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Fake Good morning. From the rose garden to a tractor factory. The | :00:47. | :00:50. | |
Prime Minister promises a new focus on the economy but will the | :00:50. | :00:57. | |
relaunch of the Queen's Speech make a difference? Eric Pickles joins us | :00:57. | :01:00. | |
for the Sunday interview. Is there an alternative blueprint | :01:00. | :01:08. | |
that would get the economy moving again? The two big economic ideas | :01:08. | :01:13. | |
of the age or head-to-head. The pressure is on Jeremy Hunt and | :01:13. | :01:17. | |
the Tory party after Rebekah Brooks appeared at the Leveson Inquiry. | :01:17. | :01:23. | |
She revealed a cosy relationship between new Labour and News | :01:23. | :01:33. | |
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International. If we bring you the latest on the | :01:40. | :01:47. | |
deal by a Rangers football club. Air accident publish their findings | :01:48. | :01:57. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 65 seconds | :01:58. | :03:03. | |
want helicopters stitching. The body of another child was found | :03:03. | :03:09. | |
The body of another child was found at a late on Saturday night. | :03:09. | :03:13. | |
Workers have been bent over in tears. You do not see that very | :03:13. | :03:23. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 65 seconds | :03:23. | :29:06. | |
often. We are feeling for the We have a crater in the economy. | :29:06. | :29:12. | |
There is a great big hole as a result of the a financial crisis. | :29:12. | :29:20. | |
It is nothing to do with government. Deprive right -- the private | :29:20. | :29:23. | |
finance sector crashed and the government had to take on the | :29:23. | :29:28. | |
liabilities. The government is saying it is nothing to do with | :29:28. | :29:38. | |
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them. It is the equivalent of appeasement. They are sitting there, | :29:40. | :29:47. | |
leaving this great creator of unemployment, inactivity. How would | :29:47. | :29:56. | |
you fill that hole? The fact is that the business sector does not | :29:57. | :30:01. | |
have confidence. They are afraid, they can see the economy | :30:01. | :30:11. | |
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contracting. Public investment. big programme of public investment. | :30:14. | :30:23. | |
In housing and also in... What is wrong with that? It goes to what | :30:24. | :30:30. | |
Liam Fox said in the package. Did the Labour government not spend | :30:30. | :30:38. | |
enough? We have tested this policy to destruction. Austerity, really | :30:38. | :30:46. | |
means living within your means, balancing the books. Having a | :30:46. | :30:50. | |
stable environment helps you to make reforms are to help the | :30:50. | :30:57. | |
business economy. I think that Eric Pickles was rather feeble in what | :30:57. | :31:07. | |
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the coalition has damn to help this does. -- has done. The reason the | :31:11. | :31:16. | |
collision cannot do anything is because it is paralysed by ideology. | :31:16. | :31:26. | |
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And you are repeating that. Seeing we have to balance the books. | :31:27. | :31:34. | |
not know about years, but the government has already borrowed a | :31:34. | :31:40. | |
trillion pounds. Under current spending plans, that will rise to | :31:40. | :31:48. | |
1.5 trillion bike 2016. And you want to borrow even more? Yes. The | :31:48. | :31:55. | |
government is not like you. You cannot go to the Bank of England, | :31:55. | :32:04. | |
but the government can. And when the government... When you spend, | :32:04. | :32:09. | |
you do not get money back again. When the government spends, it get | :32:10. | :32:19. | |
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tax revenues. This is fantasy. we do? -- what would you do? I what | :32:21. | :32:26. | |
the Government to do much more on red tape. Irrelevant. It is not | :32:26. | :32:34. | |
irrelevant. The costs faced by the start-up of a new accompany are | :32:34. | :32:44. | |
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extremely high. Should it be easier to fire people? Yes. That is | :32:45. | :32:55. | |
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austerity. You would have more people working. We have the lowest | :32:58. | :33:04. | |
taxes across the whole of OECD. We pay much lower unemployment benefit. | :33:04. | :33:14. | |
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We have much less protection for our workers. If you look at what | :33:15. | :33:19. | |
Germany has done over the last 10 years, it has liberalised its | :33:19. | :33:26. | |
employment laws enormously. It allows companies to take on people | :33:26. | :33:36. | |
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as consultants for four years, no questions asked, no legal | :33:37. | :33:45. | |
requirements. Germany went down a road of liberalisation. | :33:45. | :33:49. | |
deregulated the labour market. as much as we have done. It is much | :33:49. | :33:54. | |
more expensive to hire a German worker, the taxes that they pay and | :33:54. | :34:04. | |
are paid on them, than a British worker. I do not think you are | :34:04. | :34:10. | |
offering much more than blood, sweat and tears. My we would get | :34:10. | :34:16. | |
colossal numbers of unemployed young people into work. -- a my | :34:16. | :34:24. | |
method. You want to act on the demand side, increased demand. You | :34:24. | :34:29. | |
are acting on the supply side to try to make the supply side more | :34:29. | :34:33. | |
efficient. Why don't you get together and do both? We do not | :34:33. | :34:40. | |
need to do the supply side. We could improve our productivity in | :34:40. | :34:46. | |
Wareham best -- if we invested more in our businesses. There is already | :34:46. | :34:51. | |
a fiscal stimulus. We will add another �500 billion to the | :34:51. | :34:56. | |
national debt. Why do we not try to solve the problem from the other | :34:56. | :35:06. | |
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Good morning and welcome to Sunday Politics Scotland. Coming up on the | :35:09. | :35:17. | |
programme. At last, it is done. Rangers have | :35:17. | :35:20. | |
agreed a deal with the former Sheffield United Chief Executive | :35:20. | :35:22. | |
Charles Green. We will be live in Aberdeen as the | :35:22. | :35:24. | |
AAIB initial investigation into Thursday's helicopter ditching | :35:24. | :35:26. | |
finds a failure occurred in the main gear box. | :35:26. | :35:29. | |
And as coalition deals are struck across local councils, we ask, can | :35:29. | :35:33. | |
you shake hands and hold your nose at the same time? | :35:33. | :35:36. | |
A trip to Quebec, a Canadian province that has played the | :35:36. | :35:39. | |
referendum game before. And finally, a plea to recognise | :35:39. | :35:49. | |
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the Scottish veterans who braved On the day of the final Rangers | :35:51. | :35:56. | |
match of the season, the former Sheffield United chief-executive | :35:56. | :35:59. | |
Charles Green has come to an arrangement with which he hopes to | :35:59. | :36:04. | |
buy the team. There has been a press conference this morning. What | :36:04. | :36:11. | |
do we know this morning? Charles Green is fronting the | :36:11. | :36:15. | |
consortium that has made a bed that has been accepted to purchase | :36:15. | :36:21. | |
Rangers. The administrators are saying that this is a vocal ball | :36:21. | :36:25. | |
agreement to buy the club. He will try it a CVA initially to try to | :36:25. | :36:35. | |
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bring the club out of administration. They will try to | :36:36. | :36:39. | |
appease their debts owed to HMRC and Ticketus. If that does not | :36:39. | :36:49. | |
succeed, a newco company will be set up, owned by Charles Green. | :36:49. | :36:57. | |
That will kick them if a CVA is not accepted by creditors. But that CVA | :36:57. | :37:06. | |
is their preferred option. If this goes ahead, what does it | :37:06. | :37:11. | |
mean in terms of the sort of team at Rangers will be able to put up? | :37:11. | :37:15. | |
It is very difficult to predict that until we see the full details | :37:15. | :37:19. | |
of what Charles Green is proposing. He did say that not every decision | :37:19. | :37:25. | |
that will be taken will be a comfortable one, or an easy one. | :37:25. | :37:31. | |
That suggests there will be decisions taken under his ownership, | :37:31. | :37:41. | |
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under the consortium. It is difficult to predict what it means | :37:42. | :37:46. | |
in terms of the team that they might be able to put on the park | :37:46. | :37:52. | |
next season. It is a reasonable to assume that it will be a | :37:52. | :37:55. | |
streamlined squad that will not be able to pay the sort of wages and | :37:55. | :38:02. | |
type of players that have been brought it to Ibrox in the past. | :38:02. | :38:12. | |
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But a lot remains to be decided. Here is our economic commentator. | :38:16. | :38:21. | |
Do you think it is a done deal? Yesterday, Charles Green was | :38:21. | :38:25. | |
talking about himself as the new preferred bidder for the club. From | :38:25. | :38:33. | |
what I have heard so far, there are 20 different strands of money going | :38:33. | :38:41. | |
into the pot from different families and groups. Whether that | :38:41. | :38:47. | |
is a done deal or not, and will be delivered to the administrators, | :38:47. | :38:54. | |
remains to be seen. This CVA, whether or not it goes | :38:54. | :39:01. | |
ahead, how will it work in practice? | :39:01. | :39:07. | |
There are two choices. The company a voluntary arrangement. That is an | :39:08. | :39:12. | |
arrangement an insolvent company has with his creditors. It has to | :39:12. | :39:18. | |
get their agreement. That is the arrangement that will come together. | :39:18. | :39:22. | |
To put some kind of figure on how much they will get out of the pot | :39:22. | :39:30. | |
of money. We do not know what the liabilities are yet because we have | :39:30. | :39:37. | |
not had the result of the big tax cases that are still outstanding. | :39:37. | :39:47. | |
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We do not actually know what the extent of the debt is and what this | :39:47. | :39:57. | |
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asset that is being created to pay it off, how big it will be. If HMRC | :39:58. | :40:08. | |
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does not say yes to as the -- does not say yes to this CVA, Rangers | :40:09. | :40:16. | |
will have to be liquidated and a new Company will be created. The | :40:16. | :40:20. | |
club will come ten-year, but the decks and will be left behind in | :40:20. | :40:30. | |
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the old company. -- debts. We do not know the full extent of | :40:35. | :40:43. | |
the debt. What would happen to them under the new company arrangement? | :40:43. | :40:47. | |
The creditors would get what ever they could out of the liquidated | :40:47. | :40:51. | |
old company. That would depend what assets were left in the liquidated | :40:51. | :40:56. | |
old company. HMRC have not been comfortable | :40:56. | :41:03. | |
about that in the past. The track record of HMRC in dealing | :41:03. | :41:09. | |
with the sort of CVAs, they have tended lot to be players in that | :41:09. | :41:19. | |
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CVAs. ---10 did not have to be. -- tended not to be. I know a lot of | :41:24. | :41:30. | |
lawyers and accountants who have a lot of expertise in this area, and | :41:30. | :41:36. | |
all of them have said to me that it will never go to CVA, it will end | :41:36. | :41:43. | |
up in liquidation. Whether that is the case or not, it is not nice for | :41:43. | :41:51. | |
the Rangers supporter, the like to have the heritage and the history, | :41:51. | :41:55. | |
but in terms of where we are this morning, we are just at the | :41:55. | :42:00. | |
beginning of another part of the journey. We still have to find the | :42:00. | :42:05. | |
outcome of it. Thank you very much indeed. | :42:05. | :42:09. | |
An initial investigation into Thursday's helicopter are ditching | :42:09. | :42:13. | |
in the North Sea has found that a failure occurred in the function of | :42:13. | :42:18. | |
the main gearbox. The 14 people on board escaped after the pilot | :42:18. | :42:22. | |
carried out a textbook controlled landing. There have been | :42:22. | :42:27. | |
developments at this morning. Yes, a lot of development at this | :42:27. | :42:37. | |
morning. The air accident investigation branch had issued a | :42:37. | :42:42. | |
special bulletin this morning. This often takes in weeks or months, but | :42:42. | :42:48. | |
they have done that within a few days. It follows the ditching last | :42:48. | :42:54. | |
week of this helicopter about 30 miles off the coast of Aberdeen. | :42:54. | :43:02. | |
What they have found is a 360 degree crack around the vertical | :43:02. | :43:07. | |
shaft of the media box. That was near a previous Weld, a | :43:07. | :43:13. | |
manufacturing world. That caused interference to the oil supply to | :43:13. | :43:18. | |
the gearbox. A morning alight went on and the crew immediately took | :43:18. | :43:22. | |
action and ditched the helicopter. This is a serious finding for the | :43:22. | :43:31. | |
entire flight. They honours have announced that other helicopters | :43:31. | :43:40. | |
have been grounded. They have also a grounded -- are grounded another | :43:40. | :43:50. | |
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360 what happens from now on to establish what the problem was and | :43:56. | :44:03. | |
when the fleet may be flying again? We were expecting to be attending a | :44:03. | :44:11. | |
press conference this morning. That was called off. The report was | :44:11. | :44:17. | |
expected last night but we heard there were technical difficulties. | :44:17. | :44:22. | |
Bond will be at -- outlining what they will do in detail. I suspect | :44:22. | :44:27. | |
they will go round the entire fleet. Deraa two other helicopter | :44:27. | :44:37. | |
companies operating out of Aberdeen. They have not taking any action yet. | :44:37. | :44:45. | |
They have found no problems so far. There could be a safety directive | :44:45. | :44:49. | |
given at some point which may result in that. We're not expecting | :44:49. | :44:55. | |
that at the moment. We will hear later on this afternoon. There are | :44:55. | :45:04. | |
big implications here from the thousands of workers. | :45:04. | :45:08. | |
A week on and wheeler-dealing in council chambers across the country | :45:08. | :45:13. | |
is still going on. We have seen unexpected alliances but what is | :45:13. | :45:22. | |
behind the collisions? -- collisions. | :45:22. | :45:28. | |
Labour won overall control in Glasgow and three other areas. The | :45:28. | :45:34. | |
same is true for the SNP in Dundee and Angus where it has formed a | :45:34. | :45:41. | |
majority administrations. In a hung councils, there are all sorts of | :45:41. | :45:51. | |
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wonderful alliances. Take a look at Aberdeenshire. It has all types of | :45:51. | :45:57. | |
different councillors in charge. In the Highlands, it is similar. In | :45:57. | :46:07. | |
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eastern Martin Show, there is a Labour, Lib Dem, Tory deal. While | :46:08. | :46:16. | |
an egg and borough, Labour-run BSN p have joined forces, in some | :46:16. | :46:21. | |
places, it looks like both parties have gone out of their way to | :46:21. | :46:31. | |
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freeze the other lot out of power - - Edinburgh Mac. In Stirling, | :46:33. | :46:37. | |
Labour-run the Conservatives have a power-sharing pact in what had been | :46:37. | :46:45. | |
an SNP run council. There is a tendency of the Labour Party to | :46:45. | :46:50. | |
going to coalition with the Tories. I am not sure how you Scotland will | :46:50. | :46:59. | |
see a repeat of collisions. I think that is white people vote Labour. | :46:59. | :47:03. | |
Labour says it is working with friends and four was across the | :47:03. | :47:07. | |
political spectrum. A There is an issue of how they have overstated | :47:07. | :47:14. | |
how well they're doing. You can put a big question mark over the | :47:14. | :47:22. | |
momentum. We have made steady progress, we have reconnected with | :47:22. | :47:32. | |
the electorate. Boss Labour-run BSN peak made election gains. In terms | :47:32. | :47:37. | |
of the larger number of councillors which the SNP achieved, the large | :47:37. | :47:44. | |
number again that we achieved. We have a councillor in virtually | :47:44. | :47:49. | |
every ward across this country. If you want to keep celebrating | :47:49. | :47:56. | |
Stallingborough party defeats, that is fine by the SNP. Her BSN p now | :47:56. | :48:02. | |
has a national army of counsellors likely to be tasked with winning | :48:02. | :48:06. | |
the independence referendum and the ward they represent. By definition, | :48:06. | :48:12. | |
pro-union parties of councillors in all parts of Scotland 2. They could | :48:12. | :48:16. | |
deploy them as local leaders in their campaign to keep Scotland as | :48:16. | :48:26. | |
part of the UK. With me, Anas Sarwar and for the | :48:26. | :48:36. | |
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SNP, Kenneth Gibson. The alliance in Edinburgh, a good idea? I don't | :48:39. | :48:44. | |
see why not. It seems sensible for both of them to work together for | :48:44. | :48:49. | |
the good of the city. We would like to have seen more such alliances. | :48:49. | :48:57. | |
If you look at what has happened, where the run all Labour or | :48:57. | :49:02. | |
Conservative councillors, Labour have a coalition in the eight of | :49:02. | :49:11. | |
those areas. Labour seem to prefer to work with conservative. I think | :49:11. | :49:15. | |
he is rattled because the SNP are beatable and Alex Salmond is not | :49:15. | :49:21. | |
invincible. You have seen across the country, the Labour Party | :49:22. | :49:27. | |
working constructively with parties of all political lines. To that is | :49:27. | :49:37. | |
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why use all Labour, SNP packed. You have seen other administrations. We | :49:39. | :49:44. | |
are not focusing around what positions people are in, but where | :49:44. | :49:50. | |
we can deliver Labour Party values. At the moment, we have 13 Labour- | :49:50. | :49:59. | |
led councils compared to eight SNP councils. He were not simply having | :49:59. | :50:06. | |
Unionist alliances to block out the SNP? If you take the example of | :50:06. | :50:12. | |
Edinburgh, we have constructively worked with the SNP to form an | :50:12. | :50:16. | |
administration. We work with whatever party we need to work | :50:16. | :50:25. | |
within the best interests of that city. Some council leaders were | :50:26. | :50:35. | |
saying, SNP leaders, there is little in terms of social policy | :50:35. | :50:41. | |
between Labour and get the SNP. It made sense to work together. Why do | :50:41. | :50:48. | |
you think it has not happened? think it is the issue of Unionism. | :50:48. | :50:54. | |
Him the election literature, it was about stopping Tory cuts but they | :50:54. | :51:00. | |
have dealt with the Tories. I must take issue with what he has said | :51:00. | :51:08. | |
about the election result. We made two gains -- 62 games which | :51:08. | :51:15. | |
extended the Leeds -- lead across the country. If that is Labour | :51:15. | :51:19. | |
stalling her momentum, we could do with more days like that. With all | :51:19. | :51:24. | |
the massive cuts coming down the line, you do not want to be the one | :51:24. | :51:31. | |
in control of the council -- councils? The reason the Labour -- | :51:31. | :51:40. | |
labour wants to have councillors in charge for... Who you are in | :51:40. | :51:50. | |
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coalition with the representatives... The reality of | :51:52. | :51:55. | |
the electoral system is that you must work with political parties to | :51:55. | :52:02. | |
form administrations. He gives the example of Stirling. It is part of | :52:02. | :52:10. | |
that deal we are delivering the range for workers in Stirling. | :52:10. | :52:15. | |
we cut through the layers, the pragmatic thing is that you're | :52:15. | :52:23. | |
going to have to deliver deals with people, you were blaming the Tories | :52:23. | :52:33. | |
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for cuts, but these will be your partners in Council. Take the | :52:34. | :52:38. | |
example of the last Scottish Parliament. The SNP were seeing | :52:39. | :52:48. | |
Wright late that we're there -- that we were getting cuts. Through | :52:48. | :52:52. | |
that parliamentary term, they are playing double games here. This is | :52:52. | :53:01. | |
not a conspiracy. We fought for local communities up and down the | :53:01. | :53:05. | |
country. The reason the SNP is negative is that they realise the | :53:05. | :53:10. | |
momentum has stalled. The realised the Labour Party is taking a | :53:11. | :53:20. | |
positive step. It is a matter of fact that when it went through in | :53:20. | :53:24. | |
Holyrood, you relied on the Tories to get that through. Everyone does | :53:24. | :53:34. | |
those deals. That is not true. The still voted against it. But reverse | :53:34. | :53:41. | |
a lot of the policies, council tax freeze, small business baldness. | :53:41. | :53:51. | |
They have down -- now done a second U-turn. We have not had any | :53:51. | :53:59. | |
agreements with the Conservatives. Sometimes, it seems poisonous. That | :53:59. | :54:04. | |
filters down to the detriment of local democracy. Both it is the | :54:04. | :54:08. | |
fact that Labour feel they have used up their birthright. If we do | :54:08. | :54:16. | |
not feel as bad about them as they seem to feel about us. I have been | :54:16. | :54:26. | |
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in the SNP 33 years. It is not personal. Thank you. | :54:27. | :54:32. | |
Colebeck the province of Canada which held at second referendum in | :54:32. | :54:42. | |
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1995. They had a federal government. The Quebec nationalists came close | :54:43. | :54:53. | |
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A night in Canada, the most popular show in Candida. We have a diverse | :55:06. | :55:15. | |
country. The game brings us together. I grew up, Irish Catholic, | :55:15. | :55:22. | |
he is Jewish. We have these other walks of life. When you get too | :55:22. | :55:32. | |
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cocky, it is all forgotten. Ottawa, the heart of federal politics. He | :55:33. | :55:39. | |
and the most recent elections, the Tories won a large majority. In | :55:39. | :55:46. | |
Quebec, the supported the centre- left. But won the majority in the | :55:46. | :55:52. | |
province. It is a partnership. It is the case between what a wire and | :55:52. | :56:02. | |
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all the provinces. We have our debates and agreements. Politics | :56:03. | :56:08. | |
and can a Dutch is still dominated by public spending cuts. Quebec | :56:08. | :56:13. | |
separatist Slav state in the federal elections last year. In the | :56:13. | :56:23. | |
1990s, they held power in Quebec. For the nearly one their referendum | :56:23. | :56:28. | |
on sovereignty. If the TV screen had red and blue on the bottom and | :56:28. | :56:37. | |
it was wavering all night. In 1995, we had a federal government very | :56:37. | :56:42. | |
like the British government now. It was concerned with cuts, changing | :56:43. | :56:49. | |
the symbols of Canada. Quebec nationalists when arguing they were | :56:49. | :56:54. | |
the ones who were standing up for the collectivist, more left-wing | :56:54. | :57:04. | |
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view of the company -- country. home rule with independence beat | :57:05. | :57:10. | |
Tory rule from Westminster any time and any day. | :57:10. | :57:17. | |
Canadian federal politicians warned it does not make sense to vote. | :57:17. | :57:21. | |
you bought for your government, and to elect a government, with a close | :57:21. | :57:27. | |
margin, it is not the end of the world because four years later, you | :57:27. | :57:35. | |
will water again. If you destroy the country, it is for yourself and | :57:35. | :57:41. | |
the next generation. Does my Quebec experience give us a taste of what | :57:41. | :57:47. | |
is to come and lessons for nationalists and Unionists parties? | :57:47. | :57:52. | |
When the welfare state is reduced, when social programmes are under | :57:52. | :57:58. | |
threat, as we saw in Canada, that can offer opportunities for those | :57:58. | :58:04. | |
campaigning for constitutional change to make the independence | :58:04. | :58:07. | |
project seem attractive. Potentially, the most difficult | :58:07. | :58:17. | |
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After the referendum, the federal government adopted a lot | :58:23. | :58:30. | |
recognising Quebec as a distinct society. -- a law. A new generation | :58:30. | :58:38. | |
of Quebecois have a strong sense of identity. I feel more Quebecois | :58:38. | :58:48. | |
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than comedian. -- Canadian. But I am still from Canada. My country | :58:50. | :59:00. | |
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for me is not cannot up but Quebec. -- not Canada. A do-nothing | :59:04. | :59:11. | |
independence will change anything. But for Canadians, the referendum | :59:11. | :59:21. | |
had a lasting impact. No one wants it to lose the third referendum ll. | :59:21. | :59:31. | |
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I think we will win the third one. Politics it may still divide them, | :59:34. | :59:44. | |
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We are now joined live from Ottawa by the political correspondent for | :59:49. | :59:57. | |
the Vancouver Sun, Peter O'Neil. What in Canada did you find was the | :59:57. | :00:02. | |
impact of what was perceived to be an imposed austerity programme on | :00:02. | :00:08. | |
the independence debate? It was interesting. My first day in Quebec | :00:08. | :00:18. | |
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when I was covering the referendum, I arrived at their Quebecois bus. | :00:22. | :00:32. | |
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There was austerity, but not exactly a feast. -- exactly Greece. | :00:33. | :00:39. | |
The bus was covered in multi- coloured signs. There was a huge | :00:39. | :00:49. | |
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contrast to the rest of the debate. They were saying we can escape this | :00:51. | :00:59. | |
austerity, which was not exactly honest but effective. He is the | :00:59. | :01:03. | |
lesson that the campaign, its tone and message, is critically | :01:03. | :01:12. | |
important? It is critically important if you are unprepared and | :01:12. | :01:16. | |
underestimate your opposition. That is what the federalist forces were | :01:16. | :01:26. | |
guilty of. They were not united and assumed they would lose. They made | :01:26. | :01:30. | |
some huge mistakes in terms of exaggerating the dangers. The went | :01:30. | :01:40. | |
too far with that. Campaigns matter. But I have to say that I cannot | :01:40. | :01:47. | |
imagine Alex Salmond could replicate the leadership of their | :01:47. | :01:52. | |
Quebecois. It was a Christ-like resurrection that galvanised of the | :01:52. | :02:02. | |
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population. What are the key messages if you look at the | :02:03. | :02:08. | |
Canadian experience for both sides embers? The key message for the | :02:08. | :02:16. | |
unionists would be clarity. They have to spell out exactly what this | :02:16. | :02:22. | |
means, especially the negatives of it. But it would be dangerous to | :02:22. | :02:32. | |
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frighten people. It went on in Canada. In Quebec, are a very | :02:32. | :02:41. | |
respected finance minister gave a speech and said that one-third of | :02:41. | :02:46. | |
people in Quebec would lose their jobs. People assumed he was | :02:46. | :02:55. | |
exaggerating and everything he said then was have ridiculed. They have | :02:55. | :03:01. | |
to be a sober and United. On the SNP side, you are dealing with a | :03:01. | :03:07. | |
sensible people, it is not as emotional as in Quebec. They have | :03:07. | :03:16. | |
to be statesmanlike, project an idea of strong administration. | :03:16. | :03:23. | |
Scotland tomorrow, we are expecting it and an announcement -- expecting | :03:23. | :03:28. | |
an announcement on minimum pricing for alcohol. In Canada, you have | :03:28. | :03:38. | |
had this for years, does it work? For the last four years, I have | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
just come back from Paris, I used to come over to the United Kingdom | :03:42. | :03:47. | |
and I have to say that you really do have a problem in the United | :03:47. | :03:52. | |
Kingdom in terms of social drinking and binge drinking. This is one | :03:52. | :04:00. | |
component of it. We saw with smoking, when the government raised | :04:00. | :04:05. | |
the taxes on smoking, people stopped. We are used to this in | :04:05. | :04:10. | |
Canada. If you have a social drinking problem, and you can go to | :04:10. | :04:17. | |
the liquor store and get cheap wine, that will get it worse. Thank you | :04:17. | :04:27. | |
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for joining us this morning. And now here's the lunchtime news with | :04:27. | :04:32. | |
Andrew Kerr. Good afternoon. The former Sheffield United chief | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
executive Charles Green has agreed a deal to buy Rangers. It was | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
announced at the club's training base at Murray Park. Mr Green wants | :04:38. | :04:40. | |
to form a Company Voluntary Arrangement and he's backed with | :04:40. | :04:47. | |
finance from Singapore businessmen. More helicopter flights have been | :04:47. | :04:51. | |
grounded after a helicopter ditched in the North Sea. The Super Puma | :04:51. | :04:58. | |
came down last Thursday. An interim report discovered a crack in the | :04:58. | :05:03. | |
main gearbox was to blame. The operators had already suspended | :05:03. | :05:12. | |
flights of the same type of aircraft. | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
Two men have died after an incident involving a microlight plane on a | :05:15. | :05:18. | |
mountain range in Crianlarich. It is understood the plane went down | :05:18. | :05:27. | |
near the summit of Ben More in Good afternoon. Some very wet and | :05:27. | :05:32. | |
windy weather coming our way. Difficult driving conditions as | :05:32. | :05:39. | |
well. That rain is already affecting much of western Scotland. | :05:39. | :05:45. | |
Heavy in the north-west, Argyll, extending eastwards. Temperatures | :05:45. | :05:54. | |
up to 12 or 13 Celsius at best. But feeling colder him that wind. Our | :05:54. | :06:04. | |
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Winston Churchill called it the worst journey in the world, the | :06:08. | :06:13. | |
North Atlantic convoys would to a vital supplies to Soviet allies in | :06:13. | :06:16. | |
the Second World War. The men is shared out of Scottish Power was to | :06:16. | :06:21. | |
face you bought and air attacks on freezing says. More than 3000 men | :06:22. | :06:28. | |
were killed. The survivors have been denied the official mark of | :06:28. | :06:32. | |
recognition and respect, and dedicated campaign medal. The | :06:32. | :06:39. | |
Scottish government is among those who feel this is unacceptable. In | :06:39. | :06:44. | |
the studio with me is Keith Brown MSP, the Veterans Minister. | :06:44. | :06:49. | |
What are you saying to the government about this? The summer | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
months ago, I wrote to the Government asking them to proceed | :06:52. | :06:58. | |
as quickly as possible with this. These young men had a very | :06:58. | :07:03. | |
dangerous mission. By and large, they were not trained in military | :07:03. | :07:11. | |
warfare. The under to go the most dangerous of missions. Had they not | :07:11. | :07:16. | |
done so, it could have changed the whole outcome of the war. For | :07:16. | :07:20. | |
Winston Churchill to recognise their value, rethink that the | :07:20. | :07:25. | |
current Tory government should be recognising them as well. | :07:25. | :07:29. | |
offence of it was the comment from one of the defence ministers that | :07:29. | :07:39. | |
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they could have the Atlantic Star? That was offensive to the veterans. | :07:39. | :07:49. | |
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You cannot compare these extremely brave... He subsequently apologised. | :07:54. | :08:03. | |
They are extremely a brave people and there are very few of them left. | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
Sometime a goal in Edinburgh, there was a medals ceremony by the | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
Russian government for these men. A lot of them were very young men at | :08:12. | :08:19. | |
the time, even ones at the boats were going out, they still kept | :08:19. | :08:25. | |
going. They knew what they were sailing into. The Germans very | :08:25. | :08:31. | |
quickly twigged to what was going on. They made it a very hazardous | :08:31. | :08:40. | |
trip. These men were essentially civilians, not trained to do this. | :08:40. | :08:44. | |
But be made sure that supplies got through to Murmansk and Archangel, | :08:45. | :08:51. | |
it was extremely important. We will give you more news on that campaign. | :08:51. | :08:54. |