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Welcome back. A look at the papers. With me is the former Pensions | :00:07. | :00:21. | |
Minister and from the Evening Standard. Only one story. The | :00:22. | :00:28. | |
Westminster story. A picture of the police surrounding the attacker. The | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
headline on your screen. The Daily Express uses a similar photo. It | :00:35. | :00:39. | |
covers the MP who tried to save the life of police officer Keith Palmer. | :00:40. | :00:45. | |
MP Tobias Ellwood shown helping paramedics. The time is also uses | :00:46. | :00:53. | |
its front page to show a picture of the attack. Here is The Daily | :00:54. | :00:59. | |
Telegraph, opening with Theresa May's message saying that terror is | :01:00. | :01:07. | |
doomed to fail. And The Daily Mirror showing an attack on democracy. | :01:08. | :01:12. | |
Paramedics taking away the attacker on a stretcher. And the Daily Mail | :01:13. | :01:19. | |
has another picture of the attacker. A close-up. Just one more, the i. | :01:20. | :01:29. | |
Conservative MP Tobias Ellwood trying to save Keith Palmer in the | :01:30. | :01:35. | |
aftermath of the attack. Let us begin. Just before we start with the | :01:36. | :01:41. | |
Guardian, we will look at a picture of the day, everyone trying to save | :01:42. | :01:48. | |
poor old Keith Palmer, 48 years old, 15 years of service, a father and | :01:49. | :01:52. | |
husband. What did you hear in your office? Did you know the enormity of | :01:53. | :01:57. | |
what was happening? Not at the time did I realise. I just heard | :01:58. | :02:03. | |
unbelievable commotion and shouting. Now, with hindsight, obviously, the | :02:04. | :02:14. | |
shots and the sirens and helicopters. It was almost instant. | :02:15. | :02:18. | |
It sounded like a demonstration. I have never heard such commotion. Our | :02:19. | :02:28. | |
hearts go out to Palmer's family. These are brave policemen who put | :02:29. | :02:34. | |
their lives on the line to save us. You don't expect these things do | :02:35. | :02:38. | |
happen but when they do, it hits home. It is something else to run | :02:39. | :02:42. | |
towards danger when everyone else goes away from it. Absolutely. And | :02:43. | :02:48. | |
the courage they showed just to keep our society going. Of course, the | :02:49. | :02:53. | |
whole thing does raise questions about security. Shouldn't all | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
policemen at Westminster be armed, because he was not armed. And also | :02:59. | :03:05. | |
security. You are talking specifically about policemen around | :03:06. | :03:09. | |
Westminster, the complex of Westminster. They should always | :03:10. | :03:15. | |
preserve the society we have. But whether we should have better | :03:16. | :03:20. | |
security at Westminster, whether certain areas of Westminster should | :03:21. | :03:24. | |
not be open to the public... I mean, we must look at it. But we must | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
carry on the way we do, of course. With Buckingham Palace and ten | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
Downing St, this is it. It is the heart of our government and the | :03:35. | :03:39. | |
heart of the seat of power, really. What is worrying about this is that | :03:40. | :03:43. | |
this terrorist was armed with a knife which looks like a kitchen | :03:44. | :03:51. | |
knife. A pen knife, almost. And he drove a 4X4. No, it was a big | :03:52. | :03:59. | |
hunting knife. We will look for a picture. This man was running at a | :04:00. | :04:04. | |
man who was crazed and running at him. And he had no defence in that | :04:05. | :04:09. | |
sense. Yet he did not flinch. He went forward to do his job, knowing, | :04:10. | :04:13. | |
probably, that he was certainly putting his life at risk. Our | :04:14. | :04:19. | |
policeman really do guard our Parliament and there are policemen | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
all the time around that area, but not all are armed. It look so this | :04:24. | :04:28. | |
was a weak spot in security. Security around all of the areas of | :04:29. | :04:32. | |
Parliament and Downing Street has been hugely tightened. We should | :04:33. | :04:36. | |
always look at the way, and this happened in Nice and Berlin, how | :04:37. | :04:43. | |
terrorists are using cars. Correct. The way they are using... We think | :04:44. | :05:09. | |
of terror as highly specialised. You know, bombs being made and that sort | :05:10. | :05:12. | |
of thing, and we direct our surveillance to that. It was a | :05:13. | :05:15. | |
Hyundai... How many people have those. They say they know what | :05:16. | :05:18. | |
inspired him. You would imagine someone claims responsibility. It is | :05:19. | :05:28. | |
a year to the day that the attack happened in Brussels. The 22nd of | :05:29. | :05:38. | |
March. The Monis Brown Ideye in -- modus operandi in Nice was clear. We | :05:39. | :05:41. | |
should look at pedestrians, should they get as close to Parliament? | :05:42. | :05:49. | |
Those sorts of things will have a proper further review of security. I | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
just feel so terrible for people who have lost their lives, their | :05:55. | :05:59. | |
families and friends, and who are seriously ill. And the visitors on | :06:00. | :06:03. | |
Westminster Bridge who have just walked... I mean, any of us could | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
have been there. Absolutely. Let us look at the Express. Can you see the | :06:09. | :06:14. | |
red ring there? That is the knife. You can see it is almost twice the | :06:15. | :06:21. | |
size of that policemen's boot. It is a substantial weapon. If they know | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
the identity of this man, obviously it will raise questions about | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
whether they missed something. And at what point do you arrest someone? | :06:29. | :06:34. | |
You cannot watch everyone all the time. You absolutely cannot. That is | :06:35. | :06:40. | |
where there is the bravery of our security forces to put themselves on | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
the line, because you know that you cannot save everybody, and they are | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
there waiting to protect people. But as we have seen today, sadly, there | :06:48. | :06:55. | |
are some times you cannot protect without shutting down lives. This is | :06:56. | :07:01. | |
not going to change our way of life. We will never give in to terror. All | :07:02. | :07:06. | |
three of us go to Westminster quite regularly. Presumably we have walked | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
over Westminster Bridge to the Palace of Westminster. Should there | :07:11. | :07:19. | |
be bollards across? Do you just have to accept there is a risk? We need | :07:20. | :07:26. | |
to look at the safety of pedestrians in that area. I will be there | :07:27. | :07:30. | |
tomorrow and I will go over that bridge and I will go through there. | :07:31. | :07:34. | |
We must not let this damage our way of life. But if there are | :07:35. | :07:40. | |
adjustments we can make they will obviously... I think we can minor | :07:41. | :07:42. | |
adjustments which safeguard... We need to make it more difficult for | :07:43. | :07:49. | |
somebody minded to do this to just walk in. At the same time, if we | :07:50. | :07:54. | |
make it completely a fortress, then in a way we have destroyed the | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
idea... Parliament is a place where we should all be able to go. You can | :08:00. | :08:09. | |
do different things. I was that Birmingham Town Hall recently and it | :08:10. | :08:12. | |
has bollards that go up and down. You don't need to obstruct it all | :08:13. | :08:16. | |
the time. You can see still see a wonderful view of Parliament from | :08:17. | :08:20. | |
the other side of the road, not necessarily from the pavement | :08:21. | :08:23. | |
immediately next to Parliament. To stock the car, they would need | :08:24. | :08:29. | |
bollards across Westminster Bridge, which would be an intrusion of the | :08:30. | :08:36. | |
way we live. -- stop. In my opinion. It looks like he was trying to enter | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
the other Muntari estate through the side railings where there are the | :08:41. | :08:45. | |
big black bollards on the street. The railings were too strong for | :08:46. | :08:49. | |
him. Then he ran around because the pavement is right next to | :08:50. | :08:52. | |
Parliament, and get in. But obviously they practise for this an | :08:53. | :08:59. | |
awful lot. You would always hope they never need to use it. But on | :09:00. | :09:06. | |
the weekend. And if you look at the building of Parliament, there is a | :09:07. | :09:10. | |
concrete wall that is huge to stop the public, because they queue up. | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
It was really a weak point on the corner to let it in. A weak point | :09:15. | :09:27. | |
there, because at many times of the day that gate is open because cars | :09:28. | :09:32. | |
have to go in and out. If you allow pedestrians on that side of the | :09:33. | :09:35. | |
road, in theory, like happens today, they would be able to get through, | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
even if they have to wait until the car gets out. Policemen are waiting | :09:40. | :09:42. | |
there, they blew the whistle, and they stop pedestrians coming across | :09:43. | :09:45. | |
the driveway when cars are coming out. But if we have no pedestrians | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
on that particular side of the pavement, then there would not | :09:50. | :09:52. | |
necessarily have been any pedestrians in the way of the car | :09:53. | :09:56. | |
going across, and there would not have been any way in which he could | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
have just run around and gone in that way. But police will be looking | :10:01. | :10:04. | |
at that. We will learn from it. You cannot have 100% security. There | :10:05. | :10:11. | |
will always be someone willing to exploit exploits. At least it was a | :10:12. | :10:24. | |
lone attacker, not a group of people like has happened before. We need to | :10:25. | :10:28. | |
know more about him and whether he had a motivation and whether there | :10:29. | :10:31. | |
is a backup team somewhere. We will find out. We salute the | :10:32. | :10:34. | |
extraordinary bravery of Keith Palmer, but also the selflessness of | :10:35. | :10:42. | |
Conservatives MP Tobias Ellwood. And he lost his brother in the Bali | :10:43. | :10:48. | |
Bombing. It is a former soldier, he would be used to this. All the | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
others were ushering him back and he said "no." He is, apparently | :10:54. | :10:59. | |
according to the reports in the i, he was trying to give life-support, | :11:00. | :11:09. | |
mouth-to-mouth, to PC Palmer. You can see a picture on the back of the | :11:10. | :11:17. | |
i. We heard of MPs being ushered back into Portcullis House, and he | :11:18. | :11:23. | |
went through them, and someone said it looked like was on mission. | :11:24. | :11:26. | |
Having lost a brother to terrorism and having been in the forces, this | :11:27. | :11:32. | |
is something he had seen, and I guess he felt, you know, all credit | :11:33. | :11:38. | |
to him in a way, responsibility. I saw an interview of someone, an MP | :11:39. | :11:47. | |
in the Parliament lockdown, and he said it is less than a year since | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
poor old Jo Cox was murdered, and it is on the back of MPs' minds. We | :11:53. | :12:05. | |
have to have an open mind. There are precautions we can take, but we have | :12:06. | :12:11. | |
to have extra security. Douglas, to a certain extent. If you like the | :12:12. | :12:19. | |
value of what MPs do, well, it has gone down a bit. If you want to | :12:20. | :12:27. | |
encourage the feeling, and I think with Jo Cox and other people, steps | :12:28. | :12:35. | |
need to be taken. When MPs are doing their surgery. We will have to | :12:36. | :12:40. | |
change at some point. But on the other hand, they will not win. We | :12:41. | :12:46. | |
are just going to have another quick look at the Guardian. Because you | :12:47. | :12:53. | |
can see Tobias Ellwood there in the midst of it all with everyone else. | :12:54. | :12:59. | |
Paramedics around as well. He is in the midst of that trying as best as | :13:00. | :13:03. | |
he can. Tonight as he reflects on that, I am sure his family are proud | :13:04. | :13:07. | |
of him, but he might be shocked. It is shocking for everyone. He is | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
sitting there being locked down, not knowing what is going on. It is | :13:12. | :13:15. | |
clear the police and security forces knew exactly what they were doing in | :13:16. | :13:19. | |
their strategy of making sure that anyone who was moving was someone | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
who would not be supposed to be moving. They were worried there was | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
a second attacker around Parliament by the Times, the front page, you | :13:29. | :13:32. | |
can see what we were just talking about. The weak point in the | :13:33. | :13:35. | |
perimeter at if you will. The gates. It goes into New Palace Yard and it | :13:36. | :13:51. | |
is difficult to prevent pedestrians from being in this area. You can see | :13:52. | :13:58. | |
in the top right there, this is the point. Police. Pedestrians either | :13:59. | :14:02. | |
side there as members of Parliament come in or out in their car. It is a | :14:03. | :14:07. | |
car entrance so pedestrians are not the focus. Exactly. A pedestrian | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
could run through, as happened today. It is possible, we were | :14:13. | :14:19. | |
looking at the map of where he crashed into the railings opposite | :14:20. | :14:22. | |
portcullis house, around the corner, it is possible they reacted to that, | :14:23. | :14:27. | |
as you would. And they were somewhat distracted as he ran around the | :14:28. | :14:32. | |
corner. Which is why we need to find out if that was the plan, he had | :14:33. | :14:36. | |
planned to cause a distraction for those and then get into Parliament | :14:37. | :14:44. | |
in that weak spot. The carriage gates are left slightly ajar because | :14:45. | :14:51. | |
they are allowing cars in and out. A car does not fill up the entire | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
space when the gates open, a person could run in an hour but then there | :14:56. | :14:59. | |
is a policeman they're supposed to stop them. What you also see in that | :15:00. | :15:04. | |
picture are number of armed officers, I can see maybe for all | :15:05. | :15:09. | |
five of them there. The guys in the yellow jacket, they are an unarmed | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
which underlines what you are saying earlier for you and these security | :15:14. | :15:19. | |
men arrived quite quickly. The noise that went on the helicopters, there | :15:20. | :15:21. | |
were sirens there were people running. It was a | :15:22. | :15:21. | |
rapid response. Normally our police are an unarmed | :15:22. | :15:36. | |
and that is something that should not change. But in this sort of | :15:37. | :15:40. | |
situation, at Westminster maybe we should think of that. They will be | :15:41. | :15:45. | |
looking into that. There is no doubt that the government will react | :15:46. | :15:48. | |
quickly, that Parliament will react quickly. Theresa May said tonight | :15:49. | :15:54. | |
that Parliament is ingrained with the freedom spirit. And one thing a | :15:55. | :15:58. | |
hessian social media over the last few hours is this picture. We are | :15:59. | :16:04. | |
not afraid. It underlines what we have both been saying that we cannot | :16:05. | :16:12. | |
be cowled by this sort of thing. Again, on the front of the metro | :16:13. | :16:16. | |
there. The knife by the boot. This echoes what was said when Parliament | :16:17. | :16:22. | |
was bombed during the war. Churchill said we would rebuild Parliament | :16:23. | :16:27. | |
exactly as it stood. Just to emphasise that things will not | :16:28. | :16:32. | |
change. We are not afraid. Can we put the other side to this, 40 | :16:33. | :16:42. | |
people have now been injured and as we said, stopping cars is very | :16:43. | :16:52. | |
difficult. People will all be standing firm and etc but people | :16:53. | :16:57. | |
will be unnerved. In the grand scheme of things we live in a | :16:58. | :17:00. | |
dangerous world and we know that there are bad people out there but | :17:01. | :17:05. | |
we must not let it change our way of life. And we have got fantastic | :17:06. | :17:10. | |
security forces. Fantastic belief forces. They will learn and they | :17:11. | :17:16. | |
will adjust and they are doing their utmost to keep the public safe. | :17:17. | :17:21. | |
There will always be accidents that happen in a different way people 's | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
lives are sometimes at risk. But if you let that put you off your daily | :17:27. | :17:31. | |
life, if you let that stop you from doing what we want to do which is to | :17:32. | :17:36. | |
enjoy our freedom. We have eight free society which... Which comes | :17:37. | :17:44. | |
with certain risks. It does have certain risks and we must make sure | :17:45. | :17:47. | |
that we protect ourselves as best we can. The front of the Mirror has not | :17:48. | :17:53. | |
hidden the identity of the attacker, possibly the best image of him | :17:54. | :17:59. | |
moments before he died. Some people commenting that he is Asian, that | :18:00. | :18:05. | |
does not seem so to me, we will leave that up in the air. It is | :18:06. | :18:10. | |
difficult to see from this angle. He has a beard. We should not judge his | :18:11. | :18:19. | |
ethnicity. In fact, that is a very good point. In the attack in Nice, | :18:20. | :18:25. | |
it is one thing to be inspired by Islamic State and another thing to | :18:26. | :18:31. | |
be associated. Many people have mental problems, alcoholism, | :18:32. | :18:35. | |
depression, whatever, whose find inspiration from these groups but | :18:36. | :18:39. | |
are not in direct contact. This again raises the question that we | :18:40. | :18:46. | |
still have to look at our society as this person is someone from our | :18:47. | :18:50. | |
society and as why he wants to do this. That battle to make sure that | :18:51. | :18:55. | |
the younger generation is not influenced by this. We must keep | :18:56. | :18:58. | |
doing that. They must share our belief. Increasingly, the focus here | :18:59. | :19:06. | |
is an petty criminals were going into prison and being radicalised. | :19:07. | :19:14. | |
Social media as well. Many people are being converted in prison to | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
Islam. There are many things going on in prison that we don't know | :19:19. | :19:22. | |
enough about. I think that is why we are looking to build new prisons. We | :19:23. | :19:25. | |
know that the overcrowding in prisons can bring certain | :19:26. | :19:31. | |
unfortunate relationships and radicalisation is more likely in far | :19:32. | :19:38. | |
more overcrowded conditions. I love this picture at the top of the | :19:39. | :19:45. | |
mirror. The sunset over Parliament. A beautiful sky. The Parliamentary | :19:46. | :19:53. | |
building is wonderful. Not broken. 13 terror attacks in four yes. We | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
have had, what, three now that have been successful? The ratio, when you | :19:59. | :20:04. | |
compare it to European countries, is astonishingly good. Yes. Far better | :20:05. | :20:09. | |
than France. This is the worst since 2005. Fill in that sense we must not | :20:10. | :20:17. | |
be complacent. But we need to give credit to our security service. | :20:18. | :20:22. | |
There will be focus again on this attackers associate, whether | :20:23. | :20:29. | |
opportunities were missed. Security services working day and night on | :20:30. | :20:33. | |
this and there is so much happening that we are not told about that we | :20:34. | :20:37. | |
may not know about. One policeman described it tonight as having | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
certain people who will drift into the upper echelon who must be | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
watched 24 hours and then some will drop down list of priority and they | :20:47. | :20:53. | |
had and flows and it may be that he was someone that they were watching | :20:54. | :20:56. | |
who disappeared off the radar and suddenly re-emerged. There is no | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
accounting for that. And surveillance must have limits on our | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
society. We would not want to become a police state. There needs to be a | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
balance. This is what the French Tom Lee, they have a list as long as | :21:12. | :21:15. | |
your arm. If you were to staff offices around the clock on each one | :21:16. | :21:20. | |
of them, you would need an army. Let's have a look at the Telegraph. | :21:21. | :21:25. | |
They carry a quote from the Prime Minister "We will never allow evil | :21:26. | :21:32. | |
to drive us apart. You both pick out this part which... The weak spot, | :21:33. | :21:37. | |
the Telegraph makes mention of it. A very good report about the carriage | :21:38. | :21:42. | |
Gates. It mentions the fact that the gate, known as the carriage Gates, | :21:43. | :21:47. | |
is always manned by two police officers who normally leave it | :21:48. | :21:50. | |
slightly ajar because it is so frequently used. Again, I am sure, | :21:51. | :21:55. | |
there will be a long investigation on what happened and measures may be | :21:56. | :21:59. | |
taken and maybe that is the weak spot that this terrorist knew about. | :22:00. | :22:06. | |
This is what it could be. But, as the Prime Minister said, you know, | :22:07. | :22:12. | |
we are going to be defiant. I will be at work tomorrow. We will all be | :22:13. | :22:16. | |
that there tomorrow to show that this does not the rail, in any way | :22:17. | :22:21. | |
at all, our democracy, the worker Parliament does on behalf of the | :22:22. | :22:26. | |
people of this country and the work that all of the security forces and | :22:27. | :22:30. | |
policeman do. But we will be starting with prayer, I believe, for | :22:31. | :22:35. | |
all of the victims and for their families. It has been very good | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
having your company here this evening. Before we say goodbye, | :22:40. | :22:43. | |
let's just have a look at of Westminster this evening. There it | :22:44. | :22:47. | |
is. A splendid scene in Westminster on such a sad day but, our ministers | :22:48. | :22:54. | |
will be there in their offices tomorrow. They all have great | :22:55. | :22:59. | |
stamina and we will be reporting from Westminster tomorrow as well. | :23:00. | :23:06. | |
More to come on this story no doubt. Coming up next we have the weather | :23:07. | :23:08. | |
for the week | :23:09. | :23:12. |