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And welcome to Tuesday in Parliament, our look at the best

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of the day in the Commons and the Lords.

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The Government promises to repair England's broken housing market.

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There are young people right now in every one of our constituencies,

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staring into the windows of estate agents, dreaming of renting or

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buying a decent home. The Lord Speaker says

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the Commons Speaker didn't consult him before talking

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about whether President Trump My view is that I will keep an open

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mind and consider any request for Mr Trump to address parliament if and

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when it is made. And do we need to increase

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the nation's defences They squabble with each other, they

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squawk at all hours of the day and night, creating a nasty racket.

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The Communities Secretary, Sajid Javid, has unveiled

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the Government's new housing strategy for England.

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He said house-building needed to rise to a quarter

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of a million new homes a year, with local councils made to publish

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projections for house building in their areas,

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and developers forced to use-or-lose planning permission once granted.

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There'll also be extra protection for tenants.

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The Minister told MPs the housing market was broken.

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He started his statement to MPs with a jibe at the Speaker's expense.

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I had hoped, Mr Speaker, that this would dominate the headlines this

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morning, but it seems that someone else has beaten me to it. Let me

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just gently say to the Right Honourable gentleman, I did make my

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statement to the house first. He said unaffordable housing

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was one of the UK's biggest But its root cause is simple. For

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far too long, we have not built enough houses. Relative to

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population size, Britain has had western Europe was back lowest rate

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of house building for three decades. He said the planning

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system would become more And we will tackle unnecessary

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delays cost by everything from planning conditions to great crested

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newts. We will be giving developers a lot of help to get building and we

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will give local authorities Beatles to hold developers to account if

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they fail to do so. Local authorities also have a vital role

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to play in getting homes built quickly. I am therefore looking

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again at how they can use compulsory purchase powers.

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He summed up the aims of the Government's

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It will help the tenants up-to-date facing rising rents, and turkeys,

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and in secure tenancies. It will help the home of the right homes

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built in the right places and it will help our children and their

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children Buzz McGeorge and by halting decades of decline and

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fixing our broken housing market. It is able vision and I commend it to

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the house. This is a Government that have pledged to build a million new

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homes by 2020 and yet the total newly built last year is still less

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than 140 3000. While the level of new affordable house building has

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hit 24 year low. And we need all sectors, Private house-builders,

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housing associations, and councils, to be firing on all cylinders to

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build the homes we need. So why will you not drop the deep Tory hostility

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to councils and let them build again to meet the needs of local people?

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It is tragically clear, Mr Speaker, from the statement that seven years

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of failure on housing is set now too stretched to ten. We were promised a

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white paper. We are presented with a white flag. People want to hear the

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truth. They want to hear Government and politicians more generally first

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of all recognise the size of this problem, to recognise that there are

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young people right now in every one of our constituencies staring into

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the windows of estate agents, their faces glued to them, dreaming of

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renting or buying a decent home, but knowing that it is out of reach

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because prices have risen so high. I hope the Secretary of State will

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forgive me but I think that he flatters himself that he thinks that

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on a quiet news day, this would have deserved headlines. This is an

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unambitious and disappointing paper. One thing I want to call out is that

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the paper refers to a family in the market for an affordable home is

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being on an average income of ?80,000 a year. I wonder I can

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respectfully ask what planet he is letting on. Average incomes in my

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constituency are ?26,000 a year. Doesn't that show that what we need

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is a commitment to genuinely affordable homes. The building of a

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million new councils will allow that. I am pleased that the

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Government has finally recognised that the housing market is broken,

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but I disagree with his perception that supply is the only answer to

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this. In Manchester, we have built thousands of new homes. We have

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upgraded all of the council hopes to decent standards. But by far and

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away, the worst quality housing in Manchester is in the Private rented

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sector. It is unfit for human habitation, infested, damp, and

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dirty. And I am worried, is being paid for by the taxpayer through

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housing benefit. So when will the Government intervene in this broken

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market? My Conservative run Forest of Dean council is working hard to

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get its local plan in place, give planning permission to get new homes

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put in place, and it gets frustrated when developers do not build them

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and then the same developer bits in a speculative application and argues

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there is no land supply because they are not building their own houses.

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What more can the Secretary of State do. To make sure that those

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developers build the houses as his excellent housing minister said,

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people can't live on planning permissions, they need houses. This

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Speaker, that is a very important point and he's quite right that many

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local authorities likely get the straight it when they take those

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difficult decisions that they don't see the houses being built. Sajid

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Javid. The Government has made clear

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Parliament will get a say on the final draft Brexit agreement

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before it's voted on by The announcement, by

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the Brexit Minister David Jones, Opposition MPs and some backbench

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Conservatives had wanted the Commons to have the power to send Ministers

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back to the European negotiating table if the final terms

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were not good enough. The change of approach emerged

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as MPs continued the debate on the details of the EU

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Notification of Withdrawal Bill - the legislation that authorises

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Ministers to start the process But the central theme of the case I

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will seek to make this afternoon is that a built in this house must be

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before the deal is concluded. That is the dividing line that makes the

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real difference here. I can confirm that the Government will bring

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forward a motion on the final agreement to be approved by both

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houses of parliament before it's concluded and we expect and intent

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that this will happen before the European Parliament debates and

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votes on the final agreement. Minister, I am very grateful for

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that intervention. That is a huge and very important concession about

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the process that we are to embark on. The argument I have made about a

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vote over the last three months is that the vote must cover both the

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article 50 deal and any future relationship, and I know that to my

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colleagues that it is very important, and that that vote must

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take place before the deal is concluded and I take that from what

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has just been said. That he agree with me that it is not just the

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issue of the vote, it is what happens if this house declines to

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accept the deal that the Government has put forward? The Prime Minister

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said on the 25th of January that if this parliament is not willing to

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accept a deal that has been decided upon with the European Union, then

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as I have said, we will have to fall back on other arrangements. That

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does not guarantee this house as the final decision on our future

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relationship with the EU. My Right Honourable friend the Minister has

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made it perfectly clear that there will be a vote. I will in a moment.

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But the bulk that there is to be, he has also made it clear is able to

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between the option of accepting a particular set of arrangements that

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have been negotiated by Her Majesty's it and not excepting those

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arrangements, and thereby leaving the you without either in one case a

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withdrawal agreement, or any other case, an arrangement for the future.

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Everyone today said that they agree that the parliamentary vote should

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be meaningful, but in fact, what the minister said does not provide that

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assurance at all. What concerns me is what happens if, despite its best

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effort, the Government fails to no fault of its own and we have no

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deal, and how revolutionary is it to say, in the event of no deal, and in

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the right and meaningful time as we go to that new relationship, please

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could we have a say? Not on behalf Parliament, on behalf of all our

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constituents. That is a little bit as though you can imagine two years

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of travel, journeying down those roads of negotiation and we get to

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the edge of the canyon and we have a point of decision. Are we going to

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have that bridge across the chasm? Which might be the new treaty? It

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might take is to that new future. Or are we going to potentially decide

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to drive off into the unknown, into the abyss. And Parliament should

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have the right to decide that point. This is the concession that I think

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many honourable members are seeking. MPs voted in favour

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of the Government's position The Commons Speaker caused

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controversy at the start of the week when he declared that

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President Trump should not be allowed to address MPs

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in Westminster Hall - he went on to accuse him

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of racism and sexism. The unexpected remarks

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from the Speaker were commented on 24 hours later by a seasoned

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Conservative. Point of order, Sir Edward Lee. As

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we are a democratic assembly, I think that the only way we can work

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is to respect the authority of the speaker. Otherwise, there will be

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complete chaos. Now, it may be that I have my own personal view, but

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personally, I think that if the Queen has issued an invitation to Mr

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Trump on the advice of her ministers, I think he is the

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president of the free world, and if we have entertained the president of

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China then we can entertain him. But that is my view. But at the end of

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the day, I think we have to respect that support the office of Speaker.

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Not sure there is, but I will take it and I will come back to the

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honourable gentleman. You may recall at business questions last week, I

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raise the inability of ordinary members of this house to express an

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opinion through a vote on what was an unprecedented quick invitation to

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a head of state, and I believe that we all you a debt of gratitude for

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deciding in this case that such an invitation should not be supported

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by members of this house. We know the reasons why it was done. It was

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done rapidly in order to avoid political embarrassment to the Prime

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Minister. But this certainly shouldn't be extended, any

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invitation to this house, to such a person as Donald Trump. First in

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respect of the point of order just raised by the honourable gentleman,

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can I thank you for what he has said and added merely that I responded to

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a substantive point of order on this matter yesterday and I think it only

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fair to say that there is no need for me to provide a running

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commentary today. But there is a worrying breach of etiquette that

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has broken out now over the last few months of members clapping in this

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chamber. Is there anything in your power to do anything about that?

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Well, members shouldn't do so, and the answer is that maybe I should be

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even more robust. I usually am pretty robust. The point was made

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yesterday about that, that it shouldn't happen. All I can say is

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that one has to deal with every situation as it arises and sometimes

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it is better just to let thing past had to make a song and dance about

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it, but I respect the gentleman's Goodman to tradition.

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Meanwhile, the Lord Speaker was making his views known

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the rich speakers received an address by United States to address

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parliament, they both have to agree to the invitation after

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consultation. The whole purpose is to seek consensus injuring both

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houses have the opportunity to consider the request. Yesterday in

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the Commons Mr Burgos said he was opposed to the president bigging. I

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should make it clear I was not consulted on that decision or its

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timing. However the Speaker contacted me this morning and told

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me that while human Keynes 's view on the issue he was genuinely sorry

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for failing to consult with me. Obviously I accepted that apology.

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My view is that I would keep an open mind and consider any request from

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Mr Trump to address parliament if and when it is made. I do not intend

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to argue the case for or against Mr Trump's visit. That is not my role

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as Speaker. The risk procedure as it stands means that either Mr Speaker

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or myself can effectively vetoed a proposal for visiting leader to

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address parliament at least as far as Westminster Hall is concerned. I

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think it is for Parliament to consider whether there is a better

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way in which such decisions can be made.

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You're watching our round-up of the day in the Commons and the Lords.

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The Government's defended its treatment of interpreters

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who used to work with UK troops in Afghanistan.

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A Conservative MP on the Defence Committee -

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which has been looking at what support is given to local

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people who've worked alongside the British -

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Raffi Hottak, a former interpreter who was injured in Helmand

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and now lives in the UK, described how - if workers moved

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to different parts of Afghanistan - they would be seen as having backed

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The perception all over the country for them is that they have

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served the infidel forces, they are the eyes and ears

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You move to a different location, they see you as a spy.

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You flag up in this society where you don't belong to.

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I dealt specifically with a case that was brought to my attention

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by two colleagues of mine who are still serving and felt

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rather constrained by this in terms of bringing it

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But this particular individual had worked with us

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When the Americans had left he had gone back to his province

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in the east of the country, where he then received nightly

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letters and then he had to leave his family.

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He attempted to access one of the schemes that we had set up,

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but he fell outside the rather tight and overtight boundaries

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Hundreds of applications that have been granted to people under

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the redundancy scheme to come here, but as I understand that there has

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only been a single application, maybe that has gone up a bit,

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of people who have applied to come to the UK and the intimidation

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scheme and it's the intimidation scheme that we are most worried

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about, because our main concern has to be that people who helped us

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are now being left to dangle and twist in the wind.

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In terms of the number of people who have applied

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for intimidation scheme, it's about 400, of whom about 30

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have been granted money to relocate in Afghanistan and of whom one

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or two, depending on how you define one, who is a Foreign Office LEC,

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who have been accepted for Visa applications to come back to the UK.

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How many of those who applied to the intimidation scheme

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How many asked to come to the UK and how many were turned down?

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Probably the vast majority wanted to come to the UK.

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I mean, it is probably unfair to say turned down.

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What we do is look at what is required to manage

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In some cases their concern is quite generic, it's

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about instability in Afghanistan, it's about a desire

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In some cases it's an absolutely specific threat which we will

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address, and in some cases that is meant by changes

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In some cases it is met by relocation to another

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I'm not in any way saying that everybody that applies is saying

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economically they would be better off here if somebody could do this.

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But it is fully investigated by trained officers who actually see

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And at the same time we have to be very conscious of, you know,

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Given, in my opinion, our shabby treatment

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of Afghan interpreters, do you think in future operations

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it is going to severely impede our ability to recruit locals

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I would probably have assumed that, but actually because we pay very

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well, there is a good contract, there are new schemes going forward,

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we have no shortage, interestingly enough,

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but people who want to work with us and interpreters

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For too long, the European Union has been 'marching

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The phrase of the business leader and former Trade

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Minister Digby Jones, now Lord Jones.

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He told a committee of MPs weighing up Britain's trade options

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after 2019 that when it came to trade, the EU had been

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You have mentioned in the past, I think it was in your

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book Fixing Britain, that our own government,

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whether elected politicians or enforcers in the civil service,

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must not suffocate our lifeline into the 21st-century.

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The point that you have just made around the way that European Union

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regulations are introduced in Britain as opposed

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to other parts of the EU, is it not also possible that

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many of the issues you faced were actually as a result of the EU

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having that exclusive competence over trade which stops the agility

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of British business and therefore if the British Government act

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They appear to be marching valiantly towards 1970.

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Whether you're the US, Nafta at the moment,

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whether you are Britain in out of the EU, wherever you are you have

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got to be globally competitive in a value-added economy

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So in a way, if Britain's exit can put that wake-up call into Brussels

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to bring about the reform that if only it had reformed,

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Britain would probably have voted to stay in,

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then that will be a good thing and I come back to the point,

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this is about an unemployed kid in Athens having no chance

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of a job because the whole ideology is not globalised.

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And one thing Britain has always done in, out,

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any political party in power, it doesn't matter, they have always

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They have always had an open market and they have always wanted

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And the one thing that being a member of the EU has not

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allowed us to do is to the best deal for a kid in Manchester,

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because we've had to do what Brussels has said.

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A Labour MP says she's "ashamed to live in a country"

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where unexpected deaths of mental health patients is on the rise.

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Monday's night Panorama programme on BBC TV revealed how an increase

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in deaths of such patients had coincided with cuts in numbers

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At health questions in the Commons, the former Shadow Health Minister

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Luciana Berger said no-one should lose their life in

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Members across this House might have seen that Panorama programme

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last night and frankly it was shocking and disgusting.

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And I am ashamed to live in a country where in the past year

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there has been over 1000 more unexpected deaths under the care

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That is not a reflection of a country that cares equally

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about mental health as it does about physical health,

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and in spite of what the Secretary of State just told us,

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the money he talks about is not getting to where it is intended.

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What is he actually going to do to ensure that no person

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in our country, not one single person should lose their life

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because they have a mental health condition that is not

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Let me start by saying I agree with her.

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There is a huge amount we need to do to improve mental health

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But let me also said to her that a huge amount has been

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We are now, as she knows, seeing 1400 more people every day

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We are committing huge amounts of extra money into mental health

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provision and we are a think becoming a global leader

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in mental health provision, certainly according to the person

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who is in charge of the Royal College of Psychiatrists,

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and I think we have to support the efforts that are happening

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in the NHS, because I think we are one of the best in the world.

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Now, once upon a time they were a harmless feature

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But have they now become too much of a curse of modern-day living?

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A recent study says Britain's seagull population has

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But are they getting not just more plentiful but more aggressive?

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Time for a parliamentary debate on what to do about seagulls.

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A coastal MP explained why things were getting serious.

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My local newspaper the Plymouth Herald ran

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a story last summer titled, "Plymouth will belong

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to seagulls this summer, but this is how you can avoid them."

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You see photos in the press of a pensioner with

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We read stories about a diving seagull killing a pet dog.

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Things have become so bad and so widely publicised that our

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former Prime Minister David Cameron said he wanted a big conversation

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When I am on the phone in my constituency talking to anyone else,

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anywhere else in the country, they always referred to the lovely

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sound of seagulls in the background, so for many, many people they come

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to Cornwall because of the contribution that seagulls make,

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but the truth is they are getting and it is getting

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The problem of seagulls is not confined to town

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They breed and nest on the flat roofs of houses.

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They squabble with each other, they squawk incessantly at all hours

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of the day and night, creating a nasty racket.

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And this noise and filth, which can only be a health hazard,

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constitutes quite a serious challenge for residents even

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There could be a case for, as I like to put it,

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mobile licensing awareness points around homes.

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Simply desks with printers and bits of information to tell people

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what their rights are to empower them to take back their communities

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against the blight of seagulls which is so often

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But do join me for our next daily round-up.

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Until then, from me, Keith Macdougall, goodbye.

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