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Hello, it's Monday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire, | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
This morning, new figures obtained by this programme show there's | :00:07. | :00:14. | |
a backlog of more than ?3.8 billion in unpaid child | :00:15. | :00:18. | |
It affects over a million parents; we'll meet some of them. | :00:19. | :00:27. | |
When I've paid my bills, I haven't got any money. I have ?8. 50 after | :00:28. | :00:36. | |
my salary had been paid and I paid all the bills. It would be nice for | :00:37. | :00:39. | |
the dad to have the respect. Also on the programme, | :00:40. | :00:41. | |
a man is being held on suspicion of the murder of a one-year-old boy | :00:42. | :00:44. | |
in North London and the attempted And, did you feel scrutinised | :00:45. | :00:47. | |
and judged as a new mum? We'll hear about research which says | :00:48. | :00:52. | |
lots of new mums feel their every move including what they eat, | :00:53. | :00:55. | |
drink and give to their child is being monitored by friends, | :00:56. | :00:58. | |
family and even total strangers. More on that to come | :00:59. | :01:01. | |
before 10 this morning. Hi, I'm Anna. I felt judged in a pub | :01:02. | :01:13. | |
garden with my thought earn at midday when I was drinking half | :01:14. | :01:16. | |
apple juice half soda. I felt it was my decision to be there and it was | :01:17. | :01:20. | |
my decision to drink that drink and I wasn't putting her in danger. I'm | :01:21. | :01:29. | |
Sky, I had my son when I was 19 and felt judged for being a young mum. | :01:30. | :01:41. | |
Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11. | :01:42. | :01:44. | |
Throughout the morning - the latest breaking news | :01:45. | :01:46. | |
and developing stories and we'll be celebrating the birthday of this | :01:47. | :02:00. | |
woman. - Dame Vera Lynn the forces sweetheart | :02:01. | :02:03. | |
who is 100 today...she's been performing since she was 7 years | :02:04. | :02:06. | |
old but really came to prominence when she entertained the troops | :02:07. | :02:10. | |
Use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, | :02:11. | :02:15. | |
you will be charged at the standard network rate. | :02:16. | :02:17. | |
Police have arrested a man on suspicion of murdering | :02:18. | :02:21. | |
a one-year-old boy at a flat in North London. | :02:22. | :02:24. | |
The man will also be questioned on suspicion | :02:25. | :02:26. | |
of attempting to murder a girl, thought to be the boy's twin sister. | :02:27. | :02:29. | |
Our reporter Kathryn Stancheshun is at the scene. | :02:30. | :02:34. | |
What is the latest? As you can see, Wilberforce Road here in Finsbury | :02:35. | :02:42. | |
Park remains cordoned off this morning and manned by Metropolitan | :02:43. | :02:46. | |
police officers. There's been some intense police activity on this | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
street in the last 24 hours. Forensic teams going in and out of | :02:51. | :02:54. | |
the cream property just up there, the top flat where this incident | :02:55. | :02:59. | |
happened. Also, many house-to-house inquiries taking place yesterday and | :03:00. | :03:02. | |
police are still talking to some of the residents on this street this | :03:03. | :03:07. | |
morning. What we know is that 11pm on Saturday night, there were | :03:08. | :03:14. | |
reports of noises, of shouting and screaming, and of a woman asking for | :03:15. | :03:18. | |
help. Police arrive add the flat to find the two children, a | :03:19. | :03:21. | |
one-year-old boy and one-year-old girl with severe injuries. They were | :03:22. | :03:25. | |
both taken to hospital but sadly the little boy later died. Now, police | :03:26. | :03:33. | |
have arrested a 33-year-old man. They earlier yesterday put out an | :03:34. | :03:37. | |
appeal to speak to the man in connection with this incident. He's | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
believed to be the twin's father. He's being questioned at an East | :03:43. | :03:47. | |
London police station this morning. An update on the little girl - we | :03:48. | :03:52. | |
know she remains in a critical but stable condition. It's understood | :03:53. | :03:56. | |
she was taken to one hospital in London yesterday then transferred to | :03:57. | :04:02. | |
another for more specialist care. Police say that they believe a | :04:03. | :04:06. | |
postmortem examination is going to take place of the little boy in due | :04:07. | :04:09. | |
course. That could possibly be later today. Thank you very much. | :04:10. | :04:13. | |
Care companies have cancelled contracts with 95 UK councils, | :04:14. | :04:23. | |
saying they cannot deliver services for the amount they are being paid. | :04:24. | :04:26. | |
A BBC Panorama investigation found some firms said | :04:27. | :04:28. | |
they could not recruit or retain the staff they needed. | :04:29. | :04:31. | |
Good morning. Amanda is one of the UK's 800,000 home care workers. | :04:32. | :04:42. | |
Today she's with a former teacher William Williams who has multiple | :04:43. | :04:47. | |
sclerosis. Amanda's paid ?7. 55 an hour, just above the national living | :04:48. | :04:51. | |
wage and, like many warth care workers, she struggles to make ends | :04:52. | :04:54. | |
meet. She's on a zero hours contract which means her hours are not | :04:55. | :05:04. | |
guaranteed. They did look into paying more four years ago but they | :05:05. | :05:13. | |
couldn't do it. It's hard. Amanda is employed in Bangor. The firm is paid | :05:14. | :05:19. | |
by local councils to provide home care but it currently has 30 | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
vacancies and is struggling to take on new clients. Last year, the | :05:24. | :05:28. | |
company stopped providing care for one local council, Conway and handed | :05:29. | :05:34. | |
back the contract. Conway council says it's committed to supporting | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
vulnerable people in communities despite facing financial challenges. | :05:40. | :05:44. | |
But Conwy's not alone. Our research reveals across the UK, almost 100 | :05:45. | :05:48. | |
councils have had home care contracts handed back to them. The | :05:49. | :05:52. | |
UK Government declined to be interviewed but in a statement said | :05:53. | :05:55. | |
it will be bringing forward proposals later this year to ensure | :05:56. | :05:59. | |
a more financially sustainable social care system. | :06:00. | :06:03. | |
Good evening, Mr Williams... With more of us living longer and a | :06:04. | :06:07. | |
growing shortage of care workers, the pressure on people like Amanda | :06:08. | :06:09. | |
will continue to grow. Figures obtained by this programme | :06:10. | :06:16. | |
show 1.2 million single-parent families are owed child maintenance | :06:17. | :06:19. | |
in the UK. Many of those families have been | :06:20. | :06:22. | |
chasing the payments for years, and government figures suggest | :06:23. | :06:25. | |
the total child maintenance debt New mums feel scrutinised | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
and regulated by family, friends and strangers, | :06:29. | :06:34. | |
research from Cardiff A small study found | :06:35. | :06:36. | |
new mothers felt "judged" over what they were feeding their babies, | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
as well as what they were eating At least 17 people have been killed | :06:42. | :06:44. | |
in Ghana when a huge tree was swept over a waterfall and crashed down | :06:45. | :06:51. | |
onto a group of swimmers below. The tree had been uprooted | :06:52. | :06:54. | |
during a powerful storm. Most of those killed | :06:55. | :06:57. | |
were high school pupils. Tests carried out on the body | :06:58. | :07:00. | |
of the man shot dead at Orly airport near Paris on Saturday show he'd | :07:01. | :07:05. | |
been taking drugs Ziyed Ben Belgacem grabbed | :07:06. | :07:08. | |
an automatic rifle from a soldier before being killed | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
by her colleagues. The man's father told French | :07:14. | :07:17. | |
radio wasn't a terrorist The director of the FBI, | :07:18. | :07:20. | |
James Comey, will give evidence today about alleged Russian | :07:21. | :07:25. | |
interference in the US Appearing before the House | :07:26. | :07:28. | |
Intelligence Committee, he's also expected to face questions | :07:29. | :07:34. | |
about a second explosive issue. President Trump's claim | :07:35. | :07:37. | |
that his predecessor, Barack Obama, authorised a wire-tap | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
of Trump Tower during the campaign. Big changes in calculating personal | :07:41. | :07:42. | |
injury insurance payouts come into effect today, | :07:43. | :07:44. | |
which will mean higher compensation for some, | :07:45. | :07:46. | |
but more costs for the industry. It comes after pressure | :07:47. | :07:49. | |
from disability groups to lower the discount rate which determines | :07:50. | :07:51. | |
how much the NHS, or insurance companies, must pay up front | :07:52. | :07:56. | |
to successful claimants MPs from four committees - | :07:57. | :07:59. | |
across Transport, Health and the Environment - | :08:00. | :08:05. | |
are coming together to look They'll scrutinise whether | :08:06. | :08:07. | |
government plans aimed at tackling the problem go far enough, | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
as Andy Moore explains. A bus that looks clean enough until | :08:13. | :08:21. | |
you view its exhaust through a special infrared camera that detects | :08:22. | :08:24. | |
pollution. The same goes for this car. Poor air quality is | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
contributing to the early deaths of 40,000 people in the UK every year. | :08:29. | :08:35. | |
Much of the pollution comes from nitrogen dioxide and tiny particles. | :08:36. | :08:38. | |
Diesel vehicles once thought to be part of the solution are now seen as | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
the worst offenders. The problem is one that cuts across many branches | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
of Government. So the House of Commons believes it's best to pool | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
resources to analyse what's being done. A total of four sessions will | :08:52. | :08:54. | |
be held jointly by these committees: Their job will be to scrutinise the | :08:55. | :09:07. | |
Government's plans to tackle urban air pollution. Last November, the | :09:08. | :09:11. | |
High Court said the Government must come up with a draft plan to tackle | :09:12. | :09:17. | |
air pollution in our cities by the 24th April, a full plan must be in | :09:18. | :09:22. | |
place by the end of July. Last month, the European Union said 16 | :09:23. | :09:26. | |
parts of the UK were breaching air quality directives. It's given the | :09:27. | :09:29. | |
Government two months to come up with a scheme to solve the problem | :09:30. | :09:34. | |
or face a multi-million pound fine. The Government says it's committed | :09:35. | :09:39. | |
to improving the UK's air quality and recently announced a further | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
?290 million in funding to tackle the problem. Andy Moore, BBC News. | :09:44. | :09:51. | |
The Forces' Sweetheart, Dame Vera Lynn, is celebrating | :09:52. | :09:55. | |
To mark the occasion, a 350 foot image of her is being projected | :09:56. | :10:02. | |
A pair of wartime spitfires will also do a display over the cliffs. | :10:03. | :10:08. | |
Dame Vera said she feels 'incredibly humbled' by efforts | :10:09. | :10:10. | |
According to media reports, a park in Beijing is scanning visitor's | :10:11. | :10:31. | |
faces before dispensing toilet roll because they're said to be using too | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
much. They scan faces, dispense a fixed amount of loo paper so people | :10:36. | :10:38. | |
can't get double or whatever they prefer to have. The tourist | :10:39. | :10:43. | |
attraction is reportedly visited by people who take large amounts of loo | :10:44. | :10:48. | |
roll home. Why would having facial recognition stop you taking more loo | :10:49. | :10:54. | |
roll? Because you can't presumably get your face scanned twice. You | :10:55. | :10:57. | |
could try to fool it though. Not that they'll come after you and | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
demand the extra loo roll back. I think that might be the weirdest | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
story I've read out. Fair enough! Thank you. | :11:05. | :11:08. | |
Be very interested to know what unwanted advice | :11:09. | :11:10. | |
Let me know use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, | :11:11. | :11:15. | |
you will be charged at the standard network rate. | :11:16. | :11:18. | |
Tanya, after nine years of pursuing my ex, numerous letters from my MP | :11:19. | :11:27. | |
and complaints to the head of the whiled support agency, I've still | :11:28. | :11:33. | |
not received a single penny the ?65,000 in arrears my kids are owed | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
by my father who is an oil contractor. The system is a | :11:38. | :11:42. | |
disgrace. It helps fathers like my ex to avoid his legal and moral duty | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
to financially support his children. A quick tweet from Joe who says | :11:48. | :11:53. | |
she's now owed ?30,000 by her ex. Your experience is welcome. | :11:54. | :11:57. | |
Let's get some sport. Oly Foster is with us this morning. | :11:58. | :12:00. | |
Olly, all this week across BBC News, we'll be looking at the state | :12:01. | :12:03. | |
Today there are some worrying findings regarding doping | :12:04. | :12:06. | |
You think about the top end of doping and top athletes getting | :12:07. | :12:19. | |
suspended stripped of gold medals, the blanket ban on Russian athletes, | :12:20. | :12:25. | |
but BBC Sport's commissioned a poll of over 1,000 amateur sportsmen and | :12:26. | :12:28. | |
women at clubs and organise somedayings across the UK and the | :12:29. | :12:31. | |
results are startling. Let us show you some of the headline figures. | :12:32. | :12:51. | |
UK anti-doping which polices doping and tries to crack down on this, | :12:52. | :12:56. | |
they've got plenty to deal with as it is at the elite level of sport. | :12:57. | :13:02. | |
But responding to the findings, here is their Chief Executive. | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
Certainly the figures as regards the Ffrench lens of performance | :13:08. | :13:13. | |
enhancing substances at amateur level are increedibly alarming that. | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
Said, they do confirm what UK anti-doping has long suspected and | :13:19. | :13:22. | |
also seen through some of our intelligence-led testing. The | :13:23. | :13:27. | |
problem with amateur sport is that people don't think they're going to | :13:28. | :13:29. | |
be tested. Amateur sports people take drugs? | :13:30. | :13:46. | |
Yes. Let's return to the figures of 8% to a specifically admitted to | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
taking steroids. At that level, it's clear that it's | :13:52. | :14:07. | |
not all about winning. BBC Sport spoke to Dan Stevens who was | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
actually caught three years ago. He said he doped out of curiosity more | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
than getting any competitive advantage. | :14:16. | :14:23. | |
I think it's widespread in all ranks, in electriccy, the beauty | :14:24. | :14:29. | |
industry, slightly widespread in the sports industry. I also think it's a | :14:30. | :14:34. | |
way of modern day life. I don't think in the amateur ranks it's | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
about winning. My view is the anti-doping industry needs a roots | :14:39. | :14:41. | |
and branches rewrite across the whole board. I think there's | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
arguably different rules should apply to different people that | :14:47. | :14:50. | |
benefit in different ways. I think it's a mess at the moment. And what | :14:51. | :14:55. | |
other issues will you be looking at across the week, Olly? Plenty more | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
on amateur doping and reaction to the findings in that poll. Tomorrow | :15:01. | :15:05. | |
we'll look at the rise of e-sports, gaming and all that involves. That's | :15:06. | :15:08. | |
a fascinating subject. Wednesday we have a Special Report from Syria. | :15:09. | :15:12. | |
Football on the frontline. We'll also look at the balancing act of | :15:13. | :15:18. | |
athlete welfare and medal success. Remember, the trouble British | :15:19. | :15:22. | |
cycling was in recently, and also how sport can change lives for the | :15:23. | :15:25. | |
better. The week will be rounded off by a debate on Friday night with | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
some of the key decision-makers across sport. Should be a | :15:30. | :15:31. | |
fascinating week. Richard Hammond posted a message on | :15:32. | :15:42. | |
his website confirming he had a motorbike crash when film, but he's | :15:43. | :15:53. | |
fine. He said "That's for the inquiries. I banged my head, but | :15:54. | :15:55. | |
life goes on." When parents split up, | :15:56. | :15:59. | |
they're both still expected to contribute towards the upbringing | :16:00. | :16:01. | |
of their children. If they can't agree how | :16:02. | :16:03. | |
much should be paid, a government agency decides | :16:04. | :16:05. | |
on the cost of child maintenance. If one parent doesn't pay, | :16:06. | :16:08. | |
it's chased up by the Government. But this programme can reveal | :16:09. | :16:10. | |
that the amount of unpaid child maintenance parents are currently | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
chasing stands at ?3.8 billion. And it affects 1.2 million | :16:15. | :16:20. | |
people in the UK. The money is owed by non-resident | :16:21. | :16:25. | |
parents or absent parents, and has built up over | :16:26. | :16:27. | |
the last 23 years. Our reporter Nicola Rees has | :16:28. | :16:29. | |
been speaking to some So, are you able to see how | :16:30. | :16:31. | |
much money he's owed? Over ?3,000, but I've no confidence | :16:32. | :16:43. | |
that I'm going to get that money. When couples split up, | :16:44. | :16:57. | |
they're both still expected to contribute to the cost | :16:58. | :17:03. | |
of bringing up their children. But, according to the latest | :17:04. | :17:06. | |
figures, almost 1.2 million parents in the UK have failed to pay a total | :17:07. | :17:10. | |
of ?3.8 billion It's such a huge, startling number | :17:11. | :17:13. | |
that people can't quite believe it and do a double-take, | :17:14. | :17:23. | |
and it's money that's built This is the money that he owes, | :17:24. | :17:26. | |
but they don't seem to be able to get it off him, and there's | :17:27. | :17:37. | |
been no repercussions. You're on hold for 15, | :17:38. | :17:40. | |
20 minutes, you're being Payment of child maintenance | :17:41. | :17:42. | |
is a legal obligation, a bit like income tax | :17:43. | :17:46. | |
or national insurance. So how is it that so many | :17:47. | :17:50. | |
parents are managing His dad has been assessed | :17:51. | :17:52. | |
by the Child Support Agency He bought him a couple of books | :17:53. | :18:12. | |
and ?50 at the beginning in 2009, but we're now in 2017, | :18:13. | :18:22. | |
and the total amount What was it like for you, | :18:23. | :18:27. | |
particularly early on, At the beginning, when I first | :18:28. | :18:32. | |
moved up to Sheffield, it was really tough trying | :18:33. | :18:39. | |
to support him because I just didn't have the money | :18:40. | :18:41. | |
to look after him properly. And I had to just, you know, | :18:42. | :18:47. | |
instead of going to do fun things, I would just take him to the park, | :18:48. | :18:51. | |
get a picnic, we'd have the same picnic every | :18:52. | :18:54. | |
single day, take a book. I mean, you know, I did my best, | :18:55. | :18:56. | |
but I would've liked You have since moved on, | :18:57. | :18:59. | |
and you've remarried. Do you in any way feel | :19:00. | :19:03. | |
that that makes you less As his father, he has | :19:04. | :19:06. | |
a responsibility. You don't just have the child, | :19:07. | :19:12. | |
you raise them, you support them, You know, after nine years | :19:13. | :19:14. | |
of trying to get money out of him via the CSA, | :19:15. | :19:19. | |
and it's been completely In Nottingham, single mum | :19:20. | :19:21. | |
Karen Horton is also desperate to recoup several years' worth | :19:22. | :19:31. | |
of child maintenance debt Don't forget I'm working | :19:32. | :19:33. | |
a double, so you need to sort your own dinner | :19:34. | :19:40. | |
out, all right? Karen separated from | :19:41. | :19:42. | |
Liam's dad ten years ago. At first, she received regular | :19:43. | :19:44. | |
payments of ?5 a week directly from his benefits, | :19:45. | :19:47. | |
but when he stopped claiming benefits and started working, | :19:48. | :19:52. | |
the maintenance dried up. I was at university, | :19:53. | :19:54. | |
I was on less than benefits, I was on a maintenance grant, | :19:55. | :20:06. | |
and that ?5 a week would've made a difference right then, | :20:07. | :20:09. | |
as daft as it sounds. I used to buy a loaf of bread | :20:10. | :20:12. | |
and a packet of multi-crisps, and I'd just have crisp butties, | :20:13. | :20:17. | |
because that'd only cost me about ?4 to feed me Monday to Friday, | :20:18. | :20:21. | |
that was how bad it was. And to know that you could've had | :20:22. | :20:27. | |
that support, had the system worked, it hurts a little bit more, | :20:28. | :20:30. | |
because we needed that How much of a difference might | :20:31. | :20:33. | |
this arrears money make That'd help massively, because that | :20:34. | :20:40. | |
would put food on our table. Because by the time I've paid my | :20:41. | :20:46. | |
bills, I haven't got food money. This month, five days | :20:47. | :20:49. | |
after my salary went into my account, I had ?8.50, | :20:50. | :20:51. | |
and that was for the month. Karen raised Liam alone for five | :20:52. | :20:57. | |
years without child maintenance. But since 2014 she has | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
received regular payments The CSA did eventually | :21:03. | :21:04. | |
track Liam's dad down and calculate a payment for him, | :21:05. | :21:10. | |
though, didn't they? I had to be constantly on to them, | :21:11. | :21:15. | |
so I don't give them I had to ring them every week, | :21:16. | :21:18. | |
pretty much, at that time, because we were so desperate | :21:19. | :21:25. | |
for that money and I knew that he was working, | :21:26. | :21:28. | |
and then when they're telling you that they've lost your case | :21:29. | :21:30. | |
or there's been a problem, it's been overlooked, | :21:31. | :21:33. | |
there's been a mistake on your case, your case has been put in the wrong | :21:34. | :21:36. | |
place, or the wrong department... It's really frustrating then, | :21:37. | :21:39. | |
because you know you're struggling because of their incompetence, | :21:40. | :21:41. | |
really. The Child Support Agency was set up | :21:42. | :21:45. | |
in 1993 to make sure that, if a relationship broke down, | :21:46. | :21:50. | |
one parent couldn't just disappear and leave the other to pay the costs | :21:51. | :21:54. | |
of bringing up their children. But for years it's been | :21:55. | :21:58. | |
dogged with problems. Computer systems didn't work | :21:59. | :21:59. | |
properly, and parents who didn't pay So, over 23 years, a multi-billion | :22:00. | :22:03. | |
pound arrears debt's accumulated. It's money that should've been | :22:04. | :22:12. | |
available for children. I've sent letters after letters, | :22:13. | :22:16. | |
and I just felt like I was getting They asked for my bank details, | :22:17. | :22:19. | |
they said they'll get the money off of him, | :22:20. | :22:27. | |
they'll put it into my bank account, The Child Support Agency has | :22:28. | :22:30. | |
taken enforcement action on at least three occasions, | :22:31. | :22:33. | |
but the bailiffs haven't Do you have any hope that they'll | :22:34. | :22:35. | |
get this money back for you? As soon as he gets wind that it's | :22:36. | :22:41. | |
the CSA, he'll hang up. If they come round to the house, | :22:42. | :22:47. | |
he won't let them in the house. This enforcement letter that I've | :22:48. | :22:52. | |
got, a couple of years ago, they haven't done anything with it, | :22:53. | :22:56. | |
there's been no repercussions whatsoever, so to me it's | :22:57. | :22:59. | |
like a paper exercise. Laura's former partner | :23:00. | :23:06. | |
is this man, Gary Lawford. He works as a children's | :23:07. | :23:10. | |
entertainer in Brighton. We contacted him to ask why | :23:11. | :23:16. | |
he hasn't paid child maintenance for Louis, | :23:17. | :23:19. | |
but he declined to comment. The Child Support Agency has a whole | :23:20. | :23:25. | |
range of powers to potentially They can take money directly | :23:26. | :23:27. | |
from benefits or bank accounts, they can even use bailiffs | :23:28. | :23:33. | |
to seize property. These are powers that they very | :23:34. | :23:38. | |
seldom use, and yet for some people, particularly those | :23:39. | :23:41. | |
who are self-employed, those are the things | :23:42. | :23:43. | |
that would really work, Janet Allberson is from the single | :23:44. | :23:44. | |
parents' charity Gingerbread. She wants the Government to do more | :23:45. | :23:53. | |
to tackle the maintenance debt. We say there should be some | :23:54. | :23:58. | |
compensation to children They shouldn't just be able to walk | :23:59. | :24:00. | |
away and say its history when it's due to their errors and their poor | :24:01. | :24:08. | |
practice that money That's wrong, and the Government | :24:09. | :24:10. | |
should pay for that. The Government say that part of this | :24:11. | :24:18. | |
issue is they're focusing on children who can benefit now, | :24:19. | :24:21. | |
which is why the arrears It sounds very simple, doesn't it, | :24:22. | :24:24. | |
focus on money for children now? But if you're just always cresting | :24:25. | :24:35. | |
the wave and saying, "Money now," every week, | :24:36. | :24:38. | |
every month, there's a proportion of parents who only pay, | :24:39. | :24:41. | |
they pay nothing or they pay half, and when they don't pay that | :24:42. | :24:46. | |
money starts to build up. Even if it's paid months, | :24:47. | :24:53. | |
years late, it can still make a huge difference in terms of paying off | :24:54. | :24:57. | |
bills, replenishing your savings, helping perhaps a teenage child | :24:58. | :24:59. | |
redecorate their bedroom. In 2012, the Government | :25:00. | :25:05. | |
bought in a new system The Child Maintenance Service, | :25:06. | :25:09. | |
or CMS, brought with it new IT systems and the ability to access HM | :25:10. | :25:15. | |
Revenue Customs data to make The new scheme introduced charges | :25:16. | :25:19. | |
that parents had to pay before they could sign up, | :25:20. | :25:27. | |
and the aim was actually to put people off using the Government's | :25:28. | :25:30. | |
scheme and instead to encourage them to go away, sit down | :25:31. | :25:34. | |
and come up with their own But in many cases that's | :25:35. | :25:36. | |
simply not happening. What they say is they want | :25:37. | :25:46. | |
parents to collaborate and agree maintenance, | :25:47. | :25:48. | |
and do it in a friendly way, and so charging people ?20 to use | :25:49. | :25:51. | |
the new service is intended to make them go away and agree their own | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
arrangements instead. The worry is, of course, | :25:56. | :26:00. | |
that it's putting off particularly low-income parents, | :26:01. | :26:03. | |
who can't afford it. To pay ?20 to try and chase up, | :26:04. | :26:09. | |
get money out of him for Louis when there's ?9,000 owing | :26:10. | :26:12. | |
from the last ten years... Why would I pay more to get money | :26:13. | :26:19. | |
that I haven't even got...? It doesn't make sense to me at all, | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
so until I've got that money back, I'm not going to be paying money | :26:23. | :26:26. | |
to get money that's Laura's frustrations are shared | :26:27. | :26:29. | |
by many single parents. In fact, only 16% have reapplied | :26:30. | :26:33. | |
to have their maintenance But among those who | :26:34. | :26:36. | |
have, there is hope. Karen is now receiving regular | :26:37. | :26:45. | |
payments from her ex. He is now making regular payments | :26:46. | :26:50. | |
and a small contribution Does that give you confidence, | :26:51. | :26:52. | |
are you cautiously optimistic? Yeah, it's an anxiety, really, | :26:53. | :26:58. | |
because you don't know if that money's going to come at the end | :26:59. | :27:01. | |
of the month. So you can never rely on it, | :27:02. | :27:04. | |
even if you do start getting it, you don't know how much you're | :27:05. | :27:07. | |
going to get every month because And then it's still the really bad | :27:08. | :27:10. | |
correspondence, so every month I get a letter saying that he hasn't paid, | :27:11. | :27:18. | |
but then I get a text message a couple of weeks later saying that | :27:19. | :27:21. | |
there's a payment been made. The new and improved CMS | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
was supposed to solve the arrears problem, | :27:27. | :27:28. | |
but the debt continues to rise. So far, for the parents who have | :27:29. | :27:33. | |
signed up, the service is only collecting around half | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
of the money that's due. In fact, the new system has already | :27:38. | :27:41. | |
clocked up ?93 million Just going to find out | :27:42. | :27:44. | |
where your case is located. For Laura, | :27:45. | :27:50. | |
the fight is far from over. I'll just pop you on hold | :27:51. | :27:55. | |
a moment, I'll not keep But dealing with the system | :27:56. | :27:57. | |
doesn't get any easier. How many years should | :27:58. | :28:01. | |
you chase them? Can you tell me what's happening | :28:02. | :28:08. | |
with this money, and when I'm, if there's any chance | :28:09. | :28:27. | |
of me getting it? OK, yeah, that's | :28:28. | :28:29. | |
the figure I've got. Right, what I need to do is I need | :28:30. | :28:38. | |
to contact enforcement for you. After 22 minutes on the phone | :28:39. | :28:47. | |
to three different departments, Laura is told someone | :28:48. | :28:50. | |
will call her back. They've confirmed that he owes a sum | :28:51. | :28:53. | |
of ?9,109, but they can't confirm anything else, | :28:54. | :28:56. | |
you know, when it's They're just trying to find | :28:57. | :28:58. | |
the right department of where it is, so now I have to phone them back | :28:59. | :29:09. | |
to phone up a different number, but it's like this all the time, | :29:10. | :29:15. | |
it's just a complete headache. I'm not getting anywhere with it, | :29:16. | :29:18. | |
I've just wasted all this time on the phone and now I feel really | :29:19. | :29:21. | |
stressed, you can probably tell by my voice, I'm just getting | :29:22. | :29:25. | |
really wound up and... We very much want the CMS | :29:26. | :29:28. | |
to succeed, we want it to work. We don't agree with the fact that | :29:29. | :29:36. | |
you've got to be charged to use it, we think that's | :29:37. | :29:39. | |
a very blunt instrument. But we do want the service | :29:40. | :29:43. | |
to deliver for children. At the moment, there's | :29:44. | :29:47. | |
still questions to be asked about how much effort it's put | :29:48. | :29:50. | |
in to chasing those who choose not to pay, and we don't think, as yet, | :29:51. | :29:54. | |
it's got that right, and there's more that needs | :29:55. | :29:58. | |
to be done. The Government says it's | :29:59. | :30:02. | |
getting tough tackling parents who evade payment, | :30:03. | :30:04. | |
but with billions of pounds' worth of child maintenance outstanding, | :30:05. | :30:08. | |
many single-parent families I don't understand how a father can | :30:09. | :30:11. | |
get away with not paying. How can he sleep at night, | :30:12. | :30:19. | |
when that's his child I don't know how he | :30:20. | :30:24. | |
sleeps, I really don't. It'd have been nice for Liam to know | :30:25. | :30:29. | |
that his dad was contributing. It'd have been nice for Liam to have | :30:30. | :30:32. | |
that respect in his dad that he's If your ex-partner isn't | :30:33. | :30:35. | |
paying child maintenance then do get in touch, I am really | :30:36. | :30:46. | |
keen to hear how you cope without it and what measures you've | :30:47. | :30:49. | |
undertaken to get it. Now - as you'd expect | :30:50. | :30:51. | |
we asked the dept of work and pensions to speak to us - | :30:52. | :30:54. | |
and they said no. Telling us they "actively pursue | :30:55. | :30:57. | |
non-resident parents to recover unpaid maintenance" and are | :30:58. | :31:00. | |
"committed to ensuring that everyone gets paid the child maintenance | :31:01. | :31:02. | |
they're entitled to." We asked them about the ?93 million | :31:03. | :31:05. | |
of new debt that's already accumulated under the Child | :31:06. | :31:08. | |
Maintenance Service. They said "in nearly 90% of these | :31:09. | :31:13. | |
arrears cases parents are paying In reference to the people we heard | :31:14. | :31:17. | |
from in the film, the DWP apologised to Karen for the handling | :31:18. | :31:24. | |
of her case under the They say they've now "taken action | :31:25. | :31:27. | |
to enforce payments" and taken "additional steps to ensure | :31:28. | :31:32. | |
the arrears owed And finally we asked them to look | :31:33. | :31:34. | |
at Laura's case too. They said that's now | :31:35. | :31:39. | |
been "transferred to the Child Maintenance Service along | :31:40. | :31:42. | |
with the arrears owed" and that they're using the enforcement | :31:43. | :31:45. | |
methods available to them A texter says, my ex owes me ?1200, | :31:46. | :32:01. | |
a relatively small amount to some, but the CSA kept changing my case | :32:02. | :32:05. | |
because he kept moving addresses. I'll never see that money. My | :32:06. | :32:09. | |
daughter is no longer entitled to child benefit and they told me now | :32:10. | :32:13. | |
they won't follow it up. The system is a job, if it was the Government | :32:14. | :32:16. | |
that owed the money they would find a way to recover it but not for | :32:17. | :32:22. | |
single parents. Claire says my ex hasn't paid maintenance since we | :32:23. | :32:29. | |
split up over eight years ago and he owes ?17,500. He switches work or | :32:30. | :32:34. | |
works self-employed to avoid the CSA and CMS, it's a disgrace, they | :32:35. | :32:38. | |
should be able to jail him. Rachel says, can we also bring to light | :32:39. | :32:42. | |
that some mores abuse the child maintenance service, stopping the | :32:43. | :32:45. | |
father from seeing their children just to get more money. Lisa says, I | :32:46. | :32:55. | |
still have a debt of ?41,000 that's been cleared, ?100 per month for | :32:56. | :33:00. | |
boys now aged 22 and 24, they'll be nearly 40 by the time it's cleared. | :33:01. | :33:04. | |
If you've got a story to share about child maintenance payments, | :33:05. | :33:06. | |
do get in touch with the programme - we'll be speaking to one mother | :33:07. | :33:13. | |
after 10am who has spent six years chasing arrears of almost ?3,000. | :33:14. | :33:18. | |
Still to come, nearly one in four home care companies are at risk | :33:19. | :33:22. | |
of going bankrupt because they can't recruit enough staff | :33:23. | :33:25. | |
We'll hear from one home care worker who has decided | :33:26. | :33:30. | |
Were you ever given disapproving looks or told off | :33:31. | :33:37. | |
for what you were doing or not doing as a new mum? | :33:38. | :33:40. | |
We'll hear about research which says lots of new mums feel their every | :33:41. | :33:43. | |
move including what they eat, drink and give to their child | :33:44. | :33:46. | |
is being monitored by friends, family and even total strangers. | :33:47. | :33:49. | |
Joanna is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of the news. | :33:50. | :33:52. | |
Police have arrested a man on suspicion of murdering | :33:53. | :33:55. | |
a one-year-old boy at a flat in North London. | :33:56. | :33:57. | |
The man will also be questioned on suspicion | :33:58. | :34:00. | |
of attempting to murder a girl, thought to be the boy's twin sister. | :34:01. | :34:03. | |
The boy died in the early hours of Sunday and the girl remains | :34:04. | :34:06. | |
Care companies have cancelled contracts with 95 UK councils, | :34:07. | :34:11. | |
saying they cannot deliver services for the amount they are being paid. | :34:12. | :34:15. | |
A BBC Panorama investigation found some firms said | :34:16. | :34:19. | |
they could not recruit or retain the staff they needed. | :34:20. | :34:22. | |
The Local Government Association said the situation was the result | :34:23. | :34:26. | |
of "historic under-funding" and an ageing population. | :34:27. | :34:29. | |
Figures obtained by this programme show 1.2 million single-parent | :34:30. | :34:33. | |
families are owed child maintenance in the UK. | :34:34. | :34:36. | |
Many of those families have been chasing the payments for years, | :34:37. | :34:39. | |
and government figures suggest the total child maintenance debt | :34:40. | :34:43. | |
At least 17 people have been killed in Ghana when a huge tree was swept | :34:44. | :34:49. | |
over a waterfall and crashed down onto a group of swimmers below. | :34:50. | :34:52. | |
The tree had been uprooted during a powerful storm. | :34:53. | :34:55. | |
Most of those killed were high school pupils. | :34:56. | :35:06. | |
The Force's Sweetheart, Dame Vera Lynn, is celebrating | :35:07. | :35:09. | |
To mark the occasion, a 350-foot image | :35:10. | :35:14. | |
of her is being projected on to the White Cliffs of Dover. | :35:15. | :35:17. | |
A pair of wartime spitfires will also do a display over the cliffs. | :35:18. | :35:20. | |
Dame Vera said she feels "incredibly humbled" by efforts | :35:21. | :35:23. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10am. | :35:24. | :35:33. | |
This is from somebody who doesn't wish to use their name to do with | :35:34. | :35:40. | |
child maintenance - I am far from an absent parent, I have equal care of | :35:41. | :35:45. | |
my daughter and yet the CSA have taken ?500 off us a month. CSA base | :35:46. | :35:50. | |
everything upon who gets child benefit so she has greater financial | :35:51. | :35:59. | |
income that is far greater than mine. The CSA target the parents | :36:00. | :36:06. | |
that are easy targets. I have not had support from anyone. Please keep | :36:07. | :36:10. | |
this anonymous, the agency is the issue, they do everything wrong, | :36:11. | :36:14. | |
they're absolutely useless. Here is the sport. | :36:15. | :36:19. | |
At the start of our State of Sport week, the head of anti-doping is | :36:20. | :36:27. | |
alarmed at the results of a poll looking at doping in amateur sport. | :36:28. | :36:33. | |
35% said they know somebody who has used performance enhancing drugs. In | :36:34. | :36:38. | |
the Premier League, Manchester City and Liverpool remain third and | :36:39. | :36:42. | |
fourth after cancelling each other out at the Etihad. Aguero scored | :36:43. | :36:46. | |
City's equaliser in the draw. Tottenham are clear in second place | :36:47. | :36:50. | |
after they beat Southampton 2-1 at White Hart Lane. Christian Eriksen | :36:51. | :36:56. | |
and deli Ali scored their goals. They are ten points behind Chelsea. | :36:57. | :37:01. | |
Roger Federer's won a title following an 18th major win. A few | :37:02. | :37:08. | |
months ago, the 35-year-old won the Indian Wells tournament. He beat | :37:09. | :37:12. | |
fellow Swiss Stan Wawrinka. Home care companies have warned that | :37:13. | :37:16. | |
they're in crisis because they can't recruit enough staff | :37:17. | :37:18. | |
to meet growing demand. Across the UK 800,000 home care | :37:19. | :37:21. | |
workers help elderly and disabled people live independent | :37:22. | :37:24. | |
lives at home. The majority are employed | :37:25. | :37:27. | |
by private companies Research by the BBC's Panorama | :37:28. | :37:30. | |
programme reveals that nearly 100 councils have had home care | :37:31. | :37:35. | |
contracts handed back to them. In their investigation they found | :37:36. | :37:38. | |
nearly one in four home care companies are at risk of shutting | :37:39. | :37:40. | |
down and that 69 have closed Amanda Hopewell is a home care | :37:41. | :37:43. | |
worker and she described what a working day | :37:44. | :37:47. | |
looks like for her. When you're with them every day | :37:48. | :37:51. | |
of the week it's easy to get to know them and | :37:52. | :38:04. | |
their routine, really. In the mornings, you go in and, | :38:05. | :38:14. | |
like, help them get out of bed, make them breakfast, | :38:15. | :38:18. | |
and help them get dressed and stuff. I could see up to about ten | :38:19. | :38:21. | |
or 11 people a day. If I do a long day's work | :38:22. | :38:26. | |
I would put ?20 a day in this camp If I do a long day's work | :38:27. | :38:34. | |
I would put ?20 a day in this car Most probably a quarter | :38:35. | :38:38. | |
of my wages goes on to fuel. Even though they pay | :38:39. | :38:44. | |
more, and you get a contract off them, but I don't think | :38:45. | :38:46. | |
I'd be sitting behind the till, I feel good about myself when I've | :38:47. | :38:50. | |
given them that care as well, I know And that they tipped up in bed | :38:51. | :38:57. | |
and the door's locked then... Let's talk now to Colin Angel | :38:58. | :39:02. | |
from the UK's Home Care Association and Zoe Anderson who is | :39:03. | :39:15. | |
a home care worker. Welcome both of you. We saw Amanda's | :39:16. | :39:24. | |
story. Tell us about your own daily routine as a home care worker? Well, | :39:25. | :39:29. | |
it's fairly typical what she was talking about, we get up very early, | :39:30. | :39:32. | |
don't usually get paid for travel time so we have to work very long | :39:33. | :39:36. | |
hours in the day to make up a seven-hour day that would be normal. | :39:37. | :39:40. | |
So you would have to do like 14 visits at least in a day to make it | :39:41. | :39:44. | |
like a normal day's work which would take you from maybe six in the | :39:45. | :39:47. | |
morning until eight in the evening to get the calls in with only a | :39:48. | :39:50. | |
couple of hours break for the hole day. You get half an hour with each | :39:51. | :39:54. | |
client, is that right? For most, yes. For a straightforward personal | :39:55. | :40:00. | |
care visit helping wash and dress, make breakfast, help can medication, | :40:01. | :40:03. | |
you would get half an hour which means you don't have any time for | :40:04. | :40:07. | |
any extras, it's straight in and straight out, no time to spend with | :40:08. | :40:11. | |
people or do the odd little bits and pieces that people need to stay | :40:12. | :40:14. | |
comfortable. It's very difficult. Can you do all that you are supposed | :40:15. | :40:17. | |
to do in that 30 minutes? No, no, no. Well, most of the time, but if | :40:18. | :40:22. | |
you go over slightly, 35, 40 minutes, you don't usually get any | :40:23. | :40:27. | |
extra for that so it eats into your day and the more you do, the less | :40:28. | :40:31. | |
you get paid basely so the more you care the less you get paid. Colin | :40:32. | :40:39. | |
your organisation says they should get ?16.70 an hour to provide decent | :40:40. | :40:44. | |
care and pay staff a legal wage. What is the reality? Home care | :40:45. | :40:51. | |
providers are receiving significantly less than our minimum | :40:52. | :40:55. | |
price for home care. How much less? So on average about ?2 an hour less. | :40:56. | :41:00. | |
That means care providers are having to ration the number of staff they | :41:01. | :41:07. | |
have in the office, reducing the number of supervisors available. We | :41:08. | :41:11. | |
are seeing the creation of a system that Zoe's described of not having | :41:12. | :41:17. | |
enough time to meet people's needs, they're very rushed and it's an | :41:18. | :41:21. | |
undignified service for many which it shouldn't be. This relates to how | :41:22. | :41:26. | |
councils are underfunding care, their budgets themselves are under | :41:27. | :41:29. | |
stress. You know the Government's injected this ?2 billion extra or is | :41:30. | :41:33. | |
going to, I'm not sure how it's going to pay for that yet but it's | :41:34. | :41:37. | |
going to inject ?2 billion into social care in the next couple of | :41:38. | :41:41. | |
years, how is that going to help? It's going to help, it's over two | :41:42. | :41:46. | |
years. It will stop further deterioration, it will keep the | :41:47. | :41:49. | |
system stable while the Government comes up with a long-term solution | :41:50. | :41:52. | |
for funding older people's care. That's urgently needed and it's | :41:53. | :41:58. | |
going to be the state picking up the cost of people's care, or will that | :41:59. | :42:02. | |
need people paying through national insurance or taking on insurance or | :42:03. | :42:08. | |
using the value in their own homes? What What is your motivation for | :42:09. | :42:12. | |
doing this job, Zoe? It's not the money. I especially like the elderly | :42:13. | :42:17. | |
and caring for them. When the job is good, it's the best job in the | :42:18. | :42:21. | |
world, the rewards are immense, you really can make a difference to | :42:22. | :42:24. | |
people's lives when you are able to do your job properly. Unfortunately | :42:25. | :42:27. | |
at the moment, the business is being held together by a hard core of | :42:28. | :42:31. | |
people doing it for love and care and specifically for our clients. We | :42:32. | :42:34. | |
are not doing it for anybody else and we are not getting supported in | :42:35. | :42:39. | |
that. We are slowly leaving. The staff, we can't retain good staff, | :42:40. | :42:44. | |
unless you are really dedicated to the job nobody does it for more than | :42:45. | :42:49. | |
a few weeks. Are you leaving? I'm going to work in a care home, yes, | :42:50. | :42:54. | |
in a couple of weeks, it's better hours, I'm getting paid for all the | :42:55. | :42:58. | |
time that I'm working, it's a less care-based role as well so I'm | :42:59. | :43:02. | |
hoping to be a lot less tired than I am at the moment. Thank you very | :43:03. | :43:03. | |
much. You can see more on this story | :43:04. | :43:10. | |
in Panorama on BBC One Vera Lynn, the World War II | :43:11. | :43:13. | |
singer, turns 100 today. Events across the UK | :43:14. | :43:25. | |
will celebrate her life. Is it okay for a complete stranger | :43:26. | :43:33. | |
to tell you, as a new mum, A small study today suggests that | :43:34. | :43:37. | |
new mums feel judged and scrutinised when it comes to parenting - | :43:38. | :43:42. | |
judged by strangers and family members, and it puts them | :43:43. | :43:47. | |
under undue pressure. We can speak now to Anna Whitehouse | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
who is 6 months pregnant and has Ven Wong is here with her | :43:52. | :43:56. | |
one-year old Kyler. And Skye Blake with | :43:57. | :44:02. | |
seven-month-old Reggie is here. Rosamund Dean is Mum to Ezra | :44:03. | :44:07. | |
and three-week-old Eden. Hello, everybody! Sorry about the | :44:08. | :44:22. | |
rush. Thanks for getting here. Congratulations, this must be Eden. | :44:23. | :44:26. | |
Yes. There she is. So, Rosamund, is it | :44:27. | :44:33. | |
true that recently you felt you had to lie about breast-feeding to a | :44:34. | :44:37. | |
total stranger? Yes! That did happen actually at the swimming pool at the | :44:38. | :44:42. | |
weekend. Eden and I were in the viewing gallery watching my husband | :44:43. | :44:47. | |
and toddler Sam splashing around in the pool and a woman came over and | :44:48. | :44:52. | |
said what a lovely baby. Breast-fed? And this time around, my second | :44:53. | :44:56. | |
child, I stopped breast-feeding earlier so she's formula fed now. | :44:57. | :45:02. | |
Ridiculously, I said yes. I felt I didn't want to be judged by this | :45:03. | :45:06. | |
stranger. Wow. Do you mind me asking how old the stranger was out of | :45:07. | :45:11. | |
interest? She was in her 20s I would say or early 30s max. She didn't | :45:12. | :45:16. | |
seem... So did you do that, you said because you didn't want to be judged | :45:17. | :45:20. | |
but also was it easier because you didn't necessarily want to get into | :45:21. | :45:25. | |
the conversation about the decision you had taken? | :45:26. | :45:29. | |
I felt if I said no it would have been a whole conversation. Of course | :45:30. | :45:37. | |
and you would have had to justify your decisions. She knows nothing | :45:38. | :45:41. | |
about you or Eden. Who else can relate to that? So he's breast fed, | :45:42. | :45:47. | |
but I get asked when I'm putting him on formula. Really? Because it works | :45:48. | :45:51. | |
for us, I don't have a plan any time soon. Why do you think you get asked | :45:52. | :46:00. | |
that? Is it because you're young or look young or what? I think it's me | :46:01. | :46:06. | |
being young definitely comes into it. But I think people think that | :46:07. | :46:12. | |
breast, you breastfeed for a certain amount of time and then you just | :46:13. | :46:16. | |
switch to formula, but if it works for me, I don't see why I need to, I | :46:17. | :46:20. | |
mean he's perfectly happy and healthy and putting on weight. And | :46:21. | :46:23. | |
what do you think of complete strangers asking you about how you | :46:24. | :46:28. | |
feed your child? I get complete strangers asking me as well. People | :46:29. | :46:34. | |
on the bus. Just people I see at other play groups. I mean everyone | :46:35. | :46:43. | |
is different. Extraordinary. Anna, why does everyone have an opinion? I | :46:44. | :46:47. | |
don't know because there is so much more information out there. When my | :46:48. | :46:51. | |
mum went through it all, there wasn't the internet and this | :46:52. | :46:55. | |
abundance of how to parent, you just got on with it. I was in a pub | :46:56. | :46:59. | |
garden with May when she was really young in the sun, just drinking. Had | :47:00. | :47:05. | |
half apple juice and half soda, but in a pint glass and the judgement | :47:06. | :47:12. | |
around me, it was actually from a younger generation like, "Should she | :47:13. | :47:17. | |
either be here? Should she be drinking it that" I was like I love | :47:18. | :47:23. | |
my kid. I'm just drinking apple juice. There is also a kids play | :47:24. | :47:27. | |
area at this pub. The pub understands you have children and | :47:28. | :47:32. | |
that it's not suddenly a place of shame. I feel more judged at the | :47:33. | :47:39. | |
moment on what I'm eating because I'm six months pregnant from | :47:40. | :47:42. | |
everybody from somebody in a restaurant. Are you sure you want | :47:43. | :47:47. | |
medium steak? Is that the waiter or the waitress? Without meaning it. | :47:48. | :47:52. | |
They might be checking because they don't want to be held liable if | :47:53. | :47:57. | |
something goes wrong? People feel they care about it, but also there | :47:58. | :48:03. | |
is an implication that we're not. Do you have something to say about this | :48:04. | :48:08. | |
What do you want to say? My mummy eats all of my food! Does she? | :48:09. | :48:17. | |
Alyour fish fingers? We all do it! Hello. What about your experience? I | :48:18. | :48:23. | |
mean I really agree with the sentiment that social media as kind | :48:24. | :48:28. | |
of made. It amplifies everything. Why does it? For me, I mean, I | :48:29. | :48:35. | |
guess, it's information is more out there and more like easily | :48:36. | :48:39. | |
accessible and for me it was more about the stories that I read, you | :48:40. | :48:45. | |
know, on Facebook or online of incidents where people had, you | :48:46. | :48:49. | |
know, issues breast-feeding in public. For me, I did breastfeed for | :48:50. | :48:55. | |
six months and for me the biggest issue was worrying that people are | :48:56. | :48:59. | |
looking at me and judging me for the way I'm breast-feeding or people | :49:00. | :49:02. | |
walking out, people being judgemental about it because I had | :49:03. | :49:06. | |
read so many stories. Did you actually experience it or were you | :49:07. | :49:10. | |
worried about experiencing it? The thing is, I was so worried about it | :49:11. | :49:14. | |
to the point where I didn't want to do it in public. Right. For me, I | :49:15. | :49:19. | |
actually just hardly even left the house for six months because I was | :49:20. | :49:24. | |
so worried of what other people would think that I just fed him at | :49:25. | :49:29. | |
home. You see those comments on Facebook. Comments all the time. I | :49:30. | :49:35. | |
think you just think that's a representation of maybe what | :49:36. | :49:39. | |
outsiders are thinking. It might be, but it doesn't help your mindset. My | :49:40. | :49:44. | |
mum didn't have that. She didn't have that kernel planted in her mind | :49:45. | :49:48. | |
that somebody might think it's terrible I'm feeding my newborn | :49:49. | :49:53. | |
formula aged three weeks. I think it's really funny because parents | :49:54. | :49:56. | |
and that generation will say to you, you guys have it so easy, we didn't | :49:57. | :50:01. | |
have any of the stuff you've got now. I think it is more complicated | :50:02. | :50:06. | |
now with social media ampifying everything and they didn't have | :50:07. | :50:11. | |
that. It's crazy whether you're breast-feeding or bottle-feeding | :50:12. | :50:15. | |
your baby you can feel worried about doing it in public because of the | :50:16. | :50:19. | |
way you will be judged. What about being judged or scrutinised or put | :50:20. | :50:24. | |
under pressure by your own parents or siblings, relatives and close | :50:25. | :50:28. | |
friends? Does that happen? I don't know about you guys, but I didn't | :50:29. | :50:32. | |
experience that. My family were very, very supportive and very | :50:33. | :50:36. | |
reassuring. My mother and mother-in-law said, you know, I | :50:37. | :50:39. | |
didn't breastfeed for very long and my friend said, you know in a couple | :50:40. | :50:44. | |
of years when you've got a toddler running around you're going to think | :50:45. | :50:47. | |
I can't believe I spent any time worrying about giving me baby a | :50:48. | :50:50. | |
bottle. So my family are very supportive. I found it more | :50:51. | :50:56. | |
midwives. It's awful really, healthcare professionals weren't | :50:57. | :51:00. | |
reassuring in that way. They were very, very, you know, they were very | :51:01. | :51:04. | |
convinced about breast-feeding and that being the best thing. And that | :51:05. | :51:07. | |
put pressure on you? Yes, absolutely. When my son who is now | :51:08. | :51:11. | |
two-and-a-half, when he was three weeks old, I was really struggling | :51:12. | :51:16. | |
with breast-feeding and I cracked nipples and had by expressing milk | :51:17. | :51:19. | |
into a bottle and I thought it is fine because it's still breast milk | :51:20. | :51:24. | |
and the midwife said you shouldn't do that because your son wouldn't | :51:25. | :51:29. | |
get antibodies he needs unless it comes from the breast. I researched | :51:30. | :51:33. | |
that and there is no evidence for that, what a thing to say to an | :51:34. | :51:40. | |
emotional, vulnerable new mum who is desperate to do the best thing for | :51:41. | :51:46. | |
her baby. Who saw a mum fill up a baby's bottle with Dr Pepper | :51:47. | :51:52. | |
recently? I was on a bus in Lleyton. It drew quite a interesting feeling | :51:53. | :51:57. | |
of myself as a mother because I thought how easy is to for me to | :51:58. | :52:04. | |
just judge that straightaway? But I have had days where I've fed her | :52:05. | :52:08. | |
mainly chocolate because I've had a very difficult day and she won't eat | :52:09. | :52:12. | |
anything else. I've had days where I have been throwing up so much | :52:13. | :52:15. | |
because of HGV, morning sickness and the only thing I can eat for my bump | :52:16. | :52:25. | |
is, you know, three Mars bars. You don't know that circumstance and | :52:26. | :52:29. | |
while that's not great and obviously not to advocate, I just felt | :52:30. | :52:34. | |
actually, I can't judge that. Yes. It's not, for me, to judge. I don't | :52:35. | :52:38. | |
know the circumstances that have led to that and I'm going to make that | :52:39. | :52:42. | |
mother feel worse and ultimately, you need to be in an OK frame of | :52:43. | :52:46. | |
mind as a mother, whatever is going on around you, that's more | :52:47. | :52:49. | |
important, I think. Thank you so much for coming in with | :52:50. | :52:54. | |
your delicious children. Thank you, I really appreciate it and good | :52:55. | :52:55. | |
luck. All the very best, thank you. Vera Lynn, the World War II | :52:56. | :53:10. | |
singer, turns 100 today. Events across the UK | :53:11. | :53:19. | |
will celebrate her life. A seven-year-old tells us | :53:20. | :53:21. | |
how her junior first aid training saved her toddler brother's life | :53:22. | :53:23. | |
when he suffered a seizure. Roxy took the dummy out of Harvey's | :53:24. | :53:28. | |
mouth and put him in the recovery position. She just won a national | :53:29. | :53:37. | |
award. We can speak to them both now. Roxy, tell us what you did. I | :53:38. | :53:50. | |
put him in the recovery position. He just do that with one hand and then | :53:51. | :53:54. | |
you do that with the other hand and then you bend your leg like that and | :53:55. | :53:57. | |
then like, you put the straight leg on to the bent leg and you twist | :53:58. | :54:04. | |
them on their side. If they're a baby, you take their dummy out. How | :54:05. | :54:10. | |
did you know how to do all that? St John's. You had training with St | :54:11. | :54:15. | |
John's, had you? Yes. Wow. And what was happening to Harley that led you | :54:16. | :54:22. | |
to do all of that? He was having a fit. He was like blue and then like | :54:23. | :54:32. | |
and then he couldn't breathe and then like we had to talk to him. So | :54:33. | :54:44. | |
it didn't block his airway and he was being sick and we had to do | :54:45. | :54:48. | |
something. Wow, you saved his life, Roxy. Yeah. That's incredible. Kate, | :54:49. | :54:57. | |
I mean, does Harley often have the seizures? Is it something that your | :54:58. | :55:01. | |
family would know how to deal with or was this unusual? Well, this was | :55:02. | :55:06. | |
actually Harley's third seizure that he'd suffered. He'd suffered two | :55:07. | :55:11. | |
previously and then this was the firsted one. Third one. You start to | :55:12. | :55:20. | |
deal with them, but obviously we weren't with him when he had his | :55:21. | :55:26. | |
third seizure, he was staying with his grandparents. But they're so | :55:27. | :55:31. | |
traumatic to watch for him. You just feel so helpless. Had you | :55:32. | :55:36. | |
deliberately got some training for Roxy? Or was it a coincidence with | :55:37. | :55:41. | |
the work she has been doing with St John's? No, she'd actually been | :55:42. | :55:48. | |
learning to do recovery positions with St John's probably well months | :55:49. | :55:53. | |
before so actually she had been using me and her dad as guinea pigs | :55:54. | :55:58. | |
to put us in recovery position after she'd learnt the sort of skill there | :55:59. | :56:03. | |
with them, but they're always sort of upgrading with their first aid | :56:04. | :56:06. | |
and stuff. She is is always learning new things with the St John's. Of | :56:07. | :56:10. | |
course, just because you learn it, it doesn't mean actually remember | :56:11. | :56:15. | |
what to do when you might need to bring forward the training that | :56:16. | :56:19. | |
you've had? Absolutely because, I mean, when Harley sort of sufferths | :56:20. | :56:25. | |
suffers his convulsions, it is panic stations really, but luckily Roxy is | :56:26. | :56:31. | |
very much like her dad. She is a very cool, calm and collected little | :56:32. | :56:37. | |
girl and so is her dadment they deal with the situation and obviously she | :56:38. | :56:41. | |
has got a cool mannerism about her. She had learnt, that's how she | :56:42. | :56:44. | |
learnt to deal with Harley on this particular occasion. What do you | :56:45. | :56:50. | |
think of her actions? Oh, amazing. Me and her dad can't begin to tell | :56:51. | :56:57. | |
you how proud we are of her, and not just us but her grandparents and | :56:58. | :57:02. | |
their nanny and grandad, and many family members and friends, you | :57:03. | :57:05. | |
know, they're overwhelmed by what she has done and her teachers in | :57:06. | :57:09. | |
primary school. She has up in Assembly and she look a letter in | :57:10. | :57:13. | |
when she had the nomination. She took that in and went up in front of | :57:14. | :57:17. | |
the Assembly and the children. She took her award to show them all. So | :57:18. | :57:21. | |
yeah, she is quite a little superstar around here at the moment | :57:22. | :57:25. | |
to say the least. Well, quite right too. Thank you so much both of you. | :57:26. | :57:28. | |
Thank you, Roxy. Thank you Kate. Thank you very much for talking to | :57:29. | :57:33. | |
us this morning. No problem, thanks a lot. Bye. We recorded that before | :57:34. | :57:36. | |
Roxy went to school! Let's get the latest | :57:37. | :57:42. | |
weather update with Carol. Not as spring-like as it should be? | :57:43. | :57:50. | |
We have had temperatures way love average. This week, they will be | :57:51. | :57:55. | |
below average. If you have been planting in your garden bear that in | :57:56. | :58:04. | |
mind... Not it this weekend, no. This morning we've got varied | :58:05. | :58:10. | |
weather. Look at this lovely picture taken by one of our Weather Watchers | :58:11. | :58:14. | |
in Durham. In Wales it has been a wet morning, but for us things will | :58:15. | :58:17. | |
improve as a weather front sinks south. So you can see where we have | :58:18. | :58:23. | |
the earlier holes. All this cloud sinking south. The bright white is a | :58:24. | :58:28. | |
weather front. That weather front is producing rain and the rain will | :58:29. | :58:31. | |
continue its journey moving towards the South East through the course | :58:32. | :58:35. | |
kft day accompanied by gusty winds. Behind it, brighter skies already | :58:36. | :58:39. | |
across Scotland and Northern Ireland will filter down into Northern | :58:40. | :58:43. | |
England and Wales. But with them comes the colder weather that | :58:44. | :58:47. | |
Victoria as alluding to. Colder and showery at that. So it is the far | :58:48. | :58:51. | |
south-east that will hang on to the highest temperatures as we go | :58:52. | :58:55. | |
through the early part of this week. Even so they are going to be coming | :58:56. | :58:59. | |
down. There is the rain continuing its journey, when you see yellows | :59:00. | :59:03. | |
and greens that denotes heavier bursts of rain. It is a windy day | :59:04. | :59:08. | |
particularly windy this morning across the Western Isles, but by | :59:09. | :59:12. | |
this afternoon the strongest winds will be across the Northern Isles, | :59:13. | :59:15. | |
particularly Shetlandment here too, there will be showers. Showers and | :59:16. | :59:19. | |
sunshine across the rest of Scotland, Northern Ireland, and some | :59:20. | :59:22. | |
getting into Northern England. Maybe a little bit of hail mixed in, but | :59:23. | :59:26. | |
any snow will be on the hills. Brightening up after this morning's | :59:27. | :59:29. | |
rain across Wales. Here is our weather front draped acrosses East | :59:30. | :59:32. | |
Anglia and through the Midlands and into the South East and extending | :59:33. | :59:36. | |
down into the Channel Islands. Behind it, it will slowly start to | :59:37. | :59:40. | |
brighten up across the south-west, but there will be showers this | :59:41. | :59:43. | |
afternoon. These are the temperatures you can expect if | :59:44. | :59:46. | |
you're stepping out. Seven to ten Celsius in the north. Still 13 | :59:47. | :59:49. | |
Celsius or 14 Celsius, but not feeling particularly special in the | :59:50. | :59:52. | |
South East with the rain. That rain clears away on to the near Continent | :59:53. | :59:58. | |
leaving clearer skies and a real rash of showers coming in. Some of | :59:59. | :00:02. | |
the showers across Northern Ireland, Scotland, Northern England too will | :00:03. | :00:05. | |
be of snow. Some of them even at lower levels. There is also the risk | :00:06. | :00:10. | |
of ice. Any showers, southern England and Wales are more likely | :00:11. | :00:14. | |
going to be of rain, but it will be a cold start to the day. Much colder | :00:15. | :00:18. | |
than it was this morning, but a lot of sunshine. Now, tomorrow we carry | :00:19. | :00:24. | |
on with the showers, some of those wintry, but the wintry flavour will | :00:25. | :00:28. | |
be largely on the hills, but look at those temperatures, four Celsius in | :00:29. | :00:31. | |
Glasgow and six Celsius in Newcastle, but 11 Celsius in London. | :00:32. | :00:36. | |
Hello it's Monday, it's 10am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire. | :00:37. | :00:39. | |
More than a million single parent families are chasing thousands | :00:40. | :00:42. | |
of pounds in unpaid child maintenance; the total owed | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
And some have been chasing that money for years. | :00:48. | :00:55. | |
I just didn't have the money to look after him. I don't understand how a | :00:56. | :01:02. | |
father can get away with not paying it. How can he sleep at night? How | :01:03. | :01:05. | |
can he sleep at night when that's his whiled that he owes money to? I | :01:06. | :01:10. | |
don't know how he sleeps, I really don't. | :01:11. | :01:12. | |
We'll be speaking to a mum who says she's owed money | :01:13. | :01:15. | |
as well as a charity and an MP who can tell us how | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
It's not just professional athletes who dope; a third of amateur sports | :01:19. | :01:23. | |
people say they know someone personally who has doped according | :01:24. | :01:25. | |
Were you ever scared of getting caught? | :01:26. | :01:31. | |
Like I say the real thing for wasn't racing. | :01:32. | :01:35. | |
I didn't do a lot of racing on those substances. | :01:36. | :01:37. | |
Vera Lynn, the World War II singer, turns 100 today. | :01:38. | :01:45. | |
Events across the UK will celebrate her life. | :01:46. | :01:56. | |
# There'll be blue Birds over # The Whitecliffsofdover # | :01:57. | :02:17. | |
Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news. | :02:18. | :02:22. | |
Police have arrested a man on suspicion of murdering | :02:23. | :02:25. | |
a one-year-old boy at a flat in North London. | :02:26. | :02:27. | |
The man will also be questioned on suspicion | :02:28. | :02:30. | |
of attempting to murder a girl, thought to be the boy's twin sister. | :02:31. | :02:35. | |
The boy died in the early hours of Sunday and the girl remains | :02:36. | :02:38. | |
in a critical condition in hospital. | :02:39. | :02:39. | |
Care companies have cancelled contracts with 95 UK councils, | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
saying they cannot deliver services for the amount they are being paid. | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
A BBC Panorama investigation found some firms said | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
they could not recruit or retain the staff they needed. | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
The Local Government Association said the situation was the result | :02:56. | :02:58. | |
of "historic under-funding" and an ageing population. | :02:59. | :02:59. | |
Figures obtained by this programme show 1.2 million single-parent | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
families are owed child maintenance in the UK. | :03:05. | :03:07. | |
Many of those families have been chasing the payments for years, | :03:08. | :03:09. | |
and government figures suggest the total child maintenance debt | :03:10. | :03:12. | |
At least 17 people have been killed in Ghana when a huge tree was swept | :03:13. | :03:18. | |
over a waterfall and crashed down onto a group of swimmers below. | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
The tree had been uprooted during a powerful storm. | :03:24. | :03:27. | |
Most of those killed were high school pupils. | :03:28. | :03:39. | |
A public toilet in Japan has inserted a facial recognition system | :03:40. | :03:55. | |
to stop people taking large amounts of loo roll home. | :03:56. | :04:15. | |
Do get in touch with us throughout the morning - | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged | :04:20. | :04:22. | |
We can join Olly at the BBC Sport Centre now. | :04:23. | :04:26. | |
At the start of our State of Sport week across the BBC, | :04:27. | :04:29. | |
the head of UK anti-doping Nicole Sapstead says she's alarmed | :04:30. | :04:31. | |
at the results of a BBC Poll looking at Doping in Amateur sport, | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
Over a 1000 sportsmen and women took aprt and 35 percent said they knew | :04:36. | :04:41. | |
Certainly the figures are incredibly alarming. That said, they do confirm | :04:42. | :04:53. | |
what UK anti-doping has long suspected and also seen through some | :04:54. | :04:59. | |
of our intelligence-led testing. The problem with amateur sport is that | :05:00. | :05:02. | |
people don't think they're going to be tested. | :05:03. | :05:06. | |
lost ground on the Premier League leaders Chelsea after a 1-1 draw | :05:07. | :05:13. | |
James Milner had given Liverpool the lead from the penalty spot | :05:14. | :05:17. | |
but Sergio Aguero equalised for City midway through the second half. | :05:18. | :05:20. | |
Tottenham have gone clear in second place, 2 points ahead of City but 10 | :05:21. | :05:25. | |
Christian Eriksen and Dele Alli scored the goals that beat | :05:26. | :05:31. | |
Southampton 2-1 at White Hart Lane yesterday Celtic are 25 points clear | :05:32. | :05:38. | |
Southampton 2-1 at White Hart Lane yesterday. | :05:39. | :05:40. | |
With 9 games to go one more win will do for the title They won | :05:41. | :05:48. | |
With 9 games to go one more win will do for the title. | :05:49. | :05:51. | |
Some really tragic news from Irish football and the Derry City captain, | :05:52. | :05:56. | |
Ryan McBride, has died suddenly at the age of 27. | :05:57. | :05:59. | |
On Saturday he led his side to a 4-0 win over Drogheda United | :06:00. | :06:03. | |
in the League of Ireland Premier Division. | :06:04. | :06:05. | |
Leicester Tigers have won the Anglo Welsh Cup | :06:06. | :06:20. | |
Tom Brady scored their only try in a 16-12 win over | :06:21. | :06:28. | |
The win ends a four year trophy drought for the Tigers, | :06:29. | :06:33. | |
whilst it was the second year running that Exeter | :06:34. | :06:35. | |
Roger Federer's Indian summer continues. | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
After an 18th Major win at the Australian Open in January | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
he's become the oldest player to win an ATP Masters title. | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
Federer, who is now 35 years old, missed a lot of last year | :06:48. | :06:50. | |
with a knee problem, but he is a rejeuvenated player, | :06:51. | :06:54. | |
and he's won the prestigious Indian Wells tournament | :06:55. | :06:57. | |
This programme can reveal that amount of unpaid child maintenance | :06:58. | :07:17. | |
parents are currently chasing stands at ?3.8 billion. | :07:18. | :07:20. | |
The money is owed by non-resident parents, or absent parents, | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
and has built up over the last 23 years. | :07:25. | :07:27. | |
It affects 1.2 million people across the country. | :07:28. | :07:30. | |
Our reporter Nicola Rees has been speaking to some | :07:31. | :07:33. | |
We played you her full report an hour ago. | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
Laura lives in Sheffield. Her son is ten years old. His dad has been | :07:38. | :07:48. | |
assessed and should be paying maintenance. Bought him a couple of | :07:49. | :07:55. | |
books. ?50 at the beginning in 2009. We are now in 2017 and the total | :07:56. | :08:04. | |
amount that he owes Louis is ?9,000. What was it like for you | :08:05. | :08:08. | |
particularly early on to survive on one income? I'm sort of taking him | :08:09. | :08:16. | |
to the park, get a picnic every single day, take a book, you know, I | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
did my best. I would have liked to have done more. When couples split | :08:22. | :08:28. | |
up, they are both expected to condition tribute to the cost of | :08:29. | :08:33. | |
bringing up their children. Almost 1.2 million parents in the UK have | :08:34. | :08:38. | |
failed to pay a total of ?3.8 billion in child maintenance. The | :08:39. | :08:42. | |
Child Support Agency was set up to help families in 1993, but it's been | :08:43. | :08:47. | |
dogged with problems. Computer systems didn't work properly and | :08:48. | :08:50. | |
parents who didn't pay up weren't tracked down. | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
Shouldn't just be able to walk away and say it's history when it's due | :08:55. | :09:01. | |
to their errors and their poor practice that money hasn't been | :09:02. | :09:04. | |
collected. That's wrong and the Government should pay for that. Over | :09:05. | :09:11. | |
23 years, a multibillion pound arrears debt has accumulated. It's | :09:12. | :09:14. | |
money that should have been available for children. I'll pop you | :09:15. | :09:20. | |
on hold a moment... For Laura, the fight is far from over. | :09:21. | :09:28. | |
Right, I've got ?9,109. OK, that's the figure I've got. So what's | :09:29. | :09:37. | |
happening with that money? Laura's former partner is a children's | :09:38. | :09:44. | |
entertainer in Brighton. We asked him why he hasn't paid maintenance | :09:45. | :09:48. | |
for Louis and he declined to comment. In a statement, the | :09:49. | :09:51. | |
Government said: In 2012, the child maintenance | :09:52. | :10:03. | |
service replaced the CSA with new IT systems and it was supposed to solve | :10:04. | :10:09. | |
the arrears problem. It's already clocked up ?93 million in | :10:10. | :10:12. | |
maintenance debts. At the moment, there are still questions to be | :10:13. | :10:18. | |
asked about how much effort it's put into chasing those who choose not to | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
pay. We don't think as yet it's got that right. I don't understand how a | :10:24. | :10:29. | |
father can get away with not paying it. How can he sleep at night? How | :10:30. | :10:34. | |
can he sleep at night when that's his whiled he owes money to? I don't | :10:35. | :10:36. | |
know how he sleeps, I really don't. If your ex partner isn't | :10:37. | :10:40. | |
paying child maintenance Really keen to hear how you cope | :10:41. | :10:43. | |
without it and what've As you'd expect, we asked | :10:44. | :10:47. | |
the Department of Work Pensions Let's talk to Heather, | :10:48. | :10:51. | |
a mum who's spent 6 years chasing almost ?3000 in child maintenance | :10:52. | :10:56. | |
arrears for her daughter. Conservative MP Heidi Allen | :10:57. | :10:59. | |
who is part of a group of Mps who've been investigating child maintenance | :11:00. | :11:07. | |
arrears; their report Janet Allbeson from the single | :11:08. | :11:08. | |
parent charity Gingerbread And Michael l Lewkowicz, | :11:09. | :11:13. | |
from the charity There is ?93 million | :11:14. | :11:15. | |
of unpaid maintenance under Heather, hello, you're still | :11:16. | :11:30. | |
fighting for the arrears, what has it been like getting that money? | :11:31. | :11:34. | |
It's been horrendous, I've had to do all the chasing and investigating. | :11:35. | :11:42. | |
I've had to get my MP involved to assist because they've never done | :11:43. | :11:45. | |
anything about it, the Child Support Agency. Because he's self-employed, | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
they would only go on what he'd say they were earning and I was | :11:51. | :11:54. | |
obviously convinced he was earning more money and I wanted them to | :11:55. | :11:58. | |
carry out a financial investigation but they wouldn't do it. So after a | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
year of chasing them, I had to get my MP involved who wrote a letter to | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
them and then they carried out a financial investigation and found | :12:09. | :12:11. | |
that he had more money in his bank account than he was declaring. He | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
was allowed to appeal and we went to a tribunal. The tribunal dismissed | :12:16. | :12:21. | |
his appeal and awarded me, well my daughter the sum that the CSA said | :12:22. | :12:27. | |
he owed. On top of that, I had already swapped over to the child | :12:28. | :12:31. | |
maintenance service and obviously I had to get them to recalculate the | :12:32. | :12:34. | |
payment that he should have been making from them once we got the | :12:35. | :12:39. | |
figures correct for his earnings. At first, they said they wouldn't back | :12:40. | :12:44. | |
date the arrears to the start of my claim so again I got my MP involved | :12:45. | :12:50. | |
who wrote to them again and they then agreed to back date them which | :12:51. | :12:53. | |
is why we have got the arrears they've got now. But they will not | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
do anything to force him to pay the arrears. They say that their | :12:59. | :13:06. | |
objective is to get a regular maintenance payment but the arrears | :13:07. | :13:09. | |
come second. They do have a priority in how they collect the money, they | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
say, and their fees, their 4% charge I pay is more important to them and | :13:15. | :13:22. | |
hiring their priorities than my ayears. Do you think the child | :13:23. | :13:26. | |
maintenance service is what went before, the Child Support Agency? We | :13:27. | :13:29. | |
are very worried it's taking the same approach which is to say that | :13:30. | :13:33. | |
as long as you pay something that's good enough. They seem very slow, | :13:34. | :13:39. | |
very Le that are tick to collect back money. That creates a hole in | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
single parents' budgets. There are bills they can't pay, they savings | :13:44. | :13:46. | |
get run-down. That debt really matters. It's not just paying money | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
this week and promising to do it in future, it's the money you owe from | :13:52. | :13:54. | |
the past and they should be doing more to collect that. We'll talk to | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
Heidi about that in a moment. Michael on behalf of fathers, the | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
dads who're paying child maintenance, what are they saying | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
about how they're treated? They have a similar experience, contacting the | :14:09. | :14:14. | |
RSA or CMS, faced with dozens of phone calls and they say, the | :14:15. | :14:20. | |
computer says we can't listen to your point -- the CSA. The formula | :14:21. | :14:26. | |
that CMS uses doesn't take into account the essential | :14:27. | :14:28. | |
cost-of-living, the basic threshold at which they start to make payments | :14:29. | :14:34. | |
hasn't been reviewed since 1998 which means that they get pushed | :14:35. | :14:39. | |
into a place where with cost ofleying having increased | :14:40. | :14:41. | |
dramatically over that time they, however much they would like to | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
contribute more, the large number cannot and we know that there are | :14:46. | :14:50. | |
56% of all the arrears cases are actually for people owing less than | :14:51. | :14:53. | |
?1,000. These are people who simply don't have the money to pay it even | :14:54. | :14:58. | |
though they would very much wish to support their parent... Their | :14:59. | :15:03. | |
children? Yes. Do you accept that some exes do lie about their incomes | :15:04. | :15:07. | |
so they don't pay as much as they should? That happens in any system, | :15:08. | :15:14. | |
people try to minimise what they owe, whether it's tax or child | :15:15. | :15:17. | |
maintenance. We believe that both parents really should be supporting | :15:18. | :15:21. | |
their parents both financially and non-financially and the people we | :15:22. | :15:25. | |
get 25,000 calls to the helplines from fathers every year and these | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
are people who desperately want to maintain their involvement with | :15:30. | :15:31. | |
their children, want to be able to support them, but when we carried | :15:32. | :15:36. | |
out a large scale survey of our service users, what really shocked | :15:37. | :15:40. | |
and surprised us, we weren't expecting this as a response, was | :15:41. | :15:44. | |
just how many people were saying, I can't afford it, I'm feeling | :15:45. | :15:48. | |
suicidal, I'm having to live with my parents without whose help I | :15:49. | :15:49. | |
wouldn't be able to pay maintenance. Heidi you and your fellow MPs have | :15:50. | :16:00. | |
been looking at this. What can you do to make the child maintenance | :16:01. | :16:04. | |
service for efficient and more effective when it comes to | :16:05. | :16:07. | |
collecting maintenance now and arrears? We have to understand what | :16:08. | :16:10. | |
we want the system for because we found time and time again in our | :16:11. | :16:15. | |
evidence where there is an amicable split parents get on with it and | :16:16. | :16:18. | |
they do the best thing for the children. If the Government is going | :16:19. | :16:22. | |
to have a system because when these arrears aren't collected and the | :16:23. | :16:27. | |
real issue with self mroult, I'm self-employed, declared earnings, | :16:28. | :16:30. | |
this is fraud to HMRC. From that point of view the Government does | :16:31. | :16:34. | |
have a role, I believe, also to keep these mums in employment, not | :16:35. | :16:38. | |
claiming benefits. They should be out there so it is a double cost to | :16:39. | :16:43. | |
the taxpayer. We need a system that has effective enforcement powers and | :16:44. | :16:46. | |
let's the court do the job if the court is the more effective way of | :16:47. | :16:49. | |
identifying what somebody should owe, but at the moment the CMS seems | :16:50. | :16:54. | |
to be causing more of a blockage in some instances. Example of court | :16:55. | :16:59. | |
awarding or saying that a parent should pay ?3500 a month in arrears, | :17:00. | :17:06. | |
very wealthy and by the time it got into hands of the CMS it was ?11. | :17:07. | :17:13. | |
What? We are talking about, not everybody, of course, behaves, there | :17:14. | :17:16. | |
are the rotten apples that are out there. At the minute I'm | :17:17. | :17:20. | |
self-employed again, you need to reassess my income. So people are | :17:21. | :17:24. | |
deliberately moving between employment and self employment | :17:25. | :17:28. | |
because they know they'll get reassessed so they are playing the | :17:29. | :17:31. | |
system? It is one of the most fundamental flaws in the system. | :17:32. | :17:34. | |
What recommendation can you come up with in your report which is due | :17:35. | :17:38. | |
next week to stop that? One basic thing we'd like to see, if the old | :17:39. | :17:44. | |
CSA system there was a thing called lifestyle incompatible with income. | :17:45. | :17:48. | |
Look at the house, the cars, the holidays, this parent isn't earning, | :17:49. | :17:51. | |
you know, minimum wage. That used to be taken into account. That's been | :17:52. | :17:56. | |
removed in the new CMS system and that's a fundamental tool that we | :17:57. | :18:01. | |
need. I'd like to see greater enforcement powers, more staff | :18:02. | :18:04. | |
chasing up and those arrears are so important. There seems to be, I | :18:05. | :18:10. | |
understand prioritisation with resource in the DWP, but these | :18:11. | :18:15. | |
arrears, ?500 and ?1,000 might seem a small amount to many in the grand | :18:16. | :18:23. | |
scheme of things, but when we are talking families on low incomes, | :18:24. | :18:27. | |
this is a huge amount of money. Some of the things coming in the report, | :18:28. | :18:31. | |
will they work? Is that what's needed? She's right that they have | :18:32. | :18:37. | |
gone from a model which is simple and cheap to operate, but it is not | :18:38. | :18:41. | |
giving a fair deal and when it comes to arrears, that can take effort and | :18:42. | :18:45. | |
resources. Particularly when someone is self-employed. It is easy to hide | :18:46. | :18:50. | |
and it is almost like if it becomes too difficult, they won't bother and | :18:51. | :18:53. | |
that's not acceptable because children of traders and business | :18:54. | :18:56. | |
people they need child maintenance like everyone else. That's right | :18:57. | :19:00. | |
when they're self-employed they don't want to know. It is too much | :19:01. | :19:04. | |
like hard work for them to do any investigations and they just let it | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
go and they just listen to what they're saying, what their earnings | :19:10. | :19:14. | |
are. I have been told that we can only work things out on what he's | :19:15. | :19:19. | |
telling us that he's earning. I know he's earning more money than that, I | :19:20. | :19:26. | |
know, he is. HMRC under the new system will be able to look at what | :19:27. | :19:30. | |
the tax return is. If they're fiddling the tax figures... They | :19:31. | :19:38. | |
don't. That's not on there. Let Michael finish. The other thing | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
which is, there is a second fundamental flaw of the assessment | :19:43. | :19:45. | |
system which is how it works in shared parenting arrangements. | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
Currently, we have a system which effectively divides parents into the | :19:50. | :19:54. | |
old-fashioned way of looking at provider, father, and carer, mother. | :19:55. | :19:57. | |
It doesn't take into account that a lot of people would and do have | :19:58. | :20:02. | |
shared parenting arrangements and it discourages them. So for example, if | :20:03. | :20:09. | |
the parent more or less share equal parenting after they've separated | :20:10. | :20:12. | |
between them then actually all of the benefits and allowances for the | :20:13. | :20:17. | |
child go to the one parent who has got slightly more time than the | :20:18. | :20:21. | |
other. Which can be five, ten, ?15,000 a year. They will on top of | :20:22. | :20:25. | |
that be expected to make child maintenance payments. So although | :20:26. | :20:28. | |
they're both caring for their child and giving their love and attention | :20:29. | :20:32. | |
and care as well as practical, physical care for their children, | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
the formula actually doesn't reflect it and it undermines the principles | :20:37. | :20:42. | |
of the 2014 Children and Families Act which encourages shared | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
parenting. It obstructs it. Let me read some messages. Michelle | :20:47. | :20:51. | |
e-mailed to say, "My children's father has religious paid paint nans | :20:52. | :20:55. | |
for our three children for the past 13 years. He has provided ?50. He is | :20:56. | :21:00. | |
a self-employed painter and decorator and he earns ?200 a month | :21:01. | :21:05. | |
according to his accountant. This isn't true. I asked Government | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
authorities for help. They, the CS and the tax authorities ask me to | :21:12. | :21:15. | |
investigate him and provide evidence. My children's father and | :21:16. | :21:19. | |
the Government have let us down." Grace says, "I never received a | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
penny towards the cost of bringing up my children. Their father could | :21:24. | :21:26. | |
afford new cars and frequent holidays while we were watching | :21:27. | :21:29. | |
every penny and buying from discount and second-hand shops. He never | :21:30. | :21:35. | |
looked after them or did any work connected with their upbringing." | :21:36. | :21:39. | |
What was it, lifestyle incompatible with income and if you're driving a | :21:40. | :21:46. | |
Ferrari and say you're only on ?200 a month, something doesn't add up. | :21:47. | :21:55. | |
It is in the CMS' interest... We've had people ringing us say they rung | :21:56. | :21:59. | |
the abuse helpline and the guy on the end of the phone said, "What do | :22:00. | :22:03. | |
you expect us to do about it? We're getting inundated with calls from | :22:04. | :22:06. | |
ex-partners demanding we investigate income. We haven't got the | :22:07. | :22:11. | |
resources." Unless HMRC work by the biggest bang for the buck and these | :22:12. | :22:15. | |
are small traders, small businessmen, they are not a priority | :22:16. | :22:18. | |
and that means children are losing out. Thank you so much all of you. | :22:19. | :22:21. | |
Thank you for coming on the programme. Cheers, Heather as well. | :22:22. | :22:25. | |
Thank you for your time, we appreciate it. | :22:26. | :22:31. | |
Since the murder of the MP Jo Cox last June, | :22:32. | :22:35. | |
police have investigated 53 crimes against Members of Parliament. | :22:36. | :22:37. | |
We will hear from one MP who is installing security systems in his | :22:38. | :22:42. | |
home because he is worried. Drug use at every level of sport | :22:43. | :22:49. | |
is "fast becoming a crisis"- that's the verdict of UK | :22:50. | :22:52. | |
Anti-Doping, who have described a BBC poll which shows widespread | :22:53. | :22:54. | |
doping in amateur sport It found more than a third | :22:55. | :22:56. | |
of amateur sports people say they personally know someone who has | :22:57. | :23:00. | |
doped, and 8% say they Half believe performance enhancing | :23:01. | :23:03. | |
substance use is "widespread" among I'm calling to sports within the UK | :23:04. | :24:35. | |
to help fund a robust and extensive anti-doping programme. | :24:36. | :24:44. | |
Former amateur cyclist Dan Stevens was banned | :24:45. | :24:45. | |
He told BBC Sport it wasn't about winning, | :24:46. | :24:49. | |
Were you ever scared of getting caught? | :24:50. | :24:58. | |
And like I say, I think the real thing for me wasn't really about | :24:59. | :25:04. | |
racing, I didn't do a lot of racing on these substances. | :25:05. | :25:08. | |
The main thing was curiosity. What does this do? | :25:09. | :25:11. | |
How much of a benefit does this give you? | :25:12. | :25:16. | |
And how does that change perceptions of what you need to do | :25:17. | :25:19. | |
I think it's widespread in all ranks. | :25:20. | :25:29. | |
I think it's widespread in celebrity, | :25:30. | :25:31. | |
I think it's widespread in the beauty industry, | :25:32. | :25:33. | |
I think it's certainly widespread | :25:34. | :25:34. | |
I also think it's just a way of modern-day life. | :25:35. | :25:40. | |
So how widespread is doping in amateur sport? | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
We can speak to Professor John Brewer who is a professor of Sport's | :25:45. | :25:50. | |
We can speak to Professor John Brewer who is a professor of sports | :25:51. | :25:53. | |
science at St Mary's University, London. | :25:54. | :25:55. | |
He's also a board member at UK Anti-Doping. | :25:56. | :25:57. | |
We also have Michelle Verroken from our Oxford news room, | :25:58. | :25:59. | |
Why do you think it is as widespread as it is in amateur sport? I think | :26:00. | :26:08. | |
it is. The figures are shocking. We have known for sometime there has | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
been a lot of use of banned substances. There are a number of | :26:13. | :26:16. | |
reasons and it does vary from one sport to another. Some athletes, | :26:17. | :26:20. | |
individuals, will try to improve their performance and want to get in | :26:21. | :26:24. | |
the first 15 and want to do better in road races or cycling events and | :26:25. | :26:27. | |
there are others who do it for the image. They want to have that great | :26:28. | :26:33. | |
six pack and build up the muscle bulk and look good. We have called | :26:34. | :26:36. | |
it amateur, but we must remember even at that level, people can earn | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
substantial amounts of money at the weekend winning races, playing for | :26:41. | :26:44. | |
their rugby team doing well at sport. The incentive to do that and | :26:45. | :26:50. | |
to continue doing so for as long as you can is great. The substances | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
available through the criminal punned world and in gyms, and the | :26:56. | :26:59. | |
internet and people can access those substances and use them to enhance | :27:00. | :27:02. | |
their performance. Michelle, do you think this is a big deal? Well, | :27:03. | :27:08. | |
certainly, I don't think it is a surprise because we've always known | :27:09. | :27:12. | |
that at amateur level certainly there has been the interest in | :27:13. | :27:17. | |
trying to supplement or enhance performance, but we've seen in this | :27:18. | :27:22. | |
country particularly a change in the sports culture to a really a no | :27:23. | :27:28. | |
compromise, anything to win, medals are so important and so we shouldn't | :27:29. | :27:33. | |
be surprised that people a the community lel of sport are looking | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
to the elite sports people and thinking, "Well, how do I get to be | :27:38. | :27:41. | |
as good as them?" Do you buy that? Yeah, I do. Michelle is right and I | :27:42. | :27:45. | |
think that the problem is the incentive is there to do so and I | :27:46. | :27:53. | |
agree with Nicole Sapstead who says we need for substantial funding of | :27:54. | :27:58. | |
the anti-doping authorities. If you compare one medal that Team GB won | :27:59. | :28:07. | |
at the Rio Games. OK, so you say more money for testing including | :28:08. | :28:11. | |
testing amateurs? Again, it is how you define amateurs and it is that | :28:12. | :28:15. | |
level where you have aspiring athletes who want to get on to the | :28:16. | :28:20. | |
performance pathway and earn the bigger money. Amateur doesn't exist | :28:21. | :28:23. | |
at that level where we're seeing a lot of the drug taking. You play | :28:24. | :28:27. | |
rugby for your local team today. You can earn money in a greater way than | :28:28. | :28:32. | |
you could 10, 15 or 20 years ago. So there is that incentive to do so. | :28:33. | :28:36. | |
There are the other reasons, there is the body beautiful image factor, | :28:37. | :28:40. | |
the incentive and the ability is there, we need to work closely with | :28:41. | :28:45. | |
the national governing bodies of sport that runs sport from | :28:46. | :28:48. | |
grass-roots level up to elite level to get them to support the targeted | :28:49. | :28:55. | |
testing at recreational level which only happens at the elite level | :28:56. | :28:58. | |
because that's all the funding allows us to do. Would you agree | :28:59. | :29:02. | |
more cash to do targeted testing? What I'm concerned about is that | :29:03. | :29:06. | |
this particular research has been turned into a cry for more money for | :29:07. | :29:10. | |
anti-doping. I actually think we have to be quite honest and say | :29:11. | :29:17. | |
well, testing is quite limited in its effectiveness and do we really | :29:18. | :29:23. | |
want to extend testing down to amateur level so that actually we | :29:24. | :29:27. | |
could be dissuading people from getting involved in sport and I mean | :29:28. | :29:31. | |
it would be inappropriate in a society where we've got an obesity | :29:32. | :29:36. | |
crisis, a concern with the lack of physical activity, that sudden we | :29:37. | :29:42. | |
start sanctioning and testing at the amateur level and in fact fact | :29:43. | :29:46. | |
people are dissuaded from taking part in activities. In countries | :29:47. | :29:51. | |
like Denmark, Norway, they do test in the gyms and that's part of what | :29:52. | :29:55. | |
you sign up to, but I think it's vital we think about what we really | :29:56. | :29:59. | |
need to do because we don't know at the elite level how much testing is | :30:00. | :30:04. | |
enough. We tested Lance Armstrong, Marian Jones extensively and never | :30:05. | :30:08. | |
ever tested them positive. So, smarter testing by all means, but | :30:09. | :30:13. | |
also we need to break this monopoly. We have one national anti-doping | :30:14. | :30:19. | |
organisation trying to now extend its tentacles into recognisery | :30:20. | :30:22. | |
rational level sport when in actual fact this could become something | :30:23. | :30:26. | |
that is more about the integrity of the way we live our lives. Thank you | :30:27. | :30:27. | |
both. Thank you very much. Joanna is in the BBC Newsroom | :30:28. | :30:39. | |
with a summary of the news. Police have arrested a man | :30:40. | :30:42. | |
on suspicion of murdering a one-year-old boy at a flat | :30:43. | :30:44. | |
in North London. The man will also be | :30:45. | :30:46. | |
questioned on suspicion of attempting to murder a girl, | :30:47. | :30:49. | |
thought to be the boy's twin sister. The boy died in the early hours | :30:50. | :30:52. | |
of Sunday and the girl remains in a critical condition | :30:53. | :30:55. | |
in hospital. Care companies have cancelled | :30:56. | :30:56. | |
contracts with 95 UK councils, saying they cannot deliver services | :30:57. | :30:59. | |
for the amount they are being paid. A BBC Panorama investigation | :31:00. | :31:01. | |
found some firms said they could not recruit or retain | :31:02. | :31:03. | |
the staff they needed. The Local Government Association | :31:04. | :31:06. | |
said the situation was the result of "historic under-funding" | :31:07. | :31:09. | |
and an ageing population. Figures obtained by this programme | :31:10. | :31:14. | |
show 1.2 million single-parent families are owed child maintenance | :31:15. | :31:17. | |
in the UK. Many of those families have been | :31:18. | :31:20. | |
chasing the payments for years, and government figures suggest | :31:21. | :31:24. | |
the total child maintenance debt At least 17 people have been killed | :31:25. | :31:27. | |
in Ghana when a huge tree was swept over a waterfall and crashed down | :31:28. | :31:34. | |
onto a group of swimmers below. The tree had been uprooted | :31:35. | :31:37. | |
during a powerful storm. Most of those killed | :31:38. | :31:40. | |
were high school pupils. The director of the FBI, | :31:41. | :31:44. | |
James Comey, will give evidence today about alleged Russian | :31:45. | :31:48. | |
interference in the US Appearing before the House | :31:49. | :31:50. | |
Intelligence Committee, he's also expected to face questions | :31:51. | :31:55. | |
about a second explosive issue - President Trump's claim | :31:56. | :31:59. | |
that his predecessor, Barack Obama, authorised a wire-tap | :32:00. | :32:02. | |
of Trump Tower during the campaign. That's a summary of the latest news, | :32:03. | :32:12. | |
join me for BBC Newsroom Laura has an 18-month-old daughter, | :32:13. | :32:24. | |
breast-fed her for seven or eight months. I tried to give her breast | :32:25. | :32:28. | |
milk from a bottle and I was asked by others in public why I wasn't | :32:29. | :32:33. | |
breast-feeding. The bigger my daughter got, I was asked why I was | :32:34. | :32:40. | |
still breast-feeding. You can't win. You maybe want to put Socks on that | :32:41. | :32:49. | |
child, some youngsters muttered. My child took her own Socks off. The | :32:50. | :32:55. | |
first time I was in a pub since my daughter had been | :32:56. | :33:07. | |
born, she was five months, I had a pint of cider. A person muttered | :33:08. | :33:18. | |
about me. There is nothing wrong with having a pint of cider with | :33:19. | :33:22. | |
your Sunday lunch even if you have had a baby, it's fine! Now the | :33:23. | :33:24. | |
sport. Olly Foster has the morning's | :33:25. | :33:26. | |
sports headlines now. These are headlines this morning | :33:27. | :33:29. | |
at the start of our state of sport The head of UK anti-doping | :33:30. | :33:32. | |
Nicole Sapstead says she's alarmed at the results of a BBC Poll looking | :33:33. | :33:36. | |
at doping in amateur sport. 35% said they have | :33:37. | :33:39. | |
known someone who used In the Premier League, | :33:40. | :33:41. | |
Manchester City and Liverpool remain third and fourth in the table | :33:42. | :33:49. | |
after cancelling each other out Sergio Aguero scored City's | :33:50. | :33:52. | |
equaliser in the 1-1 draw Tottenham Hotspur are now clear | :33:53. | :33:58. | |
in second place after beating Christian Eriksen and Dele | :33:59. | :34:01. | |
Alli scored the goals. They are ten points | :34:02. | :34:06. | |
behind leaders Chelsea. And the rejeuvenated Roger Federer | :34:07. | :34:08. | |
has won his second title of the year after an 18th major triumph | :34:09. | :34:11. | |
at the Australian Open. The 35-year-has become then oldest | :34:12. | :34:13. | |
man to win an ATP Masters title. He beat fellow swiss Stan Wawrinka | :34:14. | :34:17. | |
in the Indian Wells final. I'll be back with more | :34:18. | :34:21. | |
sport on BBC News Dame Vera Lynn, the Forces' | :34:22. | :34:23. | |
Sweetheart is 100 years old today. A 350-foot image of her | :34:24. | :34:32. | |
projected onto the White Cliffs of Dover last night | :34:33. | :34:36. | |
although a flypast by a pair of spitfires over the cliffs set | :34:37. | :34:41. | |
for 11 am this morning has # The white cliffs | :34:42. | :34:45. | |
of Dover # The little things that made | :34:46. | :35:03. | |
you cry # There were angels | :35:04. | :35:18. | |
dining at the Ritz... # But I know we'll meet | :35:19. | :35:34. | |
again some sunny day. # England shall be free # If England | :35:35. | :35:55. | |
means as much to you Dame Vera Lynn says she's thrilled | :35:56. | :36:14. | |
by the tributes and will be thinking of all those servicemen and women | :36:15. | :36:27. | |
who'd glanced back at the White Cliffs of Dover | :36:28. | :36:31. | |
they'd headed off to war. This is her speaking | :36:32. | :36:34. | |
with her daughter Virginia on a special programme for her 100th | :36:35. | :36:37. | |
birthday on BBC Two on Saturday. What decided you to go to Burma? | :36:38. | :36:54. | |
Well, I just wanted to go somewhere that nobody had been before. Yes. So | :36:55. | :37:03. | |
they said, no-one's gone to Burma yet. So I said, right, that's where | :37:04. | :37:10. | |
I'll go. Because it was very hot and humid out there. Very hot? Very hot. | :37:11. | :37:16. | |
Couldn't wear make-up, only a lipstick. That was the first mistake | :37:17. | :37:22. | |
I made, putting make-up on. And the other one was? Having a perm wasn't | :37:23. | :37:27. | |
it? Oh, yes, I shouldn't have had a perm. I had terrible trouble. It | :37:28. | :37:34. | |
would have been easier to control with my hair straight. It went all | :37:35. | :37:42. | |
phrasy. There's Len on the left. You just had Len on piano didn't you? | :37:43. | :37:47. | |
Yes. We used to carry that around with us. Not literally. In a little | :37:48. | :37:56. | |
truck. It didn't suffer an awful lot when you consider in the state of | :37:57. | :38:01. | |
the roads. We did have trouble at one time when we just started a | :38:02. | :38:08. | |
concert and the sides fell off. The sides of the piano fell off and the | :38:09. | :38:13. | |
boys had to rush up and hold the sides on before we could continue | :38:14. | :38:15. | |
the programme. A lot of flies around out there | :38:16. | :38:24. | |
weren't there? Oh, yes, they used to settle on my bowl of soup and I | :38:25. | :38:29. | |
useded to have to skim them off with my spoon and try and duck underneath | :38:30. | :38:31. | |
the flies so I could get some soup. The Queen wrote to her to mark | :38:32. | :38:35. | |
her birthday saying, "You cheered and uplifted us | :38:36. | :38:38. | |
all in the war and after the war, and I am sure that this evening | :38:39. | :38:41. | |
the blue birds of Dover will be flying over to wish you a happy | :38:42. | :38:46. | |
anniversary, Elizabeth R." Full coverage of the tributes to her | :38:47. | :38:50. | |
throughout the day on BBC News. Labour's deputy leader Tom Watson | :38:51. | :39:03. | |
has warned that the party is facing a battle for its existence | :39:04. | :39:06. | |
because of what he's labelled a "secret plan" by the Unite union | :39:07. | :39:08. | |
to support the left-wing Our political guru Norman Smith | :39:09. | :39:11. | |
is at the Unison headquarters Remind us who Momentum are? Jeremy | :39:12. | :39:27. | |
Corbyn's number two says there is a secret plot by Momentum to take over | :39:28. | :39:32. | |
the Labour Party and, says Mr Watson, they are poised to get large | :39:33. | :39:37. | |
amounts of funding from Labour's biggest union, Unite. He says, | :39:38. | :39:42. | |
following a tape-recording of a conversation by the man in charge of | :39:43. | :39:48. | |
Momentum, John Lanceman, there are apparently plans to take over | :39:49. | :39:54. | |
regional Labour Parties to get rid of critical local councillors to | :39:55. | :39:58. | |
take over the machinery of the Labour Party, to reintroduce | :39:59. | :40:02. | |
mandatory reselection to get rid of MPs opposed to Jeremy Corbyn. There | :40:03. | :40:07. | |
is an orchestrated campaign, he says, to take over the Labour Party. | :40:08. | :40:12. | |
Now, it's one thing to believe that, but Mr Watson's chosen to go public | :40:13. | :40:17. | |
with such concerns which underlines I think A the seriousness of his | :40:18. | :40:22. | |
fears, but B, the level of in-fighting now within the highest | :40:23. | :40:24. | |
reaches of the Labour Party. Who have you been speaking to about | :40:25. | :40:38. | |
this, Norman? Well, I spoke to Mr Watson this morning who was adamant | :40:39. | :40:43. | |
that this is more serious, he says, than the 1980s when you had | :40:44. | :40:49. | |
militant. Mr Corbyn's team seem to be aghast at the claims. Mr Corbyn | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
himself when arriving for an away-day here, well have a look, he | :40:55. | :40:56. | |
wasn't saying much. Is there a plot to take over | :40:57. | :40:59. | |
the Labour Party Mr Corbyn? So not much joy. His close allie and | :41:00. | :41:13. | |
Shadow Chancellor, John McDonnell was a bit more talkative when I got | :41:14. | :41:15. | |
hold of him. What he's trying to do | :41:16. | :41:17. | |
is influence the election of the general secretary | :41:18. | :41:19. | |
of Unite and he's dragged the Labour | :41:20. | :41:21. | |
Party into this, completely From what I've seen, Momentum | :41:22. | :41:24. | |
is like the organisation Tom's associated with, like Labour First | :41:25. | :41:27. | |
and Progress and others who want trade union support, of course | :41:28. | :41:30. | |
they do, and they want trade union At this point in time | :41:31. | :41:33. | |
to be raising it In the week that the ballot papers | :41:34. | :41:36. | |
go out for the Unite election I think this is about Tom's | :41:37. | :41:41. | |
interference in the Unite election. Well, he obviously wants to install | :41:42. | :41:44. | |
the candidate of his choice. Is it part of a move | :41:45. | :41:48. | |
against Mr Corbyn? Len McCluskey is a big | :41:49. | :41:52. | |
backer of Jeremy. I think it's all about Tom | :41:53. | :41:55. | |
and the internal battle Dragging the party into this | :41:56. | :41:57. | |
is disappointing. Mr McDonnell insists, this is not | :41:58. | :42:08. | |
Civil War, but you have to say, looking at it from the outside, it | :42:09. | :42:12. | |
looks remarkably like it when you have the Deputy Leader talking about | :42:13. | :42:16. | |
an orchestrated campaign led in part by the leader of the biggest union | :42:17. | :42:21. | |
supporting the Labour Party to take over the machinery of the Labour | :42:22. | :42:25. | |
Party and move it in another direction all together. These are | :42:26. | :42:30. | |
very, very serious allegations. The response of team Corbyn is to say | :42:31. | :42:35. | |
this is all part of Mr Watson trying to innawns a leadership contest | :42:36. | :42:39. | |
going on within Unite. As for Momentum, they say there's nothing | :42:40. | :42:42. | |
wrong about trying to shift the direction of the Labour Party, | :42:43. | :42:46. | |
they're quite open about their beliefs, yes, they do organise the | :42:47. | :42:50. | |
Labour Party, they want to promote their candidates, what's wrong with | :42:51. | :42:54. | |
that, they say. Thank you very much, Norman. | :42:55. | :43:07. | |
Facebook said it would work with organisations to flag up articles | :43:08. | :43:13. | |
making spurious claims and warn users when they posted the stories. | :43:14. | :43:16. | |
It seems to have put that into practise. One article about claims | :43:17. | :43:19. | |
that thousands of Irish people were taken to the US as slaves now | :43:20. | :43:25. | |
attracts an on screen warping that the claims have been widely disputed | :43:26. | :43:29. | |
-- warning. Ben Thompson is here with us now. Fill us in? I've tried | :43:30. | :43:35. | |
to post that fake news article and it allowed me to do that without any | :43:36. | :43:40. | |
warning whatsoever. About the Irish? And the fake slave trade that was a | :43:41. | :43:44. | |
fake news article, yes. This is very much in the early stages as far as | :43:45. | :43:47. | |
Facebook is concerned. You talk about November when we heard from | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
the boss of Facebook, he said look, we have a duty to make sure what we | :43:52. | :43:57. | |
share online is real. They talked about different proposals, saying | :43:58. | :44:01. | |
they were working on eseven different proposals to make sure | :44:02. | :44:05. | |
what we share online is accurate. It came to line during the EE | :44:06. | :44:09. | |
referendum campaign and the US elections, those were two big | :44:10. | :44:15. | |
criticisms for Facebook -- the EU. The most scandalous headlines and | :44:16. | :44:19. | |
the most wild chimes are the ones that often get shared most. Facebook | :44:20. | :44:23. | |
say they have now, if you post something that they think is fake, | :44:24. | :44:29. | |
you will get a warning and it says that the authenticity of this | :44:30. | :44:33. | |
article's been disputed, do you want to read why and it gives you links | :44:34. | :44:37. | |
to fact-checking websites. You can still post that if you want to but | :44:38. | :44:40. | |
it will come with a warning, we are told. And they've done this because | :44:41. | :44:44. | |
they've worked with two organisations that are checking the | :44:45. | :44:48. | |
accuracy of articles. If they think it's disputed, they'll flag up a | :44:49. | :44:52. | |
warning meaning we should know if what we are sharing is true. How do | :44:53. | :44:58. | |
they work out that the fakeriness of an article? This is when it gets | :44:59. | :45:03. | |
difficult. They are working with different organisations, they have | :45:04. | :45:09. | |
pure fact-checking statistics making sure the data is right. When it's | :45:10. | :45:13. | |
based on news, it's whether the news article is accurate, so | :45:14. | :45:16. | |
organisations like the Associated Press, for example. So they want | :45:17. | :45:19. | |
that from two sources. You need to have two sources to dispute it. What | :45:20. | :45:23. | |
is really interesting, Facebook doesn't say it's not true, they | :45:24. | :45:27. | |
don't say it's fake, they say the authenticity is disputed so it won't | :45:28. | :45:31. | |
go as far as saying it's not true. The big question then comes into | :45:32. | :45:35. | |
Facebook's definition of what is Facebook, is it a publisher of | :45:36. | :45:39. | |
information, a news source or a platform that allows us to share | :45:40. | :45:42. | |
information? And I think if we view it very much as a platform to share | :45:43. | :45:47. | |
information, they have maybe less responsibility over the accuracy of | :45:48. | :45:52. | |
that data, but if they're a publisher, many people say they | :45:53. | :45:56. | |
should be much more aware of what is being published on their website and | :45:57. | :46:02. | |
whether it's true. If you want to post an article on Facebook and the | :46:03. | :46:10. | |
notice disputes it, are you as likely to share that? Or do you not | :46:11. | :46:15. | |
want your mates to go, it's disputed, what are you posting it | :46:16. | :46:18. | |
for? If it will come with a warning saying it might not be true, you can | :46:19. | :46:22. | |
click on the links to find out why, it's that second set of eyes, isn't | :46:23. | :46:26. | |
it, it's that thing that might make us stop for a moment and think, is | :46:27. | :46:30. | |
what we are publishing really true because Facebook, Twitter, all of | :46:31. | :46:33. | |
the social media channels are great because we can share information but | :46:34. | :46:38. | |
I think it's so easy to do that nowadays that you don't probably | :46:39. | :46:41. | |
think about how true it is if you are clicking on share now. Maybe you | :46:42. | :46:44. | |
are right, it gives you that second pause for thought to think, is this | :46:45. | :46:49. | |
true and if not do I real hi want to post it -- really want to post it. | :46:50. | :46:54. | |
That could be enough to make people think about it, and to think about | :46:55. | :46:58. | |
whether that bit of gossip is true before you click share. | :46:59. | :47:04. | |
Death threats, hate-filled messages, harassment and criminal damage, | :47:05. | :47:08. | |
a small snapshot of the kind of abuse MPs have received | :47:09. | :47:11. | |
in the six months after the murder of MP Jo Cox in June. | :47:12. | :47:17. | |
A specialised police team set-up to investigate crimes against MPs | :47:18. | :47:20. | |
says it's looking at 50 complaints in the last six months. | :47:21. | :47:23. | |
So to give us an insight into the kind of abuse MPs get | :47:24. | :47:28. | |
on a regular basis and the impact it has on them, | :47:29. | :47:44. | |
We speak to Tom Brake who is getting security fitted to his home this | :47:45. | :47:54. | |
morning. And MP Lisa Cameron. Tell us what is happening at your home | :47:55. | :47:58. | |
and the reasons why? I'm taking advantage of a package that is | :47:59. | :48:03. | |
provided to members of Parliament to provide a level of security and so | :48:04. | :48:08. | |
this morning I've got someone coming in to upgrade the alarm because the | :48:09. | :48:13. | |
one that I hadn't wasn't deemed to be appropriate and also to look at | :48:14. | :48:19. | |
some of the security measures such as doors and locks and so on. Why? | :48:20. | :48:34. | |
Well, because post the very tragic murder of Jo Cox members of | :48:35. | :48:38. | |
Parliament are vulnerable and many members of Parliament... Didn't you | :48:39. | :48:47. | |
receive a specific e-mail? Yes, I received e-mails. One that post the | :48:48. | :48:53. | |
Brexit vote suggesting that I should consider carefully how I vote in | :48:54. | :48:58. | |
that I needed to vote the right way in the interests of myself and my | :48:59. | :49:02. | |
family. So I think most members of Parliament will receive e-mails of | :49:03. | :49:05. | |
that nature. I don't know if the people who are sending these | :49:06. | :49:09. | |
appreciate what the recipient feels and another thing that's worth | :49:10. | :49:13. | |
pointing out, of course, many members of Parliament, we rely on | :49:14. | :49:18. | |
staff to check social media so they will often be the ones who see the | :49:19. | :49:22. | |
more abusive, aggressive tweets or Facebook posts. What impact does it | :49:23. | :49:27. | |
have on you when you get a threatening message that says, you | :49:28. | :49:30. | |
should watch out for your family. Be very careful how you vote in the | :49:31. | :49:37. | |
future? . The sound cut in and out there, I can't catch that. I was | :49:38. | :49:42. | |
asking you Mr Brake what impact it does have on you when you get a | :49:43. | :49:46. | |
threatening e-mail which refers to your family? Clearly, most members | :49:47. | :49:50. | |
of Parliament, we are, we spend most of our lives actually in Parliament, | :49:51. | :49:55. | |
where we are protected, properly protected. However, our families | :49:56. | :50:00. | |
very often are in the constituency and therefore, anyone who is even | :50:01. | :50:04. | |
alluding to the vulnerability of our family is someone who causes a lot | :50:05. | :50:09. | |
of disaqet for members of Parliament and when the threats are perhaps | :50:10. | :50:14. | |
directed at constituency offices they pose a real, they're very | :50:15. | :50:18. | |
disconcerting for members of staff as well. Dr Lisa cam reportings | :50:19. | :50:24. | |
thank you for talking to us. Tell our audience about some of the | :50:25. | :50:28. | |
horrific messages you have received? I mean, it actually start the day | :50:29. | :50:32. | |
after I was elected to be honest. I went from being a doctor in a local | :50:33. | :50:38. | |
community who was well respected and never received these types of | :50:39. | :50:44. | |
threats online or e-mail, to having received death threats where images | :50:45. | :50:51. | |
of beheaded corpses were sent to me, with threats to my family as and my | :50:52. | :50:55. | |
children's lives and someone put together a letter from newspaper | :50:56. | :51:01. | |
word cuttings and sent it to me also threatening to harm me and my | :51:02. | :51:07. | |
family. So, it's something that I think you can't treat too lightly. | :51:08. | :51:10. | |
The security measures are certainly a step in the right direction and I | :51:11. | :51:15. | |
have to say that following from election having come from the NHS | :51:16. | :51:20. | |
and seeing the very good security and staff safety policies there I | :51:21. | :51:24. | |
was actually quite shocked that MPs at this stage had very little in | :51:25. | :51:28. | |
terms of risk management procedures in place. And this happened just | :51:29. | :51:33. | |
because you were an MP? Just because you became an MP? I believe so. I | :51:34. | :51:39. | |
think it is much to do with the way that MPs are seen in terms of public | :51:40. | :51:48. | |
perception and I can say that it did happen almost instantaneous on | :51:49. | :51:51. | |
moving from one career to the next and that was the defining change | :51:52. | :51:54. | |
that I experienced. It was almost like I was fair game and certainly | :51:55. | :51:58. | |
that my children and family were then fair game too which just isn't | :51:59. | :52:03. | |
right. No, it's not on. In terms of security measures, have you looked | :52:04. | :52:07. | |
at this for your family home as well as your constituency office? Yes, | :52:08. | :52:13. | |
the police have been out to the constituency office and just last | :52:14. | :52:18. | |
week they installed alarms at my home and also some panic buttons. I | :52:19. | :52:25. | |
have to say that I had moved to the countryside in a sense soy wouldn't | :52:26. | :52:30. | |
need these procedures, but I do think we need to take appropriate | :52:31. | :52:33. | |
risk management seriously now. Does it make you think twice about | :52:34. | :52:37. | |
whether you will seek re-election next time there is a general | :52:38. | :52:41. | |
election? I think you have to always take account of the impact upon your | :52:42. | :52:46. | |
family. I've put myself in public life and I didn't want to have a | :52:47. | :52:52. | |
negative impact on them. However, I grew up in the constituency that I | :52:53. | :52:55. | |
represent and it is a very real privilege to be able to represent | :52:56. | :52:58. | |
them and to do my very best for them. So it's something that I'm | :52:59. | :53:03. | |
hoping with the appropriate risk management measures in place that we | :53:04. | :53:06. | |
can all feel much more secure. OK. Thank you both very much. I really | :53:07. | :53:13. | |
appreciate your time. Thank you. Tom Brake Lib Dem MP and also Dr | :53:14. | :53:17. | |
Lisa Cameron SNP MP. This morning you have been telling | :53:18. | :53:26. | |
us the experience of being a new mum and the feeling you get when you're | :53:27. | :53:30. | |
scrutinised and talked about by strangers as well as family and | :53:31. | :53:33. | |
friends for some of the decisions you've made. Lots you got in touch. | :53:34. | :53:39. | |
One viewer says she was too scared to breastfeed in public. Hi. Good | :53:40. | :53:43. | |
morning. Hi, good morning. Thank you very much for talking to us. You're | :53:44. | :53:49. | |
welcome. Why were you too scared to breastfeed in public? I just think | :53:50. | :53:54. | |
there has been so much especially on social media just seeing videos | :53:55. | :53:58. | |
people have posted of people shouting and telling mums off for | :53:59. | :54:04. | |
breast-feeding if public and some mums get told that they should | :54:05. | :54:07. | |
breastfeed their children in the toilet which I've been told as well. | :54:08. | :54:12. | |
So I have just been let me try and avoid it by not staying out too long | :54:13. | :54:16. | |
and coming home to feed him. OK. Which is such a shame, isn't it? It | :54:17. | :54:20. | |
impacts on what you want to do? Yeah. Yeah, it does. Why were you | :54:21. | :54:26. | |
not able to think, I know this is easier said than done, I don't care | :54:27. | :54:30. | |
what other people think about how I am with my child? Yeah, I mean, | :54:31. | :54:36. | |
sometimes I do think that way, but there is still a part of me that | :54:37. | :54:41. | |
just gets really embarrassed. I just want to avoid confrontation. I hate | :54:42. | :54:45. | |
confrontation. So I think when I'm with other people. So if I'm with a | :54:46. | :54:49. | |
friend that is a new mum, that's also breast-feeding in public I feel | :54:50. | :54:54. | |
more comfortable, just not when I'm by myself. Let's bring in Lindsey. | :54:55. | :55:02. | |
Where abouts in the country are you? I'm in Hertfordshire. Tell us about | :55:03. | :55:07. | |
your experience? I think we put a lot of pressure on ourselves. I | :55:08. | :55:12. | |
think we get a warped view of what the professionals are telling us and | :55:13. | :55:16. | |
what you think to be hyper sensitive sometimes, I think. Obviously, as | :55:17. | :55:21. | |
being a new mum we tend to put a lot of pressure on ourselves and | :55:22. | :55:24. | |
sometimes you might feel judged when really you're not, you know what I | :55:25. | :55:29. | |
mean? Well, go on. No, I don't. Go on. Yes. So it is a, I think you get | :55:30. | :55:37. | |
hyper sensitive, you might think some people are looking at you in a | :55:38. | :55:43. | |
certain way or you know, it might be all in your mind a lot of the time. | :55:44. | :55:48. | |
So I think it is really important to have that family support around you | :55:49. | :55:53. | |
and be supported and actually I think, you're not going mad and just | :55:54. | :55:57. | |
to focus on yourself really and what's best for your family. And | :55:58. | :56:00. | |
that's really, really sound advice. Do you think you could take that on | :56:01. | :56:05. | |
board or is that more advice that you're not bothered about? I think | :56:06. | :56:09. | |
every advice st good advice. Yeah, deaf fitly. OK. Thank you both | :56:10. | :56:14. | |
thech. Very much. Thank you for getting in touch with the programme. | :56:15. | :56:21. | |
Richard Hammond has been hurt in a motorbike crash. Let's talk to our | :56:22. | :56:26. | |
entertainment correspondent. Tell us more about this accident then? Well, | :56:27. | :56:35. | |
we have very few details. It came through newspaper reports through | :56:36. | :56:39. | |
Jeremy Clarkson that Richard had fallen off his motorbike and he hurt | :56:40. | :56:44. | |
himself badly. Richard Hammond responded on the internet saying | :56:45. | :56:48. | |
thanks for the inquiries re my slight shunt. Yes, I fell off a bike | :56:49. | :56:53. | |
many times. Yes, I banged my head and everything else, but life goes | :56:54. | :56:56. | |
on." It is not clear how serious this was or if it disrupted filming | :56:57. | :57:01. | |
at all. Jeremy Clarkson was asked did he go to hospital? He said we | :57:02. | :57:05. | |
don't do hospitals. Whether he was joking or not, it is not clear how | :57:06. | :57:09. | |
serious this is. It is nowhere near as serious as the accident everyone | :57:10. | :57:12. | |
remembers from 11 years ago now when he was filming for Top Gear and was | :57:13. | :57:18. | |
in a medically-induced coma after a serious crash when he was testing a | :57:19. | :57:23. | |
jet powered dragster. People remember how badly injured he was | :57:24. | :57:26. | |
after that. He had a shot of short-term memory problems etcetera | :57:27. | :57:29. | |
after that, but made a full, full recovery. So this accident, even | :57:30. | :57:33. | |
though we don't know the full details, it is nowhere in the same | :57:34. | :57:36. | |
league of what happened 11 years ago. The message that Richard | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
Hammond posted on the website this morning was very jolly actually. | :57:41. | :57:45. | |
"Yes, I fell off my bike. Yes, I'm fine. Sorry about that." Son is a Am | :57:46. | :57:50. | |
big company and they've invested a lot in this programme. Their | :57:51. | :57:53. | |
insurers and health people would want to make sure he's fine. They | :57:54. | :57:56. | |
need to protect their star trio as it were. So it doesn't sound from | :57:57. | :58:00. | |
the tone of Richard Hammond's reply that this is a terribly, terribly | :58:01. | :58:05. | |
serious, but we don't have all the full details. This will probably | :58:06. | :58:08. | |
emerge during the day. Thank you very much. Thank you. | :58:09. | :58:14. | |
Thank you for your company today. | :58:15. | :58:20. |