02/01/2014 The Papers

We will have the latest from Sydney, where they could be three debutants

in the side. Welcome to a look ahead at what the

papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me as Sam Coates, Deputy

political editor at the Times and Robert Fox, the defence editor at

the London Evening Standard. The Express has more on the severe

weather expected over the weekend. The Financial Times reflects on

poorer festive sales, calling it a Christmas sea of red.

The Daily Telegraph says government cuts to the Environment Agency could

leave homes exposed to flooding. The Independent reports on many

university vice chancellors receiving 8% pay rises despite

lecturers receiving just 1%. Margaret Thatcher secretly preparing

to deploy the army and declare a state of emergency in response to

the miners strike. Cameras at bus lanes and boxed ulcers are -- box

junction are costing hundreds of thousands of pounds for commuters.

A third of doctors believe that charging ?10 per visit would cut the

number of urgent cases. -- nonurgent.

Would that stop people turning up when we have got an interim toenail?

This seems like an idea that we have put on the back of a prescription

pad when they were getting together at the GP conference. I do not mean

to sound so facetious, but I have not seen the story in that. How on

earth are they going to do this? The GPs say that they are worried that

routine referrals, we know that they are being used for non- emergency

treatment and consultation. That is where you have to start. Physician,

heal thyself. It is the problem of the GP system. I do not think a

charge would change that at all. But there is the idea that someone books

and appointment, there would be a rest -- retrospective charge. The

great problem with the NHS system at the moment is because it is free at

point of use, how do you make sure that people go to the right point of

entry? There are trying to make you stop getting appointments. People

have been drifting to a and E surgeries. Particularly at weekends.

Particularly at weekends. A lot of people rock up a drunk on a Saturday

night. It is a problem that Jeremy Hunt has actively tried to deal

with. A lot of areas have out of hours services contracted to private

suppliers. They have an operator who will refer you to a doctor who will

call you back. It makes sense if you have a child, to take them to the

local hospital. One of the other suggestions as if you are quite hard

up you might be put off going to the hospital at all. It is quite likely.

As Sam was saying, it is the referral system that is at the heart

of this. It is so conflict and difficult. But he did not need to be

referred. The ID would be to put people off from going because there

is a charge. It is such a meshed problem. So many ways of how people

engage with the NHS at the moment. Let us look at the Daily Telegraph.

Delays may scupper the EU bill. This is the Conservative party bill. It

is being put through as a private members bill that the Conservatives

hope would make sure it never wins the general election, there would be

a referendum on how we are part of the EU in the future. We are

starting the conversation that is going to be happening all year.

David Cameron and the Tories ahead of the European elections in May. It

is a private members bill that would commit a referendum on our

membership in 2017. Some people are saying that this is not going to

become law. That is a problem with David Cameron. A lot of his own

backbenchers said that he might duck out after the next election. The

fact that it could collapse is causing yet another problem for him

in times of party discipline. What if he just said, I tried? He is in a

hard place. Europe is a hot button issue and it has been for a long

time. One of the criteria when you are looking at a prospective

candidate is where you stand on Europe. The workers in the

constituencies are really worried about the UKIP factor. This is not

my area, but it does seem to me that where they are manoeuvring in

relation to UKIP is terribly important. It is going to be long

and strung out. Eventually there are going to come up hard in Europe

itself. There are problems. Isn't there anything the whips can do? The

Conservative party apparatus, to get it through? This is about the number

of amendments that can be put down. There simply is not enough time. It

is not going to happen. Is this going to be indicative of the kind

of you that David Cameron is going to face? I am afraid so. It is

something that David Cameron has tried to park. But so many do not

trust him. They are going to keep picking away. And there is the fear

that UKIP is going to slice out of its in every constituency, thereby

handing a lot of seats to labour, people are wondering if they have to

do more. Let us move on and talk about your article in the Times. It

is not surprise. Voters trust that society is collapsing. You have

spoken to reform the Liberal Democrat leader. He thinks that our

trust in our key institutions is crumbling into dust. He is saying

that people are unhappy with politics, that is well-known. But

what they have seen over the past few years is a collapse in the

reputation of these of society that people have become dependent on. He

names bankers, journalist, the NHS, the BBC. Some of the quotes he uses

are quite fruity stuff. The BBC cannot manage its own affairs. The

NHS is failing rate down to the level of doctors. It is pretty

difficult stuff. He says he is quite surprised there has not been more

public protest on the streets. I am not predicting more common but I

would not be surprised if people came out because they did not feel

that the democratic process has satisfied to their demands. His

argument goes on that if there is a collapse in our trust of these

institutions, the temptation for some people is to look for simple

answer is in places that mainstream politics would find distasteful, the

far right, maybe. It is quite an established theme. But he seems to

have switched over to the save wavelength of the author of the

revelations of St John the Divine. He sees things in apocalyptic terms.

It is a very strange statement for a Liberal Democrat strategist to be

making at this time. It is a extreme. The language, I mean. He is

a former leader, a member of the House of Lords. He does not need to

face an electorate in 2015. He thinks he can say stuff that Nick

Clegg cannot. He says this in a blender reform. But this man thinks

he can see it in a more robust way. But some people think he has gone

over the top. Take away the colourful language, has he got

point? He has got half a point. People are worried. But what you do

not do is fanned the flames. I have shared conferences with him. He

always goes on about the need for world governments. He is going to be

part of the planet that we do not normally inhabit in political

discussion. The rate of it is unfortunate. That is why he get

invited. Something you should watch, he looks at simplistic answers. The

very interesting that he links UKIP and the conservative movement in

France. Let us move on and look at the Daily Mail. It is on the front

page. On Page two, sorry, page eight, the education secretary

writing about how he feels that the left wing myths are undermining what

the First World War was really about. Whether it should have been

fought and what it achieved. Blasting Blackadder which many

people enjoyed. Essentially being a coward that that the whole thing was

a shambles. I'd though it does not bring his belt, that story, but we

are going to get a lot of it this year. -- when -- ring his bell. The

battle lines are being drawn. You are getting a group of right-wing

and conservative historians saying the poets that are core to the

curricula of ceremony of our schools are wrong. They were defeatists.

Michael Gove is lumping them together. The sense of futility that

you get from these people, it really informed things. It was an extremely

carefully thought out comedy that had a profound message. It is like a

schoolboy writing a sixth form SA. It is the conservative historians

against the historians. He calls out several historians he lacks. --

likes. He picks up one of my favourites, Margaret Miller, who has

written one of the outstanding books on the outbreak of the war. She has

been speaking at literary conferences. She says it was an

unnecessary war. Why could they not have stopped it? It is being

recruited for politics and a sad way. There is a lot of context that

is fascinating. I am fascinated by the politics of it as well. Michael

Gove is good at tickling the Tory party base. This goes well, attacks

on the left wing. Attacks on historians and features. --

teachers. A lot of Tory activists love this stuff. It is not

surprising. It will go down well with sections of the Tory party. It

is something he feels passionate about. Some feel find it distasteful

that it is being politicised in this way. One of the interesting things

is the impact on relationships with Germany. We have got quite a pointed

attack. That is all we have time for. You are warming to your theme.

It is about military. Of course it can talk for hours. Another time.

The papers for this evening. Sam Coates, Robert Fox, thank you very

much. Stay with us on BBC News. More severe weather on the way. Coming up

next, Sportsday. Hello and welcome to Sportsday, I'm Lizzie

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