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for students and does our ambulance need a fast response as it loses | :01:34. | :01:44. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2170 seconds | :01:44. | :37:55. | |
Hello and welcome. Coming up: In the middle of the controversial | :37:55. | :37:58. | |
reorganisation of East Anglia's ambulance service, its chief | :37:58. | :38:03. | |
executive steps down. He has always been good to deal with and they | :38:03. | :38:08. | |
paid tribute to him, but there is something wrong with the way in | :38:08. | :38:13. | |
which there ambulance trust has delivered its service in North week. | :38:13. | :38:16. | |
The university in our region heading up the Task Force | :38:16. | :38:20. | |
Consulting on the immigration status of students from overseas. | :38:20. | :38:28. | |
First, let us meet our guest, Stewart Jackson is the Conservative | :38:28. | :38:33. | |
MP for Peterborough. Let us start with the news that we are able to | :38:33. | :38:37. | |
batter a burglar without fear of prosecution is the force is | :38:37. | :38:41. | |
reasonable. The most high-profile case involved Tony Martin jailed | :38:41. | :38:48. | |
after shooting an intruder at his farmhouse in 1999. This week, he | :38:48. | :38:53. | |
welcomed the change. We are supposed to live in a democratic | :38:53. | :38:57. | |
society. Maybe what is going on today, they are trying to put | :38:57. | :39:04. | |
decency back into democracy. Tim, this is a bit of a crowd pleaser, | :39:04. | :39:11. | |
isn't it? Very much so. Nobody wants to see innocent people go to | :39:11. | :39:16. | |
jail because they have to send -- defended themselves in their own | :39:16. | :39:23. | |
home, but I worry that it doesn't become an open licence to tackle | :39:24. | :39:31. | |
anyone in your home or garden by mistake - in a garden in particular, | :39:31. | :39:34. | |
somebody could find themselves being attacked. | :39:34. | :39:41. | |
We have gone from hiding a hoody to battering a burglar. It is a | :39:41. | :39:45. | |
realisation that the public were significantly concerned that the | :39:45. | :39:51. | |
balance was tilting towards the criminal and away from the victim. | :39:51. | :39:58. | |
Chris Froome will take a more nuanced position -- Chris Grayling. | :39:58. | :40:04. | |
But there are only a handful of cases like this anyway. And to be | :40:04. | :40:09. | |
fair, the Crown Prosecution Service looks at each individual case in | :40:09. | :40:14. | |
that way. Nevertheless, the key words are "grossly | :40:14. | :40:20. | |
disproportionate" and providing we keep that in mind, it will reassure | :40:20. | :40:23. | |
householders that the law is on their side and if they do a | :40:23. | :40:27. | |
reasonable thing, confronting a burglar with a weapon in the middle | :40:27. | :40:33. | |
of the night, you are going to possibly behave unreasonably. But | :40:33. | :40:37. | |
this will reassure people the law is on there side of the law abiding | :40:37. | :40:41. | |
citizen. This week, the chief executive of | :40:41. | :40:46. | |
the East of England ambulance trust is standing down only a month after | :40:46. | :40:52. | |
-- the staff passed a vote of no confidence. There has been growing | :40:52. | :41:00. | |
criticism over the service and, in particular, response times. These | :41:00. | :41:06. | |
other stations around the region at presence with the original double | :41:06. | :41:11. | |
staff to ambulance service. Half of them may change, possibly to a | :41:11. | :41:16. | |
rapid response vehicle with one member of staff. Managers insist it | :41:16. | :41:21. | |
will not affect quality of service. An ambulance crew on the way to | :41:22. | :41:26. | |
another emergency, but as the number of calls grows the budget | :41:26. | :41:34. | |
shrinks. The East of England ambulance services Ned -- needs to | :41:34. | :41:37. | |
save �50 million over five years and that could be tricky because it | :41:37. | :41:44. | |
already seems as if it is at full strength at times -- full-stretch. | :41:44. | :41:49. | |
This man's neighbour collapsed and lay face down in the rain for | :41:49. | :41:57. | |
three-and a-half hours. Neighbours were looking out, they | :41:57. | :42:04. | |
haven't come yet. No sign. It is just incredible. This is 12 -- 2012 | :42:04. | :42:10. | |
not 1912. If the wrong weight but this baby's life in danger. The | :42:10. | :42:12. | |
mother needed an emergency Caesarean and an ambulance was | :42:12. | :42:17. | |
called but did not turn up for nearly two hours. Riley is now | :42:17. | :42:22. | |
doing well but his grandmother is worried other families may suffer | :42:22. | :42:28. | |
if ambulance budgets are cut. worries me a lot because if the | :42:28. | :42:33. | |
resources had not been as stretched, there would not be an issue getting | :42:33. | :42:38. | |
an ambulance to him. In both cases, the ambulance service apologised | :42:38. | :42:43. | |
and said lessons would be learned. But it has intensified worries | :42:43. | :42:49. | |
about the effect of saving �50 million. So how is the service in | :42:49. | :42:53. | |
to say that money? Calls are prioritised. If a patient's life is | :42:53. | :42:58. | |
in danger, the service will try to reach them within eight minutes. If | :42:58. | :43:03. | |
not, the patient may wait longer for a different type of vehicle or | :43:03. | :43:08. | |
be given advice over the phone. This, says the ambulance service, | :43:08. | :43:14. | |
is already saving 900 and necessary ambulance journeys a week. These | :43:14. | :43:20. | |
days, different types of vehicles respond. You have the frontline | :43:20. | :43:27. | |
ambulance with a crew of two - it ignition and a paramedic. There is | :43:27. | :43:31. | |
also a rapid response vehicle driven by a paramedic and that has | :43:31. | :43:37. | |
the equipment the same as an ambulance. Also, blanket 24 hour | :43:37. | :43:41. | |
cover will end and vehicles and staff will move to areas where | :43:41. | :43:45. | |
demand is greatest. Managers say savings will make the service | :43:45. | :43:51. | |
better. They also say those living in rural areas have nothing to fear. | :43:51. | :43:57. | |
Those areas whose research -- resources are changing does not | :43:57. | :44:01. | |
mean they will get a worse or different service, but it means we | :44:01. | :44:06. | |
will were closely with our partners to make sure we can provide the | :44:06. | :44:11. | |
right level of service. I members are telling us they are being sent | :44:11. | :44:17. | |
further to respond to jobs. That means patients already are waiting | :44:17. | :44:22. | |
for a longer period of time. Last week, the chief executive of the | :44:23. | :44:27. | |
East of England ambulance trust stood down one month after staff | :44:27. | :44:33. | |
passed a vote of no confidence. The Department of Health, meanwhile, | :44:33. | :44:37. | |
says the savings the service faces are part of savings being made | :44:37. | :44:43. | |
across the whole of the NHS. The EEAS says it will have to do more | :44:43. | :44:49. | |
with less. Earlier this week, Chris Bond spoke | :44:49. | :44:55. | |
to Norman Lamb who has been actively campaigning over cuts in | :44:55. | :45:04. | |
his constituency. She began by asking about the Chief executive | :45:04. | :45:08. | |
quitting his job. He has always been courteous and good to deal | :45:08. | :45:14. | |
with, but I met with the ambulance trust a year redo, making clear my | :45:14. | :45:20. | |
concerns about response times in rural Norfolk. One year on, we | :45:20. | :45:25. | |
haven't achieved the up - where improvements we were hoping for. It | :45:25. | :45:31. | |
is an enormous area the service is covering. The last government | :45:31. | :45:35. | |
decided to amalgamate ambulance trusts to create a mammoth area. We | :45:35. | :45:38. | |
need strong leadership to make sure the service delivers the care | :45:38. | :45:44. | |
people need. You are campaigning about the reorganisation of the | :45:44. | :45:48. | |
ambulance service, but it is your department, the Department of | :45:48. | :45:56. | |
Health, that is courting -- causing the savings to be made had do you | :45:56. | :46:02. | |
square that circle? The government has ring-fenced government spending | :46:02. | :46:10. | |
so there has been no cut, but a marginal increase. Every year, | :46:10. | :46:14. | |
because of the ageing population, costs keep going up so reform is | :46:14. | :46:19. | |
necessary to make the money go further. Do the paramedics and so | :46:19. | :46:25. | |
on understand that you have almost a foot in both camps? Of course | :46:25. | :46:30. | |
there are enormous challenges. I'm doing it as a member of parliament | :46:30. | :46:34. | |
for North Norfolk and I have a responsibility to represent those | :46:34. | :46:38. | |
people to make sure the service is of high quality in gets the care to | :46:38. | :46:42. | |
people when they needed. That is my job as Member of Parliament. As | :46:42. | :46:47. | |
Minister in the Department of Health, it is a question of how we | :46:47. | :46:52. | |
ensure the NHS remains sustainable. Isn't he being hypocritical there | :46:52. | :46:58. | |
some what? I couldn't possibly comment on that particularly. He is | :46:58. | :47:05. | |
well known as a diligent and hard- working constituency MP. But, yes, | :47:05. | :47:10. | |
you could say he also has to robustly defend government policy. | :47:10. | :47:16. | |
He touches on an important point about the size of the region. He | :47:16. | :47:20. | |
also probably would make reference to the fact that there is a mixture | :47:20. | :47:25. | |
of rural and urban and we are a fast-growing population. I want to | :47:25. | :47:33. | |
put that to Tim Hagen. Your area is a rural. Can we expect the same | :47:33. | :47:40. | |
service in rural areas? We should expect a good level of service that | :47:40. | :47:44. | |
meets patients' needs. I was talking to ambulance drivers a few | :47:44. | :47:52. | |
weeks ago and they told me that, on the basis of expected demand, they | :47:52. | :47:57. | |
might be in King's Lynn or Newmarket the next moment or | :47:57. | :48:02. | |
shunted took Ipswich. When that happens, apart from tiredness, it | :48:02. | :48:09. | |
leaves a lack of, -- cover in rural areas. In my area, if they are in | :48:09. | :48:14. | |
King's Lynn, it is no use to a patient who need -- needs an | :48:14. | :48:21. | |
ambulance in Newmarket. contributor said it is not 1912 but | :48:22. | :48:27. | |
2012. Coalition funding is having an impact on the health service and, | :48:27. | :48:32. | |
in particular, on ambulance services. To wait three hours when | :48:32. | :48:36. | |
someone is possibly in a life threatening situation, I can't | :48:36. | :48:40. | |
believe there isn't someone who could have got that person to get | :48:40. | :48:45. | |
them to hospital. Are you saying that is what people have to resort | :48:45. | :48:55. | |
to doing? No, I'm just saying... That is ridiculous! There should be | :48:55. | :49:00. | |
a level of help. The ambulance service can't be everywhere and | :49:01. | :49:06. | |
people need to understand that There are walk-in centres, clinics, | :49:06. | :49:10. | |
hospitals and accident and emergency departments they | :49:10. | :49:15. | |
themselves can reach. It is a factor of a huge growth in | :49:15. | :49:22. | |
population... What we are talking about is a bus service cut with our | :49:22. | :49:26. | |
out-of-hours GP services being reduced. It means people have less | :49:26. | :49:30. | |
means of getting to that service. We will keep you informed about | :49:30. | :49:36. | |
that. The future of foreign students in | :49:36. | :49:41. | |
our universities. According to migration watch, foreign students | :49:41. | :49:46. | |
contribute millions of pounds to the economy of the East. Weeks | :49:46. | :49:51. | |
before the new term started, the UK Border Agency decided to revoke | :49:51. | :49:55. | |
London Metropolitan he's -- Metropolitan's universities licence | :49:55. | :50:00. | |
causing concern over the future of the whole sector. The question for | :50:00. | :50:03. | |
the government is whether to count foreign students in immigration | :50:03. | :50:09. | |
figures or not. East Anglia will be taking a leading role in shaping | :50:09. | :50:14. | |
government policy. Its results day here at the | :50:14. | :50:19. | |
International Centre ate in Norwich. Around 17% of students are from | :50:19. | :50:29. | |
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outside the EU here on a long-term visa. The best thing about here is | :50:30. | :50:36. | |
that... It it is a beautiful chapter in a person's life. He's | :50:36. | :50:45. | |
students have fees ranging from -- up to �24,000 a year. It can bring | :50:45. | :50:49. | |
an extra �16 million to the local economy. But here they say it is | :50:49. | :50:55. | |
not just about the money. A number of graduates go back to their | :50:55. | :50:59. | |
country's and become very good ambassadors with a nascent -- | :50:59. | :51:03. | |
natural inclination to do business and a cultural affiliation to this | :51:03. | :51:08. | |
country. The London Metropolitan or -- Metropolitan University was | :51:09. | :51:16. | |
stripped of its Visa status ability in the summer. Some cases, students | :51:16. | :51:20. | |
just did not turn up to classes. Here, they are leading the charge | :51:20. | :51:24. | |
against what they say is a heavy- handed Home Office attitude. It | :51:25. | :51:30. | |
could damage for ever the academic and cultural benefits that | :51:30. | :51:34. | |
international students bring. Across the East, 17 smaller schools | :51:34. | :51:40. | |
and colleges have had their licences to grind feeders revoked | :51:40. | :51:45. | |
since 2009 -- grant visas. One professor who has been appointed to | :51:45. | :51:49. | |
chair a task force looking at these is his calling for a change to the | :51:49. | :51:55. | |
way student numbers are counted. would like them to remove | :51:55. | :52:00. | |
University sponsors from their net migration target and say this bit | :52:00. | :52:06. | |
of so-called migration we actively wish to grow. The Home Office, | :52:06. | :52:11. | |
however, told us it will not remove students from the immigration | :52:11. | :52:21. | |
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The system puts the UK in line with other countries. The net migration | :52:26. | :52:31. | |
figure is exactly the same with other countries in the way it is | :52:31. | :52:39. | |
calculated. The United States, Canada, Australia all include | :52:39. | :52:42. | |
students in their net migration figures. There is no reason why we | :52:42. | :52:48. | |
shouldn't. For the government it is about getting the balance right. | :52:48. | :52:52. | |
course we need to have a rigorous these the system and the vice- | :52:52. | :52:57. | |
chancellors would agree with that. We need to make the most of what is | :52:57. | :53:03. | |
a brilliant heritage that Britain has in our outstanding universities | :53:03. | :53:08. | |
and sell that around the world. Meanwhile, the task force's working | :53:08. | :53:12. | |
on a system to count how many students on visas leave the country | :53:12. | :53:19. | |
each year. Labour's former higher education | :53:19. | :53:22. | |
minister joins us and the Vice Chancellor of the University of | :53:22. | :53:25. | |
Bedfordshire. Bill, what percentage of your | :53:25. | :53:34. | |
students are from non-EU countries? About 5,500. Very significant. I | :53:34. | :53:38. | |
think overseas students at die university and across the country | :53:38. | :53:43. | |
bring enormous benefits to universities and students and to | :53:43. | :53:48. | |
our economy. Overseas students are worth about �8 billion a year to | :53:48. | :53:53. | |
the UK economy apart from the other benefits that we want our British | :53:53. | :53:59. | |
students to have a global mindset and skill set. Living, working and | :53:59. | :54:04. | |
studying with students from other nationalities is a positive benefit. | :54:04. | :54:09. | |
But I universities like yours using students to prop up finances? | :54:09. | :54:13. | |
will not delight there is a financial element but it is broader | :54:13. | :54:19. | |
than that. At a time when public funding is being cut back, overseas | :54:19. | :54:23. | |
students bring financial income strains, but we want our students | :54:23. | :54:28. | |
to integrate and have connections internationally. As was said on | :54:28. | :54:32. | |
your piece, when the students go home, they link back to the | :54:32. | :54:36. | |
university they study being. The connections they have made also and | :54:36. | :54:41. | |
that is a powerful benefit to us as a country. Are you in denial about | :54:41. | :54:47. | |
the concerns over immigration controls? No, I was a member of | :54:47. | :54:52. | |
parliament for 13 years and the biggest element of my postbag was | :54:52. | :54:57. | |
concerns about illegal immigration, but overseas students are not the | :54:57. | :55:02. | |
same. They are here for a short period of time for a specific | :55:02. | :55:05. | |
educational purpose and I don't see why we should lump them together | :55:05. | :55:11. | |
with other migrants and actively tried to reduce them. You need to | :55:11. | :55:14. | |
reduce illegal immigration and I understand the argument for | :55:14. | :55:19. | |
reducing other forms of migration, but overseas students bring us a | :55:20. | :55:25. | |
real benefit. Stewart Jackson, is and revoking licences an over | :55:25. | :55:31. | |
reaction? No, not at all. Bill will know it was an open secret under | :55:31. | :55:34. | |
the last government that there were language schools and other scores | :55:34. | :55:39. | |
and colleges that were trading on illegal immigration. To give them | :55:39. | :55:44. | |
their due, they did begin to tackle that. The ID you can disregard | :55:44. | :55:49. | |
students as being part of the overall Immigration past the -- | :55:49. | :55:54. | |
package is nonsense. The problem was never ignored and there were | :55:54. | :55:59. | |
changes rightly made to tackle bogus colleges. If you listen to | :55:59. | :56:04. | |
the argument made about removing university overseas students from | :56:04. | :56:09. | |
the migration cab, it is university overseas students and not those | :56:09. | :56:15. | |
studying in private colleges or schools. -- cap. There is a real | :56:15. | :56:20. | |
benefit in having legitimate overseas students studying at I | :56:20. | :56:26. | |
universities. Tim, the colleges here in the he's that lost their | :56:26. | :56:29. | |
licences said they pulled out because the situation became too | :56:29. | :56:34. | |
complicated. We heard the rules had been changed over a dozen times and | :56:34. | :56:40. | |
this is affecting the whole sector, isn't it? When we look at the World | :56:40. | :56:45. | |
few and our competitiveness, if this is the message we are sending | :56:45. | :56:52. | |
out, that we put owners burdened so on students, that is the first | :56:52. | :56:59. | |
message they get -- own arrest burdens. We need to be much better | :56:59. | :57:03. | |
at bringing in students with a minimal fuss and making sure | :57:03. | :57:07. | |
processes are in place so that they return afterwards with a good view | :57:07. | :57:12. | |
of the world. I was on the Public Accounts Committee when we looked | :57:12. | :57:16. | |
at this a few months ago and died tackled the gentleman from the | :57:16. | :57:22. | |
London School of Economics it was 0.3% of the income thereby getting | :57:22. | :57:27. | |
from students and the cost of processing visas. There is a lot of | :57:27. | :57:32. | |
what you might call an enlightened self- interest. My challenge to the | :57:32. | :57:37. | |
universities are, why aren't you developing more bursaries book | :57:37. | :57:42. | |
students in the UK? We are bringing in millions of pounds a year into | :57:42. | :57:48. | |
the UK economy. Shouldn't we encourage more UK students to go to | :57:48. | :57:53. | |
these universities? Yes, we should. At a university we have the best | :57:54. | :57:58. | |
scholarship programme in the country, but we are capped on the | :57:58. | :58:01. | |
number of home students we can admit by the government. There is | :58:01. | :58:07. | |
not a trade-off between home and overseas students. Home students | :58:07. | :58:16. | |
sometimes prop up causes that otherwise would not run -- overseas | :58:16. | :58:26. | |
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students, but -- prop up some causes that might otherwise not one | :58:26. | :58:32. | |
-- and run. Now, the The Week in 60 Seconds. | :58:32. | :58:38. | |
The wheat crops failed and food prices are set to soar so the | :58:38. | :58:47. | |
former agriculture minister was praised at the conference. | :58:47. | :58:50. | |
deserves our praise for bringing farmers and processors together | :58:50. | :58:59. | |
before agreeing a code of practice. Councillors -- Business welcomed | :58:59. | :59:03. | |
plans for �22 million worth of investment clearing bottlenecks. | :59:03. | :59:08. | |
We have identified six schemes which will ease the congestion and | :59:08. | :59:13. | |
improve the safety record. As the anniversary of the Battle of Dale | :59:13. | :59:21. | |
Farm approach is, Eric Pickles has plans to stop travellers in illegal | :59:21. | :59:26. | |
sites in their tracks. A new instant stop notice will allow | :59:26. | :59:36. | |
councils to issue finds to those who defy a planning laws. | :59:36. | :59:40. | |
Notices and finds, will they stop travellers parking on illegal | :59:40. | :59:45. | |
sites? I doubt it, because in many occasions they do have nowhere else | :59:45. | :59:53. | |
to go. They have to step up to the plate. Will it work chasing | :59:53. | :59:58. | |
travellers for fines? You need to have a policy that is tough and has | :59:58. | :00:04. | |
a bit of a carrot aspect to it. We need to give financial incentives | :00:04. | :00:09. | |
to local authorities to make greater provision for travellers | :00:09. | :00:15. | |
because there isn't that incentive at the moment. In fact, the problem | :00:15. | :00:18. | |
of travellers and unauthorised encampments is prevalent across our | :00:18. | :00:24. | |
region. So the key is to provide more funding and site? And also be | :00:25. | :00:28. |