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Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

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WikiLeaks has published thousands of documents it says contain details

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The replacement for Obamacare plan has been unveiled.

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Iraqi forces strike another blow against the Islamic

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Iraq's Prime Minister has been there. TRANSLATION: They will either

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surrender and have a fair trial, their second choice is they will be

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killed. Here in the UK, the government has

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suffered its second defeat in a week in the upper house

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of parliament over Brexit. The Lords want a bigger say

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for Parliament on any final deal. And we'll bring you a BBC

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investigation into Facebook that finds it failed to remove

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inappropriate and sexualised It told us that it was releasing

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false southern part one inside the CIA's global hacking force and it

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was claiming the thousands of documents it has put online have

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shown us how the CIA conducts hacking. -- vault seven. The BBC

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contacted the CIA and it said we do not comment on purported

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intelligence documents. Let me show you what Gordon Corera, our

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intelligence correspondent, said. They claim to be from the CIA Centre

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for cyber intelligence, leaked documents about the CIA's technical

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ability to carry out hacking into electronic devices, things like

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android phones, iPhones, even in one interesting document Samsung smart

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TVs, so it could make it look like the TV is off and actually on and

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collecting audio from the room and sending it back from a joint

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operation with Britain's MI5, it is claimed. Extraordinary claims about

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the capabilities of the CIA has for hacking into electronic devices.

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Links from the Hundred days programme spoke to the former CIA

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director and former NSA director general Michael Hayden. Here is what

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he had to say about the sleek. The agency is not yet confirming or

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denying the authenticity so I've got to put that out there. Now, if what

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I have read is true then this seems to be an incredibly damaging leak in

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terms of the tactics, procedures and tools used by the Central

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intelligence agency to conduct legitimate foreign intelligence. In

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other words, it's made my country and my country's friends less safe.

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Edward Snowden who knows a thing or two about leaks has posted online,

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still working through the publication but what WikiLeaks has

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here is genuinely a big deal. He says it looks authentic, although we

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should emphasise, we are not able to confirm that is the case. As we

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always do at this time, let's bring up the BBC's Anthony Zurcher live

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from Washington, DC. Edward Snowden says it is a big deal, is that the

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thought in Washington? There is concern that it has revealed

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techniques the CIA has used to gather intelligence through

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electronic means such as hacking and Trojan horses and malware, and also

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taking advantage of existing floors in technological devices like

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iPhones -- flaws. And even cars and apps you might have around your

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house, the television connected to the Internet. These are all methods

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this EIA developed and now they are being revealed. Interestingly the

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Obama administration said that whenever they came across a

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pre-existing problem or a weakness in a technological device that they

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would reveal it and would not hoard it and sit on it. This seems to run

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counter to those promises. One story I wanted to ask about. Donald Trump

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tuk-tuk twittered today to say our wonderful new health care bill is

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out for review and negotiation and says ObamaCare is complete and total

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disaster and it is imploding fast. Not everyone agrees with that. The

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President himself said it had some good features a few weeks ago when

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he talked about it. Evidently he has changed his mind. What we can agree

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on is the bill is available to read on the public and party website. The

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US Health Secretary gave a press conference earlier. Let me play you

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some of that. What's happening now is the American people are having to

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sacrifice in order to purchase coverage and as I mentioned many

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individuals can't afford the kind of coverage they have now so they have

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the insurance card but they don't have care. Our desire is to drive

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down the health care costs for everybody and the way that you do

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that is increased choices for folks, increased competition, return the

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regulation of health care where it ought to be which is at the state

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level, not the federal level. All of these things, which taken in their

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aggregate, will in fact decreased the cost of health care and health

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coverage and that will allow folks to purchase the coverage they want.

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The plan is for the first vote to be on this on Wednesday and that hasn't

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gone down well with some Democrats. Jim Cooper represents Nashville and

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says ObamaCare was public for 30 days after weeks of hearings. The

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Republicans have just released their plan and will force a vote on this

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in two days with the public in the dark. Anthony, is that fair comment,

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is the public in the dark on this? I think this has only come out

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recently. We just saw the plan last night. So, yes, this is a slightly

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modified version of earlier plans, it tweaks some things and does some

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other things but people had not seen this and two days is a rapidly

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accelerated pace. I think they feel they have together get the

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Republicans on board and voting for it quickly. They cannot take too

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much time because then the various factions in the Republican Party

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will turn on it quickly. They cannot take too much time because then the

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various factions in the Republican Party will terminate and advance

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their own priorities. The problem is that is already happening. Moments

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ago members of the house freedom caucus, the Libertarian

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representatives held press conference decrying the bill and

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said they would produce their own straight up repeal of ObamaCare and

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not offering to substitute. We are already seeing fraying in the

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Republican caucus. Let's pick up on that theme of opposition, you would

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expect it from Democrats but also from Republicans as Anthony has been

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explaining. This memo is from the Republican study committee group and

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it has 115 members of Congress in it and it describes the tax credits

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aspect of this new bill as a major concern. It says this is a

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Republican welfare entitlement. I should emphasise, of course, that

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not all Republicans are against this, many are supportive of these

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moves of the trip administration, here is one of them. -- Trump

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administration. The worst thing that ObamaCare did was put barriers

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between the patients and their health care professionals, and that

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is one of the things we have to do, make it more competitive. You will

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see we are increasing health savings accounts and giving people tax

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credits to buy insurance. We want to make sure people have control over

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their health care, not this cookie cutter approach from Washington, DC

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which says we know best and we will tell you what you need to be doing

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with your health care. Health care is very personal and people want to

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have control over their health care. Let's bring back Anthony on this.

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Some people argue they already have control they are just getting a

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different type of control. That's right, the existing system gives

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people choices whether it's within the framework of government

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regulation and what they are trying to do is pare back the government

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regulation and allow insurance providers to offer a wider variety

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of plans, some of which are less expensive and replace subsidies

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provided by the government to help pay for insurance with refundable

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tax credits, as you mentioned. What the Republicans are trying to do is

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keep the popular parts of the existing system while doing away

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with the parts that are unpopular and that is difficult because those

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systems fit together into a cohesive whole and as soon as you start

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picking at one or the other the whole thing kind of falls apart and

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it makes for some very hard choices. Anthony, thank you, I have a feeling

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we will talk at the same time tomorrow. Anthony Zurcher from

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Washington. The government has suffered a second

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defeat in the House of Lords. This is a live feed coming into the

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newsroom, a reasonably busy Lord's. The debate is still going on.

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But already the Lords have voted to support a "meaningful"

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parliamentary vote on the final terms of withdrawal.

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Or in other words a a vote after negotiations are complete.

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Lord Ashdown was one of the those who voted against the government.

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Sorry, it's not Parliament's job to trust the Prime Minister.

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It's Parliament's job to hold her to account.

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Look, we've done our Parliamentary duty today.

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Brexit debate was all about the sovereignty

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of Parliament and we've taken that seriously and said before this deal

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is passed it must be passed by Parliament.

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Let's be clear, none of this. Brexit happening but it may impact on how

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the UK Government goes about it. Here is the BBC's Rob Watson. What

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the government wants to do is overturn this completely and you can

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understand why. Potentially this is a hugely significant development

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because what the House of Lords have said is basically we want to have

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the final say, Parliament, on Britain's potential deal or a lack

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of a deal with the European Union, and that is precisely not what

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Theresa May wanted. She said parliament can have a vote on the

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deal that I do with the EU but it will be a take it or leave it basis.

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You either like the deal or reject it but if you reject it we just

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leave the European Union without a deal but we still leave what this

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potentially does is to say no, Parliament has the last word. One

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half of Parliament, the House of Lords, isn't elected and one half

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is. Surely if it comes to it the Commons will have the extra power on

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this issue. I guess you are probably right. If I had to bet on it I would

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say the government will probably get its way and the amendment. You must

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remember a couple of things. First of all, Theresa May only has a

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rather small majority in the House of Commons and also have to remember

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that there is a significant minority of Conservative MPs who continue to

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think Brexit is just about the dumbest thing that ever happened and

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they have not been happy with the way they have been treated. I guess

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it is possible they may vote with opposition parties for this

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amendment. A quick word about when Article 50 might be triggered. I am

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sure rumours will be swelling around Parliament. What are you hearing? Do

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you have any dates in mind? I am so trying to work it out, I cannot plan

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the rest of my march without it but I've been hearing not next week,

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probably one of the last two weeks of March. I know that is not very

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helpful but there you are, that's the best we can hope for. It is

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important to remember when you think about what happens in the House of

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Lords and this amendment, manner that will delay the start of this

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process. I am sure Theresa May will press the firing gun on Britain

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leaving the EU before the end of this month. It is the effect that it

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could have at the end of the negotiating process in two years'

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time. Outside Source will be in the Netherlands next week covering the

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Dutch elections. Stay with us. We have talked about the scrapping of

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ObamaCare and the replacement of it with a new health care system. From

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a political point of view with Anthony Zurcher. In a couple of

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minutes we will talk live from New York about this as a business story

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and how that works. Money for new grammar schools in

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England is to be announced in tomorrow's budget, there will be 140

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Free Schools setup using a budget of ?320 million in this Parliament and

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the next. Theresa May insists this is part of a plan to make a good

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education accessible to every child. We have protected the court schools

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budget but crucially what we are announcing is ?500 million of

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investment in schools, 320 million of which will be in new schools

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creating 70,000 new school places. What this is about is ensuring

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people can know that their child will have a good school place and

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all the opportunities that that provides for them. And among those

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new schools will be new maths schools like the one I visited,

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Kings maths school in London, crucially taking youngsters who are

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interested in mathematics, giving them the skills for the future. That

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is what we need to develop. It's about good school places and the

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right education for every child. This is Outside Source live

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from the BBC newsroom. Our lead story is: WikiLeaks has

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published thousands of secret documents which it says

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contain details of hacking Here are some of the main stories

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from the World Service. Burst, an awful story from France.

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killed a white rhino and cut off its horn with a chainsaw

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It's believed to be the first incident of this type in Europe.

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That is from BBC World News this radio.

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China has expressed its disapproval after the Dalai Lama told a US talk

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show that Chinese hardliners are missing the part of their brain

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A coroner has found that George Michael died of natural causes.

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More significant progress for Iraqi government forces in Mosul.

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This is one of Iraq's main cities in the north of the country which has

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been in the hands of Islamic State for two years. Government forces

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control the east of the city but now they have seized the main government

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buildings, the courthouse and Mosul Museum. These are pictures from the

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BBC archive. This was the Museum

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several years ago. It was attacked by Islamic State

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with many precious artefacts destroyed. The Iraqi Prime Minister

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has been in Mosul and talk to the press earlier. TRANSLATION: They

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have two choices, first either surrender and receive a fair trial,

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or the second choice, they will be killed. Some RS baking but their

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escape path is closed and that is why they should surrender -- some

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are escaping. To understand more about the buildings taken by the

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Iraqi government we asked BBC Arabic's correspondent to talk to

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us. They are symbolic, they were almost destroyed, but the importance

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of it is that they are advancing in areas that are considered very

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important not strategically but from a symbolic sense. The so-called

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Islamic State is losing on the ground, and actually these buildings

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were not occupied by the Islamic State. Now the eyes are focused on

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the next target, the old city, and the first on the list is the mosque

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where Al Baghdadi made his famous speech in 2014. After that maybe we

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can say we start the countdown of Islamic State in and moving into the

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new era that maybe could be not as easy as many expect. The Prime

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Minister was talking about some IS fighters fleeing the city. Yes. If

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they leave where do they go? This is exactly what I meant when I said the

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next era could be much more difficult, they could melt in

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amongst the refugees, and if we go back to the Jihadist ideology we

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have a live example which is Al-Qaeda. They can hit and run

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anywhere and this is much more complicated than having a specific

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address that you know where they are and everybody who is considering

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their enemies come after them. Now they are targeting Mosul and Raqqa,

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but after this they could be anywhere. They could be anyone. This

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could be much more complicated than many think.

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We've already talked about the politics of the Republicans'

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Now let's talk about the business of it.

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I guess this new plan has major consequences for insurance

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companies. Absolutely. If you look at the way the stock market has been

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reacting we see that when it comes to some of the drug makers, their

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stocks are down, and that's because we saw that President Trump tweeted

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that he's going to try to get the prices of some of those prescription

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drugs to come down. That has been a big problem, the cost of just how

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expensive it is for Americans to get the drugs that they need. What about

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the implementation of this? Presumably whatever changes come

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through it will take awhile for businesses to alter how they about

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selling their products. Absolutely. To give you a sense of just how

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massive the health care industry is in the US, it is worth about $3

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trillion, and by some estimates by next year that's going to represent

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18% of America's GDP. So, health care is just a major expense too for

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most Americans. This will have a really big impact in terms of just

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how you average American will decide in terms of their finances and where

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their money goes. In terms of how companies operate

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within the US health care system, we heard a Republican earlier say this

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needs to be dealt with at a state level, the federal government should

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be out of it. Does that mean each company has to work out 50 or so

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different ways of operating? Right, as soon as you have a company that

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operates in a few different states it's going to get really complicated

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because each state, for example the state of New York, is very different

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than the state of Texas, and what the two states may decide as being

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important for the people who live in that state with regard to health

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care could be very different. For bigots and police it could become a

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lot more complicated. -- bigger companies. In their proposal they

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have taken away the prescription that everyone has to have health

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care. How that actually impacts the wider economy is still a bit of a

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question. Thank you, Samira Hussein, live from New York. Now let's talk

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about one of the main stories of yesterday and of this week. The BBC

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has been speaking to the man in the middle of one of the biggest stories

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of the year, this is Carlos Tavares, the CEO of Peugeot Citroen, which

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yesterday bought the Opel and Vauxhall brands, this is the

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President of the company. It could leave Peugeot Citroen with

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overcapacity in Europe and job cuts could follow, it is feared. Simon

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Jack is at the motor show and had the chance to raise the issue with

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the man who will be taking the decisions. It is fair to recognise

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that a big part of the turnaround has already been implement it

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successfully by the Opel Vauxhall team with the help of our company,

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this work is significant but some has already been done. That could

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have been achieved last year had not the Brexit happened and the

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consequences on the pound. What we have to do now is to complete the

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turnaround, consolidate the turnaround of Opel-Vauc Vauxhall and

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bring the operating profit margin to an appropriate level for this

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company to be able to generate recurrent positive cash flow.

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Everyone agrees there is overcapacity in the European market

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meaning you have to take out cost and eventually if you are honest

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jobs and plants must go. My answer is much more honest than the way you

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are asking the question. We're not talking about shutting down plants.

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Why? If you look at the situation and the PSA group today, our

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capacity is 98%. It is much lower at Vauxhall. It is 82%, first, it is

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not a dramatic number, 82% is not dramatic. Second, for many, many

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years Opel-Vauxhall could not export cars outside of Europe. That was

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something General Motors didn't want them to do. PSA is going to unleash

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this potential but if you want to export we need to be cost

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competitive, your quality needs to be absolutely superb and your costs

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need to be competitive, hence the opportunity we have in front of us

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is improved quality, improved cost, export, be more competitive and

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altogether by sharing best practice. This is the way that we should look

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at things. Next on Outside Source we must turn to a BBC investigation

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into how Facebook is still failing to remove inappropriate and

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sexualised images of children. You may have already seen this on the

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BBC website. Here's the story on our website

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which tells how a BBC team found a series of sexually suggestive

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images and reported Angus Crawford is the reporter on

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that story and said at Facebook's request we send them the pictures we

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have reported which were not taken down by Facebook moderators and then

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Facebook reported us to the police. Facebook said today it is against

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the law for anyone to distribute images of child exploitation. Here

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is the BBC's Angus Crawford with his full story.

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The rules are meant to be simple - Facebook says it removes nudity

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But our investigation last year found paedophiles using secret

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groups to swap obscene images of children.

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We informed the police, and this man was sent

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Facebook told us it had improved its systems.

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of children, where men posted obscene comments.

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In every single one of these images, there is a real child

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who is out there today - at school, probably -

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and they don't know that their image is being used in this way.

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It is used and commented on by a paedophile that child is abused

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again. We reported 100 posts that appeared

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to break Facebook's own guidelines. They didn't breach Facebook's

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community standards. Unconcerned that has been brought to

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Facebook's attention and has not been addressed.

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it casts grave doubt on the effectiveness of the measures

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One former insider says moderation is a huge task.

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I think the biggest challenge here is one of scale.

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No-one has ever policed a site as large as Facebook.

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1.8 billion people using Facebook every month means the company is

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effectively running the largest police force is the world has ever

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seen. Facebook asked us to send them

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examples of what we had The company then reported

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us to the police. Facebook issued a statement,

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saying: We have carefully reviewed

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the content referred to us and have now removed all the items that were

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illegal or against our standards. It is against the law for anyone

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to distribute images This matter is now in the hands

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of the authorities. So, where does this

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leave concerned parents? It sends a very clear message that,

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actually, you can't trust Facebook's reporting mechanism,

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and I think parents get There are many parents who contact

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us and said they tried to raise an issue with Facebook and didn't get

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anywhere. It will reinforce many parents' existing experience.

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Even now, groups with inappropriate images and comments about children

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Questions about how the company moderates

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As I was saying there is more information on Angus's investigation

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online and on the BBC News website. In the last few seconds of this

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programme, let me tell you that Arsenal are not having much fun at

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home to Bayern Munich in the second leg of their last 16 Champions

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League tie, they are losing 4-1. They are going out to a huge

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deficit. Find out more on OS sport in a few minutes time.

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If you were watching yesterday you will know there was a variety of

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impactful weather occurring around the world, let's start with the main

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event, the

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