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What a cock-up. This is not a joke. I'm afraid they read the wrong | :00:07. | :00:39. | |
thing. Moonlight, best picture. It really was incredible. Envelope | :00:40. | :00:42. | |
gate, we will have more with all the academy award winners and that | :00:43. | :00:43. | |
mistake. The scandal of young British | :00:44. | :00:46. | |
children being sent overseas during the 50s and 60s | :00:47. | :00:50. | |
where they were abused in institutions is the first subject | :00:51. | :00:52. | |
of the sex abuse inquiry that David Hill was sent | :00:53. | :00:55. | |
from the UK to Australia. He was nine years old. I thought the | :00:56. | :01:03. | |
idea of being flogged in the middle of the night with a sadistic cottage | :01:04. | :01:08. | |
mother with an ironing board was the norm. If this inquiry is capable of | :01:09. | :01:14. | |
opening some of that truth, this is a good thing. | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
Cash for some schools in England looks likely to be tighter than even | :01:19. | :01:22. | |
according to head teachers who are warning of bigger class | :01:23. | :01:25. | |
The government says school funding is now | :01:26. | :01:28. | |
We are going to talk late in the programme about disability benefits, | :01:29. | :01:48. | |
in particular personal independence payments, and whether they should go | :01:49. | :01:52. | |
to, quote, really disabled people, not those taking pills at home. | :01:53. | :01:57. | |
Those are the words of one Conservative MP who is being urged | :01:58. | :02:02. | |
to apologise. Norman Smith will look in detail for you at the further | :02:03. | :02:05. | |
cuts planned at what it might mean for you. Do get in touch about those | :02:06. | :02:13. | |
stories today. If you are texting you will be charged at the standard | :02:14. | :02:15. | |
network rate. This year's Oscars ceremony has | :02:16. | :02:21. | |
ended in farce, after the wrong film The team behind musical | :02:22. | :02:25. | |
La La Land had already started their acceptance speeches | :02:26. | :02:30. | |
when the mistake was discovered. It was one of the film's producers | :02:31. | :02:33. | |
who then said the award should One of the award's presenters, | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
Warren Beatty, was handed David Willis looks | :02:37. | :02:40. | |
back at the night. I still have a lot of growing | :02:41. | :02:46. | |
and learning and work to do and this guy is a really beautiful symbol | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
to continue on that journey and I am For the star of La La Land, | :02:51. | :02:53. | |
Emma Stone, it was a Hollywood ending, named best actress | :02:54. | :02:57. | |
for her role on one of the most That just left the big award | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
of the night, best film. La La Land's producers were busy | :03:02. | :03:08. | |
with their acceptance speeches but look at the man | :03:09. | :03:31. | |
with the headphones on at the back. Frantically trying to | :03:32. | :03:34. | |
clear the stage and take the best picture Oscar away | :03:35. | :03:39. | |
from La La Land and give it to those whose film had actually won, | :03:40. | :03:42. | |
the producers of Moonlight. La La Land producer Jordan Horowitz | :03:43. | :03:44. | |
gallantly handed the Oscar over It was left to an embarrassed | :03:45. | :04:01. | |
Warren Beatty to try to explain I opened the envelope and it said | :04:02. | :04:07. | |
Emma Stone, La La Land. That's why I took such a long | :04:08. | :04:18. | |
look at Faye and at you. Moonlight, the arthouse underdog, | :04:19. | :04:21. | |
the drama of a gay black man growing up in Miami, was dwarfed | :04:22. | :04:30. | |
by La La Land in terms of nominations but it ended | :04:31. | :04:33. | |
triumphant in the most Very clearly, very clearly, | :04:34. | :04:35. | |
even in my dreams this could not be true but to hell with dreams, | :04:36. | :04:43. | |
I'm done with it Academy Award organisers | :04:44. | :04:45. | |
are still trying to work out exactly what went wrong on a night like no | :04:46. | :04:56. | |
other at the Oscars. That was the host, Jimmy Kimmel, | :04:57. | :05:09. | |
saying he blamed himself for it. Let's go live to the red carpet | :05:10. | :05:14. | |
outside the Vanity fair party. We can see Emma Stone, who won best | :05:15. | :05:18. | |
actress for her performance in La La Land. She had an amazing night. She | :05:19. | :05:23. | |
was on stage when she thought the film had also won best picture. | :05:24. | :05:27. | |
James Cook, looking fantastic in his kilt, is on the green and white | :05:28. | :05:31. | |
striped carpet, to match your kilt. Tell us what happened. Yes, I | :05:32. | :05:40. | |
arranged that! Well, she is taking her moment in the sun, Emma Stone. | :05:41. | :05:45. | |
She has got an Oscar. But her film does not have the best picture Oscar | :05:46. | :05:53. | |
and it was the most extraordinary and most bizarre moment, the | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
strangest plot twists you have ever seen. The producers were on the | :05:58. | :06:01. | |
stage and they were well into their speeches before it became apparent | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
that something was wrong. There was a certain sense of a frisson that | :06:06. | :06:08. | |
there might be something amiss to begin with because there was a big | :06:09. | :06:13. | |
delay before the name was read out. Nonetheless eventually it became | :06:14. | :06:21. | |
clear that Moonlight had won. One of the producers of La La Land had the | :06:22. | :06:23. | |
unenviable task of announcing this to the world and holding up the card | :06:24. | :06:28. | |
that said Moonlight. And eventually the producers of Moonlight came on | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
stage to accept their award. We have been speaking to the director, Barry | :06:33. | :06:38. | |
Jenkins, tonight. He came down here. He won. At the end of the day, they | :06:39. | :06:42. | |
won, and that was all that mattered to them for best picture. What an | :06:43. | :06:48. | |
amazing evening. Was it as simple as somebody handing the wrong envelope | :06:49. | :06:54. | |
to Warren Beatty? It seems that was the case. The envelope that was | :06:55. | :06:58. | |
handed over was a second envelope containing a duplicate copy of the | :06:59. | :07:04. | |
previous award. As I understand it, they always do have another one just | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
in case. The previous award had been Emma Stone. When the envelope was | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
opened, I suppose if you glance down at it, that explains the boards, and | :07:13. | :07:17. | |
it did say La La Land on it somewhere. It is not entirely clear | :07:18. | :07:23. | |
but that seems to be what happened. That is where it went wrong. Is | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
there any chance of grabbing a word with Emma Stone? Is she heading away | :07:28. | :07:34. | |
from you or towards you? No! Are you kidding me? She breezed up the | :07:35. | :07:37. | |
carpet on the other side and she has gone into the party and she stops | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
were nobody and she was making it very clear she wasn't going to stop. | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
You get a sense of who will stop and who will not and sometimes you can | :07:46. | :07:54. | |
face them back -- fish them back. If we could talk to her, we would! I | :07:55. | :08:01. | |
know! We will have a half-hour Oscars special from 9:30am until ten | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
o'clock where we bring you all the winners and we will discuss in more | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
detail the films that won. La La Land did get six Oscars but that is | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
overshadowed by that horrendous mistake. | :08:14. | :08:16. | |
Joanna Gosling is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary | :08:17. | :08:20. | |
The independent inquiry into child sexual abuse will hold its first | :08:21. | :08:26. | |
public hearings today, more than two and a half | :08:27. | :08:28. | |
years after it was set up by the government. | :08:29. | :08:30. | |
It will begin by examining the mistreatment of British children | :08:31. | :08:33. | |
in care or from poor families who were sent to Australia in the | :08:34. | :08:37. | |
The inquiry will be told that the scale of abuse | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
they suffered was much wider than previously thought. | :08:42. | :08:43. | |
Our home affairs correspondent Tom Symonds is at the inquiry | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
The inquiry will be told that the scale of abuse | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
they suffered was much wider than previously thought. | :08:53. | :08:53. | |
Our home affairs correspondent tom symonds is at the inquiry | :08:54. | :08:56. | |
This is just the start of it. What will it be focusing on? There are 13 | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
different topics that the inquiry will be focusing on and this is one | :09:02. | :09:04. | |
of those topics, part of it, which gives you an idea of the scale of | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
this. In a nondescript building behind me they will be taking | :09:09. | :09:11. | |
evidence to date from those involved in the issue of child migration. Up | :09:12. | :09:20. | |
until 1974, children from poor families were sent without their | :09:21. | :09:24. | |
parents to New Zealand, Australia and southern Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe, | :09:25. | :09:29. | |
for what they were told would be a better life. But in particular in | :09:30. | :09:33. | |
Australia in the post-war leers they experienced physical and sexual | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
abuse. This inquiry will be looking at the sexual abuse and the scale of | :09:39. | :09:41. | |
it. There have been more disclosures from people as they have grown older | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
in their lives and felt more able to talk about what happened to them. | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
And indeed what cover up there was, if there was one of those. There has | :09:50. | :09:54. | |
been an allegation that in the 1950s a lot of this was known about but | :09:55. | :09:57. | |
not much was done. And whether there was abuse in the British games | :09:58. | :10:00. | |
before these children left the UK. Thank you. | :10:01. | :10:04. | |
The NHS has mislaid more than half a million items of patients' | :10:05. | :10:07. | |
confidential medical correspondence, including treatment plans | :10:08. | :10:08. | |
The documents, sent between GPs and hospitals over a period | :10:09. | :10:12. | |
of five years, did not reach their recipients | :10:13. | :10:14. | |
because they were mistakenly stored in a warehouse by private company | :10:15. | :10:18. | |
A woman married to a British man for 27 years has been | :10:19. | :10:26. | |
Irene Clennell was being held in a Scottish detention centre, | :10:27. | :10:31. | |
but told the BBC she has been sent back to her country | :10:32. | :10:34. | |
She had been living near Durham with her husband, | :10:35. | :10:38. | |
It's thought that periods spent abroad caring for her parents | :10:39. | :10:44. | |
The Home Office said it does not comment on individual cases. | :10:45. | :10:56. | |
The government is facing calls from Conservative MPs to scrap | :10:57. | :10:58. | |
plans to limit access to a key disability benefit. | :10:59. | :11:00. | |
It's thought changes to the rules on who qualifies for | :11:01. | :11:03. | |
the personal independence payment could affect around 160,000 people. | :11:04. | :11:07. | |
It comes as a key aide to Theresa May said | :11:08. | :11:10. | |
were needed to roll back the bizarre decisions of tribunals. | :11:11. | :11:16. | |
Head teachers and school governors are calling on the Chancellor | :11:17. | :11:19. | |
to make schools a priority in the budget. | :11:20. | :11:21. | |
The National Association of Head Teachers and the National | :11:22. | :11:23. | |
Association of Governors have written an open letter | :11:24. | :11:25. | |
to Philip Hammond to say that they're being forced to make | :11:26. | :11:27. | |
Downing Street has dismissed suggestions that Theresa May | :11:28. | :11:36. | |
will announce that the end of free movement for new EU migrants | :11:37. | :11:39. | |
The Daily Telegraph is reporting that the cut-off date | :11:40. | :11:42. | |
could be the 15th of March, once the Government's Article 50 | :11:43. | :11:45. | |
Anyone arriving in the UK after that point would no longer | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
have the automatic right to stay in the UK permanently. | :11:51. | :11:57. | |
The BBC has ordered an investigation into TV licence collectors | :11:58. | :12:00. | |
following reports that they're deliberately targeting vulnerable | :12:01. | :12:01. | |
The Daily Mail claims enforcement officers, | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
who are employed by the private company Capita, are ordered to catch | :12:06. | :12:08. | |
28 evaders every week and promised financial incentives for hitting | :12:09. | :12:11. | |
The mobile phone company Nokia is bringing back | :12:12. | :12:19. | |
one of its most famous models, the 3310. | :12:20. | :12:21. | |
The company has struggled to compete in the smartphone era, | :12:22. | :12:23. | |
but it hopes there'll be a demand for a simple phone with a battery | :12:24. | :12:26. | |
The handset was first launched in 2000, | :12:27. | :12:33. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
Thank you. There are some very amusing tweets after what happened | :12:38. | :12:46. | |
at the Oscars, as you would expect. It is being called envelope gate. | :12:47. | :12:53. | |
This isn't particularly amusing, but this one says this is how you get | :12:54. | :12:57. | |
people to talk about the dead, boring event. This one, good grief! | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
This one, Emma Stone was the true star. And this one, I feel sorry for | :13:03. | :13:08. | |
Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway but what a hospital pass. Warren Beatty | :13:09. | :13:12. | |
and the envelope to Fay Dunaway and thought I don't know what is going | :13:13. | :13:18. | |
on so I will give it to her! Time for the sport now. Jessica is in | :13:19. | :13:24. | |
Salford. Manchester United are celebrating winning their first | :13:25. | :13:31. | |
silverware. Yes, first trophy on the books for them and the first trophy | :13:32. | :13:35. | |
for Jose Mourinho and he has written his name into history actually | :13:36. | :13:38. | |
because he has become the first Manchester United manager in their | :13:39. | :13:43. | |
history to win a trophy in the first season. Southampton might be a bit | :13:44. | :13:46. | |
disappointed because they played well. Much of the game they were on | :13:47. | :13:50. | |
top but they had this goal disallowed early on in the first | :13:51. | :13:55. | |
half. Then of course Ibrahimovic put Manchester United 1-0 up. After the | :13:56. | :14:00. | |
break, Southampton brought it back to 2-2 but who got the winner? Of | :14:01. | :14:06. | |
course Zlatan Ibrahimovic. He has been a vital part of Manchester | :14:07. | :14:11. | |
United's season. To the point that the manager, Jose Mourinho, has | :14:12. | :14:14. | |
called on the fans to help him to stay. I don't beg for players. But | :14:15. | :14:24. | |
if needed, I think maybe United fans can go to the door of his house and | :14:25. | :14:32. | |
stay there and stay there all night! It is needed. He will go for sure. | :14:33. | :14:40. | |
We're also going to be talking about the Six Nations. Don't know if you | :14:41. | :14:44. | |
saw this. At the England head coach Eddie Jones was annoyed at Italy. | :14:45. | :14:49. | |
England won the match but the way they went about its divided opinion. | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
Some people say the tactics were innovative and others say it ruined | :14:54. | :14:57. | |
the game. Essentially they chose not to compete at the breakdown, which | :14:58. | :15:00. | |
allowed them to step into the England line without going offside. | :15:01. | :15:04. | |
The England players here were bamboozled, even the captain, Dylan | :15:05. | :15:08. | |
Hartley. He asked the clarification from the referee. At one point | :15:09. | :15:14. | |
England were 10-5 down at half-time. England looked on course for a | :15:15. | :15:17. | |
famous unexpected victory at Twickenham, but five tries in the | :15:18. | :15:26. | |
second half got England the win and they won 36-15. This is what Eddie | :15:27. | :15:30. | |
Jones had to say and he is pretty critical. It wasn't rugby. Let's | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
face the facts. You have got to have an offside line to play the game. | :15:36. | :15:39. | |
Italy was smart and congratulations to their coaching staff and the | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
players. They executed that plan brilliantly but it wasn't rugby. If | :15:44. | :15:47. | |
I was the BBC I would be asking the RFU for their money back because it | :15:48. | :15:53. | |
wasn't a rugby game. We should go out and train them in rugby. Say | :15:54. | :15:55. | |
what you really think! Thank you. We're going to talk about school | :15:56. | :16:01. | |
funding. School funding in England | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
is tighter than at any time That's the view of independent | :16:06. | :16:08. | |
watchdog the Institute It has looked at education funding | :16:09. | :16:11. | |
across the last 30 years and it predicts significant cuts | :16:12. | :16:17. | |
in pupil spending. Further education, sixth | :16:18. | :16:18. | |
forms and colleges, Well, according to the IFS, | :16:19. | :16:20. | |
spending per pupil generally is set It's the biggest drop | :16:21. | :16:28. | |
in more than 30 years. In recent times, the big winner has | :16:29. | :16:36. | |
been early years education. ?2.3 billion were spent on this | :16:37. | :16:39. | |
on 2015, when back in 1990 While pupil funding will have | :16:40. | :16:42. | |
risen by 70% by 2020. In further education and sixth | :16:43. | :16:49. | |
forms, it hasn't gone The predicted funding cuts have come | :16:50. | :16:51. | |
as a concern to teaching unions who were worried about potentially | :16:52. | :17:07. | |
larger class sizes, schools having to beg parents for funding, | :17:08. | :17:10. | |
and further education course It comes as the Government rolls out | :17:11. | :17:12. | |
a new funding formula to try and make it fairer for schools | :17:13. | :17:18. | |
in more deprived or rural areas. In a moment we'll be | :17:19. | :17:21. | |
asking what the latest figures mean for teachers, | :17:22. | :17:23. | |
parents and politicians, but first let's have a look at those | :17:24. | :17:25. | |
changes in more detail. Jo is mum to two primary school | :17:26. | :18:51. | |
children and founded Fair Funding for all Schools to campaign for more | :18:52. | :18:55. | |
education funding across the board. Adrian Kneeshaw is the headteacher | :18:56. | :19:00. | |
at Carlton Bolling College He says it's hard work | :19:01. | :19:02. | |
balancing his budget. Conservative MP Neil | :19:03. | :19:06. | |
Carmichael is here. He's also the chair | :19:07. | :19:08. | |
of the Education Select Committee. Luke Sibieta wrote the report from | :19:09. | :19:11. | |
the Institute for Fiscal Studies. He says further education has | :19:12. | :19:14. | |
been hit the hardest Jo, are you seeing an impact on your | :19:15. | :19:24. | |
children's primary school already? Yes, we founded this new national | :19:25. | :19:28. | |
parent campaign because parents are very unhappy that the Government | :19:29. | :19:30. | |
isn't keeping to the promises they made to parents. What kind of | :19:31. | :19:35. | |
impacts are you seeing? Well, in the areas where I am, we're seeing class | :19:36. | :19:41. | |
sizes increase. From what to what? Well, the class sizes are at the | :19:42. | :19:46. | |
highest level in a decade. It is not supposed to be over 30 in state | :19:47. | :19:49. | |
schools? And it is in many of our schools and as parents that's | :19:50. | :19:52. | |
unacceptable. I don't think any parent wants to see class sizes | :19:53. | :19:57. | |
increasing, parents want to see class sizes deceasing. The report | :19:58. | :20:02. | |
confirms what a lot of people are saying is that per pupil funding is | :20:03. | :20:05. | |
being cutment we are seeing the biggest cuts to our schools for 30 | :20:06. | :20:08. | |
years, but the Government is in denial about this and in this | :20:09. | :20:12. | |
context they are introducing this new fair funding formula which we | :20:13. | :20:16. | |
agree with the principle of, we support the idea of a new national | :20:17. | :20:20. | |
funding formula, we agree with the need to address historical | :20:21. | :20:24. | |
injustice, but we don't think what is proposed will provide justice to | :20:25. | :20:27. | |
anyone because it is in the context of a pot that's already too small to | :20:28. | :20:32. | |
sustain our schools. Adrian, tell us about the kind of constraints you | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
feel you're facing. How is it impacting your children's education? | :20:37. | :20:40. | |
Well, it is not really impacting too much here, but it is challenging. It | :20:41. | :20:45. | |
has been for a good few years, we have had various cost pressures, | :20:46. | :20:49. | |
national insurance contribution has gone up, introduction of Living | :20:50. | :20:55. | |
Wage, apprenticeship, they add pressures on the school. We have had | :20:56. | :21:01. | |
to over the last two to three years, in maths and English we have an | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
average class size of 15 and we'll retain that. Staff in areas where | :21:07. | :21:10. | |
are deemed non critical had to go unfortunately. What's non critical | :21:11. | :21:18. | |
area? Administration. At one time we had 14 people in the admin team and | :21:19. | :21:23. | |
now we're down to six or seven. OK? We have the resources where it | :21:24. | :21:26. | |
brings the results for the students which in the classroom so the last | :21:27. | :21:32. | |
area I would go to compromise would be increasing class sizes. Let me | :21:33. | :21:37. | |
bring in Luke. You wrote the report. You have no axe to grind. Some | :21:38. | :21:40. | |
things appear to be contradictory, maybe you can explain them. You say | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
funding per pupil st going to fall 6.5% by 2020. The Government says | :21:46. | :21:49. | |
spending is higher in real terms by 70%. So, well, to start with, | :21:50. | :21:57. | |
they're both true. So the cuts to school spending come on the back of | :21:58. | :22:00. | |
a very significant increase in school spending over the 2000s and a | :22:01. | :22:06. | |
bit of an increase in the last Parliament. Spending per head is 70% | :22:07. | :22:12. | |
higher than it was in 1990, but the schools are making the first real | :22:13. | :22:16. | |
terms cuts they have this had to make in 20 years. I imagine there | :22:17. | :22:21. | |
are a few headteachers around today who are going back and trying to | :22:22. | :22:28. | |
find cuts in their budget. So, what falling is the amount of money being | :22:29. | :22:33. | |
spent per pupil? Yes. Because the numbers of children is going up? So | :22:34. | :22:39. | |
the numbers of children are going up by about an 7%, pupils by 2020 as | :22:40. | :22:44. | |
compared with 2015. The spending per pupil that goes into the classroom | :22:45. | :22:49. | |
will be frozen in cash terms, if it is ?5,000, it will be ?5,000 per | :22:50. | :22:53. | |
pupil in 2020, but they are not providing money for the cost of | :22:54. | :22:57. | |
inflation. So the extra national insurance contributions and the | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
extra pension contributions and the costs of teacher pay, that's not | :23:02. | :23:05. | |
going to schools. Neil Carmichael, do you accept that budgets are | :23:06. | :23:08. | |
becoming more stretched for primary school pupils and secondary school | :23:09. | :23:12. | |
pupils? Overall the budgets are tight because we've got a deficit of | :23:13. | :23:16. | |
?60 billion each year to deal with, so it is true no big promises can be | :23:17. | :23:21. | |
made to expand the budget, but within the budget I do think we need | :23:22. | :23:27. | |
to be more sensible about the way in which we allocate money, and there | :23:28. | :23:31. | |
are two areas which have done well. One is early years in comparison to | :23:32. | :23:34. | |
the 1990s is different and better. Why would you, sorry to interrupt, | :23:35. | :23:38. | |
Mr Carmichael, as a Conservative MP and chair of the Education Select | :23:39. | :23:44. | |
Committee, why would you want to see funding per pupil falling by 2020? | :23:45. | :23:51. | |
Well, we don't. Well, then you could make different choices, you don't | :23:52. | :23:54. | |
have to spend ?50 billion on HS2 or foreign aid? There are lots of | :23:55. | :23:58. | |
different choices we could make. Why that choice? We need to spend more | :23:59. | :24:02. | |
on education. I'll tell you why. One reason is we have a serious shortage | :24:03. | :24:06. | |
of skills in our economy. If we leave the European Union, which we | :24:07. | :24:10. | |
intend to do... It seems utterly bizarre, doesn't it? I think the key | :24:11. | :24:14. | |
thing is making sure that we spend the money on the right areas. I | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
could think of a few. I've talked about already early years, but let's | :24:19. | :24:21. | |
look at the free school situation for example. The NAO, over leading | :24:22. | :24:26. | |
organisation, has pointed out that we're spending a huge amount of | :24:27. | :24:30. | |
money on building new schools, sometimes according the NAO in the | :24:31. | :24:33. | |
wrong place so we need to think about that. That's about making sure | :24:34. | :24:37. | |
the money that we have, we spend well and that's clearly a thrust of | :24:38. | :24:40. | |
the Education Select Committee. But more important still, is the need to | :24:41. | :24:46. | |
deal with two big challenges. One, is the tail of underachievement in | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
our primary school sector as identified by Sir Michael Wilshere. | :24:52. | :24:55. | |
The former head of Ofsted? It is a serious problem and we have to think | :24:56. | :24:58. | |
carefully. That was identified by him last year. Yes, it was. You have | :24:59. | :25:03. | |
been in power now for how long? Since 2010? Absolutely. It is not a | :25:04. | :25:09. | |
good idea to see spending per pupil fall by 6.5%? We have increased | :25:10. | :25:13. | |
expenditure well. But the numbers of pupils have gone up. Sorry, do the | :25:14. | :25:17. | |
maths. I don't mean to be rude? You're right. That's why in the | :25:18. | :25:21. | |
long-term, we've got to increase expenditure on education. Right. Is | :25:22. | :25:24. | |
Philip Hammond, the Chancellor, going to do that in the Budget which | :25:25. | :25:27. | |
is coming up? I don't think that's going to happen any time soon | :25:28. | :25:31. | |
because as I've already said we've got a ?60 billion deficit, but the | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
warning sign is actually what are we going to do when we leave the | :25:36. | :25:38. | |
European Union and we need to have the skills that we haven't had in | :25:39. | :25:41. | |
the past? Because actually what we've done in the last 30 odd years | :25:42. | :25:45. | |
is getting the skills, get the skills from abroad. Jo, parent, two | :25:46. | :25:49. | |
children in primary school, talk to the Conservative MP. It is late for | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
Neil to say you can't make promises to put more money. You made those | :25:54. | :25:59. | |
promises in your manifesto. You made a promise to protect pupil funding | :26:00. | :26:03. | |
and introduce a new pupil funding. The report out today would suggest | :26:04. | :26:08. | |
you haven't. And I think that you made those promises, you must have | :26:09. | :26:10. | |
thought that you would need to provide the funds to be able to | :26:11. | :26:13. | |
deliver them and as parents what we're saying is please would you now | :26:14. | :26:20. | |
do that because we're not happy with the impact of the cuts to our | :26:21. | :26:24. | |
schools. I haven't read the whole of it, but we've got inflation now and | :26:25. | :26:29. | |
that's having a huge impact on our school budgets. As Adrian pointed | :26:30. | :26:34. | |
out, he is having to think about pensions and other costs like, the | :26:35. | :26:38. | |
Living Wage. All of these are feeding into the system so we have | :26:39. | :26:43. | |
do recalibrate it. All introduced by a Conservative Government? | :26:44. | :26:46. | |
Absolutely. You knew that was coming down the line. Well, who wants to | :26:47. | :26:51. | |
cement in poverty Living Wage is an excellent idea... No one is arguing | :26:52. | :26:55. | |
against the Living Wage, I don't think... No, good. But you knew that | :26:56. | :26:59. | |
was coming so therefore you have to address that with the funding for | :27:00. | :27:02. | |
schools in England, surely? Well, what I'm saying is, I don't think | :27:03. | :27:09. | |
that, the next Budget and it's coming soon is going to be | :27:10. | :27:11. | |
particularly good news if we're asking for a big increase in the | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
total budgetment what I do think is within the medium-term and the | :27:16. | :27:17. | |
long-term, we should be campaigning for that and I am as a Conservative | :27:18. | :27:24. | |
member of Parliament, but whilst we are talking about the budget that | :27:25. | :27:29. | |
we've got, we've got to make sure the money goes to the right places | :27:30. | :27:34. | |
and that's something Jo alluded to earlier. The new funding system is | :27:35. | :27:38. | |
about making sure pup approximatelies wherever they are | :27:39. | :27:41. | |
get a fair slice of the cake and there are some aspects of that, new | :27:42. | :27:44. | |
formula funding system which we need to test. OK, I'm going to leave it | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
there. You know you've got loads more to say and we'll return to this | :27:49. | :27:52. | |
issue. Don't worry about that. Thank you for coming on the programme, | :27:53. | :27:58. | |
Neil Carmichael, he is chair of the Education Select Committee, Luke, Jo | :27:59. | :28:03. | |
Yurky, the mum of two primary school children and thank you, Adrian. | :28:04. | :28:12. | |
If you're seeing an impact on your school, let me know. | :28:13. | :28:16. | |
Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news. | :28:17. | :28:20. | |
Organisers of the Oscars say they are trying to work out how the | :28:21. | :28:28. | |
ceremony ended in chaos. La La Land was mistakenly named as the winner, | :28:29. | :28:33. | |
but it was discovered that the award should have gone to Moonlight. Price | :28:34. | :28:38. | |
water house coopers apologised saying there was a mix-up with the | :28:39. | :28:40. | |
award envelopes. The independent inquiry into child | :28:41. | :28:44. | |
sexual abuse will hold its first public hearings today, | :28:45. | :28:47. | |
more than two and a half years after it was set | :28:48. | :28:49. | |
up by the government. It will begin by examining | :28:50. | :28:51. | |
the mistreatment of British children in care or from poor families | :28:52. | :28:54. | |
who were sent to Australia in the The inquiry will be told | :28:55. | :28:56. | |
that the scale of abuse they suffered was much wider | :28:57. | :29:00. | |
than previously thought. The NHS has mislaid more than half | :29:01. | :29:04. | |
a million items of patients' confidential medical correspondence, | :29:05. | :29:07. | |
including treatment plans The documents, sent between GPs | :29:08. | :29:08. | |
and hospitals over a period of five years, did not | :29:09. | :29:12. | |
reach their recipients because they were mistakenly stored | :29:13. | :29:14. | |
in a warehouse by private company That's a summary of | :29:15. | :29:18. | |
the latest BBC News. Good morning. I'm looking at social | :29:19. | :29:39. | |
media on the Oscars. There is plenty of it! | :29:40. | :29:46. | |
An anonymous e-mail here, "The Oscars, what a farce." Dave says, | :29:47. | :29:52. | |
"Oscars, hilarious. They can't even run their own show." Sean on | :29:53. | :29:58. | |
Facebook, "Please focus on who won, not who didn't." We will bring you a | :29:59. | :30:03. | |
special Oscars programme shortly. Do stay with us. | :30:04. | :30:21. | |
Hello and welcome to our Oscars results programme. | :30:22. | :30:27. | |
It's a ceremony that will only ever be remembered for | :30:28. | :30:29. | |
one massive mistake - now known as envelope-gate | :30:30. | :30:31. | |
as the wrong film is named winner of Best Picture. | :30:32. | :30:33. | |
This is not a joke. Moonlight has won best picture. | :30:34. | :30:56. | |
Total confusion on stage and off as the cast and crew of both films | :30:57. | :31:03. | |
But it was Moonlight, about a boy growing up in Miami | :31:04. | :31:06. | |
to a crack-addicted mother, which in the end took | :31:07. | :31:08. | |
Its director Barry Jenkins gave his reaction. | :31:09. | :31:14. | |
The last 20 minutes of my life have been insane. | :31:15. | :31:17. | |
I don't think my life could be changed any more dramatically. | :31:18. | :31:26. | |
The early favourite to win best picture, La La Land, | :31:27. | :31:28. | |
But in the end the team behind it won six Oscars including | :31:29. | :31:34. | |
Let's go live to Hollywood and our entertainment correspondent | :31:35. | :31:42. | |
Colin Patterson is on the red carpet at the after-show Vanity Fair party. | :31:43. | :31:50. | |
Colin, Colin, Colin what a night. I was listening to you on the radio | :31:51. | :31:57. | |
when it all unfolded. How did it go wrong? There was I having to do | :31:58. | :32:02. | |
radio commentary on the moment and boy, did it go wrong? It couldn't be | :32:03. | :32:07. | |
more wrong! Faye Dunaway reading out La La Land but it all turned into | :32:08. | :32:17. | |
Moonlight. So what did go wrong, Colin? It will tell as in a minute. | :32:18. | :32:22. | |
PricewaterhouseCoopers have just given as a statement which I can | :32:23. | :32:27. | |
read to you. We can seriously apologise to Moonlight, La La Land, | :32:28. | :32:31. | |
Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty and Oscar viewers for the mistake in the | :32:32. | :32:40. | |
announcement. The announcers were given the wrong envelope. We are | :32:41. | :32:46. | |
investigating how this could have happened. We appreciate the grace | :32:47. | :32:51. | |
with which the nominees, the academy, ABC and Jimmy Kimmel | :32:52. | :32:55. | |
handled the situation. I am on the green and white carpet at the Vanity | :32:56. | :32:59. | |
Fair party and it is all anyone here has been talking about. That is an | :33:00. | :33:03. | |
impressive cigar, Sir. You are live on the BBC. Thank you. This is a 24 | :33:04. | :33:09. | |
carat gold cigar and I thought it only appropriate to bring it out on | :33:10. | :33:13. | |
a night like tonight. Guess what, this building is only a building but | :33:14. | :33:18. | |
this moment is everything. Why? Moonlight winning? Moonlight | :33:19. | :33:23. | |
winning. Here is the thing. I love Emma Stone, I love her. But when | :33:24. | :33:31. | |
Moonlight won, and they corrected, it was this type of moment. It was a | :33:32. | :33:37. | |
24 carat gold cigar moment. I thought that transcended John | :33:38. | :33:47. | |
Rhodes, cultures, races, -- genres. And we really get to see what it | :33:48. | :33:51. | |
means to understand the power of view. That is what I am about. Love | :33:52. | :33:55. | |
and peace. I thought Moonlight represented that and I thought it | :33:56. | :33:59. | |
deserved it. I was glad to see that moment. Barry Jenkins is a good | :34:00. | :34:05. | |
friend of mine. I am so proud of what he is doing. Ali is a good | :34:06. | :34:11. | |
friend. Introduce yourself and then we have got to go. My name is Kobe | :34:12. | :34:17. | |
Randolph. I am Gatsby. I will see you in Cannes. We made history | :34:18. | :34:26. | |
tonight. There we go. The Vanity Fair after show party. That is quite | :34:27. | :34:34. | |
a cigar! This is envelope-gate. This is the moment it all went wrong. | :34:35. | :34:39. | |
Moonlight, you guys won best picture. | :34:40. | :35:02. | |
Guys, this is very unfortunate what happened. | :35:03. | :35:31. | |
Personally, I blame Steve Harvey for this! | :35:32. | :35:35. | |
I opened the envelope and it said Emma Stone, La La Land. | :35:36. | :35:50. | |
That's why I took such a long look at Faye and at you, | :35:51. | :35:53. | |
I have to say, and it is true, it's not fake, we've been | :35:54. | :36:03. | |
on the road with these guys for so long and it was so gracious, | :36:04. | :36:06. | |
so generous of them, my love to La La Land, | :36:07. | :36:08. | |
Warren Beatty opened the envelope and then he handed it to Faye | :36:09. | :36:19. | |
Dunaway because he didn't know what to do. We will talk about all the | :36:20. | :36:21. | |
winners in just a moment. was at the Oscars ceremony - | :36:22. | :36:33. | |
inside the Dolby Theatre - because her husband | :36:34. | :36:41. | |
Chris Shaw was nominated for an Oscar for documentary | :36:42. | :36:49. | |
Watani: My Homeland. everyone inside the auditorium | :36:50. | :36:51. | |
reacted to the mistake. Everyone looked at each other | :36:52. | :36:54. | |
and wondered was this some kind of prank because it had been quite | :36:55. | :36:57. | |
a fun Oscars programme, And then he just said | :36:58. | :37:00. | |
to the audience, this is not a joke. And everybody around us | :37:01. | :37:04. | |
gasped with astonishment because they'd never seen anything | :37:05. | :37:06. | |
like that whatsoever. And then after that it was chaos | :37:07. | :37:07. | |
because there was the cast of La La Land on stage and then | :37:08. | :37:10. | |
the people from Moonlight Nobody really knew | :37:11. | :37:13. | |
what had happened. Then Warren Beatty stepped forward | :37:14. | :37:16. | |
and tried to explain. He said that when he had opened | :37:17. | :37:18. | |
the envelope he had started talking rather slowly and he said this | :37:19. | :37:22. | |
wasn't a joke, it was because he had seen what was written there, | :37:23. | :37:24. | |
which was Emma Stone, Clearly the winner of | :37:25. | :37:27. | |
the previous category. He didn't know quite what to do | :37:28. | :37:29. | |
so he handed the envelope very slowly over to Faye Dunaway | :37:30. | :37:32. | |
and she read out La La Land. If you look back on it, | :37:33. | :37:35. | |
not total conviction in her voice when she said it and then | :37:36. | :37:38. | |
they clearly knew something had gone That was one hell of a hospital pass | :37:39. | :37:41. | |
when Warren Beatty handed When everyone was filing out | :37:42. | :37:45. | |
of the Dolby Theatre, obviously that's the only topic | :37:46. | :37:51. | |
of conversation and I gather Ryan Gosling was in the same | :37:52. | :37:54. | |
limo queue as you. I know how strange that sentence | :37:55. | :38:01. | |
is, but he really was. He was waiting for the limo | :38:02. | :38:04. | |
at the same time as we were and I saw him on his phone | :38:05. | :38:07. | |
and I have to say his face, completely understandably, | :38:08. | :38:10. | |
looked like thunder. film, everybody thinking | :38:11. | :38:14. | |
you are going to win, you are up on stage, | :38:15. | :38:19. | |
your moment of glory and then to have it absolutely | :38:20. | :38:22. | |
snatched away from you. I feel sorry for the Moonlight | :38:23. | :38:24. | |
people, as well, because their moment was to a certain extent | :38:25. | :38:29. | |
spoiled as the Oscar was being snatched from one hand | :38:30. | :38:33. | |
to another and then at the side of that chaotic gathering | :38:34. | :38:38. | |
there was poor Faye Dunaway holding hands with one of the other women | :38:39. | :38:40. | |
on the stage obviously horrified at what she had | :38:41. | :38:45. | |
been a part of, as well. Everybody filing out was saying | :38:46. | :38:48. | |
I have never been to an Oscars Confirmation, if confirmation were | :38:49. | :39:05. | |
needed, Moonlight won the academy award for best picture after that La | :39:06. | :39:12. | |
La Land mix-up. Casey Affleck won best actor. | :39:13. | :39:19. | |
That's for his portrayal of Lee Chandler, the grief stricken Janitor | :39:20. | :39:22. | |
Victory for La La Land, this time for Emma Stone as best actress, | :39:23. | :39:27. | |
who played a young woman desperately looking to make her | :39:28. | :39:29. | |
Mahershala Ali won best supporting actor for his role as a drug dealer | :39:30. | :39:33. | |
in Miami in the best picture Moonlight. | :39:34. | :39:35. | |
He's the first Muslim to win the award. | :39:36. | :39:37. | |
Best supporting actress went to Viola Davis | :39:38. | :39:38. | |
for her role in Fences, playing Rose, the wife | :39:39. | :39:40. | |
of Denzel Washington's character Troy Maxson. | :39:41. | :39:42. | |
Damien Chazelle became the youngest ever to win the best director prize | :39:43. | :39:49. | |
for his work on La La Land and finally | :39:50. | :39:51. | |
OJ: Made in America - the film depicting the rise and fall | :39:52. | :39:54. | |
of OJ Simpson from sporting superstar to being at the centre | :39:55. | :39:57. | |
of the most publicised murder trial in history - that won | :39:58. | :40:00. | |
Film critics Jason Solomons and Gaylene Gould are here to talk | :40:01. | :40:03. | |
Good morning first of all. Has a mistake like that ever happened | :40:04. | :40:14. | |
before? Not like that, not at the climax, not for best picture. There | :40:15. | :40:19. | |
was a rumour that many years ago that the best supporting actress for | :40:20. | :40:25. | |
My Cousin Vinny was the wrong price but it has never been proven and it | :40:26. | :40:29. | |
only came out some time later. But that was never proven. What I don't | :40:30. | :40:34. | |
understand last night, what all those envelopes were doing up there. | :40:35. | :40:39. | |
Red envelopes. It is like a Chinese wedding in there! He has one in the | :40:40. | :40:43. | |
background and Warren Beatty is holding another one and the producer | :40:44. | :40:46. | |
has one and then Oscars galore and I think Warren Beatty has still got | :40:47. | :40:51. | |
one! I don't know what he is doing with it. I don't know how that chaos | :40:52. | :40:56. | |
was allowed to happen. Amazing. What is brilliant, the producer for La La | :40:57. | :41:04. | |
Land, Jordan Horrowitz, not just in, that is a composer, it was very | :41:05. | :41:11. | |
important that it came from him. -- not just in. That transition of | :41:12. | :41:16. | |
power. He was the guy who said it isn't a joke and he handed up the | :41:17. | :41:22. | |
envelope. Did the best film when the best picture? Yes, in my opinion. | :41:23. | :41:30. | |
Give us a brief summary of what it is a bad for those who haven't seen | :41:31. | :41:36. | |
it. It is a tiny film and a complete passion project. Barry Jenkins | :41:37. | :41:42. | |
created this project very much based on their very difficult backgrounds | :41:43. | :41:47. | |
in Miami on a housing project, with crack addicted mothers. They created | :41:48. | :41:53. | |
this piece which was supposed to give a sense of grace to their | :41:54. | :41:56. | |
beginnings and it is one man's journey told through three stages of | :41:57. | :42:01. | |
his life as he comes to terms with his own sexuality and sensuality in | :42:02. | :42:05. | |
this very tough environment. It is beautiful and it is tiny and it is | :42:06. | :42:09. | |
perfectly formed. What did you think, Jason? Did the right film | :42:10. | :42:14. | |
when that award? I think it is a ground-breaking baited to win this | :42:15. | :42:19. | |
award and the lowest budget picture ever to win best picture. $4 | :42:20. | :42:23. | |
million, I think, and the numbers change considering the exchange rate | :42:24. | :42:33. | |
and things like that. It is not like Hollywood. It is more like Asian | :42:34. | :42:40. | |
cinema. I was looking at the previous best picture, and I went | :42:41. | :42:47. | |
back to 1969 and Midnight Cowboy to find one that played with cinema so | :42:48. | :42:52. | |
well. On the first all-black cast to win an Oscar. La La Land I loved as | :42:53. | :42:56. | |
well, I have got to say, and they could feel hard done by, but to see | :42:57. | :43:01. | |
them both up that means that Hollywood has a new ways and that | :43:02. | :43:04. | |
wave broke on the stage last night. There is a fresh look in Hollywood | :43:05. | :43:08. | |
and it belongs to the younger generation. La La Land was the | :43:09. | :43:13. | |
favourite to win best picture. It is worth reminding them that 7000 | :43:14. | :43:18. | |
academy award members ranked the nine pictures in the category in | :43:19. | :43:22. | |
order of preference. Why didn't La La Land win? This is a perfect | :43:23. | :43:32. | |
ending to the Oscars for me. This Oscars was always about La La Land | :43:33. | :43:37. | |
versus Moonlight. La La Land is a film about Hollywood and the romance | :43:38. | :43:42. | |
of cinema. That is what normally drives the Hollywood machine. But | :43:43. | :43:46. | |
there was a backlash because of the hype around it, I think? Because of | :43:47. | :43:51. | |
that but also it is a very classic piece of cinema. It is very | :43:52. | :43:56. | |
ambitious but also very classic. The followers of Moonlight came from a | :43:57. | :44:01. | |
very different kind of sensibility. There was always a battle between | :44:02. | :44:05. | |
the two audiences and think it is perfect that they both ended up in | :44:06. | :44:10. | |
stage, in a way. There was this handover between them. For me it was | :44:11. | :44:16. | |
like the old school handing over to a voice. I thought that was really | :44:17. | :44:20. | |
significant, symbolic and beautiful. Both these film-makers are very good | :44:21. | :44:23. | |
friends and they totally shared the journey. But it was this new voice | :44:24. | :44:29. | |
in terms of the audience that came into the room last night and I loved | :44:30. | :44:33. | |
that. La La Land was the early favourite and continued to be the | :44:34. | :44:38. | |
favourite. What happened? I saw it in August at its world premiere at | :44:39. | :44:41. | |
the Venice film festival and I fell in love with it. My jaw dropped. | :44:42. | :44:46. | |
Somebody is doing a musical, how exciting. Playing with the old | :44:47. | :44:51. | |
tropes, a freshness with indie actors, and I loved it. Along the | :44:52. | :44:55. | |
way a backlash started to happen and it is very easy to criticise La La | :44:56. | :44:58. | |
Land for being about why people wandering about in LA drinking | :44:59. | :45:04. | |
coffee and having dreams and having first world problems, to use a | :45:05. | :45:08. | |
hashtag. But with no light, it is very difficult to take against it. | :45:09. | :45:15. | |
It is so political and poetic and steering and about a brutal and | :45:16. | :45:22. | |
tough situation. It was important for gay culture, black culture, | :45:23. | :45:24. | |
voices that haven't been heard before and the timing was just right | :45:25. | :45:29. | |
for it. I wake up yesterday morning thinking that Moonlight could do it | :45:30. | :45:32. | |
and I had already filmed in my own ballot and put La La Land and I | :45:33. | :45:35. | |
crossed it out in the last moment and put Moonlight. I thought I was | :45:36. | :45:39. | |
wrong but in the end I won as well so I was excited. | :45:40. | :45:44. | |
What was second on your ballot? La La Land. Let's talk about best | :45:45. | :45:53. | |
Supporting actor, it is Mahershala Ali as the drug dealer. The sort of | :45:54. | :46:01. | |
drug dealer you never saw, showing such tenderliness and fatherliness. | :46:02. | :46:07. | |
How well deserved is his award? This has become a break-out role for an | :46:08. | :46:12. | |
actor who has a long history of doing stellar pieces of work and | :46:13. | :46:16. | |
we'll talk about the Oscars so white thing. None of these awards have | :46:17. | :46:20. | |
come quickly or easily for a lot of this talent. For lots of audiences | :46:21. | :46:24. | |
it might be the first time they have seen Mahershala Ali. They may have | :46:25. | :46:31. | |
seen him in The Hunger Games or House Of Cards. This is an actor who | :46:32. | :46:36. | |
is at the top of his game being recognised. He was in another Best | :46:37. | :46:43. | |
Picture nominee Hidden Figures. That's right. He is someone who the | :46:44. | :46:48. | |
whole industry is becoming more aware of and audiences and he is an | :46:49. | :46:52. | |
incredibly graceful actor. He is a black Muslim and he lends a really | :46:53. | :46:56. | |
important voice at a time like now which is someone, people listen to | :46:57. | :46:59. | |
Mahershala Ali because he is articulate. He's wise and I think we | :47:00. | :47:05. | |
need that voice in the world. In his acceptance speech, he was pretty | :47:06. | :47:09. | |
low-key. He did say wow and then he went on to thank his teachers | :47:10. | :47:13. | |
through acting school who had talked to him about, it's not about you, | :47:14. | :47:17. | |
it's always about the characters. That's right. That's right. There | :47:18. | :47:21. | |
weren't that many speeches about Donald Trump in the end. People kept | :47:22. | :47:26. | |
it more personal. Let's talk about Viola Davis then. Best Supporting | :47:27. | :47:31. | |
Actress. The third time of asking, but now she is the first black | :47:32. | :47:40. | |
actress to have a tomby and emmy and an Oscar? Now she is the supporting | :47:41. | :47:46. | |
actor for Fences. It is a great performance one opposite of Denzel | :47:47. | :47:50. | |
Washington. Different for the camera. People have found the acting | :47:51. | :47:54. | |
in Fences to be a little big compared to the dial down intimacy | :47:55. | :48:00. | |
of Moonlight. I love listening to August Wilson's words. I loved her | :48:01. | :48:04. | |
performance in it as this very strong woman who comes out of the | :48:05. | :48:10. | |
shadow of this very domineering man. No one else cries like her and gets | :48:11. | :48:18. | |
the snot running down her nose! They don't teach that at RADA. What she | :48:19. | :48:22. | |
has done is seized this opportunity because, I mean, in many senses she | :48:23. | :48:26. | |
is the kind of legal role in this film. Well, she sort of ends up | :48:27. | :48:32. | |
overshadowing him. Yes. She would have had a good chance of winning in | :48:33. | :48:37. | |
the main category as well. There is something interesting when you look | :48:38. | :48:42. | |
at the kind of racial categorizations that people get | :48:43. | :48:45. | |
into. The supporting actors you often find are quite diverse, but | :48:46. | :48:50. | |
often the lead actors, it is like a slightly gated community. I kind of | :48:51. | :49:00. | |
feel the same. I think Hidden Figures should have been on the best | :49:01. | :49:04. | |
Lead Actress Role, but I'm interested in the supporting and the | :49:05. | :49:09. | |
lead actors. There were three actresses of colour in that with | :49:10. | :49:16. | |
Naomi Harris as well and in the main competition, it was Natalie Portman. | :49:17. | :49:21. | |
I think Viola Davis is one of the great actresses now, I think, you | :49:22. | :49:27. | |
know, she is almost like a Meryl Streep figure from now on, if she's | :49:28. | :49:32. | |
in a film, you know, she is nailed on for a nomination. She is so good | :49:33. | :49:39. | |
and her speech was so passionate as well, both of those, Mahershala Ali | :49:40. | :49:44. | |
and Viola Davis' acceptance speeches were personal. They seethed with | :49:45. | :49:49. | |
frustration and achievement and by the delivery of their performances | :49:50. | :49:53. | |
you could sense the anger. There was more anger in the dignity. People | :49:54. | :49:57. | |
will ask if those two awards for example are a reaction, a response | :49:58. | :50:03. | |
to last year's Oscars So White controversy, but actually both these | :50:04. | :50:07. | |
films were in production before that, weren't they? That's the whole | :50:08. | :50:13. | |
myth with that whole thing. Suddenly everything has got woke and now they | :50:14. | :50:18. | |
are ticking the right box. We know Viola Davis has been working for | :50:19. | :50:22. | |
years. There is a long history to make a piece of work like that for | :50:23. | :50:26. | |
the screenment however, I think political pressure clearly has a | :50:27. | :50:31. | |
point in raising the questions. And changes in the academy members as | :50:32. | :50:34. | |
well That's right. That's right. I think those academy members. They | :50:35. | :50:38. | |
are exceptional pieces of work. They wouldn't be up there, if they | :50:39. | :50:42. | |
weren't, but I think there is a another seriousness within which | :50:43. | :50:46. | |
that work gets seen and spoken about because there is this conversation | :50:47. | :50:49. | |
that's happening amongst the audience. I think a few years ago a | :50:50. | :50:55. | |
film like Moonlight might have won an indy spirit award, but to go all | :50:56. | :50:59. | |
the way and steal the biggest moment of all that there is that's a sea | :51:00. | :51:05. | |
change in attitude in the voting body to recognise and see that | :51:06. | :51:10. | |
through and that's exciting. Moonlight is a film we have never | :51:11. | :51:14. | |
seen before in many ways. You needed people to say, "I'm going to vote | :51:15. | :51:17. | |
for this." It needed to be pushed through. I think Moonlight would | :51:18. | :51:21. | |
have done it on its own. This is a film, we were saying earlier, it is | :51:22. | :51:25. | |
a very, it is a film like America, mainstream America, hasn't really | :51:26. | :51:28. | |
seen before. I think it is because it has this increditble weight and | :51:29. | :51:33. | |
power. I think it would have risen up. I think you're right we might | :51:34. | :51:40. | |
not have spoken about it as much. Voters would have thought twice | :51:41. | :51:44. | |
about the politically mat. It may have changed when Donald Trump came | :51:45. | :51:48. | |
in. That may have changed the vote towards it. People are thinking, | :51:49. | :51:53. | |
"I'm going to make a statement in my vote." Let's talk about Casey | :51:54. | :52:02. | |
Affleck winning Best Actor for Manchester By The Sea, he is a grief | :52:03. | :52:07. | |
stricken January for. He goes back to his hometown which he tried to | :52:08. | :52:09. | |
leave behind for various reasons which are explained in the film to | :52:10. | :52:12. | |
look after his nephew after his brother dies. Is he the right winner | :52:13. | :52:19. | |
in this category? Denzel Washington again. It was a strong performance | :52:20. | :52:25. | |
from Casey Affleck. I found the film mannered in its treatment of | :52:26. | :52:31. | |
realism. He got a screenplay award for the writer as well. I didn't | :52:32. | :52:35. | |
fall in love with this film. I found it very frozen. What about his | :52:36. | :52:40. | |
performance? I found it difficult to warm to that performance. He smiles | :52:41. | :52:44. | |
a bit at the end. It didn't really do it for me. Yeah. I feel the same. | :52:45. | :52:55. | |
I love Kenneth Lonagan's work, but I feel the same. I have seen Casey | :52:56. | :52:58. | |
Affleck do this before. I feel like the film doesn't go far enough its | :52:59. | :53:03. | |
exploration of grief. I think it is very good, the actor is brilliant | :53:04. | :53:07. | |
and I don't think this is his Best Film. Right. Let's talk about Emma | :53:08. | :53:15. | |
Stone winning Best Actress and Damien Chazelle winning Best | :53:16. | :53:19. | |
Director. He is 32 for goodness sake! Emma Stone first of all. | :53:20. | :53:25. | |
Correct winner? I think, Hollywood likes to anoint new stars | :53:26. | :53:31. | |
particularly in the female category. They don't go for the tried and the | :53:32. | :53:38. | |
tested. It's a good thing and it's a bad thing. It means that you're used | :53:39. | :53:43. | |
up a bit quickly by the Hollywood machine. Emma Stone worked her | :53:44. | :53:47. | |
career really well. She worked with Woody Allen for a couple of films | :53:48. | :53:51. | |
and that increased her performance. It is a Woody Allen performance. | :53:52. | :53:56. | |
What's amazing about her, she was crippled with shyness and anxiety as | :53:57. | :54:00. | |
a young girl and a way to get over that was to join an acting class and | :54:01. | :54:04. | |
now look at her. Astonishing, what did you think of the way she | :54:05. | :54:09. | |
performed as Mia in La La Land? I'm on the side of the people who went | :54:10. | :54:14. | |
to see the film and went, "What? Really?" So I'm not, I'm not a great | :54:15. | :54:18. | |
lover of the film. I love the ambition of the film. I love the | :54:19. | :54:23. | |
landscape, I'm a huge fan of musicals. I really like Emma Stone. | :54:24. | :54:28. | |
I think this is a light role. I don't think she was given enough to | :54:29. | :54:32. | |
do actually. The role is quite hard. It is difficult. Particularly with | :54:33. | :54:38. | |
Ryan Gosling's, he lost to Casey Affleck who is doing grief. I think | :54:39. | :54:42. | |
light comedy is hard to play and it is hard to win awards with. I think | :54:43. | :54:47. | |
she is adorable and I hope we will see more of her and in a lot of | :54:48. | :54:50. | |
tougher roles and let's see what she is made of. Best Foreign Language | :54:51. | :55:00. | |
film The Salesman Salesman was the winner. The winner was protesting at | :55:01. | :55:11. | |
Donald Trump's travel ban. A statement was read on his behalf | :55:12. | :55:17. | |
saying, "I'm sorry I'm not with you. My absence is out of respect for my | :55:18. | :55:22. | |
country, Iran and those of other nations what are disrespected by the | :55:23. | :55:26. | |
law that bans immigrants to the US." That was one of the most political | :55:27. | :55:29. | |
statements of the evening. What's the film like? Oh, the film is very | :55:30. | :55:37. | |
good. It was a death of a salesman. He's very good at capturing a sort | :55:38. | :55:42. | |
of area of Iranian society that we have never really seen before. | :55:43. | :55:47. | |
Foreigners don't know about at all. It is a sophisticated middle-class | :55:48. | :55:53. | |
Iran. He does Tehran and its middle classes. It I think he is an | :55:54. | :56:03. | |
excellent film-maker. Thank you both very much. | :56:04. | :56:12. | |
Social media was buzzing with news of that Best Picture mistake. Some | :56:13. | :56:19. | |
of the tweets, Billy Crystal tweeted, "He wished election day | :56:20. | :56:24. | |
ended this way." Lots of people drew comparisons with what happened in | :56:25. | :56:27. | |
2015 at the Miss Universe competition. Steve Harvey announced | :56:28. | :56:33. | |
the wrong winner. Miss Universe tweeted maybe they could help. | :56:34. | :56:46. | |
Seth MacFarlane brought it back to politics. | :56:47. | :56:50. | |
An incredible night maybe for the wrong reasons even though it was | :56:51. | :56:55. | |
hilarious to see such incompetence. Thank you for watching this Oscars | :56:56. | :56:57. | |
special. Good morning. | :56:58. | :57:11. | |
Well, we have got quite a mixture of weather today. Our Weather Watchers | :57:12. | :57:18. | |
pictures show that nicely. This one taken in Roybridge. Quite a bit of | :57:19. | :57:23. | |
cloud in Norfolk and windy too. As we head into Greater London, we had | :57:24. | :57:27. | |
a cloudy start. Still cloudy at the moment and we're looking at a | :57:28. | :57:31. | |
showery day. We have got the ex-storm Ewan here. Really just the | :57:32. | :57:35. | |
remnants now. That produced strong winds across the Northern Isles this | :57:36. | :57:38. | |
morning, but it is dragging in colder air and it will remain windy | :57:39. | :57:41. | |
across the south and also the South East. So the cold air coming around | :57:42. | :57:46. | |
that area of low pressure. Filtering through the course of the day, that | :57:47. | :57:50. | |
bit further south. So increasingly, our showers in the south will be | :57:51. | :57:54. | |
wintry especially so with height. This morning, we have got a bit of | :57:55. | :57:58. | |
dry weather across Scotland, but where we have got the showers, some | :57:59. | :58:02. | |
of those are falling as snow in the west. The same too for Northern | :58:03. | :58:07. | |
Ireland. But we've got a plethora of showers crossing England and Wales | :58:08. | :58:10. | |
this morning. Now, for a time, on the hills in Wales and the | :58:11. | :58:14. | |
south-west, they too will be wintry. Into the afternoon, some drier | :58:15. | :58:17. | |
conditions coming in across parts of Scotland, but in the south, we are | :58:18. | :58:21. | |
expecting snow as indeed we are across Northern England. Something | :58:22. | :58:23. | |
to be aware of if you are travelling. Bright skies and showers | :58:24. | :58:27. | |
across Northern Ireland and for England and Wales, there will be a | :58:28. | :58:31. | |
lot of showers crossing again as the cold air cuts in, don't forget some | :58:32. | :58:37. | |
of those will be wintry and some will merge, but some of us will miss | :58:38. | :58:40. | |
them because at the end of the day, they are showers. Through this | :58:41. | :58:45. | |
evening and overnight, we hang on to the showersment still some | :58:46. | :58:48. | |
wintriness in them. There is a greater risk of ice this evening and | :58:49. | :58:52. | |
overnight. The temperatures in towns and cities around about freezing. In | :58:53. | :58:58. | |
the rural parts of the UK, you can expect them to be lower than that. | :58:59. | :59:01. | |
Tomorrow, we lose our front from the South East. But we've got ex-storm | :59:02. | :59:06. | |
Ewan, low pressure by then coming in across the north-west. Windy across | :59:07. | :59:10. | |
the south-western flank and that's going to blow in a lot of showers | :59:11. | :59:13. | |
across Northern England and North Wales. Again with height. Some of | :59:14. | :59:16. | |
those will be of snow, possibly at lower levels we could see sleet. | :59:17. | :59:20. | |
Here is the remnants of the front in the north still producing showers, | :59:21. | :59:26. | |
but in between, some brighter skies, but feeling cold, temperatures | :59:27. | :59:28. | |
between seven and nine Celsius. As we move from Tuesday and into | :59:29. | :59:32. | |
Wednesday, well, there goes our system, moving off into the near | :59:33. | :59:35. | |
Continent, a ridge of high pressure builds in behind and then we've got | :59:36. | :59:39. | |
more fronts coming across Southern England. For many of us on | :59:40. | :59:42. | |
Wednesday, it will be a dry day. You might catch the odd shower, but you | :59:43. | :59:46. | |
can see too we've got the rain moving across the south and by then | :59:47. | :59:49. | |
milder conditions into the south, but still pretty cool in the north. | :59:50. | :59:58. | |
It's Monday. I'm Victoria Derbyshire. | :59:59. | :00:05. | |
The independent inquiry into child sex ulg abuse finally holds its | :00:06. | :00:14. | |
first public hearings. I thought the idea of being flogged | :00:15. | :00:19. | |
in the middle of the night by a sadistic drunken cottage mother with | :00:20. | :00:25. | |
an ironing cord was the norm. This this inquiry is capable of opening | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
some of that truth then that's a good thing. | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
And that inquiry begins at 1030 and we'll bring | :00:34. | :00:35. | |
An Oscars moment to rank among the most infamous in history. | :00:36. | :00:43. | |
La La Land was mistakenly named as best picture. | :00:44. | :00:45. | |
But minutes later the honour was given to Moonlight. | :00:46. | :01:07. | |
Thousands of patients are feared to have been harmed after the NHS | :01:08. | :01:09. | |
mislaid more than half a million pieces of confidential | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
medical correspondence, including cancer test results | :01:13. | :01:13. | |
Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news. | :01:14. | :01:32. | |
The independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in England | :01:33. | :01:34. | |
public hearings today, more than two and a half | :01:35. | :01:38. | |
years after it was set up by the government. | :01:39. | :01:40. | |
It will begin by examining the mistreatment of British children | :01:41. | :01:42. | |
in care or from poor families who were sent to Australia in the | :01:43. | :01:45. | |
The inquiry will be told that the scale of abuse | :01:46. | :01:49. | |
they suffered was much wider than previously thought. | :01:50. | :01:51. | |
Organisers of this year's Oscars say they're still trying to work out how | :01:52. | :01:54. | |
the ceremony ended in chaos, after the wrong film | :01:55. | :01:56. | |
The Hollywood musical La La Land was mistakenly | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
revealed as the winner, but during the acceptance speeches | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
it was discovered the award should have gone to Moonlight, | :02:05. | :02:06. | |
which is a drama about a gay black youth coming to terms | :02:07. | :02:09. | |
The firm that counts the votes, PriceWaterhouseCoopers, | :02:10. | :02:16. | |
has apologised, saying there was a mix-up with | :02:17. | :02:18. | |
The NHS has mislaid more than half a million items of patients' | :02:19. | :02:26. | |
confidential medical correspondence, including treatment plans | :02:27. | :02:27. | |
The documents, sent between GPs and hospitals over a period | :02:28. | :02:31. | |
of five years, did not reach their recipients | :02:32. | :02:33. | |
because they were mistakenly stored in a warehouse by private company | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
The government is facing calls from Conservative MPs to scrap | :02:37. | :02:44. | |
plans to limit access to a key disability benefit. | :02:45. | :02:47. | |
It's thought changes to the rules on who qualifies for | :02:48. | :02:49. | |
the personal independence payment could affect around 160,000 people. | :02:50. | :02:53. | |
It comes as a key aide to Theresa May said | :02:54. | :02:55. | |
were needed to roll back the bizarre decisions of tribunals. | :02:56. | :03:07. | |
The mobile phone company Nokia is bringing back | :03:08. | :03:09. | |
one of its most famous models, the 3310. | :03:10. | :03:11. | |
The company has struggled to compete in the smartphone era, | :03:12. | :03:13. | |
but it hopes there'll be a demand for a simple phone with a battery | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
The handset was first launched in 2000, | :03:18. | :03:20. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :03:21. | :03:25. | |
Thank you. And thank you to you for your messages on the state of your | :03:26. | :03:36. | |
children's schools. We were talking about this at the start of the | :03:37. | :03:39. | |
programme. Some schools with tightened budgets and others getting | :03:40. | :03:42. | |
more money because of changes in the way the government is funding | :03:43. | :03:47. | |
schools in England. Karen says there are more children in schools which | :03:48. | :03:52. | |
now house children to 18 years of age, so I think the increase is not | :03:53. | :03:55. | |
proportionate to the increasing provision. Matt says how about | :03:56. | :03:59. | |
funding all schoolkids fairly instead of giving some far more than | :04:00. | :04:04. | |
the education budget? And Jonathan says the UK education system is a | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
shambles and a mess and it is only our children who will suffer. I am | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
going to home due to my kids once they have finished primary school. | :04:13. | :04:16. | |
Reyes says I know a lot of school funding is wasted. Schools need to | :04:17. | :04:21. | |
be much more careful in the way they set their budgets. I believe schools | :04:22. | :04:27. | |
could still operate efficiently and effectively on less money and pupils | :04:28. | :04:29. | |
could still reach their full potential of the budget is not | :04:30. | :04:34. | |
wasted. Thank you for those and keep getting in touch. You are very | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
welcome, as you know. Text messages are charged at the standard network | :04:39. | :04:43. | |
rate. Jessica is back now with the sport. Starting with football. | :04:44. | :04:46. | |
Manchester United have won their first piece | :04:47. | :04:48. | |
silverware of the season, clinching the EFL Cup after a 3-2 | :04:49. | :04:51. | |
The Saints were the better side for long periods of the game, | :04:52. | :04:55. | |
and in fact they had a goal disallowed early on. | :04:56. | :04:57. | |
Zlatan Ibrahimovic put United 1-0 up. | :04:58. | :05:04. | |
Just after the break, Southampton levelled the game at 2-2 | :05:05. | :05:06. | |
Who else but Ibrahimovic to score the winner | :05:07. | :05:17. | |
It's caused manager Jose Mourniho to call for help from the club's | :05:18. | :05:22. | |
fans, to ensure Ibrahimovic stays another season at the club. | :05:23. | :05:26. | |
I don't beg for players but if needed I think maybe United fans can | :05:27. | :05:39. | |
go to the door of his house and stay there, and stay there all night if | :05:40. | :05:46. | |
needed. I think they will go Fish oil. It is a big disappointment of | :05:47. | :05:52. | |
course. Today, it was a quality game. | :05:53. | :05:59. | |
A third hat trick in 9 games for Tottenham striker Harry Kane | :06:00. | :06:07. | |
helped his side to a 4-0 win over Stoke, and move them up to second | :06:08. | :06:10. | |
Kane completed his treble in just 23 minutes in the first half, | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
as Spurs made it 8 wins in a row at White Hart Lane. | :06:15. | :06:21. | |
It's led manager Pochettino to describe the striker | :06:22. | :06:23. | |
England's rugby union head coach Eddie Jones, | :06:24. | :06:27. | |
never shy of speaking his mind, has criticised Italy's | :06:28. | :06:29. | |
tactics against his side in their Six Nations match. | :06:30. | :06:31. | |
Jones says Italy's decision not to compete | :06:32. | :06:34. | |
England were left bamboozled by Italy's approach, | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
as they slumped to 10-5 down at half time. | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
But five second-half tries ensured England were not left horribly | :06:45. | :06:48. | |
17 wins on the bounce for England, but Jones was not impressed. | :06:49. | :06:57. | |
Well, it wasn't rugby. Let's face the facts. You've got to have an | :06:58. | :07:05. | |
offside line to play the game. Italy was smart and congratulations to | :07:06. | :07:08. | |
their coaching staff and the players, they executed that and | :07:09. | :07:11. | |
played brilliantly but it wasn't rugby. If I was a BBC will be asking | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
the RFU for their money back because you haven't had a rugby game. We | :07:16. | :07:18. | |
will have to go outside and train now so you get some proper rugby. | :07:19. | :07:26. | |
European Championship silver medallist and 2012 | :07:27. | :07:28. | |
Olympian Roberto Pavoni has retired from swimming. | :07:29. | :07:29. | |
He came second in the 400m individual medley in the 2014 | :07:30. | :07:32. | |
European Championships in Berlin, also taking bronze in | :07:33. | :07:34. | |
Pavoni will now take up a career in coaching in the sport. | :07:35. | :07:40. | |
That is all the sport for now and I will be back with the headlines at | :07:41. | :07:46. | |
10:30am. Thank you. Welcome to the programme. | :07:47. | :07:52. | |
The independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in England | :07:53. | :07:55. | |
and Wales is finally about to begin its first | :07:56. | :08:02. | |
public hearings today - in about 20 minutes in fact - | :08:03. | :08:04. | |
two and a half years after it was set up. | :08:05. | :08:07. | |
It is expected to take five years to complete and is a really | :08:08. | :08:10. | |
far-reaching inquiry looking into historic child | :08:11. | :08:11. | |
abuse in institutions like the Catholic Church | :08:12. | :08:13. | |
It begins today with an investigation of the appalling | :08:14. | :08:16. | |
treatment of thousands of British children who were sent to Australia | :08:17. | :08:19. | |
Many were orphans with hopes of a new life. | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
The BBC has been told the inquiry will hear new evidence | :08:25. | :08:27. | |
about the scale of what went on and the claim | :08:28. | :08:30. | |
A key witness in the inquiry will be David Hill, the former head | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
He was sent from Britain to Australia as a child | :08:36. | :08:41. | |
to one of the schools run by the Fairbridge Society, | :08:42. | :08:43. | |
Our correspondent Tom Symonds met him and took him back | :08:44. | :08:49. | |
to the shipping port of Tilbury, where 58 years ago, | :08:50. | :08:51. | |
We arrived here on a bleak April day. | :08:52. | :08:58. | |
And we had never seen anything like it. | :08:59. | :09:07. | |
We had been sold the idea that we were going to the land | :09:08. | :09:10. | |
of milk and honey, that we came from a very poor family, | :09:11. | :09:19. | |
as most of the child migrants did, and up to that point they bought us | :09:20. | :09:27. | |
new wardrobes of clothes, and we were in the state cabin | :09:28. | :09:30. | |
with five-course lunches and six-course dinners. | :09:31. | :09:31. | |
We thought, well, we've signed up for the right scheme. | :09:32. | :09:35. | |
And it wasn't until we reached Sydney that the thud | :09:36. | :09:37. | |
Our lovely wardrobes that we were given here | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
in England were taken from us, and we were issued with hard | :09:42. | :09:44. | |
The kids were all running around midwinter barefoot on the farm. | :09:45. | :09:52. | |
They looked terrible, because the kids cut | :09:53. | :09:54. | |
Those kids would have gone through life with nobody ever putting | :09:55. | :10:01. | |
giving them comfort, and nurturing, and support, and encouragement. | :10:02. | :10:07. | |
They were the most vulnerable, they were the least protected, | :10:08. | :10:10. | |
And lucky of all, most of all, because my mum | :10:11. | :10:15. | |
Those kids never saw their mums again. | :10:16. | :10:17. | |
They thought the idea of being flogged in the middle | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
of the night by a sadistic drunken cottage mother with an ironing | :10:21. | :10:22. | |
What is your estimate of the number of children affected by some | :10:23. | :10:28. | |
I put the figure at over 60% of the kids that went to Fairbridge | :10:29. | :10:34. | |
60%, and I think if you look at the conditions that prevailed | :10:35. | :10:42. | |
in the other child migrant institutions I'd be staggered | :10:43. | :10:45. | |
if the figure isn't equally high, or even higher, in some | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
of the Catholic boys homes in Western Australia. | :10:49. | :10:50. | |
People will say these were different times, | :10:51. | :10:52. | |
we didn't know what we know now about child development, | :10:53. | :10:54. | |
things were not managed well, is that an excuse? | :10:55. | :10:57. | |
If you go back to the 1950s, the British government sent | :10:58. | :11:04. | |
And they report back and the British government, | :11:05. | :11:14. | |
using standards that prevailed in the 1950s, drew up | :11:15. | :11:20. | |
what they called a blacklist and put Fairbridge farm and other child | :11:21. | :11:23. | |
migrant institutions on the blacklist, defined them | :11:24. | :11:24. | |
The British government not only continued to approve | :11:25. | :11:31. | |
children to be sent, but financially | :11:32. | :11:34. | |
I'm surprised how vulnerable it has made me feel. | :11:35. | :11:39. | |
And to happen to the extent that it did. | :11:40. | :11:53. | |
This is an enquiry that has been quite bitterly condemned for failing | :11:54. | :11:56. | |
to do anything in the view of some people for two and a half years. | :11:57. | :11:59. | |
This is the first time it will have public hearings about the subject | :12:00. | :12:03. | |
From my point of view, only good can come of it. | :12:04. | :12:09. | |
It seems to me that the greater the evil, the stronger | :12:10. | :12:18. | |
the conspiracy to keep it a secret and keep it covered up, | :12:19. | :12:25. | |
so if this enquiry is capable of opening some of that truth, | :12:26. | :12:28. | |
It is almost unbelievable, isn't it? We can speak now to Clifford Walsh, | :12:29. | :12:42. | |
who experienced sexual abuse when he was sent from London to live at a | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
Catholic institution in Australia. Margaret Humphreys is also with us, | :12:48. | :12:51. | |
the director of the child migrants trust. She has dedicated her life to | :12:52. | :12:55. | |
reuniting lost migrant children with their families. I know you are about | :12:56. | :12:59. | |
to go into the inquiry, Margaret, so I will talk to you first, if I may? | :13:00. | :13:05. | |
And Clifford I will be with you in a moment. Tell us what work you have | :13:06. | :13:15. | |
done to try to bring these former children back with their families. I | :13:16. | :13:18. | |
would like to state straightaway that these children were not | :13:19. | :13:22. | |
orphans. They had mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters. | :13:23. | :13:27. | |
Over the years that has been part of the myth. They are not orphans. I | :13:28. | :13:33. | |
would like to make that really clear to your viewers. We have spent 30 | :13:34. | :13:39. | |
years bringing child migrants home to meet their mothers, their | :13:40. | :13:41. | |
fathers, their families and communities. In the early days, 25 | :13:42. | :13:48. | |
or 30 years ago, we used to bring one person home at a time. These | :13:49. | :13:54. | |
were former child migrants, some of whom left here when they were four | :13:55. | :14:00. | |
or five years of age. Over the next few weeks we are going to hear the | :14:01. | :14:06. | |
most horrific stories of their times in these residential institutions | :14:07. | :14:15. | |
overseas. Even with orphans, it seems hard to justify this policy | :14:16. | :14:20. | |
back then. But you are saying they were not orphans. So what on earth | :14:21. | :14:31. | |
was the rationale? I think hopefully the inquiry is going to explore this | :14:32. | :14:36. | |
with people and look at the policy, look at what happened to families, | :14:37. | :14:44. | |
to children, and particularly the emphasis on this really important | :14:45. | :14:48. | |
inquiry. It has taken as 30 years to get this inquiry. Some of those | :14:49. | :14:54. | |
questions have got to be answered. I know you have got to go that | :14:55. | :14:57. | |
anything I can ask one more question, if I may. -- but I think I | :14:58. | :15:05. | |
can ask you one more question. Can you give us examples of the cruelty | :15:06. | :15:09. | |
some of these children were subjected to? Perhaps I can answer | :15:10. | :15:14. | |
it best this way. This week we are going to hear from the child | :15:15. | :15:18. | |
migrants. For the first time in the history of child migration. And we | :15:19. | :15:22. | |
have got a long history of treating our children like this. We are going | :15:23. | :15:26. | |
to hear their voices for the first time. And I would just say let's | :15:27. | :15:33. | |
pause and listen to them. Just for a moment. We will get an idea of what | :15:34. | :15:36. | |
happened to them, what happened to their families. It is going to be | :15:37. | :15:42. | |
hard. It is going to be very hard for us to hear it, but we must | :15:43. | :15:46. | |
listen and we must hear it and we must learn the lessons. | :15:47. | :15:55. | |
Clifford Walsh, thank you for joining us from Australia. You're | :15:56. | :16:01. | |
welcome. You were told, I think, Clifford, that your parents were | :16:02. | :16:04. | |
dead, but that wasn't true? No, not at all. I had a mother. My father, | :16:05. | :16:13. | |
of course, died in the war. And I went through life thinking that I | :16:14. | :16:20. | |
had no parents and it wasn't until Margaret Humphreys came on the scene | :16:21. | :16:24. | |
that I found out I still had a mother and I finally met her when I | :16:25. | :16:27. | |
was 50. Wow, you were nine then, when you stepped off the ship from | :16:28. | :16:32. | |
London. That's right. What did you think was going on? Well, I was | :16:33. | :16:40. | |
basically looking forward to it because they made all these | :16:41. | :16:45. | |
wonderful promises of how great things were in Australia. I was a | :16:46. | :16:50. | |
bit naive because someone in England said that in Australia there was 100 | :16:51. | :16:57. | |
sheep for every person so when we got to the wall at Freemantle, I | :16:58. | :17:02. | |
sort of half hoped I'd see 100 sheep waiting for me, but that didn't | :17:03. | :17:10. | |
materialise. I didn't realise they only outnumbered us 100-1. We were | :17:11. | :17:18. | |
sent to two days quarantine. Until this point, I had every faith in | :17:19. | :17:23. | |
adults, but it quickly diminished after that. After I was flogged on | :17:24. | :17:31. | |
the second day I was there because myself and another boy couldn't | :17:32. | :17:38. | |
carry a crowbar three miles in the desired time. It was just too heavy | :17:39. | :17:44. | |
for us. And we were beaten within an inch you are our lives and then he | :17:45. | :17:50. | |
sat us on his knee and said I don't like to hit boys because it hurts | :17:51. | :17:58. | |
me, you know. What a load of rubbish that was because I was sure he | :17:59. | :18:02. | |
enjoyed it. I never saw a man beat children more than he did. This was | :18:03. | :18:09. | |
the Catholic institution... Yes, he was a clishian Brother. And you were | :18:10. | :18:14. | |
also sexually abused at that place as well? At least 30 times. Wow. | :18:15. | :18:22. | |
Five by one person and at least 25 by a person who was in charge of me | :18:23. | :18:30. | |
for a few months. It wasn't until he tried to rape me or half succeeded | :18:31. | :18:36. | |
in raping me and I was screaming and so forth and he put his old fella in | :18:37. | :18:46. | |
my mouth and evak lated and left gurgling and spluttering for 25 | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
minutes that he let me out and I went and I saw the priest in charge, | :18:52. | :18:58. | |
I won't mention his name, and I told him and he then reported it to the | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
principal. The principal called me to his office and he spoke so | :19:04. | :19:07. | |
harshly to me, I thought I was this trouble and I didn't dare say | :19:08. | :19:12. | |
anything about this brother. So I said the priest must have | :19:13. | :19:15. | |
misunderstood what I said and that was the end of that. I was let go | :19:16. | :19:23. | |
mercifully because I thought I was in for another sound thrashing and | :19:24. | :19:28. | |
because I opened my mouth I was shipped off. Can I ask you Clifford, | :19:29. | :19:35. | |
I mean such horrors perpetrated against you as a boy. What impact | :19:36. | :19:40. | |
does that have on you as you're growing up into adult life? Well, | :19:41. | :19:46. | |
for the first 11 years, I joined the Navy and I was very much a loner. I | :19:47. | :19:51. | |
wouldn't trust anybody. And even, even when I got married, I didn't | :19:52. | :19:56. | |
like anybody to touch me, no one to put their arms around me, no one. | :19:57. | :20:02. | |
Male for female and that goes, that still continues today. I don't want | :20:03. | :20:07. | |
anybody to touch me. I don't know how I imagined to have children | :20:08. | :20:11. | |
because I didn't even like my wife to sit next to me and I love her | :20:12. | :20:18. | |
dearly. It's a scandal that this independent inquiry into child sex | :20:19. | :20:22. | |
abuse is going to explore and investigate. Do you think that 60 | :20:23. | :20:28. | |
years on, it can get to the heart of why this decision was made to send | :20:29. | :20:33. | |
thousands of British children abroad? Well, it's got to come out | :20:34. | :20:43. | |
because we must see that this can never happen because in the 80s they | :20:44. | :20:47. | |
sent convicts out to Australia, but we didn't steal anything. We didn't | :20:48. | :20:51. | |
commit any crime. Yet we were dumped in a hell that I honestly think was | :20:52. | :20:56. | |
worse on the convicts had. Clifford, thank you very much for | :20:57. | :21:00. | |
talking to us. We appreciate your time and your openness, thank you. | :21:01. | :21:05. | |
You're welcome. Thank you very much, Clifford Walsh. | :21:06. | :21:13. | |
And we will bring you the start of the abuse inquiry at 10.30am. | :21:14. | :21:18. | |
All these British children were isn't abroad for a better life is | :21:19. | :21:24. | |
because some of the former child migrants are nearing the end of | :21:25. | :21:28. | |
their life which is why they're starting the child sex abuse inquiry | :21:29. | :21:33. | |
with this area. We'll bring you the proceedings live just after 10.30am. | :21:34. | :21:42. | |
We'll go back to LA and talk about the mess-up and look at other | :21:43. | :21:44. | |
notorious mix-ups. Is it an insult to disabled people | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
to suggest that those who are, quote, taking pills at home | :21:50. | :21:52. | |
who suffer from anxiety are not, The words were uttered by the head | :21:53. | :21:58. | |
of Theresa May's policy board At issue is who in future should | :21:59. | :22:03. | |
such receive benefits. Benefits tribunals have ruled that | :22:04. | :22:12. | |
ministers should extend the scope of the new personal independence | :22:13. | :22:14. | |
payments to another 160,000 people They are facing a backlash and it is | :22:15. | :22:36. | |
not the first time this Government got into difficulties and suffered | :22:37. | :22:42. | |
grief over curbs to disability benefits. You think about the last | :22:43. | :22:47. | |
Budget of George Osborne when he tried to push through cuts to | :22:48. | :22:50. | |
personal independence payments and Iain Duncan Smith resigned from the | :22:51. | :22:54. | |
Cabinet. It was almost the start of the unravelling of the | :22:55. | :22:57. | |
Cameron-Osborne Government. Well, now there is another head of steam | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
building up following this court ruling which in effect means many, | :23:02. | :23:05. | |
many more people will be able to claim personal independence payments | :23:06. | :23:09. | |
becausically, extending it to people who have mental health issues, | :23:10. | :23:12. | |
people who suffer from dementia or who suffered a stroke or are | :23:13. | :23:16. | |
suffering from schizophrenia and the Government have reacted basically by | :23:17. | :23:20. | |
saying we cannot afford this. It's going to cost nearly ?4 billion by | :23:21. | :23:26. | |
2022 and they sthuk out an announcement saying they were | :23:27. | :23:29. | |
reversing this court ruling. On Thursday, on Friday, on the day of | :23:30. | :23:33. | |
the by-election results when all of us were looking elsewhere, we | :23:34. | :23:36. | |
weren't focussed on this. That has added to the grief and let me read | :23:37. | :23:42. | |
this. This is from the oldest Conservative think-tank the Bow | :23:43. | :23:45. | |
Group, they said, "This is the behaviour that gives the | :23:46. | :23:48. | |
Conservative Party a bad name, attacking the most in need and | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
kicking people when they're down." This morning Heidi Allen had this | :23:53. | :23:57. | |
message for the disabilities minister. If I was in her shoes I | :23:58. | :24:04. | |
would, I think, take the financial hit, say OK, we need to accept this. | :24:05. | :24:07. | |
Now, let's really look at this policy which is something that needs | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
it happen anyway and just review the whole thing from top to bottom and I | :24:12. | :24:15. | |
think in the end if we did that, we'd work hand-in-hand with | :24:16. | :24:18. | |
charities and people who were disabled because they would know | :24:19. | :24:22. | |
we're trying to build a system that works. What added fuel to the fire | :24:23. | :24:27. | |
is the comments by George Freeman who is Mrs May's head of her policy | :24:28. | :24:31. | |
unit. So he is, if you like, her big brains. And over the weekend, he | :24:32. | :24:38. | |
said that the court rulings were bizarre, these were just tweaks to | :24:39. | :24:44. | |
the system, but the most incendiary remarks was when he suggested these | :24:45. | :24:49. | |
people who would get PIPs were not really disabled, they were just | :24:50. | :24:51. | |
people taking pills to help them cope with anxiety. Listen to what he | :24:52. | :24:56. | |
said. Look, the truth on the disability budget is we spend ?50 | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
billion a year on disability benefits and what we're trying to | :25:01. | :25:03. | |
make sure is we get them to the right people who are most in need. | :25:04. | :25:08. | |
He didn't mention these tweaks are actually to do with rolling back | :25:09. | :25:14. | |
some bizarre decisions through the tribunals which means that benefits | :25:15. | :25:17. | |
are given to people who take pills at home. We want to make sure we get | :25:18. | :25:22. | |
the money to the really disabled people who need it. He put out a | :25:23. | :25:27. | |
tweet. He says, "Having suffered myself as a child from childhood | :25:28. | :25:33. | |
anxiety and depression, I don't need any lectures on the damage anxiety | :25:34. | :25:43. | |
does." Well, what gives this more resonance, Theresa May made mental | :25:44. | :25:46. | |
health one of her cornerstone issues, remember that speech saying | :25:47. | :25:49. | |
she wanted to end the stigma attached to mental health. Here is a | :25:50. | :25:55. | |
reminder of what she said. This is a historic opportunity to right a | :25:56. | :25:59. | |
wrong and give people deserving of compassion and support the attention | :26:00. | :26:03. | |
and treatment they deserve. And for all of us to change the way we view | :26:04. | :26:08. | |
mental illness so striving to improve mental well-being is seen as | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
just as natural, positive and good as striving to improve our physical | :26:13. | :26:15. | |
well-being. Not that long ago. We've got the | :26:16. | :26:20. | |
Budget on the horizon. Any chance of it, things being changed before | :26:21. | :26:24. | |
then? Well, it's possible because let's be honest, it has happened | :26:25. | :26:28. | |
before. You think of George Osborne backing down over personal | :26:29. | :26:31. | |
independence payments and tax credits so it has happened before. | :26:32. | :26:34. | |
They won't want to back doub, but I think they're in a real jam here | :26:35. | :26:37. | |
because the disability charities are up in arms because they say look, if | :26:38. | :26:43. | |
you suffer from say dementia, you can have as profound problems out | :26:44. | :26:48. | |
and about as if you are blind. So why shouldn't they get this benefit? | :26:49. | :26:53. | |
More than that, the disability tribunals, they went through the | :26:54. | :26:58. | |
cases in real detail and you know, we clearly know increasingly the | :26:59. | :27:01. | |
difficulties people have with mental health issues. So they're under | :27:02. | :27:05. | |
pressure, not just politically, but from the mental health charities and | :27:06. | :27:09. | |
the last thing to say is the Government, before they announced | :27:10. | :27:12. | |
they were going to try and rewrite the rules without anyone noticing, | :27:13. | :27:17. | |
they didn't consult anyone, they didn't consult Parliament or the | :27:18. | :27:20. | |
disclaket charities and they tried to sneak it out, for that and for Mr | :27:21. | :27:26. | |
Freeman's comments, there is a real backlash building up. Thank you, | :27:27. | :27:28. | |
Norman. If you are somebody who takes pills | :27:29. | :27:37. | |
at home for anxiety, get in touch with me. We'd like to get in touch | :27:38. | :27:40. | |
with you. The NHS has mislaid more than half | :27:41. | :27:44. | |
a million items of patients' confidential medical correspondence, | :27:45. | :27:47. | |
including treatment plans The documents, sent between GPs | :27:48. | :27:49. | |
and hospitals over a period of five years, did not | :27:50. | :27:52. | |
reach their recipients because they were mistakenly stored | :27:53. | :27:55. | |
in a warehouse by private company So, where are they? Well, Victoria, | :27:56. | :28:11. | |
NHS England say they have tracked down all these letters now. This was | :28:12. | :28:15. | |
over a period of five years from 2011 to 2016. They were 500,000 | :28:16. | :28:20. | |
items of correspondence, spent from hospitals to GPs, telling the GP | :28:21. | :28:24. | |
about where the patient's treatment had got to and what needed to be | :28:25. | :28:28. | |
followed up. They were items which couldn't get to the GP surgery | :28:29. | :28:31. | |
because they were sent back because the patient had moved, in most | :28:32. | :28:35. | |
cases, so this firm were brought in to sort of redirect them to get to | :28:36. | :28:39. | |
the proper Distin nation where the patient was. The trouble is they | :28:40. | :28:43. | |
ended up in a warehouse and that's the nub of the problem. NHS England | :28:44. | :28:47. | |
say they have managed to get hold of them all and follow them all up and | :28:48. | :28:55. | |
the 500,000 has boiled down to 2500 patients whose treatment might have | :28:56. | :28:58. | |
been affected because the GP didn't know the full story and quite a few | :28:59. | :29:02. | |
of the 500,000 were fairly routine bits of correspondence, but it does | :29:03. | :29:06. | |
raise a lot of questions about whether the 200 or more have been | :29:07. | :29:10. | |
seriously affected. Right. And when will we know the answer to that? Who | :29:11. | :29:16. | |
is trying to find out how seriously afeted or otherwise? NHS England say | :29:17. | :29:20. | |
there is no evidence that anyone has been affected of those 2500, but | :29:21. | :29:23. | |
they are still pursuing it. Labour are saying we got wind of this last | :29:24. | :29:28. | |
summer, at the very end of the Parliamentary session, the Health | :29:29. | :29:33. | |
Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, put out a brief statement saying there was a | :29:34. | :29:36. | |
problem with redirecting the correspondence, but we weren't told | :29:37. | :29:42. | |
the 500,000. Labour want to know why has it taken so long for this emerge | :29:43. | :29:46. | |
and what was the full story? Why were they in a warehouse and what | :29:47. | :29:48. | |
was going on and Labour are pushing for answers in the House of Commons | :29:49. | :29:51. | |
so we may yet learn more about this as the day goes on. Thank you very | :29:52. | :29:53. | |
much, Hugh Pym is our health editor. We will cross live shortly to the | :29:54. | :30:05. | |
beginning of the public hearings into the inquiry into child sex | :30:06. | :30:09. | |
abuse. Glyn says, "I have to say I'm fed-up | :30:10. | :30:13. | |
as a disabled person being picked on by the Government. They simply have | :30:14. | :30:17. | |
no idea what they're doing to us. I can't help being disabled and I | :30:18. | :30:22. | |
didn't ask to be like this, but to be targeted by the Government is | :30:23. | :30:27. | |
appalling. It makes me worry about any cuts which has an impact on me | :30:28. | :30:29. | |
and makes my condition worse." Theindependent inquiry into child | :30:30. | :30:47. | |
sexual abuse in England and Wales is holding its first public hearings | :30:48. | :30:49. | |
today, more than two and a half It'll begin by examining | :30:50. | :30:52. | |
the appalling mistreatment of British children many | :30:53. | :30:57. | |
whom were orphans or from poor families, who were sent | :30:58. | :31:00. | |
to Australia in the years The inquiry will be told | :31:01. | :31:02. | |
that the scale of abuse they suffered was much wider | :31:03. | :31:06. | |
than previously thought. Organisers of this year's Oscars say | :31:07. | :31:09. | |
they're still trying to work out how the ceremony ended in chaos, | :31:10. | :31:12. | |
after the wrong film The Hollywood musical | :31:13. | :31:15. | |
La La Land was mistakenly revealed as the winner, | :31:16. | :31:17. | |
but during the acceptance speeches it was discovered the award should | :31:18. | :31:20. | |
have gone to Moonlight, which is a drama about a gay black | :31:21. | :31:22. | |
youth coming to terms The firm that counts the votes, | :31:23. | :31:25. | |
PriceWaterhouseCoopers, has apologised, saying | :31:26. | :31:34. | |
there was a mix-up with The NHS has mislaid more than half | :31:35. | :31:36. | |
a million items of patients' confidential medical correspondence, | :31:37. | :31:40. | |
including treatment plans The government is facing calls | :31:41. | :31:46. | |
from Conservative MPs to scrap plans to limit access | :31:47. | :31:49. | |
to a key disability benefit. It's thought changes to the rules | :31:50. | :31:51. | |
on who qualifies for the personal independence payment | :31:52. | :31:53. | |
could affect around 160,000 people. It comes as a key aide | :31:54. | :31:55. | |
to Theresa May said were needed to roll back the bizarre | :31:56. | :31:57. | |
decisions of tribunals. That's a summary of the latest | :31:58. | :32:01. | |
news, join me for BBC Here's Jessica again now | :32:02. | :32:04. | |
with the sports headlines. Manchester United have picked | :32:05. | :32:07. | |
up their first piece of silverware of the season by beating Southampton | :32:08. | :32:09. | |
to win the EFL Cup. Manager Jose Mourinho has called | :32:10. | :32:12. | |
on fans to camp outside Zlatan Ibrahimovic's house to ensure | :32:13. | :32:14. | |
he stays another season at the club after the striker scored | :32:15. | :32:17. | |
the winner in the 87th minute A third hat trick in nine games | :32:18. | :32:19. | |
for Tottenham striker Harry Kane helped Spurs to a 4-0 win over Stoke | :32:20. | :32:25. | |
that moves them up to second And England head coach Eddie Jones | :32:26. | :32:29. | |
has criticised Italy for their tactics in yesterday's | :32:30. | :32:32. | |
Six Nations match. England came back from 10-5 down, | :32:33. | :32:36. | |
to win 36-15 at Twickenham. A chaotic night at the Oscars. This | :32:37. | :33:03. | |
was the moment Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty made the wrong | :33:04. | :33:05. | |
announcement when they were given the wrong envelope. | :33:06. | :33:12. | |
Moonlight, you guys won best picture. | :33:13. | :33:36. | |
I'm afraid they read the wrong thing. This is not a joke. Moonlight | :33:37. | :33:50. | |
has won best picture. Moonlight, best picture. | :33:51. | :33:55. | |
Let's go live to LA now and we can talk to Sandro Monetti, a British | :33:56. | :34:07. | |
The inquest is beginning. The mother of all mix-ups. Rain has been | :34:08. | :34:17. | |
accepted by PricewaterhouseCoopers, who for 83 years have tabulated the | :34:18. | :34:23. | |
results and prepared the envelopes. -- blame has been accepted. Don't | :34:24. | :34:31. | |
bet on getting another year, PwC! Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty were | :34:32. | :34:34. | |
handed the wrong envelope. There are duplicates backstage and they had | :34:35. | :34:37. | |
been handed the envelope for best actress, which was Emma Stone, La La | :34:38. | :34:42. | |
Land. Warren Beatty seems to realise the mistake and Faye Dunaway looks | :34:43. | :34:46. | |
over, sees La La Land, calls it out, and she has disappeared and has not | :34:47. | :34:55. | |
been seen since and she wouldn't comment at the after party. Now | :34:56. | :34:56. | |
there is a lot of finger-pointing. And whoever mixed up the envelopes, | :34:57. | :35:01. | |
I don't fancy their future employment chances! But it means he | :35:02. | :35:06. | |
will never ever forget who won best picture at this year's Oscars | :35:07. | :35:09. | |
ceremony. Some people can't even remember who won last year! And | :35:10. | :35:15. | |
Jordan Horrowitz, the producer of La La Land, who took charge of the | :35:16. | :35:19. | |
whole thing, maybe he should produce the Oscars next year because he | :35:20. | :35:23. | |
seems to know what he is doing! He rescued it and handed it to | :35:24. | :35:26. | |
Moonlight. I thought I had seen it all covering Hollywood but this was | :35:27. | :35:32. | |
a first. What a total fiasco. The Oscars are hugely enjoyable and now | :35:33. | :35:35. | |
they are covered in huge embarrassment. What a mess but what | :35:36. | :35:43. | |
a laugh! We will probably interrupted our conversation as we | :35:44. | :35:46. | |
go to a live event here in the UK. Why do you think Warren Beatty just | :35:47. | :35:50. | |
handed that envelope to Faye Dunaway instead of saying, hang on, this | :35:51. | :35:55. | |
isn't right? And conferring with the host, Jimmy Kimmel? He knew there | :35:56. | :35:59. | |
was an issue so why didn't he say something? They were celebrating the | :36:00. | :36:08. | |
50th anniversary of Bonnie and Clyde. They are still causing chaos | :36:09. | :36:13. | |
50 years later obviously. Who knows? That is the big question. What was | :36:14. | :36:19. | |
going on in Warren Beatty's mind? He is being destroyed on social media. | :36:20. | :36:23. | |
Faye Dunaway was the one who read it out, not him, but he explained that | :36:24. | :36:30. | |
he had that momentary pause... We have got to interrupted. Thank you | :36:31. | :36:36. | |
very much. We are pausing there to go live to the inquiry, the | :36:37. | :36:40. | |
Independent inquiry into child sex abuse, which is just about to begin. | :36:41. | :36:50. | |
This is the chair. Finishing next Friday, the 10th of March, 2017. The | :36:51. | :36:57. | |
case study into child migration programmes is a part of the | :36:58. | :37:01. | |
inquiry's wide investigation into institutional failures in connection | :37:02. | :37:09. | |
with the abuse of children outside of the United Kingdom. This is an | :37:10. | :37:12. | |
important day for the work of the inquiry and for the core | :37:13. | :37:16. | |
participants and witnesses taking part in this case study. Today marks | :37:17. | :37:23. | |
not only the first day of this hearing on child migration | :37:24. | :37:26. | |
programmes, but the opening of the first public hearing in which the | :37:27. | :37:33. | |
inquiry will hear live and read evidence from complainants and their | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
experiences of sexual abuse. As you all know, the task of the chair and | :37:38. | :37:44. | |
panel of the inquiry is to examine the extent to which public and | :37:45. | :37:49. | |
private institutions in England and Wales have failed to protect | :37:50. | :37:54. | |
children from sexual abuse in the past and for us to make meaningful | :37:55. | :37:57. | |
recommendations to keep children safe today and in the future. The | :37:58. | :38:03. | |
definition and scope of this case study was published on the inquiry | :38:04. | :38:12. | |
website in May 20 16. To fulfil our task, the inquiry will hold two | :38:13. | :38:17. | |
hearings in the child migration case study during 2017. This hearing, | :38:18. | :38:24. | |
known as the part one hearing, will provide an introduction to the | :38:25. | :38:29. | |
history of the child migration programmes and the institutions | :38:30. | :38:31. | |
involved and the nature of the allegations of sexual abuse that | :38:32. | :38:35. | |
have been made by former child migrants. The part two hearings will | :38:36. | :38:44. | |
commence on the 10th of July 2017 and will focus on whether | :38:45. | :38:49. | |
institutions based in England and Wales took sufficient care to | :38:50. | :38:54. | |
protect children in the migration programmes and the response of those | :38:55. | :38:57. | |
institutions to the alleged sexual abuse of child migrants. The | :38:58. | :39:04. | |
inquiry's broader programme of work was published in its December 2016 | :39:05. | :39:11. | |
report. The two hearings in the child migration case study are part | :39:12. | :39:15. | |
of a full timetable of substantive hearings and seminars and a number | :39:16. | :39:22. | |
of investigations which will be held in 2017 and into 2018. As part of | :39:23. | :39:31. | |
this case study, as in all investigations, the inquiry | :39:32. | :39:34. | |
continues to receive and review very large volumes of evidence relating | :39:35. | :39:38. | |
to sexual abuse and institutional responses to it. And you will hear | :39:39. | :39:42. | |
more detail on the evidence shortly from counsel. To all the core | :39:43. | :39:49. | |
participants and their legal teams, we thank you for the hard work you | :39:50. | :39:52. | |
have done in preparing for this hearing. And for the ongoing work | :39:53. | :39:59. | |
involved in this case study. To the former child migrants who will give | :40:00. | :40:02. | |
evidence before the inquiry during these hearings, and to those who | :40:03. | :40:07. | |
have given written testimony, we are grateful for your courage in coming | :40:08. | :40:13. | |
forward to be a witness. We are conscious of the great challenges | :40:14. | :40:17. | |
that many of you have encountered as a result of your experiences as | :40:18. | :40:25. | |
children. I want to ensure you of the high priority the inquiry places | :40:26. | :40:28. | |
on case study and on hearing your experiences. We thank those of you | :40:29. | :40:34. | |
who have travelled long distances in order to testify before us. I would | :40:35. | :40:41. | |
now like to introduce the core participants and where appropriate | :40:42. | :40:45. | |
their representatives as follows. Counsel for the child migrants | :40:46. | :40:56. | |
trust. Counsel for the participant Oliver Cosgrove, Mr Imran Khan. Core | :40:57. | :41:09. | |
participant Mr David Hill. Counsel for Barnardos, Mr Stephen Ford QC. | :41:10. | :41:14. | |
Counsel for the sisters of Nazareth, Mr Bilal Croat. Counsel for the | :41:15. | :41:26. | |
Catholic counsel, Kate gathered QC. Counsel for the Secretary of State | :41:27. | :41:32. | |
for Health, Samantha Lewthwaite QC. Good morning to everybody and | :41:33. | :41:37. | |
welcome to this hearing. Before we hear from counsel, a couple of | :41:38. | :41:42. | |
points on practical arrangements. We will sit each day from 10:30am | :41:43. | :41:47. | |
except on the days we are hearing evidence by video link from the east | :41:48. | :41:52. | |
coast of Australia. Then we will start early at 8am. Those days are | :41:53. | :41:59. | |
day six, the 7th of March, and day seven, the 8th of March. Ordinarily, | :42:00. | :42:06. | |
we will take a 15 minute break at around 11:45am. On days when we are | :42:07. | :42:12. | |
sitting early, we may take an early break during the morning. We will | :42:13. | :42:17. | |
break for lunch at one o'clock, returning at 2 o'clock. We intend to | :42:18. | :42:24. | |
sit until around 4 o'clock each day. By way of an agenda, we rely on the | :42:25. | :42:29. | |
hearing timetable which sets out the order in which witnesses will be | :42:30. | :42:35. | |
called. The hearing transcript is recorded simultaneously on screens | :42:36. | :42:39. | |
throughout the room and will be published at the end of each date on | :42:40. | :42:47. | |
the inquiry website. Any directions arising from the day's hearing will | :42:48. | :42:51. | |
also be published on the website. As you will hear in more detail from | :42:52. | :42:56. | |
counsel, there are anonymity arrangements in place for witnesses. | :42:57. | :43:02. | |
Ciphering and reductions have also been used in relation to the | :43:03. | :43:05. | |
evidence in accordance with the inquiry's redaction protocol and | :43:06. | :43:10. | |
restriction order, both of which are available on the website. If there | :43:11. | :43:15. | |
is any inadvertent breach of a restriction order, I would ask that | :43:16. | :43:19. | |
the simultaneous recording be stopped momentarily so that the | :43:20. | :43:21. | |
issue can be addressed as appropriate. I now invite leading | :43:22. | :43:28. | |
counsel to the inquiry in relation to the case study on child migration | :43:29. | :43:33. | |
programmes Henrietta Hild QC to address the panel. Please go ahead. | :43:34. | :43:40. | |
Thank you, chair and members of the panel. I appear to date with junior | :43:41. | :43:49. | |
counsel of this case study, and Paul Davison are also working on this | :43:50. | :43:54. | |
case study but are not present at the case today. Chair, on opening | :43:55. | :43:58. | |
the proceedings of the half of the inquiry I would like to first of all | :43:59. | :44:01. | |
explain the scope and purpose of the case study, secondly provide an | :44:02. | :44:05. | |
overview of the child migration schemes, thirdly summarise the | :44:06. | :44:09. | |
evidence we anticipate he will hear during the case study, and finally | :44:10. | :44:12. | |
remind everybody of some logistical issues in respect of the witnesses. | :44:13. | :44:17. | |
Turning first to the scope and purpose of this case study. This | :44:18. | :44:22. | |
case study, as you have said, is part of the inquiry's protection of | :44:23. | :44:25. | |
children outside the UK investigation. That investigation | :44:26. | :44:30. | |
seeks to explore the extent to which institutions and organisations based | :44:31. | :44:34. | |
in England and Wales have taken seriously their responsibilities to | :44:35. | :44:37. | |
protect older outside of the United Kingdom from sexual abuse. The | :44:38. | :44:42. | |
inquiry has decided to divide that broad investigation into a number of | :44:43. | :44:46. | |
narrow case studies, of which this case study on the child migration | :44:47. | :44:50. | |
programmes is the first. In summary, you and the panel will hear that the | :44:51. | :44:56. | |
child migration programmes were large-scale schemes in which | :44:57. | :45:01. | |
thousands of children, many of them vulnerable, poor, abandoned, | :45:02. | :45:04. | |
illegitimate or in the care of the state, were systematically and | :45:05. | :45:09. | |
permanently migrated to remote parts of the British Empire by various | :45:10. | :45:13. | |
institutions in England and Wales and with the knowledge and approval | :45:14. | :45:16. | |
of the British government. Many allegations of sexual abuse have | :45:17. | :45:17. | |
been made by former child migrants. First whether Government | :45:18. | :45:29. | |
departments, public authorities, private and or charitable | :45:30. | :45:32. | |
institutions based in England and Wales, took sufficient care to | :45:33. | :45:36. | |
protect those children involved in child migration programmes. Second, | :45:37. | :45:40. | |
the extent to which those same bodies were aware or should have | :45:41. | :45:45. | |
been aware of allegations of evidence or evidence of sexual abuse | :45:46. | :45:48. | |
concerning those children. And whether appropriate steps were taken | :45:49. | :45:54. | |
in response. And third, the adequacy of support and repar rations that | :45:55. | :45:58. | |
have been offered to individuals who suffered sexual abuse relating to | :45:59. | :46:01. | |
their inclusion into child migration programmes. As you've indicated | :46:02. | :46:08. | |
chair, the inquiry has recognised seven core participants, the child | :46:09. | :46:20. | |
migrants trust, Oliver cos grove and David Hill, Barnardo's, and the | :46:21. | :46:23. | |
Secretary of State for Health. It is understood chair as you know that | :46:24. | :46:26. | |
the Secretary of State for Health will represent the interests of | :46:27. | :46:30. | |
other Government departments such as the Home Office, the Foreign and | :46:31. | :46:32. | |
Commonwealth Office, and the Department for Education. As you've | :46:33. | :46:38. | |
indicated chair the inquiry seeks to meet its terms of reference by | :46:39. | :46:41. | |
conducting two public hearings in this case study. A part one hearing | :46:42. | :46:45. | |
intended to provide an introduction to the child migration programmes | :46:46. | :46:49. | |
and what previous inquiries have established about the incidents of | :46:50. | :46:53. | |
sexual abuse of child migrants and to hear direct evidence from former | :46:54. | :46:57. | |
child migrants of their experiences. And a part two hearing which will | :46:58. | :47:01. | |
focus on the position of the institutions involved, in | :47:02. | :47:03. | |
particular, what steps they took to protect children, what they knew or | :47:04. | :47:08. | |
should have known of the sexual abuse of child migrants, the | :47:09. | :47:13. | |
adequacy of their responses and the issue of support and repar ration. | :47:14. | :47:17. | |
Today is the first day of that part one hearing. The part two hearing | :47:18. | :47:23. | |
about commence on 10th July 2017. Turning then to an overview of the | :47:24. | :47:30. | |
child migration programmes. Chair, the child migration case study | :47:31. | :47:34. | |
relates to a lengthy episode in child welfare in England and Wales. | :47:35. | :47:38. | |
Child migration programmes achieved a degree of public recognition in | :47:39. | :47:42. | |
2010 when the then Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, issued a formal | :47:43. | :47:46. | |
apology to former child migrants. But there remains little public | :47:47. | :47:52. | |
awareness of the full extept of these programmes, of how they were | :47:53. | :47:56. | |
conducted and their effects on the children subjected to them and | :47:57. | :47:59. | |
particularly of the allegations of sexual abuse related to them. It is | :48:00. | :48:02. | |
estimated that you will hear evidence that over 100,000 British | :48:03. | :48:07. | |
children were sent abroad as subjects of the child migration | :48:08. | :48:10. | |
programmes, mostly to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and what was | :48:11. | :48:14. | |
then southern Rhodesia, modern day Zimbabwe. We anticipate that you | :48:15. | :48:19. | |
will hear that most British child migrants, around 90,000 were sent to | :48:20. | :48:25. | |
Canada between 1869 and 1924. The focus of this case study is the | :48:26. | :48:29. | |
post-war period. But it is recognised that child migration | :48:30. | :48:32. | |
schemes that operated for a lengthy period before then. As to the period | :48:33. | :48:37. | |
after 1945, we anticipated that you will hear from the experts that over | :48:38. | :48:41. | |
3,000 children were sent to Australia, between 1947 and 1965, | :48:42. | :48:46. | |
with a few thereafter until the early 1970s. Around 559 were sent to | :48:47. | :48:56. | |
New Zealand. 329 were September to one institution in Canada, between | :48:57. | :49:02. | |
1935 and 1948 and 276 were sent to southern owe Decemberia between 1946 | :49:03. | :49:10. | |
and 1956. Chair, you'll hear evidence as to the ration nationals, | :49:11. | :49:15. | |
you are likely to hear both British and colonial governments regarded | :49:16. | :49:18. | |
the programmes as carrying the perceived benefits of reducing the | :49:19. | :49:25. | |
cost to the State of maintaining destitute children. Many of the | :49:26. | :49:29. | |
organisations advanced a humanitarian rational, ie they were | :49:30. | :49:33. | |
rescuing children from poor and unsuitable environments and | :49:34. | :49:36. | |
providing them with new and better opportunities overseas. Child | :49:37. | :49:42. | |
migration assisted in populating the empire with white, Anglo-Saxon | :49:43. | :49:47. | |
settlers. It is argued that it met religious concerns about | :49:48. | :49:49. | |
safeguarding children's religious beliefs and it sought to ensure that | :49:50. | :49:53. | |
a particular religious denomination was well represented among the | :49:54. | :49:59. | |
imperial settlers. As to the funding for child migration, you'll hear | :50:00. | :50:03. | |
initially the sceles were funded by a combination of charitable | :50:04. | :50:06. | |
donations and funding from local unions. However, the empire | :50:07. | :50:11. | |
settlement Act of 1922 and those that followed provided that partial | :50:12. | :50:17. | |
public funding was available for any approved migration scheme, whether | :50:18. | :50:20. | |
it was run by the Government or by a voluntary organisation. Additional | :50:21. | :50:26. | |
funding was provided by national and regional governments overseas. | :50:27. | :50:30. | |
According to the available records, chair, children as young as two were | :50:31. | :50:34. | |
migrated under these programmes. We anticipate that you will hear | :50:35. | :50:36. | |
evidence that these children were put on board ships departing from | :50:37. | :50:40. | |
England and Wales, without being given any real understanding of | :50:41. | :50:43. | |
where they were going, what they were doing and why they were being | :50:44. | :50:46. | |
isn't. Many will say they were taken without the consent or the informed | :50:47. | :50:50. | |
consent of their parents or guardians. Many will say that they | :50:51. | :50:53. | |
were wrongly told that they were orphans. Separated from their | :50:54. | :50:57. | |
siblings, and deprived of basic details about their identities. | :50:58. | :51:00. | |
Making it much harder if not impossible to reunite themselves | :51:01. | :51:06. | |
with their families in the future. In the receiving countries, most | :51:07. | :51:09. | |
children were placed in institutions or in farm schools where they | :51:10. | :51:13. | |
provide I had labour and domestic services or with families. In those | :51:14. | :51:18. | |
institutions or schools, child migrants have given evidence that | :51:19. | :51:21. | |
they were frequently subjected to extremely harsh conditions. Hard | :51:22. | :51:25. | |
labour, and physical abuse by those responsible for their welfare. In | :51:26. | :51:30. | |
addition, there are allegation of widespread and systematic sexual | :51:31. | :51:32. | |
abuse taking place in those institutions. Or some of them. Some | :51:33. | :51:40. | |
former child migrants alleged they were subjected to sexual abuse prior | :51:41. | :51:43. | |
to their migration in homes in England and Wales. There is some | :51:44. | :51:48. | |
evidence that you will hear of child migrants being sexually abused | :51:49. | :51:50. | |
during the jurpb which from England and Wales. Others described sexual | :51:51. | :51:55. | |
abuse in work environments to which they were sent. And some have | :51:56. | :51:59. | |
described sexual abuse in holiday placements from the institutions. | :52:00. | :52:06. | |
You're likely to hear chair very emotional accounts of the decades of | :52:07. | :52:10. | |
pain their experiences have caused. In respect of the institutions | :52:11. | :52:14. | |
involved, the UK Government provided partial funding for child migration | :52:15. | :52:19. | |
schemes, approved the residential institutions to receive child | :52:20. | :52:22. | |
migrants and was responsible for consenting to the migration of | :52:23. | :52:24. | |
children sent from local authority care. Local authorities sent a | :52:25. | :52:29. | |
relatively small proportion of children in their care overseas and | :52:30. | :52:33. | |
had no regulatory role or oversight of the children sent by voluntary | :52:34. | :52:37. | |
organisations. Overseas organisations had varying | :52:38. | :52:40. | |
responsibilities for the guardianship, partial funding and | :52:41. | :52:45. | |
monitoring of child migrants. It was voluntary organisations including | :52:46. | :52:48. | |
religious bodies, who oversaw the selection and transportation of many | :52:49. | :52:52. | |
child migrants from their own residential holes or directly from | :52:53. | :52:55. | |
their families the they sometimes worked with organisations to arrange | :52:56. | :53:00. | |
migration. Voluntary organisations also often placed the children in | :53:01. | :53:03. | |
residential homes overseas, that were either part of the same | :53:04. | :53:07. | |
organisation, or an affiliate of it or were part of the same religious | :53:08. | :53:12. | |
denomination. Given the scope of the case study, chair, the inquiry will | :53:13. | :53:16. | |
not consider the role of overseas bodies in child migration in any | :53:17. | :53:21. | |
detail. Say to the extent the same is necessary to understand the | :53:22. | :53:24. | |
roles, responsibilities and response of those institutions based in | :53:25. | :53:29. | |
England and Wales. In terms of the voluntary organisations involved, | :53:30. | :53:32. | |
you will hear evidence from a selection of children, who were | :53:33. | :53:36. | |
migrated overseas by the Fairbridge Society, the Church of England | :53:37. | :53:40. | |
Children's Society, Cornwall County Council, the sisters of Nazareth, | :53:41. | :53:46. | |
Southwark Catholic rescue society, the royal overseas league, the | :53:47. | :53:51. | |
National Children's Home, Father Hudson Society. It has not been | :53:52. | :53:56. | |
possible to identify or call a witness who was migrated by every | :53:57. | :53:59. | |
institution involved in the scheme, but he will hear you will hear from | :54:00. | :54:09. | |
the experts. We anticipate chair that the experts will apine that | :54:10. | :54:12. | |
child migration schemes were never accepted practise of the day, but | :54:13. | :54:16. | |
attracted criticism of their working methods as well as support. That | :54:17. | :54:19. | |
there was increasing concern about the schemes from some parts of the | :54:20. | :54:23. | |
UK Government, in the light of the childcare standards set out in the | :54:24. | :54:27. | |
Curtis Report of 1946 and that these concerns formed part of the reasons | :54:28. | :54:33. | |
why child migration schemes ended. Turning now briefly to the role of | :54:34. | :54:38. | |
other inquiries and investigations. In 1998, the House of Commons Select | :54:39. | :54:42. | |
Committee on health investigated the issue of child migration. It found | :54:43. | :54:47. | |
that the sexual abuse of child migrants in some institutions in | :54:48. | :54:51. | |
Australia was widespread and systematic and to quote the language | :54:52. | :54:55. | |
of their report, exceptionally depraved. The responsibility of some | :54:56. | :54:58. | |
of the receiving institutions for the sexual abuse of children and the | :54:59. | :55:03. | |
adequacy of repar rations to former child migrants are being | :55:04. | :55:07. | |
investigated by the Australian Royal Commission. The Australian | :55:08. | :55:12. | |
commission has carried out three case study investigations into | :55:13. | :55:15. | |
institutions to which British child migrants were sent. It has found | :55:16. | :55:20. | |
that at Salvation Army homes in Queensland and New South Wales it | :55:21. | :55:25. | |
heard graphic and shocking accounts of how boys were treated. There was | :55:26. | :55:32. | |
sex sexual abuse by officers or from employees and from other boys | :55:33. | :55:36. | |
resident in the home from 1956 until the closure of the homes. The | :55:37. | :55:40. | |
Australian Royal Commission found at Christian brothers institutions in | :55:41. | :55:45. | |
Australia, children were isolated, inadequately educated and sexually | :55:46. | :55:53. | |
abused and with regards to St Joseph's orphanage, there was cruel | :55:54. | :55:58. | |
punishment of the children there. Some children had various barriers | :55:59. | :56:03. | |
to reporting sexual abuse and some who did complain were not believed | :56:04. | :56:07. | |
or were punished in. January, the Northern Ireland historical abuse | :56:08. | :56:09. | |
inquiry which investigated children sent from institutions in Northern | :56:10. | :56:13. | |
Ireland to Australia, in the years after World War II, found numerous | :56:14. | :56:17. | |
failures in respect of the Northern Irish Government and various | :56:18. | :56:19. | |
institutions that sent children to Australia. The Scottish child abuse | :56:20. | :56:27. | |
inquiry is also conducting an investigation into child migration. | :56:28. | :56:30. | |
The United Kingdom Government has acknowledged that children in child | :56:31. | :56:34. | |
migration programmes endured the harshest of the conditions, neglect | :56:35. | :56:38. | |
and abuse, but made no specific mention of sexual abuse. To date no | :56:39. | :56:43. | |
public inquiry into the United Kingdom has under taken analysis of | :56:44. | :56:47. | |
allegation of sexual abuse of child migrants and possible failings by | :56:48. | :56:49. | |
institutions based in England and Wales in relation to that abuse. | :56:50. | :56:55. | |
Previous reports and reviews on child migration only considered | :56:56. | :56:59. | |
sexual abuse in a limited way. The present case study therefore, chair, | :57:00. | :57:03. | |
for the first time considers whether the various England and Wales bodies | :57:04. | :57:06. | |
took sufficient care to protect children who were child migrants | :57:07. | :57:10. | |
from sexual abuse and whether after that abuse came to light there has | :57:11. | :57:13. | |
been adequate | :57:14. | :57:14. |