn could | :08:09. | :08:14. | |
obtain atomic bombs at will. Ed Markey who sits on the committee of | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
foreign relations sought reassurance from the White House. What is the | :08:19. | :08:24. | |
senator actually requesting? He's clearly concerned that while the | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
attention has been on Iran, Saudi Arabia has been making preparations. | :08:30. | :08:33. | |
It has been saying explicitly to the US for years that it was making | :08:34. | :08:36. | |
preparations to go nuclear if Iran was ready to do the same. In his | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
letter to the President, which we have obtained, he says: | :08:41. | :08:53. | |
Essentially he's asking President Obama is this right? That the Saudis | :08:54. | :08:59. | |
and Pakistanies have this understanding that in extremists the | :09:00. | :09:05. | |
Saudis could get nuclear warheads and what is he going to do about it. | :09:06. | :09:09. | |
Pakistan has denied the story, what if their side is right? They have | :09:10. | :09:15. | |
denied it, we had Pakistani sources, former officials who said they | :09:16. | :09:18. | |
believed the story of the deal with Saudi Arabia was true. But they have | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
denied it. Saudi Arabia hasn't. That is causing some people to think, | :09:24. | :09:26. | |
well could the Saudis have some other track to nuclear weapons, | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
possibly. Something that might even continue even if there is a deal on | :09:31. | :09:36. | |
the Iranian nuclear programme, and Senator Markey is particularly | :09:37. | :09:39. | |
concerned about reports that the US has been negotiating a nuclear | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
technology-sharing agreement with Saudi Arabia. He writes to the | :09:44. | :09:49. | |
President: Of course the President may well | :09:50. | :10:02. | |
argue that the most important thing he can do to address these concerns | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
is complete this deal with the Iranians to halt their programme and | :10:07. | :10:11. | |
therefore calm the regional situation, news tonight, Foreign | :10:12. | :10:15. | |
Minister Lavrov has gone to Geneva where those talks are taking place. | :10:16. | :10:18. | |
Mr Hague, the British Foreign Secretary will go tomorrow morning. | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
John Kerry also on his way, they may be close to some sort of interim | :10:23. | :10:26. | |
deal on the Iranian nuclear question. The Peercoin, the other | :10:27. | :10:39. | |
coins making the Bitcoin look passe. They have exploded on to the public | :10:40. | :10:44. | |
imagination, fans are hoping it is the passport to the quick fortune. | :10:45. | :10:48. | |
These currencies bypass Governments and central banks, regulation and | :10:49. | :10:51. | |
oversight. It is the thing that makes them so attractive, but | :10:52. | :10:55. | |
ultimately uncontrollable. They have been seen since their inception a | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
shadowy form of trade. This week they got the seal of approval, or at | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
least recognition by none other than the Fed chairman. Has their time | :11:05. | :11:11. | |
come? # There is nothing quite as | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
beautiful as money # There is nothing quite as | :11:15. | :11:19. | |
beautiful as cash # With money you can make a splash! | :11:20. | :11:25. | |
What is money? For most people it means cash, here in this East End | :11:26. | :11:31. | |
market the only way is cash. Fold it up, put it in your pocket or stuff | :11:32. | :11:35. | |
it in your mattress, it is something you can believe in. In some quarters | :11:36. | :11:39. | |
that belief in paper money is beginning to crumble. Some things | :11:40. | :11:43. | |
have value because they are either desirable or rare. Like gold, | :11:44. | :11:48. | |
diamonds or famous works of art. The problem with money is that it is | :11:49. | :11:51. | |
anything but rare. Central banks around the world are printing the | :11:52. | :11:54. | |
stuff like it is going out of fashion. For some people it already | :11:55. | :12:00. | |
has. Using horribly complicated computer code, programmers have | :12:01. | :12:03. | |
replicated some of the qualities we value in something like gold. | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
Powerful computers compete like prospectors to unearth or mine the | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
coins in cyberspace, but there is a fine night supply of them. Here you | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
have a token, which is impossible to dilute, impossible to counterfeit, | :12:18. | :12:23. | |
and just like people would consider buying gold during inflationary | :12:24. | :12:29. | |
times, they are considering buying Bitcoin and buying Bitcoin, many | :12:30. | :12:31. | |
people are buying Bitcoin because they are afraid of inflation. All | :12:32. | :12:35. | |
very clever, what is the use of something that only exists in the | :12:36. | :12:39. | |
ether. You can't take that down the pub. Well actually you can! Right, a | :12:40. | :12:46. | |
drink I think. To buy a drink I'm going to need one of these, or one | :12:47. | :12:52. | |
of these. There you go. That will be ?3. 20. Thank you very much, that | :12:53. | :13:01. | |
was zero. 0071 Bitcoins to pay. So far virtual currencies have been in | :13:02. | :13:04. | |
the shadows of the financial system, an experiment in creating a new form | :13:05. | :13:09. | |
of exchange. But when the world's most powerful banker name checks | :13:10. | :13:11. | |
them, people sit up and listen. A word or phrase from the Fed | :13:12. | :13:27. | |
chairman can move markets, this was no exception, Bitcoins soared in | :13:28. | :13:31. | |
value after the recent comments. Bitcoins are now worth ?730 each, | :13:32. | :13:38. | |
two years ago it was three. Virtual currencies have been used across | :13:39. | :13:45. | |
cyberspace. currencies have been used across | :13:46. | :16:11. | |
two years ago it was three. Virtual currencies have been used across | :16:12. | :16:31. | |
two years ago it was three. Virtual happening in the central blanks. And | :16:32. | :16:31. | |
two years ago it was three. Virtual moving into something that they | :16:32. | :16:59. | |
It is a socioeconomic movement we are going through at the moment, | :17:00. | :17:04. | |
every time you have that you have to have the money behind it, a currency | :17:05. | :17:07. | |
behind that, be that golden. At the moment this seems to be Bitcoin. | :17:08. | :17:11. | |
What do you mean it is a socioeconomic move? It is a | :17:12. | :17:14. | |
libertarian movement, it is a "by the people for the people" get away | :17:15. | :17:18. | |
from big Government and big industry, get away from the people | :17:19. | :17:23. | |
polluting the seas, the Internet and the global financial crisis. The | :17:24. | :17:29. | |
LIBOR scandals, the scandals in HSBC, they are talking about Silk | :17:30. | :17:34. | |
Road and HSBC, the current scandal can Co-Op bank, people are scared by | :17:35. | :17:37. | |
the banking in this country and around the world. But you heard the | :17:38. | :17:41. | |
point the commentator made that people think it is a post-Government | :17:42. | :17:44. | |
currency, it is not, because the Government can step on it or stamp | :17:45. | :17:47. | |
it out if they want to? That is false. Why? Because it is completely | :17:48. | :17:55. | |
outside, it is like P-to-P file swapping hitting the music industry, | :17:56. | :18:00. | |
this is the same thing with money. With the current regulatory | :18:01. | :18:04. | |
environment will be as effective at stopping that as the music industry. | :18:05. | :18:08. | |
Governments have already seized Bitcoins. And they couldn't hack | :18:09. | :18:12. | |
into it. The Bitcoins... If they see it as a threat they will take it off | :18:13. | :18:17. | |
the people, we all know that. How do they do that then? How do they take | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
it off people? It is just like I have cash in my waet now, there is | :18:22. | :18:26. | |
no way of insuring your Bitcoins against loss. That is one of the | :18:27. | :18:29. | |
fears. They can take it off you or get it off your computer. This is | :18:30. | :18:33. | |
what is happening in this industry, the environment in the US and the UK | :18:34. | :18:38. | |
versus the rest of the world, China, India, around the world, Bitcoin is | :18:39. | :18:41. | |
the unbanked of the world. Six billion people don't have access to | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
banking infrastructure as such are now using these currencies with | :18:47. | :18:48. | |
their mobile technologies, and they will lead this market. The number | :18:49. | :18:52. | |
one market for Bitcoin is in China. If the US and the UK don't want to | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
compete in this market they can go home, we don't want them to compete | :18:58. | :19:00. | |
in this market. When you say Bitcoin to people, a lot of people will | :19:01. | :19:03. | |
think of the dark net, the drugs, the child porn, the rather seedy | :19:04. | :19:07. | |
side of the transactions that people don't want to do up front. Isn't | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
that where Bitcoin is going to stay? No, of course not. That is a very | :19:12. | :19:17. | |
minor part. When Silk Road was busted the Bitcoin started to move | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
up in value because you got rid of what was perceived a bad agent in | :19:22. | :19:24. | |
the market. There is a commerce element to Bitcoin, fine, the | :19:25. | :19:29. | |
majority of reason we are looking at Bitcoin now is the increase in | :19:30. | :19:33. | |
price. That is what takes it way in currency. If I owe you ?200 and it | :19:34. | :19:39. | |
is trading at ?2 and I give you a Bitcoin and say the debt is done, | :19:40. | :19:43. | |
tomorrow the Bitcoin halves and I get away with not paying you ?100. | :19:44. | :19:52. | |
The market is so volatile people can't use it as exchange currency. | :19:53. | :19:59. | |
There is no currency. 16% risk we are seeing on daily basis the | :20:00. | :20:05. | |
Instant transaction like bit-pay. Which not many people will take at | :20:06. | :20:08. | |
the moment? It is a huge industry. What about all the other currency, I | :20:09. | :20:12. | |
mentioned at the beginning there, the Peercoin, and the lobe bow nick | :20:13. | :20:17. | |
Celt and all the rest of it. If you can do an algorithm you want to code | :20:18. | :20:33. | |
a new coin? Internet affect -- internet affectation. Would you | :20:34. | :20:36. | |
invest in it? I had a look at it a couple of years ago looked at the | :20:37. | :20:41. | |
infrastructure and sold it back. Sir Richard brandson is looking at | :20:42. | :20:44. | |
Bitcoin for his interspacial flight new programme, he has already booked | :20:45. | :20:49. | |
a quarter of a million dollar seat with it. There are 20,000 merchants | :20:50. | :20:55. | |
that accept Bitcoin and it is growing in popularity. Thank you. | :20:56. | :20:58. | |
Probably the most influential man you have never heard of, the | :20:59. | :21:06. | |
Chingford-born design genius behind some of apple's most ubiquitous | :21:07. | :21:12. | |
products. In keeping with their it is a ternity, tacit ternity, he | :21:13. | :21:20. | |
rarely gives interviews. Joining with Bono for a charity event he | :21:21. | :21:34. | |
broke his silence. Designed doesn't get any more rarified and bespoke | :21:35. | :21:39. | |
than this. 43 one-off pieces, specially commissioned for an | :21:40. | :21:44. | |
auction in New York. The famous face of the sale is the singer Bono. But | :21:45. | :21:52. | |
apple's design supremo Sir Johnny Ine is the man sweating over the | :21:53. | :21:57. | |
nuts and bolts, you would be hard pressed to find one here. What is | :21:58. | :22:01. | |
interesting about these things is they are so purposeful, and there is | :22:02. | :22:06. | |
incredible beauty cons Kent of just how focussed and -- consequent of | :22:07. | :22:11. | |
how focussed and beautiful they are. Mostly you don't know who designed | :22:12. | :22:15. | |
them or their biography, but you see what they do, and they do it so | :22:16. | :22:20. | |
beautifully. A private view of the lot, before they are auctioned | :22:21. | :22:25. | |
tomorrow more Bono's Product Red Charity. Which raises money to | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
tackle AIDS, Malaria and TB in Africa. This is a tune earlier I | :22:31. | :22:35. | |
wrote on it. # Strangers in the night (plays out | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
of tune # Exchanging glances | :22:40. | :22:45. | |
# Lovers at first sight. Don't give up the day job, | :22:46. | :23:20. | |
to get ready. I thought OK, I thought I would see all of them, and | :23:21. | :23:23. | |
be trusted to see all the new apple products. And I walked in. I hope | :23:24. | :23:29. | |
you will tell us about it, these guys won't? They had them all | :23:30. | :23:33. | |
covered which was upsetting. I just saws desks -- saw desks everywhere | :23:34. | :23:40. | |
with these cloths, as well as hurt I thought that was a very dull grey. | :23:41. | :23:49. | |
Despite apple's strange approach of pre-viewing its goodies, I was | :23:50. | :23:53. | |
willing to discuss this computer, spoiler alert it is not out yet. | :23:54. | :23:58. | |
This is the MacPro, just launched. It is like a number of the PCs here, | :23:59. | :24:07. | |
it is made from alluminium, we experimented with anodisinging it in | :24:08. | :24:16. | |
-- anodising it. The apple product will be in the grey, but this is the | :24:17. | :24:20. | |
only one. What if there is a huge demand, it is too bad? There is just | :24:21. | :24:25. | |
one. The approach was just to have essentially CPU, just the actual | :24:26. | :24:30. | |
computing brain. And make that as fast as possible. But the cooling | :24:31. | :24:33. | |
system actually means that it runs very quietly. Is it inspired by a | :24:34. | :24:38. | |
wine cooler, because it lose look a little like a very sophisticated one | :24:39. | :24:42. | |
doesn't it? I think what is more interesting is the inside. You | :24:43. | :24:45. | |
actually see how it has been infigured about this central | :24:46. | :24:49. | |
chimney, the air is pulled in through the bottom. That is a handle | :24:50. | :25:48. | |
. I think as part of the human condition we sense when people care. | :25:49. | :25:51. | |
We probably sense more when people don't care. And the majority of our | :25:52. | :25:57. | |
manufactured environment, testifies to people actually not really caring | :25:58. | :26:04. | |
about us. Space, in fact, and fiction, has been a major influence | :26:05. | :26:10. | |
on apple's lead designer. No wonder he has included a space shuttle in | :26:11. | :26:13. | |
the auction. Not a whole one. This is a window. And also I think the | :26:14. | :26:18. | |
shape is just extraordinary as well. Do you think design and engineering | :26:19. | :26:23. | |
gets the credit it deserves? Does Government give it enough attention, | :26:24. | :26:29. | |
is it, is enough time spent on it at school and university. Are we | :26:30. | :26:35. | |
encouraging people to be good at what you guys are exemplares of? | :26:36. | :26:41. | |
There is certainly an issue, it is an expensive subject to teach. | :26:42. | :26:47. | |
Because it requires workshops and machinery. So sadly there is not | :26:48. | :26:52. | |
the, you know when we were growing up and certainly in the UK the UK | :26:53. | :26:59. | |
has had an incredible tradition of design education. There is certainly | :27:00. | :27:03. | |
not the same commitment, you don't see as many workshops when you work | :27:04. | :27:08. | |
around schools now. Some may feel there is a large element of boys | :27:09. | :27:12. | |
toys about this show and this auction. And they may think that it | :27:13. | :27:19. | |
might be better and easier if apple and you didn't just reach into your | :27:20. | :27:23. | |
pockets and make a contribution that way? You know apple are leading | :27:24. | :27:27. | |
right out front. They are the largest corporate donor to the | :27:28. | :27:32. | |
global fund, which is the mechanism to get these AIDS drugs to people | :27:33. | :27:35. | |
who don't have them. They are very quiet about it, they are very apple | :27:36. | :27:38. | |
about it, it is annoying sometimes, because they are doing such great | :27:39. | :27:44. | |
work. Again, I just say to you, this is quite a sly political tool. And | :27:45. | :27:50. | |
we can all give and do you know, our band, U two is also Red, but that's | :27:51. | :27:57. | |
the point is the neon, the excitement, the sort of making this | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
a political priority by keeping it in the public discussion. There is | :28:03. | :28:08. | |
still time to get your bids in. Though a Russian oligarch is said to | :28:09. | :28:17. | |
be determined to snap up the Soyuz spacesuit. Just the papers before | :28:18. | :29:23. | |
That is all tonight, but those of a certain age can remember where they | :29:24. | :29:28. | |
were 50 years ago today when they heard the news, that of President | :29:29. | :29:33. | |
Kennedy's assassination. We will leave you with the sharp images of | :29:34. | :29:37. | |
those moments in 1963. Good night. | :29:38. | :29:44. |