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What did the Olympians do for us was to mark with Reprise hordes of | :01:37. | :01:42. | |
tourists to reprise the races they came flocking to one global telly | :01:42. | :01:52. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2217 seconds | :01:52. | :38:50. | |
my name's Peter Henley. On today's show: did the Olympics really send | :38:50. | :38:55. | |
hordes of tourists flocking to all the places showcased last year? Just | :38:55. | :39:03. | |
how much has Weymouth benefited from its Olympic legacy? Paul Harvey is a | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
Deputy Leader of the Labour Party on Basingstoke and Dean Borough Council | :39:07. | :39:13. | |
and we're joined by the Liberal Democrat MP for Eastleigh. Offered a | :39:13. | :39:19. | |
pay rise from 2015. Are you going to take it? Of course we will take the | :39:19. | :39:25. | |
pay rise. It is an independent body. But it is not appropriate. It is not | :39:25. | :39:31. | |
the right time to do it. People are getting 1% pay rises on very small | :39:31. | :39:36. | |
salaries of a couple of pounds a week, I can only do what I did with | :39:36. | :39:46. | |
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my Borough Council allowance, anything over 1% I will pay to the | :39:47. | :39:52. | |
mayor's charities until things get back to normal and pay is decided in | :39:52. | :39:59. | |
the proper way. But, you have taken the decision. You have handed the | :39:59. | :40:03. | |
stern independent, and now you have decided to hand it over to charity. | :40:03. | :40:08. | |
Once it has been paid to me, it is my money to do with what I like. If | :40:08. | :40:11. | |
someone pays me a salary and I decide to give it to charity, that | :40:11. | :40:19. | |
is up to me. I am not sober warning the standards authority, I'm not | :40:19. | :40:24. | |
saying don't want MPs to make the decisions but I feel that it is | :40:24. | :40:29. | |
wrong for me to be better off by more than 1%, when people are | :40:29. | :40:35. | |
getting �3, �4 a week, as a pay rise. Either that or you change the | :40:35. | :40:43. | |
whole system again. You are one of the newest elected MPs, so we cannot | :40:43. | :40:51. | |
hold you responsible for this, but it is a mess, isn't it? This | :40:51. | :40:57. | |
independent body coming back with an 11% pay rise when so many people are | :40:57. | :41:00. | |
getting pay cuts. The think they knew that it would come back with a | :41:00. | :41:05. | |
pay rise? The relative is it has come back with an 11% pay rise, and | :41:05. | :41:10. | |
that is wrong. MPs get a good salary anyway compared to many people and | :41:10. | :41:14. | |
why should they get 11% over and above what other people are | :41:14. | :41:19. | |
getting, pay cuts, 1%, 2%, at the very most. It undermines confidence | :41:19. | :41:25. | |
and politicians to do the job they want them to do. I can understand | :41:25. | :41:30. | |
what Mike has done and good for him to doing it, but the question is, | :41:30. | :41:33. | |
should the independent body have come back with 11% in the first | :41:33. | :41:42. | |
place? "It's in the national interest" - how often do we hear | :41:42. | :41:45. | |
those buzzwords these days? But is the fact that something's a national | :41:45. | :41:48. | |
priority enough to make it the trump card that beats everything else? | :41:48. | :41:54. | |
This land is your land... There are plenty of schemes that the | :41:54. | :41:59. | |
Government says are in the national interest, that locals say are not in | :41:59. | :42:07. | |
their interest. Whether it's HS2 cutting a swathe through | :42:07. | :42:09. | |
Buckinghamshire and Oxfordshire to allegedly boost the economy by | :42:10. | :42:12. | |
speeding journey times to the north, the possibility of fracking to | :42:12. | :42:15. | |
extract shale gas around Balcombe in Sussex and maybe bring down the | :42:15. | :42:19. | |
price of gas and help keep the lights on, or the rush towards | :42:19. | :42:21. | |
renewable energy with what would be the country's largest offshore wind | :42:21. | :42:25. | |
farm at Navitus Bay in Dorset. And the history of these sorts of | :42:25. | :42:27. | |
schemes doesn't suggest that local David often wins against government | :42:27. | :42:30. | |
Goliath. The Newbury Bypass and the M3 extension through Twyford down | :42:30. | :42:40. | |
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both had vocal opponents but they got built anyway. Joining me now | :42:42. | :42:45. | |
from our London studio is Tom Brenan from the Environmental Law | :42:45. | :42:52. | |
Foundation. Is it the case, as is suggested by the Government in | :42:52. | :42:56. | |
wanting these changes that local protest groups were holding things | :42:56. | :43:02. | |
up and always getting their way? That is probably questionable. The | :43:02. | :43:05. | |
evidence put forward in consultations did not act out what | :43:05. | :43:12. | |
they were saying, but at the same time, the Government are making | :43:12. | :43:20. | |
various moves towards saying that they are improving... Snails on the | :43:20. | :43:25. | |
Newbury bypass, archaeological digs, things that stop developments, that | :43:25. | :43:30. | |
were sneered at. Local campaign groups do have powers, are you | :43:30. | :43:36. | |
saying, or have they been taken away? There are a number of | :43:36. | :43:41. | |
different systems in operation depending on the project. HS2 will | :43:41. | :43:46. | |
go through under one system. There are national infrastructure projects | :43:46. | :43:51. | |
which is a new system and there was the bigger planning projects which | :43:51. | :43:56. | |
go under another system so one of the challenges for communities is to | :43:56. | :44:02. | |
find out which process is the one that applies, and then to find out | :44:02. | :44:05. | |
the methods and the ways in which they can participate in that | :44:05. | :44:12. | |
process. Looking at things like the Newbury bypass and Twyford down, | :44:12. | :44:16. | |
those things happened anyway, and some would say, why bother | :44:16. | :44:23. | |
protesting? It depends what sort of longer term view you can take on it. | :44:23. | :44:27. | |
With regard to Twyford down and Newbury bypass, that led to the | :44:27. | :44:30. | |
Government shelving its road-building programme for a number | :44:30. | :44:37. | |
of years. And the point is, it is more about the quality of the | :44:37. | :44:42. | |
decision-making process and the fact that people have a democratic right | :44:42. | :44:46. | |
to participate and should exercise those rights. I was looking at the | :44:46. | :44:51. | |
now that this babe proposals. They reckon it is going to be four | :44:51. | :44:55. | |
years, not 15 months, because of the consultation that they are being | :44:55. | :45:03. | |
asked to do. Is that good quality consultation, or is it time wasting? | :45:03. | :45:07. | |
The length of time is not necessarily significant at what is | :45:07. | :45:09. | |
important is the quality of consultation. Communities do not | :45:09. | :45:14. | |
like being told just what is going to happen, and that it is just a box | :45:14. | :45:20. | |
ticking exercise. That increasingly seems to be the direction of travel, | :45:20. | :45:26. | |
to a certain extent. So it is just form filling. From the other point | :45:26. | :45:33. | |
of view, how can the larger organisations make genuine | :45:33. | :45:43. | |
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consultations? With regard to the infrastructure projects, the wind | :45:43. | :45:50. | |
farm who have mentioned is one of those, there is much more emphasis | :45:50. | :45:56. | |
on pre-application consultation, so they are trying to get more | :45:56. | :45:59. | |
involvement and the developer has an obligation to consult and has to | :45:59. | :46:07. | |
present the results of that as part of his application. So, is it worth | :46:07. | :46:17. | |
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protesting, or, should we be pushing things through more quickly? I think | :46:17. | :46:23. | |
these are both true. Thomas Wright, if you need to protest in a | :46:23. | :46:27. | |
democracy, there will be some point when you do not succeed in that | :46:27. | :46:30. | |
particular instance that will have a knock-on effect and make politicians | :46:30. | :46:35. | |
think more seriously about the next project. That is what happened at | :46:35. | :46:40. | |
Newbury, as Tom said. But, what worries people is when the | :46:40. | :46:44. | |
consultation process goes on too long, it puts people and a sort of | :46:44. | :46:49. | |
never-never world, is it going through my back garden or isn't it? | :46:49. | :46:54. | |
Should I try and look for an alternative to wear I am going to | :46:54. | :46:59. | |
work and move to that part of the country? That completely can freeze | :46:59. | :47:04. | |
up all areas where decisions take too long to make. It does not mean | :47:04. | :47:10. | |
you should destroy the consultation but there must be a more efficient | :47:10. | :47:16. | |
way to consult with people, I would have thought. What about the idea | :47:16. | :47:20. | |
that the community should get some benefit, which is happening possibly | :47:20. | :47:27. | |
with fracking, 1% of the profits? Some developments play an important | :47:27. | :47:32. | |
role in delivering that. The current government line is a presumption in | :47:32. | :47:35. | |
favour of development, and you would lose those benefits in the rush to | :47:35. | :47:40. | |
get the development. Do people know what is going on locally, and have | :47:40. | :47:45. | |
they been told why the big government agencies, by the energy | :47:45. | :47:49. | |
companies, do they know what is going on? And do they get the chance | :47:49. | :47:53. | |
to influence the decision? You can have consultation but unless you can | :47:53. | :48:00. | |
influence the decision that has been taking it becomes very difficult. | :48:00. | :48:03. | |
Probably campaigning on a single issue and even if it does work for | :48:03. | :48:07. | |
the future, you do not care so much about that. This 1% for the | :48:07. | :48:10. | |
community from fracking, some people would say that that is just like | :48:11. | :48:14. | |
money and it will make people fight harder against it. -- that is just | :48:14. | :48:23. | |
blood money. Fracking is clearly very controversial and topical at | :48:23. | :48:28. | |
the moment. What we are seeing now is evidence of where communities in | :48:28. | :48:35. | |
the US have effectively developed their own community Ordinance, did | :48:35. | :48:37. | |
prevent fracking in their community, and in fact in Scotland, in | :48:37. | :48:43. | |
Falkirk, acumen at the council has introduced a community charter along | :48:43. | :48:50. | |
the same lines, so there are methods that communities are exploring, in | :48:50. | :48:56. | |
addition to those consultation processes. The fightback starts | :48:56. | :49:06. | |
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here. Thank you for joining us, Tom. This time last year the Olympic | :49:06. | :49:10. | |
Torch was wending its way through the region - one of the things we | :49:10. | :49:13. | |
were promised then was that all the hoopla and more importantly the | :49:13. | :49:15. | |
international coverage would showcase the glorious tourist | :49:15. | :49:17. | |
opportunities of the places it went through and bring foreign travellers | :49:17. | :49:21. | |
here in droves. But as Paul Greer now reports from the Olympic sailing | :49:21. | :49:24. | |
venue of Weymouth, which got showcased a lot more than most, the | :49:24. | :49:33. | |
legacy might not be quite what was hoped for. Look, we all know what | :49:33. | :49:40. | |
the Romans gave us. Good roads, good government, underfloor heating, and | :49:40. | :49:48. | |
even tasty dormice. But what did the Olympians ever give Weymouth? | :49:48. | :49:58. | |
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Weymouth got a relief road, sailing legacies of the Olympics or things | :50:05. | :50:10. | |
that Weymouth was long overdue to get anyway? Andy Matthews has spent | :50:10. | :50:13. | |
years working with community groups in Portland. He is not fond of the | :50:13. | :50:21. | |
word, legacy. It is an easy way to use, but at the heart of it they did | :50:21. | :50:23. | |
not involve the community in what the community wanted to see as a | :50:23. | :50:31. | |
legacy. The road was on the cards, with the Olympics coming they could | :50:31. | :50:35. | |
have made it that bit quicker in terms of securing it, and Portland | :50:35. | :50:38. | |
Harbour is a fantastic place for sailing. The Olympics coming there | :50:38. | :50:42. | |
might have stood the process, but that would inevitably, something | :50:42. | :50:47. | |
would have happened anyway. Andy is not alone in thinking that staging | :50:47. | :50:51. | |
the Olympics last year has done little to lift the profile or the | :50:51. | :50:57. | |
fortunes of Weymouth. It is the weather that has brought people in. | :50:57. | :51:02. | |
It is not the legacy of the Olympics. It did not bring anything | :51:02. | :51:07. | |
in. It is literally because of the weather. That is what has brought | :51:07. | :51:13. | |
people down. It might have been built four years ago but many would | :51:13. | :51:18. | |
insist that the National sailing Academy are still the love child of | :51:18. | :51:22. | |
last year's Olympics. The sailing Academy was here before the | :51:22. | :51:28. | |
Olympics, but our facilities have been enhanced by the games. We have | :51:28. | :51:32. | |
got lots of youngsters on the water doing sailing and stand-up handle | :51:32. | :51:35. | |
boarding and all sorts of activities. We have got a fantastic | :51:35. | :51:45. | |
legacy. One year on from all of the fuss, security and hullabaloo, the | :51:45. | :51:49. | |
sun is out, the beaches are crowded and the traffic is flowing. What do | :51:49. | :51:55. | |
the politicians think? In the 60s people said what we need is a relief | :51:55. | :52:01. | |
road. That is a legacy, isn't it? Of course it is. You have got dark and | :52:01. | :52:05. | |
right, and buses into town, and lots of evidence on the seafront, lots of | :52:05. | :52:09. | |
money going in here there and everywhere, and I think it is a | :52:09. | :52:15. | |
tremendous legacy, actually. academies, roads and towers are in | :52:15. | :52:18. | |
the bag, but those who know a thing or two about the holiday season | :52:18. | :52:23. | |
believe that we still have to wait to see if there are benefits to | :52:23. | :52:28. | |
claim. If the sun is shining in Weymouth, the people will come. It | :52:28. | :52:35. | |
is all about that sunshine. They come here for our lovely seaside | :52:35. | :52:45. | |
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town. Joining us now is Mark Smith who's the director of tourism in | :52:49. | :52:57. | |
Bournemouth. What is most important? The flaming Olympic torch, or the | :52:57. | :53:02. | |
flaming golden ball in the sky? We want to see both. That is my take on | :53:02. | :53:06. | |
it. But, however, how long do we have to wait to see the full | :53:06. | :53:10. | |
benefits of the Olympics? For people coming from abroad, the reputation | :53:10. | :53:17. | |
takes time to sink in. Locally we can see improvements because of the | :53:17. | :53:22. | |
new roads, the Academy, things that have happened on the ground, but the | :53:22. | :53:29. | |
impact from overseas visitors is already happen thing. -- happening. | :53:29. | :53:37. | |
We have one of the guest centres for International education outside of | :53:37. | :53:42. | |
London, and we have seen student numbers grow by 5% over the past | :53:42. | :53:47. | |
year, which is important, because that business is worth �200 million | :53:47. | :53:53. | |
a year to this conurbation, and that growth is larger because of the | :53:53. | :53:58. | |
heightened profile and the extended interest in Britain, and we got | :53:58. | :54:00. | |
showcased last year in a way that we could never have imagined, | :54:00. | :54:06. | |
worldwide, and the impact was tremendous. Britain now has a | :54:06. | :54:13. | |
slightly different image in the world? And Basingstoke we have seen | :54:13. | :54:17. | |
sporting activity decreased. We have not seen a boost because of the | :54:17. | :54:21. | |
Olympics. We have seen it the crease. The issue is the fees and | :54:21. | :54:26. | |
charges that people are asked to pay to access sports facilities. It is a | :54:26. | :54:32. | |
big issue. We can talk about legacy, but access, and having the | :54:32. | :54:35. | |
community feel part of having something to do with the Olympic | :54:35. | :54:41. | |
legacy, these are important areas. You would agree, Mike, initially it | :54:41. | :54:51. | |
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shot up. Jess, sports clubs have had 168% of their membership target. | :54:57. | :55:00. | |
Park sport, not directly to do with the Olympics, it started to get | :55:00. | :55:05. | |
children involved in the school holidays, but since the Olympics, | :55:05. | :55:10. | |
the number of children attending has shot up. We have had free swimming, | :55:11. | :55:16. | |
9000 children applied for it. I am a tennis player, and I find it | :55:17. | :55:22. | |
difficult to book a tennis court. That is before Wimbledon. What about | :55:22. | :55:28. | |
on the tourist side? Is your boat with the sun with the Olympics that | :55:28. | :55:34. | |
have been bringing people to the region? I think the sun helps but | :55:34. | :55:37. | |
people do not come to England from abroad expecting the sun to shine. | :55:37. | :55:41. | |
They are not going to book a holiday last November in America because | :55:41. | :55:47. | |
they expect the sun to shine in England. Locally, people might go | :55:47. | :55:50. | |
down to Bournemouth, and Weymouth, and very lucky they are to be able | :55:50. | :55:55. | |
to go there, it is a beautiful part of the world, locally, because of | :55:55. | :55:58. | |
the sunshine, last minute, but you're not going to book a holiday | :55:58. | :56:05. | |
from Japan or Germany or China because of that. We have so many | :56:05. | :56:09. | |
positive attractions in all that area that you bring people to bring | :56:09. | :56:13. | |
and visit numerous places. But these were the London Olympics. When | :56:13. | :56:18. | |
people head for London? People will always head for the capital but | :56:18. | :56:24. | |
there are other people who want to go out and explore other things. | :56:24. | :56:30. | |
What changed with the Olympics was not just the facilities and the | :56:30. | :56:34. | |
harder side of the capital investment, last year, we saw for | :56:34. | :56:37. | |
the first time this idea that Britain is not just all about stiff | :56:37. | :56:43. | |
upper lip. The idea of the games makers was tremendous and started to | :56:43. | :56:46. | |
show a different side of Wigan, which is valuable for stop that | :56:46. | :56:50. | |
makes people think, you can go and see the heritage but you can go and | :56:50. | :56:55. | |
be looked after well and have fun. That has made a big difference. | :56:55. | :57:05. | |
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you look at Southampton court, they expect 48 cruise ships. They spend | :57:06. | :57:12. | |
�2.5 million per cruise. And every year, that is going up. The | :57:12. | :57:17. | |
coordination with Southampton airport is vital. It is now has a | :57:17. | :57:20. | |
welcoming system for cruise passengers. It says that you have | :57:20. | :57:24. | |
got to wait six hours for your flight home, and arrange for them to | :57:24. | :57:27. | |
go to Winchester, which is outside my constituency, but it is | :57:27. | :57:34. | |
fantastic. Coming back to the big society idea. We are all smiling | :57:34. | :57:37. | |
because of the Olympics, still, even though some facilities are | :57:37. | :57:44. | |
suffering. There was the quality of tourism we have on offer, you go | :57:44. | :57:48. | |
back to the opening ceremony, the reaction to it, it was brilliant and | :57:48. | :57:53. | |
amazing, something we can all be proud of. The legacy of that has so | :57:53. | :57:58. | |
many different parts to it. Unless you see local authorities taking | :57:58. | :58:02. | |
advantage of that, and doing the best they can for their communities, | :58:02. | :58:08. | |
then the legacy will fade away quicker. There was a lot of interest | :58:08. | :58:14. | |
in the Olympics and sport, 2.5 times the number of people interested in | :58:14. | :58:17. | |
doing sporting activities and it is a case of making it available to | :58:17. | :58:24. | |
them. Now, our regular round-up of the political week in the South in | :58:24. | :58:34. | |
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training could be improved in Oxfordshire. The county is one of a | :58:37. | :58:45. | |
few not to fully adopt the bikeability scheme. Oxford City | :58:45. | :58:49. | |
Council is considering offering loans of up to �75,000 to new | :58:49. | :58:54. | |
applicants for head teacher jobs. 4000 new homes are planned in | :58:54. | :58:57. | |
Aldershot on the site of the old Cambridge military hospital. Many of | :58:58. | :59:03. | |
the historic buildings will be preserved. Police officers from five | :59:03. | :59:06. | |
forces in the South are off to Northern Ireland for the marching | :59:06. | :59:11. | |
season. That is despite fears from the police Federation that it could | :59:11. | :59:20. | |
leave a hole back home. We -- who is going to conduct the normal policing | :59:20. | :59:23. | |
on our streets and fill the gaps left behind? The competition | :59:23. | :59:29. | |
commission is put on merger of Bournemouth and Poole Hospital is on | :59:29. | :59:32. | |
hold, amid fears that patients will have less choice about where to go | :59:32. | :59:40. | |
for major operations. I wonder if choice is what we are looking for. | :59:40. | :59:43. | |
The GP gives you the choice of different places and you think, I | :59:43. | :59:47. | |
don't know. And the Cambridge military, people really respected | :59:47. | :59:52. | |
that. It was an excellent hospital with excellent provision and | :59:52. | :59:56. | |
excellence and quality is what it means to be about. This idea of | :59:56. | :00:00. | |
choice in the NHS is dangerous. You want to know there is going to be | :00:00. | :00:08. | |
called it. -- quality. The Conservative government, in | :00:08. | :00:13. | |
privatising so much of the NHS, allowing hospitals to deliver half | :00:13. | :00:17. | |
of all their care privately, that door was opened by Discover, so | :00:17. | :00:21. | |
we're going to some dramatic changes and cuts. In Hampshire, we are | :00:21. | :00:26. | |
seeing �100 million of cuts in the social care budget, which is going | :00:26. | :00:30. | |
to mean a big change for the quality of care that people face. Choice in | :00:30. | :00:36. | |
that way is destructive. People want efficiency and to make sure that | :00:36. | :00:41. | |
money is well spent. I don't think you can make a party political point | :00:42. | :00:50. | |
of this at all. The most important thing is, people want health care | :00:50. | :00:56. | |
free at the point of delivery, and, if you're going to have private | :00:56. | :01:00. | |
health care looking after you, you want to know that they have been | :01:00. | :01:02. | |
chosen for the quality of their work, not the price. This is | :01:03. | :01:07. | |
something that the Lib Dem 's insisted was put in. The | :01:07. | :01:16. | |
Conservatives were not going to do that. I knew that if we started | :01:16. | :01:19. | |
talking about the NHS we would be here a little while, but it is | :01:19. | :01:27. |