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Mr Osborne's new job makes it onto the front page of his new paper

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although the main splash is reserved for a supposed mopeds maniac on the

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11. Friends of Mr Osborne have told Newsnight he taken this job because

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he felt that 45, he was too young to retire and that editing a paper like

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the Evening Standard is exciting, new and challenging. But who will Mr

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Osborne now be speaking for? I will speak for London and Londoners

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through this paper, as its editor. We will judge whatever the

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government does, what ever the mayor does against that simple test, is it

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good for London or not? In his constituency, 130 miles away in

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Cheshire, definitely not in London, the News of the MP's new job was

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greeted by some with incredulity. What? He's going to be the editor of

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the Evening Standard in London? We're asking people you think. I

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don't think very much of it, to be quite honest. He's not a journalist,

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is it? But he's going to be the paper's editor. That's what I mean,

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not a journalist so how can he be an editor. Which brings us onto the

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next problem. Will you stand down as an MP. Mr Osborne says he will work

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as a newspaper editor for days a week but only until lunchtime. This

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is edited primarily in the morning and parliament votes in the

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afternoon. You can work as many hours as you like but to do the

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Evening Standard properly, you have to work a lot of hours. And I think

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you should be an outsider. George as the former Chancellor is the

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ultimate insider, while still being a member of Parliament. You have not

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willing pushed any of that. You are party to a whole heap of things.

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Journalists are outsiders, that is what we do, we question things, we

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challenge things. You can't be part of too many great institutions. It's

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not like he has not got plenty of other jobs as well, since being

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sacked by Theresa May last July, he earned ?771,000 for public speaking

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although these engagements don't seem to take too much of the MP's

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time. In November, he earned ?85,000 for a speech to Citibank which

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according to the register of members interests, was three hours work. He

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gets ?650,000 per year as an adviser to Blackrock investment in return

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for just one day per week's work. He will also get an unspecified number

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of shares at a later date. He also gets ?120,000 at Kissinger fella is

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the McCain is a dude, making a total of ?1.54 million which does not

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include his full-time job as MP for Tatton. Among George Osborne's

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Conservative MPs, the reaction to his job has not been uniformly good.

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One told us it makes us all like part-timers on the make. Another

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asked whether he planned to use his new position to frustrate the

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government's attempts to get a clean Brexit. Even MPs who are supportive

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of Mr Osborne admits that they worry about what he might have to do to

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prove his impartiality as a newspaper editor. I think if you are

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a Conservative MP, far for me conserve -- conflict of interest

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benefiting the Conservative Party, one would hope that George won't

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over correct and actually perhaps be a bit more critical of the

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Conservative Party than the Evening Standard has been. And also, the

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politics journalists of the Evening Standard are well-known. They are

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very strong minded people. I'm not sure they are going to allow George

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Osborne to interfere, and nor would he want to do so in political

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coverage. Labour have tonight written to the permanent Secretary

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of the Cabinet Office asking for an investigation into whether Mr

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Osborne has broken the rules on former ministers taking new jobs. Mr

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Osborne shouldn't, perhaps, remove his hard hat just yet.

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The editors' union will be green for days a week and half a day as well.

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But come on editors have been bizarre people throughout history.

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Before the war, they were politicians effectively. I don't

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think it is a big problem in itself. He can organise his day, I'm

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assuming he will be a sort of editor in chief and someone else will run

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the paper but you can't run a paper for half a day. George Osborne is an

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intelligent man, he appreciates that. Much more problematic for him

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I think is really whether he can be a poacher in the morning and the

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gamekeeper in the afternoon. Journalists have gone back and forth

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but they have not done the same job at the same time. I think it is

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difficult. He is aware of this, I'm sure. It is difficult to slam of

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your friend in the morning and go and talk to them in the afternoon.

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He is a party politician and you can do that, you know, one year and then

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be in editor and a beer but to do it within the course of 24 hours, I

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think he will find it very difficult and it's going to be interesting to

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see. The conflict-of-interest of the top of my head, what happens if the

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cheap reporter at the standard comes in with a scoop about the unfolding

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Conservative expenses problems and says, "We have traced this one all

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the way back to the then Chancellor, Boss". It's going to raise a big

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question as to which is his day job, editing the standard or being a

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loyal Tory backbencher? I suggest that he's probably gone it's

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probably going to be the former. His constituency in Tatton is being

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redrawn anyway. It interests me that he has not decided to dump the

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voters of Tatton already. Evgeny Lebedev has described him as a

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Londoner through and through which might be news to them. It just

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strikes me that he feels he has more power running a newspaper, however

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many hours in the day he does so, than he does as a backbencher when

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all signs of dissent are stifled by the autocracy of the Tory right and

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his passion for the Remain cause and Europe, he's not allowed to give

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voice to that because he's called an enemy of the people and stamped on.

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Of course, he has had to leave Parliament in order to make these

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points using a very effective platform of a big London daily

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freesheet. Good for him. Good for him? Because it gives him the

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freedom to say the things he does not have the freedom to say? From a

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selfish perspective, he saying the things that I don't big enough

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people are saying, and being quelled, look at the MPs who voted

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to Remain who then had to vote for Article 50. Dissent is not permitted

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in Parliament any more but luckily still in the press. For now! The

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other question that springs to mind, Simon, is whether there is a bigger

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game plan. Try to work out what he hopes to get out of this and you

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Adam in most people, yourself included, achieving the editor 's

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chair is in end of protests, but there's a suspicion this is the

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beginning of a process but no one quite knows what that is. You are

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dealing with an intelligent man who has a game plan of some sort but we

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are not privy to it. I think editing a newspaper is more fun than being a

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backbencher and he probably thinks that too. But where he is going, we

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don't know. Is inherently not sustainable, it has to be said.

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Writing to horses. These particular to horses, let's not underestimate

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the sky, the fact of the matter is, he will be watched very closely for

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the things that Rachel is mentioning. His own staff will be

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watching him like a walk. They will be teasing him with stories about

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his friend in the London's diary. It will be hell for him at times. But

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it won't be dull. London's diary is the gossip column, for people

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outside the capital, which has a political bent at the best of times

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and will probably be more political now. What is good news for the

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standard is he won't have taken this job without promises of investment

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and jobs and so one because without that, you will be discredited. He's

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got to have been given various understandings which will be good

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for the newspaper. But that it self speaks of an understanding about how

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newspapers were and I don't think it would be uncharitable to suggest

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there's not a great deal of evidence to support the idea he has the

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vaguest understanding of how newspapers work. You do an

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editorship for half a day, you will not be the full-time editor of that

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newspaper. He's got a good team there, very good people working with

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him. He will effectively be the editor in chief, I think. It's

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perfectly feasible. It's been done before. But as you mentioned,

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resources and investment, he's not going to know where best to put the

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money. People will. He will have a very close relationship with Evgeny

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Lebedev, the proprietor, that is a given. That is the best security any

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paper can have. What is in it for him? His long-term gain. For

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Lebedev? He's got a star editor, access to people in power, things

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that proprietors always love about only newspapers. Not that this is

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necessarily the most popular angle to adopt but show some sympathy for

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the ordinary journalist now. Forgive me if my years are slightly wrong

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but how would you have felt when you are poised to resume the editorship

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of the times and then it was announced Norman Lamont had got the

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job? I would have been very annoyed! And someone like you, Rachel? You

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might have thrown your hat into the ring for the job or similar and then

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it turned out the former Chancellor can come out of nowhere? You're

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right, if I'd known a few weeks ago that someone with

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less experience than the messenger boy on the Brighton evening Argos

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was going to take the helm of one of the largest circulation newspapers

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in the country, I would have been in there like a bathtub drainpipe but

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there we are. In the old days, journalist have aspired to be

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politicians. In the New World order, the new, crazy world we live in,

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politicians are aspiring to be journalists so what does that say

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about the relative power bases of Parliament and the fourth estate? I

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don't know but it is interesting that he clearly thinks he can have

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more fun and more influence doing both. He's not having to dues at the

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moment. It is the new politics. At risk of the list becoming endless,

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he is also the chairperson of the Northern Powerhouse partnership. It

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is an unpaid position but I think he is going to scrape by with some of

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his other remunerations. We are all in this together. He's in his prime

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job together. ?2700 per person in London spent on transport, ?201 in

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Yorkshire and ?5 in the north-east. How can he represents the Northern

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Powerhouse while also come as both Lebedev and he said today,

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campaigning for the rights and pleasures of London?

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He is now running the Southern powerhouse. And the North can

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whistle. From his point of view. You had better ask him. I can sense he

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has seen his future is in London. Whenever anyone says they are

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passionate about anything in their state but you know they are talking

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through their hat. Jacob Rees-Mogg suggested this could be a precursor

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to a bid to be Mayor. I would believe anything at this stage. By

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the end of this interview he will probably be the director-general of

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the BBC. He could be presenting Newsnight on Monday! The 1922

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committee is supposed to be out confidential conclave, it is not

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supposed to have any outlets to the outside world and yet you will have

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the editor of the daily newspaper sitting in it. Can you imagine he

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will be under pressure to bring in scoops? We could have problems. They

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should sack him if he does not! This has happened before. You have had

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this close relationship between editor's chairs and politicians and

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in the old days, the editor of the daily Herald was in and out of the

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Labour Party office. Those with the old days. They are not overreact.

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You are right to point it out, I think there will be a lot of trouble

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in that area because people will be watching. On a personal level, what

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about negative stories regarding David Cameron or some of his other

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political allies? Can you foresee enormous tensions if the troops are

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prevented from bringing their stories to the paper? They will be

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encouraged to do so by the prospect of possibly embarrassing their

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editor. The internal dynamics of a newspaper or a change with the

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editor is in that position. I presume that George Osborne knows

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what he is doing but there will be embarrassing things for them,

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editors have it anyway. You speak so casually because you are immersed in

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that world and he is not. If he is not, he has got a problem. We --

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when will we be able to judge if it has been a success or not? It is

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difficult with the standard because you do not have the normal Leavers.

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If advertising craters or all the staff leave en masse... Watch this

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space. You give the paper away. Many thanks.

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Donald Trump has just met Angela Merkel in Washington.

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shown himself an enthusiastic advocate of the handshake.

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Sometimes they've appeared to go on painfully long.

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But today was not one of those times.

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He rejected the formal clinch with German Chancellor Angela Merkel,

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and the two faced off in an awkward tension - to the shout

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from press photographers - mirroring in their body language

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what we know already of their political difference.

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This - it was clear from the start - was never going to be a love-in.

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And at the heart of it lay the question of America's broader

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mean an isolationist approach to foreign policy?

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Donald Trump has been deeply critical of foreign trade

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and national security agreements, but the president suggested

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that he was only trying to revise them to serve US interests,

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not pull back from the world entirely.

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His blueprint for a budget, released earlier this week,

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suggested he would like a huge rise in defence spending and big cuts

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to the State Department, which does all the diplomacy.

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Diplomacy, as we know, not always his strongest suit.

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When asked today whether he regretted any of his past

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tweets about Merkel, he replied, "Very seldom".

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When he was first elected, her support for Mr Trump

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TRANSLATION: Germany and America are connected through shared values,

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democracy, freedom, respect of the law and dignity of man,

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independent of origin, the colour of skin,

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religion, gender, sexual orientation or political views.

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On the basis of these values, I am offering the

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future US president Donald Trump close cooperation.

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Chancellor Merkel, it is a great honour to

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welcome you to the people's house, the White House.

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What will that look like for the world?

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Joining me now, Jeffrey Rathke, senior fellow and deputy director

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of the Europe Programme at CSIS and Constanze Stelzenmueller,

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It is lovely to have you here. Let's get this handshake or the

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non-handshake out of the way. Do you think it was an arrangement or a

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mistake? Who looks awkward and who looks stronger? If you look at the

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greeting at the West Wing, they shook hands, came into the building,

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it was an awkward moment in the Oval Office. I think that we will forget

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over time. I think what they talked about and their press availability,

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that leaves a lot to try and dissect. A certain coolness from

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Angela Merkel does her nil disfavour at home. She knows full well that

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the American President is deeply unpopular at home and she was

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walking a thin line between being professional and seeking a working

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relationship with Germany's most important transatlantic ally and not

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making a fool of herself and I think she succeeded rather well in this

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and she managed to plug in a bit of dry wit from time to time and if you

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saw her bemused smile when he made that clap about wiretapping, you saw

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she was relaxed as well. Where is this relationship going? Will they

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do trade together? It was odd that there was no mention, almost a sort

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of silence where the European Union would have been? If we peel away the

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atmospherics and ask where is the transatlantic relationship today,

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how was it different than it was yesterday, I think if you look at

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security, and cooperation on fighting terrorism, you see some

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progress. If you talk about trade, I think we are left with a lot of

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questions. The President was not ready to say the words European

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even, even though he heard about it from Angela Merkel and yesterday

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from the Irish Taoiseach and from Theresa May who said a strong EU is

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in the interests of Britain. The Taoiseach was keen to enforce how

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critical that was for the Irish interest, so what is it that Donald

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Trump does not want to face up to in the EU? Is it that he will not trade

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with it as a body? We know from his advisers that they think the EU is

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essentially a smoke screen for German domination of Europe and the

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Germans are using the EU and the euro as a front for their own

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national interest. I would say that portrays a certain lack of

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understanding of how the EU actually works and that it works for other

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countries and that Germany's options of manipulating the EU and the

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currency are relatively limited. The European Central Bank has been doing

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quantitative easing against the violent protests of the government.

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He won't not trade with Germany or the body? He does not really have a

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choice. I think Angela Merkel was quite right not to push them on this

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because you are not going to have a seminar on European Union here in

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front of the President and the world press. I think she will leave that

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on the table as a learning process to be had. There is a G20 meeting

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and the G seven meeting in the spring and I think the important

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thing is that she said, do not forget that there are a lot of

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German investment and jobs created in America and she mentioned and

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very thinly veiled threat that if you do punitive taxes, so come way.

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What was interesting was that he definitely was emphatic about the

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fact he was not rolling back from an involvement in the world, that this

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America first, was not an isolationist policy and he said it

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quite like Nato. It is all sort of relative, but he was talking at one

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stage, about arrears, is that this idea that you would get those

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countries who have not paid their dues to actually pay back tax. This

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idea has come up a couple of times and he does not seem to be backing

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away from it. If you look at what he said, he said two quite positive

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things, I am a supporter of Nato, he recognised Germany's efforts to

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spend 2% of their GDP in line with what Nato has agreed, starting in

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Wales in 2014 and then he said, that there are nations that all vast sums

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of money for past years. That is not something that Nato leaders have

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ever agreed to. There is no concept of arrears. Where this comes from is

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unclear but it is certainly not going to fly. If this remains part

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of the US agenda before the Nato summit... I know it goes against

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everything you think. If you fail to pay your dues, they do not pile up

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in Nato, it does not work that way. Could he withhold the mutual

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defence... He has threatened that and he will find it does not work

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and the other member states including Canada will say we do not

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do it this way. Nobody is going to boot the US out of Nato! It is not

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going to happen. The Germans and other Europeans can make a very

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persuasive point that they have been increasing their defence budget is

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since 2014, the aggression of the Russians in Crimea and Ukraine and

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that they are gorged having a much higher defence budgets and the

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Russians in Crimea and Ukraine and that they are gorged having a much

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higher defence budgets and they can make military and it resides in the

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political realm as well the board in propaganda warfare in the EU. What

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you also have here is a growing political consensus that the forward

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defence of Europe is defence of America. I think that is also a

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changing element here that is important to keep in mind and there

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are other ways. The US administration could ask countries

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to raise their spending faster and there are other ways to try and move

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this along. If we look at where we are now, two months into the Trump

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administration, what this tells us about his foreign policy, one thing

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that has become clear is that in a sense, he does not really put a vast

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value on diplomacy. His skinny budget as it is called talks about

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cutting the State Department, you know the State Department well, you

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were there and putting more money into defence and whether or not he

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gets his budget through is a different thing but for him the

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State Department and that diplomacy is not very valuable, right? I think

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his generals would beg to disagree. Knowing the American military, they

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would be the first to say, we would always like more money for defence

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but if you cut the development budget and you cut the state

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department budget like this, we will be left holding babies that we do

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not want to hold and we will be asked by you to solve problems that

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we cannot solve. Whether it works or does not, he does with a phone call

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and a tweet. There are entrenched forces of resistance. Let's keep in

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mind, we are at a point where we are not yet dealing with an

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international prices, we are talking about a largely theoretical

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discussion where Congress is lining up in a different place. I think,

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the Department of defence, including the secretary of defence, they value

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the contribution that diplomats make because they do things that you

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cannot ask the military to do, whether that is development in some

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cases or it is civilian security assistance, working with law

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enforcement, working with the officials who can help fight

:27:42.:27:45.

terrorism and share information with the United States, things that our

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military, as good as it is, things they are not trained to do. And do

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not want to do. They know full well that others are better at doing it

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and should be doing it. I would expect significant resistance that

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and I do not expect the President have a lot of success with this

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idea. That's all from Washington for now,

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we'll be back on Monday as President Trump fights to get

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those in his own party to agree to his reforms

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for America's healthcare. the poet and playwright

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Derek Walcott died this morning He was 87 years old and had been

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in poor health for some time. Linguistically fearless

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and thematically epic in scope, the Nobel Laureate and winner

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of most major international poetry prizes nevertheless saw himself

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as an avowedly Caribbean writer. It is fitting, then,

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that the Jamaican British poet Linton Kwesi Johnson should close

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proceedings tonight with a recital The time will come

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when, with elation you will greet yourself arriving

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at your own door, in your own mirror and each will smile

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at the other's welcome, You will love again

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the stranger who was yourself. Give back your heart to itself,

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to the stranger who has loved you all your life, whom you ignored

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for another, who knows you by heart. Take down the love letters

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from the book shelf, the photographs,

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the desperate notes, Good evening. Away from the North of

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Scotland and one will not

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