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What a cock-up. This is not a joke. I'm afraid they read the wrong

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thing. Moonlight, best picture. It really was incredible. Envelope

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gate, we will have more with all the academy award winners and that

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mistake. The scandal of young British

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children being sent overseas during the 50s and 60s

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where they were abused in institutions is the first subject

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of the sex abuse inquiry that David Hill was sent

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from the UK to Australia. He was nine years old. I thought the

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idea of being flogged in the middle of the night with a sadistic cottage

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mother with an ironing board was the norm. If this inquiry is capable of

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opening some of that truth, this is a good thing.

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Cash for some schools in England looks likely to be tighter than even

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according to head teachers who are warning of bigger class

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The government says school funding is now

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We are going to talk late in the programme about disability benefits,

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in particular personal independence payments, and whether they should go

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to, quote, really disabled people, not those taking pills at home.

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Those are the words of one Conservative MP who is being urged

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to apologise. Norman Smith will look in detail for you at the further

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cuts planned at what it might mean for you. Do get in touch about those

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stories today. If you are texting you will be charged at the standard

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network rate. This year's Oscars ceremony has

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ended in farce, after the wrong film The team behind musical

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La La Land had already started their acceptance speeches

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when the mistake was discovered. It was one of the film's producers

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who then said the award should One of the award's presenters,

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Warren Beatty, was handed David Willis looks

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back at the night. I still have a lot of growing

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and learning and work to do and this guy is a really beautiful symbol

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to continue on that journey and I am For the star of La La Land,

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Emma Stone, it was a Hollywood ending, named best actress

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for her role on one of the most That just left the big award

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of the night, best film. La La Land's producers were busy

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with their acceptance speeches but look at the man

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with the headphones on at the back. Frantically trying to

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clear the stage and take the best picture Oscar away

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from La La Land and give it to those whose film had actually won,

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the producers of Moonlight. La La Land producer Jordan Horowitz

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gallantly handed the Oscar over It was left to an embarrassed

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Warren Beatty to try to explain I opened the envelope and it said

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Emma Stone, La La Land. That's why I took such a long

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look at Faye and at you. Moonlight, the arthouse underdog,

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the drama of a gay black man growing up in Miami, was dwarfed

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by La La Land in terms of nominations but it ended

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triumphant in the most Very clearly, very clearly,

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even in my dreams this could not be true but to hell with dreams,

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I'm done with it Academy Award organisers

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are still trying to work out exactly what went wrong on a night like no

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other at the Oscars. That was the host, Jimmy Kimmel,

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saying he blamed himself for it. Let's go live to the red carpet

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outside the Vanity fair party. We can see Emma Stone, who won best

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actress for her performance in La La Land. She had an amazing night. She

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was on stage when she thought the film had also won best picture.

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James Cook, looking fantastic in his kilt, is on the green and white

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striped carpet, to match your kilt. Tell us what happened. Yes, I

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arranged that! Well, she is taking her moment in the sun, Emma Stone.

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She has got an Oscar. But her film does not have the best picture Oscar

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and it was the most extraordinary and most bizarre moment, the

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strangest plot twists you have ever seen. The producers were on the

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stage and they were well into their speeches before it became apparent

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that something was wrong. There was a certain sense of a frisson that

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there might be something amiss to begin with because there was a big

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delay before the name was read out. Nonetheless eventually it became

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clear that Moonlight had won. One of the producers of La La Land had the

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unenviable task of announcing this to the world and holding up the card

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that said Moonlight. And eventually the producers of Moonlight came on

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stage to accept their award. We have been speaking to the director, Barry

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Jenkins, tonight. He came down here. He won. At the end of the day, they

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won, and that was all that mattered to them for best picture. What an

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amazing evening. Was it as simple as somebody handing the wrong envelope

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to Warren Beatty? It seems that was the case. The envelope that was

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handed over was a second envelope containing a duplicate copy of the

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previous award. As I understand it, they always do have another one just

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in case. The previous award had been Emma Stone. When the envelope was

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opened, I suppose if you glance down at it, that explains the boards, and

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it did say La La Land on it somewhere. It is not entirely clear

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but that seems to be what happened. That is where it went wrong. Is

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there any chance of grabbing a word with Emma Stone? Is she heading away

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from you or towards you? No! Are you kidding me? She breezed up the

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carpet on the other side and she has gone into the party and she stops

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were nobody and she was making it very clear she wasn't going to stop.

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You get a sense of who will stop and who will not and sometimes you can

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face them back -- fish them back. If we could talk to her, we would! I

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know! We will have a half-hour Oscars special from 9:30am until ten

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o'clock where we bring you all the winners and we will discuss in more

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detail the films that won. La La Land did get six Oscars but that is

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overshadowed by that horrendous mistake.

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Joanna Gosling is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

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The independent inquiry into child sexual abuse will hold its first

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public hearings today, more than two and a half

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years after it was set up by the government.

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It will begin by examining the mistreatment of British children

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in care or from poor families who were sent to Australia in the

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The inquiry will be told that the scale of abuse

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they suffered was much wider than previously thought.

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Our home affairs correspondent Tom Symonds is at the inquiry

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The inquiry will be told that the scale of abuse

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they suffered was much wider than previously thought.

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Our home affairs correspondent tom symonds is at the inquiry

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This is just the start of it. What will it be focusing on? There are 13

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different topics that the inquiry will be focusing on and this is one

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of those topics, part of it, which gives you an idea of the scale of

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this. In a nondescript building behind me they will be taking

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evidence to date from those involved in the issue of child migration. Up

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until 1974, children from poor families were sent without their

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parents to New Zealand, Australia and southern Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe,

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for what they were told would be a better life. But in particular in

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Australia in the post-war leers they experienced physical and sexual

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abuse. This inquiry will be looking at the sexual abuse and the scale of

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it. There have been more disclosures from people as they have grown older

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in their lives and felt more able to talk about what happened to them.

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And indeed what cover up there was, if there was one of those. There has

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been an allegation that in the 1950s a lot of this was known about but

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not much was done. And whether there was abuse in the British games

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before these children left the UK. Thank you.

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The NHS has mislaid more than half a million items of patients'

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confidential medical correspondence, including treatment plans

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The documents, sent between GPs and hospitals over a period

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of five years, did not reach their recipients

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because they were mistakenly stored in a warehouse by private company

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A woman married to a British man for 27 years has been

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Irene Clennell was being held in a Scottish detention centre,

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but told the BBC she has been sent back to her country

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She had been living near Durham with her husband,

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It's thought that periods spent abroad caring for her parents

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The Home Office said it does not comment on individual cases.

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The government is facing calls from Conservative MPs to scrap

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plans to limit access to a key disability benefit.

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It's thought changes to the rules on who qualifies for

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the personal independence payment could affect around 160,000 people.

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It comes as a key aide to Theresa May said

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were needed to roll back the bizarre decisions of tribunals.

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Head teachers and school governors are calling on the Chancellor

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to make schools a priority in the budget.

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The National Association of Head Teachers and the National

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Association of Governors have written an open letter

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to Philip Hammond to say that they're being forced to make

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Downing Street has dismissed suggestions that Theresa May

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will announce that the end of free movement for new EU migrants

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The Daily Telegraph is reporting that the cut-off date

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could be the 15th of March, once the Government's Article 50

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Anyone arriving in the UK after that point would no longer

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have the automatic right to stay in the UK permanently.

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The BBC has ordered an investigation into TV licence collectors

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following reports that they're deliberately targeting vulnerable

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The Daily Mail claims enforcement officers,

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who are employed by the private company Capita, are ordered to catch

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28 evaders every week and promised financial incentives for hitting

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The mobile phone company Nokia is bringing back

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one of its most famous models, the 3310.

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The company has struggled to compete in the smartphone era,

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but it hopes there'll be a demand for a simple phone with a battery

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The handset was first launched in 2000,

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That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

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Thank you. There are some very amusing tweets after what happened

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at the Oscars, as you would expect. It is being called envelope gate.

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This isn't particularly amusing, but this one says this is how you get

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people to talk about the dead, boring event. This one, good grief!

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This one, Emma Stone was the true star. And this one, I feel sorry for

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Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway but what a hospital pass. Warren Beatty

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and the envelope to Fay Dunaway and thought I don't know what is going

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on so I will give it to her! Time for the sport now. Jessica is in

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Salford. Manchester United are celebrating winning their first

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silverware. Yes, first trophy on the books for them and the first trophy

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for Jose Mourinho and he has written his name into history actually

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because he has become the first Manchester United manager in their

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history to win a trophy in the first season. Southampton might be a bit

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disappointed because they played well. Much of the game they were on

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top but they had this goal disallowed early on in the first

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half. Then of course Ibrahimovic put Manchester United 1-0 up. After the

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break, Southampton brought it back to 2-2 but who got the winner? Of

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course Zlatan Ibrahimovic. He has been a vital part of Manchester

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United's season. To the point that the manager, Jose Mourinho, has

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called on the fans to help him to stay. I don't beg for players. But

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if needed, I think maybe United fans can go to the door of his house and

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stay there and stay there all night! It is needed. He will go for sure.

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We're also going to be talking about the Six Nations. Don't know if you

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saw this. At the England head coach Eddie Jones was annoyed at Italy.

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England won the match but the way they went about its divided opinion.

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Some people say the tactics were innovative and others say it ruined

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the game. Essentially they chose not to compete at the breakdown, which

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allowed them to step into the England line without going offside.

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The England players here were bamboozled, even the captain, Dylan

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Hartley. He asked the clarification from the referee. At one point

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England were 10-5 down at half-time. England looked on course for a

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famous unexpected victory at Twickenham, but five tries in the

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second half got England the win and they won 36-15. This is what Eddie

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Jones had to say and he is pretty critical. It wasn't rugby. Let's

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face the facts. You have got to have an offside line to play the game.

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Italy was smart and congratulations to their coaching staff and the

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players. They executed that plan brilliantly but it wasn't rugby. If

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I was the BBC I would be asking the RFU for their money back because it

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wasn't a rugby game. We should go out and train them in rugby. Say

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what you really think! Thank you. We're going to talk about school

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funding. School funding in England

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is tighter than at any time That's the view of independent

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watchdog the Institute It has looked at education funding

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across the last 30 years and it predicts significant cuts

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in pupil spending. Further education, sixth

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forms and colleges, Well, according to the IFS,

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spending per pupil generally is set It's the biggest drop

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in more than 30 years. In recent times, the big winner has

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been early years education. ?2.3 billion were spent on this

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on 2015, when back in 1990 While pupil funding will have

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risen by 70% by 2020. In further education and sixth

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forms, it hasn't gone The predicted funding cuts have come

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as a concern to teaching unions who were worried about potentially

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larger class sizes, schools having to beg parents for funding,

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and further education course It comes as the Government rolls out

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a new funding formula to try and make it fairer for schools

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in more deprived or rural areas. In a moment we'll be

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asking what the latest figures mean for teachers,

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parents and politicians, but first let's have a look at those

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changes in more detail. Jo is mum to two primary school

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children and founded Fair Funding for all Schools to campaign for more

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education funding across the board. Adrian Kneeshaw is the headteacher

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at Carlton Bolling College He says it's hard work

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balancing his budget. Conservative MP Neil

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Carmichael is here. He's also the chair

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of the Education Select Committee. Luke Sibieta wrote the report from

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the Institute for Fiscal Studies. He says further education has

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been hit the hardest Jo, are you seeing an impact on your

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children's primary school already? Yes, we founded this new national

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parent campaign because parents are very unhappy that the Government

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isn't keeping to the promises they made to parents. What kind of

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impacts are you seeing? Well, in the areas where I am, we're seeing class

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sizes increase. From what to what? Well, the class sizes are at the

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highest level in a decade. It is not supposed to be over 30 in state

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schools? And it is in many of our schools and as parents that's

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unacceptable. I don't think any parent wants to see class sizes

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increasing, parents want to see class sizes deceasing. The report

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confirms what a lot of people are saying is that per pupil funding is

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being cutment we are seeing the biggest cuts to our schools for 30

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years, but the Government is in denial about this and in this

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context they are introducing this new fair funding formula which we

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agree with the principle of, we support the idea of a new national

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funding formula, we agree with the need to address historical

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injustice, but we don't think what is proposed will provide justice to

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anyone because it is in the context of a pot that's already too small to

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sustain our schools. Adrian, tell us about the kind of constraints you

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feel you're facing. How is it impacting your children's education?

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Well, it is not really impacting too much here, but it is challenging. It

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has been for a good few years, we have had various cost pressures,

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national insurance contribution has gone up, introduction of Living

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Wage, apprenticeship, they add pressures on the school. We have had

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to over the last two to three years, in maths and English we have an

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average class size of 15 and we'll retain that. Staff in areas where

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are deemed non critical had to go unfortunately. What's non critical

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area? Administration. At one time we had 14 people in the admin team and

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now we're down to six or seven. OK? We have the resources where it

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brings the results for the students which in the classroom so the last

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area I would go to compromise would be increasing class sizes. Let me

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bring in Luke. You wrote the report. You have no axe to grind. Some

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things appear to be contradictory, maybe you can explain them. You say

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funding per pupil st going to fall 6.5% by 2020. The Government says

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spending is higher in real terms by 70%. So, well, to start with,

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they're both true. So the cuts to school spending come on the back of

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a very significant increase in school spending over the 2000s and a

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bit of an increase in the last Parliament. Spending per head is 70%

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higher than it was in 1990, but the schools are making the first real

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terms cuts they have this had to make in 20 years. I imagine there

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are a few headteachers around today who are going back and trying to

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find cuts in their budget. So, what falling is the amount of money being

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spent per pupil? Yes. Because the numbers of children is going up? So

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the numbers of children are going up by about an 7%, pupils by 2020 as

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compared with 2015. The spending per pupil that goes into the classroom

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will be frozen in cash terms, if it is ?5,000, it will be ?5,000 per

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pupil in 2020, but they are not providing money for the cost of

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inflation. So the extra national insurance contributions and the

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extra pension contributions and the costs of teacher pay, that's not

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going to schools. Neil Carmichael, do you accept that budgets are

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becoming more stretched for primary school pupils and secondary school

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pupils? Overall the budgets are tight because we've got a deficit of

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?60 billion each year to deal with, so it is true no big promises can be

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made to expand the budget, but within the budget I do think we need

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to be more sensible about the way in which we allocate money, and there

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are two areas which have done well. One is early years in comparison to

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the 1990s is different and better. Why would you, sorry to interrupt,

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Mr Carmichael, as a Conservative MP and chair of the Education Select

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Committee, why would you want to see funding per pupil falling by 2020?

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Well, we don't. Well, then you could make different choices, you don't

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have to spend ?50 billion on HS2 or foreign aid? There are lots of

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different choices we could make. Why that choice? We need to spend more

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on education. I'll tell you why. One reason is we have a serious shortage

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of skills in our economy. If we leave the European Union, which we

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intend to do... It seems utterly bizarre, doesn't it? I think the key

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thing is making sure that we spend the money on the right areas. I

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could think of a few. I've talked about already early years, but let's

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look at the free school situation for example. The NAO, over leading

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organisation, has pointed out that we're spending a huge amount of

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money on building new schools, sometimes according the NAO in the

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wrong place so we need to think about that. That's about making sure

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the money that we have, we spend well and that's clearly a thrust of

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the Education Select Committee. But more important still, is the need to

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deal with two big challenges. One, is the tail of underachievement in

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our primary school sector as identified by Sir Michael Wilshere.

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The former head of Ofsted? It is a serious problem and we have to think

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carefully. That was identified by him last year. Yes, it was. You have

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been in power now for how long? Since 2010? Absolutely. It is not a

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good idea to see spending per pupil fall by 6.5%? We have increased

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expenditure well. But the numbers of pupils have gone up. Sorry, do the

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maths. I don't mean to be rude? You're right. That's why in the

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long-term, we've got to increase expenditure on education. Right. Is

:25:22.:25:24.

Philip Hammond, the Chancellor, going to do that in the Budget which

:25:25.:25:27.

is coming up? I don't think that's going to happen any time soon

:25:28.:25:31.

because as I've already said we've got a ?60 billion deficit, but the

:25:32.:25:35.

warning sign is actually what are we going to do when we leave the

:25:36.:25:38.

European Union and we need to have the skills that we haven't had in

:25:39.:25:41.

the past? Because actually what we've done in the last 30 odd years

:25:42.:25:45.

is getting the skills, get the skills from abroad. Jo, parent, two

:25:46.:25:49.

children in primary school, talk to the Conservative MP. It is late for

:25:50.:25:53.

Neil to say you can't make promises to put more money. You made those

:25:54.:25:59.

promises in your manifesto. You made a promise to protect pupil funding

:26:00.:26:03.

and introduce a new pupil funding. The report out today would suggest

:26:04.:26:08.

you haven't. And I think that you made those promises, you must have

:26:09.:26:10.

thought that you would need to provide the funds to be able to

:26:11.:26:13.

deliver them and as parents what we're saying is please would you now

:26:14.:26:20.

do that because we're not happy with the impact of the cuts to our

:26:21.:26:24.

schools. I haven't read the whole of it, but we've got inflation now and

:26:25.:26:29.

that's having a huge impact on our school budgets. As Adrian pointed

:26:30.:26:34.

out, he is having to think about pensions and other costs like, the

:26:35.:26:38.

Living Wage. All of these are feeding into the system so we have

:26:39.:26:43.

do recalibrate it. All introduced by a Conservative Government?

:26:44.:26:46.

Absolutely. You knew that was coming down the line. Well, who wants to

:26:47.:26:51.

cement in poverty Living Wage is an excellent idea... No one is arguing

:26:52.:26:55.

against the Living Wage, I don't think... No, good. But you knew that

:26:56.:26:59.

was coming so therefore you have to address that with the funding for

:27:00.:27:02.

schools in England, surely? Well, what I'm saying is, I don't think

:27:03.:27:09.

that, the next Budget and it's coming soon is going to be

:27:10.:27:11.

particularly good news if we're asking for a big increase in the

:27:12.:27:15.

total budgetment what I do think is within the medium-term and the

:27:16.:27:17.

long-term, we should be campaigning for that and I am as a Conservative

:27:18.:27:24.

member of Parliament, but whilst we are talking about the budget that

:27:25.:27:29.

we've got, we've got to make sure the money goes to the right places

:27:30.:27:34.

and that's something Jo alluded to earlier. The new funding system is

:27:35.:27:38.

about making sure pup approximatelies wherever they are

:27:39.:27:41.

get a fair slice of the cake and there are some aspects of that, new

:27:42.:27:44.

formula funding system which we need to test. OK, I'm going to leave it

:27:45.:27:48.

there. You know you've got loads more to say and we'll return to this

:27:49.:27:52.

issue. Don't worry about that. Thank you for coming on the programme,

:27:53.:27:58.

Neil Carmichael, he is chair of the Education Select Committee, Luke, Jo

:27:59.:28:03.

Yurky, the mum of two primary school children and thank you, Adrian.

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If you're seeing an impact on your school, let me know.

:28:13.:28:16.

Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:28:17.:28:20.

Organisers of the Oscars say they are trying to work out how the

:28:21.:28:28.

ceremony ended in chaos. La La Land was mistakenly named as the winner,

:28:29.:28:33.

but it was discovered that the award should have gone to Moonlight. Price

:28:34.:28:38.

water house coopers apologised saying there was a mix-up with the

:28:39.:28:40.

award envelopes. The independent inquiry into child

:28:41.:28:44.

sexual abuse will hold its first public hearings today,

:28:45.:28:47.

more than two and a half years after it was set

:28:48.:28:49.

up by the government. It will begin by examining

:28:50.:28:51.

the mistreatment of British children in care or from poor families

:28:52.:28:54.

who were sent to Australia in the The inquiry will be told

:28:55.:28:56.

that the scale of abuse they suffered was much wider

:28:57.:29:00.

than previously thought. The NHS has mislaid more than half

:29:01.:29:04.

a million items of patients' confidential medical correspondence,

:29:05.:29:07.

including treatment plans The documents, sent between GPs

:29:08.:29:08.

and hospitals over a period of five years, did not

:29:09.:29:12.

reach their recipients because they were mistakenly stored

:29:13.:29:14.

in a warehouse by private company That's a summary of

:29:15.:29:18.

the latest BBC News. Good morning. I'm looking at social

:29:19.:29:39.

media on the Oscars. There is plenty of it!

:29:40.:29:46.

An anonymous e-mail here, "The Oscars, what a farce." Dave says,

:29:47.:29:52.

"Oscars, hilarious. They can't even run their own show." Sean on

:29:53.:29:58.

Facebook, "Please focus on who won, not who didn't." We will bring you a

:29:59.:30:03.

special Oscars programme shortly. Do stay with us.

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Hello and welcome to our Oscars results programme.

:30:22.:30:27.

It's a ceremony that will only ever be remembered for

:30:28.:30:29.

one massive mistake - now known as envelope-gate

:30:30.:30:31.

as the wrong film is named winner of Best Picture.

:30:32.:30:33.

This is not a joke. Moonlight has won best picture.

:30:34.:30:56.

Total confusion on stage and off as the cast and crew of both films

:30:57.:31:03.

But it was Moonlight, about a boy growing up in Miami

:31:04.:31:06.

to a crack-addicted mother, which in the end took

:31:07.:31:08.

Its director Barry Jenkins gave his reaction.

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The last 20 minutes of my life have been insane.

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I don't think my life could be changed any more dramatically.

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The early favourite to win best picture, La La Land,

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But in the end the team behind it won six Oscars including

:31:29.:31:34.

Let's go live to Hollywood and our entertainment correspondent

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Colin Patterson is on the red carpet at the after-show Vanity Fair party.

:31:43.:31:50.

Colin, Colin, Colin what a night. I was listening to you on the radio

:31:51.:31:57.

when it all unfolded. How did it go wrong? There was I having to do

:31:58.:32:02.

radio commentary on the moment and boy, did it go wrong? It couldn't be

:32:03.:32:07.

more wrong! Faye Dunaway reading out La La Land but it all turned into

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Moonlight. So what did go wrong, Colin? It will tell as in a minute.

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PricewaterhouseCoopers have just given as a statement which I can

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read to you. We can seriously apologise to Moonlight, La La Land,

:32:28.:32:31.

Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty and Oscar viewers for the mistake in the

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announcement. The announcers were given the wrong envelope. We are

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investigating how this could have happened. We appreciate the grace

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with which the nominees, the academy, ABC and Jimmy Kimmel

:32:52.:32:55.

handled the situation. I am on the green and white carpet at the Vanity

:32:56.:32:59.

Fair party and it is all anyone here has been talking about. That is an

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impressive cigar, Sir. You are live on the BBC. Thank you. This is a 24

:33:04.:33:09.

carat gold cigar and I thought it only appropriate to bring it out on

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a night like tonight. Guess what, this building is only a building but

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this moment is everything. Why? Moonlight winning? Moonlight

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winning. Here is the thing. I love Emma Stone, I love her. But when

:33:24.:33:31.

Moonlight won, and they corrected, it was this type of moment. It was a

:33:32.:33:37.

24 carat gold cigar moment. I thought that transcended John

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Rhodes, cultures, races, -- genres. And we really get to see what it

:33:48.:33:51.

means to understand the power of view. That is what I am about. Love

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and peace. I thought Moonlight represented that and I thought it

:33:56.:33:59.

deserved it. I was glad to see that moment. Barry Jenkins is a good

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friend of mine. I am so proud of what he is doing. Ali is a good

:34:06.:34:11.

friend. Introduce yourself and then we have got to go. My name is Kobe

:34:12.:34:17.

Randolph. I am Gatsby. I will see you in Cannes. We made history

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tonight. There we go. The Vanity Fair after show party. That is quite

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a cigar! This is envelope-gate. This is the moment it all went wrong.

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Moonlight, you guys won best picture.

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Guys, this is very unfortunate what happened.

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Personally, I blame Steve Harvey for this!

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I opened the envelope and it said Emma Stone, La La Land.

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That's why I took such a long look at Faye and at you,

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I have to say, and it is true, it's not fake, we've been

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on the road with these guys for so long and it was so gracious,

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so generous of them, my love to La La Land,

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Warren Beatty opened the envelope and then he handed it to Faye

:36:09.:36:19.

Dunaway because he didn't know what to do. We will talk about all the

:36:20.:36:21.

winners in just a moment. was at the Oscars ceremony -

:36:22.:36:33.

inside the Dolby Theatre - because her husband

:36:34.:36:41.

Chris Shaw was nominated for an Oscar for documentary

:36:42.:36:49.

Watani: My Homeland. everyone inside the auditorium

:36:50.:36:51.

reacted to the mistake. Everyone looked at each other

:36:52.:36:54.

and wondered was this some kind of prank because it had been quite

:36:55.:36:57.

a fun Oscars programme, And then he just said

:36:58.:37:00.

to the audience, this is not a joke. And everybody around us

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gasped with astonishment because they'd never seen anything

:37:05.:37:06.

like that whatsoever. And then after that it was chaos

:37:07.:37:07.

because there was the cast of La La Land on stage and then

:37:08.:37:10.

the people from Moonlight Nobody really knew

:37:11.:37:13.

what had happened. Then Warren Beatty stepped forward

:37:14.:37:16.

and tried to explain. He said that when he had opened

:37:17.:37:18.

the envelope he had started talking rather slowly and he said this

:37:19.:37:22.

wasn't a joke, it was because he had seen what was written there,

:37:23.:37:24.

which was Emma Stone, Clearly the winner of

:37:25.:37:27.

the previous category. He didn't know quite what to do

:37:28.:37:29.

so he handed the envelope very slowly over to Faye Dunaway

:37:30.:37:32.

and she read out La La Land. If you look back on it,

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not total conviction in her voice when she said it and then

:37:36.:37:38.

they clearly knew something had gone That was one hell of a hospital pass

:37:39.:37:41.

when Warren Beatty handed When everyone was filing out

:37:42.:37:45.

of the Dolby Theatre, obviously that's the only topic

:37:46.:37:51.

of conversation and I gather Ryan Gosling was in the same

:37:52.:37:54.

limo queue as you. I know how strange that sentence

:37:55.:38:01.

is, but he really was. He was waiting for the limo

:38:02.:38:04.

at the same time as we were and I saw him on his phone

:38:05.:38:07.

and I have to say his face, completely understandably,

:38:08.:38:10.

looked like thunder. film, everybody thinking

:38:11.:38:14.

you are going to win, you are up on stage,

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your moment of glory and then to have it absolutely

:38:20.:38:22.

snatched away from you. I feel sorry for the Moonlight

:38:23.:38:24.

people, as well, because their moment was to a certain extent

:38:25.:38:29.

spoiled as the Oscar was being snatched from one hand

:38:30.:38:33.

to another and then at the side of that chaotic gathering

:38:34.:38:38.

there was poor Faye Dunaway holding hands with one of the other women

:38:39.:38:40.

on the stage obviously horrified at what she had

:38:41.:38:45.

been a part of, as well. Everybody filing out was saying

:38:46.:38:48.

I have never been to an Oscars Confirmation, if confirmation were

:38:49.:39:05.

needed, Moonlight won the academy award for best picture after that La

:39:06.:39:12.

La Land mix-up. Casey Affleck won best actor.

:39:13.:39:19.

That's for his portrayal of Lee Chandler, the grief stricken Janitor

:39:20.:39:22.

Victory for La La Land, this time for Emma Stone as best actress,

:39:23.:39:27.

who played a young woman desperately looking to make her

:39:28.:39:29.

Mahershala Ali won best supporting actor for his role as a drug dealer

:39:30.:39:33.

in Miami in the best picture Moonlight.

:39:34.:39:35.

He's the first Muslim to win the award.

:39:36.:39:37.

Best supporting actress went to Viola Davis

:39:38.:39:38.

for her role in Fences, playing Rose, the wife

:39:39.:39:40.

of Denzel Washington's character Troy Maxson.

:39:41.:39:42.

Damien Chazelle became the youngest ever to win the best director prize

:39:43.:39:49.

for his work on La La Land and finally

:39:50.:39:51.

OJ: Made in America - the film depicting the rise and fall

:39:52.:39:54.

of OJ Simpson from sporting superstar to being at the centre

:39:55.:39:57.

of the most publicised murder trial in history - that won

:39:58.:40:00.

Film critics Jason Solomons and Gaylene Gould are here to talk

:40:01.:40:03.

Good morning first of all. Has a mistake like that ever happened

:40:04.:40:14.

before? Not like that, not at the climax, not for best picture. There

:40:15.:40:19.

was a rumour that many years ago that the best supporting actress for

:40:20.:40:25.

My Cousin Vinny was the wrong price but it has never been proven and it

:40:26.:40:29.

only came out some time later. But that was never proven. What I don't

:40:30.:40:34.

understand last night, what all those envelopes were doing up there.

:40:35.:40:39.

Red envelopes. It is like a Chinese wedding in there! He has one in the

:40:40.:40:43.

background and Warren Beatty is holding another one and the producer

:40:44.:40:46.

has one and then Oscars galore and I think Warren Beatty has still got

:40:47.:40:51.

one! I don't know what he is doing with it. I don't know how that chaos

:40:52.:40:56.

was allowed to happen. Amazing. What is brilliant, the producer for La La

:40:57.:41:04.

Land, Jordan Horrowitz, not just in, that is a composer, it was very

:41:05.:41:11.

important that it came from him. -- not just in. That transition of

:41:12.:41:16.

power. He was the guy who said it isn't a joke and he handed up the

:41:17.:41:22.

envelope. Did the best film when the best picture? Yes, in my opinion.

:41:23.:41:30.

Give us a brief summary of what it is a bad for those who haven't seen

:41:31.:41:36.

it. It is a tiny film and a complete passion project. Barry Jenkins

:41:37.:41:42.

created this project very much based on their very difficult backgrounds

:41:43.:41:47.

in Miami on a housing project, with crack addicted mothers. They created

:41:48.:41:53.

this piece which was supposed to give a sense of grace to their

:41:54.:41:56.

beginnings and it is one man's journey told through three stages of

:41:57.:42:01.

his life as he comes to terms with his own sexuality and sensuality in

:42:02.:42:05.

this very tough environment. It is beautiful and it is tiny and it is

:42:06.:42:09.

perfectly formed. What did you think, Jason? Did the right film

:42:10.:42:14.

when that award? I think it is a ground-breaking baited to win this

:42:15.:42:19.

award and the lowest budget picture ever to win best picture. $4

:42:20.:42:23.

million, I think, and the numbers change considering the exchange rate

:42:24.:42:33.

and things like that. It is not like Hollywood. It is more like Asian

:42:34.:42:40.

cinema. I was looking at the previous best picture, and I went

:42:41.:42:47.

back to 1969 and Midnight Cowboy to find one that played with cinema so

:42:48.:42:52.

well. On the first all-black cast to win an Oscar. La La Land I loved as

:42:53.:42:56.

well, I have got to say, and they could feel hard done by, but to see

:42:57.:43:01.

them both up that means that Hollywood has a new ways and that

:43:02.:43:04.

wave broke on the stage last night. There is a fresh look in Hollywood

:43:05.:43:08.

and it belongs to the younger generation. La La Land was the

:43:09.:43:13.

favourite to win best picture. It is worth reminding them that 7000

:43:14.:43:18.

academy award members ranked the nine pictures in the category in

:43:19.:43:22.

order of preference. Why didn't La La Land win? This is a perfect

:43:23.:43:32.

ending to the Oscars for me. This Oscars was always about La La Land

:43:33.:43:37.

versus Moonlight. La La Land is a film about Hollywood and the romance

:43:38.:43:42.

of cinema. That is what normally drives the Hollywood machine. But

:43:43.:43:46.

there was a backlash because of the hype around it, I think? Because of

:43:47.:43:51.

that but also it is a very classic piece of cinema. It is very

:43:52.:43:56.

ambitious but also very classic. The followers of Moonlight came from a

:43:57.:44:01.

very different kind of sensibility. There was always a battle between

:44:02.:44:05.

the two audiences and think it is perfect that they both ended up in

:44:06.:44:10.

stage, in a way. There was this handover between them. For me it was

:44:11.:44:16.

like the old school handing over to a voice. I thought that was really

:44:17.:44:20.

significant, symbolic and beautiful. Both these film-makers are very good

:44:21.:44:23.

friends and they totally shared the journey. But it was this new voice

:44:24.:44:29.

in terms of the audience that came into the room last night and I loved

:44:30.:44:33.

that. La La Land was the early favourite and continued to be the

:44:34.:44:38.

favourite. What happened? I saw it in August at its world premiere at

:44:39.:44:41.

the Venice film festival and I fell in love with it. My jaw dropped.

:44:42.:44:46.

Somebody is doing a musical, how exciting. Playing with the old

:44:47.:44:51.

tropes, a freshness with indie actors, and I loved it. Along the

:44:52.:44:55.

way a backlash started to happen and it is very easy to criticise La La

:44:56.:44:58.

Land for being about why people wandering about in LA drinking

:44:59.:45:04.

coffee and having dreams and having first world problems, to use a

:45:05.:45:08.

hashtag. But with no light, it is very difficult to take against it.

:45:09.:45:15.

It is so political and poetic and steering and about a brutal and

:45:16.:45:22.

tough situation. It was important for gay culture, black culture,

:45:23.:45:24.

voices that haven't been heard before and the timing was just right

:45:25.:45:29.

for it. I wake up yesterday morning thinking that Moonlight could do it

:45:30.:45:32.

and I had already filmed in my own ballot and put La La Land and I

:45:33.:45:35.

crossed it out in the last moment and put Moonlight. I thought I was

:45:36.:45:39.

wrong but in the end I won as well so I was excited.

:45:40.:45:44.

What was second on your ballot? La La Land. Let's talk about best

:45:45.:45:53.

Supporting actor, it is Mahershala Ali as the drug dealer. The sort of

:45:54.:46:01.

drug dealer you never saw, showing such tenderliness and fatherliness.

:46:02.:46:07.

How well deserved is his award? This has become a break-out role for an

:46:08.:46:12.

actor who has a long history of doing stellar pieces of work and

:46:13.:46:16.

we'll talk about the Oscars so white thing. None of these awards have

:46:17.:46:20.

come quickly or easily for a lot of this talent. For lots of audiences

:46:21.:46:24.

it might be the first time they have seen Mahershala Ali. They may have

:46:25.:46:31.

seen him in The Hunger Games or House Of Cards. This is an actor who

:46:32.:46:36.

is at the top of his game being recognised. He was in another Best

:46:37.:46:43.

Picture nominee Hidden Figures. That's right. He is someone who the

:46:44.:46:48.

whole industry is becoming more aware of and audiences and he is an

:46:49.:46:52.

incredibly graceful actor. He is a black Muslim and he lends a really

:46:53.:46:56.

important voice at a time like now which is someone, people listen to

:46:57.:46:59.

Mahershala Ali because he is articulate. He's wise and I think we

:47:00.:47:05.

need that voice in the world. In his acceptance speech, he was pretty

:47:06.:47:09.

low-key. He did say wow and then he went on to thank his teachers

:47:10.:47:13.

through acting school who had talked to him about, it's not about you,

:47:14.:47:17.

it's always about the characters. That's right. That's right. There

:47:18.:47:21.

weren't that many speeches about Donald Trump in the end. People kept

:47:22.:47:26.

it more personal. Let's talk about Viola Davis then. Best Supporting

:47:27.:47:31.

Actress. The third time of asking, but now she is the first black

:47:32.:47:40.

actress to have a tomby and emmy and an Oscar? Now she is the supporting

:47:41.:47:46.

actor for Fences. It is a great performance one opposite of Denzel

:47:47.:47:50.

Washington. Different for the camera. People have found the acting

:47:51.:47:54.

in Fences to be a little big compared to the dial down intimacy

:47:55.:48:00.

of Moonlight. I love listening to August Wilson's words. I loved her

:48:01.:48:04.

performance in it as this very strong woman who comes out of the

:48:05.:48:10.

shadow of this very domineering man. No one else cries like her and gets

:48:11.:48:18.

the snot running down her nose! They don't teach that at RADA. What she

:48:19.:48:22.

has done is seized this opportunity because, I mean, in many senses she

:48:23.:48:26.

is the kind of legal role in this film. Well, she sort of ends up

:48:27.:48:32.

overshadowing him. Yes. She would have had a good chance of winning in

:48:33.:48:37.

the main category as well. There is something interesting when you look

:48:38.:48:42.

at the kind of racial categorizations that people get

:48:43.:48:45.

into. The supporting actors you often find are quite diverse, but

:48:46.:48:50.

often the lead actors, it is like a slightly gated community. I kind of

:48:51.:49:00.

feel the same. I think Hidden Figures should have been on the best

:49:01.:49:04.

Lead Actress Role, but I'm interested in the supporting and the

:49:05.:49:09.

lead actors. There were three actresses of colour in that with

:49:10.:49:16.

Naomi Harris as well and in the main competition, it was Natalie Portman.

:49:17.:49:21.

I think Viola Davis is one of the great actresses now, I think, you

:49:22.:49:27.

know, she is almost like a Meryl Streep figure from now on, if she's

:49:28.:49:32.

in a film, you know, she is nailed on for a nomination. She is so good

:49:33.:49:39.

and her speech was so passionate as well, both of those, Mahershala Ali

:49:40.:49:44.

and Viola Davis' acceptance speeches were personal. They seethed with

:49:45.:49:49.

frustration and achievement and by the delivery of their performances

:49:50.:49:53.

you could sense the anger. There was more anger in the dignity. People

:49:54.:49:57.

will ask if those two awards for example are a reaction, a response

:49:58.:50:03.

to last year's Oscars So White controversy, but actually both these

:50:04.:50:07.

films were in production before that, weren't they? That's the whole

:50:08.:50:13.

myth with that whole thing. Suddenly everything has got woke and now they

:50:14.:50:18.

are ticking the right box. We know Viola Davis has been working for

:50:19.:50:22.

years. There is a long history to make a piece of work like that for

:50:23.:50:26.

the screenment however, I think political pressure clearly has a

:50:27.:50:31.

point in raising the questions. And changes in the academy members as

:50:32.:50:34.

well That's right. That's right. I think those academy members. They

:50:35.:50:38.

are exceptional pieces of work. They wouldn't be up there, if they

:50:39.:50:42.

weren't, but I think there is a another seriousness within which

:50:43.:50:46.

that work gets seen and spoken about because there is this conversation

:50:47.:50:49.

that's happening amongst the audience. I think a few years ago a

:50:50.:50:55.

film like Moonlight might have won an indy spirit award, but to go all

:50:56.:50:59.

the way and steal the biggest moment of all that there is that's a sea

:51:00.:51:05.

change in attitude in the voting body to recognise and see that

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through and that's exciting. Moonlight is a film we have never

:51:11.:51:14.

seen before in many ways. You needed people to say, "I'm going to vote

:51:15.:51:17.

for this." It needed to be pushed through. I think Moonlight would

:51:18.:51:21.

have done it on its own. This is a film, we were saying earlier, it is

:51:22.:51:25.

a very, it is a film like America, mainstream America, hasn't really

:51:26.:51:28.

seen before. I think it is because it has this increditble weight and

:51:29.:51:33.

power. I think it would have risen up. I think you're right we might

:51:34.:51:40.

not have spoken about it as much. Voters would have thought twice

:51:41.:51:44.

about the politically mat. It may have changed when Donald Trump came

:51:45.:51:48.

in. That may have changed the vote towards it. People are thinking,

:51:49.:51:53.

"I'm going to make a statement in my vote." Let's talk about Casey

:51:54.:52:02.

Affleck winning Best Actor for Manchester By The Sea, he is a grief

:52:03.:52:07.

stricken January for. He goes back to his hometown which he tried to

:52:08.:52:09.

leave behind for various reasons which are explained in the film to

:52:10.:52:12.

look after his nephew after his brother dies. Is he the right winner

:52:13.:52:19.

in this category? Denzel Washington again. It was a strong performance

:52:20.:52:25.

from Casey Affleck. I found the film mannered in its treatment of

:52:26.:52:31.

realism. He got a screenplay award for the writer as well. I didn't

:52:32.:52:35.

fall in love with this film. I found it very frozen. What about his

:52:36.:52:40.

performance? I found it difficult to warm to that performance. He smiles

:52:41.:52:44.

a bit at the end. It didn't really do it for me. Yeah. I feel the same.

:52:45.:52:55.

I love Kenneth Lonagan's work, but I feel the same. I have seen Casey

:52:56.:52:58.

Affleck do this before. I feel like the film doesn't go far enough its

:52:59.:53:03.

exploration of grief. I think it is very good, the actor is brilliant

:53:04.:53:07.

and I don't think this is his Best Film. Right. Let's talk about Emma

:53:08.:53:15.

Stone winning Best Actress and Damien Chazelle winning Best

:53:16.:53:19.

Director. He is 32 for goodness sake! Emma Stone first of all.

:53:20.:53:25.

Correct winner? I think, Hollywood likes to anoint new stars

:53:26.:53:31.

particularly in the female category. They don't go for the tried and the

:53:32.:53:38.

tested. It's a good thing and it's a bad thing. It means that you're used

:53:39.:53:43.

up a bit quickly by the Hollywood machine. Emma Stone worked her

:53:44.:53:47.

career really well. She worked with Woody Allen for a couple of films

:53:48.:53:51.

and that increased her performance. It is a Woody Allen performance.

:53:52.:53:56.

What's amazing about her, she was crippled with shyness and anxiety as

:53:57.:54:00.

a young girl and a way to get over that was to join an acting class and

:54:01.:54:04.

now look at her. Astonishing, what did you think of the way she

:54:05.:54:09.

performed as Mia in La La Land? I'm on the side of the people who went

:54:10.:54:14.

to see the film and went, "What? Really?" So I'm not, I'm not a great

:54:15.:54:18.

lover of the film. I love the ambition of the film. I love the

:54:19.:54:23.

landscape, I'm a huge fan of musicals. I really like Emma Stone.

:54:24.:54:28.

I think this is a light role. I don't think she was given enough to

:54:29.:54:32.

do actually. The role is quite hard. It is difficult. Particularly with

:54:33.:54:38.

Ryan Gosling's, he lost to Casey Affleck who is doing grief. I think

:54:39.:54:42.

light comedy is hard to play and it is hard to win awards with. I think

:54:43.:54:47.

she is adorable and I hope we will see more of her and in a lot of

:54:48.:54:50.

tougher roles and let's see what she is made of. Best Foreign Language

:54:51.:55:00.

film The Salesman Salesman was the winner. The winner was protesting at

:55:01.:55:11.

Donald Trump's travel ban. A statement was read on his behalf

:55:12.:55:17.

saying, "I'm sorry I'm not with you. My absence is out of respect for my

:55:18.:55:22.

country, Iran and those of other nations what are disrespected by the

:55:23.:55:26.

law that bans immigrants to the US." That was one of the most political

:55:27.:55:29.

statements of the evening. What's the film like? Oh, the film is very

:55:30.:55:37.

good. It was a death of a salesman. He's very good at capturing a sort

:55:38.:55:42.

of area of Iranian society that we have never really seen before.

:55:43.:55:47.

Foreigners don't know about at all. It is a sophisticated middle-class

:55:48.:55:53.

Iran. He does Tehran and its middle classes. It I think he is an

:55:54.:56:03.

excellent film-maker. Thank you both very much.

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Social media was buzzing with news of that Best Picture mistake. Some

:56:13.:56:19.

of the tweets, Billy Crystal tweeted, "He wished election day

:56:20.:56:24.

ended this way." Lots of people drew comparisons with what happened in

:56:25.:56:27.

2015 at the Miss Universe competition. Steve Harvey announced

:56:28.:56:33.

the wrong winner. Miss Universe tweeted maybe they could help.

:56:34.:56:46.

Seth MacFarlane brought it back to politics.

:56:47.:56:50.

An incredible night maybe for the wrong reasons even though it was

:56:51.:56:55.

hilarious to see such incompetence. Thank you for watching this Oscars

:56:56.:56:57.

special. Good morning.

:56:58.:57:11.

Well, we have got quite a mixture of weather today. Our Weather Watchers

:57:12.:57:18.

pictures show that nicely. This one taken in Roybridge. Quite a bit of

:57:19.:57:23.

cloud in Norfolk and windy too. As we head into Greater London, we had

:57:24.:57:27.

a cloudy start. Still cloudy at the moment and we're looking at a

:57:28.:57:31.

showery day. We have got the ex-storm Ewan here. Really just the

:57:32.:57:35.

remnants now. That produced strong winds across the Northern Isles this

:57:36.:57:38.

morning, but it is dragging in colder air and it will remain windy

:57:39.:57:41.

across the south and also the South East. So the cold air coming around

:57:42.:57:46.

that area of low pressure. Filtering through the course of the day, that

:57:47.:57:50.

bit further south. So increasingly, our showers in the south will be

:57:51.:57:54.

wintry especially so with height. This morning, we have got a bit of

:57:55.:57:58.

dry weather across Scotland, but where we have got the showers, some

:57:59.:58:02.

of those are falling as snow in the west. The same too for Northern

:58:03.:58:07.

Ireland. But we've got a plethora of showers crossing England and Wales

:58:08.:58:10.

this morning. Now, for a time, on the hills in Wales and the

:58:11.:58:14.

south-west, they too will be wintry. Into the afternoon, some drier

:58:15.:58:17.

conditions coming in across parts of Scotland, but in the south, we are

:58:18.:58:21.

expecting snow as indeed we are across Northern England. Something

:58:22.:58:23.

to be aware of if you are travelling. Bright skies and showers

:58:24.:58:27.

across Northern Ireland and for England and Wales, there will be a

:58:28.:58:31.

lot of showers crossing again as the cold air cuts in, don't forget some

:58:32.:58:37.

of those will be wintry and some will merge, but some of us will miss

:58:38.:58:40.

them because at the end of the day, they are showers. Through this

:58:41.:58:45.

evening and overnight, we hang on to the showersment still some

:58:46.:58:48.

wintriness in them. There is a greater risk of ice this evening and

:58:49.:58:52.

overnight. The temperatures in towns and cities around about freezing. In

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the rural parts of the UK, you can expect them to be lower than that.

:58:59.:59:01.

Tomorrow, we lose our front from the South East. But we've got ex-storm

:59:02.:59:06.

Ewan, low pressure by then coming in across the north-west. Windy across

:59:07.:59:10.

the south-western flank and that's going to blow in a lot of showers

:59:11.:59:13.

across Northern England and North Wales. Again with height. Some of

:59:14.:59:16.

those will be of snow, possibly at lower levels we could see sleet.

:59:17.:59:20.

Here is the remnants of the front in the north still producing showers,

:59:21.:59:26.

but in between, some brighter skies, but feeling cold, temperatures

:59:27.:59:28.

between seven and nine Celsius. As we move from Tuesday and into

:59:29.:59:32.

Wednesday, well, there goes our system, moving off into the near

:59:33.:59:35.

Continent, a ridge of high pressure builds in behind and then we've got

:59:36.:59:39.

more fronts coming across Southern England. For many of us on

:59:40.:59:42.

Wednesday, it will be a dry day. You might catch the odd shower, but you

:59:43.:59:46.

can see too we've got the rain moving across the south and by then

:59:47.:59:49.

milder conditions into the south, but still pretty cool in the north.

:59:50.:59:58.

It's Monday. I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

:59:59.:00:05.

The independent inquiry into child sex ulg abuse finally holds its

:00:06.:00:14.

first public hearings. I thought the idea of being flogged

:00:15.:00:19.

in the middle of the night by a sadistic drunken cottage mother with

:00:20.:00:25.

an ironing cord was the norm. This this inquiry is capable of opening

:00:26.:00:29.

some of that truth then that's a good thing.

:00:30.:00:33.

And that inquiry begins at 1030 and we'll bring

:00:34.:00:35.

An Oscars moment to rank among the most infamous in history.

:00:36.:00:43.

La La Land was mistakenly named as best picture.

:00:44.:00:45.

But minutes later the honour was given to Moonlight.

:00:46.:01:07.

Thousands of patients are feared to have been harmed after the NHS

:01:08.:01:09.

mislaid more than half a million pieces of confidential

:01:10.:01:12.

medical correspondence, including cancer test results

:01:13.:01:13.

Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:01:14.:01:32.

The independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in England

:01:33.:01:34.

public hearings today, more than two and a half

:01:35.:01:38.

years after it was set up by the government.

:01:39.:01:40.

It will begin by examining the mistreatment of British children

:01:41.:01:42.

in care or from poor families who were sent to Australia in the

:01:43.:01:45.

The inquiry will be told that the scale of abuse

:01:46.:01:49.

they suffered was much wider than previously thought.

:01:50.:01:51.

Organisers of this year's Oscars say they're still trying to work out how

:01:52.:01:54.

the ceremony ended in chaos, after the wrong film

:01:55.:01:56.

The Hollywood musical La La Land was mistakenly

:01:57.:02:00.

revealed as the winner, but during the acceptance speeches

:02:01.:02:04.

it was discovered the award should have gone to Moonlight,

:02:05.:02:06.

which is a drama about a gay black youth coming to terms

:02:07.:02:09.

The firm that counts the votes, PriceWaterhouseCoopers,

:02:10.:02:16.

has apologised, saying there was a mix-up with

:02:17.:02:18.

The NHS has mislaid more than half a million items of patients'

:02:19.:02:26.

confidential medical correspondence, including treatment plans

:02:27.:02:27.

The documents, sent between GPs and hospitals over a period

:02:28.:02:31.

of five years, did not reach their recipients

:02:32.:02:33.

because they were mistakenly stored in a warehouse by private company

:02:34.:02:36.

The government is facing calls from Conservative MPs to scrap

:02:37.:02:44.

plans to limit access to a key disability benefit.

:02:45.:02:47.

It's thought changes to the rules on who qualifies for

:02:48.:02:49.

the personal independence payment could affect around 160,000 people.

:02:50.:02:53.

It comes as a key aide to Theresa May said

:02:54.:02:55.

were needed to roll back the bizarre decisions of tribunals.

:02:56.:03:07.

The mobile phone company Nokia is bringing back

:03:08.:03:09.

one of its most famous models, the 3310.

:03:10.:03:11.

The company has struggled to compete in the smartphone era,

:03:12.:03:13.

but it hopes there'll be a demand for a simple phone with a battery

:03:14.:03:17.

The handset was first launched in 2000,

:03:18.:03:20.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:03:21.:03:25.

Thank you. And thank you to you for your messages on the state of your

:03:26.:03:36.

children's schools. We were talking about this at the start of the

:03:37.:03:39.

programme. Some schools with tightened budgets and others getting

:03:40.:03:42.

more money because of changes in the way the government is funding

:03:43.:03:47.

schools in England. Karen says there are more children in schools which

:03:48.:03:52.

now house children to 18 years of age, so I think the increase is not

:03:53.:03:55.

proportionate to the increasing provision. Matt says how about

:03:56.:03:59.

funding all schoolkids fairly instead of giving some far more than

:04:00.:04:04.

the education budget? And Jonathan says the UK education system is a

:04:05.:04:08.

shambles and a mess and it is only our children who will suffer. I am

:04:09.:04:12.

going to home due to my kids once they have finished primary school.

:04:13.:04:16.

Reyes says I know a lot of school funding is wasted. Schools need to

:04:17.:04:21.

be much more careful in the way they set their budgets. I believe schools

:04:22.:04:27.

could still operate efficiently and effectively on less money and pupils

:04:28.:04:29.

could still reach their full potential of the budget is not

:04:30.:04:34.

wasted. Thank you for those and keep getting in touch. You are very

:04:35.:04:38.

welcome, as you know. Text messages are charged at the standard network

:04:39.:04:43.

rate. Jessica is back now with the sport. Starting with football.

:04:44.:04:46.

Manchester United have won their first piece

:04:47.:04:48.

silverware of the season, clinching the EFL Cup after a 3-2

:04:49.:04:51.

The Saints were the better side for long periods of the game,

:04:52.:04:55.

and in fact they had a goal disallowed early on.

:04:56.:04:57.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic put United 1-0 up.

:04:58.:05:04.

Just after the break, Southampton levelled the game at 2-2

:05:05.:05:06.

Who else but Ibrahimovic to score the winner

:05:07.:05:17.

It's caused manager Jose Mourniho to call for help from the club's

:05:18.:05:22.

fans, to ensure Ibrahimovic stays another season at the club.

:05:23.:05:26.

I don't beg for players but if needed I think maybe United fans can

:05:27.:05:39.

go to the door of his house and stay there, and stay there all night if

:05:40.:05:46.

needed. I think they will go Fish oil. It is a big disappointment of

:05:47.:05:52.

course. Today, it was a quality game.

:05:53.:05:59.

A third hat trick in 9 games for Tottenham striker Harry Kane

:06:00.:06:07.

helped his side to a 4-0 win over Stoke, and move them up to second

:06:08.:06:10.

Kane completed his treble in just 23 minutes in the first half,

:06:11.:06:14.

as Spurs made it 8 wins in a row at White Hart Lane.

:06:15.:06:21.

It's led manager Pochettino to describe the striker

:06:22.:06:23.

England's rugby union head coach Eddie Jones,

:06:24.:06:27.

never shy of speaking his mind, has criticised Italy's

:06:28.:06:29.

tactics against his side in their Six Nations match.

:06:30.:06:31.

Jones says Italy's decision not to compete

:06:32.:06:34.

England were left bamboozled by Italy's approach,

:06:35.:06:39.

as they slumped to 10-5 down at half time.

:06:40.:06:44.

But five second-half tries ensured England were not left horribly

:06:45.:06:48.

17 wins on the bounce for England, but Jones was not impressed.

:06:49.:06:57.

Well, it wasn't rugby. Let's face the facts. You've got to have an

:06:58.:07:05.

offside line to play the game. Italy was smart and congratulations to

:07:06.:07:08.

their coaching staff and the players, they executed that and

:07:09.:07:11.

played brilliantly but it wasn't rugby. If I was a BBC will be asking

:07:12.:07:15.

the RFU for their money back because you haven't had a rugby game. We

:07:16.:07:18.

will have to go outside and train now so you get some proper rugby.

:07:19.:07:26.

European Championship silver medallist and 2012

:07:27.:07:28.

Olympian Roberto Pavoni has retired from swimming.

:07:29.:07:29.

He came second in the 400m individual medley in the 2014

:07:30.:07:32.

European Championships in Berlin, also taking bronze in

:07:33.:07:34.

Pavoni will now take up a career in coaching in the sport.

:07:35.:07:40.

That is all the sport for now and I will be back with the headlines at

:07:41.:07:46.

10:30am. Thank you. Welcome to the programme.

:07:47.:07:52.

The independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in England

:07:53.:07:55.

and Wales is finally about to begin its first

:07:56.:08:02.

public hearings today - in about 20 minutes in fact -

:08:03.:08:04.

two and a half years after it was set up.

:08:05.:08:07.

It is expected to take five years to complete and is a really

:08:08.:08:10.

far-reaching inquiry looking into historic child

:08:11.:08:11.

abuse in institutions like the Catholic Church

:08:12.:08:13.

It begins today with an investigation of the appalling

:08:14.:08:16.

treatment of thousands of British children who were sent to Australia

:08:17.:08:19.

Many were orphans with hopes of a new life.

:08:20.:08:24.

The BBC has been told the inquiry will hear new evidence

:08:25.:08:27.

about the scale of what went on and the claim

:08:28.:08:30.

A key witness in the inquiry will be David Hill, the former head

:08:31.:08:35.

He was sent from Britain to Australia as a child

:08:36.:08:41.

to one of the schools run by the Fairbridge Society,

:08:42.:08:43.

Our correspondent Tom Symonds met him and took him back

:08:44.:08:49.

to the shipping port of Tilbury, where 58 years ago,

:08:50.:08:51.

We arrived here on a bleak April day.

:08:52.:08:58.

And we had never seen anything like it.

:08:59.:09:07.

We had been sold the idea that we were going to the land

:09:08.:09:10.

of milk and honey, that we came from a very poor family,

:09:11.:09:19.

as most of the child migrants did, and up to that point they bought us

:09:20.:09:27.

new wardrobes of clothes, and we were in the state cabin

:09:28.:09:30.

with five-course lunches and six-course dinners.

:09:31.:09:31.

We thought, well, we've signed up for the right scheme.

:09:32.:09:35.

And it wasn't until we reached Sydney that the thud

:09:36.:09:37.

Our lovely wardrobes that we were given here

:09:38.:09:41.

in England were taken from us, and we were issued with hard

:09:42.:09:44.

The kids were all running around midwinter barefoot on the farm.

:09:45.:09:52.

They looked terrible, because the kids cut

:09:53.:09:54.

Those kids would have gone through life with nobody ever putting

:09:55.:10:01.

giving them comfort, and nurturing, and support, and encouragement.

:10:02.:10:07.

They were the most vulnerable, they were the least protected,

:10:08.:10:10.

And lucky of all, most of all, because my mum

:10:11.:10:15.

Those kids never saw their mums again.

:10:16.:10:17.

They thought the idea of being flogged in the middle

:10:18.:10:20.

of the night by a sadistic drunken cottage mother with an ironing

:10:21.:10:22.

What is your estimate of the number of children affected by some

:10:23.:10:28.

I put the figure at over 60% of the kids that went to Fairbridge

:10:29.:10:34.

60%, and I think if you look at the conditions that prevailed

:10:35.:10:42.

in the other child migrant institutions I'd be staggered

:10:43.:10:45.

if the figure isn't equally high, or even higher, in some

:10:46.:10:48.

of the Catholic boys homes in Western Australia.

:10:49.:10:50.

People will say these were different times,

:10:51.:10:52.

we didn't know what we know now about child development,

:10:53.:10:54.

things were not managed well, is that an excuse?

:10:55.:10:57.

If you go back to the 1950s, the British government sent

:10:58.:11:04.

And they report back and the British government,

:11:05.:11:14.

using standards that prevailed in the 1950s, drew up

:11:15.:11:20.

what they called a blacklist and put Fairbridge farm and other child

:11:21.:11:23.

migrant institutions on the blacklist, defined them

:11:24.:11:24.

The British government not only continued to approve

:11:25.:11:31.

children to be sent, but financially

:11:32.:11:34.

I'm surprised how vulnerable it has made me feel.

:11:35.:11:39.

And to happen to the extent that it did.

:11:40.:11:53.

This is an enquiry that has been quite bitterly condemned for failing

:11:54.:11:56.

to do anything in the view of some people for two and a half years.

:11:57.:11:59.

This is the first time it will have public hearings about the subject

:12:00.:12:03.

From my point of view, only good can come of it.

:12:04.:12:09.

It seems to me that the greater the evil, the stronger

:12:10.:12:18.

the conspiracy to keep it a secret and keep it covered up,

:12:19.:12:25.

so if this enquiry is capable of opening some of that truth,

:12:26.:12:28.

It is almost unbelievable, isn't it? We can speak now to Clifford Walsh,

:12:29.:12:42.

who experienced sexual abuse when he was sent from London to live at a

:12:43.:12:47.

Catholic institution in Australia. Margaret Humphreys is also with us,

:12:48.:12:51.

the director of the child migrants trust. She has dedicated her life to

:12:52.:12:55.

reuniting lost migrant children with their families. I know you are about

:12:56.:12:59.

to go into the inquiry, Margaret, so I will talk to you first, if I may?

:13:00.:13:05.

And Clifford I will be with you in a moment. Tell us what work you have

:13:06.:13:15.

done to try to bring these former children back with their families. I

:13:16.:13:18.

would like to state straightaway that these children were not

:13:19.:13:22.

orphans. They had mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters.

:13:23.:13:27.

Over the years that has been part of the myth. They are not orphans. I

:13:28.:13:33.

would like to make that really clear to your viewers. We have spent 30

:13:34.:13:39.

years bringing child migrants home to meet their mothers, their

:13:40.:13:41.

fathers, their families and communities. In the early days, 25

:13:42.:13:48.

or 30 years ago, we used to bring one person home at a time. These

:13:49.:13:54.

were former child migrants, some of whom left here when they were four

:13:55.:14:00.

or five years of age. Over the next few weeks we are going to hear the

:14:01.:14:06.

most horrific stories of their times in these residential institutions

:14:07.:14:15.

overseas. Even with orphans, it seems hard to justify this policy

:14:16.:14:20.

back then. But you are saying they were not orphans. So what on earth

:14:21.:14:31.

was the rationale? I think hopefully the inquiry is going to explore this

:14:32.:14:36.

with people and look at the policy, look at what happened to families,

:14:37.:14:44.

to children, and particularly the emphasis on this really important

:14:45.:14:48.

inquiry. It has taken as 30 years to get this inquiry. Some of those

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questions have got to be answered. I know you have got to go that

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anything I can ask one more question, if I may. -- but I think I

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can ask you one more question. Can you give us examples of the cruelty

:15:06.:15:09.

some of these children were subjected to? Perhaps I can answer

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it best this way. This week we are going to hear from the child

:15:15.:15:18.

migrants. For the first time in the history of child migration. And we

:15:19.:15:22.

have got a long history of treating our children like this. We are going

:15:23.:15:26.

to hear their voices for the first time. And I would just say let's

:15:27.:15:33.

pause and listen to them. Just for a moment. We will get an idea of what

:15:34.:15:36.

happened to them, what happened to their families. It is going to be

:15:37.:15:42.

hard. It is going to be very hard for us to hear it, but we must

:15:43.:15:46.

listen and we must hear it and we must learn the lessons.

:15:47.:15:55.

Clifford Walsh, thank you for joining us from Australia. You're

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welcome. You were told, I think, Clifford, that your parents were

:16:02.:16:04.

dead, but that wasn't true? No, not at all. I had a mother. My father,

:16:05.:16:13.

of course, died in the war. And I went through life thinking that I

:16:14.:16:20.

had no parents and it wasn't until Margaret Humphreys came on the scene

:16:21.:16:24.

that I found out I still had a mother and I finally met her when I

:16:25.:16:27.

was 50. Wow, you were nine then, when you stepped off the ship from

:16:28.:16:32.

London. That's right. What did you think was going on? Well, I was

:16:33.:16:40.

basically looking forward to it because they made all these

:16:41.:16:45.

wonderful promises of how great things were in Australia. I was a

:16:46.:16:50.

bit naive because someone in England said that in Australia there was 100

:16:51.:16:57.

sheep for every person so when we got to the wall at Freemantle, I

:16:58.:17:02.

sort of half hoped I'd see 100 sheep waiting for me, but that didn't

:17:03.:17:10.

materialise. I didn't realise they only outnumbered us 100-1. We were

:17:11.:17:18.

sent to two days quarantine. Until this point, I had every faith in

:17:19.:17:23.

adults, but it quickly diminished after that. After I was flogged on

:17:24.:17:31.

the second day I was there because myself and another boy couldn't

:17:32.:17:38.

carry a crowbar three miles in the desired time. It was just too heavy

:17:39.:17:44.

for us. And we were beaten within an inch you are our lives and then he

:17:45.:17:50.

sat us on his knee and said I don't like to hit boys because it hurts

:17:51.:17:58.

me, you know. What a load of rubbish that was because I was sure he

:17:59.:18:02.

enjoyed it. I never saw a man beat children more than he did. This was

:18:03.:18:09.

the Catholic institution... Yes, he was a clishian Brother. And you were

:18:10.:18:14.

also sexually abused at that place as well? At least 30 times. Wow.

:18:15.:18:22.

Five by one person and at least 25 by a person who was in charge of me

:18:23.:18:30.

for a few months. It wasn't until he tried to rape me or half succeeded

:18:31.:18:36.

in raping me and I was screaming and so forth and he put his old fella in

:18:37.:18:46.

my mouth and evak lated and left gurgling and spluttering for 25

:18:47.:18:51.

minutes that he let me out and I went and I saw the priest in charge,

:18:52.:18:58.

I won't mention his name, and I told him and he then reported it to the

:18:59.:19:03.

principal. The principal called me to his office and he spoke so

:19:04.:19:07.

harshly to me, I thought I was this trouble and I didn't dare say

:19:08.:19:12.

anything about this brother. So I said the priest must have

:19:13.:19:15.

misunderstood what I said and that was the end of that. I was let go

:19:16.:19:23.

mercifully because I thought I was in for another sound thrashing and

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because I opened my mouth I was shipped off. Can I ask you Clifford,

:19:29.:19:35.

I mean such horrors perpetrated against you as a boy. What impact

:19:36.:19:40.

does that have on you as you're growing up into adult life? Well,

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for the first 11 years, I joined the Navy and I was very much a loner. I

:19:47.:19:51.

wouldn't trust anybody. And even, even when I got married, I didn't

:19:52.:19:56.

like anybody to touch me, no one to put their arms around me, no one.

:19:57.:20:02.

Male for female and that goes, that still continues today. I don't want

:20:03.:20:07.

anybody to touch me. I don't know how I imagined to have children

:20:08.:20:11.

because I didn't even like my wife to sit next to me and I love her

:20:12.:20:18.

dearly. It's a scandal that this independent inquiry into child sex

:20:19.:20:22.

abuse is going to explore and investigate. Do you think that 60

:20:23.:20:28.

years on, it can get to the heart of why this decision was made to send

:20:29.:20:33.

thousands of British children abroad? Well, it's got to come out

:20:34.:20:43.

because we must see that this can never happen because in the 80s they

:20:44.:20:47.

sent convicts out to Australia, but we didn't steal anything. We didn't

:20:48.:20:51.

commit any crime. Yet we were dumped in a hell that I honestly think was

:20:52.:20:56.

worse on the convicts had. Clifford, thank you very much for

:20:57.:21:00.

talking to us. We appreciate your time and your openness, thank you.

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You're welcome. Thank you very much, Clifford Walsh.

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And we will bring you the start of the abuse inquiry at 10.30am.

:21:14.:21:18.

All these British children were isn't abroad for a better life is

:21:19.:21:24.

because some of the former child migrants are nearing the end of

:21:25.:21:28.

their life which is why they're starting the child sex abuse inquiry

:21:29.:21:33.

with this area. We'll bring you the proceedings live just after 10.30am.

:21:34.:21:42.

We'll go back to LA and talk about the mess-up and look at other

:21:43.:21:44.

notorious mix-ups. Is it an insult to disabled people

:21:45.:21:49.

to suggest that those who are, quote, taking pills at home

:21:50.:21:52.

who suffer from anxiety are not, The words were uttered by the head

:21:53.:21:58.

of Theresa May's policy board At issue is who in future should

:21:59.:22:03.

such receive benefits. Benefits tribunals have ruled that

:22:04.:22:12.

ministers should extend the scope of the new personal independence

:22:13.:22:14.

payments to another 160,000 people They are facing a backlash and it is

:22:15.:22:36.

not the first time this Government got into difficulties and suffered

:22:37.:22:42.

grief over curbs to disability benefits. You think about the last

:22:43.:22:47.

Budget of George Osborne when he tried to push through cuts to

:22:48.:22:50.

personal independence payments and Iain Duncan Smith resigned from the

:22:51.:22:54.

Cabinet. It was almost the start of the unravelling of the

:22:55.:22:57.

Cameron-Osborne Government. Well, now there is another head of steam

:22:58.:23:01.

building up following this court ruling which in effect means many,

:23:02.:23:05.

many more people will be able to claim personal independence payments

:23:06.:23:09.

becausically, extending it to people who have mental health issues,

:23:10.:23:12.

people who suffer from dementia or who suffered a stroke or are

:23:13.:23:16.

suffering from schizophrenia and the Government have reacted basically by

:23:17.:23:20.

saying we cannot afford this. It's going to cost nearly ?4 billion by

:23:21.:23:26.

2022 and they sthuk out an announcement saying they were

:23:27.:23:29.

reversing this court ruling. On Thursday, on Friday, on the day of

:23:30.:23:33.

the by-election results when all of us were looking elsewhere, we

:23:34.:23:36.

weren't focussed on this. That has added to the grief and let me read

:23:37.:23:42.

this. This is from the oldest Conservative think-tank the Bow

:23:43.:23:45.

Group, they said, "This is the behaviour that gives the

:23:46.:23:48.

Conservative Party a bad name, attacking the most in need and

:23:49.:23:52.

kicking people when they're down." This morning Heidi Allen had this

:23:53.:23:57.

message for the disabilities minister. If I was in her shoes I

:23:58.:24:04.

would, I think, take the financial hit, say OK, we need to accept this.

:24:05.:24:07.

Now, let's really look at this policy which is something that needs

:24:08.:24:11.

it happen anyway and just review the whole thing from top to bottom and I

:24:12.:24:15.

think in the end if we did that, we'd work hand-in-hand with

:24:16.:24:18.

charities and people who were disabled because they would know

:24:19.:24:22.

we're trying to build a system that works. What added fuel to the fire

:24:23.:24:27.

is the comments by George Freeman who is Mrs May's head of her policy

:24:28.:24:31.

unit. So he is, if you like, her big brains. And over the weekend, he

:24:32.:24:38.

said that the court rulings were bizarre, these were just tweaks to

:24:39.:24:44.

the system, but the most incendiary remarks was when he suggested these

:24:45.:24:49.

people who would get PIPs were not really disabled, they were just

:24:50.:24:51.

people taking pills to help them cope with anxiety. Listen to what he

:24:52.:24:56.

said. Look, the truth on the disability budget is we spend ?50

:24:57.:25:00.

billion a year on disability benefits and what we're trying to

:25:01.:25:03.

make sure is we get them to the right people who are most in need.

:25:04.:25:08.

He didn't mention these tweaks are actually to do with rolling back

:25:09.:25:14.

some bizarre decisions through the tribunals which means that benefits

:25:15.:25:17.

are given to people who take pills at home. We want to make sure we get

:25:18.:25:22.

the money to the really disabled people who need it. He put out a

:25:23.:25:27.

tweet. He says, "Having suffered myself as a child from childhood

:25:28.:25:33.

anxiety and depression, I don't need any lectures on the damage anxiety

:25:34.:25:43.

does." Well, what gives this more resonance, Theresa May made mental

:25:44.:25:46.

health one of her cornerstone issues, remember that speech saying

:25:47.:25:49.

she wanted to end the stigma attached to mental health. Here is a

:25:50.:25:55.

reminder of what she said. This is a historic opportunity to right a

:25:56.:25:59.

wrong and give people deserving of compassion and support the attention

:26:00.:26:03.

and treatment they deserve. And for all of us to change the way we view

:26:04.:26:08.

mental illness so striving to improve mental well-being is seen as

:26:09.:26:12.

just as natural, positive and good as striving to improve our physical

:26:13.:26:15.

well-being. Not that long ago. We've got the

:26:16.:26:20.

Budget on the horizon. Any chance of it, things being changed before

:26:21.:26:24.

then? Well, it's possible because let's be honest, it has happened

:26:25.:26:28.

before. You think of George Osborne backing down over personal

:26:29.:26:31.

independence payments and tax credits so it has happened before.

:26:32.:26:34.

They won't want to back doub, but I think they're in a real jam here

:26:35.:26:37.

because the disability charities are up in arms because they say look, if

:26:38.:26:43.

you suffer from say dementia, you can have as profound problems out

:26:44.:26:48.

and about as if you are blind. So why shouldn't they get this benefit?

:26:49.:26:53.

More than that, the disability tribunals, they went through the

:26:54.:26:58.

cases in real detail and you know, we clearly know increasingly the

:26:59.:27:01.

difficulties people have with mental health issues. So they're under

:27:02.:27:05.

pressure, not just politically, but from the mental health charities and

:27:06.:27:09.

the last thing to say is the Government, before they announced

:27:10.:27:12.

they were going to try and rewrite the rules without anyone noticing,

:27:13.:27:17.

they didn't consult anyone, they didn't consult Parliament or the

:27:18.:27:20.

disclaket charities and they tried to sneak it out, for that and for Mr

:27:21.:27:26.

Freeman's comments, there is a real backlash building up. Thank you,

:27:27.:27:28.

Norman. If you are somebody who takes pills

:27:29.:27:37.

at home for anxiety, get in touch with me. We'd like to get in touch

:27:38.:27:40.

with you. The NHS has mislaid more than half

:27:41.:27:44.

a million items of patients' confidential medical correspondence,

:27:45.:27:47.

including treatment plans The documents, sent between GPs

:27:48.:27:49.

and hospitals over a period of five years, did not

:27:50.:27:52.

reach their recipients because they were mistakenly stored

:27:53.:27:55.

in a warehouse by private company So, where are they? Well, Victoria,

:27:56.:28:11.

NHS England say they have tracked down all these letters now. This was

:28:12.:28:15.

over a period of five years from 2011 to 2016. They were 500,000

:28:16.:28:20.

items of correspondence, spent from hospitals to GPs, telling the GP

:28:21.:28:24.

about where the patient's treatment had got to and what needed to be

:28:25.:28:28.

followed up. They were items which couldn't get to the GP surgery

:28:29.:28:31.

because they were sent back because the patient had moved, in most

:28:32.:28:35.

cases, so this firm were brought in to sort of redirect them to get to

:28:36.:28:39.

the proper Distin nation where the patient was. The trouble is they

:28:40.:28:43.

ended up in a warehouse and that's the nub of the problem. NHS England

:28:44.:28:47.

say they have managed to get hold of them all and follow them all up and

:28:48.:28:55.

the 500,000 has boiled down to 2500 patients whose treatment might have

:28:56.:28:58.

been affected because the GP didn't know the full story and quite a few

:28:59.:29:02.

of the 500,000 were fairly routine bits of correspondence, but it does

:29:03.:29:06.

raise a lot of questions about whether the 200 or more have been

:29:07.:29:10.

seriously affected. Right. And when will we know the answer to that? Who

:29:11.:29:16.

is trying to find out how seriously afeted or otherwise? NHS England say

:29:17.:29:20.

there is no evidence that anyone has been affected of those 2500, but

:29:21.:29:23.

they are still pursuing it. Labour are saying we got wind of this last

:29:24.:29:28.

summer, at the very end of the Parliamentary session, the Health

:29:29.:29:33.

Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, put out a brief statement saying there was a

:29:34.:29:36.

problem with redirecting the correspondence, but we weren't told

:29:37.:29:42.

the 500,000. Labour want to know why has it taken so long for this emerge

:29:43.:29:46.

and what was the full story? Why were they in a warehouse and what

:29:47.:29:48.

was going on and Labour are pushing for answers in the House of Commons

:29:49.:29:51.

so we may yet learn more about this as the day goes on. Thank you very

:29:52.:29:53.

much, Hugh Pym is our health editor. We will cross live shortly to the

:29:54.:30:05.

beginning of the public hearings into the inquiry into child sex

:30:06.:30:09.

abuse. Glyn says, "I have to say I'm fed-up

:30:10.:30:13.

as a disabled person being picked on by the Government. They simply have

:30:14.:30:17.

no idea what they're doing to us. I can't help being disabled and I

:30:18.:30:22.

didn't ask to be like this, but to be targeted by the Government is

:30:23.:30:27.

appalling. It makes me worry about any cuts which has an impact on me

:30:28.:30:29.

and makes my condition worse." Theindependent inquiry into child

:30:30.:30:47.

sexual abuse in England and Wales is holding its first public hearings

:30:48.:30:49.

today, more than two and a half It'll begin by examining

:30:50.:30:52.

the appalling mistreatment of British children many

:30:53.:30:57.

whom were orphans or from poor families, who were sent

:30:58.:31:00.

to Australia in the years The inquiry will be told

:31:01.:31:02.

that the scale of abuse they suffered was much wider

:31:03.:31:06.

than previously thought. Organisers of this year's Oscars say

:31:07.:31:09.

they're still trying to work out how the ceremony ended in chaos,

:31:10.:31:12.

after the wrong film The Hollywood musical

:31:13.:31:15.

La La Land was mistakenly revealed as the winner,

:31:16.:31:17.

but during the acceptance speeches it was discovered the award should

:31:18.:31:20.

have gone to Moonlight, which is a drama about a gay black

:31:21.:31:22.

youth coming to terms The firm that counts the votes,

:31:23.:31:25.

PriceWaterhouseCoopers, has apologised, saying

:31:26.:31:34.

there was a mix-up with The NHS has mislaid more than half

:31:35.:31:36.

a million items of patients' confidential medical correspondence,

:31:37.:31:40.

including treatment plans The government is facing calls

:31:41.:31:46.

from Conservative MPs to scrap plans to limit access

:31:47.:31:49.

to a key disability benefit. It's thought changes to the rules

:31:50.:31:51.

on who qualifies for the personal independence payment

:31:52.:31:53.

could affect around 160,000 people. It comes as a key aide

:31:54.:31:55.

to Theresa May said were needed to roll back the bizarre

:31:56.:31:57.

decisions of tribunals. That's a summary of the latest

:31:58.:32:01.

news, join me for BBC Here's Jessica again now

:32:02.:32:04.

with the sports headlines. Manchester United have picked

:32:05.:32:07.

up their first piece of silverware of the season by beating Southampton

:32:08.:32:09.

to win the EFL Cup. Manager Jose Mourinho has called

:32:10.:32:12.

on fans to camp outside Zlatan Ibrahimovic's house to ensure

:32:13.:32:14.

he stays another season at the club after the striker scored

:32:15.:32:17.

the winner in the 87th minute A third hat trick in nine games

:32:18.:32:19.

for Tottenham striker Harry Kane helped Spurs to a 4-0 win over Stoke

:32:20.:32:25.

that moves them up to second And England head coach Eddie Jones

:32:26.:32:29.

has criticised Italy for their tactics in yesterday's

:32:30.:32:32.

Six Nations match. England came back from 10-5 down,

:32:33.:32:36.

to win 36-15 at Twickenham. A chaotic night at the Oscars. This

:32:37.:33:03.

was the moment Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty made the wrong

:33:04.:33:05.

announcement when they were given the wrong envelope.

:33:06.:33:12.

Moonlight, you guys won best picture.

:33:13.:33:36.

I'm afraid they read the wrong thing. This is not a joke. Moonlight

:33:37.:33:50.

has won best picture. Moonlight, best picture.

:33:51.:33:55.

Let's go live to LA now and we can talk to Sandro Monetti, a British

:33:56.:34:07.

The inquest is beginning. The mother of all mix-ups. Rain has been

:34:08.:34:17.

accepted by PricewaterhouseCoopers, who for 83 years have tabulated the

:34:18.:34:23.

results and prepared the envelopes. -- blame has been accepted. Don't

:34:24.:34:31.

bet on getting another year, PwC! Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty were

:34:32.:34:34.

handed the wrong envelope. There are duplicates backstage and they had

:34:35.:34:37.

been handed the envelope for best actress, which was Emma Stone, La La

:34:38.:34:42.

Land. Warren Beatty seems to realise the mistake and Faye Dunaway looks

:34:43.:34:46.

over, sees La La Land, calls it out, and she has disappeared and has not

:34:47.:34:55.

been seen since and she wouldn't comment at the after party. Now

:34:56.:34:56.

there is a lot of finger-pointing. And whoever mixed up the envelopes,

:34:57.:35:01.

I don't fancy their future employment chances! But it means he

:35:02.:35:06.

will never ever forget who won best picture at this year's Oscars

:35:07.:35:09.

ceremony. Some people can't even remember who won last year! And

:35:10.:35:15.

Jordan Horrowitz, the producer of La La Land, who took charge of the

:35:16.:35:19.

whole thing, maybe he should produce the Oscars next year because he

:35:20.:35:23.

seems to know what he is doing! He rescued it and handed it to

:35:24.:35:26.

Moonlight. I thought I had seen it all covering Hollywood but this was

:35:27.:35:32.

a first. What a total fiasco. The Oscars are hugely enjoyable and now

:35:33.:35:35.

they are covered in huge embarrassment. What a mess but what

:35:36.:35:43.

a laugh! We will probably interrupted our conversation as we

:35:44.:35:46.

go to a live event here in the UK. Why do you think Warren Beatty just

:35:47.:35:50.

handed that envelope to Faye Dunaway instead of saying, hang on, this

:35:51.:35:55.

isn't right? And conferring with the host, Jimmy Kimmel? He knew there

:35:56.:35:59.

was an issue so why didn't he say something? They were celebrating the

:36:00.:36:08.

50th anniversary of Bonnie and Clyde. They are still causing chaos

:36:09.:36:13.

50 years later obviously. Who knows? That is the big question. What was

:36:14.:36:19.

going on in Warren Beatty's mind? He is being destroyed on social media.

:36:20.:36:23.

Faye Dunaway was the one who read it out, not him, but he explained that

:36:24.:36:30.

he had that momentary pause... We have got to interrupted. Thank you

:36:31.:36:36.

very much. We are pausing there to go live to the inquiry, the

:36:37.:36:40.

Independent inquiry into child sex abuse, which is just about to begin.

:36:41.:36:50.

This is the chair. Finishing next Friday, the 10th of March, 2017. The

:36:51.:36:57.

case study into child migration programmes is a part of the

:36:58.:37:01.

inquiry's wide investigation into institutional failures in connection

:37:02.:37:09.

with the abuse of children outside of the United Kingdom. This is an

:37:10.:37:12.

important day for the work of the inquiry and for the core

:37:13.:37:16.

participants and witnesses taking part in this case study. Today marks

:37:17.:37:23.

not only the first day of this hearing on child migration

:37:24.:37:26.

programmes, but the opening of the first public hearing in which the

:37:27.:37:33.

inquiry will hear live and read evidence from complainants and their

:37:34.:37:37.

experiences of sexual abuse. As you all know, the task of the chair and

:37:38.:37:44.

panel of the inquiry is to examine the extent to which public and

:37:45.:37:49.

private institutions in England and Wales have failed to protect

:37:50.:37:54.

children from sexual abuse in the past and for us to make meaningful

:37:55.:37:57.

recommendations to keep children safe today and in the future. The

:37:58.:38:03.

definition and scope of this case study was published on the inquiry

:38:04.:38:12.

website in May 20 16. To fulfil our task, the inquiry will hold two

:38:13.:38:17.

hearings in the child migration case study during 2017. This hearing,

:38:18.:38:24.

known as the part one hearing, will provide an introduction to the

:38:25.:38:29.

history of the child migration programmes and the institutions

:38:30.:38:31.

involved and the nature of the allegations of sexual abuse that

:38:32.:38:35.

have been made by former child migrants. The part two hearings will

:38:36.:38:44.

commence on the 10th of July 2017 and will focus on whether

:38:45.:38:49.

institutions based in England and Wales took sufficient care to

:38:50.:38:54.

protect children in the migration programmes and the response of those

:38:55.:38:57.

institutions to the alleged sexual abuse of child migrants. The

:38:58.:39:04.

inquiry's broader programme of work was published in its December 2016

:39:05.:39:11.

report. The two hearings in the child migration case study are part

:39:12.:39:15.

of a full timetable of substantive hearings and seminars and a number

:39:16.:39:22.

of investigations which will be held in 2017 and into 2018. As part of

:39:23.:39:31.

this case study, as in all investigations, the inquiry

:39:32.:39:34.

continues to receive and review very large volumes of evidence relating

:39:35.:39:38.

to sexual abuse and institutional responses to it. And you will hear

:39:39.:39:42.

more detail on the evidence shortly from counsel. To all the core

:39:43.:39:49.

participants and their legal teams, we thank you for the hard work you

:39:50.:39:52.

have done in preparing for this hearing. And for the ongoing work

:39:53.:39:59.

involved in this case study. To the former child migrants who will give

:40:00.:40:02.

evidence before the inquiry during these hearings, and to those who

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have given written testimony, we are grateful for your courage in coming

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forward to be a witness. We are conscious of the great challenges

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that many of you have encountered as a result of your experiences as

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children. I want to ensure you of the high priority the inquiry places

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on case study and on hearing your experiences. We thank those of you

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who have travelled long distances in order to testify before us. I would

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now like to introduce the core participants and where appropriate

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their representatives as follows. Counsel for the child migrants

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trust. Counsel for the participant Oliver Cosgrove, Mr Imran Khan. Core

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participant Mr David Hill. Counsel for Barnardos, Mr Stephen Ford QC.

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Counsel for the sisters of Nazareth, Mr Bilal Croat. Counsel for the

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Catholic counsel, Kate gathered QC. Counsel for the Secretary of State

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for Health, Samantha Lewthwaite QC. Good morning to everybody and

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welcome to this hearing. Before we hear from counsel, a couple of

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points on practical arrangements. We will sit each day from 10:30am

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except on the days we are hearing evidence by video link from the east

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coast of Australia. Then we will start early at 8am. Those days are

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day six, the 7th of March, and day seven, the 8th of March. Ordinarily,

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we will take a 15 minute break at around 11:45am. On days when we are

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sitting early, we may take an early break during the morning. We will

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break for lunch at one o'clock, returning at 2 o'clock. We intend to

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sit until around 4 o'clock each day. By way of an agenda, we rely on the

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hearing timetable which sets out the order in which witnesses will be

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called. The hearing transcript is recorded simultaneously on screens

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throughout the room and will be published at the end of each date on

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the inquiry website. Any directions arising from the day's hearing will

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also be published on the website. As you will hear in more detail from

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counsel, there are anonymity arrangements in place for witnesses.

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Ciphering and reductions have also been used in relation to the

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evidence in accordance with the inquiry's redaction protocol and

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restriction order, both of which are available on the website. If there

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is any inadvertent breach of a restriction order, I would ask that

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the simultaneous recording be stopped momentarily so that the

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issue can be addressed as appropriate. I now invite leading

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counsel to the inquiry in relation to the case study on child migration

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programmes Henrietta Hild QC to address the panel. Please go ahead.

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Thank you, chair and members of the panel. I appear to date with junior

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counsel of this case study, and Paul Davison are also working on this

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case study but are not present at the case today. Chair, on opening

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the proceedings of the half of the inquiry I would like to first of all

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explain the scope and purpose of the case study, secondly provide an

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overview of the child migration schemes, thirdly summarise the

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evidence we anticipate he will hear during the case study, and finally

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remind everybody of some logistical issues in respect of the witnesses.

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Turning first to the scope and purpose of this case study. This

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case study, as you have said, is part of the inquiry's protection of

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children outside the UK investigation. That investigation

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seeks to explore the extent to which institutions and organisations based

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in England and Wales have taken seriously their responsibilities to

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protect older outside of the United Kingdom from sexual abuse. The

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inquiry has decided to divide that broad investigation into a number of

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narrow case studies, of which this case study on the child migration

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programmes is the first. In summary, you and the panel will hear that the

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child migration programmes were large-scale schemes in which

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thousands of children, many of them vulnerable, poor, abandoned,

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illegitimate or in the care of the state, were systematically and

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permanently migrated to remote parts of the British Empire by various

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institutions in England and Wales and with the knowledge and approval

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of the British government. Many allegations of sexual abuse have

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been made by former child migrants. First whether Government

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departments, public authorities, private and or charitable

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institutions based in England and Wales, took sufficient care to

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protect those children involved in child migration programmes. Second,

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the extent to which those same bodies were aware or should have

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been aware of allegations of evidence or evidence of sexual abuse

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concerning those children. And whether appropriate steps were taken

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in response. And third, the adequacy of support and repar rations that

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have been offered to individuals who suffered sexual abuse relating to

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their inclusion into child migration programmes. As you've indicated

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chair, the inquiry has recognised seven core participants, the child

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migrants trust, Oliver cos grove and David Hill, Barnardo's, and the

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Secretary of State for Health. It is understood chair as you know that

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the Secretary of State for Health will represent the interests of

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other Government departments such as the Home Office, the Foreign and

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Commonwealth Office, and the Department for Education. As you've

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indicated chair the inquiry seeks to meet its terms of reference by

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conducting two public hearings in this case study. A part one hearing

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intended to provide an introduction to the child migration programmes

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and what previous inquiries have established about the incidents of

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sexual abuse of child migrants and to hear direct evidence from former

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child migrants of their experiences. And a part two hearing which will

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focus on the position of the institutions involved, in

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particular, what steps they took to protect children, what they knew or

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should have known of the sexual abuse of child migrants, the

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adequacy of their responses and the issue of support and repar ration.

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Today is the first day of that part one hearing. The part two hearing

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about commence on 10th July 2017. Turning then to an overview of the

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child migration programmes. Chair, the child migration case study

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relates to a lengthy episode in child welfare in England and Wales.

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Child migration programmes achieved a degree of public recognition in

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2010 when the then Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, issued a formal

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apology to former child migrants. But there remains little public

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awareness of the full extept of these programmes, of how they were

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conducted and their effects on the children subjected to them and

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particularly of the allegations of sexual abuse related to them. It is

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estimated that you will hear evidence that over 100,000 British

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children were sent abroad as subjects of the child migration

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programmes, mostly to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and what was

:48:11.:48:14.

then southern Rhodesia, modern day Zimbabwe. We anticipate that you

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will hear that most British child migrants, around 90,000 were sent to

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Canada between 1869 and 1924. The focus of this case study is the

:48:26.:48:29.

post-war period. But it is recognised that child migration

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schemes that operated for a lengthy period before then. As to the period

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after 1945, we anticipated that you will hear from the experts that over

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3,000 children were sent to Australia, between 1947 and 1965,

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with a few thereafter until the early 1970s. Around 559 were sent to

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New Zealand. 329 were September to one institution in Canada, between

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1935 and 1948 and 276 were sent to southern owe Decemberia between 1946

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and 1956. Chair, you'll hear evidence as to the ration nationals,

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you are likely to hear both British and colonial governments regarded

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the programmes as carrying the perceived benefits of reducing the

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cost to the State of maintaining destitute children. Many of the

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organisations advanced a humanitarian rational, ie they were

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rescuing children from poor and unsuitable environments and

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providing them with new and better opportunities overseas. Child

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migration assisted in populating the empire with white, Anglo-Saxon

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settlers. It is argued that it met religious concerns about

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safeguarding children's religious beliefs and it sought to ensure that

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a particular religious denomination was well represented among the

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imperial settlers. As to the funding for child migration, you'll hear

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initially the sceles were funded by a combination of charitable

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donations and funding from local unions. However, the empire

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settlement Act of 1922 and those that followed provided that partial

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public funding was available for any approved migration scheme, whether

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it was run by the Government or by a voluntary organisation. Additional

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funding was provided by national and regional governments overseas.

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According to the available records, chair, children as young as two were

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migrated under these programmes. We anticipate that you will hear

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evidence that these children were put on board ships departing from

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England and Wales, without being given any real understanding of

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where they were going, what they were doing and why they were being

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isn't. Many will say they were taken without the consent or the informed

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consent of their parents or guardians. Many will say that they

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were wrongly told that they were orphans. Separated from their

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siblings, and deprived of basic details about their identities.

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Making it much harder if not impossible to reunite themselves

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with their families in the future. In the receiving countries, most

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children were placed in institutions or in farm schools where they

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provide I had labour and domestic services or with families. In those

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institutions or schools, child migrants have given evidence that

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they were frequently subjected to extremely harsh conditions. Hard

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labour, and physical abuse by those responsible for their welfare. In

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addition, there are allegation of widespread and systematic sexual

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abuse taking place in those institutions. Or some of them. Some

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former child migrants alleged they were subjected to sexual abuse prior

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to their migration in homes in England and Wales. There is some

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evidence that you will hear of child migrants being sexually abused

:51:49.:51:50.

during the jurpb which from England and Wales. Others described sexual

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abuse in work environments to which they were sent. And some have

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described sexual abuse in holiday placements from the institutions.

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You're likely to hear chair very emotional accounts of the decades of

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pain their experiences have caused. In respect of the institutions

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involved, the UK Government provided partial funding for child migration

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schemes, approved the residential institutions to receive child

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migrants and was responsible for consenting to the migration of

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children sent from local authority care. Local authorities sent a

:52:25.:52:29.

relatively small proportion of children in their care overseas and

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had no regulatory role or oversight of the children sent by voluntary

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organisations. Overseas organisations had varying

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responsibilities for the guardianship, partial funding and

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monitoring of child migrants. It was voluntary organisations including

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religious bodies, who oversaw the selection and transportation of many

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child migrants from their own residential holes or directly from

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their families the they sometimes worked with organisations to arrange

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migration. Voluntary organisations also often placed the children in

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residential homes overseas, that were either part of the same

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organisation, or an affiliate of it or were part of the same religious

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denomination. Given the scope of the case study, chair, the inquiry will

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not consider the role of overseas bodies in child migration in any

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detail. Say to the extent the same is necessary to understand the

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roles, responsibilities and response of those institutions based in

:53:25.:53:29.

England and Wales. In terms of the voluntary organisations involved,

:53:30.:53:32.

you will hear evidence from a selection of children, who were

:53:33.:53:36.

migrated overseas by the Fairbridge Society, the Church of England

:53:37.:53:40.

Children's Society, Cornwall County Council, the sisters of Nazareth,

:53:41.:53:46.

Southwark Catholic rescue society, the royal overseas league, the

:53:47.:53:51.

National Children's Home, Father Hudson Society. It has not been

:53:52.:53:56.

possible to identify or call a witness who was migrated by every

:53:57.:53:59.

institution involved in the scheme, but he will hear you will hear from

:54:00.:54:09.

the experts. We anticipate chair that the experts will apine that

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child migration schemes were never accepted practise of the day, but

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attracted criticism of their working methods as well as support. That

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there was increasing concern about the schemes from some parts of the

:54:20.:54:23.

UK Government, in the light of the childcare standards set out in the

:54:24.:54:27.

Curtis Report of 1946 and that these concerns formed part of the reasons

:54:28.:54:33.

why child migration schemes ended. Turning now briefly to the role of

:54:34.:54:38.

other inquiries and investigations. In 1998, the House of Commons Select

:54:39.:54:42.

Committee on health investigated the issue of child migration. It found

:54:43.:54:47.

that the sexual abuse of child migrants in some institutions in

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Australia was widespread and systematic and to quote the language

:54:52.:54:55.

of their report, exceptionally depraved. The responsibility of some

:54:56.:54:58.

of the receiving institutions for the sexual abuse of children and the

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adequacy of repar rations to former child migrants are being

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investigated by the Australian Royal Commission. The Australian

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commission has carried out three case study investigations into

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institutions to which British child migrants were sent. It has found

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that at Salvation Army homes in Queensland and New South Wales it

:55:21.:55:25.

heard graphic and shocking accounts of how boys were treated. There was

:55:26.:55:32.

sex sexual abuse by officers or from employees and from other boys

:55:33.:55:36.

resident in the home from 1956 until the closure of the homes. The

:55:37.:55:40.

Australian Royal Commission found at Christian brothers institutions in

:55:41.:55:45.

Australia, children were isolated, inadequately educated and sexually

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abused and with regards to St Joseph's orphanage, there was cruel

:55:54.:55:58.

punishment of the children there. Some children had various barriers

:55:59.:56:03.

to reporting sexual abuse and some who did complain were not believed

:56:04.:56:07.

or were punished in. January, the Northern Ireland historical abuse

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inquiry which investigated children sent from institutions in Northern

:56:10.:56:13.

Ireland to Australia, in the years after World War II, found numerous

:56:14.:56:17.

failures in respect of the Northern Irish Government and various

:56:18.:56:19.

institutions that sent children to Australia. The Scottish child abuse

:56:20.:56:27.

inquiry is also conducting an investigation into child migration.

:56:28.:56:30.

The United Kingdom Government has acknowledged that children in child

:56:31.:56:34.

migration programmes endured the harshest of the conditions, neglect

:56:35.:56:38.

and abuse, but made no specific mention of sexual abuse. To date no

:56:39.:56:43.

public inquiry into the United Kingdom has under taken analysis of

:56:44.:56:47.

allegation of sexual abuse of child migrants and possible failings by

:56:48.:56:49.

institutions based in England and Wales in relation to that abuse.

:56:50.:56:55.

Previous reports and reviews on child migration only considered

:56:56.:56:59.

sexual abuse in a limited way. The present case study therefore, chair,

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for the first time considers whether the various England and Wales bodies

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took sufficient care to protect children who were child migrants

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from sexual abuse and whether after that abuse came to light there has

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been adequate

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