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A in in East, while the Prime Minister lost his patience with one | :01:41. | :01:47. | |
of our MPs, the government will look to more Turbo and like these | :01:47. | :01:57. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1437 seconds | :01:57. | :25:54. | |
Why would you point a finger in men accused a to way. Asking how to | :25:54. | :26:02. | |
inflate our homes better. We want a green deal, we want to spend less | :26:02. | :26:12. | |
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rather than more on energy bills. It is a big issue, an important one. | :26:12. | :26:18. | |
You signed off on this in a committee, then in public your | :26:18. | :26:26. | |
party moves away from it. We did not sign off, you are making | :26:26. | :26:36. | |
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comments on the internal mechanisms. We decided at the National Security | :26:36. | :26:39. | |
Committee that there was a dilemma, there is an issue that people are | :26:39. | :26:44. | |
making telephone calls to each other using new means of doing so | :26:44. | :26:48. | |
which did not exist in the past. They are not captured by current | :26:48. | :26:54. | |
statutory powers which the police can use. What none of us have | :26:54. | :26:59. | |
decided on because we have not seen it, it has not been discussed | :27:00. | :27:03. | |
collectively is how subject to proper parliamentary scrutiny it is. | :27:03. | :27:09. | |
How do you make sure, absolutely, a point I made at the time in public | :27:09. | :27:13. | |
and in private that we don't infringe on basic civil liberties. | :27:13. | :27:18. | |
It is getting the balance right, it is painstaking and has not been | :27:18. | :27:22. | |
completed yet. Why are you putting up so few candidates in local | :27:22. | :27:27. | |
elections. We are putting up fewer, we lost a lot of councillors last | :27:27. | :27:32. | |
year, we took a real thumping last year which is normal, parties do | :27:32. | :27:36. | |
this with the ebb and flow of their fortunes. We are focusing our | :27:37. | :27:41. | |
candidates on the areas where we are strong and campaign well. Where | :27:41. | :27:46. | |
we deliver for local communities. Michael Brown, your party's | :27:46. | :27:50. | |
biggest-ever donor, is being extradited from the Caribbean back | :27:50. | :27:56. | |
to this country. He gave your party to 0.4 billion -- million pounds. | :27:56. | :28:00. | |
You have no legal obligation to give this back but don't you have a | :28:00. | :28:05. | |
moral obligation? I am very pleased he is coming back to serve his | :28:05. | :28:10. | |
sentence, a convicted fraudster. This happened before I was even an | :28:10. | :28:15. | |
MP, let alone leader of the Liberal Democrats, and what I have been | :28:15. | :28:19. | |
told is that the electoral commission looked at this | :28:19. | :28:23. | |
exhaustively as far as the receipt of that money by the Liberal | :28:23. | :28:27. | |
Democrats from one of his companies. They concluded that the money was | :28:27. | :28:31. | |
received in good faith and all of the cheques which should have been | :28:31. | :28:35. | |
made were made by the Liberal- Democrat at the time. If we had | :28:35. | :28:38. | |
been shown wanting on those counts then of course we should pay the | :28:39. | :28:44. | |
money back. I accept that you did not know, but you were in receipt | :28:44. | :28:54. | |
of stolen goods. Don't you have a moral necessity to hand that back. | :28:54. | :28:59. | |
I am just talking about the principle. The principle is, if you | :28:59. | :29:03. | |
were to receive money from someone and you did so on false pretences, | :29:03. | :29:07. | |
knowingly, and you did not conduct the right checks then you should | :29:07. | :29:11. | |
pay it back. The Electoral Commission shows that in those | :29:11. | :29:16. | |
cases which take place, as it did before I entered Parliament, that | :29:16. | :29:20. | |
was not the case had been Liberal- Democrats and they were exonerated. | :29:20. | :29:25. | |
There are stories in the rounds at Westminster that he will stand down | :29:25. | :29:30. | |
at the next election. Can I give you the opportunity to scotch those | :29:30. | :29:36. | |
rumours today, to say you will fight the 2015 Liberal-Democrat | :29:36. | :29:44. | |
leader. You bet. If Parliament results in another hung parliament, | :29:44. | :29:50. | |
are you up for being a different Deputy Prime Minister in another | :29:50. | :29:56. | |
coalition? I will say to what I said months ago, I don't think how | :29:56. | :30:00. | |
Coalition's are formed should be the plaything of any politicians. | :30:00. | :30:05. | |
It should be based on the instruction of the British people. | :30:05. | :30:08. | |
At the last election there was only one possible combinations so what | :30:08. | :30:13. | |
we did was quite it if we followed, the mandate. That is what we should | :30:13. | :30:18. | |
do in the future. Deputy Prime Minister, thank you for being with | :30:18. | :30:24. | |
us on this marathon day. It is approaching 2:30pm. Coming up in 20 | :30:24. | :30:29. | |
minutes, I will be looking at the week ahead with our political panel. | :30:29. | :30:39. | |
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Until then, the Sunday politics across the UK. | :30:41. | :30:45. | |
Hello and welcome to Sunday politics in the east. Coming up, | :30:45. | :30:49. | |
what is the future for onshore wind? The government pulls back on | :30:49. | :30:53. | |
a new wind farm development as pressure grows inside and outside | :30:53. | :31:02. | |
parliament. First, let's introduce our guest, the Conservative MP | :31:02. | :31:06. | |
joins us, and the Labour MP for Luton South. Kicking off with the | :31:06. | :31:12. | |
proposals for the House of Lords, a second elected chamber. M P Patel, | :31:12. | :31:19. | |
I assume you are not keen on these proposals? His early days, they | :31:19. | :31:24. | |
will give their own findings, I have concerns. I don't think it | :31:24. | :31:29. | |
will be scrapped the House of Lords and start again. There is a serious | :31:29. | :31:34. | |
constitutional role for it to play. I think we have to look at | :31:34. | :31:37. | |
proposals and look at the feasibility of some of the changes | :31:37. | :31:40. | |
which will be proposed. I am not for wholesale root-and-branch | :31:40. | :31:48. | |
reform. Under Labour they talked a lot about reform, his is the way | :31:48. | :31:53. | |
forward? We had that at the start of our administration. I hope this | :31:53. | :31:57. | |
will be successful. It is a big fault line in the coalition. | :31:58. | :32:02. | |
Although I want to see them an elected, I want to see how the | :32:02. | :32:07. | |
government will play this out. Moving on to another big talking | :32:07. | :32:10. | |
point this week, we are still talking about the Budget because it | :32:10. | :32:14. | |
is still causing controversy. This week with the Finance Bill having a | :32:14. | :32:20. | |
rocky ride through Parliament. The six MPs rebelled against measures | :32:20. | :32:26. | |
for taxes on pasty is, caravans and historic buildings like churches. | :32:26. | :32:36. | |
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The MP for Clacton received a public put down from David Cameron. | :32:38. | :32:42. | |
The pensioners, motorists and pasty makers of will condemn the budget | :32:42. | :32:46. | |
and now the church is joining in. Angry at plans to charge VAT on | :32:46. | :32:51. | |
repairs to historic buildings. point is that these places are for | :32:51. | :32:54. | |
the community. They are not profit organisations making money for | :32:54. | :33:00. | |
other people. They are here for the community. The Universities | :33:00. | :33:06. | |
Minister opened a new college in Harlow, but was told by the head of | :33:06. | :33:10. | |
Anglia Ruskin how angry universities are to cap charity | :33:10. | :33:17. | |
giving. Others furious that VAT will be charged on the sale of | :33:17. | :33:22. | |
static caravans. A millionaire can own a holiday home, bricks-and- | :33:22. | :33:31. | |
mortar, anywhere in the country and he does not pay 20 per cent VAT. | :33:31. | :33:39. | |
Some of these issues have been forced by civil servants, one of | :33:39. | :33:44. | |
already unhappily with the taxes was very publicly slapped down. | :33:44. | :33:48. | |
There are a few occasions when I think the Honourable Gentleman need | :33:48. | :33:55. | |
a bit of a sense of humour. He told me to get a sense of humour but the | :33:55. | :33:58. | |
people I represent in Clacton are not laughing about the budget or | :33:58. | :34:03. | |
the massive increase in VAT of caravans. They are not laughing | :34:03. | :34:10. | |
about the past the tax or the lack of economic growth. I can do humour | :34:10. | :34:14. | |
when I need to, but I don't think people voted for me because they | :34:14. | :34:20. | |
wanted me to be a comedian. To this Budget has left many | :34:20. | :34:25. | |
feeling uneasy and they must now hope for divine intervention to end | :34:25. | :34:30. | |
this stream of bad publicity. has been a public relations | :34:30. | :34:36. | |
disaster has it not? David Cameron says we have got a year to talk | :34:36. | :34:41. | |
about it. A year to consult. Why has it not been consulted on before | :34:41. | :34:45. | |
it reached the Budget? Are I come to this from a different | :34:45. | :34:49. | |
perspective. Most but is that I can remember, they have always been | :34:49. | :34:54. | |
taught about long after it has been given. There are lots of | :34:54. | :34:57. | |
technicalities around budgets. Gavin will recall back in the | :34:57. | :35:03. | |
Labour days we had a 10 p tax issue which went on and on and on. An | :35:03. | :35:09. | |
increase in the state pension to. We talk about being Wendy but it is | :35:09. | :35:19. | |
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announced, you talk about them for weeks afterwards. There is a couple | :35:20. | :35:25. | |
of points here, one is about fairness and won his invocation of | :35:25. | :35:28. | |
the tax system. We have discovered that they have been far too many | :35:28. | :35:33. | |
anomalies in the tax system, hence the reason, where the past days of | :35:33. | :35:38. | |
caravans, and why the government has looked at the tax rates around | :35:38. | :35:42. | |
these issues and said they would simplify them. The government is | :35:42. | :35:48. | |
being sensible, Gavin? They have to be saving somewhere. We did oppose | :35:48. | :35:52. | |
the measures in the Budget, I think they are deeply unfair. Many of the | :35:52. | :35:56. | |
people in the film that talked about the ways it will affect their | :35:56. | :36:00. | |
business. The key issue we should be talking about his growth. | :36:00. | :36:06. | |
Instead we have spent four week's talking about them. In our budgets | :36:06. | :36:12. | |
over the 13 years, there was the 10 p tax for example, but my fear is | :36:12. | :36:17. | |
that this whole budget will be looked at at like that in the | :36:17. | :36:21. | |
future. I thought the response from the Prime Minister was a bit of a | :36:21. | :36:29. | |
shame there, actually, hopefully, there should be a fulsome response | :36:29. | :36:34. | |
to the question asked. I think it also says something about the | :36:34. | :36:38. | |
relationship between the decision makers and the backbench MPs. | :36:39. | :36:43. | |
me put that to Gavin shook her. The residue between leader and party, | :36:43. | :36:53. | |
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no surprises? Any party has this disconnects. I don't believe we | :36:54. | :36:59. | |
have it now, I think we are very united, but it is true there is a | :36:59. | :37:02. | |
problem there. David Cameron made to work really hard at keeping | :37:02. | :37:06. | |
those guys on board. They are coming into a difficult period | :37:06. | :37:10. | |
right now. We are moving on now to the growing opposition to onshore | :37:10. | :37:15. | |
wind farms. The government has pledged to call a halt to new | :37:15. | :37:20. | |
projects and that is before it announces a fresh cup. Amid growing | :37:20. | :37:25. | |
concern among them MPs, the government claimed the targets will | :37:25. | :37:31. | |
be met. The industry disagrees. Across the East Northamptonshire | :37:31. | :37:36. | |
tops the table. In all there is a total of 216 large wind turbine | :37:36. | :37:41. | |
soon to be built across the region with another 87 in the pipeline. | :37:41. | :37:49. | |
The government seems to agree that that is where it should end. This | :37:49. | :37:52. | |
village in of Northampton share has a small community with just 70 | :37:52. | :37:59. | |
people, not in a big battle over seven turbines. There are plenty of | :37:59. | :38:04. | |
other places besides this. They are all around us as it is. They have | :38:04. | :38:10. | |
got to leave us somewhere, surely? We need an oasis amongst it all, | :38:10. | :38:15. | |
they should leave us alone. turbines would be seven times the | :38:15. | :38:20. | |
height of the tower of the 7th century church, and it is the | :38:20. | :38:26. | |
potential threat which feels local fury. There is a feeling of | :38:26. | :38:30. | |
helplessness which then becomes frustration, and it turns to anger. | :38:30. | :38:34. | |
You find yourself getting highly motivated to try and defend what | :38:34. | :38:38. | |
you have got. This is where the decision will be made, not by the | :38:38. | :38:42. | |
planning committee of the district council but by a single planning | :38:42. | :38:46. | |
inspector. They say the council fell to determine the application | :38:46. | :38:50. | |
and the time about, so it is down to a planning inquiry to make the | :38:50. | :38:55. | |
ruling. There are already very stringent guidelines about way you | :38:55. | :38:59. | |
can cite wind farms, it has to be done through a local democratic | :38:59. | :39:05. | |
process. You have to carry out a local assessment, which needs to be | :39:05. | :39:09. | |
very stringent. The king at the effect in the area, only then can | :39:09. | :39:16. | |
you get the project through. energy suppliers say they have a | :39:16. | :39:19. | |
history of fairness and say it is appropriate. They said one is not | :39:20. | :39:23. | |
going to blink and miss the structures, but the National | :39:23. | :39:27. | |
process is clear. Even if the impact are probably to be viewed as | :39:27. | :39:32. | |
adverse, that in itself is not a reason for refusal. Could that | :39:32. | :39:37. | |
overall policy be about to shift with many MPs arguing that these | :39:37. | :39:40. | |
need to be cut substantially and there are already enough project up | :39:40. | :39:47. | |
and running or in the pipeline. have a target of 13 gigawatt of | :39:47. | :39:52. | |
onshore wind for 2020. We have got six through the planning gate | :39:52. | :39:56. | |
already and seven going through now. We will hit out 2020 target later | :39:56. | :40:01. | |
this year, probably. That proves to me the number is way too high. | :40:01. | :40:05. | |
not clear we have hit the targets, a number of proposals are at | :40:05. | :40:08. | |
planning stage and now they are saying that because they are | :40:08. | :40:11. | |
uncertain about the commitment to wind they are pulling back to see | :40:11. | :40:16. | |
what happens. It is not clear the targets have been met, but we have | :40:16. | :40:23. | |
to look at the whole mix of energy that we need. We expect to need | :40:23. | :40:28. | |
more and more power, if we don't get it from offshore wind that | :40:28. | :40:31. | |
means we are probably going to be more and more reliant on imports of | :40:31. | :40:36. | |
fossil fuels from other countries. Bad for the environment but also | :40:36. | :40:42. | |
more expensive. At Bradwell on see there is more | :40:42. | :40:47. | |
plans under way, and the firm behind it says they are working | :40:47. | :40:51. | |
closely with local people and councils. Campaigners say they are | :40:51. | :40:55. | |
looking to halt the project by seeking a judicial review claiming | :40:55. | :40:59. | |
the structures could put protected areas at risk. They believe that | :40:59. | :41:03. | |
onshore wind has had its day. political pressure for onshore wind | :41:03. | :41:09. | |
has now gone. There will probably be a number of small light | :41:09. | :41:14. | |
industrial ones as we have seen on some local farms but the big | :41:14. | :41:18. | |
developments, such as this one, will probably no longer happen. | :41:18. | :41:24. | |
is heartbreaking really, we did design the property to take into | :41:24. | :41:29. | |
consideration all of the views, and everything else which goes with it | :41:29. | :41:33. | |
in the area. Then we find that they will be taken away. We hope it has | :41:34. | :41:38. | |
a not come too late for us. We still believe we will win the | :41:38. | :41:43. | |
judicial review and on that basis they will not be built here. 130 | :41:43. | :41:47. | |
miles away they to believe they will prevail, confident that this | :41:47. | :41:53. | |
is a David and Goliath battle that they can win. I am joined by Adrian | :41:53. | :41:58. | |
Ramsey, the former Norwich councillor, now deputy leader of | :41:58. | :42:03. | |
the Green Party. Do you have any sympathy at all with the people in | :42:03. | :42:07. | |
that report? Of course I have sympathy and there you should be | :42:07. | :42:09. | |
taken into account in the discussions around planning | :42:09. | :42:13. | |
applications, but a recent poll from the Sunday Times show that | :42:13. | :42:17. | |
more than 50 per cent of people surveyed want to see more wind. We | :42:17. | :42:24. | |
could have more supportive we saw a more consistent community at | :42:24. | :42:32. | |
ownership. I want to see community ownership of wind turbines to come | :42:32. | :42:36. | |
up more frequently, as we are seeing in some parts of this region | :42:36. | :42:41. | |
already, I think there will be more public support. We have been told | :42:41. | :42:44. | |
the industry should brace itself to a large cuts of more than 10 per | :42:44. | :42:49. | |
cent. What do you think that would do to the industry. I am really | :42:49. | :42:53. | |
concerned about the effect it would have on the industry. We could be | :42:53. | :42:56. | |
creating thousands of jobs if they have the confidence that there | :42:56. | :43:00. | |
would be orders placed. Investors say it will create 2000 jobs in | :43:00. | :43:06. | |
Kent soon if there is a possibility for a plant there. We are way | :43:06. | :43:11. | |
behind other countries with other renewable energy is, whether it is | :43:11. | :43:18. | |
wind, wave or solar panel power. We should be tackling climate change | :43:18. | :43:22. | |
and we have to remember that fossil fuels and nuclear power has huge | :43:22. | :43:29. | |
subsidies which does not get attention. You mentioned and energy | :43:29. | :43:34. | |
mix and if we keep with that, we have gas and nuclear energy, do we | :43:34. | :43:39. | |
really need in this country any more onshore wind? Onshore wind | :43:39. | :43:43. | |
must be part of the solution and we need to make sure that people's | :43:43. | :43:50. | |
views are taken into account on this. We need to look at the | :43:50. | :43:52. | |
effectiveness of a particular site but we do need more onshore wind. | :43:52. | :43:56. | |
There would be more supportive it was community based projects, and | :43:56. | :44:00. | |
we need to reduce the amount of energy that we rely on. If we | :44:00. | :44:06. | |
insulate people's homes and tried to look at the local issues we | :44:06. | :44:11. | |
could reduce our energy demand that way. The let me bring in the other | :44:11. | :44:15. | |
two guests. Labour subsidies were so high that they effectively | :44:15. | :44:22. | |
skewed the market, didn't they? Some may say it led to the market | :44:22. | :44:29. | |
being overly aggressive. I think it kicks started a market here. If | :44:29. | :44:35. | |
what is being said is right in the that, it shows that we were quite | :44:35. | :44:38. | |
foresight full in moving the situation forward. The real problem | :44:38. | :44:42. | |
here is that the government is running up against its own rhetoric. | :44:42. | :44:46. | |
It promised localism for local communities and yet the realities | :44:46. | :44:50. | |
are that they are being put in places where people don't want them. | :44:50. | :44:55. | |
It is interesting, I agree with Gavin on the point about kick- | :44:55. | :44:59. | |
starting the renewables agenda in this country. We need that energy. | :44:59. | :45:06. | |
I am in favour of having local people have the saved. What we saw | :45:06. | :45:12. | |
in that package, in Essex, for example, local residents fearing | :45:12. | :45:16. | |
that their views were completely ignored and overridden by the | :45:16. | :45:19. | |
Planning Inspectorate. That is wrong and I would like to think | :45:19. | :45:23. | |
that the Government's powers in regards to localism, going forward, | :45:23. | :45:29. | |
would make sure that residents have the saved. You are here being the | :45:30. | :45:34. | |
vote bluecoat green government, how has their record been so far? | :45:34. | :45:38. | |
Disastrous, they have slashed the support for solar-powered, they are | :45:38. | :45:44. | |
failing to take the action that we need to supply energy for the | :45:44. | :45:49. | |
future to localise our economy. We are far too reliant on imported oil | :45:49. | :45:53. | |
and gas. Part of the issue is about investing in all types of renewable | :45:53. | :46:00. | |
energy, whether it is wind, solar all way. What about in energy mix, | :46:00. | :46:06. | |
Gavin? We are the ones who first foresaw we were coming up to an | :46:06. | :46:13. | |
energy crunch around 2020 or 2025. We need all kinds of energy. It is | :46:13. | :46:17. | |
all very well for the Greens to say we must press on regardless but | :46:17. | :46:25. | |
local people must be heard. It would be against my wishes to | :46:25. | :46:29. | |
defend this government but to take away the structures to plan | :46:29. | :46:34. | |
effectively, across city areas, it becomes much harder. The government | :46:34. | :46:39. | |
has got itself into a real mess, is it about localism or the Green | :46:39. | :46:45. | |
economy? The the 2020 tariff, are we going to make it? Everything at | :46:45. | :46:49. | |
the moment looks pretty good for getting the right energy mix by | :46:49. | :46:54. | |
2020. Absolutely. We are there to meet targets. The government has | :46:54. | :47:00. | |
been very clear. Energy mixes key but we should not forget that it is | :47:00. | :47:03. | |
hard pressed tax payers out there who are paying for higher bills and | :47:03. | :47:07. | |
having to subsidise renewables. It is important that this government | :47:07. | :47:12. | |
looks at this again. Briefly, a trim, what is your response to the | :47:12. | :47:21. | |
government running back on this proposal? -- Adrian. We need to | :47:21. | :47:25. | |
support renewables in general, with offshore wind and onshore. With | :47:25. | :47:31. | |
onshore wind we need to make sure the proposals are appropriate. If | :47:31. | :47:35. | |
we can promote more community renewable projects there will be | :47:35. | :47:39. | |
more support at a local level. I'm not saying that every site is | :47:39. | :47:45. | |
appropriate but there would be more support if it was community based. | :47:45. | :47:50. | |
Thank you. You two stay here, it is time for the weekly political | :47:50. | :48:00. | |
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round-up. Watch out for the Dragon, here it comes in 60 seconds. | :48:01. | :48:05. | |
Peter Bone up to his old tricks this week asking the education | :48:05. | :48:09. | |
department to relocate to Wellingborough. Daily you would get | :48:09. | :48:16. | |
the advice of Mrs Bone, they cannot be a better opportunity, surely? | :48:16. | :48:19. | |
All I can say is that Northamptonshire has many | :48:19. | :48:24. | |
attractions, chief amongst them is Mrs Bone. How to achieve an | :48:24. | :48:27. | |
attractive High Street was the mission of a Dragon who believes | :48:27. | :48:32. | |
the government could do more. must say there is a lot of lip | :48:32. | :48:38. | |
service and very little substance. A view shared by one the Labour MP | :48:38. | :48:43. | |
who took the Prime Minister to task about the granite tax. Does the | :48:43. | :48:46. | |
Prime Minister to think that this granny tax is teaching pensioners | :48:46. | :48:51. | |
with a respect? It was the Right Honourable Member for chums that he | :48:51. | :48:57. | |
was asked to show a little respect in a rebuke from the Speaker. | :48:57. | :49:01. | |
quiet Mr Burns, it would be better for your health. You are the | :49:01. | :49:08. | |
Minister for Health. Well, there we go. Let me pick up on that point | :49:08. | :49:15. | |
about our high streets. We seek hour Dragon are not happy about it, | :49:15. | :49:22. | |
very little substance. I disagree, I met Mary he because we put in a | :49:22. | :49:29. | |
bit to be part of the pilot. I have a very motivated community and they | :49:29. | :49:33. | |
have been very inspired by this. I have been delighted to see them | :49:33. | :49:38. | |
come together and worked together to look at the benefit of our town | :49:38. | :49:44. | |
centres. Under Labour it was spend, spend, spend. As a result are we | :49:44. | :49:49. | |
going to see the High Street get smaller? I think the real problem | :49:49. | :49:54. | |
is not that the review would work, it is the economy. And this we see | :49:54. | :49:58. | |
some real action on growth this year in the economy, it does not | :49:58. | :50:01. | |
matter how many reviews you do you will be in a really difficult | :50:01. | :50:08. | |
position. The High Street is here to stay? Yes, absolutely. Luton has | :50:08. | :50:14. | |
a pride in one which you will have to visit. That is all for now. You | :50:14. | :50:19. | |
can keep in touch via our website where you will find links to | :50:19. | :50:24. |