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Joanna Gosling sits in for Victoria Derbyshire and talks about the pros and cons of HRT with women who have been through the menopause.


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Hello it's Thursday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling,

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Police arrest a third person in connection with

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the apparent poisoning of Kim Jong-nam,

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half-brother of North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un.

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At this stage it's too early to say whether a foreign

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South Korea says it's convinced it was North Korea but Malaysia

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A million pensioners are not receiving the support they are

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entitled to. We will look at what it means for those that need it.

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And why is so hard to talk about the menopause?

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The first time I had a hot sweat, it did take me by surprise. What is

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that? What am I sitting on! It is like sitting on a radiator.

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Hello. Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am this morning.

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We're also talking about social care this morning, after the charity Age

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UK said hundreds of thousands of elderly and vulnerable people

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in England are not receiving the help they need,

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even though they are struggling with essential daily

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tasks such as washing, eating and using toilet.

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The charity says the system is close to collapse

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Let us know your experiences, use the hashtag, #VictoriaLIVE

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and if you text, you will be charged

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Malaysian police have arrested two more people in connection

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with the death of Kim Jong-Nam, the half-brother of North Korean

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He died after apparently being attacked at the airport

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in the Malaysian capital Kuala Lumpur earlier this week.

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One of those arrested was a woman travelling

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How, in a crowded airport in broad daylight,

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Malaysian police are trying to piece together how Kim Jong-nam died

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as he waited to board a flight at Kuala Lumpur airport.

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These CCTV images appear to show one of the suspects.

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Police have now arrested two women, one carrying a Vietnamese passport,

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South Korea's spy agency believes suspected North Korean agents

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TRANSLATION: The cause of murder seems likely to be of poison.

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But it is to be checked precisely through autopsy.

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Inside North Korea, thousands gathered to mark the birthday

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of the country's late leader, while the isolated nation's

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current ruler, Kim Jong-un, has remained silent on the death

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Back in the Malaysian capital, North Korean officials including

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the ambassador were seen visiting the hospital on Wednesday.

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This is the Kim dynasty. Kim Jong-il had five children.

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Kim Jong-nam, the eldest son, fell out of favour and lived in exile.

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He was bypassed for leadership in favour of his youngest half-brother.

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Despite the suspicions and speculation, it is not yet clear

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A postmortem of the body has been completed but the results

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Our correspondent Karishma Vaswani is in Kuala Lumpur, and earlier

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she sent this update on the investigation.

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The investigation has been extremely fluid,

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with information changing pretty much by the hour.

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This morning, we received a statement from the Royal Malaysian

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Police, that said an Indonesian woman, a woman carrying

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an Indonesian passport, was arrested late last night.

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She was arrested alone and they didn't say

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What we understand is that she was identified from the closed-circuit

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camera footage taken from the scene of the crime.

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This is the second arrest in this investigation so far,

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but three days on from the death of the man believed to be Kim

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there is still very little information about why

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he was killed or whether it was Kim Jong-nam at all.

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In fact, I'm standing right in front of the Kuala Lumpur hospital

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where the body was brought for a postmortem investigation.

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Remember, Malaysian police have said that until that

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investigation is completed, they can't confirm the identity

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of the man who died at the airport on Monday, or what caused the death.

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Now we have been told that the postmortem has been

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completed but the results of that investigation have

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Let's go live now to Seoul in South Korea,

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Kevin, now three arrests, and more details emerging about potentially

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the story behind it, claims that in 2012, he had written to Kim Jong-un

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an, begging him to spare his life after a previous assassination

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attempt -- Kim Jong-un. The person detained was carrying an

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Indonesian passport. But it is quite likely an investigation may head

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towards the true identity. Earlier on, Malaysia nor authorities

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released a photo taken from a security camera thought to be one of

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the assailants. It is believed that it may have been a North Korean

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agent. A colour image of a young Asian woman in heavy make-up and

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casual clothes. Several other members thought to be part of the

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same group are being pursued a according to local media.

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A huge amount of interest around the world in this story, isn't there?

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That's correct. This incident has created a frenzy of media interest

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in the region, in China, South Korea and Japan. It is just the bit

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bizarreness in its entirety, Malaysia and women employed as

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assassins, and the way the murder was carried out with various

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conflicting theories of a poisonous needle, or a liquid laced cloth, all

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aspects of this incident has kept the public absolutely mesmerised,

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even to the detail of what was printed on the shirt that the female

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suspect was wearing, with the huge letters LOL, an acronym for laughing

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out loud plastered on the front of the assailant's outfit. Everyone is

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captivated by the story in its intrigue.

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Thanks very much, Kevin. Ben is in the BBC Newsroom

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with a summary of the rest More than three million people

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could avoid getting colds and flu every year by taking Vitamin D

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supplements according The study in the British Medical

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Journal calls for the vitamin But Public Health England says

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the evidence remains inconclusive. Our health correspondent

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Dominic Hughes reports. This is what Vitamin D

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deficiency can look like. Softened bones bowing under

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the weight of the body. Now Researchers say Vitamin D

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can have other benefits They argue that if everyone got

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enough Vitamin D there would be a 10% reduction in the risk of

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respiratory illnesses like coughs, Among those with the very lowest

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levels of Vitamin D, the benefit is even greater -

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a 50% reduction. And across the whole UK population,

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that would equate to more than 3 million people avoiding

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a cold or flu each year. At present, people are being

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asked to take supplements in order to meet their Vitamin D requirement

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over winter and spring, but it's expensive and a lot of

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people won't remember able to take or remember to take

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supplements daily. So a more effective strategy

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is to introduce food fortification Sunlight on the skin

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is the best source of Vitamin D but the increased use of sunscreen,

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and our weather, means exposure We are already advised to take

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vitamin D throughout the winter and spring months

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to boost our levels. It can also be found in some foods,

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like oily fish, eggs and cereals, and the US and Finland add Vitamin D

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as a supplement to food. But some scientists here are not

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convinced there's enough evidence that Vitamin D can prevent other

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illnesses to justify following suit. The Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson

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will meet his American counterpart Rex Tillerson later today,

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for the first time since Mr Tillerson was confirmed

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as President Trump's The two men will be attending

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a meeting of foreign ministers The US State Department has

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indicated that Mr Tillerson will try to provide a comforting

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message to countries made uneasy by the apparent changes in

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America's foreign policy positions. President Trump has suffered another

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set-back in his efforts to finalise His choice for Labor Secretary,

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Andrew Puzder, has withdrawn from the nomination process

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after several Republican senators Mr Puzder has admitted that he once

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employed a housekeeper who wasn't legally

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allowed to work in the US. Social care for elderly people

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is on the brink of collapse in some parts of England,

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according to the charity Age UK. It says more than 50,000 people

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are now not receiving any help, despite struggling with essential

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daily tasks such as washing, Our Health Correspondent

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Sophie Hutchinson reports. For ten years, Elaine Yates

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has cared for her husband. They managed to get

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some social care. But Elaine, who runs

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a support group for carers, When Michael first

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came into the system, it was a lot easier,

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because we had our own care manager who grew to know us and could help

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support us in what we needed. Today, people coming

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into the system, they don't get that kind of support, they don't

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get their own care manager. Today's report from Age UK

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says that since 2010, that has been a rise of 50%

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in the amount of elderly people The charity's particularly concerned

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with the more than 50,000 people who struggle with three or more

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of these activities, While social care is run

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in different ways across the UK, cuts have meant councils in England

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have had to reduce The Councils

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in England have had to reduce the amount they spend

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on social care. And Age UK says emergency funding

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is now needed to avert a complete We're seeing the beginnings

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of something that's That's because, if there

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is going to be any extra money for social care,

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it's not coming yet. Because every day we have an ageing

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population and more people over 85 The Government says it recognises

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the pressures on the system and is working on

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a sustainable solution. There's now a growing expectation

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a rescue package may be included Britain's most senior judge has

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criticised sections of the press for their coverage of the Article 50

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court ruling, which said Parliament had to be consulted before

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the formal process for leaving The President of

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the Supreme Court, Lord Neuberger, also accused politicians of not

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being quick enough to defend Some of the things that were said

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risked undermining the judiciary, and unfairly undermining the

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judiciary. And therefore, undermining the rule of law.

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A mother and teenage son have been arrested after she allegedly

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faked her death in Zanzibar in a bid to claim ?140,000

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Police said the 45-year-old woman's son and his guardian claimed she had

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died in a car crash in East Africa and allegedly provided

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But instead she was living in Canada.

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The insurance company was unable to verify the woman's death,

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refused to pay out on the policy and contacted police.

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The Church of England says its bishops will take time

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to reflect after the ruling general synod voted down an important

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The clergy chose to ignore recommendations which suggested that

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a union should only be between a man and a woman.

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The bishops are now expected to produce a new report on the issue.

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Hundreds of people demonstrated on the streets of Paris last night to

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show support for a black youth worker who claims he was sexually

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assaulted by police earlier this month.

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There's been growing tension in some of the city's suburbs since the 22

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year-old was arrested a fortnight ago.

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One police officer has been charged with rape,

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President Francois Hollande has called for calm and for justice.

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A state of emergency has been declared in Christchurch

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in New Zealand as a huge wildfire continues to burn,

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forcing hundreds of people to flee their homes.

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The military has been deployed to help tackle the fire -

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investigations into what caused it are continuing.

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Now we've heard of birds, or even drones, being a danger to planes,

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but now pilots may also have to look out for deer.

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Pilots are taught to watch out for many dangers during take-off,

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But one flight in North Carolina had another experience.

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This plane was taking off from Charlotte in North Carolina

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when it struck a deer on the runway and was forced to make

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The surprise impact damaged one of the wings and caused

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a fuel leakage, which saw emergency services spraying foam

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No injuries were reported among those on board,

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we suspect the deer was probably not so lucky.

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Oh, dear. That is a summary of the latest BBC News, more from me later.

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I thought we might see the deer, but thankfully, we didn't. Let me bring

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you some comments on the menopause. We will talk about it later. Is it a

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taboo? Is it difficult to talk about it if you are going through it? What

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have your experiences been? Jane on Facebook says not getting the right

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help from your local hospital on these issues is not help either.

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Glad we can talk out about this because it is a nightmare to live

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with. Lindsay on Facebook, I cook the bed every night and had to get

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out to call it down or I never get back to sleep. Insomnia is also a

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blight. Let us know your experiences of the menopause and what have you

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found works to get through it? Kirsty Walker has made a documentary

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on the menopause. She will join us with other women talking about their

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experiences. Hugh, not a very good night for

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Arsenal, I guess that puts it mildly? Yes, that is putting it

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mildly. It is an embarrassment of epic proportions for Arsene Wenger

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and his team. Former players, pundit, fans seem to be reaching a

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universal view it has been a good journey but the wheels have come off

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and it is time for a change at Arsenal. They have been knocked out

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at the last 16 stage of the Champions League in the last six

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seasons. After a huge 5-1 defeat last night it looks set to be

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another early exit. Amazingly Sanchez's equaliser meant things

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were level at half-time, there was a brief glimmer of hope for the fans

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but they were torn apart and the capitulation compounds the pressure

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on the boss Arsene Wenger, he is under fire, a promising title

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challenge faltered early on, no Premier League title for 12 years

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and lack of character was put into stark contrast, against that of the

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Bayern team. Arsenal looking lost following an injury to their

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captain. The goalkeeper making a few great saves. That prevented things

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from being worse. It is the same old story for fans of the Gunners and

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with the manager's contract coming to an end in a few month's time the

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out calls will grow louder. After he spoke briefly to the media. The real

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problems we faced was after the third goal, I felt, because we lost

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our organisation, and we looked mentally very jaded, and very

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vulnerable from that moment on wards, and after, the last 25

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minutes, it was a nightmare for us. After judgment came in from all

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quarters. Martin Keown a former supporter of his former boss said it

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was embarrassing. He called it Arsene Wenger's lowest point and on

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Radio 5 Live they had this assessment. This is a chronicle of

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death foretold. There is no leadership. The club have an owner

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who is silent. He doesn't communicate with the fans, who is

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sleepwalking towards the abyss here, you have a manager in Arsene Wenger

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whose best days are behind him. Everyone can see that, even the

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faithful can really see that this is a manager who has been overtaken by

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the Contes and Klopp, you have a lack of leadership on the pitch

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which is highlighted when cosh any. They are a laughing stork, you have

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a manager who has lost his leadership skill, there is no Ince

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vincible streak in the team any more or the manager. That view was

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reflected in the newspapers, the Sun say Bay bye Arsene. They are called

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spineless in the Mail. The pressure grows on Wenger and that sums it up.

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Groundhog Day for the Arsenal fan, we will wait and see whether Arsene

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Wenger is given a new contract and more time at the club. We will see.

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We will. Thank you. The menopause is something that

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happens to all women - And what's the best way to deal

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with the side effects that A new documentary by Newsnight

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presenter Kirsty Wark which airs tonight takes an unflinching look

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at everything to do with the menopause -

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and asks whether women have been needlessly denied hormone

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replacement therapy for years. There is something about the word

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that has negative connotations of ages which in our youth obsessed

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culture can be debilitating. We are living longer, working longer and

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menopause is a feature of midlife, it is the start of a new chapter so

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why the taboo. It really is time for a change.

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So sadly, our ovaries are only designed to last a certain number of

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year, we produce egg cells up to the late 40, early 50s and by the age of

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51 on average women are stopping having periods and the reason they

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stop is because we run out of egg cells but the complicated thing is

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we live for many years beyond that. So, when our ovaries are not,ing,

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the key hormone we stop producing is oestrogen, rather than it being

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period stops it is about the consequences of lack of oestrogen.

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There are many aspects that women can be embarrassed to talk about. I

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thought it would be interesting to see if I could encourage them to

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open up on radio. Can I ask how good was it for you?

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Not great. No great. Medically induced hysterectomy. HRT for three

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years and then came the big boom scare, and suddenly, HRT was taboo

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and I came off it, and actually, my symptoms have not really gone away

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in the last ten years. What about you? I don't seem to have been

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affected, sorry, because I know that I annoy people. That is great. You

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are not. Virtually 100% will experience some symptoms. I do stick

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my leg out the bed at night. Hot flushes. That is a symptom, even if

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it is only one leg. It is only one leg. It would affect your euro

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genital symptoms. Dryness down below, loss of libido. Look, people

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don't want to talk about that stuff with their doctors even. What you

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want to hear from people. You get what you ant because we have lots of

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them. Let us speak to Nan. Good morning. How are you this morning?

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OK but I have had a horrible, horrible night with hot flushes.

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Does it affect you every fight? Every single night. What I would

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like to ask is, I am 78, am I too old to go back on to HRT? You may

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want to consider other options which can be helpful to control hot

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flushes which we sometimes use for ladies who are not so suitable for

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HRT. The most common treatment for

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menopausal symptoms is hormone replacement therapy. HRT. Which

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helps replace the oestrogen lost when our ovaries stop producing

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eggs. It can be taken via patches or as a

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gel or tablets. But it has been heart to work out if

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it is wise to take it. This is due to the confusion ignited by the

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publication of the women's health initiative study in America, back in

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2002. The study casts serious doubts on the safety of HRT. So 2002, HRT

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study. Cancelled over cancer and stroke fear, the Guardian HRT linked

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to breast cancer n the male it does more harm than good. New cancer fear

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for women taking HRT, then it is safe for millions of women. Again

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The Express two stories. New menopause guide say one million

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women can benefit from HRT. This is why it is all so confusing. I was

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using HRT tablets for three years after my hysterectomy but stopped

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suddenly, like so many women because of the scare. So in 2002 the results

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of the women's health initiative study came out and those suggested

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that being on HRT hugely increased your risk of breast cancer, that

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seemed like being on it for a short period. At that time people just

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stop taking it because of the risk. Lots without any discussion with a

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medical professional. They stopped it cold turkey. Then people stop

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coming to ask for it and GPs became less familiar with prescribing it

:24:31.:24:35.

and got caught up in the safety issues so were probably less likely

:24:36.:24:38.

to suggest it. It's a vicious circle. Yes. Subsequent research

:24:39.:24:42.

suggested that the analysis of the data was flawed. That the findings

:24:43.:24:49.

were overstated. But these more positive reappraisal received

:24:50.:24:51.

nothing like the same publicity as the original scare. More up-to-date

:24:52.:24:57.

researchers attempted to offer clarification of the risks involved.

:24:58.:25:01.

So let us look at this. Back when she was in her 30s Jennifer spawned

:25:02.:25:06.

sear was writing about the funny side of it. Did you go hospital? Yes

:25:07.:25:13.

and the gynaecologist. I hate them, a man who can look you in the vagina

:25:14.:25:19.

but never in the eye. I used that about four times. Times. Patsy has

:25:20.:25:26.

ohs borrow sips. She has the lowest bone denty on record.

:25:27.:25:33.

She is just gristle clinging on the bone powder. This is what happens

:25:34.:25:40.

when you have the menopause. No! No! No! Good. You look at that no. I

:25:41.:25:48.

know. Little did I know it was all going to happen. Yours was a

:25:49.:25:52.

particular kind of menopause, what happened? Was, I got breast cancer,

:25:53.:26:00.

and so I wasn't menopausal, I was still having periods, but second

:26:01.:26:08.

year of chemotherapy, all your periods stop, and so you plunged

:26:09.:26:12.

into it. Because you are so full of chemicals you have no idea. It is

:26:13.:26:17.

like the tiniest thing. Compared to everything else. So by the time you

:26:18.:26:23.

have got over the chemicals and you are on tamoxifen which gets rid of

:26:24.:26:27.

your oestrogen, you can't tell the difference, you know know what is

:26:28.:26:31.

coming out of chemo and what is menopause, and it wasn't until I

:26:32.:26:36.

think about a year after, that I started to feel like, this isn't,

:26:37.:26:39.

this doesn't feel right. This feels different. It changes your

:26:40.:26:46.

metabolism, you energy levels, your skin, your hair, everything. I mean

:26:47.:26:50.

it was quite astonishing. How did you deal with it? I don't know. I

:26:51.:26:58.

drank! No... I had a large glass of champagne. And got on with it. I

:26:59.:27:03.

think you get on with it. One of -- what are your #1i78 Toms now? Mine

:27:04.:27:07.

are night sweats and bad sleep patterns. I have had a good, I am

:27:08.:27:12.

very good at sleeping. Lucky you. I am very good at sleeping, but the

:27:13.:27:17.

first time I had a hot sweat, it did take my by surprise, I kept going,

:27:18.:27:24.

what's that. What am I sitting on? Am I sitting, it felt like sitting

:27:25.:27:29.

on a radiator. I was looking round going is everyone else? No, they are

:27:30.:27:34.

not, they are not hot like me. Do you feel different postmenopausele

:27:35.:27:37.

as to how you were before? Is that tied up in the breast cancer? No, I

:27:38.:27:42.

don't really think about the breast cancer. But I think, yes, I think,

:27:43.:27:48.

it happens and all of the things I used to make jokes about are so

:27:49.:27:54.

true. You know, just your place in the world and how you feel about

:27:55.:28:00.

yourself, your general feeling of sexiness and libido, and, and... It

:28:01.:28:06.

is an indefinable something that you don't have any more. But for me I

:28:07.:28:11.

feel, I feel completely able to do what I want to do.

:28:12.:28:17.

In in years past women have often been written off after a certain age

:28:18.:28:21.

when work and child rearing are at an end. But in the early 21st

:28:22.:28:26.

century, when the average life expectancy for women is now 81, how

:28:27.:28:30.

can we best approach this next stage?

:28:31.:28:41.

Later in the programme, we will be joined by Kirstie and group of other

:28:42.:28:47.

women to talk about their experiences and Sheila has tweeted

:28:48.:28:52.

to say I am 72. I have night sweats every two hours every night. Hence

:28:53.:28:57.

sleep disturbed every night. Doctors responses have been unhelpful. Laura

:28:58.:29:01.

says I had a pretty easy menopause, I read somewhere that sweet potato

:29:02.:29:05.

and so I helped so maybe that did help. I did have hot flushes,

:29:06.:29:11.

sometimes was a bit dippy, finding any good was a nightmare and most

:29:12.:29:18.

women were on denial. Knew people on HRT but whip they came have been

:29:19.:29:22.

unhelpful. Laura says I had a pretty easy menopause, I read somewhere

:29:23.:29:25.

that sweet potato and so I helped so maybe that did help. I did have hot

:29:26.:29:28.

flushes, sometimes was a bit dippy, finding any good was a nightmare and

:29:29.:29:30.

most women were on denial. Knew people on HRT but whip they came off

:29:31.:29:33.

had a menopause. "It makes life difficult. I have been suffering for

:29:34.:29:35.

four to five years. Not just hot flushes, brain delay, awful,

:29:36.:29:37.

continually fighting to find the right thing for me on a folic acid

:29:38.:29:40.

trial at present." Nightmare and most women were on denial. Knew

:29:41.:29:43.

people on HRT but whip they came off had a menopause. "It makes life

:29:44.:29:45.

difficult. I have been suffering for four to five years. Not just hot

:29:46.:29:47.

flushes, brain delay, awful, continually fighting to find the

:29:48.:29:50.

right thing for me on a folic acid trial at present." Michelle says "I

:29:51.:29:52.

have just finished a FIA year course of tamoxifen which forces your body

:29:53.:29:55.

through the menopause, I had cramp and was stuck on the stair, my hot

:29:56.:29:58.

sweats have had my in a panic I have to move quickly to open air. Even my

:29:59.:30:01.

specs steam up. I found I was unable to drink alcohol. Not a nice

:30:02.:30:04.

experience for FIA years of my life." Keep them coming in and we

:30:05.:30:07.

will talk about it later on on the programme. Also comes up claims that

:30:08.:30:10.

more than one million pensioners are not receiving the support they are

:30:11.:30:13.

entitled to. Britain's youngest ever lottery

:30:14.:30:18.

winner Jane Parks tells us why winning a million at 17 has

:30:19.:30:20.

ruined her life. It's 9:30.

:30:21.:30:30.

Here's Ben in the BBC Newsroom Malaysian police have arrested

:30:31.:30:32.

two more people in connection with the death of Kim Jong-Nam,

:30:33.:30:39.

the half-brother of North Korean He died after apparently

:30:40.:30:42.

being attacked at the airport in the Malaysian capital

:30:43.:30:45.

Kuala Lumpur earlier this week. One of those arrested

:30:46.:30:47.

was a woman travelling More than three million people

:30:48.:30:49.

could avoid getting colds and flu every year by taking

:30:50.:31:00.

Vitamin D supplements The study in the British Medical

:31:01.:31:02.

Journal calls for the vitamin But Public Health England says

:31:03.:31:06.

the evidence remains inconclusive. Our health correspondent

:31:07.:31:09.

Dominic Hughes reports. The Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson

:31:10.:31:17.

will meet his American counterpart Rex Tillerson later today,

:31:18.:31:24.

for the first time since Mr Tillerson was confirmed

:31:25.:31:26.

as President Trump's The two men will be attending

:31:27.:31:28.

a meeting of foreign ministers The US State Department has

:31:29.:31:31.

indicated that Mr Tillerson will try to provide a comforting

:31:32.:31:38.

message to countries made uneasy by the apparent changes in America's

:31:39.:31:40.

foreign policy positions. Social care for elderly people

:31:41.:31:46.

is on the brink of collapse in some parts of England,

:31:47.:31:49.

according to the charity Age UK. It says more than 50,000 people

:31:50.:31:55.

are now not receiving any help, despite struggling with essential

:31:56.:31:59.

daily tasks such as washing, A mother and her teenage son have

:32:00.:32:01.

been arrested after she allegedly faked her death in Zanzibar

:32:02.:32:15.

in an attempt to claim Police said the 45-year-old woman's

:32:16.:32:18.

son and his guardian claimed she had died in a car crash in East Africa

:32:19.:32:22.

and allegedly provided But instead,

:32:23.:32:24.

she was living in Canada. The insurance company was unable

:32:25.:32:27.

to verify the woman's death, refused to pay out on the policy

:32:28.:32:31.

and contacted police. That's a summary of the latest news.

:32:32.:32:44.

More from me at 10am. Let's catch up with the sport.

:32:45.:32:48.

Arsenal's Champions League hopes lie in tatters at the last 16 stagette

:32:49.:32:55.

again. It follows a 5-1 first leg flashing at Bayern Munich.

:32:56.:32:58.

Afterwards, manager Arsene Wenger looking concerned, calling it a

:32:59.:33:08.

night men. Real Madrid beat Napoli in the other game. Craig Lawton will

:33:09.:33:14.

miss the rest of the six Nations Rugby union after an ankle injury he

:33:15.:33:19.

picked up against France at the weekend. And it was a great day for

:33:20.:33:24.

the 15-year-old Jackson page at the Welsh open snooker. He beat Ashley,

:33:25.:33:29.

meeting the GCSE student gets another couple more days off school.

:33:30.:33:33.

I will be back just after 10am. Britain's youngest ever lottery

:33:34.:33:59.

winner says she thought her million pound win would make her life

:34:00.:34:01.

ten times better. Instead, she says, it's

:34:02.:34:03.

made it ten times worse. Jane Parks was just 17 and living

:34:04.:34:05.

with her mum in a two-bedroom flat in Edinburgh when she scooped

:34:06.:34:09.

the Euromillions prize 4 years ago. She says she's felt overwhelmed

:34:10.:34:11.

by the win and thinks her life would have been so much

:34:12.:34:14.

better without it. After winning in 2013,

:34:15.:34:16.

a documentary was made which followed her first year

:34:17.:34:18.

as a millionaire. It could've been

:34:19.:34:20.

any of these people. But on 28th July, 2013,

:34:21.:34:24.

I was the lucky one. I was standing outside

:34:25.:34:26.

the shop, so I went back in. And then I just asked

:34:27.:34:29.

for a lucky dip. Me and none of my pals

:34:30.:34:31.

buy lottery tickets, so... OK, that's coming up, that one.

:34:32.:34:34.

Congratulations, ?1 million. Are you joking me?

:34:35.:34:44.

No, I can see it here on the screen. Then they wanted me

:34:45.:34:47.

to go to like New York Whereas we're like, let's put some

:34:48.:34:54.

money in the bank and invest it. No, I would have it

:34:55.:35:03.

spent before thinking. I'm so bad.

:35:04.:35:05.

They wouldn't care about the future. They would be like, "Right, let's

:35:06.:35:07.

just spend it while we're young". That's like giving

:35:08.:35:25.

somebody a gun, eh? She was sitting here,

:35:26.:35:36.

where I'm sitting now, crying. Money can't buy happiness,

:35:37.:35:38.

but it can buy a jet ski and have you ever seen

:35:39.:35:54.

someone being sad on a jet ski? Money can't bring you,

:35:55.:36:02.

like, love and that. Like, true friends,

:36:03.:36:04.

it can't buy you true friends. But it does bring

:36:05.:36:09.

a certain degree of happiness. I'm delighted to say that Jane is

:36:10.:36:24.

with us now. I know you were finding that uncomfortable, because that was

:36:25.:36:29.

a few years ago, and you were really young, 17, and handed ?1 million.

:36:30.:36:34.

You say that money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you a jet

:36:35.:36:38.

ski and who has been unhappy on a jet ski? Did you feel differently

:36:39.:36:43.

about the whim at that stage? Watching it back, I feel completely

:36:44.:36:49.

different. At that stage, it was all about what you could suddenly have,

:36:50.:36:55.

what had opened up for you, I guess? You had this money, pretty much for

:36:56.:36:59.

whatever you wanted to get. Looking at that, I thought my

:37:00.:37:04.

worries were gone. I thought it was going to be amazing.

:37:05.:37:07.

What did you spend the money on? I have got property, and I have been

:37:08.:37:14.

out there with some of it, buy a nice things for myself and my

:37:15.:37:19.

family. But there comes a point when you need to invest it as well.

:37:20.:37:23.

You have taken sensible decisions, you still have something to show for

:37:24.:37:27.

it. Do you know how much you have spent on things that do go away, but

:37:28.:37:32.

leave you with memories, things like holidays?

:37:33.:37:36.

I wouldn't speak about figures or anything. It is a bit tacky, but I

:37:37.:37:43.

am comfortable just now. I uncomfortable. -- I am comfortable.

:37:44.:37:52.

I don't need a job or anything. But you are not happy, you feel the

:37:53.:37:56.

money hasn't made you happy, it has made you unhappy?

:37:57.:38:03.

I wouldn't say it has completely ruined my life, what I am trying to

:38:04.:38:08.

say is that, at times, I felt like I had ruined my life when I was 17.

:38:09.:38:14.

Now, I think everyone gets days where they feel worse than on other

:38:15.:38:19.

days. My worst days are normally money situations or money related.

:38:20.:38:26.

And sometimes, I get these feelings, and think I wish I had never even

:38:27.:38:29.

won it. For many, money related bad days are

:38:30.:38:37.

because they don't have enough of it, but for you it is because you

:38:38.:38:42.

have got to much, what is it? Looking back, it was a ridiculous

:38:43.:38:46.

amount to have at such a young age. I had no guidance, I was just, like,

:38:47.:38:55.

wow, I was everywhere. Obviously, as I have got older, it has been more

:38:56.:39:02.

structured. So I still have money problems, but not the same...

:39:03.:39:09.

explain what you mean about money problems.

:39:10.:39:15.

Maybe other folks have money problems, rather than mine in

:39:16.:39:23.

particular, but like, so maybe, so... if a friend or family member

:39:24.:39:27.

is having a money difficulty, I can find it really difficult. Every time

:39:28.:39:36.

someone in my family or my friends are having money difficulties, it is

:39:37.:39:40.

my position to say that I can sort you out, or is it... ? It is

:39:41.:39:47.

stressful. Do I say, "Sort yourself out"?

:39:48.:39:50.

Do you think people expect you to help them out?

:39:51.:39:52.

That is the expectation. The expectation to say, here, I will

:39:53.:39:57.

sort you out. You said that you didn't have much

:39:58.:40:02.

support after the win. Camelot said you had extensive support from them

:40:03.:40:06.

and a dedicated winner 's adviser visited you at home to pay out the

:40:07.:40:11.

price, arrange private banking, sort out publicity, and an independent

:40:12.:40:16.

financial legal team was set up to manage the money. When you are 17, I

:40:17.:40:21.

guess, do you actually listen to advice? Do you feel that you know

:40:22.:40:34.

who you are and what you want to do? I didn't understand what they were

:40:35.:40:37.

talking about. On numerous occasions, I said I didn't

:40:38.:40:45.

understand it, speaking in front of financial advisers about Bonds, I

:40:46.:40:47.

said I didn't understand it. It is not about the support at the start,

:40:48.:40:53.

because it is fine to say they will help at the start, but further on,

:40:54.:40:59.

I'm just glad I had my family to keep me straight and narrow,

:41:00.:41:03.

otherwise I could see how easily... do you actually think you shouldn't

:41:04.:41:10.

have won the money? On days, when I have a good day, I

:41:11.:41:17.

wouldn't change anything. But there are days when, in my head, I say, I

:41:18.:41:23.

wish I hadn't won it. What do you miss about your old

:41:24.:41:26.

life? I wish I didn't have the stress at

:41:27.:41:30.

such a young age and the pressure on me all the time.

:41:31.:41:33.

You could just give it all away? Everyone has said that to me.

:41:34.:41:41.

What people don't understand is that I do have property, I don't have all

:41:42.:41:45.

this cash lying in my account that I spend every day in life. I am on a

:41:46.:41:50.

budget as well, and I do put money away. One day, I want a family, and

:41:51.:41:55.

someone in my family might need that or be dependent, do you know what I

:41:56.:41:59.

mean? I need to secure a future as well to secure my family as well.

:42:00.:42:03.

You mentioned the pressures you feel from people around you that are

:42:04.:42:07.

struggling, and you feel there is an obligation to help, and you struggle

:42:08.:42:11.

with that, how have your relationships with friends and

:42:12.:42:14.

families been affected? To be fair, my friends and family

:42:15.:42:19.

have been really good. I've kept the same friends the whole time. My

:42:20.:42:24.

family have been so supportive. I wouldn't have had it any other way,

:42:25.:42:30.

with my family members, because it could have gone horribly wrong.

:42:31.:42:33.

There will be people watching, thinking, why would you even ever

:42:34.:42:37.

have a bad day when you have got lots of money, what would you say to

:42:38.:42:39.

that? When I had first won, I was thinking

:42:40.:42:46.

that as well. I would never be upset, always having money, I was

:42:47.:42:50.

thinking that nothing could bring me down, because I could go shopping.

:42:51.:42:55.

But until I was in the situation, I can't even express to someone how

:42:56.:43:01.

young my imagination was at 17, and how immature I was, looking back,

:43:02.:43:08.

and I can't express to someone how it feels unless someone has been in

:43:09.:43:11.

that situation. The people I have spoken to, they have been in that

:43:12.:43:16.

situation and they agree with me. People at home struggling with money

:43:17.:43:20.

right now might feel cross at the TV, saying they would love to have

:43:21.:43:25.

the problem of too much money. That's not actually my main point,

:43:26.:43:29.

because before I won the money, I was struggling to make ends meet,

:43:30.:43:34.

and I was in the same situation as them, working in an office job, to

:43:35.:43:41.

pay my mum. I was in the same environment. I am trying to say is

:43:42.:43:45.

now their is no help for young people coming into money -- there's

:43:46.:43:52.

no help. I just think 17 is too young.

:43:53.:43:56.

You are really eloquently making the point about the fact that you are

:43:57.:44:01.

very young, a huge amount of money given in an environment where

:44:02.:44:05.

everybody around you is in a different boat. It puts you into

:44:06.:44:10.

quite a different category. And you said about people not really

:44:11.:44:15.

understanding, how difficult is that in a situation where you feel the

:44:16.:44:18.

people around you don't understand what you are experiencing and

:44:19.:44:22.

feeling? It can be difficult. Sometimes, you

:44:23.:44:26.

don't understand it. I have got to say to people sometimes, give them

:44:27.:44:31.

examples, and tell them to look from my perspective, put yourself in my

:44:32.:44:41.

shoes and think about it. Sometimes I feel like some folks don't

:44:42.:44:44.

understand and they have got it easy. People can look at me and

:44:45.:44:51.

think staff. The stuff behind it all, it does cause stress.

:44:52.:44:59.

What would you have done if you hadn't had a lottery win?

:45:00.:45:03.

Everybody asks me that. I think I would have worked in an office type

:45:04.:45:11.

of job, or a retail work. My life would be completely different,

:45:12.:45:15.

anyway. I'm not sure. What do you think the rest of your life will be

:45:16.:45:20.

like? Do you want a job? I haven't got anything against getting a job.

:45:21.:45:26.

When I did get a job recently, not recently, but within my win, I got a

:45:27.:45:31.

job and I got a backlash from it because some folks were saying I

:45:32.:45:35.

didn't deserve a job. Folks can't get a job that need a job. Folks

:45:36.:45:37.

were saying that I was dedicated. You are back living in the flat with

:45:38.:45:58.

your mum? Yes. Why did to you that? I moved out, in a previous

:45:59.:46:04.

relationship. I feel like I am most settled with my mam. That is where

:46:05.:46:08.

my house is. Where your heart is. Thank you for coming in.

:46:09.:46:12.

Parents of children with cystic fibrosis fined for taking their kids

:46:13.:46:19.

being criticized by a charity and the parents who will have

:46:20.:46:24.

Many people who struggle with essential daily tasks such

:46:25.:46:27.

as getting out of bed and eating are not getting the care they need,

:46:28.:46:31.

The charity says a crisis in social care provision means more

:46:32.:46:34.

than a million elderly and vulnerable people

:46:35.:46:36.

in England are not receiving the help they need.

:46:37.:46:38.

It's a familiar story - and the effects are well documented:

:46:39.:46:41.

more pressure on hospital beds and family members,

:46:42.:46:43.

We keep hearing we're on the brink of a social care crisis,

:46:44.:46:49.

We can now speak to Susan Donnelly who only received the social care

:46:50.:46:52.

she was entitled to when she sent a legal letter to her local

:46:53.:46:55.

Chris Maughn's father had to apply twice to get care

:46:56.:46:59.

despite being so ill he was incapacitated.

:47:00.:47:04.

Lynne Nobel, who applied for social care in 2015 and despite social

:47:05.:47:07.

workers and an ombudsman ruling in her favour she should receive

:47:08.:47:09.

care, there still has been no action by her local authority.

:47:10.:47:13.

She's joined by her husband and carer Michael.

:47:14.:47:17.

Here to make sense of this all is the director

:47:18.:47:19.

of United For All Ages, Stephen Burke.

:47:20.:47:24.

Thank you all very much for joining us.

:47:25.:47:29.

Lynn, I want to start can you, you applied for social care more than a

:47:30.:47:32.

year ago and you still haven't got it. What was your situation, why do

:47:33.:47:38.

you need the care? Well I have a number of conditions, I have MS, I

:47:39.:47:45.

have left sided cerebral palsy s I had head injuries from a road Rafik

:47:46.:47:51.

accident when I was 22, and -- road traffic. I have a lot of physical

:47:52.:47:56.

problems and cognitive processing problems as well. So I applied in

:47:57.:48:06.

2015 and I am #12i8 waiting. What has the process being like? It has

:48:07.:48:11.

been horrendous, there there have been delay, more delay, I have

:48:12.:48:15.

instigated so many stage one complaints and taken it through and

:48:16.:48:24.

I am still waiting. It, you would need a lot of stamina basically and

:48:25.:48:29.

need to know your way round the system to be able to navigate it.

:48:30.:48:33.

And hopefully at the end of it get something, I am sure that many

:48:34.:48:36.

thousands of people are put off the whole process. As things stand you

:48:37.:48:42.

presumably still don't know if or when you might get help? No. I don't

:48:43.:48:48.

know. There is another complaint has gone into my Local Authority and I

:48:49.:48:53.

am waiting to hear from them. And Michael, in the meantime, it

:48:54.:48:57.

puts you under pressure because you are Lynn's career, what is it like?

:48:58.:49:05.

It's very difficult basically, you just have to just keep plugging on,

:49:06.:49:13.

you know, plodding on basically, carrying on, because the, you never

:49:14.:49:20.

know when basically you are going to get help frommure local authority,

:49:21.:49:25.

and you just have to juggle things and do your best basically. Chris,

:49:26.:49:30.

you had a big struggle trying to get funding for help for your

:49:31.:49:35.

80-year-old dad. Tell us more about him, what help he needed? Dad's

:49:36.:49:41.

suffers with Parkinson's disease, and we, he ended up in a rehab unit,

:49:42.:49:52.

and that is where we came across continuing health care assessments.

:49:53.:49:57.

And the assessment was done by the nursing team, and the occupational

:49:58.:50:01.

therapist, and they basically told us as a family, your dad's not going

:50:02.:50:06.

to qualify, he doesn't meet the criteria but we will have a family

:50:07.:50:13.

meeting, and please feel free to say any objections you have got, in our

:50:14.:50:20.

assessments, findings, which when we did, we were basically just told no,

:50:21.:50:25.

no, that is not correct, your dad can do stuff for himself, and we had

:50:26.:50:31.

to make the, the very hard decision to put my dad placed into 24 hours

:50:32.:50:38.

residential care, and EU on your own, if you don't receive funding,

:50:39.:50:42.

you have to go and find a care home yourself. And that is, that is

:50:43.:50:49.

stressful, you don't know, you have to knock on doors, and find these

:50:50.:50:54.

care home, which I did find a fantastic care home for my dad

:50:55.:50:59.

called The Lilacs Did you give up on the whole social care thing because

:51:00.:51:03.

you felt you weren't getting anywhere? Yes, dad count come back

:51:04.:51:10.

to our house, because we knew we wouldn't be able to cope. We were

:51:11.:51:14.

told we could only have four visits a day. Thanks Chris, I want to bring

:51:15.:51:18.

in Susan, because Susan, you got social care but only after you

:51:19.:51:22.

turned to a lawyer for help, tell us what happened with you. Basically

:51:23.:51:27.

what happened, under legislation you are supposed to be assessed every

:51:28.:51:35.

year, for four year, I kept complaining, I phoned up, still

:51:36.:51:39.

didn't get no joy. . Co-plain because you hadn't had the annual

:51:40.:51:44.

assessment. That right. What was the situation in the meantime? I was

:51:45.:51:48.

getting 18 hours care. You needed more. What did you need I had

:51:49.:51:54.

further health issues that came up and it was an ongoing battle and I

:51:55.:51:58.

was struggling. For four years you needed more than 18 hours and you

:51:59.:52:02.

weren't getting the assessment, what happened? I approached a solicitor,

:52:03.:52:08.

and it was taken out of my hands then, then they decided to come and

:52:09.:52:13.

down, and it was one of the senior managers that came to to the

:52:14.:52:18.

assessment and my care package went up from 18-and-a-half hours to 30.

:52:19.:52:24.

But what a lot of people don't understand, I have actually made

:52:25.:52:29.

some notes, just to... If you don't mind we won't have time to go

:52:30.:52:35.

through them but in a nutshell? When people talk about a care package

:52:36.:52:39.

they don't realise that there is a catch hole in it, because they give

:52:40.:52:44.

you a timescale, you might have ten minutes to get someone in the

:52:45.:52:51.

shower. You know, you have health and safety issues the pressure is is

:52:52.:52:54.

put on the irkaer to make sure that you are safe, that there is no

:52:55.:52:59.

issues, and it, it just doesn't work out like that a all, you know, how

:53:00.:53:05.

can you time if I... I hear what you are saying, let us bring in Steven

:53:06.:53:10.

Burke because he has the overall picture, how often is it happening

:53:11.:53:15.

that people need help and they just, either not been given assessments or

:53:16.:53:19.

the whole process is taking a frustratingly long time? We heard

:53:20.:53:23.

some very real examples of the care crisis? The country, and as Age UK

:53:24.:53:30.

say 1.2 old emillion older people are missing out. The whole system is

:53:31.:53:34.

confeudsing, very complex, people don't know where to turn to for

:53:35.:53:39.

help. The local authorities are meant to provide assessments for

:53:40.:53:43.

people's needs, they are also meant to assess the needs of family carers

:53:44.:53:47.

as well. But many people struggle to get those basic rights, the basic

:53:48.:53:53.

assessments and it is a real postcode lottery. It depends on

:53:54.:53:56.

where you live and your local authority. Underlying this it is

:53:57.:54:01.

about funding. We have a big shortfall in funding, big cuts in

:54:02.:54:05.

social care funding over the last six years, while demand is

:54:06.:54:07.

increasing. People are living longer. But it is, obviously there

:54:08.:54:12.

are two parts of the same issue, it is different in that even if there

:54:13.:54:15.

was all the money in the world, to be funding it. If people are

:54:16.:54:20.

struggling to navigate a complex system, they are still not getting

:54:21.:54:24.

help when they need it, whether the money is there or not. The system

:54:25.:54:29.

could be made easier, there are people to help you through it and

:54:30.:54:33.

you can approach some of the national charities like Age UK or

:54:34.:54:38.

Independence Age or your local Age UK can provide you with advice and

:54:39.:54:44.

information but we need to make it simpler, some of the carers

:54:45.:54:48.

charities help provide... I want to get to the bottom of why it is

:54:49.:54:54.

complex. It is necessarily complex because people, very careful

:54:55.:54:56.

assessments have to be made to work out who is eligible for what, and

:54:57.:55:03.

that takes some time, but where does the complexity come in that might be

:55:04.:55:07.

able to be stripped out, if that is case? We need to make it easier for

:55:08.:55:13.

people to approach their local authority, but the other part is

:55:14.:55:16.

local authorities are becoming more defensive and increasing the gate

:55:17.:55:20.

keeping because they don't have the resources to meet the needs of

:55:21.:55:23.

people approaching them. So older people need to challenge that, their

:55:24.:55:27.

families need to challenge that, they needed a cats to help them

:55:28.:55:30.

challenge it and in some cases legal challenges. So are you saying that

:55:31.:55:36.

some authorities deliberately are using the complicated system to get

:55:37.:55:39.

out of having to pay for social care? Yes, there is no question

:55:40.:55:44.

about that. Local authorities should be providing assessments for

:55:45.:55:48.

everyone who approaches them and providing advice and information to

:55:49.:55:52.

them. Lynn, you were nodding at that, I mean obviously we don't know

:55:53.:55:55.

what your situation is with your local authority but you are

:55:56.:55:58.

frustrated by what is happening for you. I want to read an e-mail from

:55:59.:56:03.

Charles who say I am 86 and a career to my disabled wife. We have no

:56:04.:56:08.

living relatives. We have one good neighbour, we had a social worker

:56:09.:56:11.

who was lovely. She looked after Frances when I was in hospital,

:56:12.:56:15.

visited me and took her own Christmas dinner to traps is when I

:56:16.:56:20.

was in over one Christmas, the fact, Lynn, to you as well Michael, the

:56:21.:56:23.

fact you have got each other, the fact that Michael is there, do you

:56:24.:56:30.

feel that that, I mean it not right to say it would be, it is sort of

:56:31.:56:34.

gives you a safety net, does that sort of, do you think that might be

:56:35.:56:40.

a factor in when things are taking time, you know, there is somebody

:56:41.:56:45.

there who is helping you at least? Well, Michael has his own health

:56:46.:56:50.

issues which haven't been taken into consideration. And basically, I came

:56:51.:56:59.

out of hospital on 13th September, after a nine hour operation, and the

:57:00.:57:04.

day before, Social Services apparently sent me a letter, saying

:57:05.:57:08.

that they had withdrawn my allocation to my social worker and

:57:09.:57:14.

all my services had been refused and once I had recuperated, after this

:57:15.:57:21.

operation, which was neatly followed by a bilateral pneumonia, I could

:57:22.:57:25.

apply again. And Michael was working 24 hours

:57:26.:57:29.

round-the-clock, I couldn't do anything for myself. I couldn't etch

:57:30.:57:33.

access the bed for three weeks, Michael had to sleep on a two seater

:57:34.:57:40.

settee and I on a three seater settee, purely because I couldn't

:57:41.:57:43.

get into the bed. I couldn't do anything, dress, anything. Do you

:57:44.:57:46.

feel like you can carry on like this? Well, no. No we can't, no. No.

:57:47.:57:57.

There is a limit. To what you can cope with. You were very tired.

:57:58.:58:04.

Michael was very tired. Working 24 hours, seven days a week is, is not

:58:05.:58:09.

good for anybody, especially not for somebody who is nearly 72 and has,

:58:10.:58:14.

as I say, his own health issues any way. Sure, what will you do? Well,

:58:15.:58:23.

we are still challenging the, the system. And we are not going to give

:58:24.:58:30.

up, because there are a million people in our position. That are

:58:31.:58:35.

entitled to care and support package, but are currently not

:58:36.:58:39.

getting it. Thank you all very much for joining

:58:40.:58:42.

Thank you all very much for joining us and telling us.

:58:43.:58:46.

The Department of Health told us that they recognise the pressures

:58:47.:58:48.

of an ageing population, adding:

:58:49.:59:11.

Well, according to a new study, for three million of us it might.

:59:12.:59:18.

Carol. I can't see you Carol. Are you there? You are not here? You are

:59:19.:59:30.

not missing much. Good morning. Good morning to you too. This morning

:59:31.:59:34.

what we have is a bit of cloud but the cloud already breaking up, some

:59:35.:59:38.

of us have started with some sunshine, some of us have yet to see

:59:39.:59:43.

it. We have some rain in Scotland, strong winds here, rain in Northern

:59:44.:59:46.

Ireland, as we head on through the course of the afternoon and as we

:59:47.:59:51.

head through the evening and overnight that rain will push into

:59:52.:59:57.

Wales, northern -- northern England. Behind it for Scotland and northern

:59:58.:00:00.

England a cold night. There will be frost round, patchy fog, and ahead

:00:01.:00:04.

of it, in southern England we will see some patchy fog but not as much

:00:05.:00:08.

as we thought this time yesterday. So that leads us into tomorrow. The

:00:09.:00:14.

fog will lift, then for northern and North East parts we will see

:00:15.:00:17.

sunshine, elsewhere we start off on a cloudy note but like today, the

:00:18.:00:21.

cloud will turn over, some of us will see sunshine s out to the west

:00:22.:00:24.

we are going to see a few more showers, and despite the fact you

:00:25.:00:28.

can see temperatures between eight and 11 with some of us we could set

:00:29.:00:34.

12 or 13, possibly more in that mild trend continuing into the weekend

:00:35.:00:35.

and the early part of next Police arrest a third person

:00:36.:00:44.

in connection with the apparent poisoning

:00:45.:00:52.

of Kim Jong-nam, half-brother of

:00:53.:00:53.

North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un. And the youngest ever winner

:00:54.:01:01.

of EuroMillions has told this There's days when I feel

:01:02.:01:04.

like, I wish I hadn't. But there are days when I

:01:05.:01:08.

have a good day, like, I But there's days where in my head,

:01:09.:01:11.

I say, I wish I hadn't won it. And you can see the full

:01:12.:01:15.

interview with Jane Parks And why is so hard to talk

:01:16.:01:17.

about the menopause? The first time I had a hot sweat,

:01:18.:01:21.

it did take me by surprise. I kept going, "What's that,

:01:22.:01:27.

what am I sitting on?" We'll also talk about HRT,

:01:28.:01:29.

and the contradictions around Here's Ben in the BBC Newsroom

:01:30.:01:35.

with a summary of today's news. Police in Malysia have now arrested

:01:36.:01:51.

a total of three people in connection with the suspected

:01:52.:01:58.

poisoning of the North Korean They are reported to be a woman

:01:59.:02:04.

identified on CCTV footage and her boyfriend.

:02:05.:02:06.

Kim Jong Nam was taken ill waiting for a flight in Kuala Lumpur.

:02:07.:02:14.

The South Korean government claim North Korean agents were responsible

:02:15.:02:16.

as Kevin Kim explains. The person detained was carrying

:02:17.:02:21.

an Indonesian passport, but North Korean agents

:02:22.:02:23.

are known for travelling So it's quite likely

:02:24.:02:26.

an investigation may Earlier, Malaysian authorities

:02:27.:02:34.

released a photo taken from a security camera,

:02:35.:02:41.

who was thought to be The South Korean Spy Agency

:02:42.:02:43.

believe it may have been A colour image of

:02:44.:02:48.

a young Asian woman with heavy

:02:49.:02:58.

make-up and casual clothes, several other members believed to be

:02:59.:03:00.

part of the same group are being pursued according

:03:01.:03:03.

to local media. More than three million people

:03:04.:03:04.

could avoid getting colds and flu every year by taking

:03:05.:03:07.

Vitamin D supplements The study in the British Medical

:03:08.:03:09.

Journal calls for the vitamin But Public Health England says

:03:10.:03:13.

the evidence remains inconclusive. The Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson

:03:14.:03:20.

will meet his American counterpart Rex Tillerson later today

:03:21.:03:25.

for the first time since Mr Tillerson was confirmed

:03:26.:03:28.

as President Trump's The two men will be attending

:03:29.:03:32.

a meeting of foreign ministers The US State Department has

:03:33.:03:35.

indicated that Mr Tillerson will try to provide a comforting

:03:36.:03:40.

message to countries made uneasy by the apparent changes in

:03:41.:03:43.

America's foreign policy positions. President Trump, meanwhile,

:03:44.:03:53.

has suffered another set-back in his efforts to finalise

:03:54.:03:55.

the line-up of his cabinet. His choice for Labor Secretary,

:03:56.:03:57.

Andrew Puzder, has withdrawn from the nomination process

:03:58.:04:00.

after several Republican senators Mr Puzder has admitted that he once

:04:01.:04:01.

employed a housekeeper who wasn't Social care for elderly people

:04:02.:04:08.

is on the brink of collapse in some parts of England,

:04:09.:04:16.

according to the charity Age UK. It says more than 50,000 people

:04:17.:04:21.

are now not receiving any help, despite struggling with daily tasks

:04:22.:04:24.

such as washing, eating The Government says it recognises

:04:25.:04:26.

the pressures on the system and is working on a long term,

:04:27.:04:33.

sustainable solution. Britain's most senior judge has

:04:34.:04:37.

criticised sections of the press for their coverage of the Article 50

:04:38.:04:41.

court ruling, which said Parliament had to be consulted before

:04:42.:04:45.

the formal process for leaving The present of the Supreme Court

:04:46.:04:56.

Lord Neuberger also accused politicians of not being quick

:04:57.:04:58.

enough to defend the judicial process.

:04:59.:05:00.

A mother and teenage son have been arrested after she allegedly

:05:01.:05:03.

faked her death in Zanzibar in a bid to claim ?140,000

:05:04.:05:06.

Police said the 45-year-old woman's son and his guardian claimed she had

:05:07.:05:15.

died in a car crash in East Africa and allegedly provided

:05:16.:05:17.

But instead, she was actually living in Canada.

:05:18.:05:33.

The insurance company was unable to verify the woman's death,

:05:34.:05:36.

refused to pay out on the policy and contacted police.

:05:37.:05:38.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News. More at 10:30.

:05:39.:05:41.

We will talk about menopause in a few moments. Lynn on Facebook, seven

:05:42.:05:45.

years of mood swings and my family living with a monster one minute and

:05:46.:05:49.

a mother and wife the next. The doctor was useless, having tried

:05:50.:05:52.

HRT, and developed lumps in my breast, herbal remedies made it

:05:53.:05:56.

slightly better. No libido has affected my marriage, but we are

:05:57.:06:00.

working through it. Teen on Facebook, can cope with the hot

:06:01.:06:05.

flushes, it is the insomnia and forgetfulness. -- Tina.

:06:06.:06:12.

Do get in touch with us throughout the morning.

:06:13.:06:14.

Use the hashtag, #VictoriaLive, and if you text, you will be charged

:06:15.:06:17.

There's been an update this morning on the future of Arsene Wenger.

:06:18.:06:38.

BBC Sport understands the club will wait until the end

:06:39.:06:40.

of the season before making a decision on his future.

:06:41.:06:49.

Last night they had a torrid result in the first knockout stage

:06:50.:06:52.

of the Champions League - they were thrashed 5-1

:06:53.:06:54.

Arjen Robben opened the scoring with this strike.

:06:55.:07:07.

Arsenal's Alexis Sanchez eventually put in the rebound from his own

:07:08.:07:09.

Bayern were simply too good for Arsenal

:07:10.:07:13.

in the the second half, two goals from Thiago mean Arsenal

:07:14.:07:16.

now face elimination at the last 16 stage for the seventh

:07:17.:07:18.

The problems we faced after the third goal. We lost our organisation

:07:19.:07:32.

and we looked mentally jaded and vulnerable from that moment onwards.

:07:33.:07:40.

The last 25 minutes a nightmare for us.

:07:41.:07:45.

Arsenal weren't helped by injury to their captain

:07:46.:07:47.

Laurent Koscielny, whilst saves from goalkeeper David Ospina stopped

:07:48.:07:49.

On BBC Radio 5live, journalist Henry Winter gave his view

:07:50.:07:54.

This is a crime of call -- chronicle of death foretold. The owner doesn't

:07:55.:08:07.

commute Kate with fans and is sleepwalking towards the abyss. We

:08:08.:08:11.

have got a manager in Arsene Wenger whose best days are behind him.

:08:12.:08:15.

Everyone can see that. Even the faithful at Arsenal can really see

:08:16.:08:22.

that this is a manager overtaken by Conte, copper and other managers.

:08:23.:08:25.

You have a lack of leadership on the pitch as well, Koscielny with

:08:26.:08:32.

Sanchez has been one of macro as well few leaders. -- too few

:08:33.:08:38.

leaders. Arsene Wenger has lost his leadership skills, and there is no

:08:39.:08:42.

invincible streak in Arsene Wenger any more, no invincible streak in

:08:43.:08:43.

the team any more. 11 time winners Real Madrid came

:08:44.:08:50.

from behind to beat Napoli Brazilian midfielder Casemiro scored

:08:51.:08:53.

the pick of the goals There has been a blow to Scotland

:08:54.:09:01.

hopes in the six Nations. Greg Laidlaw has been ruled out for the

:09:02.:09:06.

rest of the tournament. He suffered an ankle injury last weekend, and

:09:07.:09:11.

although he managed to walk off, the scrum-half sustained ligament

:09:12.:09:11.

damage. Defending champion Ronnie O'Sullivan

:09:12.:09:14.

is out of snooker's Welsh Open after losing 4-3 to Mark Davis

:09:15.:09:16.

in the second round. Meanwhile, a 15 year old schoolboy

:09:17.:09:19.

will have to take more time Jackson Page had to get

:09:20.:09:22.

permission to be off school to play John Astley,

:09:23.:09:30.

and now he's into the third Good news for him. Congratulations.

:09:31.:09:32.

That is all the sport for now. Two more suspects have this morning

:09:33.:09:44.

been arrested in connection with the killing of the North Korean

:09:45.:09:46.

leader's brother in Malaysia. Kim Jong-nan is thought to have been

:09:47.:09:49.

poisoned as he waited to board The detention of the Indonesian

:09:50.:09:53.

woman and Malaysian man follows the earlier arrest of another woman,

:09:54.:09:57.

apparently from Vietnam. In a moment we'll be talking

:09:58.:09:59.

to a political analyst in Korea, but first, this is

:10:00.:10:02.

what we know so far. We are now joined via webcam

:10:03.:11:00.

from Seoul by Seong-Hyon Lee, from the Sejong Institute -

:11:01.:11:03.

a leading South Korean think tank that researches national

:11:04.:11:05.

security and unification. North Korea is actually claiming

:11:06.:11:16.

he's not even dead, it's all part of a plot to discredit the regime in

:11:17.:11:19.

North Korea. What is your perspective on what has happened

:11:20.:11:22.

here? I think we still have to wait and

:11:23.:11:28.

see, but then, I think the background is interesting here. The

:11:29.:11:34.

job administration in the US is in the process of coming up with the

:11:35.:11:42.

kind of policy to take to North Korea. The North Korean and ship...

:11:43.:12:02.

there will be a fraction of strategies that do not negotiate

:12:03.:12:08.

with North Korea because North Korea is unstable. There are details

:12:09.:12:12.

missing from the narrative that we have heard about so far.

:12:13.:12:17.

On the matter of power struggles, it is being said

:12:18.:12:24.

It has been said there was a previous assassination attempt and

:12:25.:12:31.

he wrote to Kim Jong-un and begged him to spare him. He said he had no

:12:32.:12:36.

ambitions and was living in exile. So why would Kim Jong-un be

:12:37.:12:40.

convinced apparently that there was some sort of plot? My understanding

:12:41.:12:47.

is that there has to be a standing order, to kill his older brother,

:12:48.:12:53.

and the timing is interesting. There is a lot of speculation but my

:12:54.:12:57.

understanding is that timing is not an issue really because there has

:12:58.:13:02.

been a standing order to kill him or assassinate him. Also it has to do

:13:03.:13:06.

with the character of the dictator in North Korea who wants to make

:13:07.:13:16.

sure that even though Kim Jong-Nam doesn't have any power base in North

:13:17.:13:21.

Korea, he just wants to make sure that no stone is unturned. He wants

:13:22.:13:34.

to get rid of him, and wants to be without the presence of his elder

:13:35.:13:40.

brother who could pose, a threat coming is taken seriously by his

:13:41.:13:43.

paranoid younger brother, the dictator. It says North Korea is

:13:44.:13:48.

trying to resist their being a postmortem. Can they control and

:13:49.:13:56.

manage this? It depends on the power struggle between different

:13:57.:14:04.

stakeholders. They are trying to get more information about the party of

:14:05.:14:10.

Kim Jong-un so that they can have that intelligence on the ground and

:14:11.:14:14.

find out what will happen. But my understanding is that one Malaysian

:14:15.:14:21.

authority announced that, given the passport which belongs to North

:14:22.:14:26.

Korea, Kim Jong-Nam is a North Korean citizen. I think they will

:14:27.:14:34.

repatriate him. There are governments in Seoul, Tokyo and

:14:35.:14:37.

Beijing and they want to have as much information as possible about

:14:38.:14:42.

the dead person's identity and relative information as well. Thank

:14:43.:14:48.

you very much. Now the menopause happens to every woman so why is it

:14:49.:14:52.

something that we talk about so little? With women living on average

:14:53.:14:58.

30 years after it what's the best way to deal with this change to our

:14:59.:15:05.

bodies? A new documentary by Kirsty Wark who herself went through it

:15:06.:15:09.

after having a hysterectomy is on tonight. It takes an unflinching

:15:10.:15:13.

look at the menopause and asks if women who suffer side-effects have

:15:14.:15:17.

been needlessly denied hormone replacement therapy figures. The

:15:18.:15:24.

most common treatment for menopausal symptoms is hormone replacement

:15:25.:15:28.

therapy, HRT, it helps replace the oestrogen lost when ovaries stop

:15:29.:15:32.

producing eggs. It can be taken through patches, a gel, or tablets.

:15:33.:15:37.

But it has been hard to work out if it is wise to take HRT. This is due

:15:38.:15:43.

to the confusion ignited by the publication of the women's health

:15:44.:15:48.

initiative study in America back in 2002. The study casts serious doubt

:15:49.:16:00.

on the safety of HRT. One study cancelled, says the Guardian, HRT

:16:01.:16:08.

does more harm than good, in 2002, 2008, new cancer fear for women

:16:09.:16:14.

taking HRT, and then, HRT is safe for millions of women again. 1

:16:15.:16:21.

million women could benefit from HRT. This is why it is all so

:16:22.:16:29.

confusing. I was using HRT tablets for three years after my

:16:30.:16:35.

hysterectomy but I stopped suddenly like so many women because of this

:16:36.:16:41.

scare. So in 2002 the results of the women's health get study came out

:16:42.:16:46.

and it suggested that being on HRT hugely increased your chances of

:16:47.:16:53.

breast cancer, even if you had been taking it for a short periods are a

:16:54.:16:57.

lot of women stopped because of this risk. Lots with no discussion with a

:16:58.:17:01.

health professional, they stopped cold turkey. People stopped coming

:17:02.:17:03.

to ask for HRT and GPs became It's a vicious circle. Circle.

:17:04.:17:17.

Subsequent research suggested that the analysis of the data was flawed

:17:18.:17:21.

and that the findings were overstated but these more positive

:17:22.:17:25.

reappraisals received nothing like the same publicity as the original

:17:26.:17:30.

square. More up-to-date research has attempted to offer clarification of

:17:31.:17:34.

the risks involved. The insiders guide to the menopause

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is on at 9.00 tonight for viewers in Scotland and for everyone on the

:17:43.:17:44.

iPlayers. Julie Chandler who experienced

:17:45.:18:10.

severe menopause side effects, thank you all welcome. Kirstie, like so

:18:11.:18:16.

many normal things that we go through, we don't actually foe that

:18:17.:18:19.

much about it until something happens to you and then you think

:18:20.:18:24.

why didn't I know? People will be experiencing symptoms not knowing

:18:25.:18:28.

they are symptoms of menopause. That is is right. The idea that something

:18:29.:18:33.

called low mood affects a lot of women who go to their GPs and some

:18:34.:18:38.

don't prescribe antidepressants but some do. That is not the treatment

:18:39.:18:43.

that you should be having. And it is the very fact we don't discuss it

:18:44.:18:47.

and we all go through it, usually round the age of 50. Height of

:18:48.:18:54.

careers, and it is a taboo. I want everybody to say look we need to

:18:55.:18:57.

talk about it, deal with it and various treatments that women are

:18:58.:19:01.

entitled to. You say, people going through it at height of career now,

:19:02.:19:05.

no-one likes to expose something that look like a weakness and a

:19:06.:19:10.

vulnerability. Absolutely. There is that perception. You know what I am

:19:11.:19:14.

not sure it would be the same if all men went through it. What do you

:19:15.:19:19.

think Let us ask the man. What do you think? I have been through the

:19:20.:19:24.

menopause. And survived. We do have them but not quite the same. Let us

:19:25.:19:30.

talk about your experiences. Kirstie you had an instant menopause. I had

:19:31.:19:34.

to have a hysterectomy. My consultant said you are having one,

:19:35.:19:38.

do you want to keep your ovaries and ovarian cancer is very much a hidden

:19:39.:19:43.

killers I had my kids, and I wasn't going to be having any more. I

:19:44.:19:47.

thought, no I am going, it is all going, it went, so instantly I went

:19:48.:19:52.

into menopause so the next morning, straight after I started taking HRT.

:19:53.:19:57.

And it worked? It did. I felt great. And then, two things happened. There

:19:58.:20:01.

was the study, the big study in America but a friend of mine who was

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on HRT for ten years and had a precancerous breast lump and was

:20:10.:20:13.

told best to get off it. That makes you feel nervous and worried so I

:20:14.:20:21.

went cold turkey -- hurt I can. Diane you had the ovarian cancer

:20:22.:20:27.

scare, so you had the hysterectomy, instant menopause, what was it like

:20:28.:20:32.

for you? Pretty hideous, that is mainly because I hadn't been given

:20:33.:20:38.

the information I needed. Were you not given any warning about what

:20:39.:20:42.

would happen? I had my Health Service recollect meh and I left the

:20:43.:20:46.

hospital after two days but I wasn't given any information. I was told to

:20:47.:20:50.

see my GP in a few weeks' time, which I did but unfortunately my mum

:20:51.:20:56.

had had ovarian cancer, so I was aware there was a type of HRT, but

:20:57.:21:02.

it was not one that I was willing to take, because of the way it was

:21:03.:21:08.

made. It is animal derived. Thankfully it is quite restricted in

:21:09.:21:12.

its use now in the UK, but I didn't realise there was a second body

:21:13.:21:16.

identical type of HRT, and so for that reason, I chose to go and see a

:21:17.:21:22.

clinic and take some, try and take herbs and minerals which was never

:21:23.:21:26.

going to do it for somebody in my position who had had their ovaries

:21:27.:21:30.

removed but no, there was no information for me about that, so,

:21:31.:21:34.

eventually, when things got really hideous, and a lot of it for me was

:21:35.:21:41.

emotional and mental, I ended up essentially in a really deep, dark

:21:42.:21:45.

place, where I considered taking my own life, and at that point, my

:21:46.:21:49.

husband picked me up, took me to the doctors, which he had been trying to

:21:50.:21:54.

persuade me to do for ages but I was terrified because I thought they

:21:55.:21:58.

would put me on anti-depleasants. Went back to the doctor, she said

:21:59.:22:05.

you have a choice there is a second type of HRT, it is plant derived. It

:22:06.:22:10.

is body identical. Why did it take so long? It takes thatening long,

:22:11.:22:15.

there are, I run an organisation now call menopause support, which

:22:16.:22:19.

supports women and I speak to women every week, of every day, who are

:22:20.:22:23.

struggling to get the right information or they are turning up

:22:24.:22:27.

at the surgery and the GP doesn't know what to tell them. Julie, you

:22:28.:22:33.

also had early surgical menopause because of ovarian cancer, did it

:22:34.:22:39.

feel like a taboo to you, when you suddenly were plunged into

:22:40.:22:43.

menopause? Well, I had my ovaries out as a preventative because I was

:22:44.:22:47.

at high risk of cancer, it was a terrible shock for me in terms of

:22:48.:22:50.

the symptoms I had. I wasn't prepared for it. I didn't have

:22:51.:22:55.

information. I had to fight to get HRT. I was led to believe by my

:22:56.:23:00.

genetic councillor who supported me through the surgeries I would be put

:23:01.:23:11.

on HRT but my surgeon and GP said I had BRCA2 positive jeans. Like some

:23:12.:23:16.

of your other -- genes. The symptoms were unbelievable. There was no way

:23:17.:23:20.

I could function as a normal professional woman going about her

:23:21.:23:23.

life without some sort of help and having tried everything out there,

:23:24.:23:26.

like one of your guests in the studio, there was nothing else that

:23:27.:23:32.

was doing anything to help the symptoms, and I needed something

:23:33.:23:35.

serious that was going to help me and finally I managed to get on the

:23:36.:23:39.

HRT which put everything back to normal again. Is Janice, I mean, it

:23:40.:23:45.

sounds like talking obviously to these women, and many others out

:23:46.:23:50.

there, that HRT is a no brainer but it has been through controversies.

:23:51.:23:56.

It has, but I agree, I think it is a no-brainer for women, and I am a

:23:57.:24:00.

clinician, I see women coming who are doing the dance of the

:24:01.:24:04.

desperate. The quality of life is shocking, particularly professional

:24:05.:24:07.

women, they are no functioning at the level they were before and HRT

:24:08.:24:12.

can transform their life, as well as that, they are getting protection

:24:13.:24:16.

against cardiovascular disease and it is looking after their bones, I

:24:17.:24:19.

think it's a no brainer that women who are having symptoms the and are

:24:20.:24:23.

feeling lousy should be going on to hormone replacement therapy. What

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Kirstie said is right, that the scandal that it has happened against

:24:29.:24:31.

women because of the study that came out in 2002, we have this whole

:24:32.:24:38.

generation of GPs and doctors in training who will not prescribe HRT,

:24:39.:24:42.

they are terrified of it. Fortunately the pendulum is swinging

:24:43.:24:45.

back and women are getting more information, they are desperate and

:24:46.:24:50.

getting more educated. They have been deprived of hormone replacement

:24:51.:24:55.

therapy and I think is scandalous. The Nice guidelines that came out in

:24:56.:25:00.

town 15 say every woman should have individual liced care from their GP.

:25:01.:25:05.

Any woman needs to go to their GP and sit there and sit there until

:25:06.:25:10.

they get some positive advice. Because women don't go because they

:25:11.:25:13.

don't think there is anything for them. You are not so convinced by

:25:14.:25:20.

HRT? I am convinced by HRT as a cure for some of the symptoms, But you

:25:21.:25:26.

are concerned about the side effects. Women with serious symptoms

:25:27.:25:32.

need HRT. They should take it. But it does carry risk, if you look at

:25:33.:25:40.

the epidemiology properly you can't say it protects against

:25:41.:25:43.

cardiovascular disease, because it doesn't. That aside though, whether

:25:44.:25:51.

you think it protects against something else or not, that is not a

:25:52.:25:59.

harm. What? You sayer owe questioning whether it protect

:26:00.:26:03.

against cardios vascular disease. It increases the risks of stroke and

:26:04.:26:11.

the risk of MI. By how much That is the thing you have said that and

:26:12.:26:17.

there are millions of woman who will say maybe I shouldn't have is it. It

:26:18.:26:21.

is about quality of life. I agree with you. Completely about quality

:26:22.:26:28.

of life. But what it says it is protects against that disease, it

:26:29.:26:34.

doesn't. It pro#1r50ids if taken at the time of ovarian failure and you

:26:35.:26:39.

know that, the zudys the mean age was 63. I have ever in as a

:26:40.:26:44.

clinician started HRT in a woman at 63. You start at the time of

:26:45.:26:50.

menopause, if do you that you provide some protection against

:26:51.:26:55.

cardiovascular disease. We did a study, we took the submission who

:26:56.:27:01.

had done smallish trials, random miced to HRT or not and they were

:27:02.:27:06.

all menopausal, aged 50. They were taking HRT. If you pull the studies

:27:07.:27:10.

together of which there are 300 and we published this, there is a small

:27:11.:27:15.

increase in cardiovascular disease which is the same as the increase in

:27:16.:27:20.

cardiovascular disease the WHI study showed. It St the case that it does

:27:21.:27:24.

not protect against cardiovascular disease at the very best. The big

:27:25.:27:31.

initial controversy was about risk, breast cancer risk, and that has

:27:32.:27:36.

now, the guidance on that has been changed. Yes because there is a

:27:37.:27:40.

strong vested interest to believe HRT is safe. You don't believe it?

:27:41.:27:47.

It causes breast cancer. No, no, no. You cannot say, you can't put out a

:27:48.:27:52.

statement that says that HRT causes breast cancer. It does not cause

:27:53.:28:00.

breast cancer, you would know that better than I. You are talking about

:28:01.:28:05.

HRT causing breast cancer, I don't believe it is, o boos thety is a

:28:06.:28:12.

much bigger risk far for. It is not. I am an academic, I have done

:28:13.:28:17.

research trials, and I think if you are a clinician, dealing with women

:28:18.:28:21.

then you have to appreciate improving quality of life, improving

:28:22.:28:26.

longevity and not scaremongering women about the risk. I want to

:28:27.:28:35.

bring in some comments. We are getting so many,ing about that

:28:36.:28:38.

point. I am an academic, I have done research trials, and I think if you

:28:39.:28:40.

are a clinician, dealing with women then you have to appreciate

:28:41.:28:42.

improving quality of life, improving longevity and not scaremongering

:28:43.:28:44.

women about the risk. I want to bring in some comments. We are

:28:45.:28:47.

getting so many,ing about that point. Hayley says "I am 42. I

:28:48.:28:49.

suffered premenopausal symptoms and doctors should provide nutritional

:28:50.:28:51.

advice. I changed all my foods and have no symptoms, I had no support

:28:52.:28:56.

from doctors or help. How much training in nutrition do doctors

:28:57.:29:02.

get.". Jan said I had terrible flushes. I had other symptoms which

:29:03.:29:08.

have lessoned or gone. Carol said I went through the menopause at 52.

:29:09.:29:13.

Fortunately I didn't suffer too badly with hot flush, I am 64. I

:29:14.:29:19.

have had no libido, I have not been able to have intercows because it is

:29:20.:29:25.

painful. Karen says I was having 12-15 hot flushes in 24 hours. It

:29:26.:29:30.

woke me up through the night. I am taking natural pills, it has cut my

:29:31.:29:35.

hot flushes in half and I am sleeping through the night. Susan

:29:36.:29:40.

say I have been on HRT for 23 years. It is the only thing that works. I

:29:41.:29:45.

used to have hot flushes and sweats every half hour sometimes. People

:29:46.:29:51.

are saying, people will have different things that work. There is

:29:52.:29:58.

no silver bullet, nor are there identical symptoms. The one I didn't

:29:59.:30:02.

know about was joint pain. I interviewed a woman who was a great

:30:03.:30:06.

runner, and suddenly she had joint pain and she was only in her mid

:30:07.:30:12.

40s. She couldn't believe it. It was an early menopausal symptom. Why

:30:13.:30:17.

aren't we told this? It is as if you are at school, you are taught about

:30:18.:30:21.

puberty and someone says is half way through your life you will

:30:22.:30:25.

experience different things, no-one is told and we are 51% of the

:30:26.:30:29.

population. And now, I mean, that is the thing,

:30:30.:30:33.

you have done this documentary, to get people talking about it. Get

:30:34.:30:37.

people thinking about it. Why do you think it has taken so long? This is

:30:38.:30:42.

a male dominated world, I don't know. It is right. Education in

:30:43.:30:46.

schools, universities and whatever, we don't talk enough about the

:30:47.:30:49.

menopause. That is is a terrible thing.

:30:50.:30:53.

Do we self police a bit? The fear of revealing something about yourself?

:30:54.:31:03.

Absolutely. And also the fact is that some women have these huge mood

:31:04.:31:09.

swings. Senior colleagues of mine said a red mist offence and their

:31:10.:31:15.

family were mortified. It is so debilitating. We need to deal with

:31:16.:31:20.

these things as well. For those women and their families, and

:31:21.:31:23.

friends, it is very difficult. We need to talk about this stuff. And

:31:24.:31:28.

partners. I have spoken to men, they will say,

:31:29.:31:33.

I think my wife... I think my wife is going mad. She's not going mad.

:31:34.:31:43.

Menopausal symptoms are very often emotional. It is not flushes. That

:31:44.:31:49.

is the thing that particularly doctors find difficult to recognise.

:31:50.:31:54.

That is why so many women end up on antidepressants. For families, for

:31:55.:31:58.

couples, for relationships, libido changes, nobody wants to talk about

:31:59.:32:03.

a lack of sex drive, and that is a huge part of this puzzle. If we

:32:04.:32:08.

talked about it earlier, kids could help their mums. I didn't realise

:32:09.:32:17.

that my mother went through an early menopause at 46 when I was 16, what

:32:18.:32:22.

a combination that was, adolescent and menopause! LAUGHTER

:32:23.:32:30.

You are right. It is good to talk. It really is. We

:32:31.:32:35.

have got people talking at home, getting in touch on it.

:32:36.:32:43.

Thank you very much all of you. Keep your thoughts coming in. Loads of

:32:44.:32:51.

comments from you already, and we would love to hear more.

:32:52.:32:54.

Parents of children with cystic fibrosis fined for taking their kids

:32:55.:32:58.

We speak to one family and the charity offering

:32:59.:33:01.

And we'll be talking Emma Freud, the scriptwriter and director

:33:02.:33:06.

of Love Actually, as the cast return for a one off

:33:07.:33:09.

I cannot wait for that. We will find out what is happening with all our

:33:10.:33:21.

favourite characters. With the News, here's Ben

:33:22.:33:23.

in the BBC Newsroom. Police in Malaysia have arrested two

:33:24.:33:26.

more people in connection with the death of the half-brother

:33:27.:33:29.

of North Korean leader King Jong-Un. They're reported to be a woman

:33:30.:33:33.

identified from CCTV Another woman was

:33:34.:33:35.

arrested yesterday. Kim Jong-nam was taken ill

:33:36.:33:43.

and later died, after apparently being attacked on Monday

:33:44.:33:45.

while waiting for a flight in The South Korean government

:33:46.:33:48.

claims North Korean agents Chinese state TV has just broadcast

:33:49.:33:51.

footage of one suspect in the investigation

:33:52.:33:57.

being driven away from a police The woman in the yellow top getting

:33:58.:33:59.

into the car is believed to be one However, this has not

:34:00.:34:10.

yet been verified. The Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson

:34:11.:34:13.

will meet his American counterpart Rex Tillerson today,

:34:14.:34:17.

for the first time since Mr Tillerson was confirmed

:34:18.:34:19.

as President Trump's The two men will be attending

:34:20.:34:21.

a meeting of foreign ministers The US State Department has

:34:22.:34:25.

indicated that Mr Tillerson will try to provide a comforting

:34:26.:34:32.

message to countries made uneasy by the apparent changes in America's

:34:33.:34:35.

foreign policy positions. Social care for elderly people

:34:36.:34:39.

is on the brink of collapse in some parts of England,

:34:40.:34:41.

according to the charity Age UK. It says more than 50,000 people

:34:42.:34:46.

are now not receiving any help, despite struggling with daily tasks

:34:47.:34:49.

such as washing, eating The Government says it recognises

:34:50.:34:52.

the pressures on the system and is working on a long term,

:34:53.:35:00.

sustainable solution. Britain's most senior judge has

:35:01.:35:04.

criticised sections of the press for their coverage of the Article 50

:35:05.:35:08.

court ruling, which said Parliament had to be consulted before

:35:09.:35:12.

the formal process for leaving The President of the Supreme Court,

:35:13.:35:14.

Lord Neuberger, also accused politicians of not being

:35:15.:35:21.

quick enough to defend That's a summary of the latest news,

:35:22.:35:23.

join me for BBC Newsroom Arsenal will wait until the end of

:35:24.:35:42.

the season to make a decision on their manager Arsene Wenger. That

:35:43.:35:47.

follows a huge first leg thrashing at Bayern Munich, it finished 5-1 in

:35:48.:35:50.

the Champions League. Real Madrid beat Napoli 3-1 in their first leg,

:35:51.:36:01.

this is the pick of the goals. Greg Laidlaw will miss the rest of the

:36:02.:36:04.

six Nations with an ankle injury, picked up in the defeat by France at

:36:05.:36:08.

the weekend. Finally, Mercedes have announced another technical

:36:09.:36:12.

director, James Allison, formerly of curare and Renault, filling the role

:36:13.:36:15.

left by Paddy Lowe. More after 11am. The controversial practice

:36:16.:36:24.

of issuing fines to parents who take their children out

:36:25.:36:26.

of school to go on holiday during term time is being criticised

:36:27.:36:29.

by a charity who say that even the parents of children with serious

:36:30.:36:32.

illness like cystic fibrosis are being told they will have

:36:33.:36:35.

to pay the penalties. We can speak now to Hannah

:36:36.:36:38.

Lindley, who was able to enjoy one last holiday

:36:39.:36:41.

with her sister Iona before The holiday was taken during term

:36:42.:36:43.

time, but no fine was issued in that Laurie Howard who runs

:36:44.:36:50.

a charity that gives grants for sufferers of Cystic Fibrosis to

:36:51.:36:54.

go on holiday with their families, Nazleen Ebrahim,

:36:55.:36:57.

who did face a fine when she took her son Raihan on holiday,

:36:58.:37:02.

Raihan also has cystic fibrosis. From Nottingham, we can also speak

:37:03.:37:06.

to Lewis Wagner an assistant Thank you all for joining us. Tell

:37:07.:37:16.

us what happened, because you were fined for taking your son out of

:37:17.:37:19.

school during term time, why did you do it?

:37:20.:37:27.

He had cystic cypresses -- has. We have days when he is well enough to

:37:28.:37:31.

travel, and not. For the first couple of years of his life, he was

:37:32.:37:37.

not permitted to travel at all. So we took permission from the doctor,

:37:38.:37:43.

took him, and he was well enough to travel. Once we got the go-ahead

:37:44.:37:47.

from the doctors, we thought, that's fine. So we booked a flight four

:37:48.:37:56.

days prior to departing. We booked a flight for 10th of December 2015, so

:37:57.:38:03.

it was going to overlap the Christmas holidays anyway, flying

:38:04.:38:10.

out for 14 days. We spoke to the teacher, and they said it is

:38:11.:38:13.

understandable, if all is well and he has the go-ahead from his doctor.

:38:14.:38:18.

We went on holiday, had an amazing time. We came back, received a

:38:19.:38:23.

letter through the post from the council to say we had been fined. At

:38:24.:38:29.

that point, I was shocked and confused. So I went to the school,

:38:30.:38:34.

and they said we would have two approach the council. So we

:38:35.:38:42.

approached the council. -- have two approach. The council said it was

:38:43.:38:47.

the school's discretion to find us. It is, it is at the discretion of

:38:48.:38:52.

the school whether you are able to take your child out. What you are

:38:53.:38:58.

experiencing is what the families of other children have experience. But

:38:59.:39:05.

because your son has cystic fibrosis, is it financial or

:39:06.:39:10.

practical consideration? It is all aspects. The practical

:39:11.:39:16.

aspect and medical basis, the fact that he might not be well enough to

:39:17.:39:22.

travel, it is very difficult to be able to foresee what is going to

:39:23.:39:26.

happen, even in the following weeks. So I can't plan a holiday ahead,

:39:27.:39:33.

even months in advance, because you never know what is around the

:39:34.:39:37.

corner. Hannah, I mentioned that your sister

:39:38.:39:42.

very sadly died of cystic fibrosis, but before she died, your family

:39:43.:39:47.

managed to go on a holiday, and the school was compassionate about that.

:39:48.:39:52.

Yeah, the school were really supportive. They fully understood

:39:53.:39:56.

why it was so important that we went on holiday together as a family. I

:39:57.:40:01.

have got a little brother and a little sister, and for them, when we

:40:02.:40:06.

came out, that is when she became critically ill and died. That

:40:07.:40:10.

holiday is the last happy memory they have got with Iona. The cystic

:40:11.:40:18.

fibrosis holiday fund helped us with grants to go, and they wouldn't have

:40:19.:40:24.

those happy memories without that. Coming back and getting fired, and

:40:25.:40:27.

the stress of sorting that out, it would have been impossible to deal

:40:28.:40:31.

with that because Iona was so critically ill that she nearly died

:40:32.:40:36.

when we got home. In that situation, there needs to be leniency, because

:40:37.:40:41.

you can't help the circumstances. You can't make a change.

:40:42.:40:48.

The situation, as described, it is difficult to work out when you need

:40:49.:40:55.

to go, because of health considerations, is that why you went

:40:56.:40:59.

in terms time? Why did you go in terms time?

:41:00.:41:04.

At that point, that was when Iona was well. With cystic fibrosis, the

:41:05.:41:10.

issue you face, really, is it is a massive unknown. You can be

:41:11.:41:13.

completely fine one way, and within a couple of weeks, you can be dead.

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You have to seize the opportunity whilst you have got the opportunity,

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just do it. Everything else has to be put on hold.

:41:24.:41:31.

Let's bring in Lewis Wagner, you are assistant head at a secondary

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school, what do you think about term time holidays?

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From the standpoint of education, we are primarily there to ensure that

:41:40.:41:43.

education happens, and that can only happen with good attendance by

:41:44.:41:48.

students. The policy is clear from the government regulations, and

:41:49.:41:52.

state that you had to apply to a head teacher if you wish to be

:41:53.:41:55.

considered for exceptional circumstances to take a child out of

:41:56.:42:00.

school. The school will make sure the policy is followed... on cystic

:42:01.:42:06.

fibrosis specifically and other serious conditions, should that

:42:07.:42:11.

always automatically be a special condition? And permission given?

:42:12.:42:17.

A case-by-case basis, you apply to the headteacher for the exceptional

:42:18.:42:22.

circumstances. I imagine, with cystic fibrosis being the condition

:42:23.:42:25.

it is, it is something that would be taken into consideration. It is nice

:42:26.:42:29.

to hear from the people you have there that the school was

:42:30.:42:31.

supportive. In one case, it was, but in the

:42:32.:42:34.

other, there was a fine. What do you think about a fine?

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The fine was from the local authority, and I correct in saying?

:42:40.:42:44.

Yeah. The school is not necessary for the fine, it is for ensuring

:42:45.:42:48.

attendance and unauthorised absence. I can't speak on the half of that

:42:49.:42:54.

local authority, unfortunately. You are with the cystic fibrosis

:42:55.:43:01.

holiday fund, how much parents of kids with cystic fibrosis fined for

:43:02.:43:06.

taking them out of school in term time?

:43:07.:43:08.

It feels like a bit of a postcode lottery. Some councils issued tens

:43:09.:43:12.

of thousands of pounds of fines and councils that don't issue any fined

:43:13.:43:17.

at all. It isn't a problem we have experienced with everybody, but it

:43:18.:43:20.

is a problem that is coming up with more frequency. As we have started

:43:21.:43:25.

recently organising fully paid holidays, as opposed to the grants

:43:26.:43:29.

we have given in the past to families to help a four-day holiday,

:43:30.:43:34.

some of the fully paid holidays given are in term time. More and

:43:35.:43:40.

more families have said to us, being able to take a fully paid for

:43:41.:43:43.

holiday of a lifetime because they might be fined on their return.

:43:44.:43:50.

It is a slightly controversial position, putting out fully paid for

:43:51.:43:55.

holidays in term time, encouraging parents to break guidelines.

:43:56.:44:00.

We didn't think so. We thought with cystic fibrosis it would be pretty

:44:01.:44:05.

clear for children with a disease that is ultimately terminal and

:44:06.:44:09.

never goes away. Parents are spending hours and hours every day

:44:10.:44:12.

giving physiotherapy, and children are taking tens of different drugs

:44:13.:44:18.

every day to keep going. There is no break from that. It didn't seem

:44:19.:44:22.

controversial to us as a charity to be able to support term time

:44:23.:44:25.

holidays to families that wanted them. But it seems that it is, in

:44:26.:44:32.

just a few cases, an issue. Hannah? The amount of treatment you have got

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to do, for something like cystic fibrosis, before Iona died, she had

:44:38.:44:44.

that much medication, should we could not get it within a 24-hour

:44:45.:44:50.

period. You just want to get away from it all, some things where you

:44:51.:44:57.

can shut the door, possibly forget a little bit about it, and have a

:44:58.:45:01.

little bit of a break. What about the issue of damaging a

:45:02.:45:04.

child's education because the Department of Health points out

:45:05.:45:11.

there are 13 weeks of holiday across the academic year, evidence shows

:45:12.:45:15.

that every day of school mist can affect a child's chances of

:45:16.:45:19.

achieving good GCSEs and it has a lasting effect on their life

:45:20.:45:20.

choices. Can we foreso has the a future, it

:45:21.:45:30.

is very important education should be, it is everyone's parity but at

:45:31.:45:36.

the same time, the importance of family, and to be loved and to have

:45:37.:45:41.

the support off each other and to have memories with each other, sort

:45:42.:45:47.

of balance it out. Education is a priority, every parents' but the

:45:48.:45:50.

wellbeing and just the mental support that you can give to a

:45:51.:45:57.

child, that is fighting a constant battle on a daily basis where every

:45:58.:46:01.

morning, evening at night we are spending two to three hours on

:46:02.:46:08.

medication and nebulisers and physiotherapy equipment. It is very

:46:09.:46:13.

easy to sort of brush it as a stays tick and other children as a

:46:14.:46:16.

statistic with cystic fibrosis with the same brush and say, well, all

:46:17.:46:22.

children have to comply, but there is an umbrella policy and surely

:46:23.:46:27.

there should be some sort of compromise, as far as children that

:46:28.:46:32.

have these special circumstances. Lewis Wagner, when you are talking

:46:33.:46:37.

about life chances in terms of education, and you hear about the

:46:38.:46:41.

life chances of these kids, struggling with very difficult

:46:42.:46:45.

conditions, and their families endiring that with them, can you

:46:46.:46:52.

even equate those two? I think one of the things about being a teacher.

:46:53.:46:56.

We are caring, it is a caring profession and we understand the

:46:57.:46:59.

difficulties that are associated with conditions like cystic fibrosis

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and we are very aware of the lifestyle that they may have to live

:47:04.:47:07.

as a result of this, which is why as part of the regulation, one of the

:47:08.:47:12.

things that is there that head teachers can grant these term time

:47:13.:47:16.

absences, they can make sure they are authorised rather than

:47:17.:47:20.

unauthorised, in exceptional circumstances. Thank you all very

:47:21.:47:22.

Thank you all very much for coming in.

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Three million of us could stave off colds and flu each year if we took

:47:27.:47:29.

That's according to new research published

:47:30.:47:32.

It studied 11,000 people and Found that a daily dose

:47:33.:47:35.

of the sunshine vitamin can protect against acute

:47:36.:47:37.

But Public Health England said evidence on Vitamin D

:47:38.:47:40.

is inconsistent and that this study does not provide sufficient evidence

:47:41.:47:43.

"to support recommending Vitamin D for reducing the risk of respiratory

:47:44.:47:45.

Let's talk now to nutritionist Jenny Rosborough.

:47:46.:48:00.

And also to Professor who is head of nutritional services at the

:48:01.:48:07.

University of Surrey. Thank you for joining us. Tell us a bit more,

:48:08.:48:13.

first of all, Jenny, about the benefits you think there may be on

:48:14.:48:18.

vitamin D? So this particular research is looking at the benefits

:48:19.:48:26.

of a supplementation of vitamin department on respiratory tract

:48:27.:48:30.

infections like cold or flu, but we know that the proven consistent

:48:31.:48:34.

evidence of vitamin D is much more round bone and muscle health. That

:48:35.:48:38.

what our current recommendations are based on. Should everyone take it?

:48:39.:48:42.

If there is a suggestion it helps, it won't cause you any harm? On in

:48:43.:48:50.

excess it will cause harm but not in the amounts found in

:48:51.:48:53.

supplementation. The recommendation is that even should take a

:48:54.:48:57.

supplement in the winter months and in autumn, because we get a lot of

:48:58.:49:00.

vitamin D from sunshine, obviously in the UK we don't get a lot that at

:49:01.:49:06.

this time of the year, and for those population groups at risk they

:49:07.:49:09.

should take them the whole year round, so people with darker skin or

:49:10.:49:13.

who aren't exposed to sunlight as much. Susan, what do you think about

:49:14.:49:19.

this research? Very much agree with your press conference speaker, it is

:49:20.:49:23.

a very nice piece of work, that has been done by a very reputable group,

:49:24.:49:34.

in London. It is a met a analysis, it is pulling together randomised

:49:35.:49:37.

controlled trial, one of the interesting things with the study is

:49:38.:49:43.

it shows the greatest effect in those who have a vitamin D status

:49:44.:49:52.

less than 25 perlitre, that is what was... Sorry, put that in lay

:49:53.:49:58.

person's language then. That is kind of like the cut off point for very

:49:59.:50:05.

low vitamin D status, so what the study showed was the effect, it was

:50:06.:50:10.

greatest in those with this very low level of vitamin D status and was

:50:11.:50:16.

most ebeneficial in those who were taking a vitamin D supplement on a

:50:17.:50:23.

daily or weekly basis, rather than a large bolus dose, a very large

:50:24.:50:28.

amount taken at one time. OK. In terms of the best way to get vitamin

:50:29.:50:34.

D, if you want it is it's a supplement, how else can you get it?

:50:35.:50:38.

Apart from the sunlight and even that is tricky, in the summer we are

:50:39.:50:44.

covering ourself in sun tan lotion, covering up because we are worried

:50:45.:50:48.

about skin cancer risk so supplementation is what is

:50:49.:50:52.

recommended. It is one of those vitamins we can't get easily from

:50:53.:50:59.

food. It is in oily fish and egg yolks, they might be food people

:51:00.:51:05.

don't consume. If you had an oily fish once a week. The recommendation

:51:06.:51:11.

is we have fish twice a week but that is for different benefit, so

:51:12.:51:16.

for the general public, yes, everyone really should have a

:51:17.:51:23.

supplement. It is fort anied if -- fortified in sup products. Would you

:51:24.:51:28.

still need a supplement? The general recommendation is still that we

:51:29.:51:33.

should have this supplement. OK. Why is it, Susan, that vitamin D has

:51:34.:51:41.

this effect? It seems? It is a very unusual nutrient in that our main

:51:42.:51:46.

source is not diet, it is UV B ex pore sure, so the best way of

:51:47.:51:51.

telling if you are in the right sunlight your shadow has to be

:51:52.:51:55.

shorter than your height. That is a useful tip to remember for people,

:51:56.:51:59.

so between really April and September, is when you would get

:52:00.:52:03.

your vitamin D. In terms of it, so we talk about it as a vitamin, it is

:52:04.:52:11.

not a vital aiming which is what the term vitamin means, it's a pro

:52:12.:52:18.

hormone so it is made in the body. What we know about vitamin D is that

:52:19.:52:25.

it has our cells in the body need vitamin D to work, so a number of

:52:26.:52:31.

immune function cells need vitamin D to operate effectively. That is what

:52:32.:52:36.

makes it so interesting as a nutrient to focus on. Thank you both

:52:37.:52:38.

very much. Thank you.

:52:39.:52:47.

Love actually has become one of Richard Curtis's most favourite

:52:48.:52:53.

films. How did the tangled love lives of the characters play out. We

:52:54.:52:57.

are about to find out possibly because members of the cast are

:52:58.:53:03.

going to be reuniting for a short sequel ten minutes to raise money

:53:04.:53:07.

for Comic Relief. In a moment we will speak to Emma Freud but let us

:53:08.:53:11.

remind ourself of the original film. Here is is a bit of the famous scene

:53:12.:53:16.

where the late Alan Rick man's character attempts to get a

:53:17.:53:18.

Christmas present gift wrapped. Man's character attempts to get a

:53:19.:53:39.

Christmas present gift wrapped. What's that? A cinnamon stick, Sir.

:53:40.:53:44.

You won't regret it Sir. Wanna bet? We're delighted to be able

:53:45.:53:50.

to speak to Emma Freud, script editor on Love Actually

:53:51.:53:53.

and Director of Red Nose Day. Are you on the set right now? I am.

:53:54.:53:58.

I have turned the camera round you can't see where we are. Do you mind

:53:59.:54:04.

turning it back round? No. Quite busy here already. Tell us who is

:54:05.:54:12.

there with you then? OK, Liam niecen, the most after tracktive man

:54:13.:54:16.

in the world and slightly weirdly, younger looking now, than he was

:54:17.:54:21.

when we first did the film 13 years ago. He is gorgeous, and Thomas

:54:22.:54:29.

Sangster who was a 12-year-old boy who played his step-son, he is now a

:54:30.:54:35.

great big boy, he is 26. And one other person I am not going to tell

:54:36.:54:38.

you who. Our first day's filming we are going to do the whole thing in

:54:39.:54:42.

five days, I think but this is day one, and it is going OK, we have

:54:43.:54:47.

done the first take of the first scene, back to the second take, I

:54:48.:54:51.

will grab Richard in a moment so you can say hello to him, but it is all

:54:52.:54:56.

very exciting. Please do grab him any time you like. We would love to

:54:57.:55:00.

talk to Richard as well. Can you tell us. Richard! Who else is going

:55:01.:55:11.

to be in it Who have you said? I said Liam and Tom. Kiera and Andrew

:55:12.:55:19.

is in it and Colin is in it and Hugh and Lucia, a lot of people. Emma

:55:20.:55:27.

Thompson? Oddly, we are not quite sure, oddly. It is being done in a

:55:28.:55:33.

great rush, I think not, but I am now thinking again, we will wait and

:55:34.:55:42.

see. Bill is in it. Will all of our burning questions be answered? No.

:55:43.:55:48.

OK, maybe not in ten minutes maybe you need to make a full sequel,

:55:49.:55:55.

would you do that? No. Why not? The only reason this is happening is for

:55:56.:56:00.

Red Nose Day, in Britain, and also for Red Nose Day in Americaings,

:56:01.:56:03.

which is something we do now as well. So this is Red Nose Day. And

:56:04.:56:13.

action! He has got a job to do. Did anyone say no, when you approached

:56:14.:56:16.

everyone, what was their reaction, were they excited to be doing it?

:56:17.:56:24.

Alan Rickman went very quiet. Other than that, no, nobody amazingly,

:56:25.:56:29.

nobody said no. Liam flew over yesterday, from America, and is

:56:30.:56:33.

going back tomorrow, so that is quite dedicated. No, it surprised

:56:34.:56:38.

us, there is a lot of affection for the film. I know some people think

:56:39.:56:43.

it's the worst thing put on celluloid but I think there is a

:56:44.:56:47.

very warm feeling and it and the cast have enjoyed that over the

:56:48.:56:51.

years I imagine, because they all said yes, which was great. Was it

:56:52.:56:58.

easy to write? No, it wasn't, I think I have never opinion more

:56:59.:57:03.

useful, the first draft he did was so bad, that I told him we

:57:04.:57:07.

absolutely shouldn't do it and to abort the plan and he rewrote it, so

:57:08.:57:13.

it has gone through a lot of pass, it is quite good now but very much

:57:14.:57:17.

in Red Nose Day, the only point of it existing is in order to try and

:57:18.:57:22.

draw attention to Red Nose Day and make money for our projects. That is

:57:23.:57:26.

the only push in life. We have tried to hook it into that, that felt like

:57:27.:57:31.

a crowbar at the beginning but it is sitting nicely now. That is good.

:57:32.:57:36.

Can you give us some examples of what he put in the first draft that

:57:37.:57:41.

was were so shocking? The same jokes again. He said they will be funny

:57:42.:57:46.

because they are older, and no, that isn't good enough, he did the jokes

:57:47.:57:51.

the first time, 30 years ago and they were find, you can't do it so,

:57:52.:57:55.

we had to move on, I had to develop it a bit. There has to be progress

:57:56.:58:00.

rather than revisiting the old gag, that wasn't going to work. Thank you

:58:01.:58:06.

so much. March 24th: Red Nose Day. Enjoy the filming. Thank you.

:58:07.:58:11.

I will see you same time tomorrow, have a lovely afternoon. Bye.

:58:12.:58:31.

Donald Trump's first 100 days in the White House

:58:32.:58:34.

are defining how he'll deal with the rest of the world.

:58:35.:58:38.

Joanna Gosling sits in for Victoria Derbyshire and talks about the pros and cons of HRT with women who have been through the menopause.

She also hears from a woman who says winning the lottery at the age of 17 ruined her life.

Plus, Emma Freud and Richard Curtis spill the details on Comic Relief's Love Actually sequel.