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Here in the east, we're in Stevenage, on the beat with the | :01:39. | :01:42. | |
community, and giving them the chance to put their concerns over | :01:42. | :01:52. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2288 seconds | :01:52. | :40:00. | |
crime to their candidates for Good morning. Whereat Vincent | :40:00. | :40:08. | |
Motorcycle Club at the Hyde in Stevenage -- we are at. It looks | :40:08. | :40:12. | |
quiet now, but this week a dispersal order has been put in | :40:12. | :40:16. | |
place covering the same area, to prevent groups committing anti- | :40:16. | :40:21. | |
social behaviour. We have invited an audience who have the | :40:21. | :40:24. | |
opportunity to put some questions to the three police and crime | :40:24. | :40:29. | |
commissioner candidates for heart for Archer. Elections take place on | :40:29. | :40:39. | |
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November 15th. -- for Hertfordshire. We have Sherma Batson, David Lloyd | :40:47. | :40:51. | |
and Christopher Townshend. Theresa May has talked about how the police | :40:51. | :40:56. | |
and crime commissioner should be a local voice for local people. How | :40:56. | :41:04. | |
were you planning to connect with local people? This is a huge | :41:04. | :41:08. | |
opportunity to engage with communities. The police and crime | :41:08. | :41:11. | |
commissionaire is the voice of the community so it is important for | :41:11. | :41:17. | |
them to get out there, listen to the views command and listen to | :41:17. | :41:22. | |
people's experiences. We are engaging already through the | :41:22. | :41:28. | |
electoral process. Yesterday I was out in my constituency talking to | :41:28. | :41:33. | |
people out there. On a more formal basis it will be bringing together | :41:34. | :41:40. | |
partners, speaking to those who have already been elected to | :41:40. | :41:45. | |
councils, people in health. But making sure we have regular | :41:45. | :41:52. | |
meetings, to meet local people. am a local borough councillor, I | :41:52. | :41:57. | |
knock-on people's doors, speak to local media. Communicating to | :41:57. | :42:06. | |
people would be my key. Back to that dispersal order over | :42:06. | :42:12. | |
this area, the Hyde and Stevenage. We explain what that means and some | :42:12. | :42:22. | |
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of the problems which have caused When it was built in the 1950s, the | :42:23. | :42:28. | |
Hyde was part of a bright new future for Stevenage. These days | :42:28. | :42:32. | |
the shops and flats have seen better days and the Hyde has been | :42:32. | :42:38. | |
plagued by anti-social behaviour. This man lives are one of the flats | :42:38. | :42:43. | |
with his partner. Just everything from them kicking the ball up the | :42:43. | :42:51. | |
wall, I had my bike stolen a few weeks ago. Kids' comedy -- children | :42:51. | :42:55. | |
and constantly screaming and throwing abuse. Sometimes the | :42:55. | :43:00. | |
police can take up to 24 hours to deal with the situation. | :43:00. | :43:03. | |
Hertfordshire police are quick to point out that crime across | :43:03. | :43:08. | |
Stevenage is falling, but this week they placed a dispersal order on | :43:08. | :43:18. | |
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McColm two. -- on the Hyde. If anyone with a ban returns to be | :43:19. | :43:22. | |
area they have the power to arrest the individual for a complete -- | :43:22. | :43:28. | |
for failing to comply with the ban. Their head teacher at the nearby | :43:28. | :43:34. | |
school says he is not aware of his pupils being involved in anti- | :43:34. | :43:38. | |
social behaviour. We obviously taken interest in what happens | :43:38. | :43:43. | |
after school, but it is difficult to apply your set of rules and | :43:43. | :43:47. | |
standards. We have a very clear expectation of behaviour in the | :43:47. | :43:52. | |
school, the students are well behaved, but we often wonder how | :43:52. | :43:55. | |
their behaviour is after school when they have not quite so many | :43:56. | :44:03. | |
rules. If they are hanging around to set the boundaries for them? | :44:03. | :44:07. | |
What such as things are you seen here? We see a lot of drunkenness | :44:07. | :44:13. | |
out in the streets. Best man as part of the solution to anti-social | :44:13. | :44:17. | |
behaviour. He is one of 20 volunteer street pastors in | :44:17. | :44:20. | |
Stevenage to patrol the streets on a Saturday night. It could be | :44:20. | :44:25. | |
someone who has had too much to drink, a vulnerable lady who needs | :44:25. | :44:30. | |
to be what to a taxi rank or even walk home. Or it could be chatting | :44:30. | :44:39. | |
to people who just want to top. For people like Mike -- Mike | :44:40. | :44:46. | |
Cassidy at the Hyde, they do not necessarily care how the police are | :44:46. | :44:51. | |
run, they just want to know that if they ask for it help then they will | :44:51. | :44:55. | |
get it. Oli Khan, you run a local business | :44:55. | :45:03. | |
here, tell us about your experience of what life can be like? I have | :45:03. | :45:08. | |
had three incidents in the last five years. One of the worst ones | :45:08. | :45:14. | |
was six or seven months ago. There were three gentleman over the age | :45:14. | :45:18. | |
of 20. They wear a little bit drunk and a high street and there was a | :45:18. | :45:24. | |
boy of 12 years old. He went to the shop and got some crisps and drinks. | :45:24. | :45:33. | |
The gentleman went after him to grab his back of snacks and drinks. | :45:33. | :45:38. | |
-- his back. The gentlemen were slightly drunk. It is an | :45:39. | :45:43. | |
interesting story, but I am going to have to hurry you slightly, I am | :45:43. | :45:47. | |
afraid. I call the police and things get worse. They are shouting | :45:47. | :45:57. | |
and they have some weapons. What is your question? My question to the | :45:57. | :46:06. | |
candidates is, how would you ensure that the Government -- that | :46:06. | :46:14. | |
policing will be for the many, not just for the few? It needs to be | :46:14. | :46:24. | |
for the many. 70 per cent of offences are being turned out to. | :46:24. | :46:29. | |
This is about reducing crime, and that has to happen further up the | :46:29. | :46:33. | |
line. As soon as you have to call the police something has gone wrong. | :46:33. | :46:38. | |
That is about working with partner organisations and making sure that | :46:38. | :46:48. | |
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the local council works with the police. You spoke about an | :46:50. | :46:54. | |
individual case, and I do not think we can answer every individual case. | :46:54. | :46:59. | |
It is unfortunate what you had to experience. Over all, crime rates | :46:59. | :47:05. | |
are low and that is good. We must continue to head in that direction. | :47:05. | :47:08. | |
As police and crime commissioner we have to take over site and make | :47:08. | :47:15. | |
sure you were getting the right sort of response that you need. | :47:15. | :47:18. | |
would agree with the others that there needs to be as quicker | :47:18. | :47:23. | |
response as possible for those sorts of crimes. But it is not just | :47:23. | :47:27. | |
the police, it is the community safety partnership that will work | :47:27. | :47:31. | |
together, engaging with the community, indicating what the | :47:31. | :47:35. | |
commission as well, to get more of a sense of what is happening, what | :47:35. | :47:40. | |
the responses are like, and whether people are satisfied. We need | :47:40. | :47:43. | |
feedback to make sure that the constabulary will improve on what | :47:43. | :47:48. | |
they did before are based on experiences. We do not like these | :47:48. | :47:51. | |
things to happen, but I would certainly be bringing partners | :47:51. | :47:55. | |
together, including the local council, businesses, residents' | :47:55. | :48:02. | |
groups, so they can contribute. Experience you may contrast with | :48:02. | :48:08. | |
somewhere only a few miles down the road. N Baldock, the police station | :48:08. | :48:13. | |
was closed last May. It is now disused. Police visit twice a week | :48:13. | :48:18. | |
but there is no actual building as a centre for policing in Baldock | :48:18. | :48:23. | |
any more. There is concern locally about | :48:23. | :48:28. | |
places like Baldock. Councillor Michael Moore joins us now. Let us | :48:28. | :48:37. | |
hear those concerns. Baldock constables now have to report at | :48:37. | :48:43. | |
another police station. So far, and her 1/2 is lost each day at the | :48:43. | :48:50. | |
beginning and the end of each shift. -- an hour and a half is lost. They | :48:50. | :49:00. | |
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would prefer to be based N Baldock. Paying rent to be part of their | :49:04. | :49:09. | |
community centre is not seen as viable to the police hierarchy. | :49:09. | :49:14. | |
What would you do to bring this matter to a satisfactory conclusion | :49:15. | :49:24. | |
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for the people of Baldock? I have some experience of this. There have | :49:26. | :49:31. | |
been pressures on budgets, there is no denying it. A lot of real estate | :49:31. | :49:36. | |
has gone. We are facing a possible change in model where we are moving | :49:36. | :49:42. | |
away from having the community police station being a centre, | :49:42. | :49:47. | |
towards a neighbourhood policing team. I think that is where things | :49:47. | :49:52. | |
are going. I am sad that this notion of a police station, which | :49:52. | :49:57. | |
everyone knows is a centre, is going. But I am supportive, and I | :49:57. | :50:01. | |
think that the teams seemed to be working quite effectively. I will | :50:01. | :50:07. | |
have to get the others in. I am very sorry that that is happening | :50:07. | :50:12. | |
in those kinds of the areas. Unfortunately, cuts in policing | :50:12. | :50:16. | |
generally means that there is not as much support as there used to be. | :50:16. | :50:21. | |
It is crucial right now for partnerships to get together, with | :50:21. | :50:25. | |
your parish council, with your councillors, to see what kind of | :50:25. | :50:30. | |
solution see can actually come up with together. According to the | :50:30. | :50:34. | |
needs of that the area. That is very important. We will have the | :50:34. | :50:38. | |
opportunity to engage with you commissioner to talk about the | :50:38. | :50:43. | |
opportunities you have got, to work together, to find a solution for | :50:43. | :50:49. | |
you. Thanks to a Labour government we do have neighbourhood teams now | :50:49. | :50:56. | |
that would not have been there before. 21st century policing is | :50:56. | :51:02. | |
about policing for the people by the poll -- by the people. It | :51:02. | :51:08. | |
should be in the community. We cannot afford to put a lot of money | :51:08. | :51:16. | |
in the community. -- into buildings. What people want is a presence. We | :51:16. | :51:19. | |
can have them in a local council office or a community centre, that | :51:19. | :51:25. | |
is exactly the place to be. Policing has moved on. We need | :51:25. | :51:31. | |
someone in the community and that is what I am all about. Let us move | :51:31. | :51:36. | |
on to business and the demands that they have of the police. I | :51:36. | :51:40. | |
understand you are from the Chamber of Commerce. What is your question? | :51:41. | :51:45. | |
I think someone once -- everyone wants a new structure which is | :51:45. | :51:49. | |
efficient and fair. People are concerned about the cost of that | :51:49. | :51:58. | |
structure. Will it cost less than the current structure? Sherma | :51:58. | :52:05. | |
Batson? The government wants there to be cuts in the service. We had | :52:05. | :52:08. | |
far more pleasing on the streets than we do now, so there is an | :52:08. | :52:13. | |
issue about the costing of it. I am a bit concerned about how those | :52:13. | :52:17. | |
savings will be found, because you will end up affecting the service | :52:17. | :52:22. | |
that you get if you cut too much. I would be keen to be talking to all | :52:22. | :52:26. | |
agencies and businesses to find out what they think their impact would | :52:26. | :52:31. | |
be on those cuts and how much it will cost. I think you question was | :52:31. | :52:36. | |
about the cost of their police and Crown commissioner? | :52:36. | :52:43. | |
administration cost has been about one million pounds. David Lloyd? | :52:44. | :52:53. | |
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you put it into a business Seth -- sense, rather than running a huge | :52:54. | :52:58. | |
separate organisation, if I become their police and crime Commission I | :52:58. | :53:02. | |
will see that as the chairman's office and it should bring together | :53:02. | :53:07. | |
a lot of the back offices that are currently separate between police | :53:07. | :53:11. | |
constabulary and police authority. I will remain together because it | :53:11. | :53:17. | |
is one team looking at reducing crime in the county. Be question is | :53:17. | :53:21. | |
about police a authority. There are going to be savings because at the | :53:21. | :53:25. | |
moment there are 12 members and you're going to have won police | :53:25. | :53:32. | |
crime commissioner. But unfortunately there will be the | :53:32. | :53:38. | |
cost of elections. Roughly, it will stay the same in terms of cost. | :53:38. | :53:42. | |
we head in the sun, support for victims as part of the police and | :53:42. | :53:52. | |
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crime commissioner role. -- as we heard, support for victims. What is | :53:58. | :54:04. | |
your question? Our question is given for every pound invested in | :54:04. | :54:08. | |
the women's sector you see a 14 pounds return on that investment, | :54:08. | :54:11. | |
we would like to see how the candidates are going to safeguard | :54:11. | :54:16. | |
and support is very vital service, given that it receives no local or | :54:16. | :54:21. | |
central funding at the moment. think domestic violence is one of | :54:21. | :54:26. | |
the evils that we have in society. It is something that we need to | :54:26. | :54:32. | |
stop. It is a great example of where you work with various pas ne | :54:32. | :54:37. | |
organisations. Working alongside health to ensure that abuse does | :54:37. | :54:43. | |
not happen through alcohol abuse. - - partner organisations. In terms | :54:43. | :54:48. | |
of direct funding, I do not know who you are funded by. I imagine | :54:48. | :54:52. | |
the borough council might be some money in, but if you do it all | :54:52. | :54:57. | |
alone... Certainly, I look be very interested in seeing how I could | :54:57. | :55:02. | |
help the funding. But of course, I cannot say yes to everyone, so we | :55:02. | :55:08. | |
need to look at the overall funding levels across the county. Same | :55:08. | :55:13. | |
question to you, Christopher Townshend. I cannot say yes to | :55:13. | :55:19. | |
everyone as well. But you spend �1, you make 14. That is a very good | :55:19. | :55:25. | |
angle. I will seek to protect the funding for this. I think on a more | :55:25. | :55:30. | |
emotional level, if you like, I will try to make sure I understand | :55:30. | :55:36. | |
what you're trying to do in your organisation. One of my priorities | :55:36. | :55:40. | |
would be supporting victims more than they are supported at the | :55:41. | :55:46. | |
moment. Victims of domestic violence certainly, because one of | :55:46. | :55:54. | |
five Kohl's 2999 i from domestic violence victims -- one in South | :55:54. | :56:03. | |
phone-calls to the emergency number our domestic violence victims. | :56:03. | :56:07. | |
There is not a lot of money, we need to pool the resources, to make | :56:07. | :56:11. | |
sure we cannot support a victims so that they will come forward and get | :56:11. | :56:18. | |
the support that the need. We can just squeeze one more question and. | :56:18. | :56:24. | |
How will you stop politics creeping into their job? A good question. | :56:25. | :56:30. | |
Christopher Townshend? I do not feel I am a politician, I have a | :56:30. | :56:35. | |
regular job, I am hard working, I am a family man. In my spare time I | :56:35. | :56:40. | |
am a counsellor. You're going to have to be priests. I will try in | :56:40. | :56:49. | |
the pragmatic and compassionate. you will have to be quick. We will | :56:49. | :56:54. | |
all have to sign an oath to say that we will not put politics of | :56:54. | :56:58. | |
four people and we certainly will not. We do not do it in our roles | :56:58. | :57:04. | |
as councillors currently. I have been a community person most of my | :57:04. | :57:09. | |
working life, a community person and a politician to try and help | :57:09. | :57:15. | |
get things done. As far as I'm concerned, the chief constable as | :57:15. | :57:18. | |
an operational job today and I would not interfere with that and | :57:18. | :57:23. | |
bring politics into it, because people are far more important. | :57:23. | :57:27. | |
just want a show of hands, you have heard arguments today so I would | :57:27. | :57:29. | |
love to see how many people here think that a police and crime | :57:29. | :57:33. | |
commissioner will make a difference. Hands up if you think it will make | :57:34. | :57:39. | |
a difference? Let us have an unscientific show of hands. I think | :57:39. | :57:44. | |
that great just... You could just have swung into. Still some work to | :57:44. | :57:49. | |
do! 90 very much for Downing us today, it has been great to have | :57:49. | :57:59. | |
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you here. -- thank you very much for joining us today. | :58:04. | :58:11. | |
Now back -- a change in the law was called for this week to give | :58:11. | :58:15. | |
drivers and breaks down into just how much fuel duty they are paying. | :58:15. | :58:20. | |
We were sure how much the oil companies are ripping us off. -- we | :58:20. | :58:30. | |
will show. On the anniversary of the Battle of | :58:30. | :58:35. | |
Dale Farm, we ask the community Secretary whether his local council | :58:35. | :58:40. | |
Brentwood had provided any new traveller pitches. They are about | :58:40. | :58:46. | |
to go through a process of local planning to identify sites. That is | :58:46. | :58:51. | |
in no, then. Meanwhile the new Health Secretary | :58:51. | :59:01. | |
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Jeremy Hunt have paid a visit to India dementia unit. -- and you | :59:02. | :59:08. | |
dementia unit. I'm David Cameron visited Kettering | :59:08. | :59:17. | |
Hospital. -- and David Cameron. That is all from us in Stevenage. | :59:18. | :59:22. | |
Our thanks to all the police and crime commissioner candidates. And | :59:22. | :59:27. | |
thank you to the audience for joining us today. There are more | :59:27. | :59:37. |