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-THIS PROGRAMME CONTAINS -OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE. | 0:00:00 | 0:00:02 | |
-We're in Rochdale to meet -a Welshman who moved to the town... | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
-..to live amongst -the Muslim community. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
-It's like returning to Pakistan. -People from the same background. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
-Hate crimes against people -of Islamic faith are increasing... | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
-..and tensions here -are simmering under the surface. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
-I don't like seeing girls -with their faces covered up. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:27 | |
-With immigration causing splits -in communities across Britain... | 0:00:27 | 0:00:32 | |
-..tonight we take an unique look -at the call to prayer in Rochdale. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
-Rochdale, in the shadow -of the Pennines, near Manchester. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
-The town has become a destination... | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
-..for Asian -and Eastern European immigrants. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
-It's home to a Muslim family -of Pakistani descent... | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
-..which moved from Caernarfon. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
-It's an ideal place. -Everyone here is friendly. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
-Basically, you'll see more -Pakistanis, Bengalis, Africans here. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:23 | |
-There's a community of Muslims -all together here. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
-Waseem Khan works in a call centre -selling mobile phone plans... | 0:01:30 | 0:01:35 | |
-..whilst also studying -at a local college. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
-His Pakistani background -is important to him. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
-People move to Rochdale, -to Manchester or wherever... | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
-..they've come from Pakistan, -from Bangladesh... | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
-..they've settled here, -their children have settled here. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
-Basically, first, second generation, -third generation. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
-The lineage starts somewhere. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
-If you're Pakistani, -you've come from Pakistan. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
-When you have children here... | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
-..they'll grow up here. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
-They're part of Rochdale. -If that's how you see it. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
-Waseem moved here three years ago -along with his family... | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
-..so that his sisters could have -their education in a Muslim school. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:26 | |
-Where are you from? | 0:02:26 | 0:02:27 | |
-Where are you from? - -Wales. North Wales. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
-My father-in-law's from Wales. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
-My father-in-law's from Wales. - -In North Wales? | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
-I can't pronounce it. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:35 | |
-I can't pronounce it. - -Machynlleth. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:36 | |
-I can't pronounce it. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:37 | |
-I can't pronounce it. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:38 | |
-As immigration has increased, so has -the number of Islamic prayer houses. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
-There are more mosques in Rochdale, -than there is, I'd say... | 0:02:44 | 0:02:50 | |
-..in Caernarfon, Bangor, -Llandudno, Rhyl... | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
-..40, 50-mile radius -from Caernarfon. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
-You have one here -and another just down the road. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
-There's another 100 metres away. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
-You have three literally in -a two, three hundred-metre distance. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
-The Golden Mosque -stands in the middle of Rochdale. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
-It's one of the largest in the town. -800 Muslims can worship here. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
-Muslims pray five times a day. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
-Fajr, Dhuhr, Asr, Maghrib, Isha'a. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
-We're going in to see Asr now. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
-Before worshipping, Muslims wash -so that they are clean before God. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
-The basis of Waseem's faith -is the Qur'an... | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
-..an instruction -on how to live life. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
-You get a manual for a car... | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
-..you get manual on how to use -a microwave or a fridge. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
-No-one knows how to use it. -The first person doesn't know. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
-This is a manual for life. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
-There's nothing bad in it. There -are English copies of it everywhere. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:58 | |
-It's the miracle. It teaches you -how to live your life. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
-How our prophets, -how Muhammad lived his life too. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
-That's what that is? | 0:04:07 | 0:04:08 | |
-That's what that is? - -Yeah. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:09 | |
-In the mosque, -Waseem wears Muslim clothes. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
-He's more comfortable doing that -here than he was in Caernarfon. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
-If you wore Pakistani clothes -in Caernarfon or Bangor... | 0:04:25 | 0:04:30 | |
-..people would stare at you. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
-Here, they don't. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
-Basically, it's the normal thing. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
-As Pakistanis -living in Caernarfon... | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
-..there were people from Pakistan -there you could speak to... | 0:04:42 | 0:04:47 | |
-..about things -you wanted to speak about. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
-If you move here, it's like -you've returned to Pakistan. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:56 | |
-Your people are here, -people from the same background. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:01 | |
-And stuff like that. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:03 | |
-15% of Rochdale's population -are of Asian descent. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
-Waseem feels -that they are targets for racists. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
-The people who live here, -who've moved from another country... | 0:05:16 | 0:05:23 | |
-..wearing different clothes... | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
-..they get racial abuse from people. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
-White people -tell the brown and black people... | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
-..to return to their countries. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
-Just because they wear -different clothes... | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
-..they wear a scarf across their -faces, they're treated differently. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
-Rochdale has a long history -of accepting immigrants. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
-They've contributed -to thriving businesses in the town. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:01 | |
-Co-operation -is part of Rochdale's DNA. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
-The Co-operative institution -was formed in the town in the 18thC. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
-The fabric mills -attracted thousands of workers here. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
-It was one of the first -industrial towns. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
-John Jones has also moved -to Rochdale from Wales. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
-He moved here with his wife -from Bethesda 30 years ago. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
-He worked for Rochdale Council. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
-He says poverty has gripped -the town for many years. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
-The old places were pulled down -and new factories were built. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:40 | |
-Some workers -only have a zero hours contract. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
-That doesn't help people -hoping to improve their lives. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:49 | |
-He says immigration -has increased beyond all reason... | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
-..over the past few years. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
-That's contributed -to the town's decline. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
-Over the past seven or eight years, -more and more have moved in. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
-We're surrounded -by charity shops and takeaways. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
-They don't employ local staff... | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
-..or contribute greatly -to the local community. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
-I worked with people from Pakistan -and they were experienced workers... | 0:07:19 | 0:07:26 | |
-..and it was very nice -to work with them... | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
-..but a large percentage -of the population... | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
-..they don't speak English, -they still don't speak English... | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
-..and keep themselves -to themselves. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
-That's fine if that's what they -want but it doesn't help the town... | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
-..to become more inclusive. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
-According to John, -the character of some areas... | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
-..has changed dramatically as Asian -people have moved there to live. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
-There's a primary school -on the left. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
-I don't think there are -any white children in the school. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
-I'd like to see more integration -in schools. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
-It's difficult. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
-The local community -needs the school there. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
-Only those children go there. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
-I don't know if I'd be happy -to have my children in that school. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:24 | |
-I don't know. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:25 | |
-Rochdale is -a culturally diverse town. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
-35 different religions -are practised here. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
-From a population of 210,000... | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
-..most, 190,000, were born -in Great Britain and Ireland. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
-10,000 were born in Pakistan. -4,000 are Polish. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
-The last Census shows Christianity -as Rochdale's primary religion. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
-60% claimed to be Christians. -19% said they were Muslims. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
-In specific neighbourhoods such as -this one in the heart of Rochdale... | 0:09:10 | 0:09:15 | |
-..over 50% say they are Muslims. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
-Over the past few years, right-wing -groups have been active in Rochdale. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
-They claim that multi culturalism -is creating a split in society. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:30 | |
-Have you seen tensions -within communities? | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
-Oh, yes. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
-Like what then? | 0:09:35 | 0:09:36 | |
-Like Asian people fighting. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
-We've seen two Asians -fighting on the trams a month ago. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:49 | |
-Are there tensions? | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
-Sometimes it happens -but mostly, everyone is fine. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
-What kind of things can happen? | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
-Fights and stuff. Sometimes you -get people shouting racist slurs. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
-Once in a blue moon it'll happen. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
-I am not against immigration -at all... | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
-..because they have got -a right to have a life as well... | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
-..but we are suffering. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
-Rochdale is one of the most -impoverished towns in Britain. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
-Over a third of the population -live in poverty. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
-9% are unemployed and one in four -households claim housing benefit. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:25 | |
-It's mostly because of the houses, -there's not enough houses. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
-There's not enough jobs. Everyone -I've spoke to, that's their opinion. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:35 | |
-Immigration is the reason? | 0:10:35 | 0:10:36 | |
-Immigration is the reason? - -Yeah. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:37 | |
-All the foreigners are taking -the houses. I can't even get one. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
-I've been homeless for two years -sleeping on people's couches. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
-There are a thousand asylum seekers -in Rochdale. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
-John Jones says immigration has -placed unfair pressure on Rochdale. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
-There needs to be a system -where they are taught English... | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
-..a system where work -is available to them... | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
-..and a system to ensure -they have somewhere to live. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
-You don't want to create ghettos. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
-That's the danger - -creating ghettos. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
-That won't benefit the town - it'll -turn people against each other. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:22 | |
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-THIS PROGRAMME CONTAINS -OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
-Waseem Khan lives in Rochdale -near Manchester. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
-He's a Muslim of Pakistani descent. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
-He was born and raised -in Caernarfon. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
-We're off to Bangor today, -to visit the mosque. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
-We'll meet Connor, -one of my mates from Caernarfon. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
-Something that worries Waseem, -along with many other Muslims... | 0:11:53 | 0:11:58 | |
-..is the way the media -portrays Islam. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
-In the news, in the papers. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
-A newspaper's job is to... | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
-..brainwash people. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
-That's what I think, -brainwash people. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
-They criticise Islam -as much as they can. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
-They're directing hate -at people like me. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
-They paint us all -with the same brush. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
-They say we're all the same. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
-If one Muslim -does something wrong... | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
-..apparently, all of us do it. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
-He returns to North Wales -about three times a year... | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
-..to visit family and friends -who still live there. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
-Connor. OK, mate? | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
-How are you? Not bad. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
-Connor Holmes -is one of Waseem's best friends. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
-Sport brought them together in -Ysgol Syr Hugh Owen in Caernarfon. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
-How are things in Rochdale? | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
-How are things in Rochdale? - -It's OK. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:01 | |
-Same old same old. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
-The fact that Waseem is a Muslim -has never bothered Connor. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
-We'd been friends for six months -and I went to get a sandwich. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:15 | |
-He told me he couldn't eat the meat -because it had to be Halal. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
-He explained to me why. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
-After that, -I slowly learnt more about it. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
-It didn't change him as a person. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
-I didn't know anything -when I met him. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
-It doesn't make any difference. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
-It doesn't matter what someone does -behind closed doors. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
-He doesn't harm anyone -doing what he does. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
-It's up to him, he leads a peaceful -life. He's still the same person. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
-Islam is the world's -fastest-growing religion. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
-The number of people -from different backgrounds... | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
-..being attracted to Islam -is also increasing. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
-People think -that all Muslims are Asians. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
-It's not only Asians, -it's whatever you see. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
-It doesn't matter which country -you visit, there are Muslims there. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:09 | |
-The difference between you -is your culture. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
-Times change, Islam is spreading. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
-Wales is home to 46,000 Muslims. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
-Islam is the country's -second largest religion. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
-In Bangor's mosque, -500 regularly worship. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
-Waseem's uncle, Miraz Khan, -is an Imam in the mosque. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
-Everything OK, was the trip OK? -Family OK and everything, yes? | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
-Waseem's grandfather helped build -the mosque back in 1985. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:52 | |
-The Imam says everyone -is welcome there. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
-Last month, -they held a public open day. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
-It was something that started -in early-2010... | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
-..to try and remove the barriers -that exist... | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
-..which unfortunately started -in 2001 with 9/11. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
-We opened our mosque -from eleven until five on Sunday. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
-Hamdullah, all thanks to God, -we had over 150 people here. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:28 | |
-It was a really good day. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
-We were shocked with the numbers. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
-We wanted to get the message out -that we're just people like you. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
-However, he still thinks -a fear factor exists in Britain... | 0:15:37 | 0:15:42 | |
-..due to rising immigration and -a misunderstanding about Muslims. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:47 | |
-We've been so welcoming -to people who've come here... | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
-..that might result in -more people moving here. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
-Like everything else, -it needs to be controlled. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
-If there are no controls, these -things will happen unfortunately. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
-People will start coming here -for the wrong reasons. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
-Unfortunately, -there is a fear factor. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
-In 2015, -Greater Manchester Police... | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
-..dealt with one racially-motivated -hate crime every three hours. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
-Since then, -the situation has deteriorated. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
-There was an increase -in hate crimes... | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
-..in the three months -following the Brexit vote. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
-The worst area in terms of numbers -was the Metropolitan Police area. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
-The second worst -was the Manchester Police area... | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
-..which includes Rochdale, -with over 1,000 incidents. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
-Adnan Mashrur -was the victim of one such crime. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
-A student in Bradford, he travels -home every weekend to work. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
-Late one Friday, -he caught a tram in Rochdale... | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
-..on the last leg -of his journey home. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
-The tram was pulling up -to the tram spot. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
-A lad was walking -alongside the tram... | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
-..swearing at me through the window. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
-You fuckin' twat, you Paki bastard. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
-I can't remember fully but those -are some of the words I remember. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
-When the tram stopped, the situation -went from bad to worse. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:22 | |
-I asked him, "What's your problem?" -He pushed me and hit me. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
-I fell off the tram at the time. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
-As I fell off the tram, the tram -drove off and we got into a fight. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
-About 30 seconds later, -I looked to the right. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:39 | |
-I seen about eight, nine other lads. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
-After that, I just got hit -and I don't remember much from that. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
-The crew hit him -until he was unconscious. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
-They broke his nose -and he was covered in bruises. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
-The police are continuing -with their inquiries... | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
-..but no arrests have been made. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
-It's upsetting -because it was down to the fact... | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
-..that I'm Asian. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
-I'm a different skin colour. -There's nothing more to it. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
-I've never met the guys before, -I don't know who they are. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
-Last May, during the -European Union referendum... | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
-..60% of people in Rochdale -voted for Brexit. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
-John and Morfudd Jones have lived -in Rochdale for 30 years. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
-They also voted to leave. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
-Why? | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
-Why? - -People are moving in here... | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
-..and it's free -for anyone to move here. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
-Enoch Powell once said -that whenever you open a door... | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
-..you'll never close it. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
-Before retiring, Morfudd and her -husband worked for Rochdale Council. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:55 | |
-The area where they bought -their first house... | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
-..has been completely transformed -by now. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
-There's no community -at all there now. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
-As I was saying, -Asians have bought every house. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
-According to the 2011 Census, -there's been a dramatic rise... | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
-..over the last decade -in immigration from overseas. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
-The number of people from Pakistani -descent has increased almost 50%. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
-I don't like seeing girls -with their faces covered up. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
-Why? | 0:19:31 | 0:19:32 | |
-They scare me and I don't know why. -I like seeing someone's face. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
-I wouldn't want to tell them -they had to remove them. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
-I have no right to do that. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
-They say that there's -a strong feeling locally... | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
-..that families of Asian descent -are favoured over local people. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
-There definitely is, of some kind. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
-There's hatred towards them and -there's a feeling in some places... | 0:19:54 | 0:20:00 | |
-..that they're treated -more fairly than us. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
-I don't feel that personally -but I see it happen. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
-It's Saturday night in Rochdale. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
-Waseem's meeting two of his cousins -for supper. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:27 | |
-You know where it is? | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
-Straight down. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
-Shuaib Khan also moved -from Caernarfon to Rochdale... | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
-..to work for -a technology company in Wigan. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
-Plenty to do. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
-There are a lot of restaurants. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
-Halal too, so it's ideal. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
-You don't miss Caernarfon? | 0:20:54 | 0:20:55 | |
-You don't miss Caernarfon? - -Miss my friends more than anything. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
-Friends and family. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:00 | |
-Tonight, they're visiting Eastern -restaurant in the Spotland area. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
-Saeed Ahmed, Waseem's other cousin, -moved here from Hong Kong... | 0:21:07 | 0:21:12 | |
-..just over a year ago, -to study and work. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
-All three voted -in the Brexit referendum. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
-Do you worry about Brexit, -what happens with Brexit? | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
-What was your take on it? | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
-I voted out. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
-You wanted out, yeah, -I remember you voted out. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
-Did you vote out too? | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
-Did you vote out too? - -No. I voted in. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
-Did you watch the news? -Some immigrants voted out. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
-From Pakistan. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
-A lot from Rochdale. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
-A lot of people, Asian people... | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
-..Pakistanis and Bengalis -voted out. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
-Waseem believes the real reason -many voted to leave... | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
-..is jealousy towards immigrants. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
-Jealousy. -They went to school, didn't do well. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
-They went to high school -and didn't do well. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
-They went to college -and didn't do well. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
-They blame them -for their disappointment in life. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
-He says that immigration -is healthy... | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
-..and crucial to attract -the right people here to work. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
-If you go to hospital, -if you go to Ysbyty Gwynedd... | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
-..if you go to hospital -in Rochdale.. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
-..most staff come -from outside the UK. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
-India, Pakistan, Africans. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
-Anywhere besides UK. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
-They're educated. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
-More than us, I'd say, -more than people in the UK. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:45 | |
-Waseem hopes for a job in education -after completing his studies. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
-He wants people to see the person -beyond the religion... | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
-..and the scaremongering -about Islam. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
-I live in the UK, -I live in Manchester. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
-I'm a normal person. -I work, I go to the gym. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
-Socialising. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:05 | |
-So, yeah, -I'm nothing to do with terrorism. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
-Islam is nothing -to do with terrorism. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
-Next week we visit one of Britain's -busiest emergency departments. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:19 | |
-71 patients in the department. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
-That's a lot at this time. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
-With waiting times higher than ever, -we hear from the patients. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:29 | |
-I dread to think -about a family member in A&E. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
-I don't think they're coping, -it's dangerous. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
-It's like a warzone. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
-It's like a warzone. - -Y Byd ar Bedwar, next Tuesday night. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
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