30/01/2017 Victoria Derbyshire

This programme has discovered that Aston Villa sacked a scout accused

of sexually abusing boys in 1988, but did not go to police.

Professional player Tony Brien has waived his right to anonymity

to tell us he went to the club to tell them about the abuse he was

That full exclusive interview at 0915.

Also on the programme: After worldwide backlash

against new restrictions on travel to the United States,

bans against seven countries aren't directed against Muslims.

They say it is based on a policy first introduced by President Obama.

If you are a Christian in Syria, it was impossible, very tough to get

into the United States. If you were a Muslim you could come in, and I

thought it was very, very unfair. And as MPs launch an investigation

into how damaging fake news is, the editor-in-chief of one fake news

website tells us politicians should focus their attention

on newspapers instead. Welcome to the programme,

we're live until 11. Latest breaking news

and developing stories to come - a little later in the programme

we'll hear how one school is advertising for a "school

detention director" who will be a "sergeant major in

the detention room". It's thought to be the first time

such a role has been advertised. Do get in touch on all the stories

we're talking about this morning. If you text, you will be charged

at the standard network rate. Our top story today: Six people have

been shot dead and eight others wounded at a Mosque in the Canadian

city of Quebec. The Canadian Prime Minister

Justin Trudeau described the incident as "a terrorist

attack against Muslims". Sarah Corker's report

contains flashing images. Police closed off the area

surrounding the Quebec City Islamic Cultural Centre as armed officers

entered the mosque. It was during evening prayers

on Sunday that witnesses say gunmen opened fire

on 40 worshippers inside. Ambulances continued to take away

the dead and injured. Quebec provincial police confirmed

two suspects have been arrested. We consider the event like an act

of terrorism and we can persons pronounced dead and eight

persons is in hospital with minor The Canadian Prime Minister Justin

Trudeau said in a statement: The city rejects this barbaric

violence and express solidarity with Victors' families.

said: The motive for this attack is unknown but incidents

of Islamophobia in Quebec have increased in recent years.

Joining us now from Quebec is local reporter Peter Tardif.

It's the middle of the night there now and he's in

You have just come back from the scene. What's the latest? All we

know is what has been reported, six people dead, eight wounded, 39 other

people who were inside safe and sound, but I split -- at this point,

it is just coming to terms with the shock and reality.

Tell us a little bit about Quebec and the diversity of the population.

Quebec city is the second biggest city in this province, and so a very

peaceful city. The murder rate here is extremely low, less than one

person per year, so this is shocking news to people. Often we hear about

these types of things south of the border or in other places. Quebec

has had some shootings in the past, but this type of incident is

something completely new to people. Very peaceful, very quiet, and those

are words that keep coming up with regards to this incident, simply

disbelief that this could happen here of all places. Are there any

early thoughts about why Muslims might be targeted in Quebec? There

is really no inkling as to what happened here, what transpired here,

why did this happen. Politicians, the mayor, the Premier, the Minister

for public security, not confirming any details, police also not

confirming details, saying this is not a time for politics, it is a

time to mourn. But we know that at this particular mosque this past

summer there was a pig's head deposited near it during Ramadan, so

people mentioning this again today as a possible hate crime,

Islamophobia at that time present, and now this event, trying to link

those two, that is something people are talking about. Thank you very

much, Peter. Let's bring you the rest of this morning's news. Joanne

is on the BBC newsroom. Good morning.

Protests have intensified across America against President Trump's

travel ban on people from seven mainly-Muslim countries.

The President insists the ban is not about religion,

Politicians here are concerned about the impact it might

Here's our Washington Correspondent David Willis.

MAN CHANTS: No ban, no wall - New York for all.

In a country built by immigrants, many find Donald Trump's

They took to the streets in cities across the nation,

as the crackdown sparked chaotic scenes at some airports

and promptied criticism from senior members

Neal Behgooy and his wife underwent several hours

of questioning after touching down in Texas from Iran.

Over the weekend about 300 people were either prevented

They asked her about her family, about her brothers and

President Trump issued his controversial order without input

from or giving notice to the government departments that

will need to implement it, hence the concern of officials

here and elsewhere in trying to interpret it in the face

of a flurry of lawsuits and the concerns of

The Foreign Office says the ban only applies to people travelling

to the US from one of the seven countries on the list.

Travellers from the UK won't be affected and neither will UK

citizens travelling from any of those seven countries to America,

unless, that is, they're joint citizens of one of the seven

nations, in which case they're likely to face additional checks.

For all the confusion, Mr Trump's aides have deemed

the travel ban a success and they issued a statement seeking

to dispel suggestions that it amounted to a ban on Muslims:

Despite the backlash, Donald Trump knows that

many of those who voted for him did so specifically because of his

promise to combat the threat of so-called radical

To them, this just represents another promise kept.

This programme has discovered that Aston Villa sacked a scout accused

of sexually abusing boys in 1988 but did not go to police.

20 years later, that scout - Ted Langford - was jailed for sexual

offences against young boys between 1976 and 1989 -

Former professional player Tony Brien says he was abused

numerous times by Langford from the age of 12 whilst

playing for local youth team Dunlop Terriers.

We'll have more on this in the next few minutes.

A group of MPs is to carry out a parliamentary inquiry

The Commons, Media and Sport committee will investigate

inaccurate or false news stories being shared on social media.

Members of the Committee say they've noted concerns over people

being fed false information from nontraditional news sources.

A free school in London is advertising for a "school

The advert says they need someone who will be a "sergeant major

The advert goes on to say the role isn't suited to someone who wants

to be every child's best friend, but for someone who believes

children need clear, firm discipline.

The Department for Education says it is a matter for the school to

comment on. In the next few minutes, we will be

talking to Tony Brian, he is with us this morning, he has waived his

right to anonymity to speak out publicly for the first time about

the abuse he said he was subjected to by a scout at a youth team when

he was aged 12. As a teenager, he reported the Scarratt. The scout was

then working at Aston Villa. Aston Villa decided to sack this garret,

but they didn't go to the police. We will talk to him in the next few

minutes. Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning. Use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

and if you text, you will be charged Let's get some sport

with Tim Hague now. Tim, plenty of big shocks in the FA

Cup over the weekend, but not everybody is happy

with the big teams This comes up every year!

You are right, Victoria. People not very happy at all. You would think

we would be talking about the likes of Sutton, Lincoln Wolverhampton

Wanderers, all bringing brilliant result in knocking out Premier

League and championship side, but the teams rested 51 players from

their previous games, an incredible amount, and imagine, as a fan, you

travel hundreds of miles to watch your team play, and you are left

embarrassed by the result, but most of your team are not even regulars.

Leeds made ten changes, and non-league Sutton outplayed them

yesterday. It was the same for Brighton, nine there. The biggest

shock of the weekend was at Anfield on Saturday lunchtime. Walls just

too good for Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool. He made nine changes,

while Oxford beat Newcastle side also with nine rested players. I

think it is fair to say that former England captain Alan Shearer is not

happy about it at all. I think they are cheating the fans. Newcastle

fans travelled 250 master Oxford expecting their team to win, and he

puts out a weakened team. Newcastle have one of the biggest and best

teams in the championship, six points clear with a game in hand of

third place, so it is very disappointing.

Not everyone is disappointed. Despite 13 Premier League clubs in

the fourth round making 98 changes to their line-ups, it makes for a

more other's competition, some think. Every team is making changes,

not just the Premier League teams. I think it is making the FA Cup

better, once you get the fifth sixth round, a lot of clubs are playing at

home to limit changes, but I think it has been fantastic for the cup

that we have seen so many upsets. I am all for playing the kids. You can

see Phil Neville's point of view, but many feel that the FA Cup is

devalued with a rested players. It is the fifth round draw on the One

Show later this evening, nobody can make changes to that!

Thank you. Good morning, welcome to the programme.

This programme has discovered that Aston Villa sacked a scout accused

of sexually abusing boys in 1988, but did not go to police.

20 years later that scout, Ted Langford, was jailed for sexual

offences against young boys between 1976 and 1989 -

Former professional player Tony Brien says he was abused

numerous times by Langford from the age of 12 whilst

playing for local youth team Dunlop Terriers.

He's waived his right to anonymity to speak

Tony Brien, who then went on to play for Leicester, Chesterfield,

West Brom and Hull City, says that whilst at Leicester -

at the age of 18 - he reported Langford -

who was then working as a scout at Aston Villa -

They sacked him - but we've learnt they did not

Mr Brien decided to speak publicly after seeing our interview

with Andy Woodward and three other former players.

They now campaign for better safeguarding in sport and hundreds

of other alleged victims have now come forward after our initial

We can speak to them both now - as you'd expect with

an interview of this nature - we will hear some graphic details

of sexual abuse which you may not want young children to hear.

Good morning, both of you. Thank you very much for coming on the

programme. Tony, thank you for talking

to us this morning. You decided to speak out

after seeing our interview I tried to speak out 30 years ago,

and I was listened to, and when I saw Andy Woodward go on the

television and speak out about it, it inspired me to come out and say

what happened to me, because I waited long enough, and I felt as

though the time was right, because when Andy first sat on the sofa, he

was alone. He urged victims to come forward and everything like that, so

I just couldn't ignore it any more, and I decided to come forward. I

telephoned the NSPCC helpline, and the rest is where I am today. Can I

ask you about the abuse that Ted Lankford subjected you to. He was

like somebody we always looked up to, somebody like that. He used to

turn up at my school and speak to me at games on Sunday and said he

needed something from me. And I used to asking, what is it you need from

me? I'm not telling you yet, but I need something from you. If you want

to be a footballer, I need something from you. This went on for quite a

number of months, and in the end, he turned around to me and said he

needed a sperm sample of mine. I was in shock, to say the least. I asked

him, could I not do this at home or anything like that, and he said, no,

it needs to be fresh. He said the reason why he needed it was so that

Leicester City doctors could examine it to see if I had a gene inside of

me that would make me become a footballer. A foot all's Jean?

And being so young at that time, you believed anything that people said

to you. He mass debated me, and himself as well, and it happened on

several occasions where he just kept saying that the sample wasn't

correct, I need you to do it again, and again. Until one day I said to

him, this stops now. Otherwise I will chop your Venus of. What age

where you when you said that to him. 14. Where would this abuse take

place? He used to take me to a golf course, at the back of the old

school that I used to go, a school in Handsworth and there was a golf

course at the back there and he used to drive up there. That's where it

took place. How did it make you feel? At the

time, you would have done anything because I thought it was right, but

you know, of all the years, now, I just feel dirty and I can't explain.

It's just, you would have done anything in them days, your dream

was to become a professional footballer. You know you believed

things that people said to you. And I would have done anything to become

a professional footballer, but I didn't know what I was doing then

was, you know, actually wrong because I trusted adults. And when

at 14 you told him where to go, what had changed? Did you know that this,

what he was doing to you was wrong? Yeah, it's just, I knew something

wasn't right. I knew from, you know, we used to go on trips abroad and

kids were coming out with love bites all over their neck and things like

that and it was just, it was just, it was just terrible to see it. Why

did he say he had to keep on doing it? He said that my sperm hadn't

come back from the doctor's with the right results. It wasn't, a test

that had been completed properly. It was inconclusive? Yes. So he would

say we have to do the test again, but we'll leave it for a few weeks.

We would have to do the test again. Unbelievable. Yes. This happened six

or seven times over that period of two years or so. How did he treat

you after it stopped? After you stopped him. After I stopped him, I

used to always be sat in the front of the van when we used to go to

matches and I think his way of dealing with it, he would put me to

the back of the van. And you told your mum, didn't you? When I was 18,

yes, I revealed it, yes, I did. How did she react? Obviously, she was in

shock. No mother likes to see her child hurt. She only knew about it

when I had actually reported it. In terms of reporting it, in 1988 you

were 18, you were playing at Leicester, Ted Langford was then

working at Villa with an assistant manager called Dave Richardson, he

was assistant manager to Graham Taylor, you worked with Dave

Richardson at Leicester and you say he decided to tell Dave Richardson

what Ted Langford had done to you, what did you say to Dave Richardson?

I told him what happened and it was over a number of phone calls. The

phone calls went on more about three to five weeks. And I was told that

something, they were dealing with it. They were dealing with it. And

then I got a phone call to say to me can you really be doing with all of

this teeny? Can you dealing with the obscenities from the terraces. Just

sweep it underneath the carpet, I was told. Dave Richardson denies

that he discouraged you from going public. He says he would never have

done that. He says he did everything possible to protect young players.

When we first spoke to him, he initially appeared to remember

speaking to you, several times, over the phone back in 1988, but in a

statement last night, he clarified his comments and he said he did not

believe he had ever spoken to you about the abuse. You say you

suffered, but he says that he and Graham Taylor and Doug Ellis had

heard claims of abuse from other parents and decided to sack Ted

Langford. This is Dave Richardson's statement last night. During the

1987, 1988 pre-season I was told of some alarming allegations by Mr

Langford by a member of staff at Aston Villa. I took these seriously

and began making inquiries. These led me to speak to the parents of

two young footballers at aston Villa who each told me their sons were

abused by Ted Langford. I asked them if they were going to report the

allegations to the police or if they wanted to. After consulting with

each other, both sets of parents told me they didn't want the matter

reported to the police. I don't think you were aware that other

parents had reported the abuse until now? I have never been aware of

that. Some months after you flagged this abuse to Villa, Langford was

sacked. But he wasn't reported to the police by the club, what do you

think of that? Why? Why was he not reported? How does that make you

feel, the fact that they didn't? What were they were trying to do at

the time, I don't know. All I know, I reported to the people I thought

it was right to report it to. For them not to report it to the police,

I just can't understand why they didn't do it. What do you think

about the fact that other parents talked to staff at Villa about their

own boys being abused? Well, when I first went forward to reveal what

had happened to me, I asked three other lads to come with me as well.

They didn't have the courage at the time to come forward. And I just did

what I had to do Victoria. 20 years after you flagged this, after you

first raised the alarm over Langford he was convicted of abusing boys at

Villa and Leicester. At least one conviction is of abuse in 1989. So

after you raised the alarm about him, what do you think about that?

It could have been stopped. It could have been stopped. Ted Langford died

in 2011. When you rang the police to tell them what had happened to you,

they told you, so they couldn't take it any further. On Friday, I think,

you heard that the FA want to meet you? I had a phone call off the West

Midlands Police saying that a solicitor of the FA was trying to

get hold of my details, is it OK to pass them on which I thought they

would have been passed on automatically, but I had no

objection to that whatsoever. Right. I think the West Midlands Police had

alerted the FA in December though when you went to the police first of

all? I went to the police on the 1st December this year and I reported it

to them and they did an interview with me and they passed the

information on to the FA within a couple of days. The West Midlands

Police in this have been outstanding. They are keeping me

informed about things. So yes, I passed it on on the 1st December.

Would you have expected to have heard from the FA by now? Yes. What

do you think about the fact that you haven't? I find it unbelievable that

I haven't been contacted. You know, I saw a television interview with

somebody from the FA saying they would speak to every single football

player that comes forward and I've not had a phone call. What kind of

impact did the abuse that you endured have on your playing career?

I don't know what impact it had on my playing career, but my personal

life, how I feel, after all these years, I tried to report this 30

years ago and I was ignored. So, the way it makes you feel, it makes you

feel dirty. It makes you feel did I encourage it? It makes you ask

yourself all sorts of questions. It's always inside your head, you

just can't get rid of it. You can't get rid of it. After you say you

reported it to Villa, then do you, you just keep it in, do you, for

decades? Well, I obviously expected something to be done, but I was just

told do I really want the obscenities from the terraces? You

know, I just thought, that's it. What can I do about it? I've tried

to report it. And it has not got me anywhere and I have to get on with

it. In terms of your personal life, what affect has the abuse had on

your life? It's took an impact where, you know, I've lived a normal

life. Of course, I've lived a normal life, as normal as I can, but when

you've got something like that inside of you, it's something that

is going to stay with you until the day that you die. I've had two

failed marriages. And also, you know, I drunk heavily as well. And

you know, it's just things that I tried to do to forget about it. But

it is always there. Let me bring in Andy. I know you wanted him

alongside you as you talk to us. Andy, your reaction to what Tony has

told us today? I just am so, so proud of him and he gave me a call

and told me what had happened and each time I get something, it is

just, everything is just so shocking. I was just so shocked to

hear that he reported it when he was 18 and the fact that nothing

happened for him, you know, that's terrible. And I just, you know, I

was just so pleased and I'm so proud of him and he's so brave to do this

because it takes so much, like everybody else, and we had the phone

call on that Sunday, didn't we, Tony? And we were both in tears, you

know, because it's just so emotional. It has been an emotional

time for everyone, but I just feel like now oum' really proud that I

did it initially and there is so many now that are doing the right

thing and things are getting done. What about the fact that Villa

didn't report Ted Langford to the police because they say other

parents, whose boys had been abecaused, didn't want them to? It's

a difficult one that, isn't it? It's something that, it is only them back

then that can discuss that, it is such a long time ago, but you know,

it's just shocking, isn't it, to think of those things were happening

then and it was reported and not reported to the police and it goes

back to that mandatory reporting, doesn't it? Well, it does. Are you

one of those who thinks that mandatory reporting should be

introduced to force clubs and anyone else actually to report to the

police if they suspect abuse is going on? I mean, the mandatory

reporting, I've spoken to people from different countries and when I

speak to people in Australia, or the US, they're shocked that mandatory

reporting isn't in this country. I mean it is for the politicians to

discuss that and come up with a strategy around whether they can do

that or not, but surely, you know, there has to be something to report

these sort of things that are going on because it's still happening now

and we're having the reports to the NSPCC about them happening now so

something has to be done at some point. It has to be discussed. I

want to ask you about the former Director of Crewe who has been

suspended by Crewe, Dario Gradi. Yesterday he was at Sutton United.

They say he wasn't a guest of honour of theirs. The FA tell us Dario

Gradi's ban, or suspension, doesn't stop him attending a game as a

spectator in a personal capacity, but he was there on the pitch, I

think we've got pictures to show that. What's your reaction to that?

It's difficult really because I'm quite emotional about everything

that's happened and yeah, I was shocked and you know, hurt and

angry, I will say that personally I was because there is an

investigation going on and that independent investigation will

reveal what's revealed, I'm not suggest that anything is going to

happen with Dario Gradi, but there is a lot of people that are out

there, us survivors, that would be deeply upset by it.

Dario Gradi has been suspended pending an investigation suggesting

that he smoothed over, that is a quote, an accusation in the 70s. He

isn't accused of any abuse himself. There is a meeting next week between

the FA, what are you hoping to achieve? I have been talking to an

adviser around strategies, how we can make for all a safer place, and

that is my mission to, to go and make it a safe place. These

organisations have agreed to meet me, and that is progress, and they

are all collectively going to meet me and I will discuss those things

with them, how we can improve and make it a safer place, also from

football coaches, because there are so many brilliant coaches out there,

there are loads of strategies we can put in place that we can deliver to

them, and hopefully they will assist with safeguarding children. Those

who are speaking out, are they getting enough support? Are you

getting enough support? That is the other thing. I have been diagnosed

with PTSD. I also want to speak to the governing bodies about how we

can put things in place for all of the survivors, because there are so

many of us now, that is another strategy we need in terms of getting

the right help and therapy, because it deeply affects us, as Tony said,

and it is still affecting us. Over the last eight weeks or so, I have

been really suffering, I have had to see my psychiatrist, and this is

ongoing for us, so we do need that support and help, and I have a

strategy in place but I want to deliver to them for them to support

us, because they owe us that. Tony, can I just read you to three

messages from our audience who have been watching speak today. This

viewer says, I just want to say what a brave, brave man is with you

today. You are an inspiration to others that can't find the strength

to come forward, keep your head high and keep speaking out because the

whole nation supports you. This tweet from John, I feel so

sorry for this man, it is sickening. And also unbelievable that the FA

have not yet contacted him. And Patrick says, watching the interview

about abuse these young players went through, it breaks my heart.

What would you say to anyone who might be considering speaking out,

but just doesn't know if it is the right thing. Come forward. Simple as

that, come forward. Don't be frightened. This man started it all

off, that is why I came forward. Just come forward, because it's big,

and it happened, and it happened to a lot of people. And it's something

that you can't keep inside yourself for ever. If you come forward, at

least you will get some help, and that's my mission, Victoria, so we

can get that help, and there is so many more out there. We know there

is, we have both said it. Everybody who talks about it says, there are

so many more, we know it. When you finally contacted the police, Tony,

how different did you feel, once you had taken that step? Like I had got

the world off my shoulders. Really? Yes, like I had the world off my

shoulders. For so many years, you just want the truth to be told, and

to actually get it out and speak to people, it just felt like the world

was lifted off my shoulders, because after 35 years I got the chance to

tell somebody about it, even if it wasn't in good circumstances or

anything. But I was relieved. Thank you very much for talking to us. I

really appreciated, thank you. Thank you both coming the programme.

Aston Villa told us they consider "the safeguarding and welfare

of all players and staff to be of paramount importance.

And that they would encourage anyone with any allegation or concern

regarding safeguarding or other potential wrongdoing to contact

Leicester told us the club has "no indication of any current

or historic allegations made against or in relation to employees.

"We would, of course, investigate fully in the event any

Bruce Elliott, the chairman of Sutton United, says,

"Dario Gradi was not a guest of honour at Sutton's FA Cup fourth

This was to do with a game that had been played 47 years ago

and Sutton United asked all of the players that

are still around if they wanted to come to the game.

Dario Gradi was one of a number of players from the Sutton United

The FA has introduced a dedicated hotline,

staffed by NSPCC professionals, which is available 24 hours

And you can find a list of other organisations that help

with sexual abuse on the BBC Action Line - bbc.co.uk/actionline.

And we'll bring you more reaction to that exclusive story

Still to come in the next half-hour, as a petition calling for Donald

Trump's trip to the UK to be cancelled nears 1 million, we will

hear from MPs who are calling on Theresa May to cancel the visit.

And MPs are also launching an investigation into how

damaging fake news is - the editor-in-chief of one fake news

website tells us politicians should focus their attention

That's still to come on this mornings programme.

Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

Six people have been shot dead - and eight others wounded -

at a Mosque in the Canadian city of Quebec.

The Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau described the incident

as 'a terrorist attack against Muslims.' More than 50

people were at the mosque at the time of the attack.

President Trump has insisted that his travel ban is not

about religion, but about protecting America.

The restrictions close US borders to all refugees for four months,

and to citizens of seven mainly-Muslim countries

UK nationals with dual citizenship will be largely unaffected,

but could face extra checks if they're travelling directly

This programme has discovered that Aston Villa sacked a scout accused

of sexually abusing boys in 1988 but did not go to police.

20 years later that scout, Ted Langford, was jailed for sexual

offences against young boys between 1976 and 1989,

a year after he left the club Former professional player Tony Brien says

he was abused numerous times by Langford from the age of 12

whilst playing for local youth team Dunlop Terriers.

Speaking to Victoria in the last few minutes,

he described it as something that is always there which will stay

At the time, I would have done nothing, because I thought it was

right. But after all the years, now, I just feel dirty. I can't explain.

A free school in London is advertising for a "school

The advert says they need someone who will be a "sergeant major

The advert goes on to say the role isn't suited to someone who wants

to be every child's best friend but for someone who believes

children need clear, firm discipline.

The Department for Education says it is a matter

Black actors have dominated the Screen Actors Guild

Denzel Washington was named the best actor for Fences.

The event was notable for the outspoken criticism of

The actor Ashton Kutcher opened proceedings by welcoming

"everyone in airports", saying they "belonged in America".

That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

Here are some more comments from you messages from Eva Tony Brown and

Andy Woodward. Incredible gentlemen, we are all behind you. This one

says, this man is amazing, I am a care support worker and I know how

people feel in difficult circumstances. For him to speak out

is extremely brave. And Veronica, keep going, you brave man, you have

been through so much, and we are all behind you. Thank you very much for

those. He the sport. It was a weekend of shocks in the FA

Cup fourth round. Sutton United joined another non-league team,

Lincoln City, in the hat for the fifth round draw after beating Leeds

United yesterday. Several former players including Alan Shearer have

criticised Premier League and championship teams for fielding

weakened line-ups. Celtic extended their unbeaten domestic run 27

matches by beating hearts 4-0 in the Scottish Premiership. Their win

broke 50 record set by Lisbon Lions. England captain Eoin Morgan says

poor umpiring cost England victory in the second T20 match against

India. Jonah Reed was controversially out in the last over

as the tourists lost by just five runs. The decider is on Wednesday.

And Roger Federer says he has no intention of retiring after winning

his 18th grand slam title yesterday. The new Australian open champion

climb to tenth in the world rankings after his incredible victory over

Rafa Nadal in Melbourne. Did you watch that, Victoria?

I listen to it on the radio, and it was fabulous, it really was. Thank

you. Prime Minister Theresa May has made

it clear the devolved administrations will not be given

a decisive role in the UK's divorce from the European Union ahead

of talks later this morning Our correspondent Thomas

Morgan is in Cardiff. Hello, Tomos, what is happening

today? I will be discussing Brexit and what the devolved ministers

would like to see. Carwyn Jones of the Labour government here in

Cardiff has always said he would like to stay in the single market

and have a Norway style soft Brexit where we stay in the single market

and people can come to the UK as long as they have a job. That is in

fact the White Paper he put to Westminster this time last week,

with Leanne Wood of Plaid Cymru. That is in sharp contrast to what

Theresa May said just two weeks ago, when she said staying in the market

was not going to be in option. Nicola Sturgeon said she and Carwyn

Jones share similar views on Brexit, and they both wanted to have a vote

in their different Senedd, here adding Edinburgh for their devolved

nations. So that they have some sort of say as to what happens in Brexit.

But of course what we heard last Tuesday is that there wouldn't be a

meeting but there would be a consideration when the Brexit talks

continue in Westminster. Are there -- are they going to be able to

reach an agreement? Difficult to say, because they are both speaking

from completely different points of view and want different things.

Theresa May set out what she thought would be the most possible realistic

way for the UK leaving the European Union two weeks ago. In sharp

contrast to what Carwyn Jones wanted, which was to stay in the

single market. He believes it is so important for Wales as businesses

rely on the single market. Wales was the only other country in the UK

that voted the European Union, but of course Carwyn Jones, First

Minister, of labour, campaign to stay in the EU, so difficult

position for him to try to get his voice and what he would like to see

happen. But with Nicola Sturgeon coming down as Scotland having voted

to remain, he does have extra help when they consider these to Scotians

later in Cardiff. Thank you very much, Tomos.

Tens of thousands of people in America have taken part in protests

against President Trump's ban on citizens of seven mainly Muslim

The President says the restrictions would be lifted once policies

to improve America's security have been implemented.

The Foreign Office says UK nationals travelling to America shouldn't be

The Foreign Office has now clarified that Brits with dual nationality

from one of the seven countries won't be banned from travelling

to the States, but could face extra border checks.

Here's how the story has unfolded over the last 48 hours.

Do you know, if you are Christian in Syria, it was impossible,

at least very, very tough to get into the United States.

If you are a Muslim, you could come in, and I thought

It is, and as my sign says, morally wrong

It goes against everything this country stands for,

everything this country was built on.

It is un-American, it is unconstitutional.

It has to be revoked and changed and fought against.

When I left home, I was not sure if I was going to make it

because there were so many twisting news about people who were detained.

The executive order was not very clear.

So everybody is panicked right now in Afghanistan.

The values that our President seems to have espoused are so not mine

I have a toddler at home and I don't want him to grow up in a world

where we act from hate and fear of people that look

No hate, no fear, refugees are welcome here!

The United States is responsible for the United States

The United Kingdom is responsible for the United

The Prime Minister is not a shoot from the hip type of politician.

She wants to understand precisely what the implications are.

There is always pressure to respond within a new cycle and so on.

Important thing is we are saying that we disagree with it

He was elected to say he would do everything within his power

to protect America from infiltration by Isis terrorists.

Now, there are seven countries on that list.

He says he will revisit the policy? Is it a U-turn? Has the White House

been knocked by the wave of criticism from around the world and

within America, you bet it has. I'm not happy about him coming here

until the ban is lifted. Look at what is happening with those

countries, how many more is it going to be and what's going to be the

long-term effect of this on the rest of the world? The last four or five

years have required a degree of caution that we have not been

exercising before. I think it is appropriate. Whatever needs to be

done, has to be done and this is for the safety of everybody. We feel

very threatened in this country and there is a lot of things that the

general public don't know about that the Government know abouts as far as

security and threats to our country and if they feel this is necessary,

then I'm with it all the way. That petition calling for Donald

Trump's state visit to the UK to be cancelled, it is 994, 365. It is on

course for one million. Let's speak to some people

affected by the travel ban. In Chicago is Sananeh Khoshini

who is Iranian, her husband Sananeh's parents are currently

on holiday in Iran. She's worried that they

won't be able to return. Also with us some Brits

with dual-nationality. Naz Jahanshahi is an Iranian-born

physics student from Manchester. Khaled El Mayet is a

Libyan-British businessman. Abdulaziz Lamlum is

a Libyan-British film-maker. Yesterday they all thought

they would be banned from travelling to the States, but they now know

they can travel there, President Trump says his policy

is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas

for refugees from Ryan Girdusky is a Senior Writer

for Red Alert Politics Just explain how this travel ban is

going to affect your family. Yes, as you already stated my family and my

parents are visiting family in Iraq and based. It will be impacting my

travelling plans. Both of our travelling plans to see family in

New York and also I do travel for work abroad and that's been impacted

by this executive order. You, as I understand it, you have a green card

as do your parents and the Trump administration, have now made it

clear that anyone with green cards can travel freely, irrespective of

where they were born? That has actually not been fully clear. OK.

Green cardholders would be allowed to come here. As far as I have seen

so far, there has been back tracking. I would love to see

something with clarity frommed administration in writing or obtheir

website. White House Chief-of-Staff says the order doesn't affect green

cardholders moving forward. Does that help? I just, you know, with

this situation, you don't know until something forces your hand. So when

our parents, when they're coming back, let's see if they are allowed

in and allowed on their flight and whether they're detained here. But

it doesn't hurt to have some clarity, not just in a press

statement, offhand from previous, but to have something that's clearly

laid out. Fair enough. Rye arnings are you surprised at the reaction to

Mr Trump enacting what he said he was going to do if elected? No, not

really. I think that there are people who are very emotional about

the issue and there are some who are willing to oppose him at anything

when he abolished T Phehlukwayo and you had people like Bernie Sanders

praising him. Bernie Sanders was attacked by his own supporters

saying how dare you give him any congratulations message. Let me

bring in some other people. Abdul and ka lead. Are you emotional about

this? Well, I wasn't really emotional. I didn't think I had

anything to do with this at all until I got a message saying, "You

can't go to America either." I got quite emotional because it means I

can't go to America to do my job if needs to be as a film-maker, I do

commercial work and if an ad, if I need to make an ad in the United

States and I can't go and film there, I just lose work really. Are

you emotional about it? Of course, I'm emotional. The main point is not

about whether I can travel to States today or tomorrow, or the next few

months, for me, it is the backlash, the domino-effect that we might see

from this. Already in Canada we have seen what happened in the mosque

there. It would be difficult to say that isn't in some way inspired by

what Trump has been doing and Brexit. If only in terms of

justifying these beliefs. Look at what is happening in Greece. Look at

the riots which we're seeing. If you look at GCSEs at 16. If you watch a

video from history with the Nazi with their flags, what we saw in

Greece looked similar. I'm not saying about Trump as an individual,

the specific law he signed today, it is the fct and the backlash that's

having, the justification it gives the people who may have harboured

some bigoted and racist views, but kept them to themselves, but only

spoke to them to people of similar opinions. The shooter in the back

was a Muslim? You clearly don't know the facts. Attacking my president.

No, that's completely and utterly nonsense and how dare you. How dare

you. Regarding the protests in Greece... That's nonsense. As far as

a backlash against Trump goes, well considering the polls came out

yesterday in many European nations, far-right party, the Freedom Party

and Marie Le Pen all leading in polls, apparently it is not that

strong of a backlash. That's the backlash right there. The fact that

people like Nigel Farage, these right-wing parties are now getting

supportment that is the consequence that I am alluding to when I say

what Trump is doing is allowing those people to allow the public of

other countries to justify supporting those people. What did

you think, you are an Iranian born physics student, you're in

Manchester. What did you think about the Trump travel ban? I was shocked

and surprised and upset because in today's world, you don't expect to

have to deal with anything like this. This level of discrimination

at all. You know the ban no longer applies to UK citizens unless

they're coming from one of those seven countries? Yes. They will face

extra checks? That has surfaced overnight, but there is the worry

that upon arriving to the US... Sorry, I apologise for interrupting,

we're going to hear from Norman. Hi Norman. I have got on my screen the

number of people who have signed the petition calling for the state visit

to be scrapped and it is cruised above one million people signing

that in the past 36 hours. That's not the biggest ever petition, but

it has to be one of the fastest petition. So what will happen now is

that MPs on the so-called petitions committee meet tomorrow afternoon to

decide whether there should be a Commons debate about whether

president Trump should come here. Having spoken to folk in Downing

Street, they are adamant that this State visit is going ahead come what

may. Their argument being that were to scrap it and withdraw the

invitation, that would just completely undermine everything they

believe they have achieved through that visit to Washington. So they

are minded to press ahead with the State visit regardless of this

petition, regardless of a likely debate in the Commons and regardless

of the outcome of that debate. What do you think of that, despite the

petition reaching over one million, Downing Street say look, we extended

an invitation for the state visit and it was accepted? Well, it's just

something that we're going to have to come to accept. He's going to

come to the UK if that's what the Government wants, but he won't be

welcomed by the people. Do you agree, Abdul? I really don't know. I

will see what Trump, let's see hat impact really does. For me

personally, I don't see how it will affect me until now. As a

film-maker, again, I have been thinking about this practically, in

terms of jobs, not just film making and art generally, there was an

Iranian film-maker who was supposed to be at the Oscars and can't go

now. Winning his second Oscar, his artistic integrity is down the

drain. You have got two passports, is that correct? Yes. You got on the

plane to the States and you arrive. You have got two passports and what

impact do you think that's going to have? Just to make sure I'm not

someone a bit dodgy. I wonder if it would make you think twice about

leaving your country for a while? In case you couldn't get back?

Absolutely. We have built a home that we value very much and we have

family and friends. It does make us decide otherwise. We had to fight

hard to be together. We just never thought it would be the American

side of our relationship that would give us the most trouble. Ryan, does

that, you must feel some sympathy when people like this couple say we

are not going to leave the country in case we can't get back to our

home and our family and friends? Yes, it is very concerning and I do

hope the Trump administration puts out, you know, some kind of document

that says what was said on television yesterday reassuring

American green cardholders that green cardholder to mattering who

come from one of the seven countries that they can freely travel and that

their family can come home safe. But a lot of this emotion was set forth

by the President Obama administration. Look, six of these

seven countries don't have a Government. There is no way to vet

some of these people from some of the places. President Obama did not

ban specific people from entering the US just because they were

citizens from seven countries? President Obama listed those seven

countries exclusively, the same seven, and had travel strictions on

them. What Trump did was a 90 day hold for six of the seven countries

except for Syria which is in the middle of a civil war, it was a 90

day hold which is 87 days, I think. Yes, I hope that American green

cardholders have some clarification and they are able to travel freely

and their rights are respected. But overall, I do think that there is a

campaign on this issue and there is a reason, I think, a lot of his

supporters will find it fine. Thank you all very much for coming

on the programme. Thank you. The latest news and sport is coming

up. Coming up, a school in London is advertising for a school detention

director who will be a sergeant major in the detention room. Well'

get reaction to this particular job being advertised. We think possibly

the first time such a role has been advertised for a school in this

country. Before that, latest weather. Here is

Carol. It has been a cloudy start to today,

look at these pictures from our weather watchers. In Aberdeen, lying

snow and clear skies, and in Guernsey, quite a lot of cloud

around. This week it will turn more unsettled, spells of rain, that it

will be mild and windy, particularly towards the end of the week. This

morning temperatures are as low as -10 in parts of the Highlands, so it

is cold and frosty with patchy fog around, but that will lift leaving

some sunshine. For the rest of England, all of Wales and Northern

Ireland, it is fairly cloudy. The rain coming in across the south-west

will continue to journey slowly north eastwards through the course

of the day, getting into Southern and south-western parts of Wales.

Murky and low cloud, Summerhill fog and drizzle in Wales, and Northern

Ireland, a fairly dank day, a fair bit of cloud around with drizzle and

spots of rain, but then we are into the sunshine across Scotland,

beautiful, crisp winter's day, but feeling nippy if you step out. There

are areas of cloud, sunny spells, but for much of England, the odd

writer break, and for most it will remain cloudy and damp with some

drizzle, then the rain that bit further west. Through the evening

and overnight, the rain continues to go slowly eastwards. Ahead of it,

under clearer skies, there could be some early frost, but that will be

replaced by cloud and rain coming in, temperatures up by the end of

the night. Quite a different night, for some it will be 16 degrees

higher tomorrow morning than it was this morning. Tomorrow again,

another cloudy, murky, damp day with hill fog, low cloud and all of the

rain moving out of Northern Ireland but remaining across Scotland,

England and Wales to different degrees of intensity. For Northern

Ireland, it will brighten up. Temperatures picking up as we move

further north. For Wednesday, we start off with the rain in eastern

areas, but it will tend to move away, leaving a veil of cloud behind

it. Towards the West, a return to some rain and windy conditions, and

that leads us to the end of the week. It looks like with areas of

low pressure coming our way, we will see some wet and windy weather, with

gales possibly severe gales. It's Monday, it's 10 o'clock,

I'm Victoria Derbyshire. This programme has discovered that

Aston Villa sacked a scout accused of sexually abusing boys in 1988

but did not go to police. Former professional player

Tony Brien has waived his right to anonymity to tell us he went

to the club to tell them about the abuse he was subjected

to by scout Ted Langford. I was dealing with it, and then I

got a phone call to say to me, can you really be dealing with all this,

can you be dealing with all the obscenities from the terraces? Just

sweep it underneath the carpet, I was told. More reaction to that

story after 11. Also, the petition for Donald Trump's visit to be

cancelled has reached a million signatures since it was launched at

the weekend. They comes after criticism from around the world

after restrictions on travel to the night of states.

The White House insists that immigration bans against seven

countries are not directed against Muslims.

If you were a Christian, it was tough to get into the United States,

if you were a Muslim you could come in, and I thought it was very

unfair. A free school in London

is advertising for a "school detention director" who will be

a "sergeant major in The role is being advertised

by the Michaela School in London - which bills itself as the strictest

school in Britain. Time for the latest news. Here's

Joanna. and eight others wounded -

at a Mosque in the Canadian The Canadian Prime Minister Justin

Trudeau described the incident as 'a terrorist attack

against Muslims.' President Trump has insisted that

his travel ban is not about religion, but about protecting

America. The restrictions close US borders

to all refugees for four months, and to citizens of seven

mainly-Muslim countries UK nationals with dual citizenship

will be largely unaffected, but could face extra checks

if they're travelling directly Here the last hour, a petition

calling for Donald Trump's state visit to the UK to be called off has

been backed by more than a million people.

This programme has discovered that Aston Villa sacked a scout accused

of sexually abusing boys in 1988 but did not go to police.

20 years later, that scout - Ted Langford - was jailed for sexual

offences against young boys between 1976 and 1989 -

Former professional player Tony Brien says he was abused

numerous times by Langord from the age of 12 whilst

playing for local youth team Dunlop Terriers.

Speaking to Victoria in the last few minutes,

he described it as something that will stay with him

You dream of becoming a professional footballer. You believed things that

people said to you. And I would have done anything to become a

professional footballer, but I didn't know what I was doing then

was actually wrong. Because I trusted adults.

Theresa May says she will not "shy away" from tough talks on Brexit

when she meets representatives of the devolved governments

of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland today.

The Prime Minister will chair a meeting of the Joint Ministerial

Committee in Cardiff to discuss how all parts of the UK can

work together to support trade and investment.

Last week the Supreme Court ruled that devolved assemblies cannot

Black actors have dominated the Screen Actors Guild

Denzel Washington was named the best actor for 'Fences'.

The event was notable for the outspoken criticism of

The actor Ashton Kutcher opened proceedings by welcoming

"everyone in airports" - saying they "belonged in America".

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30.

Time for the sport now with Tim. There will be two clubs in the FA

Cup fifth round. Sutton United joined another

non-league team, Lincoln City, in the hat for the fifth round draw

after beating Leeds Leeds made ten changes to their

team, and the decision by Premier League and championship teams to

feel weak and sizes been criticised by former players. Newcastle fans

travel 250 miles expecting their team to win, and he put out a

weakened team, Newcastle have one of the best teams in the championship,

six points clear with a game in hand of third place. So it is very

disappointing. Watford were another Premier League team to get knocked

out in the fourth round. They lost 1-0 at League 1 Millwall yesterday.

Another former player sat next to Alan Shearer there, Phil Neville,

thinks the number of changes made by the bigger clubs is not devaluing

the competition. Every team is making changes, not just Premier

League teams, so I think it is making the FA Cup better. Once you

get to the fifth and sixth rounds, a lot of clubs are playing at home and

making changes. We have seen so many upsets so far, it is fantastic for

the clubs, and I think it is good to see the kids play. Celtic extended

their unbeaten domestic run to a record and went 22 points clear at

the top of the Scottish Premiership. Callum McGregor opened the scoring,

Scott Sinclair scored twice and Patrick Roberts added another. That

win broke the 50-year-old unbeaten record set by Celtic's famous Lisbon

Lions team. England captain Eoin Morgan says a poor umpiring decision

in the final over cost his side victory in the second 2020 match --

second Twenty20 match against India. England needed just eight runs from

six balls when Giroud was given out lbw, although replays showed he

actually hit the ball with his bat. England eventually lost by five

runs, and the review decision for correcting mistakes made by umpires

is not in place in this series, set England had no way to challenge

this. If this was a World Cup and we lost a World Cup final, you would be

spewing. So the fact that it is not, but there is a concern, there is as

much on the line is that is in a one-day game are Test match, so

there is no reason why it shouldn't be used. Tennis, and Dan Evans is

the new British and two after his impressive run to the fourth round

of the Australian open last week. He is up to a career-high 45th, two

ahead of Kyle Edmund. Meanwhile several bookmakers have made

35-year-old Roger Federer odds-on to win another grand slam tournament

after his stunning Australian Open victory over Rafael Nadal yesterday.

Federer ended a five-year wait for his 18th major with an epic five set

win. When I heard that in Switzerland people were following

me, and I saw people just being generally really happy for me that I

won a slam again, it is a fairy tale after the comeback to combat this

week, the goal was absolutely to be playing, which is why took the six

months off and hopefully continue playing for a couple of years. What

a story, quite a player, that Roger Federer! Vitoria.

This morning, this programme has discovered that Aston Villa did not

go to the police after parents and boys raised concerns about

He was however sacked by Villa within months

20 years later, that scout, Ted Langford, admitted sexual

offences between 1976 and 1989, a year after he left the club.

This morning in an exclusive interview, former professional

player Tony Brien has waived his right to anonymity

to tell us about the abuse he was subjected to by Ted Langford

whilst at another club, and how he tried to flag concerns

about Langford whilst he worked at Villa.

I was in shock, to say the least. I asked him, could I not do this at

home, or anything like that, and he said no, it needs to be fresh. And

he said that the reason why he needed a sperm sample was so that

the Leicester City doctors could examine it to see if I had a gene

inside of me to make me become a footballer. A footballer's gene?

Yes, and being so young at that time, you believe anything.

And has been looking into the details of what happened

at Aston Villa and Leicester back in the 1980s.

Ted Langford had links to Leicester and Villa in the 1980s -

This is the only photo we could find of him.

We now know he was responsible for abusing a large

He was convicted of historic offence ten years ago and was sent to jail

And you've found out Aston Villa were aware

So we now know Langford was sacked by Villa in 1988

after they received reports of abuse.

The club's assistant manager was Dave Richardson -

he says he started hearing rumours, spoke to a number of players

and went to other senior members of staff at the club.

He says took this extremely seriously - held meetings with two

The decision was made to get rid of the scout.

But the club didn't go to the police?

No and this is a key point and says a lot about the way abuse cases

These days a club would almost certainly go straight to the police

It was a different situation back in the 1980s. There wasn't the

safeguarding in place at the clubs. Staff at Villa at the time say

they felt they couldn't go that far without getting permission

from the parents involved. And - they say - those parents

didn't want to take it any further. Dave Richardson - who went on to be

head of youth development for the Premier League told us:

"I did what I felt was right at the time for the club

and the boys who were abused. Parents told me they did not want

the matter reported to the police." But Tony Brien also

says he came forward? So Tony says he called

Dave Richardson at Aston Villa back in 1988 to tell the club he had been

abused by the scout. He also said he spoke to another

member of staff there at the time. He would have been 18 or 19

at the time so not a child. Tony feels he was put off

from going public with the abuse. We spoke to Dave Richards and at

Aston Villa. Dave Richardson at Villa

initially appeared to agree But in a later statement

he said he could not He says he would never tell a victim

of abuse not to come forward. What happened to the scout

after he was sacked? Nothing from him until he is

arrested. One of those offences took place -

we believe - in 1989. So the year after he was

sacked by Aston Villa. Langford then went to

prison and died in 2011. Aston Villa say they are considering

the safeguarding of all staff to be of paramount importance, and their

courage anyone to come forward with new reports of abuse.

It should also be pointed out that Villa was under no legal obligation

Even now, that law does not exist. Leicester have also said they will

investigate allegations of abuse if they come to light.

It's now thought this is a case the FA is looking into as part

of its inquiry into sexual abuse in football.

Thank you very much, no legal obligation but possibly a moral one.

Let's hear more from that exclusive interview with Tony Brien -

he describes his abuse in graphic detail - you may not want

Where would this abuse take place? He used to take me to a golf course,

at the back of the old school that I used to go to, a school in

Handsworth and there was a golf course at the back there. And he

used to drive up there. That's where it took place.

How did it make you feel? At the time, you would have done

anything because I thought it was right, but you know, overall the

years now, I just feel dirty and I can't explain. It's just, you would

have done anything this them days to, you know, you dream of becoming

a professional footballer. You know, you believed things that people said

to you and I would have done anything to become a professional

footballer, but I didn't know what I was doing then was actually wrong

because I trusted adults. And when at 14 you told him where to go, what

had changed? Did you know that this, that what he was doing to you was

wrong? Yeah. It's just, I knew something wasn't right and I knew

from, we used to go on trips abroad and you know kids were coming out

with love bites all over their neck and everything like that and it was

just, it was just terrible to see it. Why did he say he had to keep on

doing it? He said that my sperm hadn't come back from the doctor's

with the right results. It wasn't a test that was completed properly. It

was inconclusive? Yes. So, he would say we would have to do the test

again, but he'd leave it for a few weeks. We'd have to do the test

again. Unbelievable. Yes. This happened six or seven times over

that period of two years or so. How did he treat you after it stopped?

After you stopped him? After I stopped him, I used to always be sat

in the front of the van when we used to go to matches and I think his way

of dealing with it, he put me at the back of the van. And you told your

mum, didn't you? When I was 18, I revealed t yes, I did. How did she

react? Obviously, she was in shock. No mother likes to see her child

hurt. But she only knew about it when I'd actually reported it.

We've had lovely comments from you for Tony Brien. A texter says, "Well

done, Tony. I bet this is the tip of the iceberg and I bet that football

isn't the only sport to be tainted by these sick individuals." Julie

says, this is heartbreaking." Rebecca says, "Incredible strength."

Audrey, "Abuse of any human being is just out and out wrong. Talking is

the way forward. I applaud Tony Brien for speaking outment you were

not to blame." This texter says, "This man is amazing. I am a care

support worker and I know how people feel in difficult circumstances for

him to speak out is brave." Veronica says, "Keep going. We are all behind

you." This e-mailer, "I can understand what these guys have been

through. For many years, teacher did roughly the same as what Tony went

through. If you did what he wanted you to travel in his car to

football. For a long time the nightmares would continue until I

plucked up the courage to tell me mum." The gentleman today on your

programme are to be admired for what they are doing as I know how much it

hurts and I'm in hears as I write this. Let's hope this helps with the

future of youngsters in any sport." Thanks for those. We appreciate

them. Conservative MP Damian Collins

leads a group of MPs He has previously told us he's

concerned that claims have been brushed under the carpet

in the past. Your reaction to Tony Brien's story?

Well, incredibly powerful story. I think I salute his bravery in coming

forward and speaking about it which is not an easy thing to do. It is

concerning as this abuse in football has developed, we are seeing another

example of a club being aware of abuse or a complaint or an

allegation being made and not referring that to the authorities

and I think as part of this investigation, into abuse in

football, there has to be greater kks now to the legal obligation to

declare and report to the police incidents or allegations where abuse

has happened. Even though apparently, parents of two boys who

were abused by this scout, Ted Langford, said to the club, "I don't

want you to report it to the police." Well, I think, it is a

difficult issue. The Government is consulting on this with regard to

sporting clubs and we have to look at the abuse and say could

intervention earlier by reporting the abuser to the police have

safeguarded more of the young people in the care of those clubs? The

clubs have the responsibility for the care for the players, the young

players in their academies. They are fulfilling their dreams by playing

at the club and they trust the club and the club has to protect them.

You're right on that point, it was 20 years after Tony Brien raise the

alarm about Langford that he was convictedment one of the convictions

months after he was sacked by Villa? We would want someone out of that to

be out of circulation and face the appropriate criminal charges rather

than being allowed to continue his crimes at other clubs.

Baroness Joan Walmsley is a Liberal Democrat peer who's

campaigned for legislation to force clubs and others to report any

I mean, do you feel it is a matter of time now before the legislation

is changed? Good morning, Victoria. Well, I certainly think so. It

should happen and I hope it will because it is yet another sad day

when we have had another courageous footballer being able to come

forward and tell how adults around him let him down many years ago. And

although I think things have changed a great deal, in those days people

were concerned about their corporate reputation if anything was known

about child abuse. Now, I think it has changed and people lose their

reputation when it is found out that they don't have good child

safeguarding policies and that if something happens they don't do

something about it. Well, if things... Part of the problem is

there is no legal obligation to do something about it. You have just

told us that you think things have changed. It would be inconceivable

that a club in 2017 would not go to police if reports of abuse were made

to them. Why do we need manttry reporting? Well, we are not just

talking about football clubs and not just talking about 20 years ago. Up

until very, very recently there have been cases in situations where

people have care of children, a duty of care of children, where abuse has

taken place and people have been so scared of their reputation that they

have not come forward and told the authorities. And that's got to

change. Do you think Damien Collins it is conceivable that a club now

that, that any organisation now, if abuse was reported to them, that

they wouldn't go to the police? I think it probably is inconceivable

now. It doesn't mean to say there shouldn't be a mandatory

requirement. There is something else we have to look at in football

particularly with the independent inquiry and that's the safe spaces

that allow whistle-blowers to come forward. It is a big step for a

young player to take whose entire world admission is to become a

professional footballer and will do everything the coaches say to

realise that position to be put into a situation where they are a victim

of abuse and to have to report that to the club is difficult. We have to

look at where are the safe spaces people can come forward and bring

the allegations. FA have yet to contact anybody we have spoken to in

connection with this case. Does that tell you anything? That's

concerning. The FA might want the QCs to handle the complaints, but

the FA should respond when a complainant has come forward and

make sure their case is being considered as part of the review.

David Beckham spoke about abuse in football yesterday.

There was never anything at Manchester United and it is

disgraceful. Nothing at Manchester United, the closest part would have

been certain professionals that if we had gone out of line, they would

make us to do a funny dance in middle of the changing room, in

front of the professionals. So a degree of humiliation? That's all it

was. But that was all to teach us a lesson. There was never any

wrongdoing. Do you think that the clubs are doing enough to address

it? Do you think the FA's response has been adequate? I would like to

think that the clubs are all on board with this and I'd like to

believe that the FA are doing everything that they can to find out

about the allegations and the more these ex-professionals voice their

opinions that's when there will be change.

He has confidence in the FA, do you have confidence in the FA? The FA

set up a review that is led by someone outside of football and has

the power to investigate the allegations and to look at the

culture within football and what needs to change. I want to see that

review completed and I'm sure my committee 234 Parliament will take a

strong interest in their recommendations and how they're

implamedded. Can I ask you about another issue, your committee is

launching an inquiry into fake news. Can you stop it? Should you stop it?

Well, we're particularly interested in malicious content that is

entirely fabricated and spread online. So, for example, there was a

story from America last year, crime story, that was fake. It was shared

by over 500,000 people on Facebook and that story was said that the

police found the bodies of 19 white women in freezers, each one of them

had got marked on their skin the words, "Black lives matter."

Probably inciting hatred and dividing communities. This is highly

damaging, it is not just celebrity tittle-tattle, it is really

unpleasant stories that are presented as if we're real and

spread like wildfire across the internet. There are two things I'm

interested in, in particular, should news sources have verification tags,

in the same way that Twitter has verification tags and the other

thing is the responsibility of social media platform like Google to

derank news. Should we consider the real sources of fake news as a

similar problem? We are talking to a couple of people who write fake news

and satire, they say, you should be looking at newspapers for fake news?

Newspapers misreport of the there are the regulatory bodies for the

press and we know where they are. Action can be taken. A story can be

taken down and corrected or an apology issued. When we are talking

about fake news websites based in Macedonia or parts of the world

that's difficult to reach even when the story is known to be fake, it is

hard to stop it being disseminated online. We have to look at how we do

that, how is news presented online and how can we help inform consumers

of the news so it is easier to identify sources of news that are

likely to be false versus the legitimate sources. Thank you very

much, Damien Collins. The FA has introduced

a dedicated hotline, staffed by NSPCC professionals,

which is available 24 hours You can find a list of other

organisations that help with sexual abuse on the BBC

Action Line, bbc.co.uk/actionline. We'll bring you more reaction

to that exclusive story We will talk to people who write

fake news and satire. The editor of one of the websites tell us that

really politicians should, but utt out.

A free school in London is advertising

for a "school detention director" who will be a "sergeant major

The Canadian Prime Ted Minister described the incident as a

terrorist attack against Muslims. President Trump has insisted his

travel ban is not about religion but about protecting America. UK

nationals with dual citizenship will be largely unaffected but could face

further checks if they enter the US from one of the named countries. A

petition calling for a Donald Trump's visit to the UK has

attracted more than a million signatures.

This programme has discovered that Aston Villa sacked a scout accused

of sexually abusing boys in 1988 but did not go to police.

20 years later - that scout - Ted Langford - was jailed for sexual

offences against young boys between 1976 and 1989 -

Former professional player Tony Brien says he was abused

numerous times by Langford from the age of 12 whilst

playing for local youth team Dunlop Terriers.

Speaking to Victoria this morning, he described it as something that

will stay with him for the rest of his life.

When you dream of becoming a professional footballer, you believe

things that people say to you, and I would have done anything to become a

professional footballer, but I didn't know what I was doing then

was wrong, because I trusted adults. away" from tough talks on Brexit

when she meets representatives of The Prime Minister is chairing

a meeting in Cardiff to discuss how all parts of the UK can work

together to support Last week the Supreme Court ruled

that devolved assemblies cannot Black actors have dominated

the Screen Actors Guild Denzel Washington was named

the best actor for Fences. The event was notable

for the outspoken criticism of The actor Ashton Kutcher opened

proceedings by welcoming "everyone in airports" -

saying they "belonged in America". That's a summary of the latest news,

join me for BBC Newsroom Thank you. Here's the sport with

Tim. It was a weekend of shocks

in the FA Cup fourth round. Sutton United joined another

non-league team, Lincoln City, in the hat for the fifth round draw

after beating Leeds Several former players including

Alan Shearer have criticised Premier League and championship

teams for fielding Celtic extended their unbeaten

domestic run to a record 37 matches by beating Hearts 4-0 in the

Scottish Premiership yesterday. Their win broke 50 record

set by Lisbon Lions. England captain Eoin Morgan says

poor umpiring cost England victory in the second Twenty20

match against India. Joe Root was controversially out

in the last over as the tourists And Roger Federer says he has no

intention of retiring after winning his 18th grand

slam title yesterday. The new Australian Open champion

climb to tenth in the world rankings after his incredible victory over

Rafa Nadal in Melbourne. Downing Street have rejected calls

to cancel the proposed state visit by the US President Donald Trump

to the UK. Despite more than a million

signatures on a position to have the state visit bit cancelled, they are

not saying don't, tall, but they don't want it to be a state visit.

Number 10 say the invitation has been "issued and accepted."

Demonstrations have been taking place in cities and airports

across the United States to protest at his plans to restrict

Here's how the has unfolded over the last 48 hours.

Do you know, if you were Christian in Syria, it was impossible,

at least very, very tough, to get into the United States.

If you are a Muslim, you could come in, and I thought

It is, and as my sign says, morally wrong

It goes against everything this country stands for,

everything this country was built on.

It is un-American, it is unconstitutional.

It has to be revoked and changed and fought against.

So, should the invitation for a state visit bit withdrawn? Former

Foreign Office minister Alistair Burt is here, he thinks it should be

postponed. And Labour MP Naz Shah in Leeds says it should be stopped, and

he is an extremist. Alistair Burt, postponed until what? Postponed

until we have got over this particular period which has so

divided people. It was clear from the Prime Minister's successful

visit to Washington last week that she can have some impression upon

him. We don't know yet how President Trump will respond to people,

explain the consequences of his actions, but the bitter decision

caused by the decision he made on the travel ban after the Prime

Minister left Washington has put the context of the state visit into a

different context. But the division remains, even if he changes or

modifies this policy, that that that has happened already. And that is

true, but as everyone will tell you, there are state visit of all sorts

of people to the United Kingdom, it is part of relationship building

between the United Kingdom and other people. It is easy to demonstrate

against the United States, it is harder to demonstrate against

leaders from other places. State visits should be joyous occasions,

welcoming occasions, as much as possible, and the difficulty at the

moment is it is very hard to see if you are an official in the United

States and the United Kingdom, at the moment, that being a visit where

the tics of the visit, the reaction of the people on the streets, will

be what you would like to see. Downing Street don't agree, the

invitation is out there and has been accepted, and it goes ahead. I think

the truth of it is that is probably correct. Downing Street is not going

to withdraw an invitation, that would be terrible. Whether or not

the United States might look at the situation itself and say, there

might be a different time to do this. I am not arguing for a

complete ban, you have got to have somebody new country, he would then

be exposed to what the British press feel about it, what the public feel

about it, and who knows where we might be in one of a half or two

years' time when the negotiations were leaving the EU have reached a

particular stage, the structure conversation we need to have with

the United States trade may be in a different place, and bringing the

president of the night it to the United Kingdom so he can feel what

the relationship is of the country with him and his country is not a

bad thing in itself, but I think at the moment, the optics are they

visited to be difficult. Alistair Burt, Conservative MP, wanted to be

postponed. Naz Shah, what is your position? Good morning. I absolutely

agree that it is not a state visit, state visits are reserved for

people, statesmen and women, and I can't imagine, I don't feel that

Donald Trump deserves to be certainly addressing people on

platforms which are given to the likes of Mandela and Nobel Peace

Prize winners, because that is not rigid values and not what we are

about, and it flies in the face of everything we stand for. We have had

visits from senior Chinese officials, we have given them

invitations to Buckingham Palace, and people protested about human

rights, and the visit went ahead. Is that not what we do? It is, we have

conversations, but here is the person who is allegedly a leader of

the free world. This isn't where we are in negotiations about human

rights abuses, this is a man who is a misogynist, who is racist, who

panders to a narrative, who is divisive. If we look at the chaos he

has caused across his own assures right now, is this the kind of

person we would honour with that prestige at Buckingham Palace? And I

would agree with Alistair, absolutely not, certainly not at

this time. UN agreement with Mr Byrd, then, that it is a

postponement until something changes, until things die down a

bit, or are you saying it shouldn't be a state visit. I can't imagine Mr

Trump changing any of his rhetoric, if anything he has proved to be very

dangerous for the world over in terms of what he has done since he

has been elected and taken office. What you think of that? Do talk to

Naz Shah. I would agree, the moment we seem to be in a situation where

the president is governing as he campaigned. No one was sure whether

he would. But also we know from the visit last week that an Nato,

torture, when he understands the consequences of his words and what

he would like to do and listens to other people, there might be a

degree of change, hence my argument to say we need to know more about

this presidency. There is no fixed weight yet for the state visit, but

recognising those difficulties might be in the interests long-term of the

United Kingdom and the United States. We have been placed in a

dilemma by his recent actions, and that is tough on the Prime Minister

bearing in mind how successful she was in Washington, but there are

real difficulties with the president of he goes on governing as he has

set out. Naz Shah, do you want to respond? Yes, I hear what Alistair

is saying in terms of listening to people and the climb-down if you

like an Nato. However, this is a person whose country is having mass

protest and is not listening to the people of his very own country, and

more people voted for Hillary Clinton, so it really smacks in the

face of it is democracy in terms of what we stand for, our British

values, to have him have a state visit at all. I think we need to

listen to the people, the last count was over a million in literally

minutes we are having thousands of people signing this petition, and we

should be listening to those that elected us and that we represent in

Great Britain and this country, and that stands for British values,

democracy. We are a country that invites refugees. We have signed up

to those. It is what we do as Great Britain. We do not close our doors

to refugees and people fleeing war-torn countries. We do not help

refugees because they are Muslims, we help them because it is the right

thing to do, because they are fleeing persecution and they need

refuge. That is the purpose of it. It is nothing to do with religion,

and to bring in the Muslim ban is atrocious. Let's read a couple of

messages. Where is the counter petition for millions of us who

don't have a problem with Trump's visit? And Tina says, the keyword of

all of this is temporary. It is a sensible temporary idea intended to

tighten a vetting procedures and prevent dangerous extremists from

entering the USA. Alistair Burt, Naz Shah, thank you very much. Could

President Trump's policy increase the risk of terrorism on US soil?

Iran's Foreign Minister -- Foreign Minister has described it as a gift.

-- danger. I can see CIA operatives around the world face Parma, because

all the work they have done to build up relationships with their

counterparts, US soldiers fighting alongside Iraqis, doing all that

work to build this good relationship, and what he has done

with this one action is set that all aside and set them back many years,

and I think they also need to be aware that terrorists are not coming

over the mountains to attack us. Those people are most effective

those that are already in our societies. That is a really good

point, all the lethal acts of jihadists terrorist and United

States have been carried out by either American citizens or legal

residents, none have been the work of refugees. Yes, and what we have

seen is the Internet being used as a conduit for Isis and Al-Qaeda's

message. This plays into their rhetoric that says the US is the

great enemy, we need to attack. You are already there, go and attack the

US. So it does play into exactly what Isis and Al-Qaeda are saying

already. But Mr Trump is delivering on a campaign promise. Absolutely,

but he is using a blunt instrument which could have been used slightly

better. It could have been better explained, phased in. It is

something he has job on and I think it will do the US a great deal of

harm. Thank you very much, Chris Phillips from the National

counterterrorism Security unit. Thank you.

From California we can speak to Amin Jarbasi

Three weeks ago his wife and newborn daughter went to Iran

so she could see her grandparents for the first time and he's

incredibly anxious about whether they will be able to come

Thank you very much for talking to our British audience. Tell us about

your concerns. Basically, the problem is my wife and I are both

legal permanent residents here, and my newborn daughter is a US citizen.

The problem is it is not clear whether they can get into the

country, and at the moment, I may not be able to leave the country,

because I might be barred from re-entering. So they are in Iran

right now. When are they due to come back? The original plan was that I

would go to Iran to celebrate the Persian New Year in a months, and

then we would all come back together. But you are not going to

go now? Now it is on a limbo. I have no idea whether I can leave the

country, they have no idea whether they could leave the country. We

hear different stories, yesterday they said that the ban is applied to

green card holders, today they are saying it may not, I don't know

about tomorrow. It is confusing. Does your wife have a green card?

Yes, we both have. So what they say today is if you have a green card

you will OK. Apparently there is a waiver programme that I don't know

what it means. This is what I heard, that you have to apply, and I don't

know how to apply to that I also talked to lawyers, and they say it

is not clear, the situation. When Mr Trump says this is not about banning

Muslims, this is about protecting US citizens from extremists. What do

you say? I don't know. I actually have no idea about this statement. I

am personally very shocked about the whole procedure, about the whole

executive order, I am a Yale professor, my wife is an artist,

creating beautiful stained glasses. It is just unimaginable to me that

we cannot leave here. How is your wife? She's OK, she is

with family, and has strong family support in Iran. In terms of health

and everything, she is fine. The plan was for her to come back in a

month. The only issue now is whether that is going to happen or not. And

just to be clear, our problem might be resolved soon. She might build a

comeback, I might be able to go there. The situation is it is more

than that. It is about all the people that are trapped in airports.

There are children, mothers, who cannot join their families, it is

just heartbreaking, unbelievable to me. Thank you very much for talking

to us. Our guest was an academic Muslim as

you heard. Some of you are saying we are

promoting the petition. It is newsworthy that it reaches over one

million signatures of the that's why we showed it. Lots of you supporting

Donald Trump's policy. Gary says, "Over one million votes is not many

in a country of over 60 million. Please allow for a petition to allow

Donald Trump in to meet the Queen." Phil says, "OK for a state visit

from China." Matt says, "I find it hypocritical to prevent Donald Trump

from visiting our Queen. It was fine for Mr McGuinness, a terrorist." ."

Another viewer, "White hate reporting slash propaganda." Sue,

"Trump is sending a clear message that he will be tough on Islamist