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Fillon, and he's family receiving payments. He denies it. Tempi, Rita | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
chakra Barty is here with a full round-up of the day 's news, first | :00:00. | :00:07. | |
it is on his watch. And there and welcome to news watch | :00:08. | :00:16. | |
with me Samira Ahmed. On this programme, is BBC News doing deals | :00:17. | :00:20. | |
with celebrities? She gets to talk about their new film, they get to | :00:21. | :00:24. | |
ask about the divorce. It was a very difficult time, and, we are a | :00:25. | :00:31. | |
family. And we will always be a family. But first has stormed Doris | :00:32. | :00:40. | |
battered many parts of the UK on Thursday, it could only mean one | :00:41. | :00:44. | |
thing for BBC news reporters, you know what is coming next. Here's | :00:45. | :00:51. | |
Alison Freeman. We saw you earlier almost unable to stand up, it | :00:52. | :00:55. | |
doesn't look much better now? It isn't Rita, we have just watched | :00:56. | :00:59. | |
this storm unfold throughout the morning, as the wind has become more | :01:00. | :01:03. | |
and more powerful. It is so strong at the moment I can't look into it, | :01:04. | :01:08. | |
and the foam that has been blown from the seat is a bit more like | :01:09. | :01:13. | |
being in a blizzard. But was that piece of broadcasting and location | :01:14. | :01:19. | |
necessary, why is also? Carol J left us this message. I'm sure that the | :01:20. | :01:23. | |
BBC will say that we do not put our reporters in danger and that she is | :01:24. | :01:30. | |
OK. Not everyone however, may be as responsible, I use that term likely, | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
as the BBC. They may think, let us go and stand on Blackpool and they | :01:36. | :01:39. | |
get blown over and hurt even worse cirrus to hurt or killed and will | :01:40. | :01:44. | |
the BBC take responsibility? There is no need to have that woman | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
standing in that position, encouraging others to think it is OK | :01:49. | :01:55. | |
because it isn't. Newspeak is radio one's News service targeting 16 to | :01:56. | :02:00. | |
29-year-olds, story is true on ordinary members of the public doing | :02:01. | :02:03. | |
something on social media that quickly get picked up and printed | :02:04. | :02:08. | |
widely. This week it is a story about a 20-year-old American student | :02:09. | :02:12. | |
called Nick who graded and critiqued a break-up letter from a ex-friend | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
he posted it on social media where it went viral. Newspeak republished | :02:17. | :02:22. | |
his tweet showing the letter. A number of people complained about | :02:23. | :02:27. | |
the invasion of a young woman's Prevacid, including somebody who | :02:28. | :02:32. | |
said it was aiding the online harassment. And the BBC had | :02:33. | :02:35. | |
published it purely for entertainment. | :02:36. | :02:43. | |
Well we asked Newspeak for a response and this is what they told | :02:44. | :02:53. | |
us: -- Newsbeat. Now on Sunday night the News at ten | :02:54. | :03:18. | |
reported as one of its headline stories on a new film about | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
Cambodia's Khmer Rouge regime in 1970s which is being released later | :03:24. | :03:27. | |
this year on Netflix. It might not sound like obvious mainstream news | :03:28. | :03:30. | |
material but its inclusion in the bulletin may have sung to do with | :03:31. | :03:36. | |
the identity of its direct, Jolie. What happened to its people was not | :03:37. | :03:41. | |
properly understood. And not just for the world but for the people of | :03:42. | :03:45. | |
the country, I felt that I wanted them to be able to reflect on its. | :03:46. | :03:54. | |
Angelina Jolie is keen to tell the story and focus on this country and | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
its past but it has been difficult to keep the spotlight off her own | :03:59. | :04:02. | |
personal life. Wii nine incident occurred the undead to your | :04:03. | :04:05. | |
separation, also know that you haven't said anything about this. -- | :04:06. | :04:09. | |
we know that an incident occurred about your separation. Only that, I | :04:10. | :04:20. | |
don't want to say very much about that. Except to say it was a very | :04:21. | :04:30. | |
difficult time, and we are a family. That interview also ran the | :04:31. | :04:34. | |
following day on breakfast and a news channel featured on the news | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
website, and as part of a documentary shown on BBC world News. | :04:39. | :04:42. | |
The driving force behind it was Julie Angus, the deputy director of | :04:43. | :04:46. | |
the BBC World Service. He joins us now. First, can you tell us how did | :04:47. | :04:53. | |
you get that Angelina Jolie interview? Yes of course, we decided | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
that it would be editorially interesting and important to take | :04:59. | :05:01. | |
the advantage of being able to go to Cambodia and make a feature about | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
the film. And it is good that you explained that this is part of a | :05:06. | :05:08. | |
longer documentary, one of the important things to bear in mind | :05:09. | :05:11. | |
about this piece is that we are going to be producing a 23 minute | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
documentary which will run on the BBC world News Channel and on a news | :05:16. | :05:21. | |
channel here in the UK and indeed a radio documentary. So what we did | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
was gather quite a lot of material and we cut down some of it, | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
broadcast ahead of time. So that, the audiences who watch those main | :05:30. | :05:34. | |
bulletins on BBC One, would see the news piece. Just to be clear, | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
getting that interview with Angelina Jolie, were their deals or | :05:40. | :05:44. | |
conditions? Their word, we had done some work with her last year, I | :05:45. | :05:48. | |
think she trusts the BBC to deal with the material in the film | :05:49. | :05:51. | |
sensitively and proportionately. We were able to agree with her that we | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
would go and get some access to the film and its premiere which we felt | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
would be of value to the audiences and would be of interest to the | :06:01. | :06:03. | |
audiences and what we have seen from the statistics and the viewing | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
figures and the online figures have confirmed that. What did you object | :06:07. | :06:13. | |
to about this item? Mainly because it is not news. It is as simple as | :06:14. | :06:18. | |
that. This actually was a shameless piece of Hollywood PR. It consisted | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
of puff about the film, it was a long film of Pol Pot which is 40 or | :06:24. | :06:29. | |
50 years old, and then the most ludicrous so-called exclusive | :06:30. | :06:33. | |
interview, which reminded me of a levitation seen from absolutely | :06:34. | :06:36. | |
fabulous in which he said absolutely nothing. But this was trailed across | :06:37. | :06:43. | |
the BBC, endlessly. It was headlined, it was the second or | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
third most important in the world according to the running order of | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
the BBC News. Frankly you could hardly have made more fuss if it was | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
the second coming. A lot of people would say that it would not have | :06:58. | :07:01. | |
been done without her celebrity at all? I think her involvement in the | :07:02. | :07:07. | |
film is certainly passed of the news story. Certainly the ones have been | :07:08. | :07:10. | |
made about the genocide but one of the important things about this film | :07:11. | :07:14. | |
is that her involvement meant, that a major international personality | :07:15. | :07:20. | |
was investing the time and the effort to make a Cambodian language | :07:21. | :07:23. | |
film with Cambodian actors, and for the first time the whole machinery | :07:24. | :07:26. | |
of the Cambodian government including the king who attended the | :07:27. | :07:30. | |
premiere was very publicly being associated with it and we felt | :07:31. | :07:33. | |
because we don't get to go to Cambodia very often, that actually | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
that told us something editorially interesting about how other | :07:38. | :07:39. | |
countries coming to terms with what has happened in the past. Of course | :07:40. | :07:47. | |
her presence was part of the story. But the BBC always makes a material | :07:48. | :07:50. | |
across the wide range of subject areas. I think what people ought to | :07:51. | :07:57. | |
see is authoritative and well-informed views. Angelina Jolie | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
may well be that, but we can all see from America, the problem with | :08:02. | :08:04. | |
pandering the way that you did with some of the most it's equally as | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
questioning I have seen since the 1950s, to celebrities. And celebrity | :08:11. | :08:12. | |
views are worth no more than yours or mine frankly. What did you make | :08:13. | :08:18. | |
of the fact that the headline of the story was about the marriage | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
breakdown? She did and said anything about it, did she? By the way, that | :08:23. | :08:27. | |
is none of our business. We do know and only a fool would think | :08:28. | :08:31. | |
otherwise, that as and when she makes her announcement about that, | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
it will be done through the Hollywood PR machine and anyone who | :08:36. | :08:38. | |
thinks she's going to answer a question on the BBC, about that is a | :08:39. | :08:45. | |
fool. People watching, say that if this was about the film crews and | :08:46. | :08:49. | |
the Khmer Rouge, why was the headline on News at ten about her | :08:50. | :08:53. | |
marriage? If you look at how we presented the material right across | :08:54. | :08:56. | |
the BBC will see clearly that we presented the story in the context | :08:57. | :09:00. | |
of the film. But in terms of the News at ten what people were | :09:01. | :09:04. | |
watching West up but if you look at the package, you have got a 3.5 | :09:05. | :09:09. | |
minute piece, of which the 45 seconds is what happened in her | :09:10. | :09:12. | |
family. We understand that people have a broad range of interest about | :09:13. | :09:16. | |
this story and ways of getting into this story and we think we have | :09:17. | :09:19. | |
presented this material responsibly and I'm very sorry that might is not | :09:20. | :09:23. | |
happy with it, I would hamper I would encourage him to watch the | :09:24. | :09:26. | |
long for material, that we produced as part of this trip because when | :09:27. | :09:32. | |
you have seen that, it is part of a fairer basis of judging the | :09:33. | :09:34. | |
totality. You are emphasising that, the BBC sold the whole exclusive on | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
the fact that you have got this celebrity angle, Angelina Jolie and | :09:39. | :09:42. | |
her marriage break-up and the comment on it however little that | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
was. That's what seems very odd to viewers like Mike. I don't think | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
that is fair, if you look right across the BBC News website, and the | :09:51. | :09:53. | |
two national channels and throughout its coverage, I think that we have | :09:54. | :09:58. | |
been very clear about headlining the film, the issues about Cambodia and | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
the unusual access. The unusual parts of the Cambodian story. I | :10:03. | :10:07. | |
think we have handled it responsibly but we are not going to cover up the | :10:08. | :10:10. | |
fact that there was some interest for the public in what she had to | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
say about this enormous international news stories. Are you | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
satisfied with what you have heard? No, and the fact of the matter is | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
that people don't have the time and inclination, the fact of the matter | :10:24. | :10:27. | |
was that it was headlined across the BBC as an exclusive interview about | :10:28. | :10:30. | |
her marriage breakdown. As if anybody was interested in that, | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
people are clearly, but she said absolutely nothing about it, and | :10:36. | :10:41. | |
frankly I thought it was a fiasco. We will have to leave it there, | :10:42. | :10:49. | |
thank you very much. Finally Steve Hewlett died on Monday was an | :10:50. | :10:51. | |
occasional presenter and very welcome guest on this programme. He | :10:52. | :10:56. | |
had a long and varied programme with production and executive roles, on | :10:57. | :11:00. | |
the BBC and Channel 4 and ITV, he was editor of panorama at the time | :11:01. | :11:04. | |
of its famous interview with Princess Diana in 1995 and he became | :11:05. | :11:08. | |
a sought-after media commentator both on camera and in print and he | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
presented Radio 4's media show from its launch in 2008. Over the past | :11:13. | :11:17. | |
few months he described the experience of having cancer in a | :11:18. | :11:21. | |
moving series of radio interviews. Steve will be much missed by family, | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
friends and colleagues and by news watch viewers such as Paul Nelson | :11:27. | :11:34. | |
who wrote to us on Monday. "So Sad, to hear of his passing. I shall | :11:35. | :11:38. | |
never forget his candid interviews. " | :11:39. | :11:44. | |
Thank you for all of your comments this week. If you want to share your | :11:45. | :11:50. | |
opinions on BBC News current affairs, you can call us. All e-mail | :11:51. | :12:05. | |
news watch. To have a look at our website. -- do have a look. | :12:06. | :12:07. |