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It's Monday, it's nine o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire. | :00:00. | :00:09. | |
Amy's Place - the recovery house changing lives | :00:10. | :00:14. | |
Sitting where I am today, I am not that long sober but I have made it | :00:15. | :00:28. | |
so far, that you forget my life was sitting in a homeless hostel | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
planning how to kill myself. I was very, bitterly, bitterly | :00:35. | :00:38. | |
suicidal, depressed. My world basically collapsed. | :00:39. | :00:40. | |
The drugs take over. We've had exclusive access | :00:41. | :00:42. | |
to the rehab centre for women Also on the programme - | :00:43. | :00:44. | |
people convicted of animal cruelty and killing animals face a maximum | :00:45. | :00:51. | |
prison sentence in England This morning, there are calls | :00:52. | :00:54. | |
for that sentence to be I do get a lot of abuse. | :00:55. | :01:14. | |
What do you normally do when you hang out together? | :01:15. | :01:14. | |
This. We sit around, he abuses me. David Baddiel will tell us | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
about life with his father whose rare form of dementia makes him | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
prone to extreme outbursts of swearing | :01:22. | :01:22. | |
and sexual-inappropriateness. Really keen to hear your | :01:23. | :01:24. | |
experiences of caring Do get in touch on all the stories | :01:25. | :01:26. | |
we're talking about this morning. And if you text, you will be charged | :01:27. | :01:44. | |
at the standard network rate. Council tax rises | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
are planned by nearly all of England's local authorities | :01:49. | :01:50. | |
in the coming year, but the organisation that represents | :01:51. | :01:53. | |
them is warning that deep cuts The Local Government Association | :01:54. | :01:56. | |
says social care services for the elderly and disabled | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
are at breaking point and will Here's our social affairs | :02:00. | :02:01. | |
correspondent Alison Holt. After several falls, | :02:02. | :02:09. | |
Maureen Edwards is getting support to regain some independence | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
and rebuild her confidence. I'm grateful for all that | :02:15. | :02:19. | |
they've done for me, Without them, I don't know | :02:20. | :02:26. | |
what I would have done. Councils fund most social care | :02:27. | :02:29. | |
and today's surveys shows the majority of them struggling | :02:30. | :02:44. | |
to meet growing costs. There are 151 local authorities | :02:45. | :02:47. | |
in England, 147 plan to raise council tax specifically to help | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
pay for social care. But councils warn that won't plug | :02:51. | :02:57. | |
the funding gap and that could mean There has been a united voice | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
of local government to say that they need to have more funding | :03:02. | :03:10. | |
into social care and that the crisis The funding for local government | :03:11. | :03:14. | |
needs to be resolved immediately. The Government says extra money | :03:15. | :03:20. | |
is being put into social care and authorities will soon be able | :03:21. | :03:23. | |
to keep all the money they raise Our correspondent Angus Crawford | :03:24. | :03:26. | |
is here with me now. What are the key findings | :03:27. | :03:35. | |
of this Local Government This is a 118, the council taxpayers | :03:36. | :03:46. | |
not only are you likely to find your council tax goes up but the services | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
you take for granted, filling potholes, libraries, bin | :03:52. | :03:54. | |
collections, children's services will face further cuts. Of the 151 | :03:55. | :04:01. | |
local authorities in England, 147 say they will put up council tax all | :04:02. | :04:05. | |
because of the crisis in social care. | :04:06. | :04:08. | |
How much? That is the big question. They can | :04:09. | :04:16. | |
put up council tax by 1.99% without a referendum, and an extra 3% if | :04:17. | :04:26. | |
they will pay the social care using that money. | :04:27. | :04:28. | |
Arguably some people may find next year a 5% rise in their council tax. | :04:29. | :04:32. | |
How have we got to this point? Essentially, funding from local | :04:33. | :04:36. | |
Government, for local Government, from central Government, went down a | :04:37. | :04:39. | |
third in the last parliament. The cost of the national living wage | :04:40. | :04:44. | |
is coming in for local authority employees, and an ageing population. | :04:45. | :04:50. | |
A series situation where the Local Government Association says there | :04:51. | :04:54. | |
will be a shortfall of ?5.8 billion by 2020. You heard they are putting | :04:55. | :05:02. | |
in new funding streams, ?200 billion available to spend by 2020, and | :05:03. | :05:07. | |
local authorities will be able to keep 100% of local taxation. | :05:08. | :05:09. | |
Thank you. Let's go to the BBC | :05:10. | :05:10. | |
Newsroom for a summary Iraqi government forces have | :05:11. | :05:12. | |
resumed their offensive to try to win control of western | :05:13. | :05:17. | |
Mosul, the last major stronghold Thousands of troops | :05:18. | :05:20. | |
are involved in the assault on the western half of the city | :05:21. | :05:24. | |
which is now in its second day. Last month, Iraqi government forces | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
secured the eastern part of Mosul In record time, the Iraqi Federal | :05:29. | :05:43. | |
police have made it in time inside of mental city. And the River Tigris | :05:44. | :05:50. | |
is in the foreground. It really was a very fast assault to get here. | :05:51. | :05:58. | |
Now, behind me, perhaps if we move the camera over there, you might | :05:59. | :06:04. | |
pick out the helicopter, the gun ship which is launching an attack | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
against the town of Abu safe, and important town, all that lies | :06:10. | :06:13. | |
between the federal police and Mosul is that town, a Daesh stronghold. | :06:14. | :06:20. | |
All morning we have watched these helicopters attacking the town and | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
the Iraqi police have fired their own home-made rockets deep inside | :06:26. | :06:29. | |
that town. It is very important for them. Just two miles, you can hear | :06:30. | :06:35. | |
the helicopters firing again, you can't quite see it. We can hear it. | :06:36. | :06:45. | |
Just beyond that town, two miles, is Mosul's airport. That airport is | :06:46. | :06:51. | |
mostly symbolic value because the Islamic State long ago destroyed the | :06:52. | :06:54. | |
runways and terminal buildings. Taking that would be very important | :06:55. | :06:59. | |
because it would be a small victory. After that, they would be in Mosul. | :07:00. | :07:04. | |
The US President Donald Trump has attempted to explain on Twitter why | :07:05. | :07:07. | |
he made comments about a nonexistent security incident | :07:08. | :07:09. | |
At a rally on Saturday in Florida, President Trump justified his moves | :07:10. | :07:13. | |
to restrict immigration from several majority-Muslim countries | :07:14. | :07:16. | |
by referring to the imaginary Swedish incident along with other | :07:17. | :07:19. | |
You look at what's happening last night in Sweden - Sweden! | :07:20. | :07:27. | |
They took in large numbers and they are having problems | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
Yesterday evening, he tweeted that he had got the information | :07:33. | :07:44. | |
from a Fox News documentary about immigration in Sweden, | :07:45. | :07:46. | |
and the White House later clarified he'd been talking about rising crime | :07:47. | :07:49. | |
The Swedish Embassy has responded by tweeting that they looked forward | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
to advising President Trump's administration about | :07:54. | :07:55. | |
Swedish immigration and integration policies. | :07:56. | :08:04. | |
Meanwhile, Donald Trump's Vice-President Mike Pence | :08:05. | :08:05. | |
is in Brussels to meet EU and Nato leaders. | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
He's expected to address concerns about the American President's | :08:10. | :08:11. | |
He will be giving a news conference at ten o'clock. | :08:12. | :08:23. | |
Two senior Ukip officials in Merseyside have resigned | :08:24. | :08:25. | |
in protest at their leader Paul Nuttall's handling | :08:26. | :08:27. | |
The chairmen of the Merseyside branch and the Liverpool branch | :08:28. | :08:30. | |
cited Mr Nuttall's "unprofessional approach and crass insensitivity", | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
saying Mr Nuttall's comments had provoked "a strong reaction" | :08:36. | :08:37. | |
Last week, the Ukip leader admitted that a claim on his website | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
that he had lost a close friend in the Hillsborough | :08:42. | :08:44. | |
The House Of Lords will get its first chance to debate | :08:45. | :08:51. | |
the so-called Brexit Bill later, the legislation which kicks | :08:52. | :08:53. | |
off the formal process for Britain leaving the EU. | :08:54. | :08:55. | |
The bill passed through the Commons unamended, but it's thought | :08:56. | :08:57. | |
opposition peers will seek guarantees about the rights of EU | :08:58. | :09:00. | |
citizens in Britain - and the role of Parliament | :09:01. | :09:02. | |
Campaigners have called the current maximum jail term for animal cruelty | :09:03. | :09:10. | |
Battersea Dogs And Cats Home is calling for prison sentences | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
to be increased from six months to five years to bring | :09:15. | :09:16. | |
the punishment in line with crimes such as fly-tipping. | :09:17. | :09:18. | |
England and Wales currently have the lowest maximum | :09:19. | :09:20. | |
And Victoria will be discussing this issue | :09:21. | :09:28. | |
Two of the world's biggest search engines, Google and Bing, | :09:29. | :09:36. | |
have pledged to make it harder for internet users in Britain | :09:37. | :09:39. | |
to find pirated material such as music and films. | :09:40. | :09:41. | |
They've signed up to a voluntary code of practice which involves | :09:42. | :09:44. | |
demoting offending websites in their search results. | :09:45. | :09:46. | |
The entertainment industry reached the agreement with the tech giants | :09:47. | :09:48. | |
after talks brokered by the Government. | :09:49. | :09:49. | |
The initiative will run in parallel with existing anti-piracy measures. | :09:50. | :09:56. | |
Ride-sharing company Uber has said it will conduct an "urgent | :09:57. | :09:58. | |
investigation" into claims of sexual harassment at the company. | :09:59. | :10:00. | |
A blog post written by a former employee detailed a string | :10:01. | :10:03. | |
of instances during her time working for Uber as an engineer. | :10:04. | :10:05. | |
The company's chief executive, Travis Kalanick responded | :10:06. | :10:07. | |
saying he had not heard these allegations before, and that anyone | :10:08. | :10:10. | |
who thought such behaviour was ok would be fired. | :10:11. | :10:19. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :10:20. | :10:21. | |
A couple of messages from you on the Amy Winehouse recovery house. That | :10:22. | :10:36. | |
is for women under the age of 30. One viewer says, this is so | :10:37. | :10:40. | |
inspiring, she introduced herself into my life when I hit rock bottom | :10:41. | :10:45. | |
with addiction. This is a foundation everyone needs to support. | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
Do get in touch with us throughout the morning. | :10:49. | :10:50. | |
If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
Olly Foster is at the BBC Sport Centre. | :10:55. | :10:57. | |
A big day for seven sports with their futures in the balance. | :10:58. | :10:59. | |
A couple of months ago, five sports were stripped of their funding for | :11:00. | :11:05. | |
the next Olympics and Paralympics cycle through to Tokyo and the 2020 | :11:06. | :11:12. | |
games. Badminton, archery, fencing, wheelchair rugby amongst those. | :11:13. | :11:17. | |
Table tennis and others were told they would continue not to be funded | :11:18. | :11:21. | |
and they were unhappy. Badminton, they had a strong | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
argument for more funding because they met their target in Rio, they | :11:27. | :11:31. | |
got a medal in the men's doubles. They said if they lost all their | :11:32. | :11:34. | |
funding it would be catastrophic and they would become nothing more than | :11:35. | :11:39. | |
a hobby sport. Sentiments all those exports have shared. | :11:40. | :11:43. | |
We will find out later this morning from UK sport exactly how all those | :11:44. | :11:47. | |
appeals have been heard and whether they have been successful. Unlike | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
the UK sport with ?350 million to spread across all those sports will | :11:53. | :11:58. | |
reverse those decisions, they say they have to prioritise where they | :11:59. | :11:59. | |
think those medals will be one. It has been a great weekend | :12:00. | :12:05. | |
in the FA Cup and another Can we see another upset, Sutton | :12:06. | :12:17. | |
against Arsenal, at an old school stadium. I have seen the away | :12:18. | :12:26. | |
dressing rooms, Arsenal would fancy that one little bit. | :12:27. | :12:28. | |
The quarterfinal draw was made yesterday. Tonight's winner will | :12:29. | :12:31. | |
face non-league Lincoln at home. They made the headlines this weekend | :12:32. | :12:36. | |
beating Burnley 81 places above them. That is what it meant to them | :12:37. | :12:41. | |
at Turf Moor. 1-0. The first non-league side in a century to | :12:42. | :12:46. | |
reach the quarters. Chelsea face Manchester United, they | :12:47. | :12:53. | |
had a tricky tie at black burn, the winner scored from their sub, 2-1. | :12:54. | :13:09. | |
That is another juicy tied to look forward to. | :13:10. | :13:10. | |
Cricketer Ben Stokes has become a lot richer | :13:11. | :13:12. | |
You wouldn't have thought England's stop is very high in India, they | :13:13. | :13:22. | |
just had that tour whitewash in all forms of the game. We had the | :13:23. | :13:28. | |
frenzied auction we have every year for the IPL. Ben Stokes has become | :13:29. | :13:34. | |
the most expensive foreign player in the ten years of the tournament, | :13:35. | :13:43. | |
?1.7 million paid for him. Kevin Pietersen, he loves himself a little | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
bit, he properly won't be that happy, he was previously the most | :13:48. | :13:51. | |
expensive player at ?1 million. But Ben Stokes has a lot to live up to | :13:52. | :13:55. | |
in that tournament when it starts in April. | :13:56. | :13:56. | |
There was an awkward moment in Austria at | :13:57. | :13:58. | |
Yes, they ski and shoot, then ski a bit more. | :13:59. | :14:08. | |
An awkward moment with the at them, not as awkward as when the old | :14:09. | :14:12. | |
German anthem was played for the German women at the Fed Cup. | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
This was pretty embarrassing nonetheless. | :14:17. | :14:20. | |
The Russian men one goals, here they are on the podium. They played an | :14:21. | :14:24. | |
old version of the Russian anthem, not the done thing. | :14:25. | :14:28. | |
This is one of their coaches, do it yourself, take it away! | :14:29. | :14:41. | |
No gold medal the singing. The Russian athletes haven't done much | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
to ingratiate themselves of late. But they loved it there in the | :14:47. | :14:50. | |
crowd. They did well. Thank you. | :14:51. | :14:53. | |
This morning, exclusive access inside Amy's Place, | :14:54. | :14:55. | |
the UK's only recovery house dedicated to helping young women | :14:56. | :14:57. | |
It was set up in memory of Amy Winehouse who died of alcohol | :14:58. | :15:01. | |
It only accepts women under the age of 30 who have been clean | :15:02. | :15:05. | |
or dry for three months, but aren't ready | :15:06. | :15:07. | |
Each of the 16 occupants gets their own flat which they pay | :15:08. | :15:11. | |
The Amy Winehouse Foundation says there is a desperate need for more | :15:12. | :15:17. | |
such recovery houses, and wants other housing | :15:18. | :15:19. | |
Six months since it opened, our reporter Jean MacKenzie | :15:20. | :15:22. | |
was given exclusive access to the house, and spent time | :15:23. | :15:25. | |
You may find some of the details you hear in this report upsetting. | :15:26. | :15:43. | |
Hello, I'm Grace and I'm an alcoholic. | :15:44. | :15:45. | |
I kind of just want to go out and walk for the day. | :15:46. | :15:53. | |
Do you know when you just want to wander, | :15:54. | :15:54. | |
My head can just talk to me all the time. | :15:55. | :15:58. | |
People with addictions, they can't do it on | :15:59. | :16:07. | |
To be able to change the lives of the young women who come | :16:08. | :16:14. | |
through these doors and make that difference is just the most | :16:15. | :16:16. | |
wonderful thing, really in Amy's memory. | :16:17. | :16:21. | |
After a high-profile addiction to drugs and alcohol, Amy | :16:22. | :16:24. | |
Last year, her family set up a home for young women fighting addiction. | :16:25. | :16:30. | |
We've been given exclusive access and | :16:31. | :16:36. | |
spent time with the first women to live there. | :16:37. | :16:44. | |
Every Monday, the women eat breakfast together. | :16:45. | :16:48. | |
Some of the issues the girls have is like eating | :16:49. | :16:51. | |
disorders and the fact that we are so busy, | :16:52. | :16:55. | |
we tend to not get a lot of time to spend with each other. | :16:56. | :16:59. | |
So I suggested it and then all the other | :17:00. | :17:01. | |
I think it makes everyone less angry. | :17:02. | :17:05. | |
I feel like one of them ladies who has to curtsy. | :17:06. | :17:07. | |
The house takes in young women for up to two years after | :17:08. | :17:10. | |
It helps them stay clean while they take | :17:11. | :17:13. | |
their first steps without drugs and alcohol. | :17:14. | :17:18. | |
Yeah, I feel a bit like not really here or there today. | :17:19. | :17:22. | |
I just feel a bit floaty, which is all right. | :17:23. | :17:25. | |
My head can just talk to me all the time. | :17:26. | :17:31. | |
You don't want to be an addict, you're not an addict. | :17:32. | :17:33. | |
Hello, my name is Grace, I'm 19, I'm a recovering alcoholic and | :17:34. | :17:42. | |
The youngest member of the house, Grace, | :17:43. | :17:46. | |
So I'm going to have duck egg in the front | :17:47. | :17:58. | |
room and then a wall of glitter. | :17:59. | :17:59. | |
She went into care when she was 13 and then moved around | :18:00. | :18:02. | |
I've never decorated a house. So this is a first. | :18:03. | :18:05. | |
It started out, I know that I had my first drink at eight. | :18:06. | :18:09. | |
And by kind of like 12 I was sneaking | :18:10. | :18:11. | |
around and doing things that I shouldn't have been doing. | :18:12. | :18:13. | |
Between 13 and 14 I went into care and that is kind of | :18:14. | :18:16. | |
And I could be more sneaky about it, because I | :18:17. | :18:20. | |
Obviously, I went into my youth hostels and that is where | :18:21. | :18:26. | |
I didn't have anyone to say you shouldn't be doing | :18:27. | :18:30. | |
And so what point did you think, I'm an alcoholic? | :18:31. | :18:38. | |
It was only in November 2015 where I nearly died. | :18:39. | :18:41. | |
I woke up frothing at the mouth and I was terrified. | :18:42. | :18:43. | |
They were detoxing me in resus in hospital. | :18:44. | :18:50. | |
They told me it's a waiting game now, whether we see that your organs | :18:51. | :18:54. | |
So it was four days of me sitting in resus, hoping | :18:55. | :18:57. | |
So since you made that decision, how has it been? | :18:58. | :19:09. | |
I think you forget how real it feels. | :19:10. | :19:22. | |
And so when you talk about it again, it's like, that was | :19:23. | :19:25. | |
I think I said my story so much it doesn't | :19:26. | :19:31. | |
feel real, and when you tell it again, it's like, that's how I was | :19:32. | :19:35. | |
I've kind of just accepted that is how I was living. | :19:36. | :19:38. | |
Does it shock you to remember that was your life? | :19:39. | :19:41. | |
I think I was stuck in it for so long that I didn't | :19:42. | :19:47. | |
Then you forget, when you are sitting where I am | :19:48. | :19:56. | |
today and I'm not that long sober, but I've made it so far, | :19:57. | :19:59. | |
that you forget that my life was sitting in a | :20:00. | :20:01. | |
homeless hostel planning how to kill myself. | :20:02. | :20:06. | |
Each morning, the women must go to one of these check-ins. | :20:07. | :20:14. | |
So the house knows they're safe and well. | :20:15. | :20:15. | |
I just feel like I didn't get enough sleep and | :20:16. | :20:26. | |
I kind of just want to go out and jsut walk for the day. | :20:27. | :20:34. | |
You know when you just want to wander, just | :20:35. | :20:36. | |
Just for today I will strive to forgive rather than | :20:37. | :20:40. | |
I will try to act in such a way that I feel worthy of | :20:41. | :20:45. | |
That kind of stuff is a way of showing yourself that you are | :20:46. | :20:49. | |
Well, that's the major point, isn't it? | :20:50. | :20:52. | |
It's about forgiving yourself and that's very hard. | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
It is, but the whole cycle of guilt, shame, you, guilt, shame, you. | :20:58. | :21:05. | |
Hi, I'm Judith, I'm 26, I'm a recovering addict | :21:06. | :21:07. | |
My son is seven and my daughter is five and she's going to | :21:08. | :21:19. | |
They are a massive motivator, massive. | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
Also quite fearful around being a mother, | :21:24. | :21:31. | |
because, looking back, I've never really done it properly. | :21:32. | :21:33. | |
I find it hard to believe still that I have | :21:34. | :21:35. | |
Judith started using drugs as a teenager and tells me she | :21:36. | :21:39. | |
Most of the time I didn't even ask what it was. | :21:40. | :21:43. | |
This then escalated a few years later. | :21:44. | :21:49. | |
One thing I always wanted was never to get married and | :21:50. | :21:51. | |
I was very bitterly, bitterly, bitterly, like suicidal depressed. | :21:52. | :22:05. | |
Eventually I started smoking it, but... | :22:06. | :22:17. | |
In September, October 2014, was the last time | :22:18. | :22:23. | |
And the thing that made me cry out for help was a phone call | :22:24. | :22:44. | |
All I can remember was my solicitors saying that they are going to start | :22:45. | :22:52. | |
From that day, from when that happened, that was it, I kind of | :22:53. | :22:57. | |
Literally I think they are what kept me alive. | :22:58. | :23:00. | |
Alice is recovering from a ketamine addiction. | :23:01. | :23:10. | |
This is my favourite room. This is my living room. | :23:11. | :23:13. | |
Each woman gets their own flat within | :23:14. | :23:14. | |
the house, which they pay for using their housing benefit. | :23:15. | :23:17. | |
No drugs and alcohol, no overnight guests, and | :23:18. | :23:20. | |
they must agree to random drug tests. | :23:21. | :23:24. | |
We do six of them a month, just randomly. | :23:25. | :23:30. | |
If we suspect there's something going on, we might do a | :23:31. | :23:33. | |
So I'm going to give Grace a call and ask her to come down. | :23:34. | :23:38. | |
Wow, look at that, zero. Check you out. | :23:39. | :23:54. | |
OK, so I'm peeling off the label and it's all coming up negative. | :23:55. | :24:00. | |
Yeah, I mean it didn't come up any levels that were... | :24:01. | :24:09. | |
I mean, I know I haven't taken any drugs, but I | :24:10. | :24:13. | |
thought that my medication might come up. | :24:14. | :24:22. | |
What is striking when you're here is how difficult it is | :24:23. | :24:24. | |
Some of the girls here have been through rehab before, | :24:25. | :24:28. | |
but without the skills and environment to start a different | :24:29. | :24:30. | |
That's what motivated Amy's stepmother Jane | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
We met people in treatment who were scared to death | :24:36. | :24:43. | |
of what was going to happen when they finished their treatment. | :24:44. | :24:46. | |
For a lot of them, all they could think about was, if I have to go | :24:47. | :24:50. | |
back to where I was before, you know, I'm | :24:51. | :24:52. | |
And, in fact, a lot of the women that weren't completing their | :24:53. | :24:56. | |
treatment, it was for that reason, because they could not see how they | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
were going to manage a life out of it. | :25:01. | :25:10. | |
To have your own property, where nobody is | :25:11. | :25:20. | |
Plus I've got all the girls, they are all amazing. | :25:21. | :25:25. | |
We all want to be part of society and contribute | :25:26. | :25:27. | |
Did you feel that wasn't possible in the | :25:28. | :25:30. | |
I felt like, to live in a hostel where | :25:31. | :25:37. | |
you're paying nearly ?400 a week rent, I think... | :25:38. | :25:40. | |
And the worst thing was it was one room. | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
And the support that was meant to be offered wasn't there. | :25:45. | :25:47. | |
When your room is next door to somebody that is | :25:48. | :25:50. | |
selling drugs, you can never get well, in a sense. | :25:51. | :25:54. | |
You are always stuck in the conundrum of, do I go | :25:55. | :25:56. | |
next door and go back to my old habits, or do I go to a meeting? | :25:57. | :26:02. | |
I was living a life of recovery in a using and drinking world. | :26:03. | :26:10. | |
It's not good enough to be plonked in a dry | :26:11. | :26:13. | |
house and expect us to deal with all this stuff, in my opinion. | :26:14. | :26:16. | |
You need a lot more, a lot more support. | :26:17. | :26:19. | |
A lot more love and care and you need that time to heal. | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
Do you think this place is keeping you clean? | :26:23. | :26:24. | |
For me, one of the things I've always lacked in my life | :26:25. | :26:32. | |
As part of the programme, the women must take part | :26:33. | :26:47. | |
in activities outside the house that will help them stay | :26:48. | :26:49. | |
clean and prepare them for living by themselves. | :26:50. | :26:54. | |
It can be going back to school, or starting volunteer work, | :26:55. | :26:57. | |
or, in Judith's case, finding a passion. | :26:58. | :27:05. | |
I can really zone out and just do something that I absolutely love. | :27:06. | :27:22. | |
"Judith, you've got to find something that | :27:23. | :27:25. | |
gives you an adrenaline buzz. | :27:26. | :27:27. | |
Something that gets you excited but does not involve | :27:28. | :27:29. | |
And he was like, I am looking forward to | :27:30. | :27:35. | |
I found exactly the thing I need to keep me grounded. | :27:36. | :27:40. | |
These are the sorts of skills that are | :27:41. | :27:42. | |
A lot of work is put into preparing the women for a life after | :27:43. | :27:48. | |
Where do I want to be, what kind of job do I want to have? | :27:49. | :27:52. | |
What do I want to be making money from? | :27:53. | :27:55. | |
Do I want to use my own experience to help others, maybe? | :27:56. | :27:57. | |
I want to be a forensic psychologist. | :27:58. | :27:59. | |
For me, this is really important, because if I | :28:00. | :28:04. | |
didn't have this kind of setting, or didn't have the direction | :28:05. | :28:10. | |
in my own head, I don't think I could last this. | :28:11. | :28:13. | |
It takes a lot of effort to be in recovery. | :28:14. | :28:18. | |
I don't know if you will agree, but it takes a lot more | :28:19. | :28:22. | |
I would, yeah. It's exhausting and it's relentless. | :28:23. | :28:27. | |
I'd much rather do this. It's much easier. | :28:28. | :28:35. | |
You can tell it is just one square and the tin is gone. | :28:36. | :28:38. | |
There are very few recovery houses that | :28:39. | :28:42. | |
offer this level of support and this is the only one dedicated to helping | :28:43. | :28:45. | |
The Amy Winehouse Foundation wants others to realise | :28:46. | :28:48. | |
that this type of service can save lives. | :28:49. | :28:53. | |
Does it make a difference to you that this is Amy's Place? | :28:54. | :28:59. | |
I think it's quite sad that you have to lose somebody in order | :29:00. | :29:02. | |
for them to realise that we need this kind | :29:03. | :29:04. | |
We're not the only ones in addiction that young. | :29:05. | :29:08. | |
There are 16 beds here and I know so many people | :29:09. | :29:11. | |
who are in addiction and can't get help. | :29:12. | :29:16. | |
It has been a really busy week and I am exhausted. | :29:17. | :29:24. | |
To the point I've just forgotten who's coffee is which! | :29:25. | :29:26. | |
Yeah, I had one, I was on the way to a | :29:27. | :29:35. | |
meeting and I decided that I was going to go and drink. | :29:36. | :29:39. | |
So I just stood outside a pub and then bumped into one of the | :29:40. | :29:42. | |
It was like, oh, God, I actually have to come to | :29:43. | :29:46. | |
Since moving into the house, Grace has | :29:47. | :29:53. | |
found an unexpected hobby in woodwork. | :29:54. | :29:57. | |
She comes here every week and today she is finishing restoring | :29:58. | :30:00. | |
I feel like now I can kind of do anything, really. | :30:01. | :30:08. | |
I still get frightened about doing stuff, but now I feel like I | :30:09. | :30:11. | |
am more determined to do things, now I know what it feels like to | :30:12. | :30:15. | |
Now I want to go ahead and do lots of things. | :30:16. | :30:21. | |
Positive. Really positive. | :30:22. | :30:28. | |
As long as I don't go back to that lie. | :30:29. | :30:30. | |
As long as I keep moving on from the other. | :30:31. | :30:33. | |
I'd like to think I have that, I can get that future, that | :30:34. | :30:39. | |
Yeah, life will come up, but I will be able to deal with it. | :30:40. | :30:49. | |
I'm not going to go back to the bottle and go back to using. | :30:50. | :30:52. | |
I think the girls here, they are going to | :30:53. | :30:55. | |
get to a point where they are ready to move on and I am really excited | :30:56. | :30:58. | |
To see that point where they go, do you know what, I don't | :30:59. | :31:03. | |
need to live here any more, I don't need the support. | :31:04. | :31:05. | |
And we will have new arrivals and I think they will | :31:06. | :31:08. | |
keep growing from strength to strength. | :31:09. | :31:09. | |
To be able to change the lives of the young women that come | :31:10. | :31:12. | |
through these doors and make that difference and give them the tools | :31:13. | :31:15. | |
to be able to maintain that, hopefully for the rest of their | :31:16. | :31:18. | |
lives, is just the most wonderful thing, really, in Amy's memory. | :31:19. | :31:20. | |
Since you have been here last week, I have finally finished off my | :31:21. | :31:23. | |
decorating and I think it's been a lot more | :31:24. | :31:27. | |
hard work than I thought it would be. | :31:28. | :31:31. | |
I think I am kind of nervous, but also really excited for | :31:32. | :31:34. | |
Before it was black and there wasn't anything | :31:35. | :31:38. | |
I was looking forward to and now I realise I have | :31:39. | :31:40. | |
Elizabeth has e-mailed, and Holly now, what an inspiration these young | :31:41. | :32:04. | |
women are. Grace is beautiful inside and on the outside. | :32:05. | :32:06. | |
David says, there should be more places like this recovery house, | :32:07. | :32:11. | |
there is so much focus on getting of substance abuse but most dangerous | :32:12. | :32:15. | |
time is after becoming abstinent. I have been clean for nearly two years | :32:16. | :32:19. | |
and success is due to good after-care and support. | :32:20. | :32:22. | |
After 10am, we'll be speaking to one resident of Amy's Place | :32:23. | :32:25. | |
who you saw in that film as well as the director | :32:26. | :32:28. | |
If you've been affected by the issues raised, | :32:29. | :32:30. | |
you can find details of organisations offering | :32:31. | :32:32. | |
information and support with addiction at bbc.co.uk/actionline. | :32:33. | :32:34. | |
Or you can call for free, at any time to hear recorded | :32:35. | :32:37. | |
And your own personal experience of being addicted and how you recover, | :32:38. | :32:55. | |
please do let me know, we will feed back into the conversation. | :32:56. | :32:56. | |
He has allowed cameras in to film his father who has a rare | :32:57. | :33:02. | |
And calls for people convicted of animal cruelty to face much | :33:03. | :33:05. | |
Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news. | :33:06. | :33:23. | |
Council tax rises are planned by most local authorities in England | :33:24. | :33:26. | |
in the coming year to help meet the increasing cost of social care. | :33:27. | :33:29. | |
The Government says extra money is being put into social care | :33:30. | :33:32. | |
and councils will soon be able to keep all the money they raise | :33:33. | :33:35. | |
But the Local Government Association who represent councils say deep cuts | :33:36. | :33:39. | |
will still have to be made to other services as the cost | :33:40. | :33:42. | |
of care for the elderly and disabled will account | :33:43. | :33:44. | |
Iraqi government forces have resumed their offensive | :33:45. | :33:47. | |
to try to win control of western Mosul - the last major stronghold | :33:48. | :33:50. | |
Thousands of troops are involved in the assault | :33:51. | :33:54. | |
on the western half of the city, which is now in its second day. | :33:55. | :33:57. | |
Last month, Iraqi government forces secured the eastern part of Mosul | :33:58. | :34:00. | |
Two senior Ukip officials in Merseyside have resigned | :34:01. | :34:03. | |
in protest at their leader Paul Nuttall's false claim - | :34:04. | :34:05. | |
since retracted - that he lost close friends | :34:06. | :34:07. | |
The chairmen of the Merseyside branch | :34:08. | :34:11. | |
and the Liverpool branch cited Mr Nuttall's "unprofessional | :34:12. | :34:13. | |
- saying Mr Nuttall's comments had provoked "a strong reaction" | :34:14. | :34:17. | |
Last week, the Ukip leader apologised after admitting that | :34:18. | :34:20. | |
a claim on his website that he had lost close friends at | :34:21. | :34:23. | |
The US President Donald Trump has attempted to explain on Twitter | :34:24. | :34:33. | |
why he made comments about a non-existent security | :34:34. | :34:35. | |
At a rally on Saturday in Florida, President Trump | :34:36. | :34:38. | |
justified his moves to restrict immigration from several | :34:39. | :34:40. | |
majority-Muslim countries by referring to the imaginary | :34:41. | :34:42. | |
Swedish incident along with other recent terror attacks. | :34:43. | :34:52. | |
Yesterday evening, Donald Trump tweeted that he had got | :34:53. | :34:54. | |
the information from a Fox News documentary about immigration | :34:55. | :34:57. | |
in Sweden, and the White House later clarified he'd been talking | :34:58. | :34:59. | |
about rising crime rather than any specific incident. | :35:00. | :35:01. | |
The Swedish Embassy has responded by tweeting that they looked forward | :35:02. | :35:04. | |
to advising President Trump's administration about | :35:05. | :35:05. | |
Swedish immigration and integration policies. | :35:06. | :35:12. | |
Members of the House Of Lords are to begin debating | :35:13. | :35:14. | |
the legislation that will allow the government to start | :35:15. | :35:17. | |
The bill passed through the Commons unamended, | :35:18. | :35:19. | |
but it's thought opposition and cross-bench peers are seeking | :35:20. | :35:22. | |
guarantees about the rights of EU citizens living in Britain - | :35:23. | :35:24. | |
and about the role of Parliament in scrutinising the process | :35:25. | :35:27. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :35:28. | :35:37. | |
David Baddiel will be talking about his father's form of dementia, | :35:38. | :35:54. | |
Pick's Disease. One symptom is his dad swears a lot which can be | :35:55. | :35:58. | |
amusing but wearing for the kids involved like David and his brother. | :35:59. | :36:01. | |
We will talk about it in a minute. These are our headlines | :36:02. | :36:03. | |
this morning. Seven sports will find out today | :36:04. | :36:07. | |
whether or not they will get any money for the next Olympic | :36:08. | :36:10. | |
and Paralympic Games in 2020. UK Sport has been consdiering | :36:11. | :36:12. | |
their appeals against the cuts that Badminton say the effects | :36:13. | :36:15. | |
on the sport will be catastrophic Manchester United will travel | :36:16. | :36:18. | |
to Chelsea in the FA Lincoln will face either | :36:19. | :36:29. | |
fellow non-League side Sutton United or Arsenal who play | :36:30. | :36:39. | |
in the fifth round tonight. And Ben Stokes has become the most | :36:40. | :36:42. | |
expensive foreign player Pune Rising Giants paid | :36:43. | :36:44. | |
?1.7 million for him in Stokes surpasses the $1 | :36:45. | :36:49. | |
million that was paid Thousands of families live | :36:50. | :36:52. | |
with or look after mums and dads or grandparents who have dementia - | :36:53. | :37:03. | |
including David Baddiel. His 82-year-old father has a type | :37:04. | :37:11. | |
of dementia called Pick's Disease - named after Professor Arnold Pick | :37:12. | :37:14. | |
who first discovered it in 1892. Its symptoms mean David Baddiel's | :37:15. | :37:18. | |
dad Colin has no inhibitions - he swears a lot, he says sexually | :37:19. | :37:21. | |
inappropriate things, For the last 12 months, | :37:22. | :37:23. | |
David has been making a documentary about his dad, | :37:24. | :37:30. | |
and his and his brothers' Like a million other people | :37:31. | :37:32. | |
in Britain, I have a relative And, like many of them, | :37:33. | :37:44. | |
I'm trying to hold onto what still remains of my | :37:45. | :37:48. | |
relationship with my father. This is my friend Charlie, | :37:49. | :37:57. | |
he's got a camera. What do you two normally | :37:58. | :38:09. | |
do when you hang It is comical but also very moving. | :38:10. | :38:59. | |
This is the way the disease is. Partly the disease. You have seen my | :39:00. | :39:04. | |
stand-up show which led to this documentary. Part of what I talk | :39:05. | :39:09. | |
about is when I first got the Dothan -- The diagnosis for my dad, I said, | :39:10. | :39:15. | |
has he got a disease or have you just met him? He has always been one | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
of those blokes who can express himself, he is very intelligent, but | :39:21. | :39:23. | |
emotionally through insulting banter. I thought, this is what he | :39:24. | :39:31. | |
is like. But, no, this is a cartoon of that self. He is an extreme | :39:32. | :39:36. | |
version of what he was. Part of it is funny. There's no point | :39:37. | :39:41. | |
pretending it is not. Part of it is sad. | :39:42. | :39:45. | |
I am try to find a balance. What is it like trying to look after him? | :39:46. | :39:50. | |
When you go around? We are lucky to be able to afford a | :39:51. | :39:56. | |
carer, lots of people can't. We meet some other families with people who | :39:57. | :39:59. | |
have Pick's Disease in a family and who have to live with their family | :40:00. | :40:02. | |
or the time. I saw my dad yesterday. Part of the | :40:03. | :40:08. | |
problem is the disease and the documentary charts this, the disease | :40:09. | :40:14. | |
changes. He can be constantly abusing me or someone in the room. I | :40:15. | :40:19. | |
can't take my children round because he swears so much. Other times, he | :40:20. | :40:25. | |
is quiet and withdrawn. A part of me deftly prefers the abuse because at | :40:26. | :40:31. | |
least I know that is my dad, and there is some spirit, he is engaged | :40:32. | :40:36. | |
and lively. The thing I fear more is him turning off. It is a weird | :40:37. | :40:40. | |
thing, it is very challenging, at the same time, I hold onto that | :40:41. | :40:46. | |
abusive sparky difficult side of him. | :40:47. | :40:52. | |
Why can't your kids go around. He is swearing, so what? | :40:53. | :40:56. | |
Certainly, a year ago when we started filming, when he was in the | :40:57. | :41:00. | |
grip of it, and it is still there but he is quieter now, he would also | :41:01. | :41:05. | |
be sexually inappropriate. Towards my daughter, towards anyone, any | :41:06. | :41:12. | |
woman. We couldn't really deal with that. I thought it was unfortunate | :41:13. | :41:20. | |
in terms of my kids only have one grandparent left and I want them to | :41:21. | :41:25. | |
have it possible some nice sense of him. | :41:26. | :41:27. | |
Since the disease has calmed down a bit, I have been able to take my | :41:28. | :41:30. | |
children round but at the same time that is when I worry that now he is | :41:31. | :41:35. | |
withdrawn which feels bleak. We will show another tip now where | :41:36. | :41:40. | |
you are helping to look after him by trimming his beard. Compared to that | :41:41. | :41:45. | |
first clip we showed where he is aggressive and full of abuse, this | :41:46. | :41:50. | |
is way he is much quieter and more... | :41:51. | :41:54. | |
More compliant. More compliant but not that much. | :41:55. | :41:57. | |
What the hell are you going on about? | :41:58. | :42:00. | |
We are going to try and give your beard a trim. | :42:01. | :42:03. | |
There's all sorts of creatures in there. | :42:04. | :42:09. | |
It's my bloody responsibility, not yours. | :42:10. | :42:11. | |
Why do you keep telling me what I should be doing? | :42:12. | :42:17. | |
I'm not telling you what you should be doing. | :42:18. | :42:19. | |
Just think of the money we'll save not going to the | :42:20. | :42:32. | |
You just asked us to do the other side. | :42:33. | :42:58. | |
Not complied but slightly quieter. That is ten months later. He is old | :42:59. | :43:21. | |
now. But part of me does still love that he is so sparky. Clive, one of | :43:22. | :43:28. | |
his carers, was laughing. Clive, I know, lives with him all the time, | :43:29. | :43:32. | |
he enjoys it when my dad is like that. Also one thing I liked about | :43:33. | :43:42. | |
that, my dad was annoyed and angry we were shaving his beard or though | :43:43. | :43:47. | |
he did need it. I love it when he said, do that side, and still gets | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
annoyed. My dad has been something of a curmudgeon. The disease has | :43:52. | :43:57. | |
lost any sense that needs to be controlled for social grace, that | :43:58. | :44:00. | |
has gone. You talk in the documentary, it is | :44:01. | :44:07. | |
your word, the damage done to you, because he has always been like | :44:08. | :44:11. | |
this, although it is exacerbated by the dementia. Defensive, he never | :44:12. | :44:18. | |
said, I love you, it has always been like that, that had an impact on you | :44:19. | :44:22. | |
which you are saying now you don't mind that any more. But what was the | :44:23. | :44:26. | |
damage? The film is a portrait of a family, | :44:27. | :44:34. | |
forgetting about the dementia. A particular type of family. My dad | :44:35. | :44:40. | |
was a 1970s dad, very male. I think, because I'm not like that with my | :44:41. | :44:43. | |
children, they are bored of hearing me say I love them. That is a sea | :44:44. | :44:48. | |
change in the way fathers are. But when I look back on it, the fact he | :44:49. | :44:53. | |
was like that made me who I am and I am happy with who I am. Don't think | :44:54. | :44:59. | |
I wouldn't -- I would be a comedian without my dad. He was always | :45:00. | :45:04. | |
wearing, out there, happy to joke about everything, that is at the | :45:05. | :45:08. | |
Rock of my being and I am grateful. It did mean he wasn't a sweet dad | :45:09. | :45:12. | |
who told me he loved me. But I wouldn't be the person I am now. | :45:13. | :45:18. | |
There is someone we will talk to, a viewer has got in touch, Paul in | :45:19. | :45:23. | |
Essex. Hello? Hello, and you? | :45:24. | :45:30. | |
Tell us about your experience? My mother is 90 with advanced | :45:31. | :45:35. | |
Alzheimer's, fairly immobile, with my five, 94 with the Mitu years | :45:36. | :45:42. | |
diagnosed dementia -- With my father. He is looking after her. We | :45:43. | :45:49. | |
have a carer coming in every morning. They were offered more | :45:50. | :45:51. | |
assistance because my dad doesn't like cooking. He has never really | :45:52. | :45:57. | |
cooked, just heated things up. He refuses to have anyone else in to | :45:58. | :46:04. | |
help. They do have a couple of days of respite to give my dad a chance | :46:05. | :46:06. | |
to get out. Is your dad well? Physically he's | :46:07. | :46:18. | |
OK. But he had dementia for two years as well. So your 92-year-old | :46:19. | :46:25. | |
dad who has dementia is looking after your 94-year-old mum... How is | :46:26. | :46:32. | |
that for you? Do you go around and see them a lot? I go around at least | :46:33. | :46:40. | |
once a week. If there are any medical appointments I deal with | :46:41. | :46:44. | |
that so I have to take mum in a wheelchair because she can't be left | :46:45. | :46:52. | |
on her own. If has got an appointment and vice versa How is | :46:53. | :46:55. | |
your engagement and recognition with them? Generally OK, but mum ajusz | :46:56. | :47:00. | |
anything I try and arrange. As far as she is is concerned in | :47:01. | :47:04. | |
Alzheimer's world everything is fine. She had | :47:05. | :47:17. | |
a situation recently A lot of people with dementia don't | :47:18. | :47:23. | |
recognise they have the condition and it is pointless trying to tell | :47:24. | :47:26. | |
them. So therefore, they don't understand why they should be at | :47:27. | :47:30. | |
doctors or wherever they're being taken to. | :47:31. | :47:36. | |
One viewer says, I lost my dad to Pick's Disease on the 16th of | :47:37. | :47:43. | |
February. It is very unusual that people don't know about this disease | :47:44. | :47:46. | |
so I will be watching. Can I say, one reason I wanted to | :47:47. | :47:52. | |
make it is we do have a slightly Bono view of dementia as a person in | :47:53. | :47:55. | |
a wheelchair in a blanket staring at the wall which is why I wanted to do | :47:56. | :48:00. | |
it. My experience is still very challenging but of a person totally | :48:01. | :48:05. | |
there, almost too much, rather than this absent thing. People who have | :48:06. | :48:10. | |
had that experience with Pick's Disease will understand we are | :48:11. | :48:13. | |
trying to change the narrative. Will your dad watch it? | :48:14. | :48:21. | |
Yes. He will be at home with Clive. He has watched the trails and | :48:22. | :48:24. | |
laughed throughout and said, that is me. | :48:25. | :48:28. | |
And he seemed to be fine. Julie says, my father has Pick's | :48:29. | :48:33. | |
Disease. He has had its ten years. He has closed down completely and | :48:34. | :48:37. | |
has no communication skills, he can't feed himself or go to the loo. | :48:38. | :48:41. | |
It is heartbreaking. But we hope he is not aware of what he has become. | :48:42. | :48:46. | |
He was never violent and never swore but he is slowly slipping away. | :48:47. | :48:54. | |
S I feel that's probably the way my dad is going and I find that very | :48:55. | :48:59. | |
difficult, but I know it is the same for so many people. Yeah. | :49:00. | :49:02. | |
Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you for talking to us. | :49:03. | :49:05. | |
You can watch David Baddiel's documentary The Trouble With Dad | :49:06. | :49:07. | |
It's day two of the Iraqi troops advance on western Mosul, | :49:08. | :49:14. | |
the last major stronghold of so-called Islamic | :49:15. | :49:16. | |
We'll be getting an update from near the frontline. | :49:17. | :49:23. | |
Should people convicted of cruelty against animals face much | :49:24. | :49:25. | |
The current maximum custodial sentence for the worst cases | :49:26. | :49:29. | |
of animal cruelty in England and Wales is six months, | :49:30. | :49:32. | |
but campaigners want this increased tenfold to five years - | :49:33. | :49:34. | |
describing current sentences as "shocking" and "laughable". | :49:35. | :50:47. | |
David Bowles is a spokesman for the RSPCA in Leeds. | :50:48. | :50:51. | |
Brian Wheelhouse runs the Whitehall Dog Rescue Shelter | :50:52. | :50:53. | |
in Wakefield, and on his lap is Benji, a bull terrier cross | :50:54. | :50:56. | |
Mike Butcher who has spent more than 40 years working | :50:57. | :51:02. | |
in the Special Operations Unit at the RSPCA dealing | :51:03. | :51:04. | |
Welcome all of you. One of the example in our film, a farm with 120 | :51:05. | :51:15. | |
horses in a state of neglect, 32 dead other animals, fined and jailed | :51:16. | :51:20. | |
for six months. Too lenient? Yeah, so the legislation that we've got is | :51:21. | :51:26. | |
ten years old next month. It is a good piece of legislation, but it is | :51:27. | :51:30. | |
based on 19th century sentencing because the sentencing wasn't | :51:31. | :51:34. | |
updated after the 1911 Act so what we're dealing with is sentencing | :51:35. | :51:37. | |
that's 105 years old and unfortunately the UK, England and | :51:38. | :51:40. | |
Wales have slipped behind, not only other parts of the UK like Northern | :51:41. | :51:44. | |
Ireland, but also other parts of Europe, Bulgaria is ahead of us in | :51:45. | :51:47. | |
terms of sentencing, Greece are ahead of us. Northern Ireland five | :51:48. | :51:52. | |
year, a maximum of five years in jail. Is there any evidence to show | :51:53. | :51:55. | |
that long of sentence, maximum sentence, is deterring people from | :51:56. | :52:00. | |
being cruel to animals? Well, the RSPCA does have evidence that judges | :52:01. | :52:06. | |
are getting frustrated, judges are frustrated with the lack of any | :52:07. | :52:09. | |
higher sentence. Do you have evidence that the longer sentence is | :52:10. | :52:12. | |
deterring people? It is difficult with the dogfighting that we come | :52:13. | :52:18. | |
across to show a deterrent effect, what we do know is the public | :52:19. | :52:21. | |
support this. We know the UK has slipped behind other people and we | :52:22. | :52:24. | |
also know that magistrates themselves arisation they would like | :52:25. | :52:31. | |
to impose longer sentencing on the most gratuitous and fighting issues. | :52:32. | :52:35. | |
Mike, you've dealt with the most awful cases. Tell us about the most | :52:36. | :52:41. | |
extreme. I have been doing this for 40 years and like myself and my | :52:42. | :52:45. | |
colleagues are dealing with this on a Bailey basis. People digging up a | :52:46. | :52:55. | |
badger and microwaving a rabbit and starving horses to death. My | :52:56. | :52:59. | |
colleague has described it much more eloquently than I can, but the | :53:00. | :53:03. | |
sentencing is just too low and I think magistrates have indicated on | :53:04. | :53:07. | |
many occasions that they wish they could give the more higher sentence | :53:08. | :53:10. | |
because there has to be a deterrent and the sort of stuff that we're | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
dealing with on a daily basis is horrific. Brian you have been | :53:15. | :53:19. | |
running a rescue shelter for 20 years and tell us what happened to | :53:20. | :53:23. | |
Bengi and what happened to the owner? We don't deal with the owner. | :53:24. | :53:31. | |
Bengi was found abandoned, but the dog wardens felt he had been used as | :53:32. | :53:35. | |
a bait dog because of the injuries on his face and neck. He had severe | :53:36. | :53:42. | |
lacerations and he had a condition where he had got a severe skin | :53:43. | :53:47. | |
problem. When you say a bait dog, describe what that actually means? A | :53:48. | :53:54. | |
bait dog is where the bait dog and they use that then to train the | :53:55. | :53:58. | |
fighting dogs on because they don't want the fighting dogs injured | :53:59. | :54:03. | |
because they're going to be putting them into later fights with other | :54:04. | :54:08. | |
fighting dogs as a reward for winning bets. Right. Do you think | :54:09. | :54:12. | |
increasing the jail term in England and Wales, if that were to happen, | :54:13. | :54:16. | |
the maximum jail term from six months to five years would stop | :54:17. | :54:23. | |
whoever used Bengi as a bait dog from doing it again? It won't sort | :54:24. | :54:32. | |
all the crimes out, but it will reduce them. You've only got to | :54:33. | :54:38. | |
think about, it's so low, it is unbelievable. You can get up to five | :54:39. | :54:42. | |
years for fly-tipping. You can get up to seven years for theft. But if | :54:43. | :54:49. | |
you take a dog and do horrendous things and I have done dog rescue | :54:50. | :54:53. | |
for 25 years, the dogs, we have had dogs we had a greyhound that had | :54:54. | :54:57. | |
been tied to a railway line and she had been hit by a train resulting in | :54:58. | :55:06. | |
severe injuries. Starvation, neglect, starvation of dogs. These | :55:07. | :55:10. | |
people are just getting off with it scot-free. It's just ridiculous. | :55:11. | :55:17. | |
It's time that things do get changed. We're the second most | :55:18. | :55:25. | |
lenient country in Europe for the actual penalties that are handed | :55:26. | :55:31. | |
out. Let me bring David back in. In January the department for the | :55:32. | :55:36. | |
environment said current sentencing practise for offences of animal | :55:37. | :55:40. | |
cruelty don't suggest that the courts are finding current | :55:41. | :55:44. | |
sentencing powers inadequate? The RSPCA looked at the number of people | :55:45. | :55:48. | |
that get sent to jail from the 800 cases each year. We've got probably | :55:49. | :55:52. | |
50 cases where the judge sup against the ceiling. If it was more than six | :55:53. | :55:56. | |
months, he would have applied a more than six months sentence and I think | :55:57. | :55:59. | |
that's the important thing to stress. It is not just about the | :56:00. | :56:06. | |
magistrates that are getting frustrated, all the public support | :56:07. | :56:10. | |
this, 70% of the public support this. We are supposed to be a nation | :56:11. | :56:15. | |
of animal lovers and we're slipping behind other countries. A Government | :56:16. | :56:21. | |
Spokesman said, "The Government will keep the strict legislation under | :56:22. | :56:25. | |
regular review." It doesn't sound like they're going to move in the | :56:26. | :56:29. | |
short-term? Well, we had a Select Committee report only just a couple | :56:30. | :56:32. | |
of months ago and that said raise it to five years. Obviously the RSPCA | :56:33. | :56:47. | |
supported what that. The RSPCA is confident that we could see the door | :56:48. | :56:51. | |
open. We have got a second reading of a Private Members' Bill on Friday | :56:52. | :56:55. | |
which I hope will get a lenient and sympathetic hearing from the | :56:56. | :56:57. | |
minister and we hope we will see the minister and the Government moving | :56:58. | :57:00. | |
on Friday. OK. Thank you very much. Thank you all of you, David, who is | :57:01. | :57:09. | |
a spokesman for the RSPCA, thank you Brian, and thanks to Bengi and Mike | :57:10. | :57:14. | |
Butcher who spent more than 40 years working in the special operations | :57:15. | :57:17. | |
unit at the RSPCA. Mike Pens is will be holding a press | :57:18. | :57:35. | |
conference shortly. We will bring it to you live as soon as that starts. | :57:36. | :57:41. | |
Before that the weather. Here is Carol. | :57:42. | :57:45. | |
Well, this morning there is a mild start. Those will be good | :57:46. | :57:58. | |
temperatures as maximum temperatures at this time of year particularly | :57:59. | :58:02. | |
that 15 Celsius. Is this mild weather going to last? Well, it is | :58:03. | :58:07. | |
through today. It is for some of us tomorrow, but as we head into the | :58:08. | :58:12. | |
middle and later part of this week, things turn more unsettled. Some of | :58:13. | :58:16. | |
us will see snow and strong winds as well and down goes the temperature, | :58:17. | :58:20. | |
but you can see it is fairly transient because in the Atlantic | :58:21. | :58:24. | |
mild air is waiting to come our way once again. So this morning there is | :58:25. | :58:28. | |
a lot of cloud around. There is hill fog and murk. Rain in Scotland and | :58:29. | :58:32. | |
Northern Ireland continuing to flow southwards getting into Northern | :58:33. | :58:35. | |
England and North Wales and very windy across the northern half of | :58:36. | :58:38. | |
the countriment for a time this morning we could have gusts up to | :58:39. | :58:42. | |
50mph across Northern England. Bear that in mind if you are in a high | :58:43. | :58:45. | |
sided vehicle or a light vehicle. But behind that band of rain, for | :58:46. | :58:49. | |
Northern Ireland, and also Scotland, into the afternoon, brighter skies. | :58:50. | :58:54. | |
Some showers and still pretty windy, but temperatures around about 11 | :58:55. | :58:58. | |
Celsius. So for some, a little bit lower than where we currently have. | :58:59. | :59:02. | |
Across parts of Northern England we have got that patchy rain extending | :59:03. | :59:05. | |
in through North Wales. As we come south, there is a lot of cloud | :59:06. | :59:10. | |
around. But where the cloud breaks, we could have highs up to 16 | :59:11. | :59:14. | |
Celsius. There is a low probability we could hit 17 Celsius. Into the | :59:15. | :59:18. | |
south-west, again a lot of cloud. Some damp conditions. Some murky | :59:19. | :59:22. | |
conditions. And it is the same for Wales, but in North Wales, we've got | :59:23. | :59:26. | |
that rain sinking south. Through this evening and overnight, the rain | :59:27. | :59:29. | |
continues to push into the Midlands through Wales and then it | :59:30. | :59:33. | |
rejuvenates as it pivots and starts to work its way back northwards. | :59:34. | :59:37. | |
Behind that, in Scotland and Northern England under clear skies | :59:38. | :59:40. | |
it will be a colder night and we will see snow above about 500 meters | :59:41. | :59:45. | |
in the Scottish mountains, but note the difference in the temperature, | :59:46. | :59:48. | |
still very mild in southern counties. Tomorrow we start off on | :59:49. | :59:52. | |
the cloudy and wet note across Southern England and Wales. Move | :59:53. | :59:55. | |
north of that, we've got brighter skies and sunshine coming through, | :59:56. | :59:58. | |
but we have got more wet and windy weather coming in across north-west | :59:59. | :00:01. | |
Scotland and at the same time, as this band of rain pushes northwards, | :00:02. | :00:05. | |
it almost merges, but not quite. And then look at the temperatures | :00:06. | :00:09. | |
starting to come down further in the north, but still not too bad in the | :00:10. | :00:12. | |
south, but then after that, it does turn that bit colder. | :00:13. | :00:20. | |
It's Monday, it's 10am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire. | :00:21. | :00:24. | |
How Amy's Place, set up in memory of Amy Winehouse, | :00:25. | :00:27. | |
is helping young women with drug and alcohol addictions. | :00:28. | :00:33. | |
The thing that made me cry at was a phone call I got from a social | :00:34. | :00:41. | |
worker. I can't remember if it was my sister. Saying they would start | :00:42. | :00:45. | |
adoption proceedings for my kids. From that day when it happened, I | :00:46. | :00:54. | |
changed my life completely. Thank you to those who have got in | :00:55. | :01:00. | |
touch. Bob says what a fantastic inspiration and a realisation that | :01:01. | :01:04. | |
life can get better. In a moment we will be speaking to | :01:05. | :01:08. | |
one of the lived in that recovery house. -- one of the women. | :01:09. | :01:13. | |
Iraqi Government forces renew their assault on western Mosul, | :01:14. | :01:16. | |
the last major stronghold of so-called Islamic state in Iraq, | :01:17. | :01:18. | |
we'll be hearing from those on the front line. | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
Army vehicles are getting ready. Only a couple of kilometres that | :01:22. | :01:29. | |
way, they know those -- goes then are coming. | :01:30. | :01:32. | |
And Anglina Jolie speaks exclusively to the BBC ahead of her new film | :01:33. | :01:35. | |
And her divorce from Brad Pitt. And her views on President Trump. | :01:36. | :01:48. | |
I think that the American people are bigger than any president. | :01:49. | :01:51. | |
I suppose I have faith in my country and in what it is founded | :01:52. | :01:57. | |
Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news. | :01:58. | :02:12. | |
Council tax rises are planned by nearly all of England's local | :02:13. | :02:15. | |
authorities in the coming year, but the organisation that represents | :02:16. | :02:17. | |
them is warning that deep cuts to services will still be needed. | :02:18. | :02:20. | |
The Local Government Association says social care services | :02:21. | :02:22. | |
for the elderly and disabled are at breaking point and will | :02:23. | :02:25. | |
After several falls, Maureen Edwards is getting support | :02:26. | :02:35. | |
to regain some independence and rebuild her confidence. | :02:36. | :02:37. | |
She needs help each day, which allows her and her husband | :02:38. | :02:40. | |
I'm grateful for all that they've done for me, | :02:41. | :02:53. | |
Without them, I don't know what I would have done. | :02:54. | :02:56. | |
Councils fund most social care, and today's survey shows | :02:57. | :03:09. | |
the majority of them struggling to meet growing costs. | :03:10. | :03:11. | |
There are 151 local authorities in England, 147 plan to raise | :03:12. | :03:14. | |
council tax specifically to help pay for social care. | :03:15. | :03:20. | |
But councils warn that won't plug the funding gap and that could mean | :03:21. | :03:23. | |
There has been a united voice of local government to say | :03:24. | :03:31. | |
that they need to have more funding into social care and that the crisis | :03:32. | :03:34. | |
The funding for local government needs to be resolved immediately. | :03:35. | :03:43. | |
The Government says extra money is being put into social care | :03:44. | :03:45. | |
and authorities will soon be able to keep all the money they raise | :03:46. | :03:49. | |
Iraqi government forces have resumed their offensive | :03:50. | :03:59. | |
to try to win control of western Mosul - the last major stronghold | :04:00. | :04:02. | |
Thousands of troops are involved in the assault on the western half | :04:03. | :04:06. | |
of the city, which is now in its second day. | :04:07. | :04:09. | |
Last month, Iraqi government forces secured the eastern part of Mosul | :04:10. | :04:11. | |
Two senior Ukip officials in Merseyside have resigned | :04:12. | :04:19. | |
in protest at their leader Paul Nuttall's false claim - | :04:20. | :04:21. | |
since retracted - that he lost close friends | :04:22. | :04:23. | |
The chairmen of the Merseyside branch and the Liverpool branch | :04:24. | :04:34. | |
cited Mr Nuttall's "unprofessional approach and crass insensitivity." | :04:35. | :04:36. | |
Saying Mr Nuttall's comments had provoked "a strong reaction" | :04:37. | :04:39. | |
Last week, the Ukip leader apologised after admitting that | :04:40. | :04:42. | |
a claim on his website that he had lost close friends at | :04:43. | :04:45. | |
Campaigners have called the current maximum jail term for animal cruelty | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
Battersea Dogs And Cats Home is calling for prison sentences | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
to be increased from six months to five years to bring | :04:54. | :04:56. | |
the punishment in line with crimes such as fly-tipping. | :04:57. | :04:58. | |
England and Wales currently have the lowest maximum | :04:59. | :05:00. | |
It is so low it is unbelievable. You can get up to five years for | :05:01. | :05:19. | |
fly-tipping. Up to seven years for theft. But if you take a dog and do | :05:20. | :05:26. | |
horrendous things, I have done dog rescue the 25 years, the dogs we | :05:27. | :05:30. | |
have picked up, tied to a railway line, she had been hit by a train | :05:31. | :05:37. | |
resulting in severe injuries, starvation, total neglect, | :05:38. | :05:44. | |
starvation of dogs. These people are getting off with it scot free. | :05:45. | :05:46. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30. | :05:47. | :05:54. | |
We are going to be talking about Amy's Place. This e-mail from | :05:55. | :06:04. | |
Rachel, I am desperate to get help, I have tried to get into a rehab | :06:05. | :06:10. | |
centre. I have relapsed after 14 years clean. It has affected my work | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
and relationships. I just wanted you to know how impossible it is to get | :06:15. | :06:21. | |
help. Rachel, I will give you a phone number to call and a website | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
which may point you in the right direction. | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
Audrey says, Amy's Place empowers people to be responsible for | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
themselves which is the only way forward, well done, we need more | :06:33. | :06:35. | |
places like this. John says, and Joss says, this | :06:36. | :06:43. | |
addiction report is fab. Support is vital. And, you have featured | :06:44. | :06:49. | |
someone full stories of hope and recovery. Details of organisations | :06:50. | :06:54. | |
offering help and support here. Time now for the sport. Some | :06:55. | :07:23. | |
breaking news regarding that funding story. Wheelchair rugby has had its | :07:24. | :07:28. | |
appeal against a total funding cut rejected by UK Sport. They had | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
previously received ?3 million for the last Paralympic cycle. One of | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
five sports having their funding taken away for the Tokyo Olympics | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
and Paralympics. They are said to be furious. Table tennis and goalball | :07:42. | :07:47. | |
have also appealed after being told they would continue to be not | :07:48. | :07:52. | |
funded. Badminton, archery, fencing and weightlifting are the others | :07:53. | :07:57. | |
waiting to hear if their appeals have been successful. Badminton | :07:58. | :08:02. | |
reached their medal target with bronze in the men's doubles in Rio. | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
They said the effect of losing their money would be catastrophic. And | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
they would be reduced to nothing more than a hobby sport. As those | :08:11. | :08:16. | |
decisions come through from UK Sport, we will have reaction from | :08:17. | :08:17. | |
those governing bodies. Non-League Sutton United face | :08:18. | :08:22. | |
Arsenal in the fifth round of the FA Cup waiting for the winners | :08:23. | :08:25. | |
are Lincoln City who became the first non-league | :08:26. | :08:27. | |
team in over 100 years The draw also pitched | :08:28. | :08:29. | |
Chelsea against United beat Blackburn Rovers 2-1 | :08:30. | :08:34. | |
at Ewood Park yesterday. They came from behind and needed | :08:35. | :08:41. | |
Zlatan Ibrahimovic to come off So Jose Mourinho is heading back | :08:42. | :08:44. | |
to Stamford Bridge where he had two He thinks his old club will be | :08:45. | :08:50. | |
taking Cup very seriously whereas he has quite a few | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
competitions to juggle I still plays Santa Etienne, I had | :08:55. | :09:07. | |
to play the final, I have two place hopefully another opponent in the | :09:08. | :09:15. | |
Europa League. I had to fight for a top four position in the | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
premiership. So I have so many things to think about. Probably | :09:22. | :09:26. | |
Chelsea can only think about that because I think they are champions | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
and they have nothing else to play for. So the FA Cup is something I | :09:31. | :09:33. | |
believe important to them. Ben Stokes has become the most | :09:34. | :09:37. | |
expensive foreign player Pune Rising Giants paid | :09:38. | :09:39. | |
?1.7 million for him in Stokes surpasses the ?1 | :09:40. | :09:47. | |
million that was paid Former Leicester director of rugby | :09:48. | :09:51. | |
Richard Cockerill has a new job. He's been appointed | :09:52. | :10:04. | |
head coach of Edinburgh He was sacked by the Tigers | :10:05. | :10:06. | |
in January and is currently Donald Trump's deputy - the American | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
Vice-President Mike Pence - is in Brussels meeting | :10:11. | :10:24. | |
EU and Nato leaders. Both organistions Mr Trump has been | :10:25. | :10:26. | |
critical of in the past. He's due to be speaking alongside | :10:27. | :10:34. | |
the President of the European This morning, we've been given | :10:35. | :10:36. | |
exclusive access to a recovery house for women under the age of 30 | :10:37. | :10:44. | |
addicted to alcohol and drugs. It's been set up in memory | :10:45. | :10:47. | |
to Amy Winehouse who died of alcohol Women go there after | :10:48. | :10:50. | |
rehab but before they're Our reporter Jean Mackenzie | :10:51. | :10:56. | |
was given exclusive access to the house, and spent time | :10:57. | :10:59. | |
with the first women to live there. We played her full report | :11:00. | :11:02. | |
earlier in the programme - here's a short extract - | :11:03. | :11:05. | |
you may find some of the details I'm going to have duck | :11:06. | :11:08. | |
egg in the front room, At 19, Grace is the | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
youngest woman here. She turned to alcohol | :11:13. | :11:15. | |
after a difficult upbringing. At what point did you think, | :11:16. | :11:21. | |
I'm an alcoholic? It was only in November 2015, | :11:22. | :11:31. | |
where I nearly died. They told me it is a waiting game | :11:32. | :11:35. | |
now, whether we see your organs So it was four days of me sitting | :11:36. | :11:38. | |
in, hoping and praying This house is the only | :11:39. | :11:43. | |
one of its kind. It takes in young women for up | :11:44. | :11:47. | |
to two years after they have been through rehab, and helps them stay | :11:48. | :11:50. | |
clean while they take their first Each morning, the women | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
must go to one of these check-ins, so the house knows | :11:54. | :11:59. | |
they are safe and well. I kind of just want to go out | :12:00. | :12:01. | |
and walk for the day. Each woman gets their own flat | :12:02. | :12:14. | |
within the house, which they pay No drugs and alcohol, | :12:15. | :12:22. | |
no overnight guests, and they must We do six of them | :12:23. | :12:29. | |
a month, just randomly. If we suspect there's something | :12:30. | :12:35. | |
going on, we might do a few more. We met people in treatment | :12:36. | :12:39. | |
who were scared to death of what was going to happen | :12:40. | :12:48. | |
when they finished their treatment. For a lot of them, all | :12:49. | :12:51. | |
they could think about is, if I have to go back | :12:52. | :12:54. | |
to where I was before, I'm just not When your room is next door | :12:55. | :12:58. | |
to somebody who is selling drugs, you can never get well, | :12:59. | :13:02. | |
in a sense. You are always stuck | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
in the conundrum of do I go next door and go back to my old habits, | :13:08. | :13:09. | |
or do I go to a meeting? These are the sorts of skills that | :13:10. | :13:13. | |
are going to help us, you, in life. A lot of work is put | :13:14. | :13:17. | |
into preparing the women There are very few recovery houses | :13:18. | :13:19. | |
that offer this level of support, but the Amy Winehouse Foundation | :13:20. | :13:29. | |
says its approach can save lives. It takes a lot of effort | :13:30. | :13:31. | |
to be in recovery. It takes a lot more effort | :13:32. | :13:35. | |
to be in addiction. Since you have been here | :13:36. | :13:37. | |
last week, I've finally I think I'm kind of nervous, | :13:38. | :13:47. | |
but also really excited Before, it was very black, | :13:48. | :13:51. | |
and there wasn't anything Now I realise I have | :13:52. | :13:55. | |
a long life ahead of me. Let's talk to Alice O'Toole | :13:56. | :14:03. | |
who is one of the residents She was addicted to the class a drug | :14:04. | :14:06. | |
ketamine, a horse tranqulliser. Dominic Ruffy, one of | :14:07. | :14:13. | |
the directors of Amy's Place. who has advised the Government | :14:14. | :14:15. | |
on its approach to addiction. And Jimmy Barclay, a recovering | :14:16. | :14:20. | |
heroin addict who has been Welcome, all of you. Let me ask you, | :14:21. | :14:36. | |
Dominick, first of all, why it is important to have a place | :14:37. | :14:40. | |
specifically for younger women? I think essentially there are very | :14:41. | :14:44. | |
few places for younger women in the country. Women come in with a | :14:45. | :14:50. | |
variety of context needs underlying their addiction issues and if you do | :14:51. | :14:54. | |
not address them, will lead them back to using. | :14:55. | :14:59. | |
It is all very well going into rehab time and again but unless you spend | :15:00. | :15:03. | |
time after rehab is looking at those issues, then you properly might... | :15:04. | :15:13. | |
When I was last in rehab, they said, we have lived with you as an addict | :15:14. | :15:18. | |
over 8000 days. Ponder on that when you think how long you might have to | :15:19. | :15:23. | |
spend in rehab. I spent time at a recovery has and it has taken me | :15:24. | :15:27. | |
five years to have a manageable lifestyle. The drink and drugs are a | :15:28. | :15:34. | |
symptom of an underlying problem which is hard to imagine -- manage | :15:35. | :15:38. | |
your emotional well-being, not to say young women have very different | :15:39. | :15:43. | |
problems, the problems we have as men, but they certainly are aspects | :15:44. | :15:49. | |
in family history that need looking at. | :15:50. | :15:53. | |
Alice you were in a dry house before you got to Amy's Place. What | :15:54. | :16:01. | |
difference does it make being around women your own age? I think that the | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
environment is just very different because although there was myself | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
and another younger woman in that house, generally they were older and | :16:10. | :16:13. | |
so they have most women had children and it was just very different | :16:14. | :16:17. | |
concerns and I think that sometimes as a younger person in that | :16:18. | :16:21. | |
environment you could kind of get left aside because it is like you've | :16:22. | :16:25. | |
got years. You're going to be fine and I understand that, but I think | :16:26. | :16:30. | |
what's good about Amy's Place you can feel the sense of hope for the | :16:31. | :16:34. | |
future. There is so much that we can do with our lives. You have got two | :16:35. | :16:39. | |
years there. As we saw in Jean's film, help and support and a sort | :16:40. | :16:44. | |
of, hopefully a plan about how to manage your life so you're never | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
tempted to back to the ket mean or whatever it maybe. Will you be ready | :16:50. | :16:52. | |
in two years? I think so. I'd like to think so. I don't see why not | :16:53. | :16:57. | |
with the support that I get now and I think it is realistic. Do you mind | :16:58. | :17:05. | |
me asking how you are drawn towards ket owe mean? I think my experience | :17:06. | :17:12. | |
with all drugs and I it's very common for most addicts like Dominic | :17:13. | :17:17. | |
said, there is a kind of, there is something within me that I wasn't | :17:18. | :17:21. | |
able to cope with my life. My experiences, I didn't know how to | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
manage my emotions or balance work or school being sociable and drugs | :17:27. | :17:31. | |
were, you know, at the time they did the job. They enabled me to meet | :17:32. | :17:37. | |
people and they dulled anything that I was feeling that I couldn't cope | :17:38. | :17:41. | |
with. As a young person, it's part of the culture really. If we look at | :17:42. | :17:45. | |
the UK today, binge-drinking, everything like that, it's just, | :17:46. | :17:51. | |
yeah. Dominic, what if somebody relapses when they are in Amy's | :17:52. | :17:56. | |
Place? We don't have a throw them out policy. We would rather work | :17:57. | :18:02. | |
with women to help them re-establish their recovery. If need be, they | :18:03. | :18:08. | |
will be referred into a rehabilitation centre and keep the | :18:09. | :18:13. | |
space open for a lady. If it is a relapse, if a lady came back and | :18:14. | :18:19. | |
said I had one drink and it was a mistake, we will work with that and | :18:20. | :18:23. | |
the team wrap themselves around that person and make sure that person | :18:24. | :18:28. | |
reapplies themselves. How do you measure success then? How do we | :18:29. | :18:34. | |
measure success? Engagement in outside activities like | :18:35. | :18:39. | |
volunteering, looking at employment opportunities, education | :18:40. | :18:41. | |
opportunities, silly things, getting up in the morning on time. Is your | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
house tidy? Are you manageable? Are you happy? Once people leave, you | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
have only been going for six months, once people leave would you then | :18:52. | :18:55. | |
monitor them to see who stays clean? Yeah, I mean this is consistent | :18:56. | :19:01. | |
across the foundation, but we have a family feel amongst our programmes | :19:02. | :19:07. | |
and our volunteers in Amy's Place, yes we would very much envisage | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
looking at the long-term outcomes of what this programme does. It is | :19:12. | :19:17. | |
?7600 Perez dent per place per year. Yes. Noreen, hello. You think we | :19:18. | :19:22. | |
need more of these recovery houses? Without a doubt. Why? We put people | :19:23. | :19:27. | |
into rehab and we deal with the issues, why they are using drugs and | :19:28. | :19:31. | |
their behaviours and the consequence of such. And then we forget that | :19:32. | :19:36. | |
actually, the majority of people have never held a job. Have never | :19:37. | :19:42. | |
had a tenancy and lived on their own and have never paid bills and missed | :19:43. | :19:48. | |
out on education and need training and literacy and the basic things | :19:49. | :19:53. | |
that you and I would take for granted and we started doing this | :19:54. | :19:59. | |
about ten years ago and outcomes significantly went up so people | :20:00. | :20:03. | |
weren't returning to drugs and alcohol because actually we had | :20:04. | :20:07. | |
slowly introduced them back into the community and taken responsibility | :20:08. | :20:12. | |
as well. And family issues and relationships, all those things that | :20:13. | :20:17. | |
we don't really deal with in rehab. The every day things and the | :20:18. | :20:21. | |
recovery houses have been so important, but they must have a | :20:22. | :20:26. | |
programme with them. If somebody is in a house, and housing benefit has | :20:27. | :20:33. | |
been claimed and they're just being sent to AA that's not a recovery | :20:34. | :20:37. | |
house and that's vital because people don't know how to deal with | :20:38. | :20:40. | |
those things and they will return to using drugs or alcohol. Jimmy, you | :20:41. | :20:45. | |
spent decades in and out of rehab and in and out of prison too. You | :20:46. | :20:52. | |
get into Noreen's recovery house in Staffordshire, was that the | :20:53. | :20:55. | |
difference? That was the big difference. I only had been in jail | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
and that was the only place I stayed clean and felt comfortable was in | :21:00. | :21:03. | |
prison which is sad to say and then it came to a head in July 2015 where | :21:04. | :21:08. | |
someone suggested to me just give it a try, go around the corner and give | :21:09. | :21:12. | |
it a try. I didn't want to be here anymore. There was numerous attempts | :21:13. | :21:19. | |
at suicide and yeah, I went into the rehab for the first time and it gave | :21:20. | :21:22. | |
me some sort of growning and I started looking at myself and then | :21:23. | :21:26. | |
how to live, but it wasn't so much the rehab, it was the after care I | :21:27. | :21:30. | |
got after the rehab. You do however many weeks programme, but you need | :21:31. | :21:35. | |
what the recovery houses offer afterwards? I spent 30 years on | :21:36. | :21:39. | |
addiction and I got 18 weeks of recovery and I thought where am I | :21:40. | :21:44. | |
going next and I was petrified. I didn't know how to live my life and | :21:45. | :21:50. | |
the only way I knew how was how I used to live. I started volunteering | :21:51. | :21:56. | |
around the enterprise of the rehab and I've continued that. I stayed in | :21:57. | :22:00. | |
the recovery house for six or seven months. I got my own flat, I was | :22:01. | :22:06. | |
offered paid work and got myself work into work and got myself back | :22:07. | :22:10. | |
into society and carried on using the fellowships and the meetings in | :22:11. | :22:16. | |
the evenings and I'm trying to build up my life. I have got my daughter | :22:17. | :22:20. | |
back in my life and my family back in my life. It is getting | :22:21. | :22:24. | |
manageable. That's a really optimistic story, isn't it, Alice? | :22:25. | :22:28. | |
Yes. You say we need more. We talked about the funding. You would get a | :22:29. | :22:31. | |
referral from a council or a charity. Your housing benefit which | :22:32. | :22:38. | |
you pay to Amy's Place is paid for by the taxpayer. There is No vote in | :22:39. | :22:43. | |
a political saying, "We want to open more recovery houses." No votes at | :22:44. | :22:48. | |
all. Drugs and alcohol is not sexy. Most of the local authorities are | :22:49. | :22:53. | |
going to be up for election and you know, potholes and street lights, | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
but I think... Sorry to interrupt Noreen, from the people I've | :22:59. | :23:01. | |
interviewed over the years, a number of people still think it is a | :23:02. | :23:05. | |
choice, you could wake up one morning and say, "I'm not going to | :23:06. | :23:08. | |
take heroin anymore." People think this still. You could wake up and go | :23:09. | :23:14. | |
I'm not going to have ketomene anymore. It is an illness, you don't | :23:15. | :23:20. | |
have a choice? It is a stigma and that's why it is so hard to get | :23:21. | :23:24. | |
funding because if there is not much money then you're not going to give | :23:25. | :23:28. | |
it to people who are drug addicts or alcoholics, you know what I mean? | :23:29. | :23:31. | |
And housing benefit because the individual would be claiming housing | :23:32. | :23:35. | |
benefit anyway, that goes towards it, but unfortunately at the moment, | :23:36. | :23:38. | |
you know, local authorities are cutting drug and alcohol budgets by | :23:39. | :23:45. | |
59%, rehabs are closing, I have never known of so many rehabs that | :23:46. | :23:48. | |
are actually closing because the funding has been cut. So we're going | :23:49. | :23:54. | |
back 20 years, you know, as from April, most areas will only be able | :23:55. | :23:59. | |
to prescribe Met owe done and they will be carrying huge case loads and | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
Staffordshire they will be carrying 80 to 100, so it will be methadone | :24:05. | :24:09. | |
and go. We've lost 20 years of recovery and coming to successful | :24:10. | :24:14. | |
outcomes, we're going to lose all of that. And the experience. OK. Thank | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
you. On that note, thank you very much. Thank you for coming on the | :24:19. | :24:21. | |
programme. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you for allowing us | :24:22. | :24:23. | |
into Amy's Place as well. If you are or have been affected | :24:24. | :24:30. | |
by addiction issues raised, you can find details | :24:31. | :24:32. | |
of organisations offering info Or you can call for free, | :24:33. | :24:34. | |
at any time to hear recorded We are still waiting for that press | :24:35. | :24:46. | |
conference from Vice-President Mike Pence. Naomi Grimley is there. What | :24:47. | :24:58. | |
are we expecting? Officials are expecting som warm words about the | :24:59. | :25:01. | |
EU. There is a feeling that the language from the White House has | :25:02. | :25:07. | |
just been too add va certificatial and too erratic. In particular the | :25:08. | :25:11. | |
remarks by Donald Trump that he thinks Brexit was a good idea a that | :25:12. | :25:14. | |
he was hoping more countries will follow suit. That didn't go down | :25:15. | :25:25. | |
very well at all with Jean-Claude Juncker. We have got him meeting | :25:26. | :25:33. | |
Donald Tusk later. Donald Tusk classed America as one of the | :25:34. | :25:37. | |
threats to the EU because of those kind of statements coming out of the | :25:38. | :25:43. | |
White House. Cheers, Naomi. We will be back there live as soon as | :25:44. | :25:49. | |
Vice-President Mike Pence begins to speak. | :25:50. | :25:51. | |
Now, for something you may find increasingly familiar. | :25:52. | :25:54. | |
It is all fake stuff. Not you. Not you. Your organisation's terrible. | :25:55. | :26:00. | |
Your organisation's terrible. Let's... Don't be Helmand province | :26:01. | :26:06. | |
I'm not going to give you a question. You are fake news. Go | :26:07. | :26:09. | |
ahead. BBC News, that's another beauty! As far as Buzz feed which is | :26:10. | :26:17. | |
a failing pile of garbage. As you know you have a running war with the | :26:18. | :26:22. | |
media. They are among the most dishonest human beings on earth. | :26:23. | :26:25. | |
REPORTER: Thank you very much, Mr President. . Where are you from? The | :26:26. | :26:32. | |
BBC. Here is another beauty. A good line. Impartial, free and fair. | :26:33. | :26:37. | |
Yeah, sure. Mr President... Just like CNN, right? Tomorrow they will | :26:38. | :26:42. | |
say Donald Trump rants and raves at the press. I'm not ranting and | :26:43. | :26:48. | |
raving, I'm telling you, you're dishonest people, but I'm not | :26:49. | :26:51. | |
ranting and raving, I love this, I'm having a good time doing this. | :26:52. | :26:57. | |
It's a refrain we've heard from President Donald | :26:58. | :26:59. | |
Trump time and time again - when he's facing difficult questions | :27:00. | :27:02. | |
or when he wants to dismiss reports he doesn't like. | :27:03. | :27:04. | |
But he's also been peddling his own fake news, too. | :27:05. | :27:06. | |
You look at what's happening last night in Sweden, Sweden, who would | :27:07. | :27:14. | |
believe this, Sweden. They took in large numbers that and they're | :27:15. | :27:16. | |
having problems like they never thought possible. | :27:17. | :27:19. | |
As we now know there was no such incident. | :27:20. | :27:21. | |
The Swedish government has asked for an explanation | :27:22. | :27:23. | |
Donald Trump then tried to clarify what he meant tweeting. | :27:24. | :27:43. | |
"My statement as to what's happening in Sweden | :27:44. | :27:49. | |
was in reference to a story that was broadcast on Fox News | :27:50. | :27:54. | |
This is a clip from Fox News that the President may | :27:55. | :27:58. | |
You can look at France and Belgium. They have been doing it for that | :27:59. | :28:07. | |
period of time and for longer. You can see the social unrest and the | :28:08. | :28:09. | |
terrorism that's happening there. Sweden is a relatively new policy | :28:10. | :28:15. | |
for them and by the way, Sweden had its first terrorist Islamic attack | :28:16. | :28:19. | |
not that long ago, so they're getting a taste of whae we we have | :28:20. | :28:25. | |
been seeing. Let's talk to Doctor Jan | :28:26. | :28:32. | |
Halper-Hayes a republican commentator and a member | :28:33. | :28:43. | |
of President Trump's transition team Emma Johansen, a school librarian | :28:44. | :28:45. | |
who was in charge of the official @sweden Twitter account on Saturday | :28:46. | :28:49. | |
night and found herself fielding hundreds of questions | :28:50. | :28:51. | |
from concerned people in Sweden. Ryan Girdusky, a senior writer | :28:52. | :28:53. | |
for Red Alert Politics and a Donald Trump supporter, | :28:54. | :28:56. | |
joins me on webcam from New York. Emma, so how did you respond to what | :28:57. | :29:06. | |
Mr Trump was saying? As soon as I got word from the followers that | :29:07. | :29:12. | |
something was going on and someone sent a link, some follower sent the | :29:13. | :29:16. | |
link to the clip where he was saying this and then I went out to the main | :29:17. | :29:24. | |
newspapers here in Sweden to check, to see if there was nothing going | :29:25. | :29:28. | |
on. I told everyone that nothing happened. It's not true. That's | :29:29. | :29:34. | |
pretty much what I said. Right. We will see your tweet actually. You | :29:35. | :29:37. | |
were having to tell people there has not been a terrorist attack? Yeah. | :29:38. | :29:42. | |
That was pretty much what I was saying. What do you make of this? | :29:43. | :29:48. | |
Does it matter? Well, no, I really think it doesn't, but I think it is | :29:49. | :29:52. | |
a perfect example of what he was talking about about fake news | :29:53. | :29:56. | |
because people seize upon it and then you see all these articles and | :29:57. | :30:00. | |
when I pulled it up on Google it is like well Donald Trump was really | :30:01. | :30:04. | |
right. There was the neo-Nazis going to the refugee camps and there has | :30:05. | :30:10. | |
been a lot of corruption and rape going on. The thing that happened is | :30:11. | :30:13. | |
that anything he says, we're pouncing on it and then we're having | :30:14. | :30:17. | |
to talk about it when we could talk about so many more important things | :30:18. | :30:23. | |
such as the fact that we really do support Nato and Pence made it clear | :30:24. | :30:28. | |
that unless the 27 other nations start paying their share, America's | :30:29. | :30:35. | |
not going to carry the load anymore. Ryan, does it not matter if he | :30:36. | :30:40. | |
doesn't get his facts right, but it matters if other people don't get | :30:41. | :30:41. | |
their facts right? president has a tendency to speak in | :30:42. | :31:03. | |
broad terms, sometimes to his benefit when he is campaigning, | :31:04. | :31:05. | |
sometimes to his detriment. He did not give exact detail of what he was | :31:06. | :31:06. | |
referring to, to the crowd. And causing hysteria in the US of | :31:07. | :31:35. | |
America. Like what? The Associated Press | :31:36. | :31:41. | |
published on Friday and article saying the president was considering | :31:42. | :31:47. | |
using 100,000 troops, National Guard troops, to round up the illegal | :31:48. | :31:52. | |
aliens in seven states. That was a leaked e-mail that was a draft from | :31:53. | :31:58. | |
a memo, it never mentioned 100,000. Another example, the Associated | :31:59. | :32:05. | |
Press said President Sharp planned on leaving Mexico to the president | :32:06. | :32:14. | |
of Mexico, that was not true. -- President Trump. | :32:15. | :32:25. | |
The New York Times talking about Russians when it was Lithuanians. | :32:26. | :32:33. | |
The press has expanded the hysteria. The more news hits you get, it is a | :32:34. | :32:42. | |
sad state. The press has to be held accountable. | :32:43. | :32:45. | |
Thank you all very much. As Iraqi forces battle | :32:46. | :32:50. | |
to reclaim the city of Mosul - the last stronghold of Islamic State | :32:51. | :32:55. | |
in the country - we'll speak to charities attempting to help | :32:56. | :32:57. | |
the three-quarters of a million Angelina Jolie talks exclusively | :32:58. | :33:00. | |
to the BBC about her latest film, the Trump presidency and her divorce | :33:01. | :33:09. | |
from Brad Pitt. Time now for the news | :33:10. | :33:19. | |
from the BBC Newsroom. The body which represents local | :33:20. | :33:22. | |
authorities in England has warned that deep cuts to services will be | :33:23. | :33:25. | |
needed - despite rises The Local Government | :33:26. | :33:27. | |
Association says social care services will swallow up the extra | :33:28. | :33:32. | |
money raised and that councils The Government says extra money | :33:33. | :33:35. | |
is being put into social care. Iraqi government forces have | :33:36. | :33:43. | |
resumed their offensive to try to win control of western | :33:44. | :33:45. | |
Mosul - the last major stronghold Thousands of troops | :33:46. | :33:48. | |
are involved in the assault on the western half of the city, | :33:49. | :33:52. | |
which is now in its second day. Last month, Iraqi government forces | :33:53. | :33:55. | |
secured the eastern part of Mosul Two senior members of Ukip | :33:56. | :33:58. | |
in Merseyside have resigned in protest at the controversy | :33:59. | :34:05. | |
involving their party leader Paul Nuttall, | :34:06. | :34:09. | |
and the Hillsborough tragedy. Last week, Mr Nuttall apologised | :34:10. | :34:12. | |
after admitting that suggestions on his website | :34:13. | :34:15. | |
that he had lost close personal friends in | :34:16. | :34:17. | |
the tragedy were inaccurate. The chairmen of the Merseyside | :34:18. | :34:19. | |
branch and the Liverpool branch cited Mr Nuttall's "unprofessional | :34:20. | :34:21. | |
approach and crass insensitivity." And saying Mr Nuttall's comments had | :34:22. | :34:24. | |
provoked "a strong reaction" Members of the House Of Lords | :34:25. | :34:26. | |
are to begin debating the legislation that will allow | :34:27. | :34:35. | |
the government to start The bill passed through | :34:36. | :34:37. | |
the Commons unammended, but it's thought opposition | :34:38. | :34:44. | |
and cross-bench peers are seeking guarantees about the rights of EU | :34:45. | :34:47. | |
citizens living in Britain - and about the role of Parliament | :34:48. | :34:49. | |
in scrutinising the process Campaigners have called the current | :34:50. | :34:52. | |
maximum jail term for animal cruelty Battersea Dogs And Cats Home | :34:53. | :34:57. | |
is calling for prison sentences to be increased from six | :34:58. | :35:01. | |
months to five years to bring the punishment in line with crimes | :35:02. | :35:03. | |
such as fly tipping. England and Wales currently | :35:04. | :35:06. | |
have the lowest maximum Uber has said it will conduct | :35:07. | :35:08. | |
an "urgent investigation" into claims of sexual harassment | :35:09. | :35:14. | |
at the company. A blog post written | :35:15. | :35:16. | |
by a former employee detailed a string of instances | :35:17. | :35:18. | |
during her time working The company's chief executive | :35:19. | :35:20. | |
Travis Kalanick responded saying he had not heard these | :35:21. | :35:25. | |
allegations before, and that anyone who thought such behaviour | :35:26. | :35:28. | |
was OK would be fired. This time about our relations and | :35:29. | :35:51. | |
common security for us to pretend that everything is as it used to be. | :35:52. | :35:56. | |
And like you for being so open. This is Donald Tusk. The president | :35:57. | :36:03. | |
of the European Commission, the European Council. | :36:04. | :36:08. | |
The approach of the new administration in Washington. I | :36:09. | :36:14. | |
repaid our guests by offering honesty in my assessment of the | :36:15. | :36:18. | |
situation, I shared our concerns and hopes. Given that I am an incurably | :36:19. | :36:30. | |
pro-American and European with fanatically devoted to transatlantic | :36:31. | :36:36. | |
operation. I asked the vice president directly if he shared my | :36:37. | :36:47. | |
opinion on three key matters. International order, security and | :36:48. | :36:51. | |
the attitude of the new American administration towards the EU. | :36:52. | :37:00. | |
Firstly, I expressed my belief that maintaining order based on the rules | :37:01. | :37:05. | |
of international law where brute force do not determine everything, | :37:06. | :37:13. | |
in the interests of the West. And that maintaining that order can only | :37:14. | :37:20. | |
be enforced through a common mutually supportive and decisive | :37:21. | :37:26. | |
policy of the whole of the Western community. And the millions of | :37:27. | :37:33. | |
people around the world, their predicted gritty and stability of | :37:34. | :37:38. | |
our approach provides a guarantee of at the very least hope that chaos, | :37:39. | :37:45. | |
violence and arrogance will not triumph in a global dimension. | :37:46. | :37:51. | |
Referring to some statements made in Munich just two days ago, I would | :37:52. | :37:59. | |
like to say clearly that the reports of the death of the West have been | :38:00. | :38:07. | |
greatly exaggerated. We will leave Donald Tusk there, we | :38:08. | :38:12. | |
are awaiting Mike Pence the American vice president. | :38:13. | :38:15. | |
Iraqi government forces are still advancing towards so-called | :38:16. | :38:17. | |
Mosul is a key territory for IS, it's also Iraq's second city. | :38:18. | :38:21. | |
And if the country is to function again as a nation, then | :38:22. | :38:24. | |
the recapture of Mosul is a vital key to that happening. | :38:25. | :38:31. | |
The east has been taken back, and now another big offensive | :38:32. | :38:34. | |
Our Middle East correspondent Quentin Somerville has this update | :38:35. | :38:38. | |
on the progress made on the assault of the city. | :38:39. | :38:40. | |
In record time, Iraq's Federal Police have made it | :38:41. | :38:43. | |
That's the south-east of the city you can see there. | :38:44. | :38:48. | |
And the River Tigris just in the foreground. | :38:49. | :38:53. | |
It really was a very fast assault to get here. | :38:54. | :38:58. | |
And now, behind me, perhaps if we move the camera over there, | :38:59. | :39:04. | |
you might just be able to pick out the helicopter, the gun ship | :39:05. | :39:07. | |
which is launching an attack against the town of Abu Saif. | :39:08. | :39:10. | |
That's a very important town, because all that lies | :39:11. | :39:14. | |
between the federal police and Mosul is that town, and it's | :39:15. | :39:16. | |
All morning we've watched these helicopters attacking the town. | :39:17. | :39:24. | |
The Iraqi police have fired their own home-made rockets | :39:25. | :39:26. | |
You can hear the helicopters firing again, you can't quite see it. | :39:27. | :39:38. | |
Just beyond that town, two miles or so, is Mosul's airport. | :39:39. | :39:51. | |
That airport is mostly of symbolic value because the Islamic State long | :39:52. | :39:54. | |
ago destroyed the runways and terminal buildings. | :39:55. | :39:55. | |
But taking that would be very important because it | :39:56. | :39:57. | |
And after that, they would be in Mosul. | :39:58. | :40:08. | |
There are around three-quarters of a million people living there, | :40:09. | :40:10. | |
with reports of shortages of food and water. | :40:11. | :40:13. | |
More than 200,000 civilians have fled the violence, | :40:14. | :40:17. | |
and there are several large camps on the outskirts of the city | :40:18. | :40:20. | |
Let's talk to Gareth Browne, a journalist who's been | :40:21. | :40:23. | |
Dr Bernardita Gaspar from the International Medical Corps | :40:24. | :40:27. | |
who has been making video diaries for this programme about the work | :40:28. | :40:30. | |
And Jumana Mumtaz who is a journalist from Mosul who has | :40:31. | :40:41. | |
Gareth, I hope you can hear me, what is the nature of the fighting | :40:42. | :40:53. | |
between Iraqi troops and Islamic State fighters? | :40:54. | :41:00. | |
I have been watching fighting in the town all morning and it has been | :41:01. | :41:06. | |
pretty intense. The Iraqi army Corps has the advantage, the US led | :41:07. | :41:12. | |
coalition providing significant artillery and armoured vehicle is. | :41:13. | :41:15. | |
But the Islamic State are still putting up a very strong fight. We | :41:16. | :41:22. | |
heard about a David and girl I battle. The fighting this morning | :41:23. | :41:31. | |
has been very intense -- David and Goliath battle. | :41:32. | :41:39. | |
With the coalition forces and Iraqi troops themselves, is it inevitable | :41:40. | :41:44. | |
they will retake the west of the city in the coming days? | :41:45. | :41:50. | |
A lot of people do think it is inevitable but the reality is the | :41:51. | :41:56. | |
challenges, at what cost will that victory come for the Iraqi | :41:57. | :42:02. | |
Government? We are talking about casualties, the west of Mosul is | :42:03. | :42:07. | |
densely populated. There is a very high risk we could see significant | :42:08. | :42:14. | |
numbers of civilian casualties. We had to look at the cost to the Iraqi | :42:15. | :42:22. | |
military. There are very as other political and sectarian factors. | :42:23. | :42:31. | |
Like you. Caroline. -- thank you. Many thousands of people living in | :42:32. | :42:36. | |
those all, many have fled. Those who have been left there but who do want | :42:37. | :42:41. | |
to escape, how can you help them? It is extremely difficult and we are | :42:42. | :42:46. | |
worried about the humanitarian situation in western Mosul. Families | :42:47. | :42:52. | |
have reported serious shortages of food, fuel, water, they are burning | :42:53. | :42:58. | |
furniture to stay warm, many shops have closed, prices have skyrocketed | :42:59. | :43:02. | |
and families are finding it very hard to get food to eat. This is | :43:03. | :43:06. | |
only the beginning of the offensive, we have no idea how long it will | :43:07. | :43:15. | |
continue and the longer it does, the harder conditions will be. Looking | :43:16. | :43:17. | |
at two scenarios, one is the possibility of a large mass | :43:18. | :43:21. | |
displacement, families will leave. The other could be that families | :43:22. | :43:26. | |
simply cannot get out, they are trapped, they have no way out. We | :43:27. | :43:30. | |
need to have discussions with the Government about getting help into | :43:31. | :43:35. | |
these places for the villains who could be tracked the many months. | :43:36. | :43:40. | |
You have relatives, your aunt is in Western Mosul. Are you able to speak | :43:41. | :43:47. | |
to her, what does she tell you about conditions, what is she expecting? | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
Yes, I am trying to speak to her from time to time, maybe once a | :43:52. | :43:59. | |
week. That is because of the weak connections between us, there is no | :44:00. | :44:05. | |
ability to connect to them. But I know they are facing hunger, their | :44:06. | :44:15. | |
education, clinics, hospitals have shut because Isis controls them, | :44:16. | :44:21. | |
they do not allow people to take medication. There are no doctors or | :44:22. | :44:33. | |
nurses at the hospitals. The most important thing for families is they | :44:34. | :44:40. | |
are facing hunger, especially for the children, they have nothing to | :44:41. | :44:44. | |
eat. I spoke with my cousin and she told me that her dream now is only | :44:45. | :44:53. | |
to eat bread. This is very sorry news. They are waiting for the | :44:54. | :44:59. | |
military troops to enter and secure them. | :45:00. | :45:04. | |
That is a very distressing situation, I S stopping people | :45:05. | :45:07. | |
taking medicines, and clearly hunger is a huge issue. | :45:08. | :45:14. | |
You are in Mosul a few weeks ago, it is very cold. You have been working | :45:15. | :45:19. | |
in the refugee camps. What are the conditions like for the civilians | :45:20. | :45:22. | |
who do manage to escape to those camps? | :45:23. | :45:29. | |
adjust It's very cold. So the camps where the tents are, don't really | :45:30. | :45:39. | |
afford that much shelter. We see children, pregnant women and people | :45:40. | :45:43. | |
with disabilities and the elderly who are quite affected. Some have | :45:44. | :45:52. | |
suffered from hypothermia and also the most common more bidity that we | :45:53. | :45:58. | |
have seen so far is respiratory infections. This is because of the | :45:59. | :46:02. | |
overcrowding as well where infection is passed on from one person to the | :46:03. | :46:13. | |
other. It is also concerning that while actors, humanitarian actors, | :46:14. | :46:17. | |
as well as the Government tries to cover the needs, it's just too much. | :46:18. | :46:24. | |
That's where we are right now. OK. Well, thank you very much for your | :46:25. | :46:27. | |
time this morning. Obviously, we will continue to report on what | :46:28. | :46:32. | |
happens to Mosul and the people who live there at the moment over the | :46:33. | :46:33. | |
coming days. Angelina Jolie says she hopes her | :46:34. | :46:39. | |
new film about Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge will help teach | :46:40. | :46:42. | |
the world about the First They Killed My Father | :46:43. | :46:44. | |
is based on the childhood experiences of Cambodian Human | :46:45. | :46:54. | |
Rights activist Loung Ung Khmer Rouge troops, led by former | :46:55. | :46:56. | |
Prime Minister Pol Pot, killed up to two million | :46:57. | :47:04. | |
Cambodians between 1975 and 1979 through execution, | :47:05. | :47:06. | |
starvation and overwork. Angelina Jolie adopted her first | :47:07. | :47:09. | |
child Maddox from an orphanage in Cambodia's western province back | :47:10. | :47:14. | |
in 2002 and she has been given In this exclusive interview, | :47:15. | :47:16. | |
Angelina Jolie has also spoken for the first time about her highly | :47:17. | :47:21. | |
publicised split from Brad Pitt. She has been talking | :47:22. | :47:25. | |
to our reporter Yalda Hakim. I'm not here because I'm a director | :47:26. | :47:27. | |
who wanted to make a movie. I'm here because 17 years ago I came | :47:28. | :47:32. | |
to this country and fell in love with its people and learned | :47:33. | :47:36. | |
about its history and in doing so realised how little I actually | :47:37. | :47:39. | |
knew, in my early 20s, about the world so this | :47:40. | :47:43. | |
country for me has been... Becoming a Cambodian | :47:44. | :47:48. | |
family changed my life. So there was never a plan | :47:49. | :48:00. | |
to make this movie. It's just that I became a film-maker | :48:01. | :48:02. | |
and one day I thought, what story do I feel is really | :48:03. | :48:07. | |
important to tell? And I felt that this war that | :48:08. | :48:12. | |
happened 40 years ago and what happened to these people | :48:13. | :48:15. | |
was not properly understood. And not just for the world, | :48:16. | :48:20. | |
but for the people of the country. I felt that I wanted them to be able | :48:21. | :48:26. | |
to reflect on it in a way Do you think that this | :48:27. | :48:29. | |
nation is ready for that? When many people spoke about this, | :48:30. | :48:38. | |
15-20 years ago, since it happened, there were many people denying | :48:39. | :48:59. | |
or saying it wasn't as bad. Or trying, of course, | :49:00. | :49:02. | |
many people want to forget, It's interesting that you say | :49:03. | :49:04. | |
that this is a country which is very much part | :49:05. | :49:15. | |
of your own personal journey. Do you think that in many ways | :49:16. | :49:18. | |
you have come full circle? You know, your humanitarian work | :49:19. | :49:21. | |
started here, you became a mother here, that perhaps this is some sort | :49:22. | :49:23. | |
of crossroads for you and Yeah. | :49:24. | :49:26. | |
Yeah. I'll always be very grateful to this | :49:27. | :49:31. | |
country and I hope... I hope I've given back | :49:32. | :49:38. | |
as much as it has given me. I don't think I ever could give | :49:39. | :49:42. | |
back as much as this You wrote a New York Time piece | :49:43. | :49:44. | |
a few weeks ago and you spoke about having a truly | :49:45. | :49:58. | |
international family, you said that the refugee policy | :49:59. | :49:59. | |
should be about fact, not fear. You also said that we should not be | :50:00. | :50:02. | |
departing from our values. Can you tell me what | :50:03. | :50:05. | |
you meant by that? It's funny, isn't it, | :50:06. | :50:07. | |
some questions seem so obvious. It's these things that we talk | :50:08. | :50:13. | |
about and we hear them I don't separate people | :50:14. | :50:15. | |
by race, colour, religion. And if I do it's because I celebrate | :50:16. | :50:23. | |
the diversity in the world. Are you concerned about | :50:24. | :50:32. | |
the Trump worldview? Are you worried for the world | :50:33. | :50:35. | |
and your children? I think that the American people | :50:36. | :50:39. | |
are bigger than any president, I suppose I have | :50:40. | :50:44. | |
faith in my country. And in what it is founded | :50:45. | :50:56. | |
on and the values we hold dear. And I believe that many | :50:57. | :51:06. | |
of the things that we're hearing that we feel | :51:07. | :51:09. | |
are based on a sense of spreading fear or hate or dividing people | :51:10. | :51:11. | |
by race or judgment, Am I afraid? | :51:12. | :51:18. | |
I am concerned. I am thoughtful, but I have faith | :51:19. | :51:27. | |
in the citizens of my country, to speak up at this time and I think | :51:28. | :51:31. | |
we're going to learn a lot about what the people of America | :51:32. | :51:36. | |
feel it is to be American and what we want to represent | :51:37. | :51:40. | |
and what we hold dear. And I believe that will come forward | :51:41. | :51:44. | |
in force as we have been saying. But we are seeing this rise with | :51:45. | :51:47. | |
populist leaders around the world. Do you think it's creating | :51:48. | :51:52. | |
a more intolerant society? And we should know | :51:53. | :51:54. | |
better to fall for it. The only thing I can do | :51:55. | :52:02. | |
is use my voice and encourage others and raise my children to know right | :52:03. | :52:12. | |
or wrong and to have a broader To embrace their diversity | :52:13. | :52:16. | |
and other people's. I think that's all we can do now, | :52:17. | :52:18. | |
is each and every person, each one of your listeners, | :52:19. | :52:26. | |
we all just have to be If not now, more than ever, | :52:27. | :52:29. | |
we really have to rise up And we know it, we know | :52:30. | :52:35. | |
what's right or wrong. If I can get back to your film, | :52:36. | :52:45. | |
it's about family. I understand this is | :52:46. | :52:48. | |
a very sensitive issue. We know that an incident occurred | :52:49. | :52:52. | |
which led to your separation. We also know you have not | :52:53. | :52:54. | |
said anything about this I don't want to say very much | :52:55. | :52:57. | |
about that, except to say And we are a family and we will | :52:58. | :53:14. | |
always be a family and we will get through this time and hopefully be | :53:15. | :53:23. | |
a stronger family for it. Many many people find | :53:24. | :53:27. | |
themselves in this situation. My family, we've all been | :53:28. | :53:42. | |
through a difficult time. My focus is my children, | :53:43. | :53:47. | |
our children. And my focus is finding | :53:48. | :53:53. | |
this way through. And as I said, we are | :53:54. | :54:05. | |
and forever will be a family. I'm coping with finding a way | :54:06. | :54:09. | |
through to make sure that this somehow makes us | :54:10. | :54:14. | |
stronger and closer. This film is a combination | :54:15. | :54:16. | |
of passions. Film-making as an art, | :54:17. | :54:18. | |
your humanitarian work. In say, five years' time, where | :54:19. | :54:27. | |
would you like to see yourself? You have all teenagers | :54:28. | :54:30. | |
at that stage. Yeah in five years' time, | :54:31. | :54:37. | |
I would like to be travelling around the world, visiting my children, | :54:38. | :54:47. | |
hoping they are happy And I imagine in many | :54:48. | :54:50. | |
different parts of the world. Everything I do, I hope that | :54:51. | :54:53. | |
I represent something and I represent the right | :54:54. | :55:02. | |
things to my children. And I give them the right sense | :55:03. | :55:04. | |
of what they are capable of and the world as it | :55:05. | :55:07. | |
should be seen. Not through the prism of Hollywood | :55:08. | :55:11. | |
or through a certain kind of life. But really take them into the world | :55:12. | :55:17. | |
where they have a good sense What do you really want to do | :55:18. | :55:20. | |
when you wake up first Right now I'm going through | :55:21. | :55:24. | |
a moment where there's just Two hamsters, two dogs and two | :55:25. | :55:36. | |
children at the moment. So, it's wonderful, but, yeah, | :55:37. | :55:46. | |
usually I just wake up, trying to figure out who's | :55:47. | :55:48. | |
going to get the dog out, who's going to start the pancakes, | :55:49. | :55:51. | |
did anybody brush their teeth? A sometimes emotional Angelina Jolie | :55:52. | :55:59. | |
talking to our reporter. Mike Pence has been speaking to | :56:00. | :56:10. | |
Brussels along with the EU president Donald Tusk. Mike Pence said that | :56:11. | :56:13. | |
Europe and the US must be united in the face of threats. Europe's losses | :56:14. | :56:20. | |
at the hands of terrorists are felt equally in the States and he urged | :56:21. | :56:26. | |
more co-operation. Earlier this morning David BA deal | :56:27. | :56:32. | |
told us about his father's dementia. I said sorry has he got a disease or | :56:33. | :56:37. | |
have you just met him? My dad was always sweary and aggressive and | :56:38. | :56:41. | |
always one of those blokes who can express himself in a way, he was a | :56:42. | :56:46. | |
very intelligent, but can only express himself through quite | :56:47. | :56:52. | |
emotional banter. Julie got in touch. Her dad has this disease. | :56:53. | :56:58. | |
What is it like looking after him? It is wearing on the family. | :56:59. | :57:03. | |
Particularly for my mother. She was hoping they would spend this time | :57:04. | :57:07. | |
travelling the world, retiring together, but that's been taken | :57:08. | :57:11. | |
away. She had to have him put in a care home now where he is very well | :57:12. | :57:16. | |
looked after, just because she can't, obviously physically cope | :57:17. | :57:19. | |
with it because he is a big man, but she goes to see him every single day | :57:20. | :57:24. | |
and feeds him. So, yeah, I mean obviously for myself, it means that | :57:25. | :57:29. | |
he isn't aware of the fact that I've had a baby. He isn't aware of the | :57:30. | :57:33. | |
fact of who I am. Really? That's upsetting. So he doesn't know he has | :57:34. | :57:39. | |
a new granddaughter? No, he is not aware of who anyone is at the moment | :57:40. | :57:42. | |
really. He lost all communication skills and all sort of recognition | :57:43. | :57:48. | |
of anything really. He is at a similar development age as my | :57:49. | :57:51. | |
daughter really. We laugh about it, but it's not funny. How old is he? | :57:52. | :57:59. | |
He is 69 and he was diagnosed in his mid-50s. Diagnosed actually at an | :58:00. | :58:05. | |
early age? Yes, yeah, very early. We feel like we have been robbed | :58:06. | :58:09. | |
really. It's quite a sad story. Well, thank you very much. I wish | :58:10. | :58:14. | |
you all the best with your new baby as well. Thank you. | :58:15. | :58:31. | |
Nawal El Saadawi, the world-renowned Egyptian author | :58:32. | :58:40. | |
A fearless feminist facing a world in turmoil. | :58:41. | :58:45. |