30/09/2012 Sunday Politics South

Fit is a scheme to allow everyone access to their entire coastline.

But gossip landowners say their concerns were ignored when the

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Good morning. It is the star of up half that will help you what

although we around the UK coastline that outdoor set landowners are

seen their concerns were ignored when the first section of the

scheme was set up. More on that shortly. First that is read the two

politicians who are with us for the next 20 minutes. We have a Labour

MP and a Conservative MP. News this week that we are going to provide

even more school places in Hampshire. 1000 extra. 10 million

was spent in Winchester. Building schools for the future. Would that

have provided these places? We lost four or five new school programmes

in Southampton. What has come in its place is a shadow of that. What

we are doing in terms of capacity for the future is adding extra

schools in a haphazard way rather than really going ahead with

refurbishing and developing our schools as a whole. It started in

the Midlands and the North. They have got new schools up there.

was started a spark a comprehensive programme to revamp schools across

the country and build new schools were they were needed. That was a

programme that had the rug pulled out from under it. What has been

put in its place is a few threads of what that were consistent off.

That was the problem. It was a rather elaborate and expensive

rack? It was never a large factor in my constituency. �10.4 million

has been pledged by Hampshire County Council for this new scheme.

But just a few threads compared to what should have been happening?

is not. We needed that extra expansion on the existing schools.

It is good news. But it is still not enough. The primary school

shortage across the south is huge. We also need a new free school.

us what some of these things work out. For the youngsters it is

merely that time have you were your stories about schools banning

playing with conkers on health and safety grounds. That old chestnut!

It is part of a culture that sees the world was full of danger,

especially for children. A new survey by the National Trust

suggests that too many parents are denying their kids and adventurers

shouted. I spoke to Alex Hunt from the National Trust. We have become

increasingly concerned that children are not getting access to

nature. Figures we have seen suggests that children are spending

90 % of their time indoors. The amount of space that children

Romain is getting smaller. It is in decline by 90 % in a generation.

Children not getting the benefits of nature. They do not seem to

getting it. We thought we should do some research. We asked what

experts. We asked members of the public. We asked her parents. We

talk to children. What are the reasons? The reasons for not going

outdoors - there are a range of reasons. There are issues around

parental angst. It is difficult to be a parent these days. There is a

fear of traffic. There is a fear of access to space. So strangers in

parks? That seems to loom large in people's minds. Things like access

to safe green space came out clearly. There was all kind of

anxiety. What should we do about it? This week we had a large sum at

with a wide range of experts and organisations. We think there are

things we can do a round different parts of the daily lives. There is

something around health and safety and risk that we need to do

something about. We need to focus on access to quality green space.

People have told us, and this is the positive but, that we cannot do

this alone. We have now got 50 organisations that want to start to

work with us to identify some solutions. Great to hear you

raising it. Why the National Trust? Surely you have to look up after a

buildings not the nation's health? The countryside and the course runs

through our veins. We were founded as an organisation which was about

access to space. It is an important thing. It is that problem of trying

to fill up children's time every minute. You have got young children.

You do not want to leave them unsupervised. For you cannot. If

you have got young children who have been up since 5 o'clock in the

morning by 9 o'clock in the morning you are climbing the walls, let

alone them. You have to let it out to let off steam. Do you let them

out to the pack? They are too young. When they are older. Would you

still worry about them at nine or 10? I would. I was talking to a

friend who was a builder. He was talking about pots. Pons is a

growing business. That sounds that. Especially since a lot of people do

not have gardens. The National Trust's report underlines the fact

that the right to roam for children is effectively one way or another

gong. -- gone. Unless we get to grips with that, maybe it is

bounded access to open space, we really will end up with a

generation of children whose boundaries at a computer game.

Without a big garden there is very little you can do. I asked my

nephew was he looking forward to his summer holidays. He was going

to play his PlayStation. He was not going to go camping. The mindset

has changed. Bringing up young kids I am aware that while they laugh

television, they have some television but not too much.

reality is that children are going to be bound it. The risks are not

quite what people think they are there. There will be concern about

unfettered roaming. We need to bring in accommodation --

combination of supervision and better roaming facilities.

Labour conference is under way in Manchester. I caught up with the

party leader Ed Miliband before he set off. The South of England has

high cost of loving, crowded roads, many problems. If he were Prime

Minister what difference would you make? That is the theme of our

conference. How we will rebuild the economy. In terms of prices, energy

bills. How we can get jobs in our economy. Would our young people

back to work in particular. The rising number of young people out

of work for a long time is a huge concern. Also meet the bank's work

for small businesses. Those themes about how we get our economy

working speak directly to people right across the region. The number

of young to put out of work has been rising for some time, party

because of the minimum wage which was a Labour initiative. A I do not

win the minimum wage. I blame the economy that has not been growing.

The tragedy of this us that we have young people not just out of work

for six months or nine months, but two years or three years. We are

seeing that the government could put people back to work. Even in

opposition we will work with our local councils and others to say

how can you make a difference right here and right out to young people.

Even at a time of cutbacks his government is investing �1 billion

in the use contract. 500,000 opportunities. That is the policy.

But it is not working. It is not working because they are not do

what we would do which is guarantee our young people a job if they had

been out of work for more than one year. Private sector, but if

necessary public sector. You're going to spend even more? Wheelspin

that money better. It is a waste. It is a waste in terms of the way

they are spending the money. We have said we would levy a tax on

bankers bonuses. There is enough of that round. We would use that money

to put young people back to work. It makes no sense for our economy

to leave young people out of work. No sense for them. Well said for

the country. In the south of England for private sector jobs are

being created - Das that place need fuel to keep the golden goose liver

and the X? I welcome the fact that the private sector is delivering

jobs were effort has to have been dropped. But economic reality for

most people does not feel like a job which economy at the moment. It

feels like a struggling economy. Struggling in terms of living

standards, employment, small businesses struggling to keep the

head above water. I think we can change those things and that is

what the corporate has sought out. What do you think? As the economy

picking up? Yes. The Governor of the Bank of England beat some

encouraging signs that other day. The media have a big role to play

any be talking more positively about things. Ed Miliband big

problem is that there is a huge credibility gap for the Labour

Party. They enjoy the luxury of opposition. It is more than two

years since the next election. -- until the next elections. But their

policy is still more debt, financed by Ed Balls. At of us into this

mess in the first buys. What you say to that? It is rather rich

saying that the Labour party is interested in borrowing when

actually as a result of the economy flat lining for the last two years

we are going to be pouring 150 million more than we thought were

going to all. The present Government is borrowing a large

about the money with no result. That is the difference as to what

we do his talking about this weekend and what we have seen so

far as the flat by the economy goes. There may well be a little bit of a

pick-up but we have lost over two years in the process we we could

have been getting the economy back to work, getting the trots back,

get in the taxes and, and making sure that the borrowing was law. We

are in the worst of all rot at the moment. The Labour position is due

for even more. Chocolate giving of people a future. Saddling them with

more debt is not answer. Let us talk about creating jobs. Adviser

to the company in Winchester last week were running a work programme.

The work programme is making a positive difference in my

constituency. People are being sent there from the JobCentre of they

have been unemployed for more than six the organisation only get paid

if you going to a job for six months or more. By that is not a

guarantee. He is also saying he will find us by an ethical tax on

backers bonuses. I sit there in the House of Commons every week and if

you how many times the Labour Party has said this. It is laughable. It

would be funny if it was not so serious. You cannot use spending

the money over and over again. people going to trust Labour?

far as some people are concerned unless we have at their end of that

period the training, and I have visited an organisation in

Southampton recently, and the fact is that after the training there

are not a jot there. Hopefully there will be some more jobs. The

economy we will be picking up. -- the economy may well be picking up.

But at less young people have some hope at the end of a process in the

been no outcome from this problem we have. Long-term unemployment for

young people. Earlier in the summer the first stretch of what will be a

coastal path stretching around the UK was opened in Dorset. Cause for

universal rejoicing you might think. One of the glories of our

countryside is now Mort accessible. That that old tension between

landowners and ramblers has not gone away.

Dorsets course is surely one of the most beautiful bits of coastline

anywhere in the country. The starting but -- the starting point

of an ambitious scheme to create up half around the English coast. This

is the first stretch of the new coastal path to the crater that

opened. Running from Portland and along the coast. Although some

landowners have objected to new path has been welcomed by

countryside campaigners. It is a magnificent section of the England

coast. It is an extension of what we had already. There has been some

improvements made to their alignment of the past. This coastal

path as close to the sea. We have better views. We have better access.

People can sit and have a picnic and look at the beautiful view.

the country London Business Association say landowners are

having their views ignored. There is supposed to be a fear violence

between the interests of the landowner and the interests of the

public in having access. When that has not happened and you have

landowners subsidising public access. We have got access causing

problems to businesses that should be taken account of. The normal way

that has taken account will is by compensation but that is not

happening here. There has to be extra-special care to take account

of that landowners interest. This is for the first new the open

stretch of the past ends -- of the path. The main lesson is that some

landowners provide good access. There is little point and nothing

to be gained by trampling roughshod will those landowners and ignoring

their concerns and carry on as if that is never existed. They cannot

have their cake and eat it. If they want us to manage it and maintain

it but would have been fine, but they clearly do not. The what you

did it on themselves. In my view the are ignoring their

responsibilities. A scheme is being managed by natural England. Are the

riding roughshod over landowners? We are not standing on people's

doors in terms of what they do as a landowner or an occupier of the

land. Will not spreading room increase the tension between this

walkers and the landowners. Some would say it is greedy. You have

got your patch. By Jules think it is greedy. People on naturally via

a little bit from the path in any case. They will look at things.

There are lots of path that are not actually the right of way because

that is for people walk. I do not think it is greedy. It gives people

a chance to get to the coast. having spreading room increase the

tension between the walkers and landowners? There will always be a

tension. We to take that into account. We need to be pragmatic.

At the same time we have got to uphold the legal duty. There have

been tensions between landowners and those who want greater access

to the countryside for hundreds of years. There is no sign that these

tensions will ease as the rest of the path is rolled out.

Is this going to get better or worse this disagreement? I think

there will be disagreements, but the marine and coastal Access bill

had as its bottom line coastal access all around England and Wales.

Wales have sorted that out. There were provisions in the act for

proper negotiation and discussion but the bottom line is also access.

Providing you do not take over the land and providing there is a

reasonable amount of spread of going into the estate that should

not be difficult to achieve. The core issue has committed to this.

We said to be deliberate and we are. We said we would deliver it and we

are. There has to be a sensible balance. We are doing it. Let us

see how it goes. Then maybe review it down the line. It is a good

thing. It isn't Ireland. We should be able to walk round it. Now a

regular round-up of the political news.

Putting the brakes on - Liberal Democrat in Brighton started their

conference week 14 for more speed limits even if there is no money

for enforcement. Morse speed limits are self-

reinforcing. It was full steam ahead for our new supermarket at

Bracknell. The heating comes from woodchip burners. Environment

Minister that the technology. better to import sustainable wood

chip from not America or Norway and to bring at sustainable polluting

goal -- bring unsustainable fuel in. The minister for pensions laid a

wreath. The formal naval base at is being

brought into service. In rural housing meet the need for

affordable homes has again been highlighted. We now need another

100,000. We talked about overloaded roads

and overloaded schools. More houses? Does Manchester need more

houses. -- as Winchester need more houses? We need new houses. We need

new houses across the country and across the south. As ever it is a

matter of proportion. It is the right house in the right place for

the right people. One council is building new council homes for the

first time in 25 years. That is very welcome. Things have changed

in the planning world. Things have changed but locals and still rules.

The city council still has to make its local plan. The city council

has made his choice. It has made provision for 4,000 houses. There

is no doubt that the government will see more houses built.

raise your eyebrows at woodchip being imported from abroad. Good or

bad? A very good thing for heating and electricity providing it is

sustainable. The importing well from Louisiana did we not ever be