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It's a day of reflection and mourning -

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how should the UK now respond to yesterday's terror attack

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And we'll hear from Scotland's oldest student as he prepares

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Coming up, the king of crime, Chris Brookmyre, will talk to us

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And we'll be speaking to the human swan planning a flight

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across the Hebrides for the Wildfowl Wetlands Trust.

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But first, vigils have been held tonight for the victims

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of what was the most deadly act of terrorism on UK soil

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As the streets around Westminster reopened today,

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Parliamentarians from across the UK have been echoing the sentiments

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that there's more that unites us than divides us.

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Lots of people have been commenting on social media,

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often using the hashtag "we stand together".

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Let's take a look at some contributions made. We start with

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the Scottish Parliament. They have been tweeting with pictures of flags

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flying at half-mast today. That is the one I'm looking for. Scottish

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parliament, with flags at half-mast as a mark of respect for events at

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Westminster, and people offering thoughts on what happened.

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Lots of images being shared too, this one from Melissa Webb saying:

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What unites human beings is huge and wonderful.

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While Tower Hill Tube station tube station sent this picture

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The flower that blooms in adversity is the rarest

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Earlier I spoke to Stuart McDonald, the MP for Cumbernauld and member of

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the Home Affairs Select Committee, who was trapped in Parliament

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He told me how it was to return to work today.

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It was not easy. It's not easy for parliamentarians staff and London as

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a whole. There was a unanimous feeling in the chamber yesterday

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that the best way to show people who engage in violence and terrorism

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that they will never win and it will not work is to make sure violent

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action does not work. We now know the attacker was

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British-born unknown to security services.

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From we understand from the Prime Minister's statement, there was an

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historic interest that the security services... They had never been

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concerned he was an imminent threat. The security services can't forever

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follow the actions of every person that comes to their attention, and

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they have to make risk assessments. They can't be impossibly invasive

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and unrealistic. Why do we seem unable to prevent the

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radicalisation of our own citizens? We are not absolutely unable, and

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there are programmes in place which to a lot of good work. We try to

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make sure that does not happen. One thing used to try to stop

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radicalisation is the Preventive strategy which you have previously

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expressed concerns about. What are your concerns?

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We had a debate about Prevent in Westminster Hall, with different

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side of the political divide expressing concerns about the

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strategy. There is a fine line to be drawn. The difficulty in a lot of

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MPs cab is it has not properly engaged with communities and in some

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cases it has actively antagonised communities. We express concerns

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that the programme has to be looked at carefully and probably

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thoroughly... Not just MPs calling for that but the Government's own

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review of terrorism legislation, David Anderson had concerns. A

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different approach in Scotland. There has to be a look at what works

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best and see if we can learn lessons from how it operates not just in

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different parts of the UK but abroad as well.

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Thank you for joining us on Timeline.

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You don't meet many people with seven university degrees -

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87-year-old Alex Stewart from Dundee is now looking into

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What's more, he gained all of his degrees after his retirement.

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We spoke to him as he considered the prospectus

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I would like you to explain some of the modules in the second year of

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the degree in criminology, please. Yes.

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Studying at the University was a challenge like no other. I have

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seven university degrees. The degree that I have enjoyed most is my

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degree in philosophy. That is because the basis of philosophy is

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to question everything that you have been told. It has been a real slog

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and I have had to work hard. Preparation for essays, tapping away

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on the computer until 1am in the morning. Where I have found it

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getting harder, and I'll be honest, is in the written exams. At the end

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of term, that is. Because your memory comes into effect, you see?

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It was another world, because I was mixing with people a fraction of my

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age, and the lecturers did not spare any anything that the other boys and

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girls didn't have to do. I think it is remarkable and I don't

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know if I could see myself doing that at that age, but good on him

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for doing that. I think it's interesting to have

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someone with two or three generations ahead of you, and their

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perspective will totally be different from the way you think.

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I look upon it as a challenge. That is on the basis that if I start to

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feel anything, I'll call it a day. -- if I am failing a class. I'm

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87... Nearly all of our friends have got dementia and everything. For an

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old, old man with no education, I felt it is worth the effort, you

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know? I seem to get quite a few sees and thes, and occasionally a A. I

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have not got A yet in 21 years. Could not figure that out.

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Absolutely amazing. The introduction of Personal

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Independence Payments in 2013 has been a bumpy ride -

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to say the least - for both the Government

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and recipients of the benefit. It's intended to help disabled

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people live more independent lives, through an assessment that works out

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how much they are entitled to get. We've been hearing about

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people left stranded with no benefits at all,

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because of simple Since 2013, Disability

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Living Allowance has been slowly swapping over

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to Personal Independence The Department of Work and Pensions

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has been writing a letter to people when it's time for them

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to make the change. Once that letter arrives, there

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are four weeks to apply for PIP, Citizens Advice Scotland have

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told us that it's often 10 days into the one-month timescale

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before people receive the form, and the three-week waiting list

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for advice means people struggle They're recommending the timeframe

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be extended to two months. With us now - Claire McGuire,

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who had her assessment and Layla Theiner,

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from Disability Agenda Scotland. Clay, first of all, how did the

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assessment gold? It was better than I expected, if

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I'm honest, but not particularly relevant to my condition and my

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disability. There and then, if you have been

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successful in being assessed for the benefit?

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If only it was that straightforward that you would know, it will be

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between two and six weeks. Previously you were receiving

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Disability Living Allowance, so what happened?

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I have always been in receipt of Disability Living Allowance since I

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was 16 and I moved house at the end of last year and missed the letter

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at my old address, and I phoned up and they said, we are sorry, you

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missed the four-week deadline and we are stopping the DLA and there is no

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process to get it reinstated, and that was the end of it.

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What impact that have a new? My DLA has always paid for taxis to

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get me around. That was my mode of transport, and that has left me

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completely without transport, and impacted on my independence. That is

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just one of the things that has occurred since it stopped.

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Let me bring in Layla How typical is her example?

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From what we have heard, pretty typical. Not everybody has moved

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over from the LAT PIP yet, but they aim to do it by the autumn. Although

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a lot of people have not moved over from DLA. But a lot of people have

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told staff they have been facing these problems with the application

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or the assessment process people have to do, which, unlike with DLA

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is face-to-face. Some of the problems Claire has had, they have

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been facing. But might mean they are being asked about physical

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conditions if they have a mental health condition, or physical

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conditions being asked about if they have mental health issues.

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How difficult is the four-week period to apply from one benefit to

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the other? The four-week issue has come up and

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some people have had advice and advocacy so they know they can

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extend that in some instances, that it has been inconsistent for people,

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how much they have been able to know about their own rights. That issue

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has come up for some people, and it is really dependent on what advice

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and support they have had. Whether there has been a massive problem or

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not. Claire, you had your assessment

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today, as we said. What were you ask that you did not think was relevant?

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The majority of the questions were focused on mental health, moods, and

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depression, and things that did not apply to me in anyway.

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Is there a one size fits all question are?

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It seems so. The questions were very much geared towards that aspect of

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health and disability, and that did not seem to fit my disability at

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all. The point that she mentioned, I contacted my MP to get them to take

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this case on, and even with their intervention, I was still told that

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there was no grounds for reinstating the DLA.

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As you would expect, we have spoke to the Department for Work and

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Pensions and again is a statement, saying, the personal independent

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payment process is continuing to work effectively with people waiting

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just six weeks on average for assessment, and under PIP, they say

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27% of people are receiving the highest possible and old, compared

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to 15% under the old Disability Living Allowance. How did you

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persuade them to consider you for the new benefit, one, as you said

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yourself, you did not inform them about your change of address, so the

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letter went to the wrong place? To be honest, I think my MP getting

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involved was the only impact that had, that they consider me for the

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PIP. But I had to wait 12 weeks almost by that, so it was not a

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quick process at all to get the assessment.

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Thank you for coming in and sharing your experiences with us. We

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appreciate that. Now, many of you may

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have been helping raise money for Comic Relief,

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and tomorrow is the big day itself. One school in Aberdeenshire has

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a lot to live up to, as last time around,

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it raised a record amount. Here's their story of this

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year's big dance-athon, as well as a look at

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where the money goes. We are Balmedie. This is for Comic

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Relief. We are Balmedie Primary school and we like raising money for

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comic relief. Modes schools raise up to ?1000. But

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last time we raised ?21,000. That is a lot of money.

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That was more than any other school in Scotland and in the UK.

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Last time we raised a phenomenal amount of money, and we did not

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expect to raise nearly that amount. We have got really supportive

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parents here and the kids got fully on board, which meant we raised so

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much. This year we hope to raise more

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money. This year we are doing dancing, a community cafe, and

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putting teachers in stocks. Everyone was dancing the whole day

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for a time. I enjoyed it a lot but it was sweaty.

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Today we had an assembly for all of the poorer children in other places

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that can't get all the school staff, and it was really good.

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# Sunshine... Moon light... # Here's a charity that we helped

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with her benefits. We do what we do Sorely Circus,

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where the main point is the social benefits that people get and the

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circus is the hook that gets them started. We do it here because I

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suppose we wanted to reach the people who faced the most

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disadvantages. You can imagine that learning to walk on stilts is a huge

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confidence boost and much of what we do is about the social benefits they

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get working with a team, learning to express themselves, becoming more

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confident about their own abilities. It's really good. I get better

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social skills out of it. Without it I can't speak to new people myself

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as it is very hard. I get it speak to new people. I've learned fire and

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juggling from it. In a small town there is not very much, other than

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stay at home, hang out with friends elsewhere but I like it here. It's

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quite fun. You can learn a few new things.

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Well done to them. I hope that they make lots of money.

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We want to bring you up to date on one of the stories

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the case of married couple Robert and Adam, who are being forced

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to live on separate continents after the Home Office denied

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Here's a quick reminder of their interview.

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The explanation was, it was really weird. All the points that they

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brought up seemed like petty, weird, prejudiced type things. Like the

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fact we don't have a child... Obviously, aside from biology

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between the two of us, we could not adopt. Adam has no citizenship not

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being in the UK. Yes but good news, this week, Adam

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and Robert received a letter Obviously Robert and Adam are

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seeking legal advice on the reapplication and which will let you

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reapplication and which will let you know how they get on.

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This week, Adam and Robert received a letter saying that it has been

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decided that on an exceptional basis, their application

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Robert and Adam are now asking for legal advice

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on their reapplication, best of luck to them.

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If you've got a story for Timeline, like Robert and Adam's,

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don't forget to get in touch with us.

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You can email us - [email protected] -

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and you can let us know what you want us to follow up

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And while you're there, take a look at what we're up to online.

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This week, we've just shared a story of a hidden Victorian gem

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in dire need of some TLC - the Springburn Winter Gardens.

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That's on our Twitter timeline, or the BBC Scotland Facebook page.

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It's a busy weekend coming up for Glasgow -

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the BBC 6 Music Festival is bringing lots of huge acts to town,

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while the Comedy Festival has stand-ups doing gigs

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One comedian, Abi Roberts, has a very topical edge to her set -

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it's all about Russia, and her time living in the former

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I spoke to her at the Yesbar Comedy Club in Glasgow.

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I asked her how she got into doing stand-up comedy in Russia.

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I guy came to see me at a comedy club. I mentioned I spoke Russian

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during the set. It turned out that the guy ran a comedy club in Moscow.

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This is very new in Moscow, only one club.

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I went there and did four nights in Russian, some in English. It was

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incredible. I hadn't been back for 18 years to Moscow, where I trained

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as an opera singer. My mother want meet to be an opera singer, that

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comes out in my show. It is called "English Woman" my mother wanted me

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to be an opera singer, my father was a spy, sorry! Diplomat! It was an

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interesting child growing up. He spoke Russian. As soon as I heard

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the Russian language, I was Merwised by the gut alsound.

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Tell me what it was like for you as a woman going on stage in Russia? I

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didn't realise that at the time but now I have done it, I was privileged

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to go over, not only as the first chuck comic but as a woman. I felt

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like a pine year going over. And helping.

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In Russia it was like international relations, going over, telling

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jokes, relaying some of the good stuff about the Russian nature, and

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the Russian culture as well. Is the comedy different there? Did

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you change your routine? Some parts. Obviously they have western

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products, western names. They have Spenks, which is the Russian

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underwear for the larger laid. I was doing a bit about wearing them,

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creating a tsunami of fat, that comes up the body, cars, trees,

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houses. They loved that. It was relatable. And some things that I

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touched on which, if you did it in the UK, nobody would bat an eyelid,

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if you spoke about David Cameron... Doing whatever he was doing, and

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then when I touched on Putin and made a joke about him and possible

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extra curricular activity, there was a kind of... A change of automatic.

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Then a guy at the back said: Be careful, even the windows have ears.

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I looked closely, he had a leather jacket on, not like mine, with a

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bulge visible in his pocket, so I thought, yes... Probably the

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strangest heckle I have ever had. You are here for the festival, I

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wonder if anything, apart from the cold, that Scotland shares with

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Russia? Definitely the sense of how many your. When I was there, you can

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tell the difference between the English audiences - bravo, darling.

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But in Russia, they are likuraway, and slapping their thighs. I

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thought, has the revolution started? And actually, that's what it is like

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when I do shows in Edinburgh and Glasgow! Can I get a thigh slapping

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Can I get a thigh slapping on the show!

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He's one of Scotland's most famous crime writers -

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and having just won huge acclaim for his last novel,

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Chris Brookmyre is here to tell us about his next one,

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due out in a couple of weeks, and it couldn't be more topical.

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And that is because? It is touching on hacking. It was finished about a

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year ago. At the time I thought that with a year having passed, you

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wonder what the subject matter is going to be, if it is relevant at

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the time. It had been inspired by things like Anonymous. And a year

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has pasted and hacking is top of the agenda.

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So all of this was written before accusations that Russia had hacked

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the Democratic Party in America, all of that? Yes. And amazingly, a lot

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of the techniques seem to recurl. There is a part in the book, two

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people attempt to hack something by leaving US B sticks around in an

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office building and remark it is something that people have been told

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not to do. If you find a U is B stick you don't put it in the

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computer. But it turns out that one of the things that the Russians did

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was to flood the local area, the newspaper stalls with cheap US B

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sticks so sell them. So people were buying the US B sticks, thinking it

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is new, it is fine. Are you sure you are not into it?

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But it's amazing how the techniques have not changed. What was

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fascinating that people think that hacking is all about code, it is

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about computer techie stuff but it is all about confidence tricks.

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About getting someone to tell you information they should not or the

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#1r58 of which they don't appreciate.

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Did what you find out frighten you? You did a lot of research into this?

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I grew up with computers, so it is about 20 years since I bought a

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modem and went online and watched the escalation of how much we putm.

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-- online. So I have, because of that, always been squeamish about

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how much I put online. I up am always shocked about how much

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information people share about themselves. That is what makes you

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vulnerable. You have a heist going on as well as a hack. It is how

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about one piece of information gets you to the next level of security

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and so on and so on until you are at the top floor.

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It is great fodder for you but how much is the internet changing crime

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writing? There are new books, Intrusions, Craig Robertson has

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written about it, crime writers are always looking... We are a weather

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vain, anticipating what is the next deception you can get up to using

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new technolgy. In that respect, the internet is a great tool for crime

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writing in a way that mobile phones were a problem. You always had to

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come up with a reason why to the to use a mobile phone so as not to get

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into trouble. Good luck with the book.

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How can schools offer support to young children

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With scientific developments, all sorts of things

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Hazelwood School in Glasgow invited us in to see their new sensory room,

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which helps children make choices about what they can

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Hazelwood School is a school for children, young people were aged

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three to 18, who have akissal support needs.

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Go on... Big step! Hazelwood School is a school that is especially

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designed and has specialist teachers for that provision.

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Caitlin, do you want to use the switch? Good girl! The newest aspect

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of the school is the sensory room. We have spent some years phrasing

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for it. . Caitlin is clearly communicating with us that is her

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choice. If she didn't want the bubbles on, she would push the

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switch away. We have fair range of abilities in the school, so we

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needed an environment that is flexible and adaptable for the needs

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of the children. Good boy! Some of the work that the

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kids can do in here is establishing cause and effect skills... Selecting

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preferences, whether it is colours or lighting in the room... I think

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that just about ever school in Scotland could justify having a

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resource like this. There are pupils in main stream with conditions like

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autism, dyspraxia but they may need a different environment away from

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the main stream classrooms to find an environment where they can get

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Now there are all sorts of ways to raise awareness for your cause,

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but this from the Wildfowl and Wetland Trust takes it

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To raise awareness of the demise of the Berwick swan,

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the biologist Sacha Dench has turned herself into a human swan, by taking

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to the skies in a paramotor - last year she flew over

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the English Channel, and this year she's set

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How did you get into this, Sacha? Well, the paramotor, I started to

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fly in order to get a better view of the wetlands. So from above they

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look absolutely amazing. That is how I got into flying. Then I saw a use

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for that in saving the Berwick swan. You have done amazing travels over

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the English Channel, now to Hebrides, is that next? I am flying

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tip to tip over the Hebrides. They are a special place. I absolutely

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love Scotland but never flown up there, that looks really exciting.

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And briefly, the Berwick swan, why is it in trouble? We have lost about

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half of them in 20 years. It has been shot at, they hit the power

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lines. Climate change is having effect, and in the UK and the west

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of Europe, we are losing the wetlands too fast. All of those

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things. That is why I needed to fly the route.

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Thank you very much. Good luck with that.

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But, before we go, we want to leave you these pictures of how people

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around the UK have responded to yesterday's appalling

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The alternative spirit of 6 Music comes to Glasgow,

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He believes himself to be your equal.

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We would have no quarrel with Aelfric.

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I need 200 Christian men of Bebbanburg.

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In return, I shall require the head...

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