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Hello, it's Friday, it's nine o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling. | :00:08. | :00:09. | |
Britain's top-secret surveillance agency | :00:10. | :00:13. | |
says the idea that it spied on Donald Trump is nonsense. | :00:14. | :00:16. | |
Sean Spicer, the president's press secretary, has backed claims | :00:17. | :00:19. | |
that GCHQ was involved in tapping phones for Barack Obama. | :00:20. | :00:25. | |
He didn't use the NSA, he didn't use the CIA, | :00:26. | :00:27. | |
and he didn't use the Department of Justice. | :00:28. | :00:30. | |
It's the initials for the British intelligence spying agency. | :00:31. | :00:38. | |
So simply, by having two people saying to them, | :00:39. | :00:40. | |
the President needs transcripts of conversations involving | :00:41. | :00:41. | |
Candidate Trump, conversations involving President-elect Trump, | :00:42. | :00:46. | |
he's able to get it, and there's no American fingerprints on it. | :00:47. | :00:50. | |
The Government's too scared to hold a second independence | :00:51. | :00:53. | |
That's what the deputy leader of the SNP Angus Robertson | :00:54. | :01:00. | |
will tell his party's spring conference in Aberdeen later. | :01:01. | :01:02. | |
We'll have the latest on the calls for a second vote on independence. | :01:03. | :01:05. | |
Families with disabled children say they are not getting the help | :01:06. | :01:08. | |
they need to care for them with some saying they get no help at all, | :01:09. | :01:11. | |
and many relying more and more on friends and family. | :01:12. | :01:24. | |
Hello, welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning. | :01:25. | :01:27. | |
Lots to talk to us about today, including if you are a family | :01:28. | :01:31. | |
caring for a disabled child, tell us about your experiences, | :01:32. | :01:33. | |
do you get the help and support you need? | :01:34. | :01:37. | |
Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning, | :01:38. | :01:40. | |
use #VictoriaLIVE, and if you text, you will be charged | :01:41. | :01:43. | |
Our top story today - Britain's surveillance agency, GCHQ, | :01:44. | :01:49. | |
has described claims that it was asked by President Obama | :01:50. | :01:52. | |
to spy on Donald Trump as "utterly ridiculous". | :01:53. | :01:59. | |
It's unusual for the agency to issue public statements, but it says | :02:00. | :02:01. | |
that claims first made on Fox News and repeated by the White House | :02:02. | :02:04. | |
press secretary are "nonsense" and "should be ignored". | :02:05. | :02:06. | |
Our news correspondent Richard Lister is with me. | :02:07. | :02:14. | |
Richard, tell us first of all how it came about that GCHQ was in the | :02:15. | :02:22. | |
frame. I suppose we should go back to the original allegation which | :02:23. | :02:25. | |
came from President Trump, who said on the 4th of March, terrible, just | :02:26. | :02:29. | |
found out Obama had my wires tapped in Trump Tower just before the | :02:30. | :02:34. | |
victory, nothing found,, so immediately, of course, the White | :02:35. | :02:40. | |
House press corps were trying to get to the bottom of this, what evidence | :02:41. | :02:44. | |
was there of any tapping also bailing of the campaign? This was | :02:45. | :02:47. | |
never really and said by the White House, who pointed to various media | :02:48. | :02:53. | |
sources but gave no specifics. -- answered. The Senate intelligence | :02:54. | :02:57. | |
committee said there was no evidence of surveillance, and that was put | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
back to Sean Spicer, and he said the president stood by those claims | :03:02. | :03:06. | |
because, he said, it was reported on Fox News by a commentator, and the | :03:07. | :03:20. | |
report says, sources have told Fox News that President Obama probably | :03:21. | :03:23. | |
used a foreign intelligence service called GCHQ, so that is where GCHQ | :03:24. | :03:30. | |
comes into the frame. They have said this is categorically untrue. They | :03:31. | :03:34. | |
almost never comment about things, they tend to neither confirm nor | :03:35. | :03:38. | |
deny, and really they do not issue statements as a matter of policy, | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
but in this case it is quite categorical, saying, recent | :03:44. | :03:46. | |
allegations made by Andrew Napolitano by GCHQ being asked to | :03:47. | :03:52. | |
conduct wiretapping against the then President-elect nonsense, and it | :03:53. | :03:56. | |
goes on to say they are utterly ridiculous and should be ignored. | :03:57. | :03:57. | |
Thank you, Richard. Annita McVeigh is in the BBC | :03:58. | :03:59. | |
Newsroom with a summary The SNP will today accuse | :04:00. | :04:02. | |
the Government of being too scared to allow a second | :04:03. | :04:06. | |
independence referendum. Deputy leader Angus Robertson | :04:07. | :04:07. | |
will open his party's spring conference by saying | :04:08. | :04:11. | |
the Conservatives have a "desperate desire" | :04:12. | :04:14. | |
to prevent anyone rejecting Brexit. But Theresa May will tell | :04:15. | :04:19. | |
her own party conference in Cardiff that she'll fight to keep what | :04:20. | :04:22. | |
she calls the "precious union". Our Scotland correspondent | :04:23. | :04:26. | |
Lorna Gordon reports. Two leaders, both talking | :04:27. | :04:33. | |
tough in the battle over Scotland's future - | :04:34. | :04:34. | |
Theresa May rejecting a referendum on independence before | :04:35. | :04:37. | |
the UK leaves the EU, Nicola Sturgeon determined | :04:38. | :04:40. | |
it should go ahead, I think it would be completely | :04:41. | :04:46. | |
unacceptable and outrageous, and almost anti-democratic, | :04:47. | :04:53. | |
for a Conservative government with one MP in Scotland to seek | :04:54. | :04:56. | |
to block the democratic will of the Scottish Parliament, | :04:57. | :05:00. | |
and stand in the way of the Scottish people having the right | :05:01. | :05:04. | |
to choose our own future. Ms Sturgeon will use her party | :05:05. | :05:07. | |
conference in Aberdeen to that Downing Street's position | :05:08. | :05:10. | |
is unsustainable. 2,000 party members who will pack | :05:11. | :05:15. | |
this hall later will likely agree. Elsewhere in the Granite City, | :05:16. | :05:20. | |
the views were mixed. Maybe sometime in the future, | :05:21. | :05:24. | |
we can vote on it. Is it next year they're | :05:25. | :05:35. | |
proposing, I don't think... for me, that's not something | :05:36. | :05:38. | |
I'd like to vote on. Although Theresa May says | :05:39. | :05:40. | |
wait until after a deal, the deal is about being taken | :05:41. | :05:43. | |
out of Europe. So I think Nicola Sturgeon has | :05:44. | :05:45. | |
a right to hold that, and I don't think Theresa May has | :05:46. | :05:47. | |
any right to stop her. It has been two years | :05:48. | :05:50. | |
since the people of Scotland first voted on whether to leave | :05:51. | :05:53. | |
the United Kingdom. Both sides are instead focused | :05:54. | :05:55. | |
on trying to persuade people in Scotland that they are right | :05:56. | :05:59. | |
about the timing of any possible Hungary is pressing ahead | :06:00. | :06:02. | |
with the construction of two container camps for asylum-seekers | :06:03. | :06:11. | |
on its border with Serbia, despite a chorus of | :06:12. | :06:14. | |
international criticism. By the end of March, | :06:15. | :06:18. | |
the government plans to keep including families and | :06:19. | :06:21. | |
unaccompanied teenagers. When Hungary says it's taking tough | :06:22. | :06:26. | |
action to stop migration, It is holding these migrants | :06:27. | :06:36. | |
at a detention centre We are allowed to speak | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
to them from the street. We are not terrorists, | :06:42. | :06:46. | |
we are not criminals. This is not a camp, it is a prison. | :06:47. | :06:48. | |
They are treating us like animals. But Hungary sees | :06:49. | :07:02. | |
no reason to back down. This month, the Prime Minister | :07:03. | :07:05. | |
took charge of a new group A new law now gives | :07:06. | :07:12. | |
the government even more power Hungary plans to hold them | :07:13. | :07:16. | |
all in these containers it is setting up next | :07:17. | :07:22. | |
to the border with Serbia. "These are civilised places to live | :07:23. | :07:28. | |
in," the contractor says. "European workers certainly | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
find them acceptable." Hungary says that the migrants | :07:34. | :07:36. | |
to be held in these containers so long as they head in just | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
a single direction - south. They will be free to walk, | :07:40. | :07:48. | |
just a few metres down here and they would cross back | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
into Serbia, away from the EU, These young migrants are stuck | :07:53. | :07:56. | |
on the Serbian side. The rest of the European Union | :07:57. | :08:05. | |
may publicly criticise the actions of Hungary, | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
but quietly Europe may put up with anything that | :08:10. | :08:11. | |
keeps migrants back. The US Secretary of State | :08:12. | :08:20. | |
has said military action against nuclear armed North Korea | :08:21. | :08:23. | |
was an "option on the table". Rex Tillerson made the remarks | :08:24. | :08:25. | |
during a visit to the demilitarised Is said American policy of strategic | :08:26. | :08:30. | |
patience had ended. The UK's biggest ever fine | :08:31. | :08:43. | |
for river pollution The company's admitted | :08:44. | :08:45. | |
to breaching more than a dozen Stretches of water in Oxfordshire | :08:46. | :08:50. | |
and Buckinghamshire were heavily Every secondary school in England | :08:51. | :08:53. | |
could lose the equivalent according to an | :08:54. | :08:59. | |
education think-tank. The Education Policy Institute says | :09:00. | :09:07. | |
schools will see cuts averaging nearly ?300,000 | :09:08. | :09:09. | |
over the next three years. But the Government says funding | :09:10. | :09:11. | |
is at an all-time high Parents and pupils in Nantwich, | :09:12. | :09:15. | |
Cheshire, protesting last month about a lack of funding for their | :09:16. | :09:24. | |
schools compared to other areas. The Government has plans | :09:25. | :09:31. | |
to redistribute funds - it says more fairly - | :09:32. | :09:34. | |
and it says at ?40 billion this year, school funding in England | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
is the highest it has ever been. Despite this, today's report | :09:39. | :09:41. | |
confirms no school will avoid a real-terms cut in budget | :09:42. | :09:44. | |
over the next few years. Schools are facing | :09:45. | :09:50. | |
significant cost pressures. The cost of running the school | :09:51. | :09:54. | |
increases, rising number of students and from local authorities | :09:55. | :09:58. | |
having less money to spend. So whilst the distribution | :09:59. | :10:01. | |
of money might be fairer, there is simply not enough money | :10:02. | :10:03. | |
in the system The Education Policy Institute | :10:04. | :10:05. | |
estimates that by 2020 the average real-terms loss of funding | :10:06. | :10:11. | |
per primary school will be ?74,000, and per secondary school | :10:12. | :10:17. | |
the average cut will be ?291,000. That equates to every primary school | :10:18. | :10:22. | |
losing two teachers, and every secondary school | :10:23. | :10:25. | |
losing six. The Government says | :10:26. | :10:31. | |
it does recognise the pressures schools in England are facing | :10:32. | :10:33. | |
and is helping them to make savings. The Government has placed | :10:34. | :10:36. | |
a temporary restriction on its advertising on YouTube | :10:37. | :10:45. | |
and asked its owner, Google, to explain why adverts are appearing | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
alongside extremist material. The move follows an investigation | :10:49. | :10:54. | |
by the Times which said that rape apologists, | :10:55. | :10:56. | |
anti-Semites and banned hate preachers were receiving payouts | :10:57. | :10:58. | |
from autoplaying government adverts The paper says a number | :10:59. | :11:00. | |
of global brands have also pulled their advertising | :11:01. | :11:07. | |
from the internet giant Indonesia has summoned the British | :11:08. | :11:09. | |
ambassador after a ship operated by a British company | :11:10. | :11:12. | |
ran aground on a coral reef, On 4th March, the 4,290-ton | :11:13. | :11:15. | |
Caledonian Sky hit reefs off an island in Raja Ampat, | :11:16. | :11:26. | |
Papua province, at low tide. The region is famous | :11:27. | :11:29. | |
for its biodiversity and the boat was taking tourists | :11:30. | :11:32. | |
on a bird-watching expedition. The incident has caused outrage | :11:33. | :11:35. | |
in Indonesia and local officials have suggested the captain | :11:36. | :11:37. | |
could face criminal charges. Haddock caught in the west | :11:38. | :11:43. | |
of Scotland and in the North Sea has been taken off a list | :11:44. | :11:46. | |
of sustainable fish to eat. The Marine Conservation Society says | :11:47. | :11:48. | |
stocks declined last year and action is needed to boost | :11:49. | :11:52. | |
the number of breeding-age fish. But the decision's been criticised | :11:53. | :11:54. | |
by Scottish fishermen. got a nasty surprise | :11:55. | :12:01. | |
when their train pulled in. Those waiting at Rhinecliff station | :12:02. | :12:07. | |
were caught in a wave of snow as their train arrived | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
at the station, engulfing those closest | :12:13. | :12:13. | |
to the tracks. The national rail operator Amtrak | :12:14. | :12:15. | |
says no-one was hurt. A video of the episode | :12:16. | :12:17. | |
has been viewed What a start to the morning commute! | :12:18. | :12:34. | |
But is it from me for the moment, more and 9:30. | :12:35. | :12:37. | |
I don't know who I feel more sorry for, the people who were hit by the | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
snow or the driver, who must have got the fright of their life! Some | :12:42. | :12:45. | |
comments from you on help for disabled families caring for | :12:46. | :12:50. | |
disabled people, Anthony on Facebook, once again, the disabled | :12:51. | :12:54. | |
are an easy target for cuts because we are the minority, the Government | :12:55. | :12:58. | |
does not think we have a voice cloud enough to complain compare to other | :12:59. | :13:02. | |
groups. Elisabeth on Facebook, it is true that we get little or no | :13:03. | :13:06. | |
support, local authorities will never say yes to support if they can | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
find a small, pathetic reason not to. Families' views are supposed to | :13:11. | :13:13. | |
be represented but setting up forums has been dumped on families with | :13:14. | :13:19. | |
special needs, and we are expected to do this full-time job for free on | :13:20. | :13:22. | |
top of looking after our children and beating their many needs, | :13:23. | :13:25. | |
frankly a joke. We are going to be talking to two mothers of disabled | :13:26. | :13:29. | |
children in just a few moments, and also a coalition of charities | :13:30. | :13:32. | |
getting together to highlight this particular issue of a lack of care, | :13:33. | :13:37. | |
so do keep on getting in touch with your thoughts on that if you are | :13:38. | :13:38. | |
affected. If you text, you will be charged | :13:39. | :13:42. | |
at the standard network rate. We can catch up with the sport with | :13:43. | :13:50. | |
Olly, and Manchester United through to the quarterfinals of the Europa | :13:51. | :13:54. | |
League, but Jose Mourinho is still not happy. No, the Portuguese has | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
been in a bit of a funk all week, remember they lost against Chelsea | :14:00. | :14:03. | |
on Monday night in the FA Cup, had that gruelling overnight bus journey | :14:04. | :14:06. | |
back to Manchester. They won last night at Manchester United, -- at | :14:07. | :14:15. | |
Old Trafford, against Rostov, but Paul Pogba pulled up with a | :14:16. | :14:17. | |
hamstring problem, the most expensive player in the world, not | :14:18. | :14:21. | |
sure how long he will be out for, a couple of weeks at least. Juan Mata | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
score the winner on the night, they go through 2-1 on aggregate. Sergio | :14:26. | :14:29. | |
Romero had to pull off a couple of great saves late on, or they would | :14:30. | :14:37. | |
have gone into extra time. United into the quarterfinal draw, but Jose | :14:38. | :14:40. | |
Mourinho was talking about having enemies, we think he is talking | :14:41. | :14:43. | |
about those who put the fixture lists together, not having done my | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
cabbie about playing Monday, Thursday and Sunday. Roy Keane said | :14:48. | :14:50. | |
he was talking rubbish, perhaps the club is too big for him, but they | :14:51. | :14:55. | |
are into the draw, which is later. They won, but he is not happy, the | :14:56. | :14:59. | |
quarterfinal draw being held in Lyon. The clubs to avoid include | :15:00. | :15:07. | |
Leon, Ajax and Schalke. In the next hour, the Champions League draw is | :15:08. | :15:14. | |
there as well, Leicester are the only British club in that, who will | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
they want to avoid? All of them probably! Barcelona, Real Madrid, | :15:20. | :15:22. | |
Bayern Munich in there as well, no dodging a really tricky tie for | :15:23. | :15:28. | |
Leicester, they are 20-1 outsiders if you fancy a flutter, Joanna, not | :15:29. | :15:31. | |
5000-1, but outsiders nonetheless. It is the final day of Cheltenham. | :15:32. | :15:46. | |
St Patrick Steve spirit. Nowhere else today but Cheltenham. | :15:47. | :15:48. | |
Beautiful weather. Brilliant week for the Irish | :15:49. | :15:54. | |
so far, hoovered up in six The great trainer jockey combo | :15:55. | :15:57. | |
of Willie Mullins and Ruby Walsh. Hadn't won any races | :15:58. | :16:01. | |
on the first two days. They had four yesterday including | :16:02. | :16:04. | |
the main race the Stayers Hurdle. Mullins and Walsh have | :16:05. | :16:11. | |
the favourite Djakadam in the Gold Cup today but it's | :16:12. | :16:19. | |
a wide open field with Colin Tizzard He works with his head on his chest | :16:20. | :16:29. | |
and he rips up over and he gets to the top, here's a happy horse. He is | :16:30. | :16:36. | |
not ready for anything else yet, here's a racehorse and he loves | :16:37. | :16:40. | |
that. He has as good a chance as he will ever have. How do you tell a | :16:41. | :16:47. | |
horse is happy? It probably does not have a long face! You have | :16:48. | :16:55. | |
interesting pictures of a golf course. | :16:56. | :17:04. | |
The Arnold Palmer Invitaional in Orlando. | :17:05. | :17:15. | |
First round, all the top golfers are there, and Cody Gribble. | :17:16. | :17:20. | |
Here he was wandering down the 6th fairway. | :17:21. | :17:35. | |
And got rid of this saying "they're not going to catch you". | :17:36. | :17:43. | |
Bringing up a disabled child is hard enough for any | :17:44. | :17:46. | |
family, but almost seven out of ten families never get | :17:47. | :17:49. | |
support caring for their disabled children, new research suggests. | :17:50. | :17:56. | |
In a survey of more than 2,000 families carried out by | :17:57. | :17:59. | |
the Disabled Children's Partnership, a coalition of leading children | :18:00. | :18:04. | |
and disability charities, many parents said the only support | :18:05. | :18:06. | |
they had was from friends and family. | :18:07. | :18:08. | |
The Department for Education said it wanted to make sure families | :18:09. | :18:10. | |
with disabled children felt supported so they are giving | :18:11. | :18:12. | |
councils almost ?200 billion to spend on local services by 2020. | :18:13. | :18:17. | |
Here this morning are: Amanda Batten, who is the Chair | :18:18. | :18:23. | |
of the Disabled Children's Partnership, Tahira Crow, | :18:24. | :18:27. | |
the mum of 15-year-old George who has a rare genetic | :18:28. | :18:30. | |
She is receiving some social care but says it's not enough. | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
And Hayley Smallmann, a mum who is also a full time carer | :18:36. | :18:38. | |
She didn't have any support for about eight years, has some now, | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
Tell us about your daughter's care needs and the pressure it puts on | :18:43. | :18:55. | |
you. Holly has multiple illnesses, cerebral palsy, epilepsy, chronic | :18:56. | :19:01. | |
lung disease, Jackie Austin the dependent, gastronomy dependent, she | :19:02. | :19:07. | |
requires highly skilled medically trained people to care for her. 24 | :19:08. | :19:13. | |
hours a day seven days a week, which myself and my husband do, to keep | :19:14. | :19:18. | |
her alive. Holly's prognosis is she is life limited. Each day brings a | :19:19. | :19:29. | |
different challenge for us. You and your husband are full-time carers | :19:30. | :19:34. | |
and you do a very highly skilled job in caring for Holly. Tells what to | :19:35. | :19:42. | |
do. Yes. We have to be specially trained to react to everything that | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
Holly does. We do the job of an intensive care team at home. | :19:48. | :19:53. | |
Holly... I house is set up around Holly. We have machines to monitor | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
our oxygen, heart rate, blood pressure, temperature, we are | :19:59. | :20:02. | |
constantly monitoring her to keep her well. For years you had no help. | :20:03. | :20:11. | |
You get some. What difference does it make? What amount of help you | :20:12. | :20:17. | |
getting? For many years we had no help at all and we relied on my | :20:18. | :20:22. | |
sister, otherwise I do not know what would've happened to us, but we | :20:23. | :20:26. | |
reach the point where might we felt we reached crisis point ourselves | :20:27. | :20:31. | |
when my husband and myself were physically and mentally exhausted | :20:32. | :20:37. | |
through caring. We got something called direct payments which is some | :20:38. | :20:43. | |
hours a week which enable us to employ somebody to assist us | :20:44. | :20:49. | |
together Holly a better quality of life, which is all really wanted. We | :20:50. | :20:54. | |
found that all the care we were doing at home was very intense and | :20:55. | :20:58. | |
we needed to do this but we were missing out on loving life as well | :20:59. | :21:02. | |
as a family and it had an impact on my other children as well. They are | :21:03. | :21:07. | |
just as important as Holly and our family life was seriously | :21:08. | :21:11. | |
compromised. We were not having any family time together. You have to | :21:12. | :21:19. | |
match other children. Yes. It took a long time to get help. Did you not | :21:20. | :21:26. | |
know you were entitled? It was not freely offered. When you have a | :21:27. | :21:30. | |
child with very complex health needs it is a very fragmented system. | :21:31. | :21:37. | |
There is not a very good signposting. People do not really | :21:38. | :21:42. | |
give you the option of care. They expect I think a lot of parents to | :21:43. | :21:48. | |
know what is out there. We felt, I felt I was juggling Holly's care, | :21:49. | :21:52. | |
but as having to fight to justify why I needed the help I needed. For | :21:53. | :21:59. | |
a parent to have to do that, to put their hands up and say I am | :22:00. | :22:02. | |
struggling to look after my daughter, it is a very hard thing to | :22:03. | :22:06. | |
have to admit for a mother to say that, and I do not think any family | :22:07. | :22:10. | |
should have to be forced to say that. Initially what would have | :22:11. | :22:14. | |
worked better as it services around us could recognise the need and | :22:15. | :22:18. | |
early intervention would stop anything like that happening to | :22:19. | :22:23. | |
other families. You have a 15-year-old child with special needs | :22:24. | :22:27. | |
as well. Your son George. Tell us about him. George has a rare genetic | :22:28. | :22:36. | |
syndrome that affects his pancreas and bone marrow. And skeletal. Those | :22:37. | :22:42. | |
are the main characteristics of the syndrome. He also has autism of the | :22:43. | :22:51. | |
severe end. He needs 24-hour care. Obviously meant my husband deliver | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
that. With family support. And good friends network. Tell us about the | :22:58. | :23:08. | |
pressures, we heard about Healy. You sort of just manage with the daily | :23:09. | :23:14. | |
challenges that you face. Because George has quite a lot of health | :23:15. | :23:18. | |
needs as well as the autism, it is trying to balance, because he has a | :23:19. | :23:24. | |
lot of regular checkups for his health, and also helping him cope | :23:25. | :23:32. | |
with daily life. He has so have medication, he needs constant | :23:33. | :23:39. | |
supervision. You do get some help. It was a long time coming. Yes. We | :23:40. | :23:45. | |
receive direct payments which we have done for about the night years | :23:46. | :23:50. | |
so we employ somebody to take George out. Unfortunately he is at | :23:51. | :23:53. | |
universities so he can only offer help during the summer and it has | :23:54. | :23:56. | |
been really difficult to recruit somebody else because this is our | :23:57. | :24:00. | |
son and we do not want just anybody, we want somebody who understands | :24:01. | :24:08. | |
George's needs. We also fairly recently have received a short break | :24:09. | :24:15. | |
facility through action for children. Unfortunately we only get | :24:16. | :24:18. | |
one night a month which is not a lot. However George has coped | :24:19. | :24:26. | |
extremely well with it. It has brought him on. His independence, he | :24:27. | :24:30. | |
loves going. He is there with other peers. It broadens his spectrum of | :24:31. | :24:41. | |
meeting new people. Our next battle is to ask for extra nights so George | :24:42. | :24:47. | |
could perhaps be for a weekend and give Gary and I, my husband and I, a | :24:48. | :24:53. | |
break from the caring. You work as well. I do. It must be relentless. | :24:54. | :25:04. | |
It did, after having George, when he had his diagnosis, I went back to | :25:05. | :25:11. | |
work, part-time, an opportunity for some career progression came up so I | :25:12. | :25:17. | |
went full-time but unfortunately I could only sustain that for four | :25:18. | :25:21. | |
months and realised with the pressures of all the different | :25:22. | :25:25. | |
things George needed that I would have to retreat back to part-time so | :25:26. | :25:32. | |
my husband works full-time. That impacted on our lives. Lots of | :25:33. | :25:38. | |
people getting in touch. Lorraine says I have to match boys with | :25:39. | :25:43. | |
autism and at the moment I have had a lot of support and the cuts are | :25:44. | :25:49. | |
scary, life is hard enough without having to worry about being able to | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
afford everyday needs especially if they get more complex. The passes | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
physical disabilities and mental health issues often go hand in hand | :25:59. | :26:02. | |
and sometimes you get help and one are not the other. Jane says most | :26:03. | :26:07. | |
families with disabled children feel ground down by the system. And it | :26:08. | :26:12. | |
says no disabled person gets the support they need, it is a postcode | :26:13. | :26:16. | |
lottery, unless you're classed as they deemed nursing care your left | :26:17. | :26:25. | |
to it. Hardly any help to access community or have supported remain | :26:26. | :26:28. | |
independent in the Hall and almost impossible to get disabled | :26:29. | :26:32. | |
facilities, grants for working families and the crisis was | :26:33. | :26:38. | |
wheelchair services is miserable. Amanda, you're with the coalition | :26:39. | :26:42. | |
representing the various disabled charities, this has hit a nerve, | :26:43. | :26:46. | |
your researchers found a lot of people in the same bolt. Yes. We | :26:47. | :26:55. | |
pulled over 6000 families and 69% older they had ever received any | :26:56. | :26:58. | |
support in caring for their disabled child other than through family and | :26:59. | :27:02. | |
friends. About a quarter said they did not receive support from their | :27:03. | :27:07. | |
family either. Those families end up feeling very isolated. They have | :27:08. | :27:13. | |
talked with a fantastic job they do and the pressures they face. And the | :27:14. | :27:17. | |
difference some sort of fairly low-level even family support | :27:18. | :27:23. | |
services can be transformational for the families. You are talking about | :27:24. | :27:31. | |
cuts in budget between 2010 and 2015 but hearing from our panel these | :27:32. | :27:43. | |
issues have been going on for years. Absolutely. Why we have come | :27:44. | :27:48. | |
together now as the partnership is because as 28 different charities we | :27:49. | :27:53. | |
are troubled with the ongoing lack of support for families but also we | :27:54. | :27:59. | |
have just had a budget where disabled children were not mentioned | :28:00. | :28:04. | |
at all and more widely in the social reform agenda there is never any | :28:05. | :28:07. | |
mention of disabled children and their families and we think that | :28:08. | :28:10. | |
needs to change. The government says it is spending ?50 billion a year | :28:11. | :28:17. | |
supporting disabled people and councils are getting 200 billion by | :28:18. | :28:20. | |
2020 to spend on local services. How does that time? You have heard from | :28:21. | :28:30. | |
those experiences that that does not correspond with families' | :28:31. | :28:34. | |
experiences. We know that social cabbages are being increasingly | :28:35. | :28:42. | |
squeezed. -- social care budgets. Most services are experiencing cuts. | :28:43. | :28:48. | |
That support for services which support the family took care, to | :28:49. | :28:56. | |
stay together, to be able to work, are the kinds of services that are | :28:57. | :28:59. | |
being chipped away at across the country. Do you feel it is an easy | :29:00. | :29:06. | |
hit for local authorities? Totally. I also think it is really... They | :29:07. | :29:14. | |
are not doing enough scoping of the children in their local areas. They | :29:15. | :29:19. | |
are not meeting their needs. It is a very ticked box exercise when they | :29:20. | :29:24. | |
are seeing we are providing short breaks. Myself and my daughter | :29:25. | :29:30. | |
received 21 days a year respite but that is from a children's hospice | :29:31. | :29:36. | |
which is a to and the demand on the charity because of the lack of | :29:37. | :29:41. | |
government funding coming down to us is frightening because what will | :29:42. | :29:46. | |
happen when the charity are completely exhausted of all their | :29:47. | :29:54. | |
resources? Talking about charities being exhausted of resources, these | :29:55. | :29:59. | |
are humans, people like you, at the heart of this, keeping things going, | :30:00. | :30:05. | |
and it cannot be easy. No. It certainly is not. Getting by with | :30:06. | :30:08. | |
the daily day-to-day survival kind of thing, and supporting George with | :30:09. | :30:16. | |
his immediate needs, then to have to... It does not come to you, you | :30:17. | :30:22. | |
have to seek these services out and it is through other families in the | :30:23. | :30:26. | |
same situation talking to other parents that you find out what the | :30:27. | :30:32. | |
services are about and then you have to go and seek it out for | :30:33. | :30:38. | |
yourselves. When you are feeling exhausted anyway I'm tired that is | :30:39. | :30:40. | |
not easy. Thank you all very much for coming | :30:41. | :30:49. | |
in, and thank you for your comments, do keep them coming. | :30:50. | :30:52. | |
Still to come: "A flagrant violation of international law". | :30:53. | :30:54. | |
That's how human rights groups and refugee organisations | :30:55. | :30:56. | |
are describing Hungary's new policy of detaining migrants in containers. | :30:57. | :30:59. | |
and the Hungarian government shortly. | :31:00. | :31:04. | |
?12 million has been raised for the crisis in East Africa as drought and | :31:05. | :31:10. | |
conflict racks the region, we will hear you dumb I carry you can help | :31:11. | :31:16. | |
16 million people in urgent need. -- we will hear how you can help. | :31:17. | :31:19. | |
Annita McVeigh or is in the newsroom. | :31:20. | :31:21. | |
Britain's surveillance agency, GCHQ, has described claims | :31:22. | :31:24. | |
that it was asked by President Obama to spy on Donald Trump | :31:25. | :31:27. | |
The unusual move to issue a statement came after White House | :31:28. | :31:35. | |
press secretary Sean Spicer quoted claims first made on US TV channel | :31:36. | :31:37. | |
The SNP will today accuse the Government of being too scared | :31:38. | :31:43. | |
to allow a second independence referendum. | :31:44. | :31:45. | |
Deputy leader Angus Robertson will open his party's | :31:46. | :31:48. | |
spring conference by saying the Conservatives | :31:49. | :31:49. | |
have a "desperate desire" to prevent anyone rejecting Brexit. | :31:50. | :31:51. | |
But Theresa May will tell her own party conference in Cardiff | :31:52. | :31:54. | |
that she'll fight to keep what she calls the "precious union". | :31:55. | :32:02. | |
Southern Railway guards in the RMT union are to stage a fresh | :32:03. | :32:05. | |
24-hour strike on 4th April in the continuing row over staffing | :32:06. | :32:08. | |
The news comes after the drivers' union, Aslef, | :32:09. | :32:12. | |
reached a revised deal with the train firm's parent company, | :32:13. | :32:15. | |
Aslef members, who rejected a previous deal struck | :32:16. | :32:20. | |
with the company, are set to vote on the new | :32:21. | :32:22. | |
The UK's biggest ever fine for river pollution | :32:23. | :32:36. | |
is expected to be imposed on Thames Water today. | :32:37. | :32:38. | |
The company's admitted to breaching more than a dozen | :32:39. | :32:40. | |
Stretches of water in Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire were heavily | :32:41. | :32:44. | |
Haddock caught west of Scotland and in the North Sea, | :32:45. | :32:47. | |
has been taken off a list of sustainable fish to eat. | :32:48. | :32:50. | |
The Marine Conservation Society says stocks declined last year | :32:51. | :32:52. | |
and action is needed to boost the number of breeding-age fish. | :32:53. | :32:55. | |
But the decision's been criticised by Scottish fishermen. | :32:56. | :33:03. | |
A security sniffer dog has been shot dead at New Zealand's biggest | :33:04. | :33:10. | |
airport after it grounded flights after escaping its leash. | :33:11. | :33:13. | |
Authorities say the ten-month-old could not be captured after it ran | :33:14. | :33:17. | |
away from its handler. Animal rights groups have asked why the dog could | :33:18. | :33:21. | |
not have been tranquillised instead. That is a summary of the latest BBC | :33:22. | :33:26. | |
News, more at ten o'clock, back to you, Joanna. Let's catch up with the | :33:27. | :33:30. | |
sport with Olly Foster. Man United through to the Roper | :33:31. | :33:33. | |
league quarterfinals, they beat Rostov 1-0 with a Juan Mata goal. -- | :33:34. | :33:48. | |
the Europa League. Winning a trophy carries Champions League | :33:49. | :33:51. | |
qualifications. The draw takes place later this morning, and Leicester | :33:52. | :33:54. | |
are the only British club left in that competition. They could face | :33:55. | :33:59. | |
Barcelona, real Madrid or Bayern Munich, or a few other European | :34:00. | :34:02. | |
superpowers. Nichols Canyon, written by Ruby Walsh, won the big race | :34:03. | :34:08. | |
yesterday, one of six Irish winners at the Cheltenham Festival. He | :34:09. | :34:16. | |
writes the favourite, Djakadam, in the Gold Cup this afternoon. And | :34:17. | :34:20. | |
Warrington's wall. To the Super League season continues, they lost | :34:21. | :34:27. | |
22-8 at newly promoted Leigh centurions last night. -- woeful | :34:28. | :34:30. | |
start. Hungary is to detain migrants | :34:31. | :34:31. | |
in metal shipping containers along its southern border, | :34:32. | :34:33. | |
where they will be kept while they wait for their asylum | :34:34. | :34:35. | |
cases to be heard. The measure applies to men, | :34:36. | :34:39. | |
women and children over 14. The country's prime minister | :34:40. | :34:42. | |
Viktor Orban is known for his He's described it as | :34:43. | :34:45. | |
a "Trojan horse for terrorism" and says the measures | :34:46. | :34:54. | |
are intended to "save Europe". Human rights group Amnesty | :34:55. | :34:56. | |
International has condemned the move as a "flagrant violation | :34:57. | :34:59. | |
of international law". The Hungarian Parliament approved | :35:00. | :35:00. | |
the law to detain migrants as part of measures to tighten controls | :35:01. | :35:03. | |
on the Serbian border which has been a focus of the European | :35:04. | :35:06. | |
migration crisis since 2015. We are not criminals, we are not | :35:07. | :35:48. | |
terrorists, we are refugees. A little over a month ago, this | :35:49. | :36:34. | |
programme reported from Asotthalom, a village on the Hungarian-Serbian | :36:35. | :36:38. | |
border Asotthalom, a village | :36:39. | :36:40. | |
on the southern Hungarian plains, just minutes from the Serbian border | :36:41. | :36:47. | |
were in 2015, 10,000 migrants a day | :36:48. | :36:50. | |
crossed into Hungary. The village population is declining | :36:51. | :36:56. | |
and homesteads stand vacant. The mayor here wants | :36:57. | :37:02. | |
to attract foreign investors, TRANSLATION: We primarily welcome | :37:03. | :37:07. | |
people from Western Europe, people who would not like to live | :37:08. | :37:15. | |
in a multicultural society. We wouldn't like to attract | :37:16. | :37:19. | |
Muslim people in the village. What if I was black, | :37:20. | :37:22. | |
or what if I was gay? Asotthalom has a bye-law that bans | :37:23. | :37:24. | |
homosexual propaganda. As for your other question, | :37:25. | :37:34. | |
think about this. Europe is small, it can't take | :37:35. | :37:40. | |
in billions of people from Africa and South Asia, | :37:41. | :37:42. | |
but there is a population boom. This would soon lead | :37:43. | :37:47. | |
to the disappearance of Europe. I would like Europe to belong | :37:48. | :37:50. | |
to Europeans, and Africa to Africans, | :37:51. | :37:52. | |
simple as that. He is so serious he has introduced | :37:53. | :37:58. | |
local legislation banning public displays of affection by gay people, | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
the wearing of Islamic dress, and he wants to ban | :38:03. | :38:07. | |
the building of mosques. There are two Muslims | :38:08. | :38:13. | |
in Asotthalom, and one of them agreed to speak to us, | :38:14. | :38:16. | |
but at the last minute pulled out. They didn't want to attract | :38:17. | :38:19. | |
attention to themselves. They have spoken of their fears | :38:20. | :38:21. | |
to Hungarian media in the past but other villagers reject the laws | :38:22. | :38:24. | |
are a huge concern. However, they are the talk | :38:25. | :38:27. | |
of the village pub. TRANSLATION: Important issues | :38:28. | :38:32. | |
like this should be legislated by the national government, | :38:33. | :38:36. | |
not local legislation. If they take off their veil, | :38:37. | :38:39. | |
I'll accept them. It doesn't even matter | :38:40. | :38:42. | |
if they are black, they should become | :38:43. | :38:44. | |
Hungarian citizens even if they are Muslims | :38:45. | :38:47. | |
or whatever. Are you trying to create | :38:48. | :38:49. | |
a white kind of supremacist village? but because we are white, European, | :38:50. | :38:59. | |
Christian population Our correspondent Nick Thorpe | :39:00. | :39:06. | |
is on the Hungary border. Nick, tell us what is happening | :39:07. | :39:29. | |
there right now. Well, yes, Joanna, here I am right next to the | :39:30. | :39:33. | |
container camp, you might be able to hear in the background earth moving | :39:34. | :39:36. | |
machines, digging machines that have already flattened the area here. | :39:37. | :39:44. | |
Basically, they are putting into place shipping containers which will | :39:45. | :39:50. | |
house up to, at displays, up to 250 asylum seekers from the beginning of | :39:51. | :39:55. | |
April. There is one of the camp like this, but they are preparing it | :39:56. | :40:01. | |
down. Each individual carbon is like a shipping container, and this is | :40:02. | :40:04. | |
where all asylum seekers in future will be detained. -- cabin. Tell us | :40:05. | :40:14. | |
more about the controversy around these policies, there has been a | :40:15. | :40:18. | |
ruling from the European Court of Human Rights. That is right, the | :40:19. | :40:21. | |
Hungarian government's position is rather hard line, it sees pretty | :40:22. | :40:27. | |
much all the migrants crossing the border, legally or illegally, as | :40:28. | :40:30. | |
economic migrants. It doesn't see this as a humanitarian issue, it | :40:31. | :40:35. | |
sees it as a securities you, and it sees Hungary on the front line, and | :40:36. | :40:40. | |
it says it is defending Hungary and the European Union, as a Schengen | :40:41. | :40:44. | |
member country. The European Court of Human Rights, this is an | :40:45. | :40:48. | |
interesting precedent setting case, just a couple of days ago ruled | :40:49. | :40:52. | |
against Hungary over the detention in exactly this place where I am | :40:53. | :40:57. | |
standing now of two Pakistani citizens in September 2000 and 15. | :40:58. | :41:02. | |
Hungary had argued that Serbia, just the other side of the border, is a | :41:03. | :41:06. | |
safe country and it was allowed to send them back. Hungary argued that | :41:07. | :41:09. | |
it could detain them for 23 days and similar containers to the ones being | :41:10. | :41:14. | |
arranged here now. But the UN Court of Human Rights ruled that Hungary | :41:15. | :41:20. | |
had violated international rules, asylum procedures and so one, by | :41:21. | :41:25. | |
doing that, so it was found in breach of international and EU | :41:26. | :41:29. | |
rules. So is there any sanction against Hungary, or can it continue | :41:30. | :41:32. | |
to ignore that and potentially any other rulings? There have been a | :41:33. | :41:39. | |
chorus of international criticism from the United Nations refugee | :41:40. | :41:44. | |
agency, also from human rights organisations. The UNHCR cannot | :41:45. | :41:49. | |
sanction Hungary, the European Commission could, and there were | :41:50. | :41:52. | |
hearings in the European Parliament recently, and people are waiting to | :41:53. | :41:56. | |
see, the government is waiting to see, because by tightening the rules | :41:57. | :42:01. | |
and introducing this effectively automatic detention, Hungary is | :42:02. | :42:04. | |
going head to head with Brussels, people wondering whether the | :42:05. | :42:07. | |
European Commission will challenge this, or indeed anyone else will | :42:08. | :42:14. | |
challenge this legally. Thank you, Nick. | :42:15. | :42:16. | |
With us is Erno Simon, a spokesman for UNHCR | :42:17. | :42:19. | |
in Hungary spokesman, Stephane Moissaing, head | :42:20. | :42:24. | |
of Medecins Sans Frontieres' mission in Serbia, | :42:25. | :42:26. | |
and the Hungarian government spokesman Zoltan Kovacs. | :42:27. | :42:28. | |
We'll hear from the Hungarian government spokesman | :42:29. | :42:32. | |
in a minute, but first tell us about the containers | :42:33. | :42:34. | |
Well, we think the detention of asylum seekers in these conditions | :42:35. | :42:46. | |
is absolutely against international and EU law. The only criteria why | :42:47. | :42:50. | |
these people would be detained is that they first seek asylum in | :42:51. | :42:54. | |
Hungary, and they have not committed any crime, and all of them will be | :42:55. | :43:00. | |
detained behind four metre high razor wire fence, this is | :43:01. | :43:05. | |
unacceptable. Hungary says that it is dealing with a situation where it | :43:06. | :43:09. | |
is trying to manage large numbers of people who have been trying to get | :43:10. | :43:13. | |
into the country - is this a proportionate response? Well, as I | :43:14. | :43:19. | |
have mentioned, under the international law, seeking asylum is | :43:20. | :43:23. | |
absolutely a basic human rights, and no-one should be sanctioned for it, | :43:24. | :43:27. | |
no-one should suffer any repercussions for it, any people can | :43:28. | :43:34. | |
ask for asylum, and they have the right to enter the country and to | :43:35. | :43:41. | |
have access to a fair legal asylum seeker. Hungary now prepares to | :43:42. | :43:48. | |
detain every single asylum seeker, including children, who come with | :43:49. | :43:51. | |
families or who come alone to Hungary. So I think this is | :43:52. | :43:59. | |
absolutely not a proportionate response to this. Stephan, Medecins | :44:00. | :44:10. | |
Sans Frontieres say they have been treating migrants who have been | :44:11. | :44:13. | |
treated brutally by the Hungarian authorities, I know MSF has not | :44:14. | :44:16. | |
directly witnessed any incidents, but tell us the allegations that you | :44:17. | :44:24. | |
have heard. Yes, we have some case of violence which which come to our | :44:25. | :44:37. | |
clinic ill Belgrade. Weather conditions are now more suitable for | :44:38. | :44:44. | |
migrants to travel. We have recorded some violence already, and actually | :44:45. | :44:51. | |
in February we had 39 cases at our clinic, Annie Last two weeks of | :44:52. | :44:57. | |
March, we had 37 cases. -- and the last. So yes, the trend of violence | :44:58. | :45:05. | |
seems to be increasing. After the violence, the brutal act on | :45:06. | :45:11. | |
migrants, what we hear in testimonies, much more people give | :45:12. | :45:16. | |
their testimonies, so we see only the tip of the iceberg. The | :45:17. | :45:22. | |
testimonies we receive are telling that a long session of humiliation | :45:23. | :45:29. | |
are happening to migrants, so dog bites, hitting with rubber sticks, | :45:30. | :45:40. | |
tear gas. And the migrants are kept between 30 minutes and four hours | :45:41. | :45:43. | |
sometimes, and they are humiliated, so we have seen some other cases, | :45:44. | :45:52. | |
even people as young as 13 years old being brutalised as well. | :45:53. | :45:59. | |
It is inhumane treatment. Allegations are not really | :46:00. | :46:09. | |
investigated and we would like to have a body to investigate those | :46:10. | :46:17. | |
allegations. You are joining us as the government spokesman. A lot of | :46:18. | :46:21. | |
allegations being made against Hungary, inhumane treatment it has | :46:22. | :46:28. | |
been called. What is your response? They are allegations. We have not | :46:29. | :46:32. | |
seen any evidence supporting these allegations. Therefore we have to | :46:33. | :46:38. | |
presume that most of them are lies. Very well known at long stores | :46:39. | :46:44. | |
migrants reaching the borders of Europe. For the past two or three | :46:45. | :46:49. | |
years we have seen many stories and interpretations so you have to be | :46:50. | :46:52. | |
careful when you meet these allegations. We have a gross | :46:53. | :47:02. | |
misinterpretation of international law and asylum seekers. There is no | :47:03. | :47:05. | |
such human rights that would allow anyone around the globe to freely | :47:06. | :47:10. | |
choose his destination, cross countries illegally and eventually | :47:11. | :47:14. | |
come to the borders of the European Union and one of the European member | :47:15. | :47:20. | |
states to apply for asylum. Hungary has been ruled against by the | :47:21. | :47:23. | |
European Court of Human Rights on the issue. Yes, but you have to be | :47:24. | :47:28. | |
precise on the two cases. This is a ridiculous case because two | :47:29. | :47:34. | |
Pakistanis or Bangladeshis to the rest of my knowledge were awarded | :47:35. | :47:38. | |
some financial ramifications because we sent them back to Serbia, through | :47:39. | :47:44. | |
Serbia, to Greece. Allegedly because they are going to be ill treated. | :47:45. | :47:48. | |
Keep in mind that Greece is a member of the European Union. It is a | :47:49. | :47:56. | |
ridiculous idea to presume that one European member state is not the | :47:57. | :48:00. | |
same country. Keep in mind these migrants coming through a number of | :48:01. | :48:05. | |
states including Turkey, Greece, Macedonia, Serbia, all of them are | :48:06. | :48:10. | |
safe countries, the European Union regard the turkey as a safe country. | :48:11. | :48:16. | |
The large proportion of migrants trying to come through to Hungary | :48:17. | :48:20. | |
are coming from Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria. Do you see them as part of | :48:21. | :48:28. | |
the humanitarian crisis? It is becoming a humanitarian crisis | :48:29. | :48:31. | |
because we do not deal with that according to what is happening. In | :48:32. | :48:35. | |
terms of their experience and where they have come from. Indeed but this | :48:36. | :48:41. | |
is not a refugee crisis, this is a migration crisis. We have registered | :48:42. | :48:46. | |
migrants coming from over 104 countries for the past couple of | :48:47. | :48:51. | |
years. Last year, 1.2 million people entered the European Union and we | :48:52. | :48:56. | |
see that the majority of them are not going to be entitled for any | :48:57. | :48:59. | |
kind of legal status therefore they should be returned back to where | :49:00. | :49:04. | |
they were coming from. That is increasingly problematic to put into | :49:05. | :49:09. | |
effect. Look at Germany and the Scandinavian countries struggling | :49:10. | :49:12. | |
with hundreds of thousands of people who should be sent back and it is | :49:13. | :49:17. | |
impossible because they have failed to fulfil their obligations under | :49:18. | :49:21. | |
the existing European framework to ensure that those who step on legal | :49:22. | :49:28. | |
soil have area goal -- legal rights. -- who step on European soil have a | :49:29. | :49:35. | |
legal right. Germany, Scandinavian countries in the rest of Europe, | :49:36. | :49:40. | |
what you are trying to do is to restore law and order at the | :49:41. | :49:43. | |
European borders. We have an obligation. Hungary has an | :49:44. | :49:50. | |
obligation under the existing rules. What about the point that migrants | :49:51. | :49:55. | |
once they get that point have passed through other safe countries as well | :49:56. | :50:06. | |
where they could stay? Serbia and Macedonia might be safe countries | :50:07. | :50:11. | |
for the civilians, safe countries of origin, but the asylum institutions, | :50:12. | :50:15. | |
the asylum system does not function properly in those countries, so we | :50:16. | :50:20. | |
do not recommend to countries to send asylum seekers back to Serbia | :50:21. | :50:26. | |
or Macedonia. Would you like to respond to that? Come back to common | :50:27. | :50:35. | |
sense. That is ridiculous. There's the European Union considers Turkey | :50:36. | :50:37. | |
a safe country a member state likely to be considered a safe country. | :50:38. | :50:42. | |
Macedonia and Serbia are safe countries as well. We have to cut | :50:43. | :50:49. | |
this vicious circle of illegal migrants using the services of human | :50:50. | :50:52. | |
traffickers crossing a number of countries illegally just because | :50:53. | :50:58. | |
they believe, and does not really matter if they are proper refugees | :50:59. | :51:02. | |
are economic migrants, that they have a right to come to European | :51:03. | :51:06. | |
Union without approval. We have to turn back to common sense and | :51:07. | :51:10. | |
legality at the borders the European Union. Thank you. | :51:11. | :51:25. | |
Coming up: Britain's top secret surveillance agency GCHQ has | :51:26. | :51:27. | |
described as "ridiculous" claims it was asked by President Obama | :51:28. | :51:29. | |
to spy on Donald Trump during last year's US election campaign. | :51:30. | :51:32. | |
?12 million has already been raised since | :51:33. | :51:41. | |
the Disasters Emergency Committee launched its urgent | :51:42. | :51:43. | |
appeal for the crisis in East Africa on Wednesday. | :51:44. | :51:46. | |
The DEC is made up of 13 UK aid agencies who have joined forces | :51:47. | :51:50. | |
for the appeal to help those facing famine in the region. | :51:51. | :51:53. | |
The committee says at least 16 million people in Somalia, Kenya, | :51:54. | :51:57. | |
Ethiopia and South Sudan are in desperate need of food, | :51:58. | :51:59. | |
We can now speak to Saleh Saeed, the Chief Executive of | :52:00. | :52:08. | |
the Disasters Emergency Committee, Tearfund's Country Director | :52:09. | :52:12. | |
for South Sudan is in Juba, where they have feeding centres | :52:13. | :52:15. | |
for internally displaced people who've been flocking to the capital | :52:16. | :52:17. | |
And Simon Nyabwengi, who is the World Vision's National | :52:18. | :52:25. | |
Director for Somalia, where the country is at risk | :52:26. | :52:27. | |
You have had a good response to the campaign already. What will the | :52:28. | :52:41. | |
money be used for? The money raised so far will go to supply very | :52:42. | :52:46. | |
desperate people in East Africa with food, water and medical supplies, | :52:47. | :52:50. | |
for example starving children on the brink of death will be supplied with | :52:51. | :52:58. | |
a miracle cure that gives them the nutrients they are desperately | :52:59. | :53:02. | |
needing to survive. The funding is coming through at a very desperate | :53:03. | :53:06. | |
time. Why does it have to get to this point for minds to be focused? | :53:07. | :53:13. | |
Yes. We have been alerting the world and the UK public about the | :53:14. | :53:16. | |
devastating situation going on in East Africa for a while but we are | :53:17. | :53:20. | |
delighted that the world has woken up and taken stock of what is going | :53:21. | :53:27. | |
on. We still have time to avert catastrophe, 16 million people who | :53:28. | :53:31. | |
are literally needing humanitarian assistance who could face starvation | :53:32. | :53:35. | |
of we do not respond. We are very proud of the UK Government and the | :53:36. | :53:39. | |
UK public for responding urgently to this crisis and the global community | :53:40. | :53:45. | |
we are calling on to respond. You are in south Sudan. Tell us about | :53:46. | :53:50. | |
the picture for you and the needs you're seeing. Thank you. The | :53:51. | :53:57. | |
picture here and the future here at the moment of the country is dire. | :53:58. | :54:02. | |
We have a country with half a million people and about 7.5 million | :54:03. | :54:07. | |
people need humanitarian assistance. 4.9 million people have not enough | :54:08. | :54:11. | |
food and that is not just having a diverse end, it is having 30, 40, | :54:12. | :54:21. | |
50% of the daily diet. Because these are the drought in the eastern parts | :54:22. | :54:26. | |
of the country and the conflict in different places, famine was | :54:27. | :54:29. | |
declared in the north of the country in some counties and some counties | :54:30. | :54:34. | |
in other parts of the country are in danger of falling to famine. We also | :54:35. | :54:39. | |
have extreme hunger Radford problem in some areas where we have not had | :54:40. | :54:42. | |
this in the past like in the south of the country. There are lots of | :54:43. | :54:50. | |
different issues that country, the conflicts you mentioned, the food, | :54:51. | :54:58. | |
shortages causing devastation, in terms of the conflict what impact is | :54:59. | :55:03. | |
that having? It has the impact that people cannot access food | :55:04. | :55:11. | |
distribution, medical services, borders. This is very common, or | :55:12. | :55:16. | |
they have to flee to other places where normally you would perhaps | :55:17. | :55:20. | |
have more food available normally and put more pressure on these | :55:21. | :55:25. | |
markets. It is like a spiral which is not reading to anything good. The | :55:26. | :55:33. | |
problem is very serious. You are in Somalia. What is the situation? The | :55:34. | :55:42. | |
situation is quite desperate. I have been in the field for the last five | :55:43. | :55:47. | |
days and what I have seen is quite heartbreaking. I will give an | :55:48. | :55:52. | |
example of a mother we met who had five children and she started on a | :55:53. | :56:00. | |
40 kilometres trek and two of her children had acute diarrhoea and | :56:01. | :56:03. | |
they succumb to that disease and she had to bury them in the community | :56:04. | :56:11. | |
she was passing through. Then she continued with her older son to | :56:12. | :56:16. | |
somewhere where she was able to get some assistance. We have seen people | :56:17. | :56:23. | |
coming into areas where there is no conflict, we are seeing them seeking | :56:24. | :56:28. | |
help, seeing a very acute outbreak of diarrhoea, a cholera condition | :56:29. | :56:34. | |
that is becoming what we are calling a which's blue, people who are | :56:35. | :56:42. | |
weakened by hunger and then you have acute diarrhoea which is the result | :56:43. | :56:50. | |
of consuming very dirty water. We are seeing a quite desperate | :56:51. | :56:52. | |
situation in all of the areas we are working in. As with south Sudan, the | :56:53. | :56:59. | |
issues in Somalia are not straightforward. It is not just | :57:00. | :57:02. | |
environmental issues, there is the conflict as well. How complicated as | :57:03. | :57:09. | |
the picture? It becomes a lot more complicated especially in the south. | :57:10. | :57:15. | |
What has happened over time is that forces have managed to liberate some | :57:16. | :57:20. | |
towns but rural areas are still controlled by Al-Shabab and you are | :57:21. | :57:28. | |
having people starving affected by drought who are having to make their | :57:29. | :57:33. | |
way into safer areas, in order to be able to get assistance. Our biggest | :57:34. | :57:42. | |
fear is that while we might be able to save those who find their way | :57:43. | :57:51. | |
into these areas, two days ago the world 13,000 people who made the | :57:52. | :57:57. | |
trek in order to get help, our biggest fear is that in those areas | :57:58. | :58:02. | |
that we do not have access to that there might be a lot more dead and | :58:03. | :58:06. | |
in more desperate need and we are not able to reach them. Thank you. | :58:07. | :58:18. | |
It is the Echo docks in the UK which is the day when days and nights are | :58:19. | :58:25. | |
equal in length. Not to be confused with the equinox which is on Monday | :58:26. | :58:29. | |
when the sun passes across the equator. Today has started bright | :58:30. | :58:34. | |
for many of you, lovely sunrise across southern parts of the UK. It | :58:35. | :58:40. | |
will be a fine day in Cornwall. Further north the sky is a different | :58:41. | :58:44. | |
cooler and it is probably a day to stay this side of the window. | :58:45. | :58:49. | |
Outbreaks of rain across Scotland and parts of Northern Ireland and | :58:50. | :58:53. | |
north-west England. Snow on the hills in the Highlands. Very misty. | :58:54. | :58:57. | |
Biased throughout the south but the cloud will increase. -- driest. | :58:58. | :59:07. | |
Heading further south temperatures are what they should be for the time | :59:08. | :59:12. | |
of year. It is going to be damp in Northern Ireland. The rain will ease | :59:13. | :59:15. | |
off in central and southern Scotland this afternoon but north-west | :59:16. | :59:20. | |
Midlands and western parts of Wales get wetter and wetter. Winds around | :59:21. | :59:25. | |
the coast get easier. Gusty by the end of the day. Away from the hills | :59:26. | :59:30. | |
western parts of Wales and much of England and Wales will have a dry | :59:31. | :59:33. | |
day with the best of the sunshine towards the south and east. We have | :59:34. | :59:40. | |
had some sunshine at Cheltenham but it will turn cloudier. Cannot rule | :59:41. | :59:45. | |
out rain and wind but most of the time it will be dry. Tonight the | :59:46. | :59:49. | |
chance of rain just about anywhere overnight. Heaviest and most | :59:50. | :59:53. | |
persistent in the west. That year and lighter further east. The | :59:54. | :59:58. | |
clearest conditions will be in northern Scotland. A touch of frost | :59:59. | :00:03. | |
and ice. For the rest of you, a mild start to the weekend. A lot of load | :00:04. | :00:09. | |
throughout the weekend. The occasional bit of rain elsewhere in | :00:10. | :00:14. | |
the south. Writing and up into the afternoon. Turning wetter for | :00:15. | :00:18. | |
Northern Ireland, and north-west England. Some areas will stay dry | :00:19. | :00:23. | |
throughout the day. Maybe into the south-east of England we could get | :00:24. | :00:31. | |
15 degrees. Maybe higher. Wet and windy weather across northern areas | :00:32. | :00:36. | |
into Sunday. It comes into another weather system which will work its | :00:37. | :00:39. | |
way in on Sunday. The wettest will be in the west. Particularly on | :00:40. | :00:44. | |
Sunday in Northern Ireland and western parts of Scotland. Eastern | :00:45. | :00:50. | |
areas drier and brighter. Fairly mild with temperatures into the | :00:51. | :00:54. | |
teens but the mild air will not last, next week we may see sunshine | :00:55. | :01:00. | |
return but called air heading back. Hello, it is Friday, ten o'clock, I | :01:01. | :01:09. | |
am Joanna Gosling. Nonsense and utterly ridiculous - | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
Britain's intelligence agency GCHQ says allegations it spied | :01:13. | :01:14. | |
on Donald Trump should be ignored. Not enough families | :01:15. | :01:17. | |
with disabled children are getting the help they need | :01:18. | :01:22. | |
to care for them. That is according to a group of | :01:23. | :01:30. | |
charities. We have been hearing from a mum about the struggles she has | :01:31. | :01:33. | |
faced. I was having to fight to justify why I needed the help that I | :01:34. | :01:38. | |
needed, and for a parent to have to put their hands up and say, I'm | :01:39. | :01:42. | |
really struggling to look after my daughter, it is a very hard thing to | :01:43. | :01:46. | |
have to admit, for a mother to say that, and I don't think any family | :01:47. | :01:49. | |
should be forced to have to say that. To just marry the boss and | :01:50. | :01:56. | |
live off him, how is that for career advice? We will reveal some of the | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
shopping career advice university students have been given. Have you | :02:00. | :02:11. | |
been given any particular the shopping career advice? Do get in | :02:12. | :02:15. | |
touch. Let's catch up with the news with Annita. Thank you, good | :02:16. | :02:18. | |
morning. Britain's surveillance agency, GCHQ, | :02:19. | :02:20. | |
has described claims that it was asked by President Obama | :02:21. | :02:22. | |
to spy on Donald Trump The unusual move to issue | :02:23. | :02:25. | |
a statement came after White House press secretary Sean Spicer quoted | :02:26. | :02:29. | |
claims first made on US TV channel He did not use the NSA, | :02:30. | :02:31. | |
he did not use the CIA, and he did not use | :02:32. | :02:38. | |
the Department of Justice. It is the initials for the British | :02:39. | :02:42. | |
intelligence spying agency. So simply by having two people | :02:43. | :02:46. | |
saying to them the president needs transcripts of conversations | :02:47. | :02:48. | |
involving candidate Trump, conversations involving | :02:49. | :02:50. | |
President-elect Trump, so he is able to get it | :02:51. | :02:53. | |
and there are no American The SNP will today accuse | :02:54. | :02:56. | |
the Government of being too scared to allow a second independence | :02:57. | :03:00. | |
referendum. Deputy leader Angus Robertson | :03:01. | :03:03. | |
will open his party's spring conference by saying | :03:04. | :03:06. | |
the Conservatives have a "desperate desire" to prevent | :03:07. | :03:09. | |
anyone rejecting Brexit. But Theresa May will tell her own | :03:10. | :03:12. | |
party conference in Cardiff that she'll fight to keep what she calls | :03:13. | :03:15. | |
the "precious union". Hungary is pressing ahead | :03:16. | :03:18. | |
with the construction of two container camps for asylum-seekers | :03:19. | :03:22. | |
on its border with Serbia, despite By the end of March, | :03:23. | :03:24. | |
the government plans to keep all asylum seekers in detention, | :03:25. | :03:30. | |
including families Agencies working on behalf of | :03:31. | :03:43. | |
migrants say the policy by late international law. -- violates. | :03:44. | :03:49. | |
Secondary schools in England could lose the equivalent | :03:50. | :03:51. | |
of six teachers by 2020, according to a think-tank. | :03:52. | :03:53. | |
The Education Policy Institute says schools will see | :03:54. | :03:55. | |
cuts on average of nearly ?300,000 in the next three years. | :03:56. | :03:58. | |
But the Government says funding is at an all-time high | :03:59. | :04:00. | |
The US Secretary of State has said military action | :04:01. | :04:06. | |
against nuclear armed North Korea was an "option on the table". | :04:07. | :04:10. | |
Rex Tillerson made the remarks during a visit to the demilitarised | :04:11. | :04:12. | |
He said the American policy of strategic patience had ended. | :04:13. | :04:18. | |
He was speaking in the South Korean capital, Seoul, after visiting the | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
demilitarised zone. The UK's biggest ever fine | :04:24. | :04:25. | |
for river pollution is expected to be imposed | :04:26. | :04:27. | |
on Thames Water today. The company's admitted | :04:28. | :04:29. | |
to breaching more Stretches of water in Oxfordshire | :04:30. | :04:31. | |
and Buckinghamshire were heavily Southern Railway guards in | :04:32. | :04:34. | |
the RMT union are to stage in the continuing row over staffing | :04:35. | :04:42. | |
and the role of conductors. The news comes after | :04:43. | :04:47. | |
the drivers' union, Aslef, reached a revised deal with the | :04:48. | :04:50. | |
train firm's parent company, Aslef members, | :04:51. | :04:54. | |
who rejected a previous deal struck with the company, | :04:55. | :04:58. | |
are set to vote on the new Haddock caught west of Scotland | :04:59. | :05:01. | |
and in the North Sea has been taken off a list | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
of sustainable fish to eat. The Marine Conservation Society | :05:06. | :05:07. | |
says stocks declined last year and action is needed to boost | :05:08. | :05:10. | |
the number of breeding-age fish. But the decision's been criticised | :05:11. | :05:16. | |
by Scottish fishermen. Indonesia has summoned | :05:17. | :05:22. | |
the British ambassador after a ship operated | :05:23. | :05:24. | |
by a British company ran aground on a coral reef, | :05:25. | :05:27. | |
causing it extensive damage. On 4th March, the 4,290-ton | :05:28. | :05:30. | |
Caledonian Sky hit reefs off an island in Raja Ampat, | :05:31. | :05:34. | |
Papua province, at low tide. The region is famous | :05:35. | :05:36. | |
for its biodiversity and the boat was taking tourists | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
on a bird-watching expedition. The incident has caused outrage | :05:41. | :05:46. | |
in Indonesia and local officials have suggested the captain | :05:47. | :05:48. | |
could face criminal charges. A security sniffer dog has been | :05:49. | :05:54. | |
shot dead at New Zealand's biggest airport after it escaped its leash | :05:55. | :05:57. | |
and grounded flights. Authorities in Auckland | :05:58. | :05:59. | |
said the ten-month old, named called Grizz, | :06:00. | :06:03. | |
could not be captured after it ran away | :06:04. | :06:05. | |
from its handler. why the dog could not have been | :06:06. | :06:08. | |
tranquillised instead. That is a summary of the BBC News, | :06:09. | :06:24. | |
more at 10:30. Olly Foster has the sport. | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
Low again, it is the final day of the Cheltenham Festival, St | :06:29. | :06:31. | |
Patrick's Day of course, and a fabulous week for the Irish horses | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
and trainers and jockeys, every chance that they will be in the | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
winner's enclosure for the Gold Cup later today. That is what everyone | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
will be looking forward to, not sure if Mike Bushell has any Irish | :06:44. | :06:49. | |
connections, but he certainly knows someone in a hat shop! | :06:50. | :06:56. | |
I do! Good morning, yes, I have got friends in a hat shop, I am one | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
eighth Irish, but after last night, probably half, because it was like | :07:01. | :07:04. | |
being in a small corner of Dublin, everyone was singing, they were | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
calling and Ruby Thursday after Ruby Walsh and four winners in seven | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
races, in fine form, and everyone was saying, Djakadam will win the | :07:16. | :07:21. | |
Gold Cup, Ireland will beat England in the Six Nations on Saturday. 30% | :07:22. | :07:26. | |
of the tickets sold for today at Cheltenham on Gold Cup date was sold | :07:27. | :07:30. | |
to people living in Ireland, so like a little Dublin. The Irish are so | :07:31. | :07:34. | |
confident, as you say, ahead of the day and the Gold Cup, but Willie | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
Mullins has never won the big race. So many winners but not the Gold | :07:40. | :07:46. | |
Cup, and there is a corner of Somerset that is trying to stop him | :07:47. | :07:51. | |
again today. Colin Tizzard may not have his best horse here, | :07:52. | :07:54. | |
Thistlecrack, but two fancy runners are challenging Djakadam in the | :07:55. | :08:02. | |
betting stakes, Native River and the people's horse, Cue Card. He works | :08:03. | :08:08. | |
with his head on his chest, he gets to the top, he is a happy horse. He | :08:09. | :08:13. | |
is not ready for anything else yet, he is a racehorse, and T-levels it. | :08:14. | :08:20. | |
I really believe he has got a good chance as he will ever have. -- and | :08:21. | :08:26. | |
he loves it. The Foster flutter is usually based on a horse 's name or | :08:27. | :08:32. | |
whatever coloured silks the jockey is wearing, I know some punters go | :08:33. | :08:35. | |
deeper when they look at the form, the all important going on the | :08:36. | :08:40. | |
course behind you. Yes, somewhere at there the clerk of the cause is | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
walking the course, I do not know if he's going over the fences, but he | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
is inspecting it right now, and heart of the press he was telling me | :08:49. | :08:53. | |
that the conditions are absolutely perfect. Because of that, excuse the | :08:54. | :08:56. | |
pun, it is really a level playing field. He does not think it will | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
favour any particular type of horse, but he thinks the momentum is with | :09:02. | :09:06. | |
the Irish. Well, Ruby and Willie Mullins on fire yesterday, and I saw | :09:07. | :09:13. | |
Djakadam a couple of weeks ago over in Ireland, he was in tremendous | :09:14. | :09:17. | |
form. I was talking to somebody about Native River, whether the | :09:18. | :09:20. | |
ground might be too quick for him, he won at Newbury on softer ground, | :09:21. | :09:25. | |
and the answer was, don't be surprised, he has got a real turn of | :09:26. | :09:28. | |
foot. I am not sure the conditions will be detrimental to any of them, | :09:29. | :09:33. | |
actually. They would be described by the professionals as pretty well | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
perfect. There we go, so even he has been a bit influenced by all the | :09:39. | :09:42. | |
Irish people here today and last night. There is that feeling that it | :09:43. | :09:47. | |
is Gold Cup day and St Patrick's Day, and with the rivalry ahead of | :09:48. | :09:51. | |
the rugby tomorrow, just incredible, the Irish on top after Ruby | :09:52. | :14:36. | |
This is a party four times the size it was in September 20 14th before | :14:37. | :18:59. | |
that first independence referendum. The atmosphere is very buoyant, I | :19:00. | :19:05. | |
think they are determined. I think they believe that with the support | :19:06. | :19:11. | |
of the Greens next week, the other pro-independence party in Scotland, | :19:12. | :19:16. | |
there will be a majority carrying this vote through the Scottish | :19:17. | :19:19. | |
Parliament, and they believe that Theresa May may well say we will not | :19:20. | :19:23. | |
even enter into discussions about section 30, but I think the | :19:24. | :19:29. | |
arguments will turn to you go to defy the Esson -- the SNP. It is a | :19:30. | :19:41. | |
tricky path to negotiate, high-stakes game and we will see | :19:42. | :19:45. | |
more details set out by Nicola Sturgeon tomorrow about what she | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
sees as the options ahead. Thank you both very much for joining us. Angus | :19:50. | :19:53. | |
Robertson from the SNP will be speaking in around 20 minutes, we | :19:54. | :19:59. | |
will listen to what he has to say and bring you whatever he says. | :20:00. | :20:04. | |
Let's bring you some more comments on families looking after disabled | :20:05. | :20:09. | |
children and the lack of help that they are receiving. Very often it is | :20:10. | :20:14. | |
full-time carers, the parents working as full-time carers. Almost | :20:15. | :20:21. | |
seven out of ten families never get any support to caring for their | :20:22. | :20:26. | |
disabled children. Sophie says Olson is six, has severe autism and is | :20:27. | :20:31. | |
mainly nonverbal. -- our son is six. We do not have close family nearby | :20:32. | :20:35. | |
and we had to fight for a briefing, even getting nappies took more than | :20:36. | :20:40. | |
a year to sort out. We still in reams of paperwork to get even the | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
most straightforward things. Getting direct payment has been a huge | :20:45. | :20:48. | |
challenge, we are in the ridiculous situation of having been awarded | :20:49. | :20:51. | |
direct payments but were unable to access them for around six months | :20:52. | :20:55. | |
because nobody would give us the forms we needed to make that | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
possible. There must be a better way of helping families get the | :21:00. | :21:03. | |
resources they need, that does not mean families already under immense | :21:04. | :21:07. | |
pressure should be contending with more pressure, it is not right or | :21:08. | :21:11. | |
caring. Earlier I spoke to Haley, the mother of a disabled child, she | :21:12. | :21:18. | |
spoke about the pressure she faces. You know, we had to be specially | :21:19. | :21:23. | |
trained to react to everything that Holly does. Basically we do the job | :21:24. | :21:29. | |
of an intensive care team at home. Our house is set up all around | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
Holly, we have machines to monitor her oxygen levels, her heartrate, | :21:35. | :21:39. | |
her blood pressure, high temperature. We are constantly | :21:40. | :21:44. | |
monitoring her to keep her well. For years you had absolutely no help, | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
you now get some. What difference does the help that you get a make, | :21:50. | :21:53. | |
what amount are you getting and what difference does it make? For many | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
years we had no help and Ira light on my sister because otherwise I | :21:59. | :22:01. | |
don't know what would have happened to us as a family -- and I relied on | :22:02. | :22:07. | |
my sister. We felt we had reached crisis point as a family. My husband | :22:08. | :22:14. | |
and myself were physically and mentally exhausted just through | :22:15. | :22:17. | |
sheer caring. We then got something called direct payments which is some | :22:18. | :22:24. | |
hours a week which enable us to employ somebody to assist us to just | :22:25. | :22:28. | |
really give Holly a better quality of life, which is all that we really | :22:29. | :22:33. | |
wanted. We found that all the cab that we were doing at home was very | :22:34. | :22:37. | |
intense and we needed to do this but we were missing out on living life | :22:38. | :22:41. | |
as a family -- all the care that we were doing at home. It had an impact | :22:42. | :22:47. | |
on my other children, they are just as important as Holly and family | :22:48. | :22:55. | |
life was seriously compromised, we had no family time together. You | :22:56. | :22:58. | |
have two other kids, don't you? It took a long time to get help, is | :22:59. | :23:02. | |
that because you did not know you are entitled, you took a long time | :23:03. | :23:09. | |
to ask for it? When you have a child with very complex health needs it is | :23:10. | :23:15. | |
a very fragmented system and there is not good signposting. People | :23:16. | :23:22. | |
don't really give you the option of care, I think they expect a lot of | :23:23. | :23:27. | |
parents to know what is out there. I felt I was juggling Holly's care but | :23:28. | :23:32. | |
then having to fight to justify why I needed the help that I needed. For | :23:33. | :23:38. | |
a parent to do that, to put their hands up and say I am really | :23:39. | :23:41. | |
struggling to look after my daughter, it is very hard to admit | :23:42. | :23:46. | |
for a mother to say that. I don't think any family should be forced to | :23:47. | :23:55. | |
have to say that. I think initially what would have worked better is if | :23:56. | :23:57. | |
services around us could recognise the need and early intervention | :23:58. | :24:00. | |
would stop anything like that happening to other families. One of | :24:01. | :24:07. | |
our guests has a 15-year-old child with special additional needs, tell | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
us about your son George? He has a rare genetic syndrome affecting his | :24:12. | :24:18. | |
pancreas and bone marrow and skill Oettl, those are the main | :24:19. | :24:23. | |
characteristics of the syndrome. -- and skeletal. He also has autism of | :24:24. | :24:30. | |
end. He needs 24-hour care, which obviously me and my husband deliver, | :24:31. | :24:38. | |
with family support and a good network of friends. Gosh, tell us | :24:39. | :24:45. | |
about the pressures, we have heard from Hayley, whatever pressures been | :24:46. | :24:49. | |
for your family? You are just managing with the daily challenges | :24:50. | :24:53. | |
that you face, because George has quite a lot of health needs as well | :24:54. | :25:00. | |
as the autism. It is trying to balance... He has lots of regular | :25:01. | :25:06. | |
checkups for his health and helping him cope with daily life. He has to | :25:07. | :25:15. | |
have medication, he needs constant supervision. You get some help, but | :25:16. | :25:24. | |
it was a long time coming? We receive direct payments, and have | :25:25. | :25:27. | |
done for roughly three years. We are somebody to take George out. | :25:28. | :25:31. | |
Unfortunately he is at university so can only offer help during the | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
summer, it has been very difficult to recruit somebody else because | :25:36. | :25:40. | |
this is our son, we don't just want anybody, we want somebody that | :25:41. | :25:48. | |
understands George's needs. Fairly recently we have received a short | :25:49. | :25:54. | |
break facility through Action For Children. Unfortunately we only get | :25:55. | :26:00. | |
one night a month, which is not a lot, really. However, George has | :26:01. | :26:05. | |
coped extremely well with it, it has brought him on, his independence, he | :26:06. | :26:09. | |
loves going. He is there with other peers, it broadens his spectrum, | :26:10. | :26:20. | |
really, of meeting new people. Our next battle and fight is to ask for | :26:21. | :26:25. | |
extra nights sober George could perhaps stay for a weekend and give | :26:26. | :26:31. | |
my husband and I a break from the caring -- extra nights so that | :26:32. | :26:34. | |
George could perhaps stay for a weekend. You work as well, life must | :26:35. | :26:40. | |
feel relentless? After having George, after the initial year when | :26:41. | :26:46. | |
George had his diagnosis and stuff I went back to work. I went back past | :26:47. | :26:52. | |
time. An opportunity for some career progression came up so I went | :26:53. | :26:56. | |
full-time, unfortunately I could only sustain that for four months | :26:57. | :27:02. | |
and realised with the pressures of all the different things, George's | :27:03. | :27:07. | |
needs, I would have to retreat back to part-time. Obviously my husband | :27:08. | :27:13. | |
works full-time. Yeah, its impact did our lives, really. | :27:14. | :27:19. | |
Those were two mothers of disabled children talking about their | :27:20. | :27:22. | |
struggles in caring with very little help. | :27:23. | :27:24. | |
Let's join Annita McVeigh for news update. | :27:25. | :27:30. | |
GCHQ has described claims it was asked by President Obama to spy on | :27:31. | :27:38. | |
Donald Trump as ridiculous. This came after the White House Secretary | :27:39. | :27:43. | |
quoted a claims made on a US TV channel this week. The SNP will | :27:44. | :27:48. | |
today accuse the Government of being too scared to allowed a second | :27:49. | :27:53. | |
independence referendum. Angus Robertson will open the party's | :27:54. | :27:59. | |
spring conference by saying the Conservatives want to reject anyone | :28:00. | :28:04. | |
wanting Brexit. Theresa May said she will fight to keep the union. | :28:05. | :28:14. | |
Hungary is pressing ahead with the construction of two camps for | :28:15. | :28:18. | |
refugees. By the end of March the government plans to keep all asylum | :28:19. | :28:27. | |
seekers in detention. Agencies working for them say it violates | :28:28. | :28:32. | |
international law. Secondary schools in England could lose te kwif lent | :28:33. | :28:40. | |
of six teach -- the equivalent of six teachers by 2020, according to a | :28:41. | :28:45. | |
thank tank. The government says funding is at an all-time high and | :28:46. | :28:50. | |
will continue to rise. A court in Japan has ruled that the Japanese | :28:51. | :28:56. | |
Government was negligent in failing to prepare for the tsunami that | :28:57. | :29:02. | |
triggered Fukushima disasters. People who were forced to leave the | :29:03. | :29:07. | |
area brought the case. The court ruled the operator of the plant and | :29:08. | :29:11. | |
the Japanese government were negligent, because they failed to | :29:12. | :29:16. | |
prepare for the earthquake and tsunami that triggered the kis | :29:17. | :29:30. | |
disaster. A ship has caused damage in Indonesia. The ship hit reefs off | :29:31. | :29:42. | |
an island at low tide. The region is famous for its biodiversity. The | :29:43. | :29:47. | |
incident has caused outrage in Indonesia and it is suggested the | :29:48. | :29:52. | |
captain could face criminal charges. Haddock caught west of Scotland has | :29:53. | :29:57. | |
been taken off a list of sustainable fish. The Marine Conservation | :29:58. | :30:05. | |
Society said stocks declined and action is needed. A security sniffer | :30:06. | :30:11. | |
dog has been shot dead at New Zealand's largest airport after it | :30:12. | :30:15. | |
escaped its leash and grounded flights. Authorities said the ten | :30:16. | :30:22. | |
month old couldn't be captured after it ran from its handler. Animal | :30:23. | :30:27. | |
rights groups have asked why the dog could not have been tranquillised | :30:28. | :30:33. | |
instead. That is the latest news. Join me at 11 o'clock. Now the | :30:34. | :30:40. | |
sport. Manchester United are through to the Europa League quart finals | :30:41. | :30:46. | |
after beating Rostov 1-0 at Old Trafford last night to go through | :30:47. | :30:51. | |
2-1 on aggregate. The draw is in the next hour and a half. United are | :30:52. | :30:58. | |
favourites to lift the trophy. The quart for the quarters of Champions | :30:59. | :31:01. | |
League takes place this morning. Leicester, the only British club | :31:02. | :31:05. | |
left, could face Barcelona, Real Madrid or Bayern Munich. And Nichols | :31:06. | :31:15. | |
canyon won the stayers' hurdle at Cheltenham yesterday. Warrington's | :31:16. | :31:27. | |
woeful start to the Super League season continued last night. They | :31:28. | :31:34. | |
lost 22-8 at Leigh centurions. That is all the sport for this morning. | :31:35. | :31:46. | |
Thank you. Now back to our main news, Britain's surveillance agency | :31:47. | :31:52. | |
GCHQ has described claims that it was asked by President Obama to spy | :31:53. | :31:58. | |
on Donald Trump as ridiculous. It said claims are nonsense and should | :31:59. | :32:09. | |
be ignored. A former MI5 officer, Ben Oliver joins us and Crispin | :32:10. | :32:17. | |
Black. Crispin Black, do you think that this is just a ridiculous | :32:18. | :32:22. | |
premise? I don't think it's ridiculous at all. The trouble is we | :32:23. | :32:30. | |
are going up a cul-de-sac, we have been subjected to a cascade of | :32:31. | :32:37. | |
anonymously-sourced so-called information about Donald Trump's | :32:38. | :32:41. | |
connection to Russia. There is no evidence for that. But it has been | :32:42. | :32:47. | |
covered generouslily in the press. Now the the White House has hit back | :32:48. | :32:57. | |
with allegations of its own and they're being dismissed. It seems | :32:58. | :33:01. | |
inconsistent to cover these stories in that way. What is your view Ben | :33:02. | :33:12. | |
Owen? As GCHQ have put it, it is ridiculous, these allegations don't | :33:13. | :33:16. | |
have any evidence, unless something has changed overnight. It is not | :33:17. | :33:21. | |
something that British intelligence would entertain in my opinion. It is | :33:22. | :33:28. | |
not lawful. British intelligence is inherently covered by processes and | :33:29. | :33:32. | |
law and they stick to it. They have to stick to the law, the letter of | :33:33. | :33:37. | |
the law. It is governed very well. This is not something GCHQ would do | :33:38. | :33:41. | |
and as they have said, I think it is ridiculous. Crispin Black, they have | :33:42. | :33:46. | |
to stick to processes and the law. Do they? Well we just don't know. | :33:47. | :33:55. | |
These allegations are from anonymous source and they're unproven. But the | :33:56. | :34:01. | |
White House spokesman commander Spicer says clearly that there is | :34:02. | :34:07. | |
something in them. So do you either believe the GCHQ spokesman or Donald | :34:08. | :34:15. | |
Trump's spokesman. It depends on your political views about what is | :34:16. | :34:18. | |
happening in the United States. There doesn't seem to be any middle | :34:19. | :34:25. | |
ground. Remember the NSA in the United States is covered by law, but | :34:26. | :34:33. | |
look at we found about them, Chancellor Merkel's phone bugged. | :34:34. | :34:37. | |
Sometimes, intelligence agencies it may well not be the case this time, | :34:38. | :34:44. | |
sometimes they operate the law and the bounds of common-sense. You say | :34:45. | :34:51. | |
who do you believe, nothing has come out in the United States to give any | :34:52. | :34:56. | |
credibility to the claims in terms of evidence has it? No, but but | :34:57. | :35:02. | |
nothing's come out to give credibility to the concerns about | :35:03. | :35:06. | |
Trump's connections to Russia, there is no smoking gun, there doesn't | :35:07. | :35:10. | |
appear to be any evidence, the media have been covering it with relish. | :35:11. | :35:14. | |
It seems to me you have either got to believe the Russian allegations | :35:15. | :35:19. | |
about Trump are baloney, in which case the GCHQ allegations are | :35:20. | :35:24. | |
probably baloney, if you believe the Russian allegations, there might be | :35:25. | :35:29. | |
something in them, it is logical you believe these allegations about GCHQ | :35:30. | :35:35. | |
there may be some basis in fact. Ben Owens what, do you say to that? I | :35:36. | :35:41. | |
have to agree that yes, your opinion is very much based on your political | :35:42. | :35:47. | |
views in America now, this is a phenomenon we're experiencing in | :35:48. | :35:50. | |
America, no one saw it coming and the narrative is quite exciting and | :35:51. | :35:57. | |
what way do you go, are you pro or not pro-Trump. The broader issue | :35:58. | :36:02. | |
dates back to the Snowdon revelations. Post-Snowdon, everyone | :36:03. | :36:08. | |
now is, or most people are suspicious of intelligence agencies. | :36:09. | :36:12. | |
So I think stories like this now have a bit of credence. They are a | :36:13. | :36:19. | |
bit more interesting, the media are listening more than they would | :36:20. | :36:24. | |
pre-Snowdon. The internet phenomenon, I can go on the internet | :36:25. | :36:29. | |
and find any answer I want if I punch it in. I think people are | :36:30. | :36:32. | |
missing the broader point with respect of the British intelligence | :36:33. | :36:38. | |
agencies have a very good relationship with US intelligence | :36:39. | :36:45. | |
agencies and the five Is, Australia, Canada and America are going to work | :36:46. | :36:52. | |
together and Trump and his team are stepping on dangerous ground by | :36:53. | :36:55. | |
these accusations. They need to back it up with some evidence. If it is | :36:56. | :37:02. | |
evidence, and if it is true, I will be very shocked, but from be I'm | :37:03. | :37:09. | |
standing, having worked with GCHQ and wider intelligence communities, | :37:10. | :37:15. | |
I can tell you this is noting in something that would be entertained. | :37:16. | :37:21. | |
Let's bring in your security correspondent, Frank Gardner. Is it | :37:22. | :37:32. | |
ary -- - ridiculous claim. It is rare for Britain's intelligence | :37:33. | :37:36. | |
agencies to come out and deny anything like this. So for them to | :37:37. | :37:42. | |
take this step, they must be pretty sure of what they're saying, because | :37:43. | :37:47. | |
they would look fools, they would have their credibility destroyed if | :37:48. | :37:50. | |
they were to come out and deny it and then it turned out to be true. | :37:51. | :37:56. | |
So you know, usually they say we neither confirm or deny and we never | :37:57. | :37:59. | |
comment on matters of intelligence. This time they have. They wanted to | :38:00. | :38:05. | |
nip this in the bud. The source of this is a media commentator, a | :38:06. | :38:11. | |
former judge, spoking on Fox News. It is not as if it is sourced from | :38:12. | :38:16. | |
is somewhere solid. It is a comment that has been picked up by the White | :38:17. | :38:22. | |
House. This is a dangerous development as your commentators | :38:23. | :38:26. | |
mentioned, Britain and the United States have the closest intelligence | :38:27. | :38:30. | |
operation sharing of any two nations, the wider group of five Is, | :38:31. | :38:39. | |
they this close co-operation. Now it is unheard of that you could be in a | :38:40. | :38:44. | |
situation where those agencies, which report to supreme elected | :38:45. | :38:49. | |
power, No 10 and the Foreign Office in Britain and the White House in | :38:50. | :38:55. | |
the United States, that they are now effectively contradicting that | :38:56. | :38:57. | |
supreme political power in Washington. This is is a very | :38:58. | :39:02. | |
unhealthy state of affairs where you have real threats, proper threats, | :39:03. | :39:08. | |
North Korea's nuclear weapons development, Iran's missiles, Russia | :39:09. | :39:13. | |
resurgent, these are real threats. This isn't fake news, this is | :39:14. | :39:16. | |
happening. Syria. Some real problems. You can't have this | :39:17. | :39:21. | |
situation where the White House says one thing and then their allies says | :39:22. | :39:29. | |
no that is rubbish. I think on balance, I probably believe GCHQ. It | :39:30. | :39:34. | |
would be they would look fools if they were to issue that denial and | :39:35. | :39:39. | |
it was true. What could be the fallout? Well, the ball is now back | :39:40. | :39:45. | |
in the court of White House, because they're already on the back foot, | :39:46. | :39:50. | |
because Donald Trump did that tweet and is standing by his allegation | :39:51. | :39:57. | |
that President Obama ordered a wire tap on Trump Tower, of which there | :39:58. | :40:00. | |
is no evidence, they feel they have got to find something on this and if | :40:01. | :40:05. | |
you remember Sean Spicer, the press spokesman, has said he didn't get | :40:06. | :40:10. | |
the CIA to do it or the NSA or the FBI. So he did it through GCHQ. That | :40:11. | :40:18. | |
is such a specific allegation about Britain's listening station that | :40:19. | :40:25. | |
they felt compelled to deny it. There is close co-operation between | :40:26. | :40:31. | |
GCHQ and the SNA and just as Crispin Black said, some of the things have | :40:32. | :40:38. | |
come out that are alarming, MI5 has allegedly worked with the Americans | :40:39. | :40:43. | |
to develop software that can hack into people's phones and plot their | :40:44. | :40:51. | |
movements and they're not interested in, sorry nothing personal, where | :40:52. | :40:57. | |
you do your shopping, but who is planning terrorist attacks, who is | :40:58. | :41:01. | |
running guns and organising sex trafficking. That is the stuff | :41:02. | :41:06. | |
they're after. In terms of the allegations of hacking, is there | :41:07. | :41:11. | |
going to be an inquiry, an investigation? Will we get to the | :41:12. | :41:19. | |
bottom of it. Into which bit? The wire tapping. Well the Senate | :41:20. | :41:23. | |
intelligence committee said there is no evidence, but they have given the | :41:24. | :41:29. | |
White House, initially they gave them a tight deadline. They have | :41:30. | :41:33. | |
extended that, but they have got less than a week for the White House | :41:34. | :41:38. | |
to come up with this evidence. And I imagine they're probably thrashing | :41:39. | :41:42. | |
around. Donald Trump has put them in, the White House, in a difficult | :41:43. | :41:46. | |
position, he has tweeted this thing without any evidence and he needs to | :41:47. | :41:50. | |
try and find something. Currently Sean Spicer and the sort of press | :41:51. | :41:55. | |
around the White House are trying to sort of blur the issues and say, he | :41:56. | :41:59. | |
didn't mean specifically that President Obama ordered it. That | :42:00. | :42:03. | |
what is the tweet said. So he has got himself in a bind there. But | :42:04. | :42:08. | |
let's not forget what Crispin Black said, you know, there have been | :42:09. | :42:17. | |
buggings of Angela Merkel's phone. There is distrust between Germany | :42:18. | :42:21. | |
and the United States. Germany has strict laws on anti-sur swral lance, | :42:22. | :42:26. | |
that is why they have so few CCTV cameras and that is one reason why | :42:27. | :42:29. | |
it was easy for the terrorist attacks to take place in Germany. | :42:30. | :42:36. | |
Because of the Stasi background in east Germany, they're against | :42:37. | :42:40. | |
surveillance. So we should try and keep an open mind. Now the | :42:41. | :42:45. | |
indications that are that allegation about GCHQ is nonsense. Thank you. | :42:46. | :42:49. | |
We are going to go to Aberdeen, where the SNP deputy leader Angus | :42:50. | :42:53. | |
Robertson is making a speech at the party's spring conference. | :42:54. | :43:00. | |
We cannot drift along for the next two years and hope for the best. We | :43:01. | :43:07. | |
face the very real prospect of a right-wing Tory government had to | :43:08. | :43:10. | |
Middle East 2030, and being dragged out of the EU and the single market | :43:11. | :43:14. | |
with all the damage to the economy and society that that will cause. If | :43:15. | :43:18. | |
the Prime Minister refuses to engage on the terms of the election before | :43:19. | :43:23. | |
Brexit takes place, she is effectively trying to block the | :43:24. | :43:26. | |
people of Scotland from having a choice over their future. That would | :43:27. | :43:30. | |
be a democratic outrage. APPLAUSE | :43:31. | :43:41. | |
If Scotland can be ignored on an issue as important as our membership | :43:42. | :43:45. | |
of the EU in the single market, it is clear that our boys and interests | :43:46. | :43:51. | |
can be ignored at any time and on any issue. | :43:52. | :43:55. | |
When the terms of Brexit are known, and not before, we will give the | :43:56. | :43:59. | |
people the choice over the direction Scotland should take before it is | :44:00. | :44:05. | |
too late to change course. Before people make that choice we will set | :44:06. | :44:10. | |
out the challenges and opportunities of independence, in particular how | :44:11. | :44:14. | |
to secure our relationship with Europe, build a stronger economy, a | :44:15. | :44:20. | |
fairer society and forge a genuine partnership of equals across these | :44:21. | :44:26. | |
islands. This has been a week of total chaos for the UK Government, | :44:27. | :44:32. | |
including the screeching, embarrass think you turn on Tory Budget plans | :44:33. | :44:37. | |
to attack the self-employed. The contrast between the Scottish | :44:38. | :44:40. | |
Government and office minister could not have been clearer. I am | :44:41. | :44:45. | |
immensely proud of the principled leadership we have seen from our | :44:46. | :44:48. | |
leader, Nicola Sturgeon. APPLAUSE | :44:49. | :45:02. | |
We are so very fortunate in a time of instability and uncertainty | :45:03. | :45:08. | |
caused by the hard Brexit fixation of the Tories to have the First | :45:09. | :45:13. | |
Minister he was respected not just in Scotland but elsewhere in the UK | :45:14. | :45:18. | |
and Europe for her efforts to protect us from the dangerous and | :45:19. | :45:23. | |
damaging Tory hard Brexit. It is under her leadership that we have | :45:24. | :45:27. | |
seen a willingness to secure a compromise agreement with the UK | :45:28. | :45:31. | |
Government and we should not forget that it was the Prime Minister who | :45:32. | :45:36. | |
said that she wanted a UK wide approach, an agreement with the | :45:37. | :45:40. | |
devolved administrations of Scotland, Wales and Northern | :45:41. | :45:43. | |
Ireland, before triggering Article 50. It is Nicola Sturgeon who | :45:44. | :45:48. | |
responded to the promise of that agreement and made a detailed | :45:49. | :45:52. | |
compromise proposal, one that would protect our place in the single | :45:53. | :45:57. | |
market, have the appropriate arrangements for EU citizens | :45:58. | :46:01. | |
contributing and living here and all of that within the United Kingdom. | :46:02. | :46:07. | |
It isn't she and the Scottish Government ministers who have | :46:08. | :46:12. | |
attended meeting after meeting with UK Government ministers and the | :46:13. | :46:18. | |
Prime Minister and absolutely no concrete progress has come | :46:19. | :46:21. | |
whatsoever from the Tory Government side -- it is she. Contrast that | :46:22. | :46:28. | |
with the leadership offered by Theresa May who, of course, | :46:29. | :46:31. | |
originally warned that Brexit would be a disaster, but it is she that is | :46:32. | :46:38. | |
heading towards the most extreme form of Brexit imaginable. She is | :46:39. | :46:41. | |
planning to take us out of the single market. She wants to keep | :46:42. | :46:46. | |
powers over Scottish agriculture and fisheries at Westminster. She is | :46:47. | :46:51. | |
playing games with EU citizens and she is doing anything that she can | :46:52. | :46:57. | |
to run away from her promise to only proceed once she had an agreement | :46:58. | :47:02. | |
with the Scottish Government. Chewing this week, I asked her three | :47:03. | :47:06. | |
times when she would reach that agreement with the Scottish | :47:07. | :47:11. | |
Government before triggering Article 50, and three times she failed to | :47:12. | :47:15. | |
answer. You might have seen her on Prime Minister's Questions wagging | :47:16. | :47:22. | |
her finger towards Scotland and lecturing us on what is good for us | :47:23. | :47:27. | |
as if we were naughty children who should shut up and sit on the | :47:28. | :47:32. | |
naughty step. Well, I've got news for you, Prime Minister. Your mask | :47:33. | :47:38. | |
has slipped and the real face of Tory arrogance is all to see. | :47:39. | :47:40. | |
APPLAUSE -- is there for all to see. | :47:41. | :47:56. | |
What you're arrogant bluster does not conceal is that you have no | :47:57. | :48:01. | |
intention whatsoever of reaching a deal with the Scottish Government. | :48:02. | :48:06. | |
You intend to break your promise to Scotland and you think that you can | :48:07. | :48:10. | |
get away with it. Well, let me be absolutely clear to Theresa May, you | :48:11. | :48:17. | |
are not going to get away with it. APPLAUSE | :48:18. | :48:25. | |
STUDIO: Angus Robertson at the SNP conference, Nicola Sturgeon | :48:26. | :48:27. | |
listening and looking on and the ongoing row, of course, over the | :48:28. | :48:31. | |
timing of the Scottish independence referendum. | :48:32. | :48:45. | |
Up next, how would you feel if you were told you didn't look | :48:46. | :48:48. | |
Or worse still, that your chances of succeeding are slim | :48:49. | :48:52. | |
because you're a woman or have the wrong colour skin? | :48:53. | :48:54. | |
It might sound like something you would hear decades ago - | :48:55. | :48:57. | |
but those of are the kinds of things some university students are still | :48:58. | :49:00. | |
A survey of more than two thousand students across the UK has found | :49:01. | :49:04. | |
sexist and often discriminatory advice is being given by some | :49:05. | :49:07. | |
employers, fellow professionals and even family and friends to those | :49:08. | :49:09. | |
just starting out on the career ladder. | :49:10. | :49:11. | |
So, just how damaging is this sort of advice and what affect | :49:12. | :49:14. | |
In the studio this morning are James Uffindell | :49:15. | :49:17. | |
from the Bright Network - a network connecting | :49:18. | :49:19. | |
graduates and employers - they also carried out the survey. | :49:20. | :49:21. | |
Postgraduate student Reesha Siniara is also here - | :49:22. | :49:23. | |
she ended up studying English Literature at | :49:24. | :49:25. | |
university and not economics, which is what she really wanted | :49:26. | :49:27. | |
to do, because of careers advice she was given. | :49:28. | :49:29. | |
Also here is third year undergraduate economics student | :49:30. | :49:31. | |
Kiran Kapoor who says negative comments about women not | :49:32. | :49:33. | |
being to achieve have made her more determined to succeed. | :49:34. | :49:36. | |
And lastly, Readha Park, who is 20-year-old maths student | :49:37. | :49:38. | |
from Bristol is here too - she says she's fighting to make it | :49:39. | :49:41. | |
in the male dominated world of finance and receives | :49:42. | :49:43. | |
Thank you all very much for joining us. James, firstly, one of the real | :49:44. | :49:55. | |
crackers with somebody being told, married the boss? Absolutely, we | :49:56. | :50:00. | |
have released our latest research which is with me, it is frankly at | :50:01. | :50:04. | |
the state of careers advice. Lots of work is being done but we need to do | :50:05. | :50:08. | |
a lot more, we have half a million graduates coming out of UK | :50:09. | :50:12. | |
universities this year but 50% of graduate employers do not fill | :50:13. | :50:17. | |
vacancies, we currently work with around 250 top employers like PWC, | :50:18. | :50:22. | |
they want to find the best talent that they are struggling because it | :50:23. | :50:26. | |
does not know about what it can do. Every year in the UK we have around | :50:27. | :50:31. | |
78% graduate and payment rate, in Germany it is only 2%. We are | :50:32. | :50:38. | |
wasting valuable resources. Reesha, I said you wanted to study... You | :50:39. | :50:43. | |
have entered a studying English literature rather than what you | :50:44. | :50:48. | |
wanted to study, why? -- ended up studying English literature? Down to | :50:49. | :50:54. | |
advice given at college. Before I considered going to university I was | :50:55. | :50:58. | |
told that a woman like me would never make it in the Finance and | :50:59. | :51:02. | |
banking industry. What did you take that to mean? This posting did not | :51:03. | :51:08. | |
really know much about me, all they knew was my age, ethnicity and | :51:09. | :51:13. | |
gender. I assumed what they meant was that something to do with that | :51:14. | :51:16. | |
was the reason I would not make it in that industry. The fact it had an | :51:17. | :51:23. | |
effect? They said that teaching would be the easier route for you, | :51:24. | :51:27. | |
that is why I did not think at the time that I would be able to do | :51:28. | :51:31. | |
economic Scunners so I chose English literature. I still love to my | :51:32. | :51:36. | |
degree anyway but I think that advice that such an influential age | :51:37. | :51:41. | |
steered me from the path I wanted to go down. Kiran, you have had | :51:42. | :51:45. | |
negative comments, what have you heard? Talking to people in a casual | :51:46. | :51:51. | |
conversation and you drop that you are doing an internship in banking | :51:52. | :51:56. | |
or going to spring we Goore banking networking event and somebody would | :51:57. | :51:58. | |
make a comment in passing saying I did not think you were the type of | :51:59. | :52:02. | |
the banking, you would think, I didn't know there was a tight and | :52:03. | :52:07. | |
that I do not fit, in your eyes. Are these more generic comments or | :52:08. | :52:13. | |
coming careers advisers? Not just careers advisers but generally | :52:14. | :52:17. | |
people you think of as friends or people you meet at various events, | :52:18. | :52:21. | |
people at university, very generally. Sometimes they don't seem | :52:22. | :52:26. | |
to come across directed but happen in passing, intended with humour | :52:27. | :52:31. | |
attached. Readha, at one stage you were told to be prepared to hit a | :52:32. | :52:36. | |
ceiling in your career, who told you that? Family friends, when my mum | :52:37. | :52:41. | |
tells them what degree I am doing at university, they are quite taken | :52:42. | :52:50. | |
apart and say, why is she studying so hard when she will just end up | :52:51. | :52:53. | |
starting a family and all of that will go to waste? They say I need to | :52:54. | :52:56. | |
be prepared to make a decision whether I want my career or to start | :52:57. | :53:03. | |
a family. What about careers advice? Have you had helpful formal advice? | :53:04. | :53:09. | |
That is individual 's' perspectives, not involved in advising your | :53:10. | :53:14. | |
career? My careers adviser at my school has been really supportive, | :53:15. | :53:18. | |
they have always pushed girls to go into sciences, STEM subjects, making | :53:19. | :53:26. | |
sure they make their way in a male dominated sector. But I had a lady | :53:27. | :53:30. | |
who once told me I should be prepared to hit a glass ceiling | :53:31. | :53:35. | |
because she had to make a choice as well when she got to the age, I will | :53:36. | :53:41. | |
need to do the same. That was a careers adviser? How did that make | :53:42. | :53:46. | |
you feel? I was quite taken aback because I had never really felt any | :53:47. | :53:50. | |
different because of my gender, my mum has raised me and my brother is | :53:51. | :53:55. | |
really equally, I have always been really sporty, part of the Air | :53:56. | :53:59. | |
Cadets, then suddenly having a woman telling me I will need to make a | :54:00. | :54:03. | |
decision and can't have it both is quite shocking, really. James, I | :54:04. | :54:11. | |
know with your research you sought the views of men and women, did many | :54:12. | :54:14. | |
men have examples of terrible careers advice or doesn't seem to be | :54:15. | :54:18. | |
female focused? The more shocking elements came from the women, there | :54:19. | :54:22. | |
was a bit with the men but for example one of members was told, | :54:23. | :54:28. | |
basically, you don't need a career, you are a pretty girl, married the | :54:29. | :54:32. | |
boss and the live of him. It is absolutely shocking, if you think. | :54:33. | :54:37. | |
You don't have too think hard to find that shocking! Another woman | :54:38. | :54:40. | |
was told that as a black female she would never become a successful | :54:41. | :54:48. | |
lawyer. We have been amazed. Who is actually monitoring the sort of | :54:49. | :54:56. | |
advice, the comments being given? In terms of governmental organisation? | :54:57. | :55:00. | |
There is a lot of good work being done in the sector but, | :55:01. | :55:03. | |
fundamentally, lots more needs to be done around this. This is why a set | :55:04. | :55:08. | |
of The Brighton Network, essentially you are sent to university after | :55:09. | :55:13. | |
school and it is what next, lots of career services are doing very good | :55:14. | :55:17. | |
work, but the network giving individual advice is key, that is | :55:18. | :55:25. | |
what we are trying to do at the Bright Network. Female | :55:26. | :55:30. | |
undergraduates expect a starting salary of around 30 K, men expect | :55:31. | :55:36. | |
around 40 K, there is a ten K difference. Why that assumption? | :55:37. | :55:43. | |
Ultimately nobody knows. My sense is that it is qualitative around this | :55:44. | :55:48. | |
kind of advice that we are seeing around we need to get female | :55:49. | :55:52. | |
students believing, as the men often do, that they can strive for the | :55:53. | :55:57. | |
really big careers. Have any of you had examples of being told what you | :55:58. | :55:59. | |
might expect to be paid compared to men? No. I have been told I will | :56:00. | :56:06. | |
have to work harder to reach the same salary as male peers. Who told | :56:07. | :56:14. | |
you that? A teacher at school said I would have to work harder and really | :56:15. | :56:17. | |
make sure that I did my job well to get the same level of play. Either | :56:18. | :56:23. | |
of you? I have had some advice and comments made, not be early age but | :56:24. | :56:28. | |
later, especially, when you think about having a family and want to | :56:29. | :56:32. | |
balance your work and home life, looking after children, you will | :56:33. | :56:36. | |
have to work a lot harder at that stage to try to progress in the same | :56:37. | :56:40. | |
way that men do, men don't need to take these things into consideration | :56:41. | :56:44. | |
but it is something you would have to take into. | :56:45. | :56:48. | |
Similarly, I have been told that bosses tend not to invest in women | :56:49. | :56:52. | |
because they assume that they will go off and have a family, so they | :56:53. | :56:57. | |
would rather progress and give promotions or a pay rise to men. So | :56:58. | :57:02. | |
I should not be expecting the same thing. I said the things that you | :57:03. | :57:10. | |
were told early on impact it on your choices, Reesha, where are you now? | :57:11. | :57:16. | |
When I was told it at that early age, 15 or 16, I took it very | :57:17. | :57:20. | |
seriously. But now I have understood what they meant and how I should not | :57:21. | :57:24. | |
really pay attention, I should succeed and do what I want, so I am | :57:25. | :57:29. | |
doing a Masters in management and have secured a graduate job for | :57:30. | :57:34. | |
September, so I think I have pushed it aside and I have realised that I | :57:35. | :57:38. | |
just need to work hard at what I do and be the best that I can be. | :57:39. | :57:48. | |
Thank you all very much for coming. BBC Newsroom Live is coming up in a | :57:49. | :57:53. | |
few moments, thank you very much for your company. Let me see if we have | :57:54. | :57:56. | |
more comments, we have had so many comments from you on parents caring | :57:57. | :58:02. | |
for disabled children. Sarah says I am a parent to five-year-old with | :58:03. | :58:08. | |
complex health needs and learning difficulties, there are daily | :58:09. | :58:11. | |
attacks of paralysis, we are ritual working households and had to be, | :58:12. | :58:14. | |
there was no support for working families and services are often | :58:15. | :58:17. | |
confused. Thank you for all your comments on | :58:18. | :58:22. | |
that story and for your company. Have a lovely weekend, see you very | :58:23. | :58:23. | |
soon. Goodbye. It's great that you could | :58:24. | :58:32. | |
come in for this, Lenny. So in terms of things for you | :58:33. | :58:33. | |
on the night itself... Right. Siobhan's been doing a... So this | :58:34. | :58:38. | |
year the idea is...funny. | :58:39. | :58:42. |