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Hello, it's Wednesday. It's 9am.

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I'm Victoria Derbyshire. Welcome to the programme.

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This evening MPs are likely to take the historic step of voting

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to trigger the process of the UK leaving the European Union.

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It's a big day for voters, it's a big day for politicians

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and we're going to hear more of this.

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England has saved herself and will I trust save Europe and the United

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Kingdom by her example. I personally shall be voting with my

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conscience, content in this vote and when we see what unfolds here after

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as we leave the European Union, I hope the consciouses of other

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members of Parliament remain equally content.

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In an exclusive interview, we'll talk live to

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18-year-old Chelsea Cameron from Dundee who's written an open

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letter to her drug addicted mum and dad thanking them for not

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She says it made her ambitious, independent

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Her first interview, exclusively at 9.15am.

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E-mails telling you to do the right thing or snooping?

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Internet providers are contacting those of you who've downloaded

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Throughout the morning, we'll bring you the latest breaking

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We are going to talk about rail fares and how confusing the system

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is with some trips costing more if you buy different tickets.

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Operators are now planning an overhaul.

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Send us your examples of baffling fares.

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Use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged

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MPs will vote tonight on legislation that would allow the Government

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to formally start the process of leaving the European Union.

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MPs debated the issue for nearly 12 hours yesterday and will have more

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discussions today. The Government is expected to win despite opposition

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from some. Our Political Correspondent

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Chris Mason reports. Heading home into the winter's night

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after nearly 12 hours of debate. Midnight in Westminster

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with another afternoon This is a debate

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with fire and passion. In my opinion, the people

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have decided, and I'm That eight second speech best sums

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up the mood of MPs however This is a process that

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needs to be triggered. We need to do it soon and the public

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of this country expect us to do it. The new government have acted

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as though the vote in the referendum gives them carte blanche to engineer

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the most extreme kind of arrangements for

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the UK leaving the EU. She is one of a few dozen

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Labour MPs who could vote against starting Brexit,

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but ministers are confident they'll win easily because many MPs

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who passionately campaigned for Remain will support

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starting the Brexit process, even if they're irritated

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by the claims of some. Please don't mock our intelligence

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by pretending we're going to sign a suite of trade deals on day one

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of leaving the European Union. And MPs return here this morning

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to pick up where they left off. We will talk to various MPs

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throughout the programme about that. Joanna is in the BBC

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Newsroom with a summary Train operators have promised

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to overhaul what they say Trials aimed at cutting red tape,

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and making it easier for passengers to find the cheapest fares,

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will begin in May. Our business correspondent

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Ben Thompson reports. Buying train tickets is notoriously

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complicated and confusing for many and so now the government

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is to trial a new, simpler system, one that should make it easier

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to find the cheapest fares. The new trial will begin in May this

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year on trains between London, It will reduce the number

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of confusing ticket options. The rail delivery group,

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which represents train operators, says the changes will mean

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passengers are offered the best price every time regardless

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of whether they book It's quite complicated to find

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which place to buy them A wide range from ?10 to ?76

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for the journey I do. It is quite confusing to know

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which ones to take, especially like, The trial should put an end

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to what's known as split ticketing, where passengers divide

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their journey into single shorter Out of date options and discounts

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will also be removed The clearer ticket vending

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machines will never replace trained helpful members of staff,

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so we need to make sure that train companies ensure that ticket offices

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remain open and that there are staff there who can talk you through

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the different options, The train companies themselves

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have welcomed the trial, blaming government rules built up

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over decades for stopping them But critics say the trial doesn't go

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far enough after above inflation price rises came into force

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in January alongside strikes and delays affecting many parts

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of the rail network. Let's speak to Alexandra MacKenzie

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who is at King's Cross What are people there

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making of the changes? There seems to be something going

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on. We have been hearing over the tannoy that the station is being

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evacuated. So all of the exits that I can see around me, there are a lot

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of people leaving the station, but at this stage we don't quite know

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what's happening. It has just been announced that people are to leave

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the station, but we were here earlier to speak to passengers about

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the new ticketing scheme. The ticketing scheme that we have at the

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moment, it has been with us for the last 30 years and politicians and

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rail companies have said it is out dated and it is too complicated and

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it is time for a change so that's what we were asking passengers about

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here earlier. Some of them said they were quite happy with things as they

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were. Other people said no, it is way too complicated. They seem to

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have trouble knowing whether they were getting the best value for

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money or whether they knew when a ticket was peak or off-peak. The one

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main thing that they did speak to me about was the cost of tickets.

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Almost everyone said that they just felt rail travel was too expensive,

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but they did speak to me about split ticketing which most people I spoke

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to had had at least tried and I'll give you an example. If we wanted to

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go on a journey today, a return journey, from Cornwall all the way

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up to Wick, on an advanced return ticket, we would pay around ?300.

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But someone who did their research and was doing split ticketing I

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understand could get six tickets between Cornwall and Wick and they

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could pay as little as ?80 for that. So a very big difference.

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That's just one example and we'd love people to get in touch with

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their examples as well. All the usual ways of getting in touch,

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thank you. Presdent Trump has nominated

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a conservative judge, Neil Gorsuch, to fill a vacancy on the US Supreme

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Court. If confirmed, the 49-year-old

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will become the youngest person to fill the position in a quarter

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of a century. Some Democrats say they'll

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oppose him because of his attitudes Our Washington Correspondent,

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David Willis has more. In the hands of this man,

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even an appointment to the top court in the land has the feel

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of a reality TV show. Today, I'm keeping another promise

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to the American people Donald Trump had brought the top two

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contenders for the job to Washington in order to keep his prime-time TV

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audience guessing, only to tell this federal

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appeals court judge, Judge Gorsuch has outstanding legal

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skills, a brilliant mind, tremendous discipline,

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and has earned bipartisan support. At 49, Neil Gorcuch is the youngest

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nominee to the supreme court in more Standing here in a house

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of history, and acutely aware of my own imperfections,

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I pledge that if I am confirmed I will do all my powers permit

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to be a faithful servant of the constitutional laws

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of this great country. Judge Gorsuch's conservative

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ideology is closely aligned to that of the man he has been nominated

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to replace, Justice Antonin Scalia, The choice of Neil Gorsuch is a gift

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to those who voted for Donald Trump. His conservative views could tip

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the balance of the Supreme Court on such key issues as abortion,

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voting rights, and The system for recovering cash

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from overseas patients who use the NHS is "chaotic" and ministers

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should "get a grip" on the issue, The Public Accounts Committee

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is calling for more to be done by the NHS to identify and charge

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people from overseas. The Department of Health says

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the amount recovered from foreign countries has more than trebled

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in three years. Police say a 16-year-old Vietnamese

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boy has been found hiding in bushes in Dumbarton,

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after escaping from traffickers. The teenager is thought to have been

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trafficked to Russia before He was found by a member

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of the public two weeks ago. Police are appealing

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for information. That's a summary of

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the latest BBC News. Thank you very much. Let me read

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some messages from you. Thank you. On Brexit Matt on Facebook says

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"Today we get to see how many MPs from all parties put the interests

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of the European Union above the British people's decision to leave

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the European Union." And this tweet from James who is very much looking

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forward to hearing Chelsea Cameron in her first broadcast interview in

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about five minutes time. Chelsea has written an open letter to her drug

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addicted parents to thank them for effectively not being there for her

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as she was growing up. James said as someone struggling with his

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addiction this will be fascinating listening. Clearly, an old head on

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such young shoulders. We'll talk live to Chelsea in five or six

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minutes time. Do get in touch with us

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throughout the morning - use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

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and If you text, you will be charged Ryan Mason on the road to recovery.

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He fractured his skull and it looked awful. What has he been saying?

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We're glad there is a happy ending. Ryan Mason was released from

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hospital on Monday, but he released a statement for the first time to

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say that he's lucky to be alive. That he would like to thank everyone

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for their support. This was nine days ago at Stamford in a game

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between Hull and Chelsea and Ryan Mason is only 25 years old. It was a

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collision with Gary Cahill, a clattering of heads and Ryan Mason

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was stretchered off to applause at Stamford Bridge, but he then spent a

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week in St Mary's Hospital in London and that led to quite a few worrying

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moments. There were reports on the night that it might even be life

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threatening. Thank goodness that's not the case. We don't know if Ryan

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Mason will play football again, that's not been confirmed. His

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manager said that he's confident he will make that full recovery to

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actually go on and resume his career. Such an important player for

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Hull as well. He's 25 years old, an England international and he is

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their record club signing and Hull bottom of the praOk, they've sold

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Jake Livermore, I would be amazed if he plays football this season. There

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has been no official confirmation or anything to contradict that. He will

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play, but the main thing, Victoria, he's out of hospital and he made

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this statement saying that he's lucky to be alive and he's all good.

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A group of MPs who make up the sport committee want to talk to Lord Coe

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again about the Russian doping scandal. Remind us why and what are

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the odds on him turning up again? Well, yeah, they've asked Lord Coe

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to come in and speak to the Select Committee again. This is Damien

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Collins the chairman of the Select Committee and Lord Coe, you will

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remember he gave his evidence, he came and spoke to Damien Collins in

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December 2015. This was all surrounding this Russian corruption

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in athletics and at the Time Lord co said he wasn't aware of any

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corruption in the sport. Well, since then, there has been evidence that

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surfaced in a Panorama documentary last June where a former athlete,

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David Bedford said that he sent this e-mail to Lord Coe, before December

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2015, this is back this 2014, saying that he had this evidence about an

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athlete called Lilia, a Russian athlete and he had sent the

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attachments. Well, Lord Coe is saying he didn't open the attachment

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because he was on holiday abroad and he forwarded the e-mail on. So it is

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a kind of he said, she said. The Select Committee just want to know

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who said what? And they want it explaining. They want to know how

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much he knew before he had received this e-mail and of course, because

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he told the Parliamentary Select Committee that he wasn't aware of

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specific allegations. He is still saying there is no discrepancy

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between what he said then and what they know now, but Damien Collins

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says he has to come in and clear it up and saying that athletics is in a

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precarious place at the moment and it needs its leader, the President

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of IAAF Lord Coe, to come in and clear this up. Thank you very much.

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Now most of us have memories of moments when we are growing up,

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those firsts like getting exam results, prize giving,

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trips away and having your family around to be there.

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She is going to read us an open letter that she

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wrote to her parents - both drug addicts - about how

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But instead of being angry, she is grateful to them as she says

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it has made her independent, ambitious and determined

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This week her dad was sent to prison for burglary.

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Take a few minutes to listen to Chelsea,

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I know you are comfortable about that, but first of all explain a

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little to our audience about your life growing up. I had a relatively

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normal childhood growing up, that I was aware of my parents taking drugs

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and some criminal behaviour they had been involved in. My parents

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definitely loved me and still do, and care about me, but maybe not

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enough to sacrifice drugs and to prioritise us in their lives. But

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really I'm not here to go into detail about the things that

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happened negatively in their lives, I want to be a positive role model

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to other young people who are going through a similar situation. What

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kind of drugs were they using? I am aware they were taking Valium,

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possibly heroin, and other drugs they picked up on the street. What

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do you recall was unusual compared to most other parents about their

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behaviour? I think children are aware of a lot more than adults

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probably think they are sometimes they were completely incoherent or

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just not able to focus on what you were saying, slurring their words

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and things like that which was traumatic as a child. Sometimes you

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would see them fighting in the street and dealers hammering on the

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door? I saw lots of situations where my parents were in the street

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fighting with others or just other situations where maybe violence was

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brought to our home and things like that. What was that like for you? It

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was difficult as a child because naturally I love my parents and I

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still do and I know they care about me, but there were things I may be

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missed out on in my childhood that maybe my friends have opportunities

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to do. Just a little bit of normality that was missing in my

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childhood. I think you took your younger brother to his first day at

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school because your parents were not capable of doing that. Unfortunately

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my mother was not able to be there. My dad did come up with us and we

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took my little brother to school that day, but that was really a big

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step for me. I was young, maybe only 14, and my little brother went to

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his first day of school and I took him there and communicated with the

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staff and try to organise that for him, which may seem like a negative

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experience, but I am thankful for that opportunity. Me and my little

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brother have a great bond and that has developed the experiences we

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have had in our family. Would you please read our some of your letter.

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Yes, of course. Thank you. Thank you for teaching me that taking drugs

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ruins lives, breaks families apart and gives no want a quality of life

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when living. I will be eternally grateful for this lesson you have

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taught me which is a message that stuck by me to this day and always

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will. I have never and will never have a desire to take harmful

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substances through your example. Thank you for teaching me to be

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ambitious. Your example showed me that no ambition for education or

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success is harmful and leads to a lot of self worth. Life is all about

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choices and I did not need to make the same ones you did. Remember that

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time we forced dad into watching Hannah Montana, but there is a lying

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in one of the songs that says, life is what you make it, so let's make

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it rock. Life has turned out for me what I have chosen to make it. You

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both can make your lives rock as you make your chances. Thank you for

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making me not easily embarrassed. You have both made choices,

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sometimes very public, allowing everyone I associate to know what

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you are like. That has given me the opportunity to speak freely and

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openly about how I am and how my life has been growing up. In school

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I try to have an all clear ego that an altar ego. I made myself

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something that I was not associating with the harsh truth of our lives.

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The thing that kept me sane was thinking people did not know the

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truth. They probably did, but I brainwash myself into thinking that

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they did not. Thank you for teaching me that life is unfair, people

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disappoint you and there is nothing you can do about that. Thank you for

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not being there to wave goodbye as I jetted off to Uganda on a trip of a

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lifetime. Thank you for not being there when I got my first exam

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results to say well done. Thank you for not being there when I got the

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position of head girl. Thank you for not being there when I stood in

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front of hundreds of people to speak at my prizegiving. You have given me

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the greatest lesson of how to be independent. You have both allowed

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me to be a more patient and tolerant person that I could have ever

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imagined. Dad, I see you off, but I hope you have a greater insight into

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the type of person I am. Mum, I hope you are well and I hope you are a

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bit better now. I hope you know I am trying to be a good person. I hope

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one day you will wake up and realise there is so much more that the world

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has to offer you and when that day comes, please come to find me so we

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can enjoy live together. I will show you some nice restaurants and if you

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are lucky I will take you to Germany one day. Until then I will dream of

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what my life might be like with parents to enjoy it with. Wow, that

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is really powerful and very moving. What is upsetting is to say life is

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not sunshine and rainbows. We know that, but you know it at such a

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young age and that makes me very sad. There are lots of negative

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things that come into people's lives possibly not through their own

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circumstances. What I wanted to do was to allow people to see that they

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could choose positivity, no matter what circumstances they were in, and

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have joined in their life no matter what circumstances are. Society

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tells you if you parents live a certain way, or if you live a

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certain lifestyle, it is destined that you live like that. My hope is

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to show other young people that they can choose exactly what they want

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their life to be. They can choose joy, happiness and positivity, no

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matter what the circumstances. What kind of a response you have had? I

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have had incredible responses. So many people in similar situations

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have said, this has helped me, it has made me know that it is OK to

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talk about how you feel, not to bottle it up and to know they do not

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have to fall into that pathway. Not just with drugs, a lot of people

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have contacted me with any negative situation they have had in their

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lives and it has made them realise that you can choose to be positive.

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Because a negative has happened in your life, that does not determine

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your attitude, you can be positive and continue to be happy. Is it

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young people, kids, middle aged people contacting you? I have had a

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lot of different people, a lot of young people and older people who

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may be did not know my circumstances before or who had known my parents.

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They had reached out to support me and allowed me to know that I have

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helped someone by showing them the letter as well, which was my desire.

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You talk about the period of time when you were younger when you felt

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you had to hide what was going on at home. As a young person you are very

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easily embarrassed and you want to try and be this person that seems

:24:41.:24:46.

perfect and your life is perfect and everything flows nicely and no one

:24:47.:24:48.

needs to know anything negative about your life. I kept that persona

:24:49.:24:55.

for a long time and I bottled it up. I felt like I wanted to shed the

:24:56.:25:00.

letter because it was time for me to speak about how I feel and to tell

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others that it is time for them to speak about how they feel as well.

:25:05.:25:09.

Although I do not know them, I can support them and they can come to me

:25:10.:25:13.

for any advice as a friend and supporter. At 14, in the middle of

:25:14.:25:19.

high school, you stopped living with your parents. Where did you go? I

:25:20.:25:24.

lived with various family members and friends. That was on the

:25:25.:25:29.

recommendation of social workers? Yes. What did they say? They said my

:25:30.:25:37.

dad was not able to care for us any more. He was in a bad place with his

:25:38.:25:41.

difficulties and it was the best for my brother and I to move away from

:25:42.:25:48.

that. I have had continuous support from family and friends who have

:25:49.:25:52.

taken me in and show me a level of care that was not necessary for them

:25:53.:25:57.

to give me, that my parents would have given me, but they have

:25:58.:26:00.

continued to support me and I am extremely grateful for it. This is

:26:01.:26:10.

not an angry letter. You are not publicly shaming your parents. You

:26:11.:26:16.

mean it. This is thank you. I am absolutely not here to criticise my

:26:17.:26:22.

parents or to put shame upon them. As I have said, I want other young

:26:23.:26:27.

people to know that they are not alone. There are other people facing

:26:28.:26:32.

these difficulties and to try and have a positive spin on things. We

:26:33.:26:37.

live in a society that is full of negativity and chaos and lots of

:26:38.:26:42.

trouble going on. When we get to a place in our lives where we can

:26:43.:26:46.

choose to be positive and happy, it is the best thing for our own

:26:47.:26:51.

well-being. How do you think you have achieved exam success, becoming

:26:52.:26:58.

head girl? The trip to Uganda was so important to you, how have you done

:26:59.:27:04.

it? I have had so much support from other friends, teachers and family

:27:05.:27:08.

members that have really allowed me to choose to go down that path.

:27:09.:27:14.

Opportunities are coming my way, the opportunity to be the head girl, to

:27:15.:27:19.

try hard at school, to have the opportunity to go to Uganda, and I

:27:20.:27:24.

grabbed those opportunities with both hands and I did things that

:27:25.:27:30.

will enrich my life hopefully. Your mum, who you have not spoken to for

:27:31.:27:34.

over a year, has given a quote to the Daily Mail today. Is it OK if I

:27:35.:27:42.

read it? Yes, that is fine. No child should go through what Chelsea did

:27:43.:27:47.

and live that kind of life. I am ashamed and upset that my behaviour

:27:48.:27:51.

and I am so sorry. I am so proud of her. It is nice to hear that

:27:52.:27:58.

response from my mum and I will continue to love and support my

:27:59.:28:03.

parents. They have not made the best choices, but everyone makes bad

:28:04.:28:07.

choices and I want them to know that I am there for them if they want to

:28:08.:28:12.

reach out to me. I will be involved in their lives as much as I can.

:28:13.:28:16.

What was your reaction when your dad was jailed this week? I was not

:28:17.:28:22.

surprised, but we have a great relationship, I get on with him very

:28:23.:28:26.

well and I will continue to support him my whole life for anything that

:28:27.:28:31.

he needs. These are messages from our audience, may I read them? Yes.

:28:32.:28:37.

Chris says, what an inspirational young women. Ian says, what an

:28:38.:28:44.

amazing young woman Chelsea Cameron is after such a troubled childhood.

:28:45.:28:48.

Good luck to her in her future. A lovely lady. Chuck says, Chelsea is

:28:49.:28:55.

an exceptional lady. Bolivia, what an inspirational and incredible

:28:56.:28:58.

girl, and she has chosen the life she wants to live. Mehdi says, well

:28:59.:29:06.

done young lady. Clare says, wow, what an incredible young woman, she

:29:07.:29:10.

will go far. Ellie says this on Twitter, I am listening now, what an

:29:11.:29:16.

inspiration. Thank you very much. It is true. Thank you. Do you forgive

:29:17.:29:24.

your parents? Absolutely, absolutely. No matter the choices

:29:25.:29:30.

they make, I continue to forgive them. I am thankful for the

:29:31.:29:35.

opportunities they have given me to become an independent person, to

:29:36.:29:39.

choose good pathways. Maybe if my childhood was different, I would not

:29:40.:29:43.

have had the opportunities I have now to be independent and ambitious

:29:44.:29:48.

and to have the drive I have. I will be eternally grateful for that. You

:29:49.:29:53.

are only a teenager, do you know what you want to do? Not entirely,

:29:54.:29:58.

see what opportunities come my way, I guess. I wish you lots of luck.

:29:59.:30:04.

Thank you for talking to us. Thank you. If you want to get in touch

:30:05.:30:10.

with Chelsea Cameron and us, you can send us an e-mail.

:30:11.:30:14.

This evening MPs will vote on the bill that would allow

:30:15.:30:19.

Theresa May to trigger Article 50 and formally notify the EU

:30:20.:30:22.

We'll be speaking to three MPs here in the studio.

:30:23.:30:28.

Some internet providers are warning customers their illegal

:30:29.:30:30.

It's a controversial move and some experts believe

:30:31.:30:38.

it has come too late to be an effective deterrent.

:30:39.:30:46.

We'll talk about that in the next hour as well.

:30:47.:30:51.

In the BBC Newsroom here's a summary of today's news.

:30:52.:30:56.

MPs will today vote on legislation that would allow the Government

:30:57.:30:59.

to trigger Article 50, starting the process

:31:00.:31:00.

It would see the start of two years of formal negotiations

:31:01.:31:04.

The Government is expected to win the vote, despite opposition

:31:05.:31:08.

Train operators have promised to overhaul what they say

:31:09.:31:14.

Trials aimed at making it easier for passengers to find the cheapest

:31:15.:31:20.

The first routes affected will include CrossCountry,

:31:21.:31:25.

Virgin Trains' east and west coast services and East Midlands.

:31:26.:31:28.

Donald Trump has nominated a conservative judge from Colorado,

:31:29.:31:31.

Neil Gorsuch, to fill a vacancy on the US Supreme Court.

:31:32.:31:33.

If confirmed, the 49-year-old will become the youngest person

:31:34.:31:35.

to fill the position in a quarter of a century.

:31:36.:31:39.

Some Democrats have said they will oppose the choice.

:31:40.:31:43.

David Cameron tried to have the editor of the Daily Mail

:31:44.:31:46.

sacked during last year's EU referendum campaign,

:31:47.:31:48.

The paper's owner said the former Prime Minister had asked him

:31:49.:31:53.

to "rein in" or dismiss Paul Dacre, who was strongly pro-Brexit.

:31:54.:31:56.

A spokesman for Mr Cameron said he "did not believe

:31:57.:32:00.

he could determine who edited the Daily Mail."

:32:01.:32:04.

The leader of France's National Front party, Marine Le Pen,

:32:05.:32:10.

could have her MEP's salary cut in half today as a punishment

:32:11.:32:13.

The European Parliament had given her until midnight to return

:32:14.:32:17.

?250,000 it says she mis-spent on the salary of a party official.

:32:18.:32:20.

Ms Le Pen says she won't give the money back.

:32:21.:32:22.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:32:23.:32:24.

I cannot tell you how many messages we've got for Chelsea Cameron. Alice

:32:25.:32:35.

says, "I'm blown away by Chelsea's mindset. What an inspiration."

:32:36.:32:42.

Maggie, "A an amazing young woman with great coping mechanisms. "

:32:43.:32:48.

Bernadette says, "OMG, what a wonderful and beautiful attitude to

:32:49.:32:52.

life." Stevie says, "You've got me welling up at my desk at work. James

:32:53.:32:58.

says, "Choice. The heart of it all. So moving a testimony. I'm looking

:32:59.:33:04.

in the mirror long and hard." Another viewer says, "Please hug

:33:05.:33:09.

this girl. She is amazing." Another viewer says, "Day time TV never

:33:10.:33:15.

makes me cry." ." Another viewer says, "Thank you, Chelsea, you

:33:16.:33:20.

reminded me at 57 to make good life choices." We did hug!

:33:21.:33:26.

Here's some sport now with Will Perry.

:33:27.:33:27.

Chelsea have extended their lead at the top of the Premier League

:33:28.:33:32.

David Luiz put them ahead at Anfield and although Liverpool equalised

:33:33.:33:39.

and Chelsea missed a penalty, but Antonio Conte's side

:33:40.:33:42.

are now nine points clear after their closest rivals stumbled.

:33:43.:33:45.

Hull City's Ryan Mason said he was "lucky to be alive"

:33:46.:33:47.

Mason fractured his skull in a challenge with Chelsea

:33:48.:33:51.

He has thanked everyone for the "overwhelming support" given

:33:52.:33:57.

England's cricketers will be looking to finish a disappointing winter

:33:58.:34:01.

Their last hope of a series win lies with the final T20

:34:02.:34:09.

in Bangalore after they lost the Test

:34:10.:34:11.

Lord Coe has been asked to meet MPs again after e-mails seem

:34:12.:34:17.

to confirm he did know the details of doping allegations

:34:18.:34:19.

in athletics, four months before they became public.

:34:20.:34:21.

Coe says he was not aware of the specifics.

:34:22.:34:23.

The Brexit debate will carry on in the Commons this afternoon,

:34:24.:34:31.

after a late-night session where MPs delivered passionately held views

:34:32.:34:34.

And tonight they will vote on the legislation giving

:34:35.:34:40.

the Government the go-ahead to trigger Article 50.

:34:41.:34:42.

The Bill is expected to pass this test in spite

:34:43.:34:45.

of opposition from the SNP, the Liberal Democrats

:34:46.:34:46.

Norman Smith joins us now outside Parliament.

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That's a question I put to one leading anti-Brexit campaigner and

:34:53.:35:04.

he said we are going to lose. The people opposed to Brexit are going

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to lose. If you want to boil it down to one basic reason, it is because

:35:09.:35:12.

most of them, the overwhelming majority of them accept the result

:35:13.:35:15.

of the referendum. They may not like it. In fact, they don't like it, but

:35:16.:35:19.

they accept the people have spoken. So, yes, there will be plenty of

:35:20.:35:24.

arguments still over the details, whether we're in the single market,

:35:25.:35:28.

what sort of immigration rules we have, whether MPs should have a vote

:35:29.:35:34.

before Mrs May agrees a deal, but on the fundamental question - Mrs May

:35:35.:35:38.

wins and MPs tonight will vote to begin the process of leaving the EU.

:35:39.:35:47.

So I am the breaks tiers are on a roll. Some were comparing it to

:35:48.:35:55.

Henry the fifth's speech to British troops to the Battle of Waterloo.

:35:56.:36:02.

Have a listen... The instruction of the British people have to be

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carried out. That's what we will do. If I may say once again those famous

:36:07.:36:18.

words of William Pitt England has saved herself and will I trust save

:36:19.:36:24.

Europe and the United Kingdom by her example.

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And all those many good things that Europe, we are told, has given us,

:36:30.:36:34.

the great news is, we can decide to keep them for ourselves! All those

:36:35.:36:39.

good laws we will keep. All those employment protections, we will

:36:40.:36:43.

agree to continue. And the day that we leave the European Union, it will

:36:44.:36:49.

be a great day. Stirring stuff. I don't think I have seen John Redwood

:36:50.:36:53.

getting so animated, but contrast that with Ken Clarke, the only Tory

:36:54.:36:59.

who is going to vote against triggering this Bill beginning our

:37:00.:37:03.

departure from the EU. Now he was actually applauded at the end by

:37:04.:37:07.

some Opposition MPs, but have a look at the two Tory sitting behind him

:37:08.:37:15.

sort of indifference. I personally shall be voting with my conscience

:37:16.:37:20.

content in this vote and when we see what unfolds here after as we leave

:37:21.:37:24.

the European Union, I hope the consciences of other members of

:37:25.:37:31.

Parliament remain equally content. So Mr Clarke the only Conservative

:37:32.:37:34.

who is going to vote against this. What about the Labour Party? Well,

:37:35.:37:41.

Vic, you'd like to say it is a car crash, but it is worse than a car

:37:42.:37:45.

crash. You'd have to look away. The blunt truth is Labour are split from

:37:46.:37:49.

top to bottom on the issue of Europe from the Shadow Cabinet, through the

:37:50.:37:54.

Parliamentary party through the constituency parties and through

:37:55.:37:57.

ordinary Labour voters and it is not something you can blame Jeremy

:37:58.:38:01.

Corbyn for. It is much more profound and it is hard to see how the two

:38:02.:38:05.

sides can mesh together again and you know yesterday in the Commons

:38:06.:38:08.

there were Labour MPs sniping at each other. I've got a couple here.

:38:09.:38:13.

First, Kate Howey having a go at those of her colleagues who were

:38:14.:38:16.

sort of deriding people who voted for Brexit on the ground they didn't

:38:17.:38:20.

really understand the issues. Take a look. People didn't know what they

:38:21.:38:25.

were voting for. They voted to leave, but they didn't know what

:38:26.:38:28.

that meant. They didn't understand it. It really is patronising and it

:38:29.:38:34.

is part of the reason why so many people voted to leave, that they

:38:35.:38:39.

were fed-up being treated as if they knew nothing and that those in power

:38:40.:38:44.

knew more than them. It's not clear whether the Prime

:38:45.:38:47.

Minister frightened the European Commission by her threat to

:38:48.:38:52.

devastate our tax base and in consequence all our public services,

:38:53.:38:57.

but she successfully frightened me. I do not believe, not for one

:38:58.:39:01.

second, that that is what the British people thought they were

:39:02.:39:07.

voting for. So, for now, Mrs May's plans for Brexit are on course. The

:39:08.:39:12.

only other thing I would say Vic, this place often, you know people

:39:13.:39:17.

view it as dull and dreary. Actually yesterday, you know, it was at its

:39:18.:39:21.

best. We had really passionate convincing speeches on both sides

:39:22.:39:25.

and you know, if you want to take a look at the best of Parliament then

:39:26.:39:28.

I would suggest maybe having a look at the debates today because it's

:39:29.:39:31.

quite stirring stuff. Cheers, Norman.

:39:32.:39:41.

Earlier I spoke with Labour's Shadow Foreign Secretary

:39:42.:39:43.

and former Brexit Secretary Emily Thornberry.

:39:44.:39:45.

She told this programme the party's stance on Brexit

:39:46.:39:47.

We campaigned to remain in the European Union.

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But the referendum was a serious thing.

:39:52.:39:56.

We asked people to make up their minds what they wanted

:39:57.:39:58.

to do and they decided that we had to leave.

:39:59.:40:01.

And so, you know, we are internationalists and we like Europe

:40:02.:40:03.

but we are Democrats, more than anything else.

:40:04.:40:05.

And so we have our instructions from the British public

:40:06.:40:08.

and we're going to leave the European Union but,

:40:09.:40:11.

you know, not necessarily the way the Tories want to.

:40:12.:40:13.

The Tories have got a whole bunch of contradictory ideas

:40:14.:40:16.

about what it is that they see as our future in Europe, the worst

:40:17.:40:19.

one being that they will go for low taxes, deregulation,

:40:20.:40:22.

getting rid of people's rights, getting rid of environmental

:40:23.:40:25.

So we will be fighting them all the way in order to make sure

:40:26.:40:32.

that we get the sort of economy at the end of this that maximises

:40:33.:40:35.

Do you understand your Labour colleagues who say, look,

:40:36.:40:40.

my constituency voted to remain in the European Union, I am

:40:41.:40:44.

going to do what my constituency, what my voters want to do,

:40:45.:40:47.

so I'm going to vote against triggering Article 50 today?

:40:48.:40:49.

Listen, 75% of my constituents voted to remain in the European Union.

:40:50.:40:56.

As a national party you don't pick one side or another,

:40:57.:41:05.

you speak on behalf of the whole nation.

:41:06.:41:07.

And kind of weirdly, like, the contradiction

:41:08.:41:09.

within the Labour Party, the fact that we have people

:41:10.:41:11.

who want to stay and we have people who want to go actually,

:41:12.:41:14.

And it's up to us to step up and say OK, we're leaving but let's make

:41:15.:41:19.

sure that we get the best possible deal because we don't trust

:41:20.:41:22.

What will happen to those Labour MPs who vote against the majority,

:41:23.:41:27.

the will of the people, and vote against their boss, Jeremy Corbyn?

:41:28.:41:30.

Well, I think those who are in front bench positions will have to stand

:41:31.:41:34.

down because the Labour Party, we have had many, many discussions.

:41:35.:41:36.

We've come to this decision together.

:41:37.:41:38.

Are you expecting to lose more frontbenchers then?

:41:39.:41:40.

Well, who knows? I'm not making any predictions.

:41:41.:41:43.

I mean, I've had lots of conversations, I do understand,

:41:44.:41:49.

I completely respect where people are coming from and I'm sure

:41:50.:41:51.

But it is in our country's interest that the opposition does not

:41:52.:41:57.

turn its back on democracy, that we go ahead with

:41:58.:42:01.

But we've got to help the Government, to make sure we get

:42:02.:42:07.

What do you say to those who say it's a bit rich Jeremy Corbyn

:42:08.:42:11.

with this three line whip because how many times did he vote

:42:12.:42:14.

He's well aware of that. He's well aware of that.

:42:15.:42:19.

He's aware of it, what does he say? Is he not a hypocrite?

:42:20.:42:22.

He's not a hypocrite, he's now leading a national party

:42:23.:42:24.

and we have a national position that we've come to collectively

:42:25.:42:27.

and that's the decision and we're going ahead with it.

:42:28.:42:31.

Let us talk now to conservative MP Kwasi Kwarteng who voted to leave

:42:32.:42:34.

the EU and who will vote for triggering Article 50 tonight,

:42:35.:42:37.

and Labour MP Heidi Alexander who voted to remain in the EU and,

:42:38.:42:40.

despite orders from Jeremy Corbyn, will rebel and vote

:42:41.:42:42.

Why? Well, I actually think that we have to take this decision in what

:42:43.:42:56.

each individual believes to be the national economic interest. Your

:42:57.:42:59.

boss doesn't think that though? What Jeremy Corbyn thinks, what the

:43:00.:43:04.

whipping arrangements for me is not as important as what my conscience

:43:05.:43:08.

tells me and what I think is best for the country. Every MP... What's

:43:09.:43:12.

going to happen to you after you have rebelled? I am a backbench MP.

:43:13.:43:19.

I need to look at what the big key issues are. I don't think that when

:43:20.:43:26.

people voted last year to leave the European Union that they were voting

:43:27.:43:29.

on the issue of coming out of the single market. Are you expecting a

:43:30.:43:34.

lot of vitriol online after your vote tonight or not? I haven't had

:43:35.:43:39.

much so far to be honest. I experienced a lot of vitriol last

:43:40.:43:44.

summer when I decided to resign from the Shadow Cabinet as the Shadow

:43:45.:43:47.

Health Secretary. What I'm doing is what I believe to be in the national

:43:48.:43:50.

economic interest and I think that there is a fundamental question

:43:51.:43:55.

about democracy here as well, democracy didn't start or end on

:43:56.:44:00.

23rd June. If I can just finish this point. Sorry, go on. It is

:44:01.:44:05.

important. In the Conservative manifesto, page 72 reads that a

:44:06.:44:09.

Conservative Government would safeguard British interests in the

:44:10.:44:15.

single market. The word, "Single market" Weren't on the ballot paper

:44:16.:44:19.

in the referendum on 23rd June and then we have a Prime Minister where

:44:20.:44:23.

No vote has been cast about her becoming the leader of the Tory

:44:24.:44:28.

Party, determining what Brexit looks like and I actually think that more

:44:29.:44:33.

people than just the Prime Minister, should be involved in having a say

:44:34.:44:37.

about what that looks like. Well, she had a big statement there and I

:44:38.:44:42.

know lots of things that she said and I disagree. Firstly, you

:44:43.:44:45.

accepted the referendum. You voted for a referendum as I understand.

:44:46.:44:48.

What's the point in having a referendum if you ignore the result?

:44:49.:44:52.

It is not some sort of advisory committee. It's 33 million people

:44:53.:44:58.

casting a vote. There was a clear decisive result and all this

:44:59.:45:01.

triggering of Arle 50 is implementing the result of that

:45:02.:45:05.

vote. Now, I understand in your constituency, the majority of people

:45:06.:45:09.

voted to remain. So I do understand that, but I think once you've

:45:10.:45:13.

committed to a referendum, you as a politician, you should honour the

:45:14.:45:16.

result. I mean, Ken Clarke is in a very good position because he didn't

:45:17.:45:18.

want a referendum and he voted against it. You voted for it.

:45:19.:45:25.

There were circumstances under which I could have voted to trigger

:45:26.:45:31.

Article 50, but Theresa May took that option off the table for me

:45:32.:45:35.

when she made that speech in Lancaster House. What if no good

:45:36.:45:42.

deal is reached? We are out the single market. I do not understand

:45:43.:45:47.

what it means to leave the EU and be in the single market. People talk

:45:48.:45:52.

the Norwegian arrangement, in that instance you do not have any control

:45:53.:45:57.

over freedom of movement. You have to accept it. We are subjected to

:45:58.:46:03.

World Trade Organisation tariffs, import licences, customs checks, a

:46:04.:46:08.

whole load of bureaucracy, not to mention the tariffs. The tariffs are

:46:09.:46:16.

quite low. They are not free. Most of it will be eliminated through

:46:17.:46:20.

currency fluctuations. You make it sound so simple. It is simple,

:46:21.:46:25.

people are trying to complicate things. David Cameron appeared on

:46:26.:46:31.

the Andrew Marr show when he was Prime Minister, do you remember?

:46:32.:46:35.

Yes, I do remember. A lot has happened. They were trying to

:46:36.:46:40.

frighten the wits out of people that if we voted to leave the EU, we

:46:41.:46:45.

would leave the single market and he said that on more than one occasion.

:46:46.:46:50.

People were not frightened by their threats and George Osborne's

:46:51.:46:53.

punishment budget and they were clear eyed and voted to leave.

:46:54.:46:57.

Colleagues of yours to do the airwaves... I don't remember. They

:46:58.:47:04.

did. Owen Paterson said only a madman would leave the single

:47:05.:47:08.

market. He was not head of the campaign. If you allow me to finish.

:47:09.:47:15.

We had Nigel Farage who the broadcasters could not get off the

:47:16.:47:19.

television. He was claiming that countries such as Norway do pretty

:47:20.:47:24.

well outside of the European Union. The debate that led up to the

:47:25.:47:28.

referendum was misleading and sometimes toxic. It inflamed the

:47:29.:47:33.

situation rather than informed people. I respect the result of the

:47:34.:47:44.

referendum, but I do not respect... You do not respect it enough to

:47:45.:47:48.

trigger article 15. You could argue that people have already voted to

:47:49.:47:53.

trigger Article 50. There were circumstances under which I could

:47:54.:47:57.

have voted to trigger Article 50. When Theresa May said she was

:47:58.:48:01.

pulling as out of the single market, when she said she was prioritising

:48:02.:48:06.

reducing immigration over our national economic interests, and

:48:07.:48:10.

when she threatened our closest geographical neighbours with in

:48:11.:48:13.

effect a trade war, I was ashamed of what the British Prime Minister said

:48:14.:48:18.

on that day. Do you think the public should have a say on the final deal?

:48:19.:48:24.

It depends what the final deal is? Why does it depend on that? There is

:48:25.:48:31.

not a deal, there is nothing to vote for. I think we are getting ahead of

:48:32.:48:36.

ourselves. I am not frightened of a second referendum. If Theresa May

:48:37.:48:41.

comes back with what she and you considered to be a good deal, that

:48:42.:48:46.

should be put to the people? It will be put to Parliament. What about the

:48:47.:48:53.

people? I am not sure, I do not think that is necessary. They should

:48:54.:48:58.

not have a say? Let's see what the deal is. It may well be that people

:48:59.:49:04.

want to decide. It is not up to me. Either way, I think we are leaving

:49:05.:49:09.

the EU, I think the people who want to stay in the EU are deluded if

:49:10.:49:13.

they think a second referendum will overturn the result of the first

:49:14.:49:18.

one. I was not suggesting that, but do you think the public should have

:49:19.:49:21.

a final say on the deal that Theresa May comes back with? At the very

:49:22.:49:26.

least members of Parliament should have a meaningful vote on that. What

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about the public? Yes, I do. On Monday we're holding

:49:29.:49:34.

a special programme looking We'll be looking at the problems

:49:35.:49:37.

it's facing and asking If you work in the NHS, a doctor,

:49:38.:49:41.

a nurse or a consultant, or you're a patient with recent

:49:42.:49:52.

experience, we'd love you to take It's in central London

:49:53.:49:55.

on Monday February 6th. to register your interest and one

:49:56.:49:58.

of our team will be in touch. If you're watching TV

:49:59.:50:05.

on your laptop, or a film in the cinema or buying music online

:50:06.:50:08.

you'll be familiar So if you choose to ignore that

:50:09.:50:10.

warning and continue to download your favourite TV series

:50:11.:50:55.

illegally or share music without paying for it,

:50:56.:50:58.

you can now expect to receive an e-mail detailing what you're

:50:59.:51:01.

up to, in the hope it It's part of the government's

:51:02.:51:06.

attempt to crack down on piracy. This scheme purely focuses on people

:51:07.:51:12.

sharing files from one The idea is that people

:51:13.:51:14.

will change their habits if they know their activity

:51:15.:51:20.

is being monitored by the big internet providers like BT,

:51:21.:51:25.

Virgin Media, TalkTalk and Sky. Let's talk now to John Carr,

:51:26.:51:30.

who is a member of the UK Council He advises the government

:51:31.:51:34.

about children's use And Marianne Grant,

:51:35.:51:36.

Motion Picture Association's They both feel these "educational

:51:37.:51:41.

e-mails" will crack-down on piracy. And Mark Chapman from

:51:42.:51:46.

The Pirate Party who does Why not? Because, firstly, how many

:51:47.:52:01.

people when you receive an e-mail from your Internet service provider

:52:02.:52:05.

does not go into your deleted folder? The idea that people do not

:52:06.:52:10.

know that what they are doing is illegal, that these educational

:52:11.:52:14.

e-mails are giving them information about alternative providers that

:52:15.:52:19.

they can use, legal streaming services, the idea that people do

:52:20.:52:22.

not know that they already exist is ludicrous. Why do people infringe

:52:23.:52:29.

copyright and download movies and films illegally? The idea that

:52:30.:52:35.

piracy is about theft is one of the more misjudged ideas. Internet

:52:36.:52:41.

piracy tends to be about access. Ofcom said that for every ?16 that

:52:42.:52:52.

normal users pay for use, digital download pirates pay ?26. They are

:52:53.:52:59.

positive to the creative arts. Why do people do it? Because they want

:53:00.:53:03.

to watch the latest film as soon as it has happened. If it is a US

:53:04.:53:08.

release of a new series and it is not out in the UK, they will do it?

:53:09.:53:14.

Explain to mark what that costs the film industry and how much this is

:53:15.:53:20.

an issue for the film industry. It is a huge issue for the film

:53:21.:53:24.

industry, not just music and games and other parts of the industry.

:53:25.:53:32.

Music, 150- ?200 million in a year is lost to piracy. About the same

:53:33.:53:36.

amount of money is spent in making new music. Literally the music

:53:37.:53:41.

industry could be doing twice as much as what it does with new

:53:42.:53:46.

artists if it was not losing that money. That is an example in real

:53:47.:53:53.

terms. In your analogy, maybe I could correct a couple of things.

:53:54.:53:59.

First of all, e-mails are triggered by people sharing files online, but

:54:00.:54:03.

they do not just talk about file sharing. Secondly, if the Internet

:54:04.:54:10.

service providers are not honouring people on their networks, the

:54:11.:54:15.

copyright holders will send notices. And they send the e-mail to the

:54:16.:54:20.

user. We do not want people to feel that their activity online is being

:54:21.:54:26.

looked at. If you got an e-mail saying, we notice you have been

:54:27.:54:29.

sharing this file illegally, would you stop doing it? I would. I would

:54:30.:54:37.

not do in the place. You can see the point I am making? We are doing more

:54:38.:54:43.

than that. We can say, there are consequences to your behaviour and

:54:44.:54:46.

some of those are a loss to the industry, but it is also a loss of

:54:47.:54:51.

jobs, a loss to the innovators and the creators trying to make

:54:52.:54:56.

something. It is the time people invest in making what they do. Last

:54:57.:55:03.

night, at the Costa book awards happened and I heard the winner this

:55:04.:55:09.

morning and he said, it took him 50 years to plan the book. He said it

:55:10.:55:16.

had been in his head for 50 years. That is what we are dealing with.

:55:17.:55:21.

Everyone is a fan of something, so when everyone understands that

:55:22.:55:24.

better, which is what we want to say with these e-mails, they say, I did

:55:25.:55:32.

not think about it that way. In some cases it is theft. John Carr, it is

:55:33.:55:38.

not clear to me how many e-mails you will need to get before some

:55:39.:55:42.

sanction is imposed. Are there any sanctions or is it just hope people

:55:43.:55:47.

will change their behaviour? As far as I am aware it is about drawing

:55:48.:55:52.

attention to people that they are breaking the law. A lot of parents

:55:53.:55:57.

who are the account holders in these situations have no idea that their

:55:58.:56:01.

kids are up to this kind of thing and what they are doing is unlawful.

:56:02.:56:07.

I hope these e-mails will trigger a conversation between parents and

:56:08.:56:11.

their children who might be ripping off films, music or whatever. There

:56:12.:56:16.

are two reasons why I am interested in this as a child protection

:56:17.:56:23.

person. One is it is a very bad idea for young people to be encouraged to

:56:24.:56:26.

believe to think that stealing or behaving unlawfully is permissible

:56:27.:56:32.

or is cool, or is something you can get away very easily with. Secondly,

:56:33.:56:38.

some of these piracy websites that kids are going to our awful and

:56:39.:56:42.

disgusting places, full of adverts for prostitution, drugs, we just do

:56:43.:56:47.

not want young people going to these places to begin with. A question

:56:48.:56:54.

from Hugh who is watching, please clarify the difference between

:56:55.:56:57.

downloading and streaming? Are they both illegal? They can be, it

:56:58.:57:03.

depends from where you are streaming in from. It is the source of the

:57:04.:57:10.

content. There are lots of legal places to stream from and legal apps

:57:11.:57:15.

that you can be using on your tablet and phone, but there are illegal

:57:16.:57:18.

ones because the content is not licensed. Do you accept the point

:57:19.:57:23.

there will be parents who will not know what their child is doing and

:57:24.:57:28.

it might be illegal and it would be useful for the parents to get one of

:57:29.:57:33.

these e-mails? I accept there are parents who do not know what

:57:34.:57:36.

children are doing on the Internet and it is a big issue that society

:57:37.:57:41.

has not yet tackled properly. The fact you are targeting some parents

:57:42.:57:45.

in this, but not all, that is a conversation we should be having

:57:46.:57:49.

just wider than the people who these e-mails are going to. Which is why

:57:50.:57:54.

we have the rest of the campaign which has been running for over a

:57:55.:57:59.

year, so we are. We have an ad that has been viewed about 12 million

:58:00.:58:03.

times. We have lots of different videos and assets that have been

:58:04.:58:08.

produced talking about different areas in the industry with

:58:09.:58:12.

creatives. We have been trying to reach people where they are in the

:58:13.:58:17.

place they like and these e-mails are just another tool in that

:58:18.:58:20.

toolkit to help us get that message out. Thank you all very much for

:58:21.:58:23.

coming on the programme. Still to come: Could a computer be able to

:58:24.:58:33.

read to the mind of a patient experiencing locked in syndrome.

:58:34.:58:38.

That is when somebody is conscious, but they are unaware that they are

:58:39.:58:45.

able to communicate. We will talk to a woman who recovered from locked in

:58:46.:58:50.

syndrome and I will be due some more of your incredible messages to

:58:51.:58:53.

Chelsea Cameron who was on the programme earlier. She read her open

:58:54.:58:59.

letter to her drug addicted parents. You are so admiring of her and I

:59:00.:59:03.

will read some of your messages in the next hour. We have got the

:59:04.:59:08.

latest news and sport, before that, the weather.

:59:09.:59:14.

This weather front will clear away and we have drier and brighter

:59:15.:59:20.

interlude with a few showers before more rain and strengthening winds

:59:21.:59:26.

arrive from the West. It is a mild start, temperatures not lifting that

:59:27.:59:32.

much from where they are now. Overnight we lose this front and the

:59:33.:59:36.

second one moves eastwards and then the next system comes in from the

:59:37.:59:40.

West, producing heavy rain and strengthening winds. Temperatures

:59:41.:59:48.

between 7-10. We are not anticipating problems with frost.

:59:49.:59:52.

Tomorrow rain moves from the West to the east, but the main feature will

:59:53.:59:57.

be the wind. It will be a windy day wherever you are. Gail is out

:59:58.:00:03.

towards the west and into the Irish Sea and up to Scotland. Temperatures

:00:04.:00:08.

are in double figures, but it will not feel particularly pleasant.

:00:09.:00:12.

18-year-old Chelsea Cameron from Dundee wrote an open letter

:00:13.:00:21.

to her drug addicted mum and dad thanking them for not

:00:22.:00:24.

She has told us in her first ever interview that while normality

:00:25.:00:31.

was missing from her childhood, her parents' absence had

:00:32.:00:34.

made her ambitious, independent and determined to succeed.

:00:35.:00:39.

Life is not sunshine and rainbows and thank you for teaching me that

:00:40.:00:45.

life is unfair. People disappoint you and there is sometimes nothing

:00:46.:00:49.

you can do about that. A lesson well learnt from the both of you. Guy

:00:50.:00:55.

says, "What an inspirational young woman. I sat here and criedment"

:00:56.:01:01.

Laura says, "Amazing bravery. Heartfelt thank you to her drug

:01:02.:01:06.

addicted parents. What an inspiring girl."

:01:07.:01:12.

You can watch the full 15 interview with Chelsea again and read the full

:01:13.:01:16.

letter by going to our programme page.

:01:17.:01:27.

MPs are likely to begin the process of leaving the process of leaving

:01:28.:01:31.

the European Union tonight. We're likely to hear more of that in the

:01:32.:01:37.

Commons. England has saved herself and will, I trust, save Europe and

:01:38.:01:45.

the United Kingdom by her example. I personally shall be voting with my

:01:46.:01:50.

conscience, content in this vote and when we see what unfolds here after

:01:51.:01:55.

as we leave the European Union, I hope the consciences of other

:01:56.:01:59.

members of Parliament remain equally content.

:02:00.:02:03.

Police in Los Angeles have made 500 arrests and rescued more than 50

:02:04.:02:11.

women and girls in their biggest ever operation to find young women

:02:12.:02:14.

We have exclusive access to the LAPD's major

:02:15.:02:17.

We find minors every day that were out here working.

:02:18.:02:20.

We had them as young as 11 and all the way to 17.

:02:21.:02:25.

11 is the youngest that we had though.

:02:26.:02:28.

And she was being forced to sell herself...

:02:29.:02:30.

Have you ever been confused when buying train tickets?

:02:31.:02:40.

Train operators are to overhaul what they say is a "baffling"

:02:41.:02:47.

ticketing system to ensure that you, the passengers, pay

:02:48.:02:50.

Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:02:51.:02:59.

MPs will vote tonight on legislation that would allow the government

:03:00.:03:03.

to trigger Article 50, starting the process

:03:04.:03:05.

It would see the start of two years of formal negotiations

:03:06.:03:09.

The Government is expected to win the vote, despite opposition

:03:10.:03:16.

Train operators have promised to overhaul what they say

:03:17.:03:19.

Trials aimed at cutting red tape, and making it easier for passengers

:03:20.:03:23.

to find the cheapest fares, will begin in May.

:03:24.:03:26.

Our business correspondent Ben Thompson reports.

:03:27.:03:29.

Buying train tickets is notoriously complicated and confusing for many

:03:30.:03:37.

so now the Government is to trial a new, simpler system,

:03:38.:03:43.

one that should make it easier to find the cheapest fares.

:03:44.:03:47.

The new trial will begin in May this year on trains between London,

:03:48.:03:49.

It will reduce the number of confusing ticket options.

:03:50.:03:54.

The rail delivery group, which represents train operators,

:03:55.:03:58.

says the changes will mean passengers are offered the best

:03:59.:04:00.

price every time regardless of whether they book

:04:01.:04:02.

It's quite complicated to find which place to buy them

:04:03.:04:12.

A wide range from ?10 to ?76 for the journey I do.

:04:13.:04:20.

It is quite confusing to know which ones to take, especially like,

:04:21.:04:23.

The trial should put an end to what's known as split ticketing,

:04:24.:04:29.

where passengers divide their journey into single shorter

:04:30.:04:31.

Out of date options and discounts will also be removed

:04:32.:04:35.

The clearer ticket vending machines will never replace

:04:36.:04:44.

trained, helpful members of staff, so we need to make sure that train

:04:45.:04:48.

companies ensure that ticket offices remain open and that there are staff

:04:49.:04:51.

there who can talk you through the different options,

:04:52.:04:53.

The train companies themselves have welcomed the trial,

:04:54.:05:01.

blaming government rules built up over decades for stopping them

:05:02.:05:03.

But critics say the trial doesn't go far enough after above inflation

:05:04.:05:08.

price rises came into force in January alongside strikes

:05:09.:05:10.

and delays affecting many parts of the rail network.

:05:11.:05:20.

Donald Trump has nominated a conservative judge from Colorado,

:05:21.:05:23.

Neil Gorsuch, to fill a vacancy on the US Supreme Court.

:05:24.:05:26.

If confirmed, the 49-year-old will become the youngest person

:05:27.:05:28.

to fill the position in a quarter of a century.

:05:29.:05:31.

Some Democrats have said they will oppose the choice

:05:32.:05:33.

because of his attitudes towards womens' and workers' rights.

:05:34.:05:41.

The system for recovering cash from overseas patients who use

:05:42.:05:46.

the NHS is "chaotic" and ministers should "get a grip" on the issue,

:05:47.:05:49.

The Public Accounts Committee is calling for more to be done

:05:50.:05:57.

by the NHS to charge people from overseas.

:05:58.:05:59.

The Department of Health says the amount recovered from foreign

:06:00.:06:01.

countries has more than trebled in three years.

:06:02.:06:03.

Police say a 16-year-old Vietnamese boy has been found hiding

:06:04.:06:05.

in bushes in Dumbarton after escaping from traffickers.

:06:06.:06:08.

The teenager is thought to have been trafficked to Russia before

:06:09.:06:11.

He was found near Overtoun House in Dumbarton by a member

:06:12.:06:14.

Police are appealing for information.

:06:15.:06:19.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:06:20.:06:20.

Thank you very much. Overwhelmed with the messages for

:06:21.:06:33.

Chelsea Cameron. Sarah says what an amazing young woman and a shining

:06:34.:06:37.

example of positivity and hope to share with others. Another viewer

:06:38.:06:41.

says, "Please hug this mature young woman from me. She amazed me with

:06:42.:06:48.

her attitude towards life." Joanne says, "I'm moved to tears. Chelsea,

:06:49.:06:53.

you are a wonderful, inspirational young woman." There are reams and

:06:54.:06:57.

reams of these. Thank you very, very much for those. If you're getting in

:06:58.:07:03.

touch, use the hashtag Victoria Live.

:07:04.:07:06.

Antonio Conte said he was "proud" of his Chelsea players,

:07:07.:07:11.

for the "personality" they showed against Liverpool at Anfield.

:07:12.:07:14.

The 1-1 draw left Chelsea nine points clear at the top

:07:15.:07:17.

They went ahead at Anfield, through a David Luiz free-kick.

:07:18.:07:23.

Georginio Wijnaldum equalised for Liverpool.

:07:24.:07:30.

Diego Costa had the chance to give them an even bigger cushion,

:07:31.:07:33.

important to draw against a really good team. But it's important to

:07:34.:07:53.

continue this way and to try to increase our points in the stable

:07:54.:07:58.

and it is important to see ourselves.

:07:59.:08:01.

With Chelsea dropping points, Arsenal could

:08:02.:08:04.

have narrowed the gap, but their title challenge

:08:05.:08:06.

They were beaten 2-1 at home to Watford.

:08:07.:08:12.

Younes Kaboul and Troy Deeney scoring

:08:13.:08:14.

Arsenal are third, level on points with Tottenham,

:08:15.:08:17.

The title, you can only have a chance if you win your games. So

:08:18.:08:34.

let's respond well. Before the game I knew and we prepared the game in a

:08:35.:08:39.

conscientious way, but we have to learn from tonight and respond well.

:08:40.:08:43.

Hull City's Ryan Mason says he's "lucky to be alive"

:08:44.:08:45.

Mason fractured his skull in a challenge with Chelsea defender

:08:46.:08:50.

Gary Cahill and had surgery the same night.

:08:51.:08:52.

He's not put a time-frame on his recovery but has thanked

:08:53.:08:55.

everyone for the "overwhelming support" given to him

:08:56.:08:56.

The funeral of former England manager Graham Taylor will take

:08:57.:09:03.

place later in Watford, home of the club where he enjoyed

:09:04.:09:06.

Taylor died last month at the age of 72.

:09:07.:09:09.

Thousands are expected to turn out and pay their respects

:09:10.:09:12.

England's cricketers will be looking to finish a disappointing winter

:09:13.:09:20.

Their last chance to win a series rests in Bangalore,

:09:21.:09:24.

Despite losing the Test and One Day Series, Joe Root believes

:09:25.:09:30.

We've got a lot in place to make us a very formidable side especially in

:09:31.:09:42.

Twenty20 cricket because we've proven we can perform at that level

:09:43.:09:45.

and across the others as well. We are building forward and making

:09:46.:09:49.

massive strides in one day cricket especially with the bat, scoring

:09:50.:09:53.

huge totals and we are finding our feet in Test cricket. So, it is a

:09:54.:09:58.

very interesting and entertaining time to be playing in international

:09:59.:10:00.

sport for England. And Lord Coe has been asked to meet

:10:01.:10:03.

MPs again after emails seem to confirm that he did know

:10:04.:10:06.

the details of doping allegations in athletics, four months

:10:07.:10:09.

before they became public. Coe had told a Parliamentary Select

:10:10.:10:14.

Committee that he was unaware of the specifics

:10:15.:10:17.

of the Russian doping scandal. That's all for now. I will have the

:10:18.:10:19.

headlines at 10.30am. Good morning, welcome to the

:10:20.:10:26.

programme. Now, it's a side of

:10:27.:10:37.

America you rarely see - it's hidden in the poverty

:10:38.:10:40.

of the inner cities - children forced into commercial

:10:41.:10:42.

sexual exploitation. Research last year suggested

:10:43.:10:44.

thousands of girls under the age of 18 are forced to sell themselves

:10:45.:10:47.

on the streets of the US. Last night Police in Los Angeles

:10:48.:10:50.

announced the results of their biggest ever operation

:10:51.:10:52.

to find these young people. They made almost 500 arrests

:10:53.:10:55.

and rescued more than 50 Our correspondent Angus Crawford

:10:56.:10:57.

was given exclusive access and spent This report does contain

:10:58.:11:01.

upsetting scenes, so if you have children in the room

:11:02.:11:09.

and you don't want them to watch, We find minors every day that

:11:10.:11:18.

were out here working. We had them as young as 11

:11:19.:11:21.

and all the way to 17. 11 is the youngest

:11:22.:11:26.

that we had though. And she was being forced

:11:27.:11:28.

to sell herself... On the street they call "the Blade",

:11:29.:11:30.

in the richest country in the world, children are bought and sold at any

:11:31.:11:37.

time of day, every day. We're looking for people

:11:38.:11:41.

hiding in the shadows. And you'll see, often

:11:42.:11:44.

times you'll see girls in the shadows in the corners,

:11:45.:11:50.

and they're looking at the motorists in the cars

:11:51.:11:53.

and looking to see if there This is South Central,

:11:54.:11:55.

one of the poorest, toughest Sergeant Brian Gallagher

:11:56.:11:59.

heads the area Vice Unit. A car approached her,

:12:00.:12:05.

she is again moving, His job tonight, find those girls,

:12:06.:12:07.

get them off the street. Stopped at Imperial

:12:08.:12:17.

in the McDonald's parking lot. Uniformed officers have followed

:12:18.:12:21.

a car and forced it to stop. It's four o'clock in the morning

:12:22.:12:24.

and a routine patrol of the vice squad here has pulled over a car

:12:25.:12:34.

driven by a man they know is a pimp. When they stopped it,

:12:35.:12:38.

a young woman got out of the car The police fear she's

:12:39.:12:41.

being exploited. They call them Romeo pimps,

:12:42.:12:47.

it's kind of like a dating "Hey, I need you to do

:12:48.:12:55.

this for us so we get a little bit more money and we can have a life

:12:56.:12:59.

and live happily ever after". The tattoos on her leg

:13:00.:13:03.

and neck are a giveaway. She's been branded with

:13:04.:13:06.

the name of her pimp. Almost all the girls have

:13:07.:13:08.

been marked like this. Police gently start to tease out

:13:09.:13:10.

the information they need. It turns out she's been reported

:13:11.:13:13.

missing by her parents. Officers hope they can

:13:14.:13:17.

persuade her to leave My cousin grabbed me

:13:18.:13:18.

and the way home from school. Next thing I know I'm

:13:19.:13:24.

in a different city. America is slowly waking up

:13:25.:13:28.

to the reality that thousands of children across the US

:13:29.:13:31.

are being sexually I was actually groomed

:13:32.:13:33.

from a very young girl. And at one point in my life

:13:34.:13:45.

I thought that this is as good Put to work on the street

:13:46.:13:48.

from the age of 11, now she helps You know, our kids are being picked

:13:49.:13:55.

off left and right. To be bought and sold

:13:56.:14:00.

and to make someone else money, it's kind of like our kids are seen

:14:01.:14:05.

as something to sell, They're not seen as human beings,

:14:06.:14:09.

like, this is, this is something that is actually taking over

:14:10.:14:16.

the United States very rapidly. Which is why California has launched

:14:17.:14:24.

this State-wide operation, the biggest of its kind ever

:14:25.:14:26.

to take place here. So far they've arrested hundreds

:14:27.:14:31.

of adult prostitutes but their real aim is to find the children

:14:32.:14:34.

who are forced to And when they find them,

:14:35.:14:36.

they treat them very differently. They're arrested like all

:14:37.:14:40.

the others and taken But they don't end up

:14:41.:14:47.

in a cell, instead they are No bars, no locks, it's a place

:14:48.:14:51.

of safety with specially trained The soft room is really

:14:52.:14:55.

to put the victim at ease. Make them understand

:14:56.:15:06.

that we are treating them as a victim and not as a suspect

:15:07.:15:10.

and that anything they did tonight was not going to be treated

:15:11.:15:13.

as a crime and what we really want to do is save them,

:15:14.:15:16.

bring them to a safe environment so they can get the resources

:15:17.:15:19.

they need and we can also get to the bottom of who is doing this

:15:20.:15:23.

to them so we can bring that So this is about help,

:15:24.:15:26.

not punishment? We ride along with another

:15:27.:15:29.

Vice Unit, this time in Compton, once notorious for drugs

:15:30.:15:37.

and gang violence. On the main street in broad

:15:38.:15:40.

daylight women are already Here police, social workers

:15:41.:15:42.

and anti-trafficking Some of the women are

:15:43.:15:54.

released with a warning. Others, multiple offenders,

:15:55.:15:59.

are taken to jail. In a holding area they come

:16:00.:16:10.

face-to-face with their customers, A deliberate tactic,

:16:11.:16:12.

shame used as a powerful deterrent. Few of the women though

:16:13.:16:21.

are able to leave the life. Just 18, caught for

:16:22.:16:23.

a second time, Treasure. She started on the street

:16:24.:16:25.

in middle school. Somebody pulled a knife out on me,

:16:26.:16:27.

a gun, tried to rob me. Those are just a few things

:16:28.:16:32.

that happened to me. But you were a child

:16:33.:16:34.

when you first started doing this? Crystal is in for an

:16:35.:16:37.

unpleasant surprise. Prostitutes openly advertise online,

:16:38.:17:03.

some are children, even They are setting up

:17:04.:17:07.

a sting in a hotel room. The undercover officer

:17:08.:17:22.

will be in one room. While next door an entire

:17:23.:17:27.

team is getting ready. When the officer has the proof

:17:28.:17:29.

he needs, they go in. Police Department, turn

:17:30.:17:35.

around and keep your hands This is the only thing

:17:36.:17:38.

I can do to survive I'm a father, you know,

:17:39.:18:03.

and you have a heart If you don't you're

:18:04.:18:18.

in the wrong profession. Police Department,

:18:19.:18:25.

LAPD, stand up for me. It is often young, vulnerable people

:18:26.:18:27.

that are pulled into this lifestyle. I hope and believe that in time

:18:28.:18:40.

that this will get better. In South Central, on the Blade, it's

:18:41.:18:50.

the final night of the operation. It's cold, but the prostitutes

:18:51.:18:53.

are still working. Forced to bring money

:18:54.:18:56.

to their pimp everyday. Forced to bring money

:18:57.:19:00.

to their pimp every day. Continuing westbound,

:19:01.:19:03.

through Denver, it looks Despite years of experience,

:19:04.:19:05.

Brian Gallagher is still What alarms me is how big

:19:06.:19:10.

the problem is and how little people In fact, even us as law enforcement,

:19:11.:19:16.

how little we know about how big This is like crack

:19:17.:19:23.

cocaine in the 80s. Young girls being sold out here,

:19:24.:19:29.

the difference between a young girl and crack cocaine is she can be sold

:19:30.:19:32.

10 times in one night, a piece During the three days

:19:33.:19:36.

police across the state As the sun comes up,

:19:37.:19:41.

the work seems never-ending. Children forced to work the streets

:19:42.:19:48.

turn into women who know only this, Could a computer be able to read

:19:49.:19:59.

the mind of a patient in a locked-in state -

:20:00.:20:24.

conscious,, aware of everything that's going on around them,

:20:25.:20:26.

but unable to communicate, A group of scientists in Switzerland

:20:27.:20:28.

believe they have achieved this by measuring the blood flow

:20:29.:20:40.

in the brain of four patients when they were asked a series

:20:41.:20:42.

of basic yes or no qtns. when they were asked a series

:20:43.:20:50.

of basic yes or no questions. One man was able to refuse

:20:51.:20:53.

permission for his The patients when asked

:20:54.:20:55.

if they were happy - I can be sure by asking them several

:20:56.:21:13.

hundreds of questions when I and the family know the answer, like trivial

:21:14.:21:19.

questions. London is the capital of France or England? I ask them

:21:20.:21:27.

hundreds of questions of this kind and where we know the answer and

:21:28.:21:31.

when the patient is able to give the answer in 70% of the cases

:21:32.:21:37.

correctly, I can ask them, are you happy? Are you happy with life, do

:21:38.:21:38.

Are you happy with life, do you have pain?

:21:39.:21:44.

In 2010, Kate Allatt became "locked-in"

:21:45.:21:46.

She's now a motivational speaker, stroke activist and author,

:21:47.:21:51.

Nice to see you again, how are you? Very good. How are you? Very good.

:21:52.:22:06.

Tell us about being locked in after a stroke. I had a stroke at 39 and

:22:07.:22:11.

when it happened it was like a pneumatic drill going through my

:22:12.:22:16.

head. It was so loud. It was not painful, but the noise was horrific.

:22:17.:22:22.

I was taken to hospital and put in a coma for three days. When I woke I

:22:23.:22:27.

could not move a single muscle. I was drowsy and so on, but within

:22:28.:22:34.

days I became aware of myself and my environment, so I knew what was

:22:35.:22:39.

going on around me, but I could not communicate to anybody around me

:22:40.:22:42.

through a digit or a blink or nothing. I was in that state for two

:22:43.:22:49.

weeks. What is it like? You can hear everything and are aware of

:22:50.:22:55.

everything and you can contribute? It is absolutely horrendous. We have

:22:56.:23:00.

seen films about having conversations about people turning

:23:01.:23:04.

life-support machines. People and people talking about you as if you

:23:05.:23:09.

are not there. Very fearful about what is happening with the life

:23:10.:23:13.

machine and whether it will be turned off. The leg cramps, the

:23:14.:23:19.

board, the anxiety, missing my kids. It was terrible. The reason it

:23:20.:23:25.

changed for me was my friends used to come and visit me and if my head

:23:26.:23:30.

was pointed towards the door, I saw them visiting me and I used to weep

:23:31.:23:35.

the silent tears. They knew before even the doctors did, who thought I

:23:36.:23:44.

was vegetative, that I was not. In fact, it is estimated that 20-40% of

:23:45.:23:52.

patients are considered vegetative and misdiagnosed. Anyway, they came

:23:53.:23:55.

in and cobbled together a letter board and they said to me with the

:23:56.:24:01.

very small blink that I had, blink once for no and twice for yes. It

:24:02.:24:06.

was very slight. One was pointing and one was writing down. The very

:24:07.:24:14.

first word I spelt out which took 20 minutes was sleep. My very

:24:15.:24:17.

perceptive friend Jackie said, cannot sleep? I blinked twice. .

:24:18.:24:29.

Then she said, at night? I blinked twice. I was still locked in, I had

:24:30.:24:33.

to live like that for five months, but at that point my world open and

:24:34.:24:40.

I did not have to live in my own body alone any more. If you put

:24:41.:24:45.

together every Christmas, every birthday and the moment you hold

:24:46.:24:49.

your first newborn, that is how euphoric I was. It was unbelievable.

:24:50.:24:57.

That is an incredible description. We can only imagine for these four

:24:58.:25:01.

patients were scientists have looked at the activity of their brain cells

:25:02.:25:06.

and realised the oxygen levels in their blood to change the colour of

:25:07.:25:12.

the blood, they peered into their brain to detect the blood plasma

:25:13.:25:15.

colour and asked them the questions and worked out from the change of

:25:16.:25:20.

the colour whether they were saying yes or no. I think this technology

:25:21.:25:26.

is phenomenal. It is a basic human right for quality of life for any

:25:27.:25:31.

person, anywhere, whether they are locked in for two weeks, 20 years, a

:25:32.:25:38.

month, whatever, to be able to communicate and not to be assumed to

:25:39.:25:42.

be vegetative because it is more convenient. It is terrible not being

:25:43.:25:47.

able to communicate when you can understand everything going on

:25:48.:25:53.

around you. I think this technology and the technology of Doctor Owens

:25:54.:25:58.

in Ontario about brain Mapping through a cap for people like this

:25:59.:26:02.

is phenomenally important. It is absolutely essential. Tell our

:26:03.:26:08.

audience how you have managed to come back from that stroke being

:26:09.:26:14.

locked in and your general recovery. I can tell you I am not a medic and

:26:15.:26:20.

a lot of people scratched their heads when they looked at my scans

:26:21.:26:24.

and where I have come from until now. I have never given up. I am not

:26:25.:26:30.

saying I tackle like this positively in every respect of my life, but I

:26:31.:26:39.

was written off and I worked so hard intensively, frequently,

:26:40.:26:40.

repetitively, even before I knew that theory on it. I used to

:26:41.:26:47.

obsessively 300 times a day practice moving my digits more. It was such

:26:48.:26:54.

an obsession. I was a 70 miles a week fell runner and I was used to

:26:55.:26:59.

hard work. I had rehab and the support of my family, but beyond

:27:00.:27:05.

that I had some very big luck, which was a game changer for me. But I was

:27:06.:27:13.

in rehab and they described me as someone who pushed them harder than

:27:14.:27:16.

they pushed me. That is quite telling from a rehab unit. Kate,

:27:17.:27:22.

thank you so much and thank you for coming on the programme. It is

:27:23.:27:26.

really good seeing you looking so well. Thank you and good luck to you

:27:27.:27:28.

Thank you and good luck to you as well.

:27:29.:27:31.

On Monday we're holding a special programme looking

:27:32.:27:33.

We'll be looking at the problems it's facing and asking

:27:34.:27:37.

If you work in the NHS, a doctor, a nurse or a consultant,

:27:38.:27:41.

or you're a patient with recent experience, we'd love you to take

:27:42.:27:44.

It's in central London on Monday February 6th.

:27:45.:27:48.

to register your interest and one of our team will be in touch.

:27:49.:27:57.

The parents of missing toddler Madeleine McCann say

:27:58.:27:59.

they're disappointed that Portugal's Supreme Court has thrown

:28:00.:28:01.

out their libel case against a former detective.

:28:02.:28:11.

Goncalo Amaral had published a book alleging the couple were involved

:28:12.:28:14.

in their daughter's disappearance during a family holiday in 2007.

:28:15.:28:16.

The court's ruled the allegations are protected by freedom

:28:17.:28:19.

of expression laws, and aren't abusive.

:28:20.:28:24.

Let's speak to Brendan De Beer works for the Portugal news and has been

:28:25.:28:28.

covering the disappearance of Madeleine McCann

:28:29.:28:29.

What does this ruling mean? Well, it finally puts that case to rest I

:28:30.:28:45.

guess. It has been ongoing for some time. Being a Supreme Court ruling,

:28:46.:28:50.

that is the final ruling in the matter. There are suggestions this

:28:51.:28:54.

morning in Portugal that Goncalo Amaral might consider lodging a

:28:55.:29:00.

counterclaim against Kate and Gerry McCann, saying he suffered losses as

:29:01.:29:04.

a result of the litigation over the years. This was something mentioned

:29:05.:29:09.

by his lawyer in 2015 when they won the initial review. That could be

:29:10.:29:14.

potentially where we go next in this case. We know that the former

:29:15.:29:21.

detective had to pay Kate and Gerry McCann something like 12 million

:29:22.:29:26.

euros, ?1 million. Does that mean they will have to pay him back or

:29:27.:29:32.

what? As far as I know, I do not think money has changed hands yet. I

:29:33.:29:39.

do not think with all this going on in the courts and every appeal that

:29:40.:29:45.

has been lodged, I do not think the ruling was definitive. As it stands

:29:46.:29:48.

now I do not think any money needs to be paid back to him. However, he

:29:49.:29:57.

might lodge a counterclaim. Financially it could be pretty

:29:58.:30:04.

ruinous for the McCann family? Yes, but we have seen with this

:30:05.:30:08.

particular ruling now that the Portuguese chords are pretty

:30:09.:30:13.

reluctant when it comes to making settlements and damage claims.

:30:14.:30:17.

Several other cases in Portugal, the amounts very seldom are extremely

:30:18.:30:22.

high. In the UK you are accustomed to getting huge pay-outs. In

:30:23.:30:26.

Portugal that is not customary. I guess the value of money perhaps is

:30:27.:30:32.

a bit higher and what might be considered a huge sum, a small sum

:30:33.:30:38.

in the UK, is considered a big one here, so I do not think it is

:30:39.:30:43.

potentially ruinous. It could maybe be five or six figures. I am sure

:30:44.:30:46.

that is what the claim could be for, but whether or not that happens is a

:30:47.:30:51.

different story. Thank you very much.

:30:52.:30:54.

A chronic shortage of prison officers.

:30:55.:31:10.

All this is revealed after an inspection at Exeter Prison.

:31:11.:31:13.

We'll speak to an officer who spent two weeks inside the prison.

:31:14.:31:16.

Train operators are going to radically overhaul what they say

:31:17.:31:18.

We'll find out what it could mean for passengers.

:31:19.:31:27.

With the news, here's Joanna Gosling in the BBC Newsroom.

:31:28.:31:32.

MPs vote tonight on legislation that would allow the government

:31:33.:31:35.

to trigger Article 50, starting the process

:31:36.:31:37.

It would see the start of two years of formal negotiations

:31:38.:31:40.

The Government is expected to win the vote, despite opposition

:31:41.:31:44.

Train operators have promised to overhaul what they say

:31:45.:31:49.

Trials aimed at making it easier for passengers to find the cheapest

:31:50.:31:54.

The first routes affected will include CrossCountry,

:31:55.:31:57.

Virgin Trains' east and west coast services and East Midlands.

:31:58.:32:03.

President Trump has called on the US Senate to speedily approve

:32:04.:32:06.

Neil Gorsuch's nomination to the vacant seat

:32:07.:32:07.

If confirmed, the 49-year-old will become the youngest person

:32:08.:32:12.

to fill the position in a quarter of a century.

:32:13.:32:15.

Democratic senators have raised questions about his attitudes

:32:16.:32:16.

A Tunisian man has been arrested in Germany suspected of recruiting for

:32:17.:32:38.

Islamic State. The man was arrested in Frankfurt where he is alleged to

:32:39.:32:42.

have led an IS cell that was planning an attack in the country.

:32:43.:32:46.

Join me for BBC Newsroom live at 11am.

:32:47.:32:49.

Chelsea have extended their lead at the top of the Premier League

:32:50.:32:54.

David Luiz put them ahead at Anfield although Liverpool equalised

:32:55.:32:59.

Antonio Conte's side are now nine points clear after their closest

:33:00.:33:08.

Hull City's Ryan Mason says he's "lucky to be alive"

:33:09.:33:13.

Mason fractured his skull in a challenge with Chelsea

:33:14.:33:16.

He has thanked everyone for the "overwhelming support" given

:33:17.:33:23.

England's cricketers will be looking to finish a disappointing winter

:33:24.:33:26.

Their last hope of a series win lies with the final T20 in Bangalore

:33:27.:33:31.

after they lost the Test and One Day series.

:33:32.:33:38.

And Lord Coe has been asked to meet MPs again after e-mails seem

:33:39.:33:41.

to confirm he DID know the details of doping allegations

:33:42.:33:44.

in athletics, four months before they became public.

:33:45.:33:46.

Coe says he was not aware of the specifics.

:33:47.:33:48.

Staff unrest and a chronic shortage of prison officers.

:33:49.:34:13.

All this is revealed after an inspection at Exeter Prison.

:34:14.:34:15.

It comes after recent disturbances at Lewes, Bedford,

:34:16.:34:17.

Birmingham and Swaleside prisons, and a record number of prison

:34:18.:34:19.

The Government has promised more than ?100 million

:34:20.:34:26.

for 2,500 more officers, the Chief Inspector of Prisons'

:34:27.:34:28.

verdict is that the situation at Exeter isn't going to get better

:34:29.:34:31.

Let's talk to Mark Fairhurst from the Prison

:34:32.:34:34.

In the last two weeks he has spent time in Exeter Prison to compile

:34:35.:34:41.

a report into health and safety there.

:34:42.:34:43.

Andrew Neilson is from The Howard League,

:34:44.:34:44.

So how bad was it, Mark? Well, I'm pleased to announce that Exeter has

:34:45.:34:53.

turn the corner since that inspection in August 2015. I'd like

:34:54.:34:57.

to commend the staff and indeed the management for the effort they've

:34:58.:35:01.

put into that. When I visited the regime was stable. They had an

:35:02.:35:05.

excellent violence reduction project in place and they were doing the

:35:06.:35:08.

best they could with the resources that were available. So everything

:35:09.:35:13.

is fine at Exeter jail, you say now? Well, it is not fine. They still

:35:14.:35:17.

have their difficulties. It's quite obvious when you walk around that

:35:18.:35:20.

there is a chronic shortage of staff. They're due to get 13 new

:35:21.:35:25.

staff in the next couple of weeks, but they need more if they're going

:35:26.:35:29.

to provide a constructive regime for prisoners. OK. You say they've

:35:30.:35:34.

turned, you're pleased to announce they have turned things around since

:35:35.:35:38.

that inspection in 2015. There have been ten suicides in the last three

:35:39.:35:44.

years at Exeter jail. They have not really turned things around, have

:35:45.:35:50.

they? What happened at Exeter echoes what is happening throughout the

:35:51.:35:55.

entire prison estate. So they haven't turned things around?

:35:56.:36:00.

Suicides are at their highest level throughout the estate, as were

:36:01.:36:03.

assaults on staff. The only way you're going to fix that is by

:36:04.:36:06.

recruiting more staff and giving staff the tools they need to do the

:36:07.:36:11.

job and keep themselves safe. I understand, but they haven't turned

:36:12.:36:16.

things around then? Well, they have since that inspection because the

:36:17.:36:20.

regime was stable. Relationships with prisoners were very good and

:36:21.:36:25.

they were taking swift action whenever there was violence against

:36:26.:36:28.

staff on the landings. Why did ten people die then? Why were ten people

:36:29.:36:35.

able to take their own lives? Well, unfortunately, as in Exeter, with

:36:36.:36:39.

the rest of the estate, we haven't got the staff to care for the

:36:40.:36:44.

vulnerable who are presenting themselves with mental health

:36:45.:36:46.

problems. You know, we want to sit down with them. We want to care for

:36:47.:36:50.

them, but we simply haven't got the resource to do that. Andrew, do you

:36:51.:36:57.

accept that things have turned a corner at Exeter jail? I haven't

:36:58.:37:02.

been at Exeter recently. But I'm prepared to accept that things have

:37:03.:37:06.

improved. One of the most concerning things about the report is

:37:07.:37:09.

inspectorate were expressing a lack of confidence that things could

:37:10.:37:12.

improve and what is concerning about that is as you say, people have

:37:13.:37:16.

taken their own lives and that means lives are at stake. Things have to

:37:17.:37:22.

improve. Exeter is in many ways a typical local prison, overcrowded,

:37:23.:37:24.

facing a transient population of prisoners in and out, going to the

:37:25.:37:29.

courts, but at the same time, inspectors did find that the

:37:30.:37:32.

problems it was facing at the time of the inspection were worse than

:37:33.:37:37.

comparable prisons. But on another level, it is a typical prison and

:37:38.:37:40.

the problems are across the prison estate. They are systemic, I don't

:37:41.:37:45.

think they are a responsibility of any one particular staff group. We

:37:46.:37:49.

need to look at the system as a whole and solutions that can provide

:37:50.:37:53.

an answer to this. Something which you have been campaigning on for as

:37:54.:37:58.

long as I can remember, decades. Are you failing? Well, I think the

:37:59.:38:03.

Howard League is getting its message through louder than we have in many

:38:04.:38:06.

years because of all the stories that we have seen in the media that

:38:07.:38:12.

you alluded, the riots and disturbances and the escapes, the

:38:13.:38:16.

deaths, prisons are regularly in the news and regularly, I think higher

:38:17.:38:19.

up on the political agenda than they were. But what reform have you

:38:20.:38:23.

achieved? Well, we have achieved reform on particular groups,

:38:24.:38:27.

children for example, the number of children in prison reduced by

:38:28.:38:31.

two-thirds in recent years. But the number of adults remains very high

:38:32.:38:36.

and I think it is true that we need more staff and resources that

:38:37.:38:41.

supplying is one side of this, but the other side is demand and that's

:38:42.:38:45.

the number of people we're putting in prisons like Exeter, a prison

:38:46.:38:49.

designed to hold about 320 prisoners is actually holding under 500. When

:38:50.:38:53.

you put that kind of pressure alongside problems with staffing and

:38:54.:38:57.

resources, then you're going to get these huge problems. It is a toxic

:38:58.:39:00.

cocktail. Thank you very much. Thank you.

:39:01.:39:08.

We've received a statement from the Ministry of Justice

:39:09.:39:13.

which says, "The Chief Inspector has highlighted the dedication

:39:14.:39:16.

of managers and staff at HMP Exeter who have been working hard

:39:17.:39:19.

to provide a decent regime despite considerable

:39:20.:39:20.

I'm confident that together with these extra resources

:39:21.:39:25.

the governor will be able to fully address the recommendations in this

:39:26.:39:28.

report and significantly improve the performance of the prison".

:39:29.:39:35.

Another chance to hear some of 18-year-old Chelsea' Cameron's

:39:36.:39:42.

letter to her drug addicted parents. Thank you for not being there during

:39:43.:39:46.

her childhood. She told us this morning that although there was no

:39:47.:39:50.

such thing as normality when she was growing up, her parents absence has

:39:51.:39:53.

given her the strength to really make something of her life.

:39:54.:39:58.

So we'll play you another extract before the end of the programme.

:39:59.:40:08.

Frank Rosier, a World War Two veteran who took

:40:09.:40:10.

part in the Dday landings more than 70 years ago, has died.

:40:11.:40:13.

The 91-year-old, who served as an infantryman with the 2nd

:40:14.:40:16.

Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment, was in the second wave

:40:17.:40:17.

On Armistice Day in 2015, Frank came on the programme

:40:18.:40:21.

and shared some of his memories with Joanna and explained

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why Armistice day was so important to him.

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My generation, you could say, are the last link with

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the First World War veterans because it was our dads

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I have very vivid memories of my two uncles who both lost a leg

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and my own dad who was wounded in the war in the ankle.

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I remember them quite a lot and I also remember the lads that

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They were very young boys and I still never forget those

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So Remembrance Day, 11/11, is very important to me.

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One story that is never really told is that by 1942 we were a small

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nation population wise and we were running out of men,

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so they lowered the recruiting age to 17 and a quarter.

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That is where everybody at that age volunteered.

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I would go as far as to say more than half the Armed Forces in those

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Consequently, we volunteered at 17 and a quarter and then

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after training, by the time we got to D-Day, the eldest among us

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And to think that really we got through it, and I had many instances

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of the comradeship with the fellows that I was with,

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we helped one another, and the British Army,

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I don't know if these boys agree with me, had a wonderful

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The ability to laugh at situations gets you out of trouble

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But leaving those young boys, there are 14 of my platoon

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who lie in the cemetery, and I go over there and I still cry

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because I live the life they never had.

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The youngest was 19 and the eldest was 24.

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But quite a lot were in the infantry platoon who did not survive the war.

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Very few of us got through the war unhurt.

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Many were wounded and went back again.

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There is a lot to think about these days.

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Also I spent four years in hospital in the plastic surgery unit

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and I always think of those lads who I was with.

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The same age, who lost two legs, they were badly burned.

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I do not know if the others agree with me, there

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Frank Rosier, veteran of the D-Day landings, speaking to us in 2015.

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Frank has, sadly, died at the age of 91.

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Many of you who travel by rail regularly will

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Train operators have finally promised to overhaul

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the ticketing system, which even they admit is "baffling"

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They'll start trials of a new system in May,

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to simplify things and make sure you pay the cheapest possible

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Anthony Smith is the Chief Executive of the independent watchdog

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Tell us about the situation now? Fares have built up through

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privatisation and things have been added on top of each other. It

:43:53.:43:57.

turned into a topsy-turvy mess. Have you got any ludicrous examples? You

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can find fare ifs you book through the train ticket line and if you do

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a split ticket, the break the journey into different parts and you

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can reduce the fare. Passengers are baffled, so hopefully this morning

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we're seeing the start of a rail ticketing revolution. I wonder what

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they will do so we always know that we're getting the cheapest fare

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then? It is about information. So you can make an informed choice, if

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you have got clear information in front of you and you can see that's

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the cheapest fare, that is the restriction that is go with it, if

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you can only use it on one train or something, but these are pilots so

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we will be watching carefully what happens in the pilots. Right, OK.

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Why hasn't it happened before now? It is a such a big one. It is one of

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those issues that nobody had the courage to tackle because it got so

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big and the situation has got so bad, the Government, the train

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companies, everyone recognises that we have got to have a go at this and

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sort it out. What are you an independent watchdog of? We look

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after the interests rail passengers and road passengers and bus

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passengers, our views are heard. Have you had success? We have had

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lots of you can ses in improving the way that penalty fares are imposed

:45:11.:45:13.

on passengers and we have got this review on the table. Years of

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pressure, years of lobbying, years of research and finding out what

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passengers really think led to this day. So it is good. I mean, I might

:45:21.:45:27.

be wrong, I might be being too cynical, it is not going to end up

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denting the private identitiesed rail companies profits, is it?

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They're not going to make it, so they don't make as much money? No,

:45:35.:45:37.

that's a good point. Nobody will want the rail industry to be losing

:45:38.:45:40.

money, therefore, there will be win, and there will be losers in these

:45:41.:45:44.

types of trial and we've got to watch carefully because there are

:45:45.:45:47.

Government regulations built into this which are old-fashioned and

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they don't really work anymore, but they provide a basic level of

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protection. We don't want to sweep that away without us knowing what's

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happening. We don't want to leap in the dark.

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There are some amazing routes, we get on the train and see why can't

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the rest of the system be like this and there are shockers. If you judge

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a country by its railway system, how would you describe Britain? It is

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good in parts. Long-distance services, people really like them.

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People who can get hold of advance purchase tickets, they can be good

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value for money. For your average commuter, it doesn't feel like good

:46:24.:46:26.

value. A lot of investment is being made, but that's causing pain as

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stations are rebuilt and the track is redone. It feels like not very

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good value for money at the moment. A word with Stephen Hammond, hello.

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It has been true for a while back if you knew how to negotiate the

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system, you would find the best fares. But this is good news for the

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consumer who will know the fair they are being offered is the best fare.

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However, the devil will be in the detail. Why has it taken so long?

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They have done a number of things over the last few years to simplify

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the system, but not enough. They have made presentation easier, but

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not enough. This is the government saying and the rail companies

:47:19.:47:23.

agreeing to ensure that the consumer gets a better deal, that it is

:47:24.:47:27.

obvious and in front of them. They are not in it to lose money? There

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is a group of fares on which they lose money already, regulated fares

:47:36.:47:42.

that go up every year. The real problem is Network Rail and unless

:47:43.:47:46.

the government bears down on those costs, that then can be passed

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through to the consumer and that is the real task. I know it was last

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minute, but we appreciate it. Stephen Hammond and Anthony Smith.

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We've had loads of responses to an interview we did earlier

:47:59.:48:09.

She's 18 and has written an open letter to her parents -

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both drug addicts - about how they missed all those

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The letter is a thank you letter thanking them for making her choose

:48:18.:48:31.

the right path, as she put it, for not getting into drugs, for seeing

:48:32.:48:35.

what a lack of ambition can do to your life and how harmful it can be.

:48:36.:48:40.

She read most of the open letter on the programme a little earlier and

:48:41.:48:44.

because of the response from you, we thought we would play a bit of it

:48:45.:48:49.

again. Thank you for teaching me to be ambitious. Your example showed me

:48:50.:48:56.

that no ambition for education, work or success is harmful and it leads

:48:57.:49:00.

to a lot of self worth. Your example showed me life is about choices and

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I did not need to make the same ones you did. Remember when we forced dad

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into watching Hannah Montana? There is a line in one of the songs that

:49:11.:49:15.

says, life is what you make it, so let's make it rock. Life has turned

:49:16.:49:19.

out for me what I have chosen to make it. Thank you for teaching me

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to not be so easily embarrassed. You both have not made the best of

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choices, they have gone pretty public, allowing everyone I

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associate with to know what you are both like. That has given me the

:49:34.:49:38.

opportunity to speak freely and openly about who I am and how my

:49:39.:49:43.

life has been growing up. Up until my third year of high school I had

:49:44.:49:48.

an alter ego. People did not need to know the circumstances I was in and

:49:49.:49:52.

if they found out, I would die on the spot because I made myself

:49:53.:49:59.

something I was not. The thing that kept me sane was thinking people did

:50:00.:50:04.

not know the truth. They probably did, but I brainwashed myself into

:50:05.:50:08.

thinking they did not. Thank you for teaching me life is unfair, people

:50:09.:50:12.

disappoint you and there is nothing you can do about that, a lesson well

:50:13.:50:16.

learned from both of you. Tag you for not being there to wave goodbye

:50:17.:50:22.

as I'd jetted off to Uganda on a trip of a lifetime. Thank you for

:50:23.:50:26.

not being there when I got my exam results. At you for not being there

:50:27.:50:31.

when I got the position of head girl, thank you for not being there

:50:32.:50:36.

when I stood in front of hundreds of people to speak at my prizegiving.

:50:37.:50:40.

Thank you for not being there when I needed you. You have given me the

:50:41.:50:45.

greatest lesson of how to be independent. You allowed me to be a

:50:46.:50:49.

more tolerant and independent person I ever imagined. Dad, I hope you

:50:50.:50:54.

have a greater insight into the type of person I am and the things you

:50:55.:50:59.

have taught me. Ma'am, I hope you also know me a bit better now and

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know I am trying to be a good person and always will. I hope one day you

:51:06.:51:09.

will wake up and realise there is so much more that the world has to

:51:10.:51:13.

offer you and when that day comes, please come to find me so we can

:51:14.:51:18.

enjoy life together. I will show you some nice restaurants and if you are

:51:19.:51:23.

lucky I will take you to Germany one day and until then I hope you

:51:24.:51:27.

realise what life might be like with parents to enjoy it with. Wow, that

:51:28.:51:37.

is really powerful and very moving. What is really upsetting is you say

:51:38.:51:43.

life is not sunshine and rainbows. We know that, but you know it at

:51:44.:51:47.

such a young age. That makes me very sad. There are lots of negative

:51:48.:51:54.

things that come into people's lives not through their own circumstances,

:51:55.:51:59.

and what I wanted to do was to show people they can choose positivity no

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matter their circumstances, choose to have joy in their life no matter

:52:04.:52:08.

what happens. Society sometimes tells you what your fate is. If your

:52:09.:52:15.

parents live a certain way, what if you let a certain lifestyle, it is

:52:16.:52:19.

destined to live like that. My hope is to show other young people they

:52:20.:52:23.

can choose exactly how they want their life to be. They can choose

:52:24.:52:28.

joy, happiness and positivity no matter what the circumstances. What

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kind of response have you had? Incredible responses, so many people

:52:35.:52:39.

have contacted me in similar situations who have said, this has

:52:40.:52:43.

really helped me, I have been in the same situation, it has made me

:52:44.:52:47.

realise it is OK to talk about how you feel and to know they do not

:52:48.:52:53.

have to fall into that pathway. Not just with drugs, a lot of people

:52:54.:52:57.

have contacted me with any negative situation they have had and it has

:52:58.:53:01.

made them realise you can choose to be positive. Just because something

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negative has happened in your life, that doesn't determine your attitude

:53:08.:53:13.

and you can be positive and happy. Is it young people, kids,

:53:14.:53:18.

middle-aged people? I have had a lot of different people, a lot of young

:53:19.:53:22.

people and older people who did not know my circumstances be for. Or

:53:23.:53:27.

people who had known my parents and they have really reached out to

:53:28.:53:34.

support me and allowed me to know I have helped someone by sharing the

:53:35.:53:39.

letter as well, which was my desire. You talk about the period of time

:53:40.:53:43.

when you felt you had to hide what was going on at home. Absolutely. As

:53:44.:53:50.

a young person you are very easily embarrassed and you want to try and

:53:51.:53:55.

be this person who seems perfect and your life is perfect and everything

:53:56.:53:59.

flows nicely and no one needs to know anything negative about your

:54:00.:54:04.

life. I kept that persona for a long time and bottle it up. I felt like I

:54:05.:54:09.

wanted to share the letter because it was time for me to speak about

:54:10.:54:14.

how I felt and to tell others it was time for them to speak about how

:54:15.:54:19.

they felt as well. Although I might not know them, they can come to me

:54:20.:54:23.

for any advice they might need as a friend for support. At 14, in the

:54:24.:54:29.

middle of high school, you stop living with your parents. Where did

:54:30.:54:36.

you go? I lived with various family members and friends. That was on the

:54:37.:54:42.

recommendation of social workers. Yes. What did they say? They said my

:54:43.:54:48.

dad was not able to care for us any more and he was in a bad place with

:54:49.:54:52.

his difficulties and it was better for my brother and I to move away

:54:53.:54:58.

from that. I had continuous support from family and friends who loved me

:54:59.:55:02.

so much and took me in and they have shown me a level of care that was

:55:03.:55:06.

not necessary for them to give me, that my parents would have given me,

:55:07.:55:10.

but they have continued to support me which I am extremely grateful

:55:11.:55:17.

for. Chelsea Cameron. You can watch the full 15 minutes interview with

:55:18.:55:20.

her again and share it by going to our programme page. Get that share

:55:21.:55:34.

on Facebook, Twitter and everywhere. So many messages from you.

:55:35.:55:35.

E-mail from Yvonne, "Chelsea is an amazing young woman.

:55:36.:55:39.

I would be proud to call her my daughter.

:55:40.:55:41.

I wish her every success in her life".

:55:42.:55:43.

E-mail from Margaret, "I've never responded to a TV

:55:44.:55:45.

programme before but wow what a fantastic positive role model

:55:46.:55:48.

I wish the very best future for you Chelsea.

:55:49.:55:53.

What a fantastic, positive role model says John. Pat, I am so

:55:54.:56:08.

impressed and deeply moved by the bravery, courage and compassion

:56:09.:56:13.

shown by this lovely young women. My own family has been affected by the

:56:14.:56:17.

nightmare which drug addiction brings. It is hard to have a normal

:56:18.:56:21.

life when one of your family has to face each addicted today. Thank you,

:56:22.:56:26.

Chelsea, not only because your family still have your love, but

:56:27.:56:29.

because of the young people who might turn to the relief of drug use

:56:30.:56:35.

which could so quickly turn to a life without opportunity, a life

:56:36.:56:40.

outside normal society, a life of shame and pain. What a girl, God

:56:41.:56:45.

bless her. This is from Helen. Like the rest of your audience I was

:56:46.:56:50.

blown away by Chelsea Cameron. She is a total inspiration. I am

:56:51.:56:57.

currently writing a musical with two award-winning script writers about

:56:58.:57:00.

another inspirational, real-life character. I am a composer and

:57:01.:57:05.

songwriter. But I would like to dedicate one of the songs from it to

:57:06.:57:11.

the wonderful Chelsea Cameron. How amazing is that? Helen, we could not

:57:12.:57:16.

get in touch with you to talk on the programme. That is an amazing idea,

:57:17.:57:21.

we will make sure that Chelsea knows what you want to do. That is

:57:22.:57:23.

fantastic. On Monday we are going to look at

:57:24.:57:37.

the NHS and look at all the issues it is facing right now and look at

:57:38.:57:43.

your help for solutions. If you work in the NHS, whatever role at all, or

:57:44.:57:48.

have recently been treated on the NHS, or someone you know has, we

:57:49.:57:53.

would love you to take part in the programme. It is in London this

:57:54.:57:58.

Monday on February the 6th. E-mail us to let us know you are interested

:57:59.:58:03.

in coming along and we will be in touch. Thank you for your company.

:58:04.:58:05.

Have a good day. To be in the Lords,

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you have to be punctual... Sometimes you really do literally

:58:33.:58:35.

have to slam the door What right do they have to tell

:58:36.:58:38.

me about my fashion sense? Can you now control

:58:39.:58:47.

your bad language?

:58:48.:58:50.

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