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Good morning. As you can see and hear, we are live at Westminster

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this morning, the day after a man brought terror and chaos to the

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heart of the capital city. After Brussels, after Paris and Istanbul,

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after Berlin, it was inevitable, say some, this would happen again in

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London. We are about 100 metres from the Palace of Westminster. This is

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the House of Lords end and beyond that the House of Commons and over

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to my left, Westminster Bridge, where hundreds of tourists,

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Londoners, people from around the world were going about their daily

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business as they cross that bridge and a man drove onto the pavement

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and moved down dozens of people, killing some and critically injuring

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others. Police have made their first arrests in connection with the

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attack. Raids were carried out

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in Birmingham overnight - The Metropolitan Police a four

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people died in the incident including the attacker. A man and

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woman died when the attacker drove a car at pedestrians on Westminster

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Bridge. PC Keith Palmer was stabbed to death

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as he tried to stop the attacker The suspect was then shot dead

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by plain-clothes police officers. 29 people are being treated

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in hospital - seven of them A minute's silence will be

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held across Westminster The moment of the attack on

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Westminster Bridge. On the right-hand side we see a car moving

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at speed along the pavement in front of a slow-moving line of traffic. A

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figure, we now know it is a woman, falls into the water. And then panic

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as members of the public realise something is wrong. Three shots rang

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out. A photograph shows the immediate aftermath. An armed police

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officer stands poised over the attacker. At the foot is a knife and

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another knife is found on the ground. The police officer stabbed

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to death was Keith Palmer, 48, a husband and father. He was a member

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of the Parliamentary and diplomatic police command. The major terror

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investigation is under way in the capital and West Midlands. Overnight

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there was a raid on a flat in East Birmingham, the area closed off for

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more than two hours. The car used in the attack is believed to be hired

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in Solihull. Hundreds of detectives have worked through the night and we

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have searched six addresses and made seven arrests. The inquiries in

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Birmingham, London and other parts of the country continue. It is our

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belief that this attacker acted alone and was inspired by

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international terrorism. Two people died on the bridge. At least 29

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others were wounded, seven are in critical condition. The Prime

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Minister said parliament would meet as normal today. She urged the

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people of London and its visitors to do the same. And we will move

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forward together. Never giving in to terror. And never allowing the

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voices of hate and evil to drive us apart. Police have not named the

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attacker, but they believe they know his identity. They are treating it

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as a case of Islamist-related terrorism. My message to those who

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want to harm us and destroy our way of life is you will not succeed, you

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will not divide us, we will not be cowed by terrorists. Overnight a

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show of solidarity from the French capital, a city that has also

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suffered from the scourge of terrorism. The lights of the Eiffel

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Tower was switched off. The Prime Minister called the incident sick

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and depraved, but the official terror alert level has not been

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raised. The priority for the police now will be to find out if the

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attacker was working alone. Good morning. What is the feeling in

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Westminster this morning, Nicky Morgan? Clearly there is disruption.

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People are having to get into the Houses of Parliament by a different

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route. I think a sense of shock and a sense of, did this really

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happening? And yes it did. But also a determination we will get on with

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life which is why the Commons will sit this morning. People going

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around their normal daily lives. In terms of the House of Commons

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sitting as usual. At 9:30am there will be a minute's silence and then

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an opportunity for you and your colleagues to pay tribute to those

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who lost their lives, but the significance of those going about

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their business as normal, what is that? It is business as usual. If

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the terrorists win, we start affecting our daily lives when we

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allow the terror they attempt to create to stop us going about our

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usual business. It is significant that after the minute's silence we

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will continue to discuss the business we were going to discuss

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which is international trade questions. The first hour of every

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day we have question to administer and we will continue with that and

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then a statement from the Prime Minister. It is deeply significant

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the message you send is of course a moment of sombre reflection about

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heroism, the police officer who died, the tragedy of people

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innocently murdered, but also that we go on. The terrorist struck at

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the heart of Westminster, but, many of those who lost their lives were

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on Westminster Bridge, tourists, people going about their daily

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business. They were innocent victims. That is what makes this

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particularly awful. We are guarded at Westminster by fantastic

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policemen and security personnel and one of them lay down his life

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yesterday and ran towards the danger as others did. This seems on

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Westminster Bridge of innocent people and many will watch the

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programme, who will have walked over the bridge and visited London, live

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in London, come from overseas, and the thought that they can suddenly

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be struck down in such a terrible way I think will weigh heavily on

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all of us. I would like to say London is still open, we would like

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people to come and visit. The Palace of Westminster is a World Heritage

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site and it is important it remains open. I want to ask about your

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colleague who tried to help save the life of the police officer. Tobias

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Ellwood. That is a picture used by many newspapers today. He is an

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extraordinary man. His family has faced personal tragedy. He lost a

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brother in the Balie bombings. I was in Bangladesh when we had an

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earthquake and there he was telling everybody where to go, how to be

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safe. It is typical of the man he would run to that event and try to

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help, based I think on his army background. You say it is important

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people get the message London is open as usual. I have spoken to

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people on their way to work, college, university, this morning,

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and a number said, yes, I am scared, I am anxious. My heart goes out to

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the people who lost loved ones yesterday but you have to go on with

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your life. Precisely. There is reason to be cautious and to be

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vigilant, but, what the terrorists want, the moment they win is the

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moment we cease to be a civilised society, the moment we cease to

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operate as business as usual. One of the most telling things about

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yesterday, after the police shot the terrorist, they attempted to save

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his life. That is what we do in civilised, Western society. We do

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not try to operate in the same way the murderers do, we show a

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different example. People can hear the sirens and see the activity

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behind us 150 metres away from the Palace of Westminster, does it feel

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different to you this morning? Of course. We have a huge media scrum

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here, things are different. We live under the shadow of what happened

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yesterday. But we will simultaneously be vigilant and

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defiant and we will carry on doing our best. Unfortunately, the forces

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of darkness may continue to do their worst. What about security at the

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Palace of Westminster? Is it inevitable it will be reviewed? It

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is always kept under review and I am sure they will book, in time, at

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what happened, and what was breached. As somebody pointed out,

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it did hold because the attacker only got 20 metres inside and then

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was stopped by police and tackled. There may be other areas, ways that

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people responded to this that will be needed to be looked at. It is

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important that Parliament, it is a place of work, not just MPs there,

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there are thousands of members of staff, journalists, members of the

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Public come for beatings. We have school tours, and it is important it

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continues -- members of the public come in for meetings. Things are

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taken off people when they can come in, if there is a sense of danger,

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which can be inconvenient, like an airport, but that balance has two

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continue. You do not want it to be a fortress? Not at all. It worked. The

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tragic circumstances as a result of that, but the security stood up.

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This attack happened almost exactly at the time we had a vote and you

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had 600 members of Parliament travelling across the Parliamentary

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estate at that moment. We may need to consider the gates are constantly

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opening because you have ministerial cars arriving. Those gates were not

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locked because of the frequent use? The majority of the day the gates

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are locked. You have to beep your horn to get access. The time of the

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vote they opened and shut because you have ministerial cars arriving

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will stop whether that was a factor I am not certain but all those

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things will be reviewed. The balance will continue. For viewers watching

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on BBC Two, coverage continues now on BBC One.

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We can say good morning to viewers on BBC One. We are live from

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Westminster. Both have been talking about their desire that the Palace

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of Westminster does not become a fortress after what happened

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yesterday. We will talk to Phil Mackie who is in Birmingham, where

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police have carried out raids overnight we are told. We are

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expecting a minute's silence, and then an opportunity for you and your

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colleagues to pay tribute to those who try to help yesterday, and to

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those who lost their lives. to offer support to our police and

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security services in the continuing investigations. This will be a

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long-running investigation. This is only the start of it. Thanks for

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your time. We will go live to Birmingham and our correspondent.

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Tell us the latest from there. I have just seen three plain clothes

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and one uniformed police officers go through the brown door, the door to

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the flats above this Iranian restaurant, where armed officers

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came at around 11 o'clock last night. People in the other flats say

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they saw them here, certainly until the early hours, when three people

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were taken away. We also know that during the night officers were seen

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taking out boxes of what we presume is evidence in this investigation.

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There are several police vans parked up here and one presumes inside they

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are still carrying out forensically investigations. There you can see

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the Prime Minister leaving Downing Street. Making her way to the House

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of Commons where the assistant political editor Norman Smith is.

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What is the atmosphere like this morning. It is quieter than usual.

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Life is continuing as normal. People are determined to carry on as usual.

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Ordinary staff at Westminster waiting to get back with their work.

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Starting with questions to Liam Fox. At 10:30am we will get the statement

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by the Prime Minister when she will lead tributes to those killed

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yesterday. That will be a sombre moment.

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Democracy faces a challenge from those who reject its values. The

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desire to almost send a visible symbol of democracy that is not

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going to be cowed, that will not speak tailed and is carrying on as

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usual. We will have the speaker's procession going through shortly,

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and there will be the Chaplin, Sergeant at Arms. They have done

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that route week in, week out, it has been the same for sentries and will

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continue today. Members of the public will come here to ask to see

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their MP and raise issues with them. They will still be able to queue up

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to go to the public gallery and hear debates. The only thing they will

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not be able to do is go on the tours. That is a crime scene. That

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is the only thing curtailed. Apart from that, democracy continues as

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usual as it has done for centuries. We will be back with you at 9:30am,

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just ahead of that minute silence. The police have just named one of

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the victims of the attack yesterday. According to a member of staff at

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the college she went to she was a highly

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In fact it is her principal, the head of DLD College London, one of

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the victims named in the last few minutes. This is BBC News, we are

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live from Westminster. Also with us, leader bridge, your reflections,

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having experience what you extends 12 years ago? It has taken me right

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back. I was in the tube that got bombed, and when the news broke

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yesterday and the photo started appearing on the net, I was at my

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office and I said I can't see this. It was just like rewinding back in

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time, and seeing those bodies and injured people, I just started

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thinking about what happened on the Piccadilly tube when the bomb went

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off. But what did stand out, and what really hit me was how London

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came together yesterday. We unfortunately lost a police officer

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yesterday who tragically was killed. For me, 12 years ago, what stood out

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was that one voice saying it is the police, we are coming to get you. It

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was a male police officer. When the bomb went off, it felt like there

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was a noose around my heart and it was being tightened, but when I

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heard that voice, it is police, we are coming to get you, I felt the

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most reassurance and my life. To lose a police officer, those who

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make London and the UK say for us, has released truck me and everyone.

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It is unfortunate we have lost his life and others with him as well,

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but it has been 12 years on, we have faced another attack, we can't let

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this divide us in any way. In fact, let's be the London that we are. We

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stand together. We will not be defeated, because if we are we are

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feeding right into the hands of those who want to divide us. Which

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is an echo of what the Prime Minister Theresa May said. Lee.

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Average, a former national security adviser. This attack hired a 4x4 and

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could have got a knife from anywhere. That is almost impossible

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to protect people against, isn't it? It is very difficult. Last year, Al

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Baghdad Ebert out a call to all their supporters from ISAs, and they

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used the term household terrorism, to use but ever resources you have,

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knives, axes, hammers, your vehicles, they didn't have to look

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at complicated attacks like expose of all requiring firearms. A very

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low technical approach to an attack. In their eyes, a successful outcome

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to yesterday, tragic from our perspective. Could have been a lot

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worse. But very difficult for us to identify that activity, the main

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thing we can do as we saw fantastically well was the police

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response and the emergency services, the medics and members of the

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public. It was a very cohesive response to that tragic event

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yesterday. Which the Accu -- acting they prepared, they knew what they

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would do. They train on a regular basis around the country, not just

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at iconic sites. They are training and rehearsing all the time for

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these sorts of incidents. Is this also train. Yesterday we saw the

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dynamic lockdown kick in at Westminster. This is where normal

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businesses should be doing this on a regular basis, just in case, and it

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is a rare incident that you will be involved, but so they can protect

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you and members of the public. We will talk to you much more in the

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next half an hour or so. You can probably hear the police helicopters

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across and also the media helicopters above. The road ahead of

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me is jam-packed because this main thoroughfare through Westminster is

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obviously shutdown. We are just in front of a police called in because

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that is where a major investigation is going on. On the other side of

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the Palace of Westminster is Annita McVeigh.

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I am just outside. The Forces Chaplain, the Reverend Jonathan

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Osborne in the service of the force. We are

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told that Craig Mackey will make some brief statement. We heard from

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the acting deputy head of the Met police.

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The latest figures I now have are currently only four dead, and 29

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were treated in hospital. We are also still collating numbers of

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walking wounded. Sadly seven of those in hospital are still in

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critical condition. Tragically, the deaths included PC Keith Palmer who

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was protecting Parliament, two members of the public, a woman in

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her mid-40s and a man in his mid-50s. The fourth man of course

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was the terrorist who was shot dead by armed police at the scene.

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Hundreds of detectives have been working through the night, and

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during that time I can confirm we have searched six addresses and made

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seven arrests. The enquiries in Birmingham, London and other parts

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of the country are continuing. It is still our belief, which continues to

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be borne out by our investigation, that this attack at acted alone and

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was inspired by international terrorism. To be explicit at this

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stage we have no specific information about further threats to

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the public. The investigation is ongoing and developing all the time,

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and we continue to focus on his motivation, his preparation and his

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associates. The latest from the police at New Scotland Yard. It is

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coming up to 930 on this Thursday morning, we are live from

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Westminster. It is a cold, bright morning here in the capital. In the

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heart of the city, the morning after the terrorist attack on the seat of

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government, the seat of Parliament, four people were killed, including

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the attacker, the man who took his car onto the pavement of Westminster

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Bridge and mowed down dozens and dozens of pedestrians before making

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his way into the Palace of Westminster, into the the environs,

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the railings behind the gates, where he stabbed a police officer, PC

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Keith Palmer. And after that he was shot by armed police. In a moment or

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two we will go live to the Commons, where we are expecting a minute's

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silence, and then we are expecting politicians to mark what happened

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yesterday, and to pay tribute to those who lost their lives. Former

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national counter terrorist adviser Lee Dodderidge is with me. What

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would you want to hear from your elected representatives this

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morning? I would like them to send out a message, we are London, we are

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united. I survived 7-712 years ago and we did not let that the foetus.

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I will post you there because MPs are filing in to the chamber, the

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House of Commons, as you can see. A sombre mood, clearly. And in the

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next moment or two, they will pause for 60 seconds to remember the three

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people killed by the attacker yesterday. Norman, what is the

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feeling amongst politicians right now? Obviously shock, anger too, but

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the two other emotions I think our, one, that sense of defiance,

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determination that Parliament is not going to be disrupted, it will carry

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on as usual. It always does whenever it is under attack. And of course it

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is a moment for reflection, and really for people to be given an

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opportunity because we will have that statement from the Prime

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Minister in about an hour's time, for MPs to be able to reflect on the

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courage of the police officer who died, but also the bravery of other

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officers, and the work they do, date in, day out, giving this place safe,

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and to reflect too the sense of horror at the terrible, pointless

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slaughter of innocent people, many tourists, just enjoying London on a

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beautiful spring day, crossing Westminster Bridge, taking in the

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iconic views. And just how precious and fragile democracy is, that there

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are those who reject the values of democracy, and the fact come as the

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Prime Minister said yesterday that Westminster was targeted, it

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underlines the fact that Westminster, the way it is seen

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around the world because it was the first sort of modern parliament, and

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it is seen as emblematic of aspirations around freedom, freedom

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of expression, tolerance, all those sort of values, which may be we take

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for granted, but which events like yesterday bring home just help

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precious those values are and how they have to be defended. I expect

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when the Prime Minister delivers her tribute, much of it will be similar

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to watch said last night but I also suspect she will urge people to be

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vigilant. Although we have 30,000 police officers in the capital, they

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cannot be everywhere guarding everyone at all times. Much of the

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responsibility for safeguarding the city falls on individual citizens to

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be alert, to be aware, to respond to concerns, and I suspect that too

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will form part of the message that she gives to MPs when we hear from

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her in about one hour's time. Before then, we should have very soon a

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minute's silence in parliament, but also along Whitehall too, to give

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people, people who can't come in here, a chance to just reflect on

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what happened yesterday, to pause, to take stock, I think we may well

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hear the division that Bell signed here before the minute's silence

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just to alert MPs and staff were ever they are -- the division Bell.

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Many will still be in their offices, to give them an opportunity to let

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them know that the minute's silence is taking place. And of course in

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the police enquiry, that continues, going ahead not just here in London

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but there have been investigations in Birmingham, where that was that

:30:15.:30:29.

raid. Still no firm details about the attacker. The police not

:30:30.:30:36.

confirming his nationality, but again suggesting they believe he was

:30:37.:30:38.

acting on his own. We gather to join in prayer is for

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those who mourn Keith and victims of yesterday's incident. We give thanks

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for Keith, who, as we honour his memory, we put our trust in the

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future. Loving God, we remember all people of faith and no faith. We ask

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you to protect and guard all those who are called to serve at the

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Metropolitan Police Service and other emergency services. Grant them

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the spirit of wisdom and discernment. Make them strong,

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upright and compassionate for the welfare of all who they serve.

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Order, order. Questions to the Secretary of State for international

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trade, Mr Bob Blackman. Question number one, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker,

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as we begin... As we begin our questions today it is appropriate we

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recommit ourselves to the values this parliament represents. Those

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who carry out such wicked and depraved actions. We must ensure it

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is not violence, hatred or division, but decency, forgiveness and

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tolerance that prevails in our country.

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A minute's silence at Scotland Yard and also along Whitehall and here in

:34:37.:34:44.

parliament in Central lobby, where officers and MPs, staff, stood,

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heads bowed, the business coming to a standstill. Marked by the division

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bell, to say the silence will begin and a division bell at the end

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markets ending. I think we can cross now to Scotland Yard. As part of my

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leadership role, I will be going to Cobra later this morning for the

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next meeting for an update in relation to the various elements of

:35:19.:35:22.

this investigation and response. You will be aware that I personally was

:35:23.:35:29.

a witness to yesterday's events. Part of yesterday's events,

:35:30.:35:34.

including part of the tragic attack on PC Palmer. As with all police

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officers, I have a duty to secure my evidence and give statements

:35:41.:35:44.

yesterday evening, which I did before resuming our role, leading

:35:45.:35:50.

the response to this incident. I know I will have the opportunity

:35:51.:35:53.

later to take questions but thank you for being with us this morning

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and thank you for that act of remembrance.

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Craig Mackey from the Scotland Yard, from the Metropolitan Police with

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the latest on the investigation. After what happened yesterday. I

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will introduce you now to three Londoners, Olivia, Neil and Ali.

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What is your feeling? Travelling around London it is a sombre mood.

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People have lost their lives and families affected. There is also a

:36:45.:36:51.

feeling of resilience and determination in the air. I think

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Londoners are fairly, I suppose resilient to these sorts of things

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and life has to go one and we have to get on with life. Just walking

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around London, people are going about their business, which is

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fantastic to see. I really noticed this morning a level of nervousness

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but people determined to go about their daily life and that is

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crucial. My concern is what are the repercussions of this, where do

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people take this story and start the investigations and peoples views,

:37:26.:37:30.

particularly at a time when the country feels divided and what will

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happen in terms of people'sconversations and

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perceptions of others in the community, which is concerning, but

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in terms of daily life it is about getting on with it. To not allow it

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to take us away from what we do in our daily life. Good morning. What

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is your attitude today? As the guests summarised, nervousness.

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There was definitely a sense of people getting on with things but my

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thoughts are also of course with what happened yesterday with the

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people of the bridge and the potential backlash that other

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Londoners might experience, especially in the Muslim community,

:38:19.:38:21.

the more visible members of the community. But life goes on. Who's

:38:22.:38:27.

responsibility do you think it is to draw people together? Primarily the

:38:28.:38:32.

politicians, the Mayor of London. He has done a good job so far. The most

:38:33.:38:38.

important thing they need to do is show unity and leadership and bring

:38:39.:38:41.

everyone together and I think they are doing that so far. I have spoken

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to lots of people, schoolchildren, students, people going to work, and

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you talk about nervousness. Some said, I am scared, but I have to go

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to work. Inevitably there is a nervousness, your senses are

:39:03.:39:06.

heightened that somehow we have to move through that. There is a fear.

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Last night when I heard the news and I was in central London, there was

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fear for my family and friends. How will I get home? Who do I know in

:39:18.:39:22.

that area? But that was a quick thought process and now it was, I

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have to get home. As Londoners, we have become sadly prepared for

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things like this. We are very aware of our surroundings and people

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around us. It has been hammered over the past 12 years. Keeping an eye

:39:40.:39:47.

out for things, be vigilant, and Londoners are prepared. Of course

:39:48.:39:54.

people might be nervous. I place faith in the emergency services and

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intelligence services and I'm sure they are doing the best they can. As

:39:58.:40:03.

people who come into the city we have a responsibility to keep an eye

:40:04.:40:06.

out for things and people will continue to do that. It is a

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collective responsibility, you are right about politicians and leaders

:40:11.:40:16.

but as individuals we have a collective responsibility to watch

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out for each other but not be concerned about reporting things we

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are concerned about. How can you be so aware of people driving badly

:40:25.:40:30.

down a bridge? It is a car, not the traditional terrorism we have been

:40:31.:40:37.

Euston the pass. Although sadly they are getting used to in other

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European cities. We saw it last July in Nice. At the Christmas markets.

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In Germany. It is something you cannot predict or forecasts. There

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is so much you can do. It is a random act. Talking about

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responsibility and politicians. I am a teacher and a big part of what we

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do as teachers is trying to create a culture of a acceptance, awareness,

:41:18.:41:22.

diversity, multicultural aspects, and that is important. I'm sure

:41:23.:41:27.

children this morning have woken up whose families work in London are

:41:28.:41:33.

scared. I spoke to boys between 13 and 15, on their phones, obviously,

:41:34.:41:39.

and I said, what is your attitude this morning? They said, we are a

:41:40.:41:45.

bit scared and our mums and dads have said be aware. But they are

:41:46.:41:48.

walking to school as they do every day. It is a testimony to Londoners

:41:49.:41:56.

that all the terror attacks we have experience through the IRA days,

:41:57.:42:01.

onwards, people go about their daily lives. There is a remarkable level

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of resilience. We spoke about Londoners and that is testament to

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them and it is the best thing anybody can do, having the fear and

:42:13.:42:15.

sense of proportion and continuing with daily life. And for those

:42:16.:42:24.

tragically affected. They will not be feeling resilient today. Fear was

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one of those things but last night, watching the news, I was close to

:42:30.:42:33.

tears listening to stories about the policeman, who is a father. And all

:42:34.:42:39.

the others. We have heard one of the women killed yesterday is a member

:42:40.:42:44.

of staff at a college in London and the principal said she was a loved

:42:45.:42:50.

colleague. Absolutely. And the devastation. They will need support

:42:51.:42:57.

at some point. They have family and friends, but as a society we have a

:42:58.:43:01.

responsibility to reach out to people when they have been through

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such tragic circumstances. Did the Prime Minister get it right

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when she talked about in a defiant way, the will have said, that this

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evil will not so divisions in our society? It was a very powerful

:43:18.:43:27.

speech, but to claim it won't divide us, it is a big claim. I think there

:43:28.:43:32.

is a level of division that we have to face in this country anyway, and

:43:33.:43:38.

it is easy to make those statements, but what you practically do? It is

:43:39.:43:42.

one thing to say that outside Downing Street but what are the

:43:43.:43:46.

practical actions, how are we bridging those divisions and gaps

:43:47.:43:49.

between different communities and individuals? But aside from the

:43:50.:43:55.

practical realities besides this challenge, as a symbol of the leader

:43:56.:43:58.

of the United Kingdom she was absolutely right and she had to make

:43:59.:44:03.

that statement as the symbol of Britain. Of course. She was right to

:44:04.:44:07.

say that but it is to a certain extent rhetoric and it is

:44:08.:44:12.

translating that into actionable outcomes. No one should

:44:13.:44:22.

underestimate how difficult that task is. Thank you very much. I

:44:23.:44:29.

appreciate your time. We are live at Westminster and the terror attack

:44:30.:44:35.

here yesterday began at around 20 to three yesterday afternoon with a car

:44:36.:44:40.

travelling at high speed North across the bridge towards

:44:41.:44:44.

Parliament. This is how the story unfolded, and a warning that you

:44:45.:44:45.

might find some scenes upsetting. This appalling incident began when a

:44:46.:44:56.

single attacker drove his vehicle into pedestrians walking across

:44:57.:44:57.

Westminster Bridge. We have details of a potentially

:44:58.:45:10.

serious incident coming from various news agencies of two people shot

:45:11.:45:15.

outside the Westminster Parliament. The building is apparently in

:45:16.:45:21.

lockdown. You like, get undercover now! Police are currently evacuating

:45:22.:45:28.

the street outside Parliament, amidst reports someone has been

:45:29.:45:29.

shot. There is blood everywhere. People

:45:30.:45:41.

have been shot or stabbed all over the place. I am now going to suspend

:45:42.:45:51.

the sitting of the house, this house is now suspended but please wait

:45:52.:45:56.

here. We heard what we thought were gunshots, turned around and we saw

:45:57.:46:01.

the car had ploughed into a lady, I think it was a lady, I'm not 100%

:46:02.:46:05.

sure, but underneath the wheel, and you could hear screams. On the other

:46:06.:46:10.

side of the red there was a body and when I looked further up there was

:46:11.:46:15.

another body. When I looked over the side of the bridge there appeared to

:46:16.:46:20.

be a body in the water as well. Bodies of military must have been

:46:21.:46:24.

about ten or 12 bodies in different places along the bridge. It seems a

:46:25.:46:32.

police officer has been stabbed. This man had something in his hand,

:46:33.:46:36.

it looked like a stick of some sort. We could see the man in Black moving

:46:37.:46:42.

his arm in a way that suggested he was either starving or striking the

:46:43.:46:48.

yellow jacketed policeman. We do not yet know the full impact of this

:46:49.:46:53.

terrible incident, but I know that the whole country will be thinking

:46:54.:46:56.

and praying for those who are affected, as I am. We have declared

:46:57.:47:01.

this as a terrorist incident, and the counterterrorism command are

:47:02.:47:04.

carrying out a full-scale investigation into the events today.

:47:05.:47:08.

Sadly I can confirm that now four people have died. One of those who

:47:09.:47:12.

died today was a police officer, PC Keith Palmer, a member of our

:47:13.:47:16.

Parliamentary and diplomatic protection command. Aged 48, Keith

:47:17.:47:23.

had 15 years service and was a husband and father. Let me make it

:47:24.:47:26.

clear today, as I have had cause to do before, any attempt to defeat

:47:27.:47:33.

those values through violence and terror is doomed to failure. We will

:47:34.:47:40.

all move forward together. Never giving in to terror, and never

:47:41.:47:44.

allowing the voices of hate and evil to drive us apart.

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Theresa May V Prime Minister Maliki last night, this morning at

:47:53.:47:58.

Westminster is it is a cruel, blow each morning, you can hear the

:47:59.:48:00.

sounds of the police helicopters above us. We are at the House of

:48:01.:48:10.

Lords end of Westminster, this is normally a very busy thoroughfare,

:48:11.:48:12.

completely closed off as you would expect. Let me introduce you to Ben

:48:13.:48:17.

Wallace, the security minister, and Kevin Scocco from politics home, who

:48:18.:48:20.

saw the events unfold yesterday within the parameters of

:48:21.:48:28.

Westminster. Ben Wallace, as security minister, how safe is

:48:29.:48:33.

London? London is safe, we have some of the best security services of the

:48:34.:48:38.

world, some of the best police. They have cancelled leave, there is more

:48:39.:48:42.

police on the streets, reassurance patrols, and we are following up any

:48:43.:48:45.

leads we have found from this attack. We are determined to make

:48:46.:48:49.

sure that London goes back to work. Parliament is taking part of that

:48:50.:48:55.

lead, we are back in business, and I think what Londoners who have been

:48:56.:48:58.

here before over many decades and I'm afraid we'll probably be here

:48:59.:49:02.

again at some stage, that we are getting on with business. We should

:49:03.:49:06.

reassure the public that we really have some of the best people well

:49:07.:49:09.

invested over the decades to make sure we have the tools they need to

:49:10.:49:13.

follow up and see off any other danger. The police say they believe

:49:14.:49:18.

at this stage that this man was acting alone, that he was inspired,

:49:19.:49:25.

they say, by international Islamist ideology, but he was acting alone.

:49:26.:49:29.

Yes, that is the evident point at the moment, that it was a single

:49:30.:49:37.

person in that car who then carried out the attack on poor old PC Keith

:49:38.:49:42.

Palmer, and that is why the incident is effectively over here, but of

:49:43.:49:45.

course no one does anything without a trace, no one does things entirely

:49:46.:49:49.

on their own. If he was radicalised committee had support elsewhere, and

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that is what the police will following up. Kevin, hello to you,

:49:53.:50:00.

you watched this unfold. What is it like to see this from your office

:50:01.:50:05.

window? It is a very strange experience, you can't really take it

:50:06.:50:10.

in. I saw that the man forced his way through a security gate, and

:50:11.:50:16.

attack the police officer. And at that point it didn't make any sense.

:50:17.:50:21.

We had heard a crash just before it, but thought they had maybe been a

:50:22.:50:25.

smash on Westminster Bridge Road or something like that. But I saw him

:50:26.:50:30.

come through, almost like it was in slow motion. He wrestled the police

:50:31.:50:36.

officer the ground and then another police officer approached he got up

:50:37.:50:39.

and produced a knife, or what looked like a knife anyway, his

:50:40.:50:43.

outstretched arm towards the second police officer. Then my view was

:50:44.:50:46.

obscured and then if you seconds later I heard gunfire. That was the

:50:47.:50:51.

moment it became obvious that it was some kind of terror attack. Just

:50:52.:50:55.

trying to take it on board was very strange. So you work right there in

:50:56.:51:00.

the heart of what happened, what is your attitude about that today? I

:51:01.:51:05.

think it is great that Parliament is back. We just had a minute was like

:51:06.:51:09.

silence of MPs, you send out a strong message that Britain and

:51:10.:51:15.

London won't be cowed by events like yesterday. We can go back to

:51:16.:51:19.

business as normal. We have seen all around people in London walking to

:51:20.:51:22.

work as if nothing happened, which is very good to see and sends out a

:51:23.:51:28.

strong message. Hello Ann McLauchlan, SNP MP. What is your

:51:29.:51:34.

attitude this morning? I just feel very sad for the people who have

:51:35.:51:39.

died, and the people who have what is described as catastrophic

:51:40.:51:42.

injuries. Who knows how their lives will change? The families of Keith

:51:43.:51:47.

Palmer and others who died, just utter sadness. How do you view this

:51:48.:51:55.

attack, is it about striking at democracy, harming innocent people

:51:56.:52:02.

going about their business at a bridge? It is a murderer, murdering

:52:03.:52:07.

people for no good reason. None of those people are known to the guy, I

:52:08.:52:10.

assume. They did nothing to him and I don't think we should allow

:52:11.:52:13.

anything else to get in the way of the fact that this person has

:52:14.:52:19.

murdered these people. The attacker was able to get through carriage

:52:20.:52:23.

gate, which one MP described as a weak spot, in terms of security. It

:52:24.:52:31.

is a gate in frequent use, it isn't locked, there is a bolt that could

:52:32.:52:34.

go straight across it. That is going to have to change, isn't it? I don't

:52:35.:52:41.

think they will on the hoof look at the overall protective security of

:52:42.:52:43.

Parliament but we shouldn't forget that this individual did not get

:52:44.:52:48.

into Parliament. He was stopped with little -- lethal force, PC Keith

:52:49.:52:54.

Palmer made sure that he gave his life and protected me and those who

:52:55.:52:59.

work in Parliament. We are a Parliament of the people, we are

:53:00.:53:04.

open for the people. My constituents, trade unions, people

:53:05.:53:06.

come and see us every day and that is what we are there to do.

:53:07.:53:10.

Entrances are always vulnerable in every place, that is why we have

:53:11.:53:14.

armed police there, that is why we have police on the gate. But of

:53:15.:53:20.

course all these things are reviewed. The meeting I had before

:53:21.:53:23.

this incident was with the head of security in Parliament about what we

:53:24.:53:31.

can do to keep MPs and their staff say. All of that is always under

:53:32.:53:36.

constant review. After this, we should give the space for the

:53:37.:53:41.

professionals to do their job, to make sure we pursue any other

:53:42.:53:44.

suspects or certainly make sure it is safer throughout the United

:53:45.:53:47.

Kingdom, and then in the cold light of day, further on, of course these

:53:48.:53:52.

things will continue to be reviewed. But I think the best thing for now

:53:53.:53:56.

is to remember that this assailant did not get into the House of

:53:57.:54:00.

Commons, did not get more than a few metres into the front gate. PC Keith

:54:01.:54:06.

Palmer did his duty, and more so saved many other lives by what he

:54:07.:54:09.

did, and I think that is the key point about it. We are expecting the

:54:10.:54:15.

Prime Minister to make a statement to the Commons and we will ring that

:54:16.:54:20.

to our viewers live. What are we expecting from Mrs May this morning?

:54:21.:54:26.

The Prime Minister's speech gave last night I thought was incredibly

:54:27.:54:31.

moving but powerful. Reiterating what British values are all about,

:54:32.:54:34.

reiterating that people who try to twist religion, or try to make an

:54:35.:54:40.

attack on our values and the people in Parliament, will always fail. And

:54:41.:54:43.

that we are supported, and we are very lucky to be supported in this

:54:44.:54:48.

country by police and intelligence services who are some of the best of

:54:49.:54:51.

the world, and many governments have invested in their capability. I

:54:52.:54:56.

would just reassure your viewers, the counterterrorism strategy is

:54:57.:54:58.

about not just catching people, it is about preventing people being

:54:59.:55:03.

radicalised, and about delivering all over the United Kingdom, in

:55:04.:55:07.

Scotland, Lancashire, where I represent, and in the capital and in

:55:08.:55:10.

the very iconic buildings we see here. It is about making sure people

:55:11.:55:14.

understand that the best thing we can do is to go back to work and be

:55:15.:55:18.

confident that they have underneath them the net of some of the most

:55:19.:55:22.

professional people in the world in this area of counterterrorism. Thank

:55:23.:55:26.

you very much, Ben Wallace, Devon Schofield and Ann McLauchlan, SNP

:55:27.:55:33.

MP. As you heard Mr Wallace say, the best thing that people can do is go

:55:34.:55:37.

back to work. We will bring you the very latest news at ten o'clock this

:55:38.:55:42.

morning live from Westminster. As you can hear, police helicopters

:55:43.:55:47.

overhead, and the media helicopters overhead going about their business.

:55:48.:55:51.

One of the women who died in the attack has been named as Aysha

:55:52.:55:57.

Frade, who worked at a sixth form college close to Westminster Bridge.

:55:58.:56:05.

The principle of DLD College said Aysha Frade was highly regarded and

:56:06.:56:09.

loved and would be deeply missed. We can get the latest from New Scotland

:56:10.:56:12.

Yard where Annita McVeigh is this morning.

:56:13.:56:15.

Yes, the police are the public and the public the Pliskova those were

:56:16.:56:23.

the words a few minutes ago of Craig Mackey, Acting Commissioner of the

:56:24.:56:27.

Metropolitan and, as he stood alongside colleagues in front of the

:56:28.:56:33.

eternal flame, the flame that commemorates those who have lost

:56:34.:56:36.

their lives in the service of the Metropolitan Police, and of course

:56:37.:56:41.

uppermost in their thoughts, the loss of their colleague, PC Keith

:56:42.:56:44.

Palmer, yesterday in the Westminster attack. Of course 24 hours a day,

:56:45.:56:52.

every day of the year, the men and women of the Met collect -- protect

:56:53.:56:57.

people in London. That protection continues today amidst the huge

:56:58.:57:02.

investigation of yesterday's attack and the loss of their colleague, one

:57:03.:57:08.

of their own, in the line of duty. Craig Mackey, Acting Commissioner,

:57:09.:57:11.

went on to say that investigation continues. It is also about

:57:12.:57:16.

reassurance for the public and Hi-Vis ability of officers on the

:57:17.:57:21.

streets, many more officers on duty. He said although the police practice

:57:22.:57:27.

for all sorts of scenarios in response to different possible

:57:28.:57:29.

terrorist attacks, nothing he said, could prepare them as officers or

:57:30.:57:37.

the public for the reality of yesterday's attack and of course the

:57:38.:57:42.

loss of one of their own. That is the latest from New Scotland Yard.

:57:43.:57:48.

We can hear the chimes of Big Ben live from Westminster where an

:57:49.:58:01.

attack by a man thought to be inspired by so-called Islamic State

:58:02.:58:03.

brought chaos and terror to the heart of London yesterday.

:58:04.:58:09.

The man killed three people and left 29 others needing hospital treatment

:58:10.:58:15.

before being shot dead outside the Houses of Parliament.

:58:16.:58:17.

Anti-terror police have not released the attacker's name,

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but confirm they've made seven arrests in raids around the UK.

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Hundreds of detectives have been working through the night,

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and during that time I can confirm we have searched six addresses

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London and other parts of the country are continuing.

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In the past hour, the second victim is named as mother Aysha Frade.

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She was reportedly on her way to pick up her children from school.

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has been named as the police officer who was killed.

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MPs held a minute's silence to remember the victims.

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The Government's emergency Cobra committee will meet later.

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The Prime Minister has left Downing Street

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and will address the House of Commons in around half an hour.

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Last night, she described the attack as "sick and depraved."

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We will all move forward together, never giving in to terror.

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And never allowing the voices of hate and evil to drive us apart.

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Inside Parliament, staff, MPs and peers return to work as normal in a

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calculated act of defiance, with tributes to be lead shortly by the

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Prime Minister for those murdered in yesterday's slaughter.

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Police have made their first arrests in connection with the attack in

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Westminster in which four people were killed, including the attacker.

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Raids were carried out in Birmingham. Seven people have been

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arrested. In the past half an hour,

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silences and prayers were held in Parliament

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and at New Scotland Yard to reflect Two people died when the attacker

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drove a car at pedestrians One of the victims has been named

:00:34.:00:40.

this morning as Aysha Frade. She's been described by her college

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principal PC Keith Palmer was stabbed to death

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as he tried to stop the attacker The suspect was then shot dead

:00:49.:00:57.

by plain-clothes police officers. 29 people are being treated

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in hospital, seven of them The moment of the attack

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on Westminster Bridge. On the right-hand side we see a car

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moving at speed along the pavement in front of a slow-moving

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line of traffic. A figure, we now know it is a woman,

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falls into the water. And then panic as members

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of the public realise A photograph shows

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the immediate aftermath. An armed police officer stands

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poised over the attacker. Under his foot is a knife

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and another knife is The police officer stabbed to death

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was Keith Palmer, 48, He was a member of the Parliamentary

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and Diplomatic Police Command. A major terror investigation

:01:56.:02:03.

is under way in the capital Overnight there was a raid

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on a flat in East Birmingham, the area closed off for more

:02:07.:02:09.

than two hours. Hundreds of detectives have worked

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through the night and we have searched six addresses

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and made seven arrests. The inquiries in Birmingham,

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London and other parts It is our belief that this attacker

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acted alone and was inspired They included mother of two Aysha

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Frade, a Spanish teacher who worked at a college a few hundred metres

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away. At least 29 others were wounded,

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seven are in critical condition. The Prime Minister said parliament

:02:49.:02:52.

would meet as normal today. She urged the people of London

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and its visitors to do the same. And we will all move

:02:57.:03:00.

forward together. And never allowing the voices

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of hate and evil to drive us apart. Police have not named

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the attacker, but they believe They are treating it as a case

:03:14.:03:15.

of Islamist-related terrorism. My message to those who want to harm

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us and destroy our way of life is you will not succeed,

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you will not divide us, Overnight a show of solidarity

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from the French capital, Paris, a city that has also suffered

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from the scourge of terrorism. The lights of the Eiffel Tower

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were switched off. The Prime Minister called

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the incident sick and depraved, but the official terror alert level

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has not been raised. The priority for the police

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now will be to find out You can hear sirens going off and

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that is the sound that will accompany London life for the rest

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of today and the next few days possibly. It is really busy. The

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road behind me that leads to the Palace of Westminster obviously that

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is cordoned off and completely empty and it is normally a main

:04:25.:04:28.

thoroughfare. A high the camera, the roads are jam-packed, because

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commuters, tourists and the like are trying to find their way around

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London roads because so many in the heart of the city are shut. We will

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now speak to a former counterterrorism detective who was

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part of the 7/7 investigation. Also Chris Carley, and a doctor from the

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counter extremism group Quilliam. I want to talk about PC Keith Palmer.

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A 48-year-old officer with over a decade of service, a husband and

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dad, an unarmed officer who tried to stop the attacker. How do you pay

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tribute? He paid the ultimate sacrifice. We should be thankful

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there are people like him who stand in the way of a man who wanted to

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hurt many people. It is a tragic event and the ultimate sacrifice

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that hopefully all police officers hope they will never have too pay

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but he did his duty and it is a great tragedy. What is the priority

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for officers in terms of the investigation? The biggest thing to

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find out is to identify the man who drove the car on the bridge, where

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the car came from. They believe they know who he is and they believe he

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was acting alone. The next thing is to find out where he lives and

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searches home and gain as much intelligence from thereabout who he

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has been in contact with. He is dead, there will be no criminal

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prosecution of him, the police will look at his wider circle and who he

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has been associating with and see if they can find evidence against

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those. Do you question how the attacker could have got into Palace

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Yard? This is like a pedestrianised area and a car park for members of

:06:36.:06:41.

Parliament. Surrounded by metal fencing, but it appears he got

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through an unlocked gate, manned by two unarmed officers and unlocked

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because it is in frequent use, I am told. It is one of these bizarre

:06:52.:06:57.

things that happens. The individual has moved rapidly and people would

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have been focused on what was going on on the bridge and suddenly you

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have an individual moving at speed through a gate that is open. It

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happens. Hard and fast and quickly, that is how these events occur. I

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can bring in the doctor from counter extremism group Quilliam. How does

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somebody become radicalised? The core message that terrorist groups

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promote worldwide is that Muslims are separate and Muslims need their

:07:33.:07:36.

own state and to live under their own law and oh no allegiance for a

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garden -- Raiola no allegiance to for example of British Governor --

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payola no allegiance. That is a basic message used to

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promote this kind of radicalisation. The message from Al-Qaeda and IS in

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recent months has been to use vehicles to cause carnage? We saw

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that in Nice and Berlin and we must take that threat seriously. When

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they say it they mean it, to use cars and trucks as murderous

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weapons. It is important to come together. We are united as citizens

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of Britain and society is built on trust, including that vehicles do

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not become weapons of murder. Society is based on mutual trust and

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we must work harder on our sense of shared values and what brings us

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together as a society and nation. If people use vehicles as lethal

:08:48.:08:51.

weapons, how do you protect the public? It is almost impossible.

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People walking across the bridge, tourists, people going about their

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business and suddenly a car drives down the pavement. Trying to stop it

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and mitigate against it is almost impossible. Westminster Bridge is

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unusual. We have a lot of street furniture. Lamp posts, rubbish bins,

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benches. Westminster Bridge is unusual, there is nothing on it and

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if you have a long run of nothing and can get a vehicle on a pavement

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with hundreds of people on the pavement looking at Big Ben, if you

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get a vehicle up there there is a free run. It is a weakness we need

:09:36.:09:42.

to identify. In mainland Europe, it is low-grade attacks with knives,

:09:43.:09:46.

blunt weapons, cars and lorries and that is where we need to invest our

:09:47.:09:54.

money. As a former counterterrorism officer, for you, what security

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flaws have been exposed as a result of the attack? I would not say it

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has exposed any flaws. It is interesting to see where the vehicle

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hit the outer perimeter walls. Where the hostile mitigation stops. When

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we look at security, it should be based on how the response will kick

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in after. People say the gate was open, but it is meant to be open for

:10:22.:10:26.

people to walk inside but the proof of the response was when they dealt

:10:27.:10:30.

with the attacker, albeit he was inside. There are no flaws. We can

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look back in hindsight. This morning additional measures were taken down

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the road behind us. It will be interesting to see where the

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barriers will be positioned through the day. The acting Deputy

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Commissioner said there will be more armed police on the streets.

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Something people will have to to get used to for the short-term. We need

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to give support to officers. There has been a lot of bad press about

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them walking out and buying sandwiches in Tesco but these people

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are doing an important job and we need full support behind them.

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Thanks. We can go to Birmingham now. Police say they have made several

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arrests. Our correspondent is there. I am in front of the flats where the

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arrests happened last night. The brown door leads upstairs to two

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flats above a Persian restaurant. It happened around 11pm in the busy

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Hagley Road. They closed it. People in the restaurants and the shops and

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the pub at that time were told to stay put. They were held on lockdown

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until about 1am when they were let go. I have spoken to someone living

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in the neighbouring flat who took pictures from his window. Around

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11pm, two or three unmarked vehicles pulled in and armed officers got out

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and went in through that door. Later witnesses said they saw three people

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take it away. We have not had it confirmed they were arrested but we

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are assuming that three people were part of the investigations to which

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the Met police referred to today. Several hours later, police officers

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brought out sealed boxes of evidence from the flat. There is still police

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activity this morning with several vehicles parked along the street.

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About an hour ago, a uniformed officer and three plainclothes

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officers went back into the flats and there is still clearly forensics

:12:47.:12:49.

work going on. There is another line of enquiry in the West Midlands over

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towards Solihull, where it is believed there is a link to a rental

:12:59.:13:02.

car company and the car involved in the attack on Westminster Bridge

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yesterday. We do not have any of the names of people taken out of that

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flat. Although we are in Edgbaston, we are on the north side of Hagley

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Road, on the edge of Ladywood will stop Edgbaston one of the most

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expensive places to live in the city, Ladywood certainly one of the

:13:24.:13:26.

poorest districts in the whole country. This is an area where you

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get people from different countries living, a transient area with people

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coming and going all the time. Neighbours I spoke to were not

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necessarily sure of who lived in the flat that was the scene of

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investigations last night, and it continues to be so today. Thank you.

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Phil Mackie reporting live from Birmingham. BBC News live from

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Westminster. Yesterday an attack paralysed the heart of government,

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as MPs and hundreds of government officials were held in lockdown for

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hours in the House of Commons, and yet this morning the House of

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Commons sits as normal, the usual time at 930. Let me introduce you to

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two Labour MPs, Barbara Keeley and Clive Lewis, and what do you think

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of that, the fact it was business as usual at 9:30am today? It was very

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good. It was very moving. It sends the right message that London

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carries on and business carries on as usual. I would agree. It does

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send a clear message. Clearly there is a tenseness, you can see the

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police helicopters and the police presence. There was quiet and empty

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on the trends this morning but people are going about their

:15:10.:15:12.

business. This reflects in what is happening.

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A mum reportedly going to pick up her kids from school. She's a normal

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woman trying to get on with her life. Life.. Their parents must have

:15:38.:15:42.

been really worried about them. They were fantastic in spirit. Sipping,

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wavings to us. It was great to have them there. It is very important

:15:46.:15:49.

everything carries on as usual. People still visit and London is

:15:50.:15:54.

open. But I think what we have to reflect on is because of the police,

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they are our human shield and they protect us so we can do this work as

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MPs that we are able to carry on. It is very touching. I really feel for

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these guys this morning who've lost one of their own and everybody in

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the Westminster village feels that. It is very important we pay tribute,

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the most important people today are the families of those victims. PC

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Keith Palmer and his family. Important messages have come from

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people like Brendan Brendan Cox who lost Jo last year. They've

:16:31.:16:34.

experienced the biggest loss. You're on your way to the House of Commons

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now. We're expecting the Prime Minister to give a statement in

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about ten minutes' or so time. You'll be walking back up there into

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a street which is cordoned off. A street which is quiet compared to a

:16:47.:16:50.

normal Thursday morning. What would you like to hear from the Prime

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Minister this morning? She will pay respects to those who've died. We

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will pay our respects in a minute's silence. It is time to pause for

:17:02.:17:06.

reflection on the work the security service do to protect us every day.

:17:07.:17:11.

They run towards shots. We run away from them, if anything. Every day

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we're in there, we speak to these people, talk to them, say good

:17:16.:17:18.

morning to them. I think, at the back of your mind, you always know

:17:19.:17:22.

that something like this can happen. At the back of your mind sub

:17:23.:17:27.

consciously. Today, a day we half expected has occurred. I want to

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hear from the Prime Minister a pause. I don't want to see a knee

:17:33.:17:36.

jerk reaction. Do you mean in terms of security? I think so. Changing

:17:37.:17:40.

the way we live our lives? Completely. I don't think we'd hear

:17:41.:17:46.

that today. It will be a reflection, on update on the security situation,

:17:47.:17:50.

the investigation on the latest we know that she can explain. I think

:17:51.:17:55.

she'll read the public mood which is one of reflection and thinking about

:17:56.:17:59.

those who've lost their lives and where we go from here in a positive

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and practical way. How important is to you both as politicians that the

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House of Commons stays relatively open? Clearly, there's airport-style

:18:09.:18:12.

security, concrete bollards outside. All those things you'd expect. But

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it's full of members of the public in there? That's right. The most

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important thing is we keep access. We all though that was important

:18:22.:18:25.

after we lost Jo last year. We've carried on with extra security.

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Seeing our constituents, doing our campaigning work. It is important

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Parliament reflects the way wee behave in our constituencies. We did

:18:37.:18:41.

have that cordon of police. Amazing emergency services people. People

:18:42.:18:46.

ran over from St Thomas' Hospital. We have remarkable capacity to cope.

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Westminster are a village. We'll pull together. There is a really

:18:50.:18:53.

important message in the fact we're back there this morning working. It

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is a balancing act. When people from my constituency come down to visit,

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I say, this is your place. It is a people's palace. We work here but

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you own it. That mustn't change. We've already seen changing over the

:19:08.:19:13.

years from very little security. We now see bollards, gates, armed

:19:14.:19:16.

police which are there permanently now. We've seen chose changing. If

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there needs for a few changes, that's acceptable. But the principle

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of people being able to come in as the public and enjoy what is their

:19:28.:19:31.

palace is right and proper. That needs to happen. Thank you very

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much. I better let you go. Two Labour MPs on their way to the House

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of Commons to hear Theresa May before she gives her statement to

:19:46.:19:51.

the Commons and tries to sum up the mood of a nation, as well as paying

:19:52.:19:57.

tribute to those who lost their lives, including 48-year-old PC

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Keith Palmer who we know was a husband, a dad, who'd served in the

:20:04.:20:08.

Metropolitan Police for over ten years. We'll take you live to the

:20:09.:20:12.

House of Commons, of course, at 10.30 as you'd expect ahead of that

:20:13.:20:15.

statement from Theresa May. We can talk now to the former Mayor of

:20:16.:20:23.

London, Ken Livingstone. Who was the mayor during the 7/7 attacks. What's

:20:24.:20:28.

your attitude this morning? The important thing is Londoners

:20:29.:20:31.

shouldn't Czech the way we live our lives or turn against each other.

:20:32.:20:39.

That's what the terrorists want. More security, more surveillance,

:20:40.:20:44.

all that can go over the top. The simple fact is we stop almost every

:20:45.:20:51.

terrorist attack. Only about one every three or four years gets

:20:52.:20:54.

through. We've very good Sir veilance. A terrorist like this,

:20:55.:21:00.

most probably an individual acting on their own, it is very difficult

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to get hold of them. Most of the terror attacks have been that. An

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individual. Not someone taking direct orders from Isis in

:21:10.:21:13.

Afghanistan or something. We heard from Mark Rowley, Acting Deputy

:21:14.:21:18.

Commissioner for the Metropolitan Police, since the killing of Lee

:21:19.:21:23.

Rigby outside his barracks in May 2013, the Metropolitan Police

:21:24.:21:28.

counter-terrorism officers have thwart 13 terrorists attacks.

:21:29.:21:32.

Potential terrorist attacks. It's important to keep perspective, isn't

:21:33.:21:38.

it? Absolutely. It was very much like that in the immediate aftermath

:21:39.:21:43.

of the terrorist attacks in 2005. The police were still able to stop

:21:44.:21:49.

two or three attempts a year. It isn't justice lambic

:21:50.:21:52.

fundamentalists. We found extreme far right groups that were

:21:53.:21:55.

stockpiling weapons and things like that. We've been able to stop them

:21:56.:22:00.

as well. I'm going to bring in Jackaway Puttnam. Come round here.

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Come in. Jackie is a survivor of the London bombings in July 2005.

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Goodness, how were you feeling yesterday? Terrible. I was working

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not too far from here. Saw it on the news. And it felt as if it was

:22:22.:22:28.

happening again. What I was thinking was what I'm sure lots of us were

:22:29.:22:33.

thinking, which was oh, no, not again. It surprised me because we're

:22:34.:22:43.

11 years on. You think you're doing fine, everything's wonderful, you've

:22:44.:22:46.

got it all under control. Then it takes the legs out from under you

:22:47.:22:51.

again. I know that you're on a WhatsApp group with other survivors

:22:52.:22:57.

from 7/7. I'm guessing there were messages going around amongst you?

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Absolutely. Everyone wanted to check where everyone was. Is everyone OK.

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People were posting in, yes, I'm feeling like this. The warmth of it

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was tremendous. It made such a difference to know there were people

:23:15.:23:18.

who were... It was like, just the comfort of it. Support group. It was

:23:19.:23:24.

huge. I'm hearing police are now saying they have made eight arrests.

:23:25.:23:29.

We were reporting earlier it was seven. We're told from the

:23:30.:23:34.

Metropolitan Police they have made eight arrests in connection with

:23:35.:23:37.

what happened at Westminster yesterday. Jackie, you're back here

:23:38.:23:42.

today. You work not far from here. You're here. That's an amazing

:23:43.:23:47.

thing? Well, it's a fight I fight every day. Really? Some days are

:23:48.:23:54.

worse than others. Most day are fine. The first battle I had to

:23:55.:24:00.

fight was get back on the Underground. I needed to take

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control back. Decisions I wanted to make about my life were my decisions

:24:04.:24:08.

to make not anyone else's. So I had to get that back. It's taken a very

:24:09.:24:14.

long time. You do it to begin with minute by minute. Those minutes get

:24:15.:24:21.

longer. There is help. There is tremendous amount of help out there.

:24:22.:24:26.

Can I mention Tim, Harry Jonathan bawl foundation for peace who

:24:27.:24:32.

specialise in - they were formed after the Warrington bombings by

:24:33.:24:38.

Colin and Wendy Parry. They support people who've suffered from

:24:39.:24:40.

terrorism and support the families. There is support out there for

:24:41.:24:46.

people who suffered yesterday. In terms of your psychological recovery

:24:47.:24:51.

from that day back in 2005 to now, where would you say, Jackie, if you

:24:52.:24:57.

don't mind me asking, you are at? I'm functioning. There are days when

:24:58.:25:03.

obviously there's a lot of time when you don't think about it. Times like

:25:04.:25:08.

yesterday, when it suddenly seems as if it wasn't ten years ago, it's

:25:09.:25:14.

still going on. It's, time telescopes for you in those moments.

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I have to say, when the survivors meet and get together we don't talk

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about it unless somebody's having a bad time. It's not a hug-fest have

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you see what I mean. We meet for drinks, males, go to weddings.

:25:36.:25:39.

Babies have been born. It's wonderful. They're my second family.

:25:40.:25:44.

They're my extended family. It's about the future. It's not about

:25:45.:25:50.

what happened. But it's a long road. A long road to travel. There are

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people who suffer terribly yesterday. My heart goes out to

:25:54.:25:59.

them. The families. There is support there. Post-traumatic stress cannot

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necessarily kick in straightaway. You may think you're fine. Sometimes

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it can take years. But then you do get the effects and it is, there is

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help out there. You don't have to live with it the way soldiers used

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to in the past. There's help and it can be, my therapist says it can be

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fixed. We're competingness against the helicopter above us. What

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happened here will be reported aren't the world. The iconic Big

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Ben, the palace of Westminster, Westminster Bridge, those images

:26:43.:26:45.

have gone around the world, of course. London is safe. That is the

:26:46.:26:51.

message that has to be got out there? It axe luteally is. My

:26:52.:26:56.

parents went through the Second World War. The Nazis were bombing

:26:57.:26:59.

London, killing hundreds of people every night. It didn't break our

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will. We went on to defeat them. No amount of attacks here can change

:27:06.:27:08.

the way we are or, in the end, defeat us. What are you expecting to

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hear? What do you want to hear from the Prime Minister when she makes

:27:14.:27:17.

her statement in the Commons? The most important thing is to look at

:27:18.:27:22.

the success in the aftermath of the 7 selfen bombings. Not a single

:27:23.:27:26.

Muslim was attacked. No police record of a single incident. What

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the Muslims who did that attack wanted, was us to attack Muslims,

:27:34.:27:38.

divide us. There was no recorded incidence. No-one daubed a mosque or

:27:39.:27:41.

anything. That's the important thing. We stand together. People who

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come to our country come because of our values, freedom and democracy.

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Not to change it. We're seeing live pictures of the House of Commons

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now. We are expecting to hear from the Prime Minister, Theresa May,

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very shortly. As soon as she begins speaking, of course, you will be

:27:58.:27:59.

able to hear what she says live. Jackie, thanks for talking to us and

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Ken Livingstone, former Mayor of London, the mayor of this capital

:28:14.:28:18.

city during the July the 7th bombings in 2005. We expect the

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Prime Minister to speak in the next minute. Norman Smith, from what

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Theresa May said last night, she is in defiant made? She is and it is

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striking that the Commons chamber is more full than often on Thursday

:28:38.:28:42.

mornings when it can be relatively quiet and that reflects the fact

:28:43.:28:46.

many MPs deliberately want to be seen to be there as there being

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reports of MPs cancelling trips away to make sure they can be their for

:28:54.:28:56.

the statement from Theresa May and just to show Parliament continues

:28:57.:29:03.

despite yesterday's outrage. The only difference was the minute's

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silence, beginning with the division bell sounding so that everyone in

:29:09.:29:12.

the Palace of Westminster knew it was about to take place. We went

:29:13.:29:19.

into questions to Liam Fox, who made opening remarks about how the attack

:29:20.:29:25.

underlined the need for MPs and people who work here to reaffirm the

:29:26.:29:29.

values of democracy and then we were straight into business as usual with

:29:30.:29:33.

questions about trade with Israel, what it will mean if we leave the EU

:29:34.:29:41.

and rely on WTO terms. I think Mrs May is coming into the chamber to

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make a statement. A police officer, PC Keith Palmer, was killed

:29:50.:29:54.

defending us, defending Parliament, and defending Parliamentary

:29:55.:30:00.

democracy. Arrangements have been made for books of condolence in the

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library and Westminster Hall. Our hearts go out to all those directly

:30:07.:30:12.

and indirectly touched by yesterday's events. I should like to

:30:13.:30:21.

thank all colleagues, staff of the house, and members' staff for their

:30:22.:30:26.

forbearance in stressful circumstances yesterday. Naturally,

:30:27.:30:32.

the Parliamentary security authorities have taken measures to

:30:33.:30:37.

ensure Parliament is safe in the light of the attack. In due time,

:30:38.:30:44.

the commission that I chair will consider together with our Lord's

:30:45.:30:49.

counterparts what sort of review of lessons learned would be

:30:50.:30:55.

appropriate. However, let the security personnel who protect us,

:30:56.:31:00.

police security officers and doorkeepers, be in no doubt

:31:01.:31:07.

whatsoever as to our profound appreciation of the way in which

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they discharged their duties yesterday. Matched by other staff of

:31:15.:31:20.

the house. That means that this morning, the house has been able to

:31:21.:31:27.

resume its business undeterred. Border.

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Statement, the Prime Minister. Mr Speaker, yesterday, an act of

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terrorism tried to silence our democracy. But today we meet as

:31:41.:31:46.

normal. As generations have done before us and as future generations

:31:47.:31:50.

will continue to do, to deliver a simple message. We are not afraid.

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Our resolve will never waver in the face of terrorism. We meet here in

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the oldest of all parliaments because we know democracy and the

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values it entails will always prevail. Those values, free speech,

:32:07.:32:16.

liberty, human rights and the rule of law are embodied here in this

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place. That they are shared by free people around the world. A terrorist

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came to the place where people of all nationalities and cultures

:32:29.:32:32.

gather to celebrate what it means to be free and he took out his rage

:32:33.:32:36.

indiscriminately against innocent men, women and children. This was an

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attack on free people everywhere. And on behalf of the British people,

:32:44.:32:49.

I would like to thank our friends and allies around the world who have

:32:50.:32:53.

made it clear they stand with us at this time. What happened on the

:32:54.:32:59.

streets of Westminster yesterday sickened us all. While there is an

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ongoing police investigation, the house will understand there are

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limits to what I can say, but having been updated by police and security

:33:11.:33:15.

officials, let me set out what I can tell the House at this stage. At

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2:40pm yesterday, a single attacker drove his vehicle at speed into

:33:23.:33:26.

innocent pedestrians crossing Westminster Bridge, killing two

:33:27.:33:31.

people and injuring around 40 more. In addition to 12 Britons admitted

:33:32.:33:38.

to hospital, we know the victims include three French children, two

:33:39.:33:45.

Romanians, four South Koreans, one German, one Polish person, one

:33:46.:33:53.

Irish, one Chinese, one Italian, one American and two Greeks and we are

:33:54.:33:57.

in contact with the countries of those affected. The injured included

:33:58.:34:02.

three police officers who were returning from an event to recognise

:34:03.:34:08.

their bravery. Two of those three remain in a serious condition. The

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attacker then left the vehicle and approached a police officer at

:34:13.:34:16.

carriage Gates, attacking the officer with a large knife before he

:34:17.:34:20.

was shot dead by an armed police officer. Tragically, 48-year-old PC

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Keith Palmer was killed. PC Palmer had devoted his life to the service

:34:30.:34:35.

of his country. He had been a member of the Parliamentary and diplomatic

:34:36.:34:40.

protection command for 15 years and a soldier in the Royal Artillery

:34:41.:34:45.

before that. He was a husband and father, killed doing a job he loved.

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He was every inch a hero. His actions will never be forgotten. I

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know the house will join me in sending our deepest condolences to

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his family and to the families and friends of those killed or injured

:35:04.:35:09.

in yesterday's awful attacks. I know also that house will wish to thank

:35:10.:35:15.

those who acted with such speed and professionalism to secure this place

:35:16.:35:18.

and ensure we are able to meet as we are doing today. At 7:30pm, I

:35:19.:35:26.

chaired a meeting of the emergency committee Cobra and will have

:35:27.:35:31.

further briefings and meetings with security today. The threat level to

:35:32.:35:37.

the UK is set that severe, meaning attack is highly likely for

:35:38.:35:41.

sometime. This is the second-highest threat level. The highest level,

:35:42.:35:46.

critical, means there is specific intelligence and attack is imminent.

:35:47.:35:53.

As there is no such intelligence, the independent joint terrorism

:35:54.:35:55.

analysis centre has decided the threat level will not change the

:35:56.:35:59.

light of the attack yesterday. The whole country will want to know who

:36:00.:36:04.

was responsible for this atrocity and the measures we are taking to

:36:05.:36:08.

strengthen security, including here in Westminster. A counterterrorism

:36:09.:36:15.

investigation is already under way. Hundreds of police and security

:36:16.:36:20.

officers have been working through the night to establish everything

:36:21.:36:24.

possible about the attack, including its preparation, motivation and

:36:25.:36:27.

whether there were any associates involved in its planning. While

:36:28.:36:32.

there remained limits on what I can say at this stage, I can confirm

:36:33.:36:37.

overnight police have searched six addresses and made eight at --

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arrests in Birmingham and London. It is believed still he acted alone and

:36:48.:36:51.

police have no reason to believe there are further imminent attacks

:36:52.:36:56.

on the public. His identity is known to the police and MI5 and when

:36:57.:37:02.

operational considerations allow, he will be publicly identified. I can

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confirm he was British-born and that, some years ago, he was once

:37:08.:37:13.

investigated by MI5 in relation to concerns about violent extremism. He

:37:14.:37:18.

was a peripheral figure. The case is historic. He was not part of the

:37:19.:37:23.

current intelligence picture. There was no prior intelligence of his

:37:24.:37:30.

intent or of the plot. Intensive investigations continue. As Acting

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Deputy Commissioner confirmed last night, our working assumption is the

:37:35.:37:40.

attacker was inspired by Islamist ideology. We know the threat from

:37:41.:37:46.

Islamist terrorism is very real, but while the public should remain

:37:47.:37:50.

vigilant, they should not and will not be cowed by this threat. As

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Acting Deputy Commissioner has made clear, we are stepping up policing

:37:58.:38:02.

to protect communities across the country and to reassure the public

:38:03.:38:05.

and as a precautionary measure this will mean increasing the number of

:38:06.:38:10.

patrols in cities across the country with more police and armed police on

:38:11.:38:17.

the streets. Since June 2013, our police, security and intelligence

:38:18.:38:22.

agencies have successfully disrupted 13 separate terrorist plots in

:38:23.:38:27.

Britain. Following the 2015 strategic defence and security

:38:28.:38:31.

review, we protected police budgets for counterterrorism and committed

:38:32.:38:36.

to increase spending on counterterrorism by 30% in real

:38:37.:38:38.

terms over the course of this Parliament and over the next five

:38:39.:38:43.

years we will invest an extra 2.5 billion in building the global

:38:44.:38:51.

security and intelligence network, employing 1900 additional staff at

:38:52.:38:56.

MI5 and MI6 and GCHQ and doubling our global network of experts

:38:57.:39:01.

working with priority countries in Europe, the Middle East, Africa and

:39:02.:39:06.

Asia. In terms of security in Westminster, we should be clear

:39:07.:39:11.

first of all that an attacker attempted to break into Parliament

:39:12.:39:16.

and was shot dead within 20 yards of the gate. If his intention was to

:39:17.:39:21.

gain access to this building, we should be clear he did not succeed.

:39:22.:39:30.

The police heroically did their job. But as is routine, the police

:39:31.:39:33.

together with the house authorities are reviewing security of the

:39:34.:39:39.

Parliamentary estate with the Cabinet Office, who have

:39:40.:39:41.

responsibility for the security measures in place. All of us in this

:39:42.:39:49.

house have a responsibility for the security and safety of staff and

:39:50.:39:52.

advice is available for members who need it. Yesterday we saw the worst

:39:53.:39:59.

of humanity, but we will remember the best. We will remember the

:40:00.:40:04.

extraordinary efforts to save the life of PC Keith Palmer, including

:40:05.:40:08.

those by my right honourable friend, the member for Bournemouth East. And

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we will remember the exceptional bravery of our police, security and

:40:16.:40:19.

emergency services, who once again ran towards the danger, even as they

:40:20.:40:24.

encouraged others to move the other way. On behalf of the whole country,

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I want to pay tribute to them for the work they have been doing to

:40:30.:40:33.

reassure the public, treat the injured, and bring security back to

:40:34.:40:38.

the streets of our capital city. That they have lost one of their own

:40:39.:40:42.

in the attack only makes their calmness and professionalism all the

:40:43.:40:50.

more remarkable. A lot has been said since Terra struck London yesterday,

:40:51.:40:54.

much more will be said in the coming days. But the greatest response lies

:40:55.:41:00.

not in the words of politicians, but in the everyday actions of ordinary

:41:01.:41:06.

people. Beyond these walls today, in scenes repeated in towns and cities

:41:07.:41:10.

across the country, millions of people are going about their days

:41:11.:41:15.

and getting on with their lives. The streets are as busy as ever, offices

:41:16.:41:20.

full and shops bustling. Millions will be boarding trains and

:41:21.:41:26.

aeroplanes to travel to London and see for themselves the greatest city

:41:27.:41:30.

on earth. It is in these actions, millions of acts of normality, we

:41:31.:41:36.

find the best response to terrorism. A response that denies enemies their

:41:37.:41:41.

victory, that refuses to let them win. That shows we will never give

:41:42.:41:48.

in. A response driven by that same spirit that drove a husband and

:41:49.:41:53.

father to put himself between us and our attacker and to pay the ultimate

:41:54.:42:00.

price. A response that says to the men and women who propagate this

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hate and evil, you will not defeat us. Mr Speaker, let this be the

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message from this house and this nation today, our values will

:42:11.:42:15.

prevail. And I commend this statement to the house.

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Order, colleagues, I am advised we have been joined today by French

:42:24.:42:30.

Foreign Minister who is accompanied by a number of his colleagues and

:42:31.:42:35.

also by the Deputy Foreign Secretary of the right honourable gentleman,

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sir, we appreciate your presence and you're very fitting display of

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solidarity with us. Mr Jeremy Corbyn.

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I'd like to associate myself with the Prime Minister's remarks that

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she's just made. What happened yesterday within metres of where we

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sit now was an appalling atrocity. The police are still piecing

:43:07.:43:10.

together what took place. And what lay behind it. It behoves us all not

:43:11.:43:17.

to rush to judgment but to wait for the police to establish the facts,

:43:18.:43:23.

to stay united in our communities and not allow fear or the voices of

:43:24.:43:31.

hatred to divide or cower us. Today, we're united by our humanity and by

:43:32.:43:39.

our democratic values. And by that human impulse of solidarity. To

:43:40.:43:44.

stand together in times of darkness and adversity. Mr Speaker, I

:43:45.:43:51.

expressed my condolences to the family and friends of police officer

:43:52.:43:55.

Keith Palmer who gave his life yesterday in defence of the public

:43:56.:44:01.

and of our democracy we thank the police and security personnel who

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keep us safe every day on this estate. We especially pay tribute to

:44:05.:44:10.

the bravery of those who took action to stop the perpetrator of

:44:11.:44:17.

yesterday's assault. The police and security staff lost a colleague

:44:18.:44:21.

yesterday and continue to fulfil their duties despite their shock and

:44:22.:44:26.

their grief for their fall yep colleague which many expressed to me

:44:27.:44:28.

late last night when he was talking to them. We see the police and

:44:29.:44:35.

security every day. They are our colleagues, fellow workers, they are

:44:36.:44:39.

friends and neighbours. As the Prime Minister said, when dangerous and

:44:40.:44:45.

violent incidents take place, we all instinctively run away from them for

:44:46.:44:49.

our own safety. The police and emergency services run towards them.

:44:50.:44:54.

We are grateful for the public service yesterday, today and every

:44:55.:44:58.

day that they pull on their uniforms to protect us all. I want also, Mr

:44:59.:45:05.

Speaker, to express our admiration to the honourable member for

:45:06.:45:08.

Bournemouth East whose efforts yesterday deserve special

:45:09.:45:11.

commendation. He used his skill to try and safe life. Innocent people

:45:12.:45:17.

were killed yesterday walking across Westminster Bridge. As many millions

:45:18.:45:24.

of Londoners and tourists have before them and as all of us in this

:45:25.:45:28.

chamber have. As the Prime Minister said, the injured include people of

:45:29.:45:34.

ten nationalities. We send our deepest condolences to their loved

:45:35.:45:38.

once and the loved ones of those still in a very critical condition,

:45:39.:45:42.

including the French schoolchildren so welcome in our capital visiting

:45:43.:45:50.

yesterday from corn co-in Britney. We send our sympathies to them and

:45:51.:45:53.

the people in their town and community. We thank all the

:45:54.:45:58.

dedicated National Health Service staff working to save lives,

:45:59.:46:04.

including all those from St Thomas' Hospital who rushed out O'Straight

:46:05.:46:07.

over to the scene of the incident to try and support and save lives. Many

:46:08.:46:14.

people, Mr Speaker, will have been totally traumatised by yesterday's

:46:15.:46:18.

awful events. Not joust all of us here but watching on television

:46:19.:46:22.

worried for the safety of their friends and loved ones. I ask in

:46:23.:46:27.

this House and the country, please, look after each other. Help one

:46:28.:46:33.

another and think of one another. It is by demonstrating our values

:46:34.:46:38.

solidarity, community, humanity and love, that we will defeat the poison

:46:39.:46:46.

and division of hatred. THE SPEAKER: Prime Minister. First

:46:47.:46:52.

of all may I join the right honourable gentleman in expressing

:46:53.:46:57.

our gratitude to the support and solidarity the French Government

:46:58.:47:01.

have shown us at this time, like other countries on the continent,

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France itself felt the horror and trauma of terrible terrorist

:47:06.:47:09.

attacks. We're grateful to the French Government for the support

:47:10.:47:13.

they've shown us. The right honourable gentleman is right in his

:47:14.:47:16.

description of the police officers. Every day when they put on that

:47:17.:47:20.

uniform, they don't know what they are going to confront in the course

:47:21.:47:25.

of their duties that day. It is a fact often forgotten when people see

:47:26.:47:28.

the police officer walking on the streets that actually, they do put

:47:29.:47:32.

their lives on the line for our safety and security. They show

:47:33.:47:36.

enormous bravery. We are grateful to them all. We're also grateful, as

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the right honourable gentleman said, to all those from the emergency

:47:41.:47:44.

services. To those from the hospitals who, and others, who

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rushed forward to give aid and support to those who had been

:47:49.:47:52.

injured at a time when they knew not what else might be happening in the

:47:53.:47:57.

vicinity and whether they might, themselves, be in danger. Finally,

:47:58.:48:00.

as the right honourable gentleman says, at this time, it is so

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important we show that it is our values that will prevail. That the

:48:05.:48:09.

terrorists will not win. That we will go about our lives showing that

:48:10.:48:15.

unity of purpose and the values that we share as one nation going forward

:48:16.:48:20.

and ensuring that the terrorists will be defeated.

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THE SPEAKER: Mr Dominic Greave. I join with my right honourable friend

:48:30.:48:32.

with everyone she said in respect of the deaths and injuries that have

:48:33.:48:37.

taken place. I join with her sending our condolences to the families and

:48:38.:48:42.

also to the injured. My right honourable friend has set exactly

:48:43.:48:49.

the right tone. Those of us who are privy to the information and

:48:50.:48:52.

background of these matters know very well that it is has been little

:48:53.:48:59.

short of a miracle over the course of the last few years we have

:49:00.:49:03.

escaped so lightly from the evil that is, I'm afraid, present in our

:49:04.:49:09.

society and manfests itself in these senseless and hideous acts of

:49:10.:49:14.

violence and evil. We have been very fortunate in that our security

:49:15.:49:19.

services have been immensely diligent and helpful in preventing

:49:20.:49:23.

such attacks. But she may agree with me that the house is going to have

:49:24.:49:29.

to simply be resolute in accepting that such attacks cannot always be

:49:30.:49:34.

prevented. And that we have as a society to accept we are going to

:49:35.:49:39.

have to fight this evil with rational, democratic principles in

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order to get rid of it and that there are in reality no short cuts

:49:43.:49:48.

that will ever enable us to do that. THE SPEAKER: Prime Minister. I

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absolutely agree with my right honourable friend. He refers to the

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number of plots which have been disrupted in recent years. It is

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easy to forget that when the threat level is at severe, what that means

:50:05.:50:09.

is an attack is highly likely. It is not possible. We live in a free and

:50:10.:50:13.

open country, we live in a democracy. It's not possible to

:50:14.:50:18.

ensure, as he says, that we can prevent any attack from taking place

:50:19.:50:22.

but we can work as hard as our security services and police do,

:50:23.:50:28.

precisely to try to prevent attacks from taking place. They have worked

:50:29.:50:32.

hard. They have been doing a good job and they continue to do a good

:50:33.:50:37.

job in keeping us safe and will do so into the future. If we are to

:50:38.:50:43.

defeat this evil, my right honourable friend is right. We'll

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defeat it through our democracy and our values. We must defeat, of

:50:47.:50:53.

course, the terrible ideology which leads people to conduct these

:50:54.:50:58.

terrible attacks. May I begin by associating myself and my Ron Habel

:50:59.:51:02.

and right honourable colleagues with everything that has been said by the

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Prime Minister, the leader of the Labour Party and by you, Mr Speaker.

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Today of all days, we are reminded notwithstanding our difficulties on

:51:14.:51:17.

political and constitutional issues we, we are as one in democracy, the

:51:18.:51:23.

rule of law and harmonies between people of all faiths and none. May I

:51:24.:51:31.

begin personally by wishing the Home Secretary and Prime Minister well as

:51:32.:51:36.

they deal on our behalf with the aftermath of the appalling

:51:37.:51:39.

indiscriminate terrorist act yesterday. Our hearts go out to the

:51:40.:51:44.

family, friends and colleagues of PC Keith Palmer and all other

:51:45.:51:50.

casualties. We are hugely grateful to all police, security and

:51:51.:51:52.

intelligence staff and first responders who ran towards danger

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without western for their own safety. I include our colleague

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Tobias Ellwood. Today is not a day for detailed questions. Will the

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Prime Minister accept on behalf of the Scottish National Party and no

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doubt every member of this House, our huge debt of gratitude to all

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police and security agency staff who are working so hard to keep everyone

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in the country safe. Does she agree with me, no terrorist outrage is

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representative of any faith or of any faith community and we recommit

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ourselves to strengthening the bonds of tolerance and understanding?

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Finally s it not best to follow the advice of Brendan Cox, the husband

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of our murdered MP colleague Jo Cox, who has said in the days to come, I

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hope we will remember the love and bravery of the victim not just the

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hatred and cowardice of the attacker. May I thank the right

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honourable gentleman for his words. He absolutely correct. Now is a time

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for us to come together to promote those values of tolerance and

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understanding he has referred to. To recognise that what motivates the

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terrorist is a warped ideology and a desire to destroy the values that we

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share and the values that underpins our democracy. Those values of the

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rule of law of human rights, of tolerance and understanding and

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democracy itself. We should be at one in ensuring those values

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prevail. Finally, as he says, we should remember the bravery of the

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victims and the bravery of those who keep us safe day in and day out.

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THE SPEAKER: Mr Iain Duncan Smith. Mr Speaker, may I commend my right

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honourable friend's powerful statement. I add my prayers to those

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of hers for those who have died and who are suffering. Also,

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particularly, for Keith Palmer, our wonderful and brave police officer.

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We have faced such threats before. By those of twisted and violent

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ideologies and the broken stones of the arch that we enter through on a

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daily basis bear testament to time and again. They have failed. They

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will always fail because we are a beacon of freedom in this place.

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That is why they target us. But as they fail, may I urge my right

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honourable friend to ensure that as we extoll our righteous defiance in

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the face of such evil, we also lace it with compassion, tolerance and

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hope. Well, I absolutely share the thoughts that my right honourable

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friend has set out. He is right, this place is a beacon of freedom.

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We should never forget that. We should be absolutely resolute in our

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determination to defeat this evil. But we should also be optimistic and

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hopeful for our democracy and our society in the future.

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THE SPEAKER: Mr Tim Farron. Thank you. Can I thank the Prime Minister

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for her statement and early sight of it. Can I also thank her for her

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words from the steps of 10 Downing Street last Knight. They were

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unifying and defiance. She did speak for us all. We know the police keep

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us safe. Yesterday, in the most shocking of ways, we saw how true

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that really is. In my prayers are Keith Palmer, his family and all the

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victims of yesterday's outrage. They will continue to be there. We are

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beyond thankful to the police, the NHS, emergency services, actually,

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to the staff of this House in keeping us safe and being so utterly

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dedicated to their roles. Those who attack us hate our freedom, our

:55:52.:55:57.

peaceful democracy, our love of country, our tolerance, openness and

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unity. As we work to unravel how this unspeakable attack happened,

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will she agree with me that we must not, either in our laws or by our

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actions curtail these values. Indeed, we should have more of them.

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I thank the right honourable gentleman for his comments. He is

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right, of course, as others have said, we should ensure that our

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values, those values of democracy and tolerance, freedom prevail, it

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is those values which the terrorists are trying to attack. It is our very

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way of life that they wish to destroy. That is why it is so

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important out there, those millions of citizens going about their lives

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as they would do normally showing, in the very smallst of ways, but

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each of every one of them, a defiance of the terrorists.

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THE SPEAKER: Mark Field. Whilst the dreadful events of yesterday took

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place within the boundaries of my own constituency, the Palace of

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Westminster is close to the hearts of not just the 650 of us but many

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millions of our country men and people who live abroad. May I thank

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the Prime Minister for speaking so eloquently for our nation on the

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steps of Downing Street yesterday and in the House today. She reminds

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us all the greatest tribute we collectively can pay to those so

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tragically murdered is to ensure we go about our business as normally as

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possible and maintain the values and liberties our forefathers have

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fought so hard to win on our behalf. I agree with my honourable friend.

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It is so important we continue to show that we, not just value but

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espouse in every action embody those pre-Domes and liberties. Those

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freedoms were hard fought. There are parts of this palace where there

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have been many arguments in the past about those very freedoms and

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liberties. We must ensure that they remain and that we show in our

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actions in our deeds and in our words that they remain at the heart

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of our democracy. Can I thank the Prime Minister for

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her words here today and also her words on the steps of Downing Street

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yesterday. At this very difficult and important time she spoke froth

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all, so I thank her for that. We are so proud of the bravery of PC Keith

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Palmer, so grateful for what he did to keep us safe and I would like to

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add my tribute to all the policing here at Westminster and the

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parliamentary staff who acted with such calmness and professionalism

:58:50.:58:53.

yesterday, and I would like to pay tribute to the emergency trauma team

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at Kings College Hospital who are caring the injured. This was an

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horrific crime and it has cost lives and caused injury, but as an act of

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terror, it has failed. It has failed because we are here and we are going

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to go about our business. It has failed because despite the trauma

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that they witnessed outside their windows, our staff are here and they

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are getting on with their work. It failed because as the Prime Minister

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so rightly said, we are not going to allow this to be used as a pretext

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for division, hatred and Islamophobia. This democracy is

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strong and this Parliament is robust. This was an horrific crime

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but as an act of terror, it has failed. The right honourable lady

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speaks very well and I utterly agree with the words she has spoken. Some

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of us were present 38 years ago and where nearby when Airey Neave was

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murdered. The message then was not to condemn a whole group of people.

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The message I got from my imam was we will always be with those who

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work for peace. Can I suggest we try and disappoint those who try to

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calculate the publicity will work in their favour and make sure we work

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together to disappoint them? My honourable friend makes a very

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important point. The Metropolitan Police are bringing a number of

:00:29.:00:31.

faith leaders together for a meeting with them today to show the

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importance of that coming together of faith leaders, and they are, of

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course, working with communities up and down the country both to

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reassure, because there will be communities concerned about the

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possible reaction, that might take place, to reassure those

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communities, the job of the police is to keep us all safe. Ed Miliband.

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Can I join others in commending the prime Mr for her statement last

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night and today. In her tone and substance she has spoken for the

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whole country and I commend her for it. Can I also echoed those who have

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said that we must not allow in the coming days and weeks, anyone to try

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and divide our country on the basis of faith or nationality after these

:01:20.:01:24.

attacks, because the reality is, but across London, across the country,

:01:25.:01:30.

we are a country united against these attacks. That is who we are.

:01:31.:01:36.

The right honourable gentleman was absolutely right. The country is

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united. People of all faiths and none are going about their business

:01:41.:01:44.

in defiance of the terrorists. They have a very clear message, they will

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not be cowed and this is a message the House gives very clearly today,

:01:50.:01:53.

that this country will not be cowed by these terrorists.

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Theresa Villiers. I to send my sympathies to all those bereaved in

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yesterday's horrific attack. And as we reflect on what happened,

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is it time to consider whether the police who guard sensitive sites

:02:30.:02:31.

known to be of interest to terrorists, like Parliament or a

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airport is, should routinely carry personal protection weapons, even

:02:34.:02:35.

when those offices are not part of the units formerly tasked with armed

:02:36.:02:38.

response? Over the 20 years since I have been in this House, the level

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of security has been enhanced significantly and the number of

:02:41.:02:42.

offices on the parliamentary estate has been enhanced significantly. As

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to whether offices are routinely armed, that is an operational matter

:02:46.:02:50.

for the police themselves. They are the best able to judge the

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circumstances in which it is best for individuals to have those arms.

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But of course, we have seen a significant increase in the number

:03:02.:03:06.

of armed response vehicles, specialist firearms officers and

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counterterrorism officers. It is a sad reflection that it is necessary

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to do that. The question that my right honourable friend specifically

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raises is really an operational matter for the police. Mr Nigel

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Dodds. Can I to commend the prime Mr for her words last evening and today

:03:26.:03:29.

and she spoke for the entire country. PC Keith Palmer was and is,

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and his colleagues are the reason we are here today and any other day,

:03:37.:03:40.

and he embodied the rule of law which we stand for. He stood in

:03:41.:03:44.

harms way for all of us and we remember and pray for his family and

:03:45.:03:48.

all those victims who suffered yesterday and the Arriva. We must

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remember as well the bravery and always will of the emergency

:03:55.:03:59.

services and the parliamentary staff, and the decency of the

:04:00.:04:08.

ordinary members of the public who rushed to help and our right

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honourable friend, the member for Bournemouth East. We must uphold the

:04:12.:04:15.

values of this place. The democratic values we have learned in Northern

:04:16.:04:20.

Ireland, is the way to overcome terrorism is working together

:04:21.:04:22.

politically and in every other way to ensure that our democratic

:04:23.:04:27.

values, the rule of law, human rights are all upheld in every way

:04:28.:04:31.

that they can and we must rededicate ourselves to that in the future. I

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absolutely agree with the right honourable gentleman. We are able to

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be here today because of the bravery of our police officers. He also

:04:41.:04:44.

refers rightly to mothers of the emergency services and the public

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and the staff of this House and Parliament, who calmly went about

:04:51.:04:54.

their job to end sure that everybody was safe yesterday. And as he has

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said, and he has referred to the experience in Northern Ireland, the

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way to defeat terrorism is by working together and by upholding

:05:04.:05:07.

our democratic values. As a backbencher is seems to me that

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both the Prime Minister and the leaders of the opposition parties

:05:17.:05:19.

have set exactly the right tone today and proven it is values which

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unite this kingdom. When this chamber was completely destroyed in

:05:22.:05:25.

the war, Mr Churchill and Mr Attlee decided not a single day would pass

:05:26.:05:30.

without us carrying on our work. The Prime Minister showed today and her

:05:31.:05:33.

opposite number has shown today that the best way to defeat terrorism is

:05:34.:05:37.

to prove that we will not be moved from our values and our place. My

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honourable friend is absolutely right. He refers to a specific

:05:43.:05:49.

example in the past when once again Parliament upheld our democracy, and

:05:50.:05:54.

showed our values in the face of evil and we continue to do it today.

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Mr Alan Johnson. The Prime Minister is dealing with this outrage in a

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calm and assured way. Does she agree with me that an effective

:06:08.:06:12.

counterterrorism strategy, designed to prepare, protect and pursue would

:06:13.:06:17.

be inadequate without the strand of prevent? And in that vein, will she

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assure the House that across all 43 constabularies, there will be

:06:26.:06:29.

neighbourhood policing teams visible to and contactable by the public,

:06:30.:06:35.

which is a crucial strand in feeding information on terrorism to the

:06:36.:06:39.

counterterrorism organisations? The right honourable gentleman was

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right, and as he will know from his experience, our counterterrorism

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strategy does indeed embody those four pillars within it, including

:06:47.:06:50.

the pillar of prevent. And the action that is taken to prevent

:06:51.:06:55.

terrorism, to prevent violent extremism and prevent extremism will

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come in many forms. What is important, of course, is that

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individuals within communities feel they are able to give information

:07:04.:07:08.

when they are concerned about somebody within their community or

:07:09.:07:11.

concerned about somebody perhaps within their family and what is

:07:12.:07:14.

happening to them and it is important that there are those

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opportunities for them, and there will be a variety of means. Some

:07:18.:07:21.

through policing, some through other opportunities where people can go

:07:22.:07:24.

and give that information, not just to the protection of us all but to

:07:25.:07:29.

the benefit of the individual concerned.

:07:30.:07:32.

May I commend the Prime Minister on her very fitting statement. When

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police officers die, they leave behind husbands, wives, sons and

:07:38.:07:42.

daughters. The police dependents' trust was set up to support the

:07:43.:07:45.

dependence of police officers killed or injured on duty following the

:07:46.:07:50.

brutal murder of three police officers in Shepherd's Bush in 1966.

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With the prime Mr join me in encouraging people to donate to the

:07:56.:08:03.

police dependents' trust? I am very happy to encourage people to do

:08:04.:08:09.

exactly as my honourable friend has suggested. It is a valuable

:08:10.:08:15.

organisation providing help and support. The families who are left

:08:16.:08:20.

behind have to live forever with what for us has been an act of

:08:21.:08:24.

bravery for their family member, but for them is a tragedy and a trauma.

:08:25.:08:33.

Yvette Cooper. I to welcome the Prime Minister's words as she speaks

:08:34.:08:36.

for all of us with the backing of all parties today, and she was right

:08:37.:08:41.

to say this was an attempted attack on parliament and democracy, that

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failed because of the bravery of PC Keith Palmer, who gave his life

:08:48.:08:51.

doing a job with others to keep people safe. It was also an

:08:52.:08:58.

attempted violent cowardly attack on our freedom, by mowing down people

:08:59.:09:02.

who were just walking along a bridge. As our hearts go out to

:09:03.:09:07.

them, would she agree that that attack on freedom also fails, not

:09:08.:09:11.

just because of communities' resilience and determination, but

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also perhaps because of the unique partnership we have in this country

:09:16.:09:19.

between the police and communities of all faiths across all parts of

:09:20.:09:23.

the country, and that partnership working will be crucial to making

:09:24.:09:30.

sure the terrorists never win. The right honourable lady is right. It

:09:31.:09:35.

was a cowardly attack as she said. Parliament has particularly focused

:09:36.:09:40.

on the attempt to attack here in parliament, but the mowing down of

:09:41.:09:45.

innocent men, women and children, who were just going about their

:09:46.:09:48.

business in a variety of ways, but many of whom had come here as

:09:49.:09:54.

tourists to enjoy the great delights of this wonderful city, was an

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absolutely cowardly and appalling act, and we do need to ensure, we

:09:58.:10:03.

have I think a unique bond between our police and their communities,

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and that is important that that partnership and that bond continues.

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Mr Philip Davies. Can I commend the Prime Minister's statement and can I

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commend the Prime Minister for her reassuring dignity and resolve that

:10:20.:10:24.

she showed. She has shown why she is proving to be a good Prime Minister

:10:25.:10:28.

and why we are proud to have her as our Prime Minister. Of course, our

:10:29.:10:32.

hearts go out to the victims and we honour the police who risked their

:10:33.:10:38.

lives every day to keep us safe and unfortunately, too often give up

:10:39.:10:43.

their lives to keep us safe. Can the Prime Minister assure us that she

:10:44.:10:46.

will make sure the police forces up and down the country and the

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security services will always have the resources that they need in

:10:51.:10:55.

order to carry out their job of keeping us all safe? I thank my

:10:56.:10:59.

honourable friend for his comments. And indeed, as I indicated in

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Maesteg and, we have taken steps to enhance resources available for our

:11:05.:11:09.

security and intelligence agencies, and to protect the resources

:11:10.:11:14.

available for our police forces, particularly working in the

:11:15.:11:17.

counterterrorism area. We have looked in recent times to increase,

:11:18.:11:23.

as I indicated earlier, the number of armed response vehicles

:11:24.:11:26.

available, and that is not just here but in other parts of the country as

:11:27.:11:31.

well. Of course, we constantly look at making sure our response is

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appropriate, but we are very conscious of the job that our police

:11:37.:11:42.

do day in, day out and we give them the support that they need.

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I speak for my party Plaid Cymru and also commend the Prime Minister on

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the words she has given us today. I also want to say that us here today,

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this is not a show of defiance, it is a show of respect for the dead

:11:59.:12:03.

and the injured. Respect to our duty, respect to democracy and our

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duty to our constituents. One man cannot shut down a city and one man

:12:09.:12:13.

cannot lock down democracy. Does she also agree that we must not react to

:12:14.:12:21.

such a warped ideology with unworthy responses? I think what is

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absolutely appropriate is the response that this House has shown

:12:26.:12:29.

today. It has shown gratitude for the bravery of our police and

:12:30.:12:33.

emergency services. It has shown respect and concern for those who

:12:34.:12:37.

have been the victims of the terrible attacks which took place.

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But also it has shown normality, and I think that is what is important as

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we defied the terrorists, and as we work to defeat them. Mr Nigel Evans.

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Mr Speaker, I thank the Prime Minister for her statement. Over 25

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years, well, I had been an MP for 25 years, and I have seen the police

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play many roles around the Palace of Westminster. One is to give advice

:13:05.:13:08.

to members of the public about where to go. On other occasions, none of

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us can have passed the gates without seeing members of the public having

:13:14.:13:16.

their photographs taken with the police. It is one of the things that

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they do. And one of the other things they do is to protect our democracy

:13:21.:13:24.

which we saw yesterday with brutal consequences. I'm very proud of the

:13:25.:13:30.

police and everything they do in defending our democracy. Keith

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Palmer was one of us. The police to protect us one of us. I hope that at

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one stage, the tribute to Keith and the police that we are here today

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and our proceedings are going on. We have the arch which has been spoken

:13:51.:13:54.

about the four which is a lasting memorial to those who paid the

:13:55.:13:59.

ultimate sacrifice for our democracy, and I do hope that at an

:14:00.:14:04.

appropriate time, with discussion with the family, that we also may be

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able to look at a lasting memorial to Keith in order that each and

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everyone of us know that there are people putting their lives on the

:14:12.:14:16.

line for our democracy today. I thank my honourable friend and I'm

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sure the House authorities wish to consider the point he has made. If I

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may reflect on his earlier remarks, I think it is a particular

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characteristic of policing here in the United Kingdom, that our police

:14:31.:14:34.

are able to have that link and that bond with members of the public, at

:14:35.:14:38.

the same time as they are doing that very difficult job of keeping us

:14:39.:14:43.

safe. We see it so often when major events take place, Royal weddings,

:14:44.:14:48.

the Olympics and so forth, but actually, he is absolutely right, we

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see it day in, day out here in this parliamentary estate. Mr Hilary

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Benn. Thank you. As we mourn those who

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were so cruelly cut down yesterday, give our grateful thanks to the

:15:10.:15:11.

police and the emergency and security services for their

:15:12.:15:13.

exemplary courage and devotion to duty, and show was a country by our

:15:14.:15:16.

determination to carry on, that we will not be cowed, as the prime and

:15:17.:15:19.

the birds are eloquently, does she agree that we will also need to show

:15:20.:15:24.

the same determination to stand up to anyone who seeks to sow division

:15:25.:15:30.

or stir up hatred in the wake of the Howard Lee attacks -- as the Prime

:15:31.:15:35.

Minister put it so eloquently. We must be very clear that the voices

:15:36.:15:40.

of evil and hate must not divide us and that must be a very clear

:15:41.:15:46.

message from this House today. Whilst our hearts go to all those

:15:47.:15:51.

people who were wounded and murdered yesterday and to all the people who

:15:52.:15:55.

sought to help them, with your indulgence I would like to turn for

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just a moment to PC Keith Palmer who I first met 25 years ago as Gunnar

:16:00.:16:07.

Keith Palmer at headquarters battery 100 Regiment Royal Artillery. He was

:16:08.:16:12.

a strong professional public servant. And it was a delight to

:16:13.:16:19.

meet him here again only a few months after being elected. Would my

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right honourable friend the Prime Minister, in recognition of the work

:16:28.:16:34.

that he did, and the other police officers and public servants here in

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the house do, consider recognising his gallantry and sacrifice formally

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with a posthumous recognition? I thank my honourable friend for the

:16:50.:16:57.

obvious compassion and the passion with which he has spoken about an

:16:58.:17:02.

individual he knew, and he bears witness to the tremendous public

:17:03.:17:05.

service that Keith Palmer has given this country in so many ways, and

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having served in our Armed Forces, and then come here to this place,

:17:10.:17:17.

and paid the ultimate sacrifice here at our heart of democracy, I can

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assure my honourable friend that the issue he has raised is of course one

:17:23.:17:26.

which will be considered in due course. Obviously yesterday we saw

:17:27.:17:37.

absolutely the best of security, policing and emergency services, but

:17:38.:17:41.

I would just make a small fleet going forward, yesterday we also saw

:17:42.:17:45.

the camaraderie that got people through the locked down. We had

:17:46.:17:50.

staff stuck in offices all over the estate. As we go forward, if people

:17:51.:17:56.

can take the bravery and determination of yesterday, but

:17:57.:18:00.

remember to talk among themselves, support their staff and not bury any

:18:01.:18:05.

feelings of fear from yesterday, but to let that out, so that there is

:18:06.:18:16.

absolutely no scar remnant within this place as we go forward? The

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honourable lady has made a very important point. It is too easy for

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us to come to this chamber, to rightly show the gratitude for the

:18:23.:18:27.

bravery of those who protect us, but to forget that for all our staff who

:18:28.:18:31.

were caught up in this, this could have lasting impacts, and I think it

:18:32.:18:36.

is important that we do make, and I understand that there are moves

:18:37.:18:39.

afoot, to ensure that the staff, as I said in my staff, that members are

:18:40.:18:45.

able to access help and support should they wish to do that. But

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actually, just allowing people to talk about what happened is often

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the best remedy. And Mr Speaker, can I thank the Prime Minister for her

:18:59.:19:01.

statement this morning and her message last night in Downing

:19:02.:19:05.

Street? Canales is a former Metropolitan Police officer, pass my

:19:06.:19:10.

condolences personally to Constable Palmer's family and also to the

:19:11.:19:14.

pedestrians and everyone involved yesterday. A summary who served on

:19:15.:19:18.

the counterterrorism command in the 1980s here in London, when the IRA

:19:19.:19:25.

and other Middle Eastern groups were bombing London, I know only too well

:19:26.:19:30.

the challenge which is faced by the police. I know the Prime Minister

:19:31.:19:34.

has already been asked about resourcing, but can I reinforce that

:19:35.:19:39.

by asking that in the area of counterterrorism, that the Met

:19:40.:19:42.

police, indeed all police forces, and the security services generally

:19:43.:19:50.

should want for nothing? I can reassure my honourable friend that

:19:51.:19:57.

we did do this major exercise of looking at the resources that should

:19:58.:20:01.

be available for counterterrorism, across all aspects of dealing with

:20:02.:20:06.

counterterrorism. This is about the security and intelligence agencies

:20:07.:20:09.

and about the police, but also there are other parts of government which

:20:10.:20:13.

have a role to play in counterterrorism as well and extra

:20:14.:20:17.

resources are going in as I indicated in my statement. Of

:20:18.:20:20.

course, we do want to ensure that all those who are involved in acting

:20:21.:20:23.

against terrorism have the support they need to do the job that we want

:20:24.:20:31.

them to do. Could I associate myself with the

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prime Mr's words and those of my right honourable friend the Leader

:20:36.:20:39.

of the Opposition -- the Prime Minister's words. Would she accept

:20:40.:20:43.

this is not about the personal security of us as members of

:20:44.:20:51.

Parliament or the security of this building. PC Keith Palmer died

:20:52.:20:57.

defending the values of free people everywhere, and isn't the proper

:20:58.:21:01.

response over the coming days, as more facts emerge, that we stand

:21:02.:21:06.

firm for those selfsame values of free people everywhere? The

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honourable gentleman is absolutely right. It is not about individuals

:21:15.:21:18.

in this House or this building, it is what we stand for and we should

:21:19.:21:22.

stand absolutely firm in those values.

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May I start off by commending the Prime Minister on a very powerful

:21:28.:21:31.

speech, particularly the tone with which it was delivered. Yesterday,

:21:32.:21:39.

we saw an attack on the centre of democracy, and also an attack on the

:21:40.:21:43.

citizens of ten countries. The message that we need to take away

:21:44.:21:50.

from here is this ideology, this evil ideology is not only an attack

:21:51.:21:54.

on Western countries and the values we hold so dear, but it is an evil

:21:55.:21:59.

which seeks to destroy the way of life across the globe. And I hope

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that the message will go out to all decent and civilised countries, that

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we must all redouble our resolve to deal with this evil. I say to my

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honourable friend that I have been struck by the number of messages I

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have received, the number of foreign leaders who I have spoken to, who

:22:21.:22:24.

have been absolutely clear at this time that we stand together as he

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says, in defiance but also in ensuring that we will defeat this

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evil. Regarding the immense bravery of everyone yesterday, should we not

:22:39.:22:41.

recognise that terror attacks are likely to continue for years to come

:22:42.:22:48.

and this country is not unique, let alone -- in Europe let alone

:22:49.:22:53.

elsewhere, and having onslaughts against them? But regarding what the

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Prime Minister has just said, can I tell her that during the sustained

:22:58.:23:00.

IRA bombing, I did not receive during all those years as a member

:23:01.:23:05.

of Parliament, I did not receive any letters at all, or anyone come to my

:23:06.:23:10.

surgery telling me that we should change our policy in combating

:23:11.:23:15.

terrorism. And I have to say, it illustrates once again our people

:23:16.:23:20.

are simply not appeasers. The honourable gentleman is right. I

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believe the British public stand with this parliament in wanting to

:23:26.:23:30.

see us in defiance of the terrorists, defeating the

:23:31.:23:33.

terrorists, and showing that it is the values of democracy and the rule

:23:34.:23:38.

of law, the values of free people everywhere, that underpin our way of

:23:39.:23:42.

life. I think people recognise that and they want to see this House

:23:43.:23:48.

endorsing that. I support all that the Prime

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Minister has said and done and my thoughts are with all those who have

:23:52.:23:57.

been affected by this evil act. The assistant Police Commissioner in

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2016 said two people a day are being turned away from extremism, and that

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it is often members of the individual's on community who are

:24:07.:24:14.

alerting the authorities. Can I ask what further steps we are taking to

:24:15.:24:17.

engage with all our communities so that we can work together to defeat

:24:18.:24:24.

nonviolent extremism which often leads to violent extremism? My

:24:25.:24:27.

honourable friend is right, it is important that we defeat that

:24:28.:24:31.

extremism and deal with it at that early stage, and there is a lot of

:24:32.:24:37.

work that is being done within communities, working with

:24:38.:24:38.

communities. Obviously, there is work that the police do to encourage

:24:39.:24:43.

people within communities to come forward with information, when it is

:24:44.:24:49.

to do so, when they have those concerns, and that is important,

:24:50.:24:52.

that people need to have the confidence of feeling that they can

:24:53.:24:58.

do that and it is important to create the environment within

:24:59.:25:01.

communities when people feel, when there are those who are trying to

:25:02.:25:08.

destroy our way of life, and they feel able to take action about that.

:25:09.:25:14.

But my honourable friend is right, bringing communities together is an

:25:15.:25:19.

important part of the work that the government is doing. I had intended

:25:20.:25:22.

to call another burning a member who has sadly left the chamber. In the

:25:23.:25:27.

absence of that honourable member, let's hear the voice of Jack Dromey.

:25:28.:25:33.

Can I thank the Prime Minister for her leadership in a bleak moment for

:25:34.:25:38.

our country. As a brave guardian of Parliament, Keith Palmer fought for

:25:39.:25:42.

his life yesterday. The right honourable member for Bournemouth

:25:43.:25:45.

East fought to save his life, and can I say about the right honourable

:25:46.:25:49.

member, he is one of Parliament's finest. Can I also ask the Prime

:25:50.:25:57.

Minister this, in backing our police to defeat terrorism, does she

:25:58.:26:01.

believe we should heed their wise words, that to demonise and divide

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is to play right into the hands of the evil that is terrorism? We

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should not be it making any attempt to demonise individual communities.

:26:16.:26:18.

What we should recognise is it is individuals who are terrorists, that

:26:19.:26:24.

they are adhering to a warped ideology, warped ideology of evil.

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And that is true whatever the origin of the terrorism and there are

:26:29.:26:33.

different ideologies and this House has been struck before, as we know,

:26:34.:26:38.

and has felt terrorism of a different sort hitting at a member

:26:39.:26:43.

of this House, so we must make sure we do not demonise communities but

:26:44.:26:47.

we work with them to identify and isolate those who wish to do us

:26:48.:26:55.

harm. Andrew Bridgen. In the wake of yesterday's evil, tragic but not

:26:56.:26:59.

wholly unexpected attack on this place, as the Prime Minister said

:27:00.:27:02.

there will be a review of the response of our excellent police and

:27:03.:27:07.

security services. But does my right honourable friend agree with me,

:27:08.:27:11.

that in an open and free democracy such as ours, there is always going

:27:12.:27:17.

to be a balance between our security and public access and the

:27:18.:27:20.

transparency of our democracy, and if that balance is not maintained,

:27:21.:27:26.

then unfortunately the terrorists will have won? My honourable friend

:27:27.:27:31.

is absolutely right. It is a balance, we live in an open and free

:27:32.:27:35.

democracy. We want members of the public to have access to members of

:27:36.:27:39.

their representatives and four months of this place to have easy

:27:40.:27:44.

access to this place. That is part of how we operate. It is important

:27:45.:27:48.

as we look ahead and we ask that question whether there is anything

:27:49.:27:51.

more that needs to be done, we recognise that we should not in

:27:52.:27:56.

anyway destroy the values that underpin our democracy, because if

:27:57.:27:59.

we do that, as he says, the terrorists will have won.

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I want to agree with everything that every member has said. But can I add

:28:05.:28:13.

thanks to two more groups of people who haven't been mentioned. The

:28:14.:28:18.

staff at Westminster Abbey who received people who were left from

:28:19.:28:24.

this house and also the firearms officer who actually acted in a way

:28:25.:28:28.

that he had been trained to, but probably never expected to and we

:28:29.:28:33.

owe him our thanks. The Prime Minister knows better than any of us

:28:34.:28:39.

that this sort of attack, it looks like a lone wolf kind of attack, is

:28:40.:28:45.

the hardest for our Security Services to prevent. Its prevention

:28:46.:28:52.

as her remarks have made clear, is best achieved by us celebrating our

:28:53.:28:56.

values. The values which meant that among the victims there were people

:28:57.:29:01.

of eleven different nationalities, our openness, our democracy, what

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can she do to help ensure that everybody in Britain, every child,

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everyone of every religion is given the opportunity to learn about those

:29:13.:29:17.

values and to celebrate them, because I think that's the best way

:29:18.:29:21.

to keep us safe. May I join the honourable lady in commending as she

:29:22.:29:27.

has said, the staff of Westminster Abbey, who played a role in

:29:28.:29:30.

supporting people from Parliament yesterday. But also she says the

:29:31.:29:37.

firearms officer. Who acted we know had to make a split second decision

:29:38.:29:42.

about what to do. It is not an easy job. It is difficult. They are

:29:43.:29:46.

trained to do it. But when the point comes, it is a difficult decision to

:29:47.:29:52.

take. But we are grateful that he did that and with the consequences

:29:53.:29:56.

that we know. It is important that we celebrate those values. That is

:29:57.:30:00.

an important element of us countering the extremist is to

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ensure that the values that we share are championed, but are resolutely

:30:07.:30:10.

put forward. It is for all of us, the honourable lady asks what I can

:30:11.:30:14.

would do, but actually I think it is for everybody in this House as we go

:30:15.:30:18.

about our business as members of Parliament to encourage that

:30:19.:30:21.

celebration of the values that we share. Can I commend my honourable

:30:22.:30:31.

friend for the resolute, brave and courageous way she stood up for our

:30:32.:30:36.

country and how proud we are of her. Does she a I degree with me that one

:30:37.:30:40.

-- agree with me that one terrorist will not destroy our country, ten

:30:41.:30:50.

thousand will not destroy our country, no amount of terrorists

:30:51.:30:53.

will ever destroy our way of life, because they're trying to destroy

:30:54.:30:58.

what we represent, freedom and democracy. My honourable friend is

:30:59.:31:03.

right, terrorism will not destroy our way of life. It will not win. We

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up hold those values and they underpin our way of life, they are

:31:11.:31:13.

what the terrorists are trying to attack. Ha the terrorists dislike,

:31:14.:31:21.

but we must ensure that we uphold those values and no number of

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terrorists will defeat this place or defeat those values. PC Keith Palmer

:31:26.:31:34.

didn't return home from work yesterday to his family, so the rest

:31:35.:31:38.

of us in this House could. We should never forget that sacrifice and

:31:39.:31:42.

every day we should pass our thanks to the staff, security of this House

:31:43.:31:46.

and the emergency services. And I wonder if I could ask the Prime

:31:47.:31:50.

Minister to join my in cherishing what happened here yesterday with

:31:51.:31:55.

staff coming to together, who were terrified and all supporting each

:31:56.:31:59.

other and in itself is way to say to terrorism that it will never win.

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No, I join the honourable gentleman in, as he says, I think the way that

:32:04.:32:08.

people came together, they showed that camaraderie and support each

:32:09.:32:16.

other at what was a difficult time. And that was a very important

:32:17.:32:22.

message to the terrorists. It is reported that what happened

:32:23.:32:26.

yesterday was an act of Islamic terror, will the Prime Minister

:32:27.:32:30.

agree with me that what happened was not Islamic, just as

:32:31.:32:43.

the murder of AirieN Neave was not Christian. Yes it is not Islamic, it

:32:44.:32:55.

is a perversion of a great faith. I would like to pay tribute to the

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Prime Minister and wish her well and the cabinet well. Can I echo

:33:03.:33:05.

everything that has been said about those who have been killed and their

:33:06.:33:11.

families and the victims. Can I ask the Prime Minister that every effort

:33:12.:33:16.

will be made to support the victims and their families and also the

:33:17.:33:20.

police officer whose role it was to stop the terrorist in the end? I can

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assure the honourable gentleman that that support will be available. Of

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course for those who have been affected by the attacks for those

:33:31.:33:34.

who have been injured and the bereaved families, the Metropolitan

:33:35.:33:38.

Police have already in place support arrangement necessary. But I have

:33:39.:33:42.

also asked government to look at what further support can be

:33:43.:33:45.

available for victims in a wider sense. There will be people who may

:33:46.:33:49.

not have been physically injured by the attack yesterday, but perhaps

:33:50.:33:54.

were caught up in it and for whom there may be other scars and it is

:33:55.:34:00.

important we provide that support. Parliament is a very different place

:34:01.:34:05.

this morning. Coming in I realised that millions of people live with

:34:06.:34:10.

the after effects of terrorism avp it was almost within the hour

:34:11.:34:14.

yesterday that in my summing up to the Foreign Office minister, I said

:34:15.:34:17.

I understand his experience of terrorism is something that is not

:34:18.:34:22.

known to the rest of us. I could repeat that assertion again this

:34:23.:34:25.

morning about his experience yesterday afternoon. Does the Prime

:34:26.:34:28.

Minister agree with me that we should use the honours system to

:34:29.:34:33.

recognise those people who made a contribution yesterday, including

:34:34.:34:38.

the member for Bournemouth east. As I have indicated, I think proper

:34:39.:34:42.

consideration will be given to the issue that my honourable friend

:34:43.:34:46.

raises. But if I may just say about my honourable friend the member for

:34:47.:34:51.

Bournemouth East, who I spoke to yesterday, I think we should all

:34:52.:34:57.

recognise that not only did he show huge professionalism in putting his

:34:58.:35:02.

past training to the use and the hope that he had of rescuing the

:35:03.:35:07.

life of PC Keith Palmer, but of course it was in the middle of a

:35:08.:35:14.

terrorist attack and he is somebody who knows the trauma and tragedy of

:35:15.:35:18.

losing somebody in a terrorist attack. I very much associate myself

:35:19.:35:25.

with the statement the Prime Minister and everyone has made. And

:35:26.:35:33.

pay tribute to all of those involved we. Atds the sister of a police

:35:34.:35:37.

officer -- as the sister of a police officer in uniform, none of us know

:35:38.:35:42.

when they go out in the morning what they're going to face. ? I have to

:35:43.:35:50.

say yesterday hit hard for those of us with family in uniform. I'm

:35:51.:35:58.

pleased she will giving help to those affected. When I was Home

:35:59.:36:03.

Secretary, there were two events that brought home the commitment and

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bravery and dedication of police officers, one was the national

:36:08.:36:11.

police service memorial day when the police recognise those who have

:36:12.:36:16.

fallen and the other was the police bravery awards when groups of police

:36:17.:36:19.

officers are recognised for brave acts they have undertaken. What

:36:20.:36:26.

always struck me and I'm sure other members was the matter of fact way

:36:27.:36:30.

in which our police officers would, whatever they had done, whoever they

:36:31.:36:37.

had dealt with, whatever action they had had to take, whatever injuries

:36:38.:36:41.

they had suffered would just say they were doing their job. We owe

:36:42.:36:48.

them a very great deal. Can I thank the Prime Minister for the tone with

:36:49.:36:53.

which she has reaebgted. She has spoken for the nation in this

:36:54.:36:58.

moment. Yesterday, many of us were gathered in Westminster Abbey, in

:36:59.:37:02.

lock down, in a stunning moment, people from left and right, people

:37:03.:37:13.

from Muslim, Hindu and Christian faiths and none. Could I support

:37:14.:37:20.

those who reminded us this is not a an act of faith, it is an act of

:37:21.:37:25.

distortion of faith and it we will defend the values we cherish. My

:37:26.:37:29.

honourable friend is right, I think it is, it shows the importance of

:37:30.:37:35.

all of our faiths working together and recognising the values that we

:37:36.:37:39.

share and as he says this act of terror was not an act of faith, it

:37:40.:37:45.

was an a perverse, a warped ideology, which leads to an act of

:37:46.:37:55.

terrorism and it will not prevail. My prayers are those who were

:37:56.:37:58.

injured and lost their lives and their family and particularly P

:37:59.:38:03.

xrchlt Keith Palmer, who made the ultimate accusifies. This attacker

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and -- that he had the ultimate sacrifice. This attacker is not of

:38:09.:38:13.

my religion or community and we should attack all those, because

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they're not of religion. If they were of religion they wouldn't be

:38:17.:38:21.

carrying acts like this. We have to stay united and show them they can't

:38:22.:38:25.

win on these grounds and we are here to stay. May I commend the

:38:26.:38:32.

honourable gentleman for comments he has made and the stance he has

:38:33.:38:36.

taken. He has been very clear that this is not of his religion. It is a

:38:37.:38:43.

perverse, it is a warped evil mentality that leads to these acts

:38:44.:38:51.

of terror. Could I join in saluting my honourable friend and fellow

:38:52.:38:56.

Dorset member for his bravery yesterday. It is a hall mark of his

:38:57.:39:03.

character, he stands below the bar of the house today. Would he agree

:39:04.:39:10.

with these words written by a worker on the London Underground yesterday

:39:11.:39:15.

and penned on a public notice board, my judgment is he or she speaks for

:39:16.:39:21.

the whole country, irrespective of faith and creed, all terrorists are

:39:22.:39:26.

reminded that this is London and whatever you do to us, we will drink

:39:27.:39:38.

tea and jolly well carry on! I think that is a wonderful tribute and if a

:39:39.:39:45.

very simple way I think has encapsulated everything everybody in

:39:46.:39:53.

this House has said today. Like many members I have walked through the

:39:54.:39:57.

carriage gate and said a small prayer for the safety of those who

:39:58.:40:01.

stand there to protect us and will now add a prayer for the soul of PC

:40:02.:40:08.

Keith Palmer. Among the bravery we saw yesterday and the

:40:09.:40:13.

professionalism and I say this as a former teacher, were the actions of

:40:14.:40:19.

the teacher, both nose those injured in the attack and those kept here in

:40:20.:40:24.

the lock down and kept those children calm on a day they saw,

:40:25.:40:29.

witnessed and heard of things that they should never have to see. The

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honourable gentleman is right, it is, it must have been particularly

:40:34.:40:36.

difficult for those children who were here and being caught up in

:40:37.:40:41.

this. The work of, we should commend the work of their teachers in

:40:42.:40:46.

offering them that reassurance and calm and recognise particularly the

:40:47.:40:50.

role of the French teachers, of the French group, the last thing you

:40:51.:40:55.

expect when you bring a group of young people to another country is

:40:56.:40:58.

something terrible like that is going to happen. Of course, they

:40:59.:41:03.

would have acted to support and will be continuing to support the other

:41:04.:41:07.

members of that group who have been through this trauma. As we were

:41:08.:41:15.

evacuated yesterday, I too met several school groups who had been

:41:16.:41:20.

involved with visits that had been organised by the Parliamentary

:41:21.:41:22.

education service. Does my honourable friend agree that such

:41:23.:41:32.

visits are vital and help provide an antidote to hatred. Yes and they're

:41:33.:41:37.

important in helping to promote the values we share. The honourable

:41:38.:41:41.

lady, the member for Slough asked me about how we can ensure we promote

:41:42.:41:46.

those values, I think that work that Parliament does in bringing in

:41:47.:41:48.

children and showing them the work of Parliament and values of our

:41:49.:41:52.

democracy is an important part of that. My thoughts are with PC

:41:53.:42:00.

Palmer's family and the families of all those who were victims of

:42:01.:42:05.

yesterday's terrorist attacks. We are so grateful to the emergency

:42:06.:42:10.

services and etch who protect -- everyone who protect us. The Prime

:42:11.:42:14.

Minister speaks for the whole country in her message of unity,

:42:15.:42:21.

does she agree with me that the painstaking work begins now for all

:42:22.:42:27.

of us in our constituencies in providing reassurances and

:42:28.:42:31.

maintaining that unity, because it is in the days after an vent like

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what's happened that we have to be vigilant against those who try to

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exploit these kinds of attacks and cause backlashes and intolerance

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against different communities. The role of the media is critical in

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ensuring that we maintain our resilience and that sense of

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definals -- defines and solidarity. The honourable lady is right, there

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is an immediate focus on the event, but of course as he says it is in

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the days after that some may try to sow hatred. I would like to thank

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the Prime Minister for h her statement and to offer condelenses

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to all affected. As a former armed forces family I know at this time it

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is more important to show our resolve. I also hope that we will

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continue to support alaffected -- all affected. Although trauma may

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not impact straight awashings -- away it may have long-term fbgts.

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Effects. The honourable lady makes a good point. Over time with a number

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of incidents we have come to learn more about the importance of

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providing that support, that is not just about an immediate reaction,

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but for some the impact of an attack can kick in quite a while later.

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That is why we are looking at the support that is available for

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victims. I commend my honourable friend's statement and hope she will

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agree that Britain's police force is the greatest in the world and for

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those of us who served as police officers, I pay tribute to PC Keith

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Palmer, who was stood serving this house unarmed when duty call and he

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paid the ultimate sacrifice. These lone wolf type attacks are difficult

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to defend against, what can be done to make sure this does not happen

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again? In terms of protective security, work will be done with the

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Parliamentary estate. But the best way of defeating terrorist is

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through intelligence and finding information about the potential for

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attacks taking place in advance and preventing them as I said, since

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June 2013, 13 plots have been disrupted. That is due to the hard

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work of the our police and security and intelligence agencies. They work

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day in and out to keep us safe and will continue to do so. I think

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everyone who works on the Parliamentary estate has considered

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what they would do if a day like yesterday ever happened. For those

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who work with families on site it is of particular concern. I wonder if

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the Prime Minister would join me in saying a specific word for the staff

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at the House of Commons nursery for their actions. Many can attest to

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looking after one toddler for a number of hours is not easy, but

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they looked after the children in difficult circumstances and kept in

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touch with some very worried parents. I was in the nursery during

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the lock down and their action was much appreciated. Very happy to join

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the honourable gentleman in commending the work of staff of the

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nursery. It must have been very difficult with young children in an

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uncertain and difficult circumstance. I'm sure they did an

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excellent job and I'm happy to join him in commending the work they did.

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I join in all the tributes that have been paid, those of us that were

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locked down will pay tribute to your deputy, the chairman of ways and

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means and the leader of the House for their keeping calm and carrying

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on and I would pay tribute to the Hansard reporters who recorded three

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hours after the business had finished up to the adjournment. That

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is a tribute to our democracy. I would join the honourable gentleman

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in commending the actions of both the chairman of way and mean and the

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leader of the house yesterday who I think calmly was able to reassure

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members at a time when nobody knew everything about what was happening.

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There was limited information available. Thank you Mr Speaker,

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yesterday, showed us the worst of humanity but it showed us more the

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best of humanity, whether that was the member from Bournemouth east or

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the action of PC Palmer or the firearms officer. I have been

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touched in the last two days by the number of people from my

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constituency who have contacted of me of Christian, Jewish and Muslim

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faith and of no faith and particularly I want to pay tribute

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to the chairman of the mosques in Leeds, who contacted me to say his

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thought and prayers and of all the community in Leeds are with all of

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us at this difficult time and there will be prayers across our country

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in the days ahead. I join trade, I think all faith communities across

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this country will be becoming together and will as she says, be

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remembering those who have suffered as a result of those attack and in

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their coming together ensuring that they again show how, because they

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do, they represent those values that we have talked about, that are so

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important to our way of life. The Prime Minister has been exemplary on

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this. As she was on Hillsborough. The member for Ribble Valley was

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right to Tay that Keith was one of us. One of the things we saw

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yesterday was that the Parliamentary family is a big family and includes

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cooks and cleaners and clerks and door keepers and people who make our

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democracy function, who are in my ways more important than we are. We

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have, when an MP dies in action, a shield is put up or when they're

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killed like Ian Gou in a terrorist incident, they have a shield put up

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and sadly I hope soon there will be one for Jo Cox. It is time, whatever

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tribute there is play be, in the future, Keith's, Keith had a shield

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in this chamber. Because he was our shield and defender yesterday. I say

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to the honourable gentleman I think it is appropriate that PC Keith

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Palmer for his bravery and his act of sacrifice should be recognised in

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an appropriate way. The honourable gentleman will realise what that is

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is a matter for the House authorities. Thank you, yesterday on

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Wembridge and in New Palace Yard many members of public attempted to

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give life saving aid to the injured. Many will have asked the question

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about whether we would have had the skills had we been there, will the

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Prime Minister join me in encouraging those who seek to

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acquire those skills to do and and perhaps contact the St John's

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ambulance. My friend makes a good point and I would join him in that

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encouragement. I think there are probably the vast majority of

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members of the House would not have had the skills to be able to act in

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that way. It is a good message that more of us should acquire the

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skills. The aim of any terrorist is to exploit the natural and

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inevitable sense of public interest and sympathy to sow disunity and

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disruption and fear beyond the act, the physical act of terror, in

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building on her commendable words about the resolution of British

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people, does she think that we should also take time to reflect in

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is in chamber and outside it, including in the media, about how we

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can balance the public interest and the people's feelings of grief with

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seeking not to give oxygen or pub lilsty -- publicity to whatever

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cause it is that a terrorist seeks to promote? It is, this question of

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oxygen of publicity is an important one and we should reflect on the

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points that the honourable gentleman has made. He references the actions

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of media. We shouldn't forget, we have talked about people who were

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caught up in this yesterday, there were many journalists who were

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caught up either on the periphery of the Parliamentary estate or in the

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Parliamentary estate and continuing and doing their best to do their job

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in reporting faithfully what was happening. But I think how these

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matters are addressed, how these matters are reported, is an

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important consideration, as he says, we want to ensure is not possible to

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use these actions to encourage others or to sow division. I would

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add my condolences and my gratitude tho those expressed. Yesterday two

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of my constituents were caught up in the attacks, one op whom was eight

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months pregnant and they have asked me to pass on their gratitude and

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thanks to the House staff and the police for the consideration with

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which they were treated during the five hour lock down. Would the Prime

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Minister agree with me that just as we go about continue to go about our

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daily work, so those we represent must continue to see this House as

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their House, and must be encouraged to come here to see and participate

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in the democracy which puts our values into action. I think that is

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a very important point. It is part of our democracy that members of

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public, that the constituents we represent, are able to come to this

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place and learn about this place and also are able to access their

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representatives at this place and we should ensure that will always

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continue. My honourable friend has mentioned the House of Commons staff

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who were showing exemplary behaviour and I wanted to pay tribute to the

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manager who dealt with nervous parents. It is every part's worst

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nightmare and they stayed calm under an attack. May I add that people who

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commit acts of terrorism in the name of Islam do not speak for the

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Muslims is in country or this city and do not speak for me. I'm

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grateful for her words. Again for the warm way in which she has spoken

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of the actions of the House of Commons staff who were looking after

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children. But she is right, the terrorists do not speak in the name

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of the faith. Never a warped ideology. The murder who used both

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his car and also a knife as weapons of murder yesterday care not what

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the faith of the people he killed was or the nationality. Doesn't it

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say everything about why our values will prevail and the values of

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murder will not, that after the police had shot him, they attempted

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to save his life? I think it does show those values that underpin our

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way of life. That that was, the first thought that they did try to

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save the individual's life. That is what the police do. It is what they

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have done in previous incidents as well. And as he says, I think that

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shows the values that are at the heart of our society. Can I commend

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the Prime Minister for her strength of character and for her leadership

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at this time cometh the hour, cometh the woman. We thank you and we thank

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you others. The Prime Minister, at this moment we are all aware of

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review that will take place, the policy review will make

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recommendations, could I ask Prime Minister what assurance, or seek an

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assurance they will be conveyed to the Scottish Parliament, the Welsh

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Assembly and the Irish Assembly and co-operation with the Irish

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republic. I thank the honourable gentleman for his comments. Any

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lessons learned here in this Parliamentary estate, we must

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recognise there are other representative bodies, Parliaments

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and Assemblies across the United Kingdom and of course it is

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important that we ensure those messages are shared. This morning I

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spoke with the Imam of my area who wanted to share his sorrow. Which

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will come away from that debate, MPs meeting determined to show their

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work will continue and the Prime Minister saying we are not afraid,

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our resolve will never waiver in the face of tomorrow. Terrorism. He

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described the attack yesterday, where the police officer was killed

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as an attack on free people. We saw the worst of humanity, but we will

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remember the best of humanity as well. She described PC Keith Palmer

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as every inch a hero. We have heard are that the queen has sent a

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statement. The Buckingham Palace said her thoughts, prayers and

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sympathies are with all those affected by yesterday's violence. We

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will bring you full coverage throughout the day from here in

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Westminster. Where we are at the edge of the police cordon. Many of

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the streets and key roads leading to the Palace of Westminster still

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closed this afternoon. You're watching BBC news.

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This is BBC News. I'm Ben Brown live at Westminster. As the Prime

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Minister says the man behind the terror attack here was British-born

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and known

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