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18/03/2017

Bethan Lewis and Vaughan Roderick introduce coverage of the Conservative Spring Forum in Cardiff, including the speech by party leader Andrew RT Davies.


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The Conservatives have been in power at Westminster for seven years and

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their next target here in Wales making games at the local elections

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in May. Welcome to Conference 2017. Good afternoon.

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Welcome to the third of our Spring party political conference

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programmes. We have already heard from Plaid Cymru and the Welsh

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Liberal Democrats but over the last couple of days it is the Welsh

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Conservatives who have been getting together in Cardiff and you can see

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the latest developments and comment on Twitter. As always our Welsh

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affairs editor is here to guide us through the afternoon. What will the

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party be looking to get out of this conference? There are a number of

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things. This is a combined conference, it is the Welsh spring

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conference and also the UK party's spring Forum and it is a platform

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for UK issues as well as Welsh issues but the main thing they will

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be hoping for is to turn the page on what has been an awful week for the

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Conservatives, with Nicola Sturgeon really outmanoeuvring the government

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at the beginning of the week by announcing a second independence

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referendum, that you turn from Phillip Hammond over the National

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Insurance contributions in the budget and that fine from the

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Electoral Commission about the election expenses. A grim week that

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they will want to forget about and get on to different subjects. A lot

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of what was said was seen through the prism of the developments

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regarding a second referendum on independence. The government agenda

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was way off course this week. There is no doubt that the plan for this

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conference was the plan you will see on the slogan behind the Prime

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Minister in a little while, a plan for Britain. It was going to be

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about a plan for Britain after the moving of Article 50, instead they

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have had to scramble and respond to what the British Government has been

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doing. Plenty more from Vaughan later. Now the main event was the

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Prime Minister's speech, it has been a challenging week for Theresa May,

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the second referendum on independence for Scotland, the

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U-turn in her own government over National Insurance but this was a

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speech to the party faithful. Theresa May began her speech by

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referring to this. Bringing these two events together reminds us once

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again that we are and always will be the Conservative and Unionist party.

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APPLAUSE. The only party today that represents and delivers for every

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part of this precious United Kingdom. I would like to thank Alun

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Cairns for that introduction. He is a determined and passionate

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campaigner for Wales is interest in Whitehall, always standing up for a

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Welsh interesting government and speaking up for this great nation at

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the Cabinet table. I would also like to pay tribute to the work of the

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Conservative group in the National Assembly, particularly to its leader

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Andrew R T Davies. APPLAUSE. The clearest and without

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doubt the loudest voice at Cardiff Bay, doing the important work of

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holding the Labour government to account. And thank you, to you,

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also, for all the work that you do for our party here in Wales. Thanks

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to you, some of our party 's best result at the last General Election

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were achieved right here. In the north, James Davies taking the seat

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from Labour. In mid Wales, Chris Davies taking the seat from the

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Liberal Democrats. In this city, Craig Williams holding Cardiff North

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with a majority more than ten times greater than we achieved in 2010.

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And in the South West, Byron Davies becoming the first Conservative MP

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for Gower in its 100 of history. APPLAUSE.

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130 year history. People said we could not win here again. But you

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prove them wrong. And today we are winning in Wales once again. And

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people said the same elsewhere as well. They said we could not win in

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the north of England, but tell that to the voters of Copeland and there

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are new brilliant member of Parliament, Trudy Harris!

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APPLAUSE. This is the modern Conservative Party. Reaching out to

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all parts of the country and winning in all parts of the country. A party

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that works for everyone, not just the privileged few. And right across

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Great Britain, on the 4th of May, people will go to the polls to

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decide who they want to run their local services, care for the local

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environment and said the council tax they pay. In Scotland and here in

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Wales, there will be all out collections in every single local

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authority. In England, as well as County Council and unitary authority

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elections, some of our great cities of the areas around them will choose

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a powerful new Mayers. As a party. We go into these important

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elections, confident about the job we can do to serve local people and

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local communities. From Cardiff to the Cairngorms, from Dover to

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Darren, people are looking for a party with a plan to secure a better

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future, a better future for their town or city, their county and their

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country. And our task as Conservatives is clear. We must work

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to be that party. In local elections across Great Britain, that means

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being the party that sets out the credible and compelling case to keep

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council tax low, for a more effective and efficient local

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services and for more responsive representation. In the elections for

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new Mayors, our candidates, James Palmer in the Cambridge and

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Petersburg, to go cold air in Liverpool city region, and Tim Veldt

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in the West of England, they must be the candidate pointing the way for a

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better quality of life, greater social, cultural and economic

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opportunities and a more prosperous future for local people with a plan

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to deliver. And as Her Majesty's government of the UK, responding to

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and delivering on the decision of the British people to leave the

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European Union and embark on a new global role, our task is clearer

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still. It is to use this moment of opportunity to shape a brighter

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future for Britain. It is to use this period of change to step back

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and ask ourselves what kind of country we want to be. And it is to

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use the years ahead to deliver an ambitious programme of economic and

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social reform that prepares Britain for the brighter future and ensures

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we emerge stronger, fairer, more united and more outward looking than

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ever before. And that is why, today, I want to talk to you about this

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government's plan for Britain. A plan for Britain that will guide our

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policies and actions, a plan for Britain that will deliver a

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stronger, fairer country, for we stand on the threshold of one of the

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most significant moments Britain has known for many years. During the

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next two weeks, we will trigger Article 50 and begin negotiations to

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secure the United Kingdom's departure from the European Union.

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APPLAUSE. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE.

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And it is at such moments, great national moments that define the

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character of a nation, we have a choice. We can look forward with

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optimism and hope or give in to the politics of fear and despair. I

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choose to believe in Britain and that our best days lie ahead.

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Because while the road before us may be uncertain at times, I believe,

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with the British people, that it leads towards a brighter future for

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our nation's children and grandchildren. That brighter future

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will not just happened. The stronger fairer country we want will not just

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emerge, it will take effort and focus, discipline and hard work. And

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above all, it requires that we set out and deliver on a plan. So our

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plan for Britain is a plan for a brighter future, a plan to make the

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most of the opportunities ahead and to build a stronger, fairer Britain

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that is more united and more outward looking, a plan to get the right

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deal for Britain abroad, yes, but also a better deal for ordinary

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working people here at home. That is crucial. For the referendum result

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is not just a vote to leave the European Union, it was an

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instruction, to change the way our country works and the people for

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whom it works, for ever. It was a call to change the balance of

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Britain, to make this great United Kingdom a country that works for

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everyone, not just the privileged few. We, the Conservative Party

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understand that and we, the Conservative Party, will respond. We

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will get the right deal for Britain abroad, forging a new partnership

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with our friends and allies in Europe but looking beyond Europe, to

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build relationships with the new friends and new allies and old

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friends around the world as well. At the same time, we will pursuit the

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ambitious economic and social reforms we need to make Britain work

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for working people. That means building a stronger economy and

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investing in the things that will deliver for Britain in the long

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term. Tackling the problem of low productivity and helping to secure

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the high-paid, high skilled jobs of the future. It means creating a

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fairer society, as we break down the barriers of privilege and spread

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opportunity and prosperity around the country. It means forging Aomori

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United Nations as we put the values of fairness, responsibility and

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citizenship at the heart of everything we do. It means building

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a stronger, fairer Britain that our children and grandchildren will be

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proud to call home. From the start, the Britain we build as we leave the

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EU must be a truly global Britain. A Britain that is outward looking and

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embraces the world. Because the vote to leave the European Union was not

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about to turn our backs on our international role or abandon our

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international outlook, Britain at its best has always been a great,

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global trading nation. We have always been shaped by and have

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helped to shape global events. We are one of the world's largest

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economies with strong and fruitful relationships with countries around

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the world. Those cooperative and open-hearted relationships are vital

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to our future success as we leave the EU, we will embrace the world

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and build a global outward looking Britain, that is a confident, and

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responsible player on the world stage. Of course that means getting

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on with the job of delivering Brexit, striking the right deal for

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Britain or that build a new partnership with Europe and we have

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been clear about our negotiating objectives, certainty, wherever

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possible, control of our own laws, strengthening the United Kingdom,

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maintaining the Common travel area with Ireland, control of

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immigration, writes for EU nationals in Britain and it is nationals in

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the EU, enhancing rights for workers, free trade with European

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markets, new trade agreements with other countries, a leading role in

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science and innovation, co-operation on crime, terrorism and other

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affairs and a phased approach, delivering a smooth and orderly

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Brexit. 12 objectives, that amount to one big goal, a new positive and

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constructive partnership between Britain and the European Union. But

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a global Britain, also means making the Britain that emerges from the

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EU, the leading advocate of global free trade and promoting and

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defending the forces of economic liberalism which have such an

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overwhelmingly positive impact on our world. It means, as I say,

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building and strengthening our relationships with old friends and

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new allies, getting out and doing business right across the globe. And

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that is what the Department for International Trade has been doing

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since it was set up last summer, building up our capability and

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readiness for that new global role and promoting British goods and

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services around the globe. It means continuing to attract the brightest

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and the best to work or study in Britain but ensuring that process is

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managed properly so that our immigration system serves the

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national interest. Continuing to meet our commitments

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to the world's poor and support developing countries, making the

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world a safer place for everyone, and supporting our armed forces as

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they keep our country safe and secure. Britain is one of the few

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nations anywhere in the world to meet its UN aid target and Nato

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defence target. That is a global Britain of which we can all be

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proud. Our success as a global Britain will be underpinned by the

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second objective of our plan for Britain, a stronger economy where

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everyone plays by the same rules. We have achieved a lot of the last six

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years to fix the economic mess left by labour and restore our public

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finances. The deficit has been reduced and the economy has grown.

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In 2010 the UK borrowed ?1 in ?5. This year it will be ?1 in every

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play ?15. Working with business leaders across the country we have

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delivered a record number of jobs giving more people in our country

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economic security and peace of mind for their families. We have taken

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the lowest paid out of tax altogether and put on the national

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Living Wage so that people who work hard every day and often arduous

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jobs can enjoy a better standard of living. There is still so much more

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to do. Our plan for Britain will continue to bring the deficit down

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so the country lives within its means. We will take a balanced

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approach a loving us to invest where it is needed, like the ?2 billion of

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additional money for adult social care we announced last week. Whether

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it will make the difference for Britain in the long-term, like the

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?500 million a year we committed in the budget to bring genuinely

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world-class technical education to Britain for the first time. This

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funding will help to increase the amount of technical training by 50%

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and includes a high-quality three month work placement for every

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student. It means that when they qualify they will be genuinely work

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ready. It means we will be taking technical education seriously and

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giving at the parity of esteem it deserves as we roll out our

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industrial strategy towards all parts of the country. That strategy

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will encourage and support the key sectors of our economy, provide more

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opportunities for young people to find high-quality high skilled work

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and spread opportunity and prosperity around the whole of the

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country. This approach has been welcomed by sectors across the

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economy and I look forward to publishing our White Paper later

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this year. To build a stronger economy that works for everyone

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government must support competitive markets and an open economy. That

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means recognising where markets are not working for customers and being

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ready to step in on their behalf so that consumers get a fair deal. One

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market that is manifestly not working for all consumers of the

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energy market. Energy is not a luxury, it is a necessity of life,

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and it is clear to me and anyone that looks at it that the market is

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not working as it should. Prices have risen by 150% of the last 15

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years and ordinary working families are finding they are spending more

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of their take-home pay on heating and lighting needs month. The vast

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majority of consumers, especially those with the lowest incomes, are

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on the most expensive tariffs. Relying on switching alone to keep

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prices down is clearly not working. Our party did not end the unjust and

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inefficient monopolies of the energy corporations to replace it with a

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system that traps the poorest customers on the worst deals. We are

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looking closely at how we can address this problem and ensure a

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fair deal for everyone and we will set out plans very soon. This is the

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government on the side of working people, acting to repair a broken

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consumer markets to improve the spending power of people who are

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just about managing with everyday costs and bills. It is the job of

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government to act in the national interest and to protect the people.

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To crack down on individuals and businesses that abuse the system so

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that everyone, however big or small, plays by the same rules, and that is

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the fairer Britain we are building. A Britain where worker's rights are

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enhanced. Under this government they will be extended and never

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diminished insuring that in a modern flexible economy people are properly

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protected at work will also be a priority and that is why we have

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commissioned Matthew Taylor to lead a review into the rights and

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protections bebop having worked in the new modern economy so we can be

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certain employment regulation and practices are keeping pace with the

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changing world of work. The Conservative Party is the party of

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workers, consumers, responsible businesses, with a plan to build a

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stronger economy for all. The third objective of our plan is to build a

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fairer society where success is based on merit not privilege. We

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have started to rebalance our society in favour of ordinary

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working people. Our plans for housing will deliver 1 million more

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homes so more people can afford their own home while ensuring the

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housing market is fear to those who own their home and those who do not.

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Action to help those renting as well as buying. We will continue to be

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rigged investment into the NHS, to help people at every stage of their

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life. We will help people who can work get back into employment so

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that they can benefit from a happier healthier and more productive life.

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Our welfare system is fear to those who need it and fear to those who

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pay for it -- fair. We need to go further than trying Britain into a

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great meritocracy where success is defined by work and talent not birth

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or circumstance. Our plan for Britain mould provide a good school

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place for every child. That allows them to reach their full potential

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eye. We will support existing state schools to do even better through

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sponsorship of universities in collaboration with the independent

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sector we will help schools to expand and do something else no

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government has done for generations. We will extend to the children of

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working class families the same opportunities enjoyed by the

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children of the well-off by ending the ban on new academically

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selective schools in England. These new schools will face rigorous

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requirements to ensure that as well as giving greater opportunities to

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their students they support their neighbouring nonselective schools to

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do the best buy beers. There will be no return to the binary model of the

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past but moving into an egalitarian future where the opportunity to

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receive the education that suits a child best is within reach of every

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one of our society and not just the privileged few. Being a government

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at the service of the people means taking action on the issues that

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concern them. Not thinking we know best and turning a blind eye to

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their concerns but listening and responding to what people want. So

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we will take control of immigration and make sure the immigration system

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works in the national interest. We will welcome immigrants to make a

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valued the necessary contribution to our economy and society but we will

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once again have control of the system and manage it according to

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our needs. At the same time we take action to address people's

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legitimate concerns about immigration we will be understanding

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and our determination to tackle the historic injustices like racial and

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gender discrimination that hold too many people in our society back.

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The Britain we will build must be country where everyone has an equal

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chance to succeed and we're getting on in life is dependent on talent

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and hard work, not background or connections. Our party should aspire

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to be the servant and voice of hard-working and patriotically urges

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people of every social class and race, any religion and nine, women

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and men, gay and straight, young and old, we are union of people bound

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together by injuring common interests and all are respected and

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welcome in our party -- enduring. Because everything I have been

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talking about today adds up to the overarching goal of our plan for

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Britain, the creation of a more United Nations that our children and

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grandchildren a protocol home. Our party believes heart and soul in our

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United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The pressures bond

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between four nations, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern

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Ireland. That union is more than just a constitutional artefact. It

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is a union between all of our citizens whoever we are and wherever

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we are from. So our plan for Britain will put strengthening and

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sustaining that union at its heart. It means taking the big decisions

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when they are the right one for Britain in the long term. The team

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national interest above any other consideration. And ensuring that we

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act in the interests of the whole country creating jobs and supporting

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communities across our United Kingdom. It has always been the

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special mission of our Conservative Party to be the true National Party

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in Britain, to aspire to represent all of the country and all of the

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people and today our goal must be nothing less because we are the

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party of the new centre ground of British politics, rejecting the

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extremes of Labour's socialist left, Ukip's libertarian right and the

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divisive and obsessive nationalisms of Plaid Cymru and the SNP. We have

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seen that tunnel vision on display again this week. The SNP argue that

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we should break up the UK because we are leaving the EU. But three years

:26:31.:26:36.

ago they campaigned on a result that would have taken Scotland out of the

:26:37.:26:40.

EU altogether. They are happy to see power rests in Brussels but if those

:26:41.:26:45.

powers come back to London they want them given to Edinburgh so they can

:26:46.:26:47.

try to give them back to Brussels. They apparently see an independent

:26:48.:27:03.

Scotland would no longer seek to become a member of the EU after a

:27:04.:27:10.

vote. The fact that more Scottish voters backed Scotland staying in

:27:11.:27:14.

the UK in 2014 than supported the UK staying in the EU in 2016 and that

:27:15.:27:22.

almost half a million independent supporters backed Brexit last year

:27:23.:27:27.

seems to count for nothing. It is clear that using Brexit is the

:27:28.:27:30.

pretext of engineer and a second independence referendum has been the

:27:31.:27:35.

SNP's sole objective of since last June. It would be bad for Scotland,

:27:36.:27:41.

bad for the United Kingdom and bad for us all. The coming negotiations

:27:42.:27:47.

with the EU will be vital for everyone in the United Kingdom.

:27:48.:27:54.

Every person, every family, business, community, the length and

:27:55.:27:58.

breadth of the UK, England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland.

:27:59.:28:02.

It is essential we get the right deal and all of our efforts and

:28:03.:28:06.

energies of the country are focused on that outcome. We can only get

:28:07.:28:11.

that deal if we are united as one United Kingdom, all pulling together

:28:12.:28:17.

to get the best outcome. That is what we have always done when faced

:28:18.:28:21.

with challenges, we have pulled together as one and succeeded

:28:22.:28:26.

together. We are four nations but at heart we are one people. As the

:28:27.:28:31.

Prime Minister of this United Kingdom I will always ensure the

:28:32.:28:35.

voices and interests of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland

:28:36.:28:39.

are represented as we negotiate to leave the EU and I will always fight

:28:40.:28:43.

to strengthen and sustain this precious union.

:28:44.:29:01.

A great leader of our party once said that the Tory party, unless it

:29:02.:29:08.

is a national party, is nothing. Our party, he went on to say, is a party

:29:09.:29:15.

formed from all the numerous classes in the realm, classes alike and

:29:16.:29:18.

equal before the law but whose different conditions and different

:29:19.:29:23.

aims give vigour and variety to our national life. At its best, it has

:29:24.:29:27.

always been the mission of our party to serve all of the people, to be

:29:28.:29:31.

the truly national party, to act always in the national interest and

:29:32.:29:45.

never in a sectional interest, to encourage the strong and to protect

:29:46.:29:47.

the vulnerable, to enable success and to use the fruits of our

:29:48.:29:50.

collective success to advance the common good. In the years ahead,

:29:51.:29:52.

these are the values that should light our path. With our vision of a

:29:53.:29:57.

better future for our country, a plan for a stronger, fairer Britain

:29:58.:30:01.

and the determination to see it through. We will achieve that

:30:02.:30:08.

mission and be worthy of that better future.

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APPLAUSE. Thank you. The obligatory standing ovation for the Prime

:30:14.:30:17.

Minister's speech, much of the focus on this page has been that defence

:30:18.:30:23.

of the UK, that precious union as she calls it. She talked about

:30:24.:30:30.

another familiar theme, fairer, stronger Britain. What did you make

:30:31.:30:34.

of what the Prime Minister had to say? Often it is more interesting

:30:35.:30:39.

what is left out of a speech than what is put in. You will remember

:30:40.:30:43.

the fact that Phillip Hammond did not mention Brexit in the budget.

:30:44.:30:50.

The first striking thing there was how little there was attacking the

:30:51.:30:54.

Labour Party. That gives you some indication of how great a danger the

:30:55.:30:59.

Conservatives regard Labour as being, they virtually did not

:31:00.:31:03.

feature in the script. Instead she homed in on the SNP and that was in

:31:04.:31:07.

direct response to the outflanking of the Westminster government by the

:31:08.:31:11.

Hollywood government earlier in the week, trying to justify this

:31:12.:31:15.

decision which he has reached to refuse to enter into talks with the

:31:16.:31:20.

Scottish Government about the timing of a second independence referendum.

:31:21.:31:24.

What we have seen is that issue zooming up the agenda this week and

:31:25.:31:29.

that is no doubt having to be quite substantially rewritten because of

:31:30.:31:35.

that. Jeremy Corbyn's name was not mentioned at all. Quite incredible

:31:36.:31:39.

that in a speech that log the Prime Minister did not mention the Leader

:31:40.:31:43.

of the Opposition but back to the SNP, you say that you think the

:31:44.:31:48.

Prime Minister has been outflanked by the SNP and Nicola Sturgeon. She

:31:49.:31:53.

was caught off-guard on Monday and that is not to say that Nicola

:31:54.:31:57.

Sturgeon will end up as the victor, I am not saying that at all, but I

:31:58.:32:03.

think that the timing of the SNP, the announcement took the government

:32:04.:32:06.

unawares and they have been scrambling to catch up during the

:32:07.:32:09.

course of the week. This is not the way they had this week planned. It

:32:10.:32:15.

has been a grim week for them on a number of fronts and it started with

:32:16.:32:18.

that announcement by Nicola Sturgeon. Do you think that is

:32:19.:32:24.

reflected in the sort of language used about nationalism? She was

:32:25.:32:28.

quite forceful in her language and, talking about obsessive and divisive

:32:29.:32:33.

nationalism. Maybe it is the strongest we have heard her

:32:34.:32:39.

attacking them? Plaid Cymru was only added in there because she was in

:32:40.:32:44.

Cardiff, it was the SNP she was attacking. The problem she has is

:32:45.:32:49.

this, many of the arguments that were used against independence in

:32:50.:32:53.

the first independence referendum could equally be used against

:32:54.:32:58.

Brexit. It is difficult for her to talk about how ridiculous it would

:32:59.:33:03.

be for Scotland to turn its back on its largest market when she is doing

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exactly that in terms of the European Union. You cannot talk

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about putting up barriers when Britain is putting up barriers

:33:11.:33:15.

against the rest of the European Union. In a sense, she is a little

:33:16.:33:20.

bit hamstrung along the lines of attack she can take on the SNP, she

:33:21.:33:26.

talks about narrow divisive nationalism, but the SNP I think

:33:27.:33:30.

would point back at her and say, what are your immigration policies?

:33:31.:33:34.

Although she was suggesting in the speech that they were in total

:33:35.:33:41.

inconsistencies in the argument of the SNP on wanting to stay in the

:33:42.:33:44.

European Union but leave the United Kingdom. You can argue it anyway. Of

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course you can. They are arguing it on a basis of a quality, those

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accusations can fly either way and I think that the Westminster

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government will need to come up with a more subtle approach than less.

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That approach went down very well in the hall and the people in the hall

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are Conservative and Unionist, or if you put it another way, British

:34:10.:34:15.

nationalists. Equally, the nationalism of the Nicola Sturgeon

:34:16.:34:18.

goes down well in front of an audience of Scottish Nationalists,

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it is how you get those two people to reach across the aisle to the

:34:22.:34:25.

other audience that is the problem. That speech will have done nothing

:34:26.:34:31.

to help Theresa May in terms of Nationalists Scotland, there is a

:34:32.:34:34.

union of Scotland as well, it may have gone down well there. Thank you

:34:35.:34:40.

for now. Our political correspondent has been our eyes and ears at the

:34:41.:34:44.

conference and after the Prime Minister spoke, he asked to MPs for

:34:45.:34:51.

their reaction to the speech. I am joined by two Conservative MPs,

:34:52.:34:55.

Craig Williams and David Davies. Craig Williams, what did you make of

:34:56.:35:00.

Theresa May's plan for Britain, is it an attempt to draw a line under

:35:01.:35:04.

the difficult week they have had? It is great to see the Prime Minister

:35:05.:35:10.

in Cardiff. It is great to have that concentration on the union and a

:35:11.:35:14.

plan to save the union. We get the economic arguments but I have not

:35:15.:35:18.

heard the hard yet and she started to address that today. She is

:35:19.:35:23.

passionate about the United Kingdom and keeping us together and that

:35:24.:35:27.

plan is a great concentration for me. Isn't the truth of it that

:35:28.:35:32.

Nicola Sturgeon has bounced into making these kinds of speech is?

:35:33.:35:37.

Nicola Sturgeon calling for another referendum is not new news, we were

:35:38.:35:41.

expecting it. She is always looking for an excuse to call for a

:35:42.:35:45.

referendum on independence. I think the response from the Prime Minister

:35:46.:35:50.

was mature, thought through and it is that plan and saving the union is

:35:51.:35:54.

something that is Welsh, we passionately care about it and it is

:35:55.:35:58.

great to see the Prime Minister saying it in Cardiff. Again and

:35:59.:36:02.

again Theresa May talked about the case for the union, a more united

:36:03.:36:07.

country, how does the Tory government deliver on that? What

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Theresa May said, which was very important, as well as stressing the

:36:14.:36:17.

union, we have always been a party that is there for anyone, we believe

:36:18.:36:22.

in meritocracy, it does not matter if you're black, white, gay,

:36:23.:36:27.

straight, we are there for everyone who wants to work hard and get on

:36:28.:36:32.

and I think we will see that in the way we support businesses, that we

:36:33.:36:36.

get the debt down and bring down taxes and take people out of the tax

:36:37.:36:40.

system altogether if they are low paid and gave everyone a boost of

:36:41.:36:43.

encouragement to get out there and make the most of the opportunities

:36:44.:36:48.

that exist. That means no special favours for Wales or Scotland or any

:36:49.:36:52.

other region or a nation? Wales has always done well at being part of

:36:53.:36:58.

the union and we have made a huge contribution, not only in terms of

:36:59.:37:01.

finances, but look at the contribution to the Armed Forces

:37:02.:37:04.

that has come out of Wales, that is very important. We are the

:37:05.:37:09.

Conservative and Unionist party and we will be talking about the union,

:37:10.:37:13.

we always have done and I think we have not been bounced by Nicola

:37:14.:37:17.

Sturgeon at all but it is important to say, she cannot have another

:37:18.:37:22.

referendum, we always expected that she would keep calling referendums

:37:23.:37:25.

until she got the answer she wanted, but there is no point in having a

:37:26.:37:29.

referendum until we know what the final deal will look like when we

:37:30.:37:32.

have pulled out of the European Union. Isn't that a risky tactic for

:37:33.:37:38.

the Prime Minister, to say you can have a referendum but not on your

:37:39.:37:42.

terms and not when you wanted, it will be up to me to decide, is on

:37:43.:37:47.

that plane into the hands of the SNP? I think it is being reasonable.

:37:48.:37:52.

Nicola Sturgeon said the last referendum was going to be once in a

:37:53.:37:57.

generation, for her to demand another referendum and she wants to

:37:58.:38:00.

dictate the time and question, I think it is ludicrous. I am certain

:38:01.:38:05.

that the government will listen to what she has to say and she insists

:38:06.:38:09.

on, they will allow her to have some sort of referendum, but doing right

:38:10.:38:13.

now in the middle of a complicated negotiation over our future in

:38:14.:38:20.

Europe, and does not make any sense. You were a Remain voter, do you have

:38:21.:38:28.

sympathy with Scottish people, the majority of whom voted to Remain,

:38:29.:38:32.

who now want to go independent as a way to get back into the EU, do you

:38:33.:38:39.

not have sympathy? I was a Remainer, I campaigned for that position but

:38:40.:38:42.

they said throughout it, this was a referendum that the United Kingdom,

:38:43.:38:49.

the member states of the European Union, not any other nation, it was

:38:50.:38:53.

the UK, we have the referendum on that basis and as a Remainer, we

:38:54.:38:58.

lost. Now we go to our new relationship with the EU, we are not

:38:59.:39:02.

leaving Europe, we will still be there and be good neighbours and we

:39:03.:39:06.

need a good relationship with them, which I hope keeps the best bits of

:39:07.:39:11.

the current EU but there is going to be compromise. David Davies, you

:39:12.:39:18.

voted Leave, very strongly worded favour of Leave, there will be

:39:19.:39:22.

divisions of the party, have those divisions now healed? There were

:39:23.:39:26.

never any divisions in the first place, differences of opinion which

:39:27.:39:30.

were expressed in a mature fashion. Is it realistic to disagree so

:39:31.:39:35.

vociferously and then say it is all behind us? With all due respect to

:39:36.:39:39.

the media, they were predicting the demise of the Conservatives, how we

:39:40.:39:45.

would be lunged into confusion, look at the reality. The reality is that

:39:46.:39:48.

Conservative MPs and assembly members and councillors, all are

:39:49.:39:55.

united behind our Prime Minister. We have had a referendum, there were

:39:56.:39:59.

differences of opinion, but we recognise the result. 20 I was

:40:00.:40:06.

against the Welsh assembly, I recognise the result, that is

:40:07.:40:09.

democracy. We disagree on a lot more than the EU. What about the first

:40:10.:40:17.

budget, there has been a U-turn on National Insurance contributions for

:40:18.:40:20.

the self-employed, how much damage has that done to the government? I

:40:21.:40:26.

have been out on the doorsteps and I have taken this head on. We change,

:40:27.:40:31.

we put a proposition forward, we agreed that the substance of this

:40:32.:40:35.

but it was against the spirit of the manifesto. We talked about it for a

:40:36.:40:41.

week and we made a U-turn. Does that wrecked your credibility? We

:40:42.:40:49.

listened and change something and that is now seen as Saturday! I

:40:50.:40:54.

believe in a government that listens and changes and that the Chancellor

:40:55.:41:00.

can take as many questions as the opposition or as many statements of

:41:01.:41:03.

the opposition want to put forward about that and that was mature and

:41:04.:41:07.

their politics. You do not think it has a whiff of arrogance that the

:41:08.:41:10.

government will try and do whatever it wants because it is faced by a

:41:11.:41:18.

weak opposition? Absolutely not. We have got a good relationship, we are

:41:19.:41:23.

the only real centre party left in UK politics and a good relationship,

:41:24.:41:27.

I am out on the doors, David is out on the door is talking to our

:41:28.:41:31.

electorate and we listen. We do not get elected once every five years

:41:32.:41:35.

and ignore the elector, it is a conversation and we build on it. The

:41:36.:41:40.

other way of seeing it is that the government is overwhelmed by Brexit

:41:41.:41:43.

and as a result, the Chancellor makes these kind of guards, he has

:41:44.:41:48.

taken his eyes from the ball. We cannot be described as being

:41:49.:41:52.

arrogant and the next minute as weak. The reality is, there is a

:41:53.:41:58.

strong argument for equalising, it needs to be done in a careful

:41:59.:42:03.

fashion and with a proper debate and perhaps we had not quite manage that

:42:04.:42:07.

and we have listened and changed our approach to it. The Conservative

:42:08.:42:14.

Party is very united. I have been an activist since the 1980s and have

:42:15.:42:17.

never known anything like this. This is a very good moment for us as a

:42:18.:42:23.

party. It is not as you ought to be putting questions about division and

:42:24.:42:28.

weakness too, it is the opposition, they have a problem. On Brexit,

:42:29.:42:34.

isn't it the case that frankly, the workload is just overwhelming

:42:35.:42:36.

Whitehall, the government has not really come up with a fully detailed

:42:37.:42:40.

plan, there is still a huge amount of uncertainty about where it is

:42:41.:42:44.

heading. There will always be uncertainty, this deal needs to be

:42:45.:42:48.

agreed with the other EU states and until they have sat down and had a

:42:49.:42:57.

negotiation, we will not know exactly what is going to happen. You

:42:58.:42:59.

cannot go into a negotiation knowing the outcome but we know broadly what

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it is and we know the government are looking for free trade arrangement

:43:03.:43:05.

with the rest of Europe and they will expect the ability to control

:43:06.:43:07.

immigration and set up their own free-trade arrangements around the

:43:08.:43:12.

world, especially with America, so that is how it is going to look. If

:43:13.:43:17.

we do not get a deal, we will go back to WTO rules. Do you being

:43:18.:43:23.

going back to the situation that already exist but the rest of the

:43:24.:43:27.

world, with whom we do more trade? That is what it will be. It will be

:43:28.:43:31.

the situation we have with America at the moment. Let me put it, it may

:43:32.:43:41.

be where you end up. Liam Fox, the trade Secretary was here today

:43:42.:43:43.

talking about how Britain it needs to be in the vanguard of free trade.

:43:44.:43:49.

We already doing that by being part of this huge single market in Europe

:43:50.:43:51.

that you want to take us out of? We have not started yet. Article 50

:43:52.:44:04.

has not been initiated and we have not started the negotiations. I do

:44:05.:44:08.

not want that and the Prime Minister has set out she wants that access,

:44:09.:44:13.

the best access to the single market as possible. We want to be there and

:44:14.:44:21.

this power over trade has been given to the EU. We have not done trade

:44:22.:44:25.

for a long time so we have not been in the vanguard and we are going

:44:26.:44:30.

back. Local elections in May. How important is that you bounce back

:44:31.:44:33.

from assembly elections last year when you lost seats? Incredibly

:44:34.:44:39.

important. We did not lose any first past the post seats and this is the

:44:40.:44:44.

first past the post election. I was a councillor for eight years and I

:44:45.:44:48.

massively value that. That is how we built our party from the grassroots

:44:49.:44:53.

up. These elections are important. The choice people have on the

:44:54.:44:59.

doorstep whether to elect your competent Conservative councillor is

:45:00.:45:01.

an extremely important one and it is important for us to get as many

:45:02.:45:06.

councillors and local authorities in Conservative control. Thank you.

:45:07.:45:14.

Our reporter talking to David Davis and click Williams. The conference

:45:15.:45:20.

also heard from the Welsh Conservative leader. He began with a

:45:21.:45:27.

joke at his own expense. Good morning, conference. That is nice,

:45:28.:45:43.

louder. It will reassure you, some of you come to know that I have

:45:44.:45:47.

eaten my breakfast this morning. The meal that made me go viral for the

:45:48.:45:51.

wrong reasons last time I stood before you at the Birmingham

:45:52.:45:55.

conference, seeing myself on Australian prime-time news was

:45:56.:46:00.

surreal and I have yet to live it down. Thankfully I no longer appear

:46:01.:46:05.

on YouTube's most viewed list but the less said about that the better.

:46:06.:46:11.

Before I begin, let me pay tribute to our fantastic team of Welsh

:46:12.:46:14.

Conservative colleagues in the National Assembly with the special

:46:15.:46:18.

mention to my deputy Paul Davis for his unstinting support. I would also

:46:19.:46:29.

like to thank all of the staff who work tirelessly for as for without

:46:30.:46:36.

them we would not be able to achieve the good work we do. I would like to

:46:37.:46:41.

be tribute to the excellent work undertaken by CCHQ well slide by our

:46:42.:46:45.

very talented director Richard Mitchell. I want to personally thank

:46:46.:46:58.

all of our hard-working members and volunteers who give up their time to

:46:59.:47:02.

paint the pavements and not the doors in all the name of the

:47:03.:47:07.

Conservative cause. In Wales we can sometimes be guilty of clinging to

:47:08.:47:12.

the past for there is great comfort in nostalgia. We have had golden

:47:13.:47:22.

ages, no doubt about that, and enriched Wales and the United

:47:23.:47:25.

Kingdom beyond measure. Ships would seal the length and breadth of the

:47:26.:47:29.

globe often in difficult conditions to dock in our world-famous ports,

:47:30.:47:35.

to buy or coal, iron and timber. Few amongst others are meant to those

:47:36.:47:39.

feelings of nostalgia that reflect on those days of global possibility.

:47:40.:47:46.

Keep your eyes fixed on the past we risk missing out on the

:47:47.:47:50.

opportunities that lie before us. It is incumbent on us to embrace the

:47:51.:47:57.

Power of now with strong hands and open minds, we must seize the

:47:58.:48:02.

opportunities that lie ahead. With our superb Prime Minister Theresa

:48:03.:48:06.

May and our great team and the Welsh office led by my friend Alan Cairns

:48:07.:48:11.

we have a united front fighting for Wales and for Britain's best

:48:12.:48:22.

interests. As we move forward it is clear that we are embarking upon

:48:23.:48:27.

another golden age. This is evident in the tens of thousands of

:48:28.:48:31.

enterprise being born every year and in the hunger of the people behind

:48:32.:48:35.

them, all eager to make their mark on wheels, the UK and the world

:48:36.:48:41.

beyond. There journey begins now. They joined the thousands of others

:48:42.:48:46.

who make up the engine of our economy and who will drive Wales to

:48:47.:48:52.

the prosperity we know is within our reach but only on the wheels of a

:48:53.:48:55.

strong Welsh Conservative government. Take for example in

:48:56.:49:04.

Anglesey, 20 employees, one company's Salters enjoyed across the

:49:05.:49:11.

world from Royal Family to butchers. Another family business who

:49:12.:49:13.

celebrate their 25th anniversary and have the capacity to produce 400

:49:14.:49:21.

million bottles of water year. Not forgetting the fastest-growing

:49:22.:49:26.

business in Wales who have recorded record growth in recent years from a

:49:27.:49:31.

little town, there are aircraft parts serve the global aviation

:49:32.:49:37.

market. These businesses epitomise Wales, small but thinking big and

:49:38.:49:42.

gazing out words. They joined the big beasts of Admiral, Iceland

:49:43.:49:51.

foods, in contributing so much to Wells' prosperity. We are not

:49:52.:49:58.

victims of history. We have the skill, ambition, global links and

:49:59.:50:02.

cross-border trade needed to make a success of the big changes that will

:50:03.:50:06.

on the horizon but we cannot do this alone. We work best and achieve the

:50:07.:50:13.

most when we work together, together as four great nations working under

:50:14.:50:16.

one banner, the United Kingdom. Our great union said in motion the

:50:17.:50:32.

industrialisation of the world in times of conflict we fought

:50:33.:50:36.

side-by-side to secure peace and together we have built one of the

:50:37.:50:39.

biggest economies the world has ever seen. The leader of the Scottish

:50:40.:50:44.

Nationalists want to tear that union apart. With each passing day she

:50:45.:50:48.

sounds more and more like the man she reviles the most. She wants to

:50:49.:50:53.

rebuild Hadrian Zwolle and sadly it is the Scottish people will pay for

:50:54.:51:02.

it. I have got a message for the SNP and the other separatist parties

:51:03.:51:06.

across our isles, the United Kingdom, we cherish it, and it is

:51:07.:51:10.

not a thing of the past, it remains as ever at the world's latest family

:51:11.:51:16.

of nations. Nicola Sturgeon take note, the great union UCD today is

:51:17.:51:31.

here to stay -- you see here. As they gather here in Wales it is

:51:32.:51:38.

important to recognise that our beautiful country is not without its

:51:39.:51:42.

challenges. And as we need to acknowledge and embrace them and not

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shirk from them. It is not very often that you find me agreeing with

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the Labour politician but last month ban Morgan of Ealing made a welcome

:51:53.:51:57.

admission that Wales has lived a dependency culture for too long. It

:51:58.:52:03.

was alarming in its frankness, even if the solution she proposed more

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wide of the mark. It is not the people of Wales who need to shake

:52:08.:52:11.

off that dependency culture and embrace the role of wealth creators,

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it is the Labour Party, at the helm here in Wales since the dawn of

:52:17.:52:23.

devolution. Does anyone seriously believe that they have the capacity

:52:24.:52:27.

to turn things around? This is the Labour government that has delivered

:52:28.:52:31.

a lost generation of students left to struggle in the UK's worst

:52:32.:52:38.

performing education system. A Labour government that has ruby

:52:39.:52:41.

deeply wasted taxpayers money on failed investment and which remains

:52:42.:52:46.

the only party in the UK to have ever cut the NHS budget. Our

:52:47.:52:51.

teachers and our NHS staff work incredibly hard in increasingly

:52:52.:52:56.

difficult circumstances and I have nothing but praise and admiration

:52:57.:53:00.

for them for the way they deliver our services. That is right. It is

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not the people who are holding us back, it is the Labour Party. People

:53:14.:53:20.

are looking to their politicians to articulate an alternative vision for

:53:21.:53:25.

the country's future, a vision as bright as its industrial past. The

:53:26.:53:32.

Brexit vote should people are crying out for change and following the

:53:33.:53:35.

referendum people believe that changes within their grasp. When the

:53:36.:53:40.

opportunity arises opposition leaders must be bold enough to take

:53:41.:53:45.

it. Throughout the devolved the other parties have been too willing

:53:46.:53:52.

to prop up labour in government. Choosing ace at the cabinet table of

:53:53.:53:56.

the interests of their constituents. That needs to change. In the time

:53:57.:54:01.

that has come Labour's budgies need to be taken away. Apply -- Plaid

:54:02.:54:09.

Cymru even for the last election claiming to be the change that Wales

:54:10.:54:14.

needed but they did a deal with the Labour Party that saw the people of

:54:15.:54:18.

Wales sentenced to five more years. Plaid Cymru's widow believes her

:54:19.:54:22.

party's working agreement with Labour as the best of both worlds.

:54:23.:54:28.

For are maybe. Our without responsibility is the easy option.

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It is the Welsh communities that bear the brunt of Labour's

:54:34.:54:36.

incompetence. Does that represent the change that Wales needs? I know

:54:37.:54:43.

that Brexit has divided opinion but our great party reflected that

:54:44.:54:47.

exchange of ideas better than any other, during and after the

:54:48.:54:53.

referendum. Now that the public has spoken it is our party that has run

:54:54.:54:57.

off the black clouds of pessimism and is focused on embracing the

:54:58.:55:01.

opportunities that lie ahead. We know that there is work to do to

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bridge the gap between the groups in society who disagree but we remain

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as convinced as ever that Wales can thrive in the new era week is this

:55:12.:55:17.

country's resourcefulness, creative and industrious to get on with the

:55:18.:55:21.

job in hand. We just need to harness that energy. Wales is the land of

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Song and we need our political leaders to be singing from the same

:55:28.:55:32.

hymn sheet. We cannot allow Labour's pessimism and complacency to hold us

:55:33.:55:37.

back as we approach a momentous period in history. It is the need to

:55:38.:55:44.

work together. I will offer the hand of friendship to anyone who wants to

:55:45.:55:48.

be part of that journey. This is an open end of the Dom Eich invitation

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to anyone who believes like me that our aim as a country must be to

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ensure that Wales' future is as glorious as its past. As we

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negotiate in a relationship with the EU we have a significant opportunity

:56:09.:56:12.

to create a fairer Wales and a better Britain, building a strong

:56:13.:56:16.

economy for Wales as part of the United Kingdom when nobody is left

:56:17.:56:21.

behind. And where the strong and effective local government is

:56:22.:56:24.

accountable and delivers high-quality public services.

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Instead of Labour's top-down approach we want to see local as and

:56:37.:56:40.

social responsibility. We want to see people empowered in their

:56:41.:56:44.

communities. We want to see our businesses supported, our older

:56:45.:56:50.

people govern security and dignity they deserve and ensure our future

:56:51.:56:54.

generations have the best possible opportunity to succeed. We trust

:56:55.:56:58.

people to do the right thing and we want to give them real control of

:56:59.:57:06.

their lives. The levers of power should not always be controlled from

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Cardiff B or Westminster. We want to see councils delivering effective

:57:12.:57:15.

local services that work for everyone and put power back in your

:57:16.:57:21.

hands. For too long Labour and Plaid Cymru councils have help communities

:57:22.:57:30.

back across Wales, communities due to their staggering incompetence

:57:31.:57:32.

which have had local services deteriorate beyond recognition. Then

:57:33.:57:37.

there is the clear alternative. For that you only need to look at

:57:38.:57:42.

Monmouthshire where the council has made great strides under the

:57:43.:57:46.

leadership of Peter Fox and his team. Sadly Peter cannot be here

:57:47.:57:52.

today as he has given up the bright lights for an equally glamorous of

:57:53.:57:58.

fear, and OBE, which he richly deserves for his outstanding public

:57:59.:58:09.

service and efforts. Efforts in securing the Cardiff City Deal.

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Under Peter and his conservative team in Monmouthshire the council

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has pioneered and transformed the delivery of public services. Only

:58:19.:58:23.

the fourth we have the opportunity to roll out these great and

:58:24.:58:26.

approaches are costs the country for the benefit of the community is the

:58:27.:58:32.

length and breadth of Wales, increasing our Welsh Conservative

:58:33.:58:35.

representation is vital if we are to unlock that potential that

:58:36.:58:39.

undoubtedly exists in our communities but which has sadly

:58:40.:58:44.

suffocated under socialist and nationalists diktats. A regime which

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has stood side-by-side and is banning one of the greatest

:58:52.:58:54.

aspirational policies this country has ever seen, the right to buy. A

:58:55.:58:59.

policy which is allowed generations of people to get on in life and buy

:59:00.:59:01.

their own home. You only have to look at Wales if

:59:02.:59:11.

you want to see the devastating impact further the likes of policies

:59:12.:59:17.

from Jeremy Corbyn will have on communities across the UK. A Labour

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Party hand in hand with the Nationalists pulling up the ladder

:59:22.:59:25.

of hard-working people who just want to get on in life and support their

:59:26.:59:31.

families. People across Wales and the United Kingdom deserve better.

:59:32.:59:36.

And we are the party with a plan to deliver and stand up for Wales and

:59:37.:59:41.

Britain. And while the Labour Party might have abdicated its

:59:42.:59:44.

responsibility for defending the union and standing up for

:59:45.:59:48.

hard-working people, we will not. APPLAUSE. I am proud to lead the

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Welsh Conservative Party, I am proud to see a Prime Minister standing up

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and fighting for Wales and the United Kingdom. So let's get out

:00:06.:00:10.

there, on the straights and let people across Wales and the United

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Kingdom no that our great union is worth fighting for. Thank you.

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APPLAUSE. Very definite end there are two Andrew RT Davies 's speech

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to the conference yesterday. It was a tricky one for him, he started off

:00:30.:00:34.

proceedings in the morning and the main event was later with the Prime

:00:35.:00:41.

Minister's speech. That is the combined nature of the event. A lot

:00:42.:00:45.

of the audience there would have been from Wales but a lot of them

:00:46.:00:50.

would not be. They were used to some of the arguments that Andrew RT

:00:51.:00:53.

Davies was advancing because they do not know much about Welsh politics,

:00:54.:00:58.

what was interesting was he did what Theresa May did not do which was to

:00:59.:01:02.

attack the Labour Party head on and the reason for that is simple.

:01:03.:01:06.

Labour are in power in Cardiff Bay where he is in opposition and they

:01:07.:01:16.

are facing local elections in just a few short weeks' time and he was

:01:17.:01:19.

setting the stage for those. Lots of talk from him about being positive,

:01:20.:01:21.

about Brexit and a bright future under Brexit for Wales, has he

:01:22.:01:25.

bolstered his position as Welsh party leader as someone who

:01:26.:01:29.

supported Brexit, who wanted a vote to leave the EU? He would have been

:01:30.:01:34.

in a very difficult position, had the vote being to Remain, either on

:01:35.:01:40.

a UK bases are a Welsh basis. He is in a better position within the

:01:41.:01:49.

party than he would have been had the vote been Remain. The problem

:01:50.:01:52.

with that speech, to be honest with you, was although he talked about

:01:53.:01:54.

being positive and this being the start of a golden age, there was

:01:55.:02:00.

actually very little in it in terms of specifically Welsh policies. What

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you had was talk about positivity and then a lot of negativity about

:02:05.:02:09.

the records of the Welsh Labour government and that is partly

:02:10.:02:13.

because of where we are in the political cycle. We are only one

:02:14.:02:18.

year since the last assembly elections, policy development has

:02:19.:02:22.

not really started, but it did gyre our little bet that you had this

:02:23.:02:27.

talk about being positive and then the bulk of the speech was almost

:02:28.:02:31.

entirely negative and all about the record of the Welsh Labour

:02:32.:02:35.

government. Maybe he had to get his key messages across quickly because

:02:36.:02:39.

he would have had shorter to speak at this conference. Thank you. What

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do Andrew RT Davies is assembly members think of his message?

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Joining me now to Conservative AM 's, Susie Davies and Paul Davies.

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Susie, it has been a tricky week for the Conservatives. Normally a

:03:01.:03:04.

conference time, you would be in fine mode, but Webb and National

:03:05.:03:09.

Insurance and U-turn and Scottish independence, it has been a

:03:10.:03:14.

difficult week. I do not know if I accept that the National Insurance

:03:15.:03:19.

story has been difficult. Anyone would be pleased to hear that the

:03:20.:03:23.

government has changed its mind for good reasons. As far as the

:03:24.:03:28.

Chancellor is concerned, we came out of it pretty well and people who are

:03:29.:03:32.

self-employed would be pleased with that change of heart and as far as

:03:33.:03:37.

the Scottish referendum goes, I am wondering who is this terror here.

:03:38.:03:42.

Do you think it is a risky strategy for Theresa May to tell the Scottish

:03:43.:03:47.

Government you cannot have a referendum whenever you are one? The

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Prime Minister has been clear that the focus of the country at the

:03:51.:03:53.

moment should be to deal with Brexit. She made that absolutely

:03:54.:03:58.

clear to Nicola Sturgeon and it is unfortunate that Nicola Sturgeon is

:03:59.:04:02.

trying to play politics with this when she should be concentrating on

:04:03.:04:05.

the negotiations ahead with the European Union. Isn't it true that

:04:06.:04:09.

Brexit is following up all of the attention of the government and that

:04:10.:04:15.

is why it makes mistakes like this U-turn on National Insurance

:04:16.:04:17.

contributions in the budget? The people of the UK and Wales have made

:04:18.:04:22.

a decision, they want to leave the European Union and the government

:04:23.:04:25.

has made it absolutely clear now that it will deliver on that and

:04:26.:04:28.

that is the Prime Minister's focus. What about the focus of the party in

:04:29.:04:34.

the assembly with Labour and Plaid Cymru working together and you are

:04:35.:04:39.

on the sidelines, Suzy Davies. I am surprised that is how easy it

:04:40.:04:45.

because Plaid Cymru has just booted out two of its own members. Our job

:04:46.:04:49.

is to hold the Welsh Government to account regardless of who it is

:04:50.:04:56.

working with. Does this last week, we took them to task on their record

:04:57.:05:00.

and they had very little to say about anything they had done well.

:05:01.:05:05.

18 years is a long time and you can make a lot of mistakes, and you have

:05:06.:05:09.

a lot of time to put it right and the Welsh Government has not done

:05:10.:05:13.

that. It is Plaid Cymru that is making life difficult for Labour by

:05:14.:05:17.

withholding its support on a supplementary budget, they are able

:05:18.:05:22.

to extract concessions from Carwyn Jones, not you. We are the

:05:23.:05:25.

opposition and we are there to scrutinise him and we did not

:05:26.:05:30.

support it either. That shows that actually in opposition you can

:05:31.:05:34.

represent the people of Wales better than the government, because that

:05:35.:05:39.

government has not come up with anything new that I would say is

:05:40.:05:41.

brave and exciting and that will change the future for Wales in the

:05:42.:05:44.

six years that I have been there. They deserve to be voted down and

:05:45.:05:48.

Plaid Cymru want to do that as well, then other third party, just let

:05:49.:05:52.

them. You have got an endorsement from Andrew RT Davies, but his

:05:53.:05:58.

speech did not mention the result of last year's assembly elections were

:05:59.:06:02.

you did badly, you came third, you lost seats, has there been a lot of

:06:03.:06:06.

soul-searching in the party since that assembly election result? I

:06:07.:06:11.

think Andrew did a fantastic speech today and he was talking about our

:06:12.:06:17.

vision is a party for Wales. We want to deliver for the people of Wales

:06:18.:06:21.

and we are the real opposition as far as this Welsh Government is

:06:22.:06:25.

concerned because what we have seen from Plaid Cymru is Plaid Cymru yet

:06:26.:06:29.

again propping up a Welsh Labour government and we are the real

:06:30.:06:34.

alternative, offering real choice to people of Wales. The voters did not

:06:35.:06:38.

necessarily see it like that last year, you lost sleep, you went

:06:39.:06:43.

backwards, is Andrew RT Davies 's leadership of the Welsh secure given

:06:44.:06:48.

that result last year? We made it clear that Andrew is our leader and

:06:49.:06:53.

he is doing a fantastic job as leader of the group in the assembly

:06:54.:06:57.

and he will continue to do so. How important is it that you get a good

:06:58.:07:02.

result, a better result this may in the local elections? We want to do

:07:03.:07:07.

as well as we can and our candidate count is on its way to breaking its

:07:08.:07:14.

own record. We are in a different era of politics and people locally,

:07:15.:07:18.

even at the assembly election, are not prepared to do the same old

:07:19.:07:22.

thing, their voting patterns change and those who voted Plaid Cymru will

:07:23.:07:25.

feel very betrayed that the very reason they voted for them, to keep

:07:26.:07:31.

out Labour, spec -- spectacularly backfired. We need to make sure we

:07:32.:07:36.

get a good positive message out there about what we can do that is

:07:37.:07:39.

different and better. Is it important to you that you do better

:07:40.:07:44.

than Plaid Cymru? I would love to do better than them! Do you need to lay

:07:45.:07:51.

down that marker? In certain parts of Wales, where we perhaps have not

:07:52.:07:55.

done it in the past, we need to make advances against them. There are

:07:56.:08:01.

parts were our council seat numbers are low but Plaid Cymru's are not

:08:02.:08:05.

good either. We want to make games against them but more importantly

:08:06.:08:10.

Labour in those seats. Thank you very much. In his speech, the Welsh

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Secretary Alun Cairns is celebrating one year in the job tomorrow started

:08:21.:08:25.

by praising card of's attributes as a capital city. It is a pleasure to

:08:26.:08:30.

be here at the Welsh Conservative Party conference and the spring

:08:31.:08:35.

Forum and I am particularly delighted to welcome everyone to

:08:36.:08:39.

this stadium here in Cardiff, the greatest capital city in the world,

:08:40.:08:43.

although I will accept that London does come quite a close second.

:08:44.:08:52.

LAUGHTER. I want to thank my excellent team, including Glyn

:08:53.:08:57.

Davies and to the excellent and strong leadership shown by Andrew RT

:08:58.:09:01.

Davies and his excellent team of assembly members, as well as the

:09:02.:09:04.

party director for his unstinting work in the campaigns.

:09:05.:09:15.

APPLAUSE. But also thank you to you as the mothers of the party, for the

:09:16.:09:19.

work that you do. After all, you are the ones who do the knocking on

:09:20.:09:25.

doors and delivered the leaflets. We have a great challenge in front of

:09:26.:09:29.

you. As I welcome many of you to Wales, possibly for the first time,

:09:30.:09:34.

let me introduce some of the key elements of our unique culture,

:09:35.:09:39.

history and identity. We have more castles per square mile than any

:09:40.:09:42.

other country in the world. Over 600 in total. I would particularly

:09:43.:09:54.

recommend Euro Castle for its rich history, in 1157 is a great triumph

:09:55.:09:57.

by the Welsh over the English. LAUGHTER. The world's first million

:09:58.:10:05.

pound cheque was signed in Cardiff when coal powered the industrial

:10:06.:10:08.

revolution and the world's first-ever wireless broadcast took

:10:09.:10:15.

place in 1897 in the Vale of Glamorgan. That first message was,

:10:16.:10:20.

are you ready? Ironically, a message which is equally relevant to the

:10:21.:10:26.

challenges today. Throughout history, our most successful

:10:27.:10:29.

innovators and entrepreneurs have come from different parts of the UK

:10:30.:10:34.

and the same is true today, from Aston Martin in South Wales to

:10:35.:10:39.

Jaguar Land Rover in Coventry to world leading coach builder right

:10:40.:10:42.

bus in Northern Ireland to scotch whiskey north of the border,

:10:43.:10:46.

entrepreneurs, and industry across the UK, creating jobs, generating

:10:47.:10:50.

wealth and supporting public services. In highlighting the

:10:51.:10:55.

qualities of each nation, I am seeking to underline that we are a

:10:56.:11:00.

union of four nations, developed over a long history, communicating

:11:01.:11:04.

through a common culture and a shared identity, a special union we

:11:05.:11:10.

should always preserve. APPLAUSE. From Shakespeare to Robert

:11:11.:11:23.

Burns, and Dylan Thomas, we must celebrate what makes the UK so

:11:24.:11:28.

different and so great. The NHS, our Armed Forces, BBC, the monarchy, the

:11:29.:11:33.

great British pub, a proper cup of tea and the great British pound

:11:34.:11:39.

which may just down the road in the Royal Mint. These important threads

:11:40.:11:43.

of British culture all contribute to our sense of what being part of the

:11:44.:11:48.

United Kingdom actually means. And that is not to say that this

:11:49.:11:51.

connection is the same throughout the UK, far from it. The impact of

:11:52.:11:57.

our shared history, institutions and culture, varies hugely from lands

:11:58.:12:03.

end to John O groats and rightly so. Nonetheless, this innate sense of

:12:04.:12:08.

feeling, like you belong to something bigger than yourself is

:12:09.:12:13.

hugely important. And it has delivered a long-standing and

:12:14.:12:17.

successful union of people, affections and loyalties, something

:12:18.:12:21.

we should never forget. But the case for the union is not only emotional,

:12:22.:12:26.

it is logical. It is sensible and it is practical. Put simply, we achieve

:12:27.:12:33.

more together. It is not political rhetoric, it is common sense. It is

:12:34.:12:38.

also the -- also a fact of life that 50% of the Welsh population and 10%

:12:39.:12:42.

of the endless population live within 25 miles of the English and

:12:43.:12:49.

Wales border. People commute daily. They drop their kids off at school

:12:50.:12:54.

and do their weekly shop in Shrewsbury. We must not start

:12:55.:12:58.

constructing barriers were visibly do not exist, and message last on

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the Nationalists. APPLAUSE.

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In business, in civic society, on the playing fields, within our own

:13:11.:13:17.

family, we achieve more together. And the achievements of the United

:13:18.:13:20.

Kingdom have gone down in history as some of the greatest in the world.

:13:21.:13:25.

From the industrial revolution, through two great wars, to becoming

:13:26.:13:29.

the world's fifth largest economy, with less than 1% of the world's

:13:30.:13:33.

population, are sporting success through Team GB and the British and

:13:34.:13:37.

Irish Lions who will be touring later this year. We must champion

:13:38.:13:42.

these collective achievements, celebrating economic success, shared

:13:43.:13:46.

history, creative culture and sporting excellence, as the Prime

:13:47.:13:49.

Minister has said, collective achievement has been the story of

:13:50.:13:50.

our union. Wales and the union benefit

:13:51.:14:04.

significantly. The Ministry of Defence, the department for

:14:05.:14:09.

international trade. Liam Fox's department has over 1200 staff

:14:10.:14:13.

overseas in 109 different countries on almost 800 trade missions and

:14:14.:14:17.

initiatives this year, more than any one nation of the UK could do

:14:18.:14:22.

individually, to drive investment to ensure that we remain among the

:14:23.:14:28.

fastest-growing economies in the D7. As a result in Wales we have a

:14:29.:14:34.

recognisable of people in work. Lowest female unemployment across

:14:35.:14:36.

Europe. The fastest growth outside London since 2010 and the value of

:14:37.:14:41.

Welsh exports has more than doubled since 1999. A specific example this

:14:42.:14:50.

year, EF 35 fighter jet global centre of excellence was brought to

:14:51.:14:55.

Sealand. Creating thousands of jobs and pumping billions of pounds into

:14:56.:15:01.

the local economy over decades. The excellence of the local workforce

:15:02.:15:03.

capitalising on the presence and status of the union. As we look for

:15:04.:15:12.

investment and growth Wales, England, Scotland and Northern

:15:13.:15:15.

Ireland should not be considered in isolation. We bring together the

:15:16.:15:21.

assets of all parts of the UK to win that deal or secure that trade

:15:22.:15:28.

agreement. For example Nissan in Sunderland is important to 100

:15:29.:15:34.

component industries in Wales. Yesterday's deal in Derbyshire

:15:35.:15:40.

equally important to Toyota's engine plant in north will. Aston Martin in

:15:41.:15:44.

my constituency is important to the engineering companies in England and

:15:45.:15:51.

the textile industries in Scotland. Wherever you are from, we want the

:15:52.:15:56.

same thing. A fairer society where success is based on merit not

:15:57.:16:00.

privilege. A global Britain that is owed were looking and embraces the

:16:01.:16:04.

world. A stronger economy were everyone plays by the same rules and

:16:05.:16:08.

a united nation that our children and grandchildren are proud of and

:16:09.:16:14.

can call home. Growing up in the Swansea Valley my father was a

:16:15.:16:17.

steelworker at Port Talbot and my family ran the local grocery shop.

:16:18.:16:25.

Like most parents they work long hours and made significant

:16:26.:16:27.

sacrifices to give my sister and ie better future. Every parent holds

:16:28.:16:35.

this aspiration. With these shared ambitions, as a united nation I am

:16:36.:16:39.

optimistic and even excited about delivering a country that works for

:16:40.:16:44.

everyone. Just like any family, as one union we step in to help each

:16:45.:16:49.

other. The economic security provided by the UK Government help

:16:50.:16:53.

support Port Talbot when crisis at the steel industry happened last

:16:54.:16:58.

year. Although there is still work to be done the hard work of the

:16:59.:17:03.

employees of the unions, the management, the government, mean the

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plant is in a much stronger position than it was this time last year. The

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strength of our economy means the UK Government can manage the volatility

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in the oil and gas sector, a vital industry to Scotland, something the

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volatility... The volatility is something the nationalists choose to

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ignore. As we leave the European Union the union of the UK is more

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important now than it has ever been. Last year's referendum changed so

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much and we do not underestimate the challenge ahead. Nor should we

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underestimate the fantastic opportunities before us. As we leave

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the European Union we have an exciting opportunity to build a

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truly global Britain, a plan for Britain that reaches out to old

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friends and new allies alike. In earlier this week we celebrated

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Commonwealth Bay. Last year economic growth across the Commonwealth was

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four times greater than the growth across Europe. What a great

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opportunity to deepen our engagement and friendship with some old

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friends. This demonstrates that the result of the referendum is not a

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reason to turn inward and retreat from the world to a protectionist

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agenda that the Socialists and nationalists want. Wales attracted

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20% of the UK's inward investment during the 1990s and as we leave the

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EU I am optimistic, ambitious and even excited to see that the

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forefront of global trade once more. All of Wales working as one. We have

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a great platform to build on. Great examples of exporting success. Every

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two seconds a GE powered aeroplane is taking off somewhere in the

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world. Over half the world's commercial aircraft are flying with

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wings that were built here. Last year the eyes of the world were on

:19:09.:19:12.

Gareth Bale at the Euros and in a few weeks a global audience will

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watch Wales again as we host the Champions League final in Cardiff.

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We will only achieve a global Britain if we work together. When we

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exit the European Union we were act in the interests of the Hall of the

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UK. As we have said before no decision currently taken by the

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Welsh government or Scottish parliament will be taken away from

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them. It is in the interests of the public, in the interests of

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communities, at the right powers that the right level to deliver a

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country that works in the best interests of all of its citizens and

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not in the of the politicians or nationalists in Scotland or Wales or

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wherever else they may be. Repatriation of powers will allow us

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to strengthen devolution and strengthen the union and empower

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communities. Business industry and communities around the country do

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not want the vision and separation, they want co-operation and ambition.

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Labour run the SNP have the choice. The option of making short-term

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political capital by pursuing a self-serving political Dean or

:20:29.:20:34.

working closely with the government to deliver the best outcome for all

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communities across the whole of the UK. This choice was brought into

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sharp focus this week as Nicola Sturgeon did a U-turn on her

:20:45.:20:49.

declaration that the 20 14th independence referendum was a once

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in a generation event. This is something we should never ever let

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her forget. We look outward to our shared

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future, not focus on inward, structures and processes. Plaid

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Cymru and the Scottish Nationalists cannot deny that the union has

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brought stability, peace and prosperity for centuries and yet

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they seek to destroy it with division and derision. Labour's

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alliance with the Welsh nationalists seeking a federal UK is a dangerous

:21:29.:21:34.

game. It may serve their short-term political agenda but will only

:21:35.:21:36.

undermine the union over longer term. We can be proud of our record

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on devolution. John Major started the peace process in Northern

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Ireland. David Cameron delivered more powers to Scotland than ever

:21:46.:21:51.

before. Under Theresa May the Wales act received Royal assent delivering

:21:52.:21:55.

a stronger more accountable devolution settlement for Wales with

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their unique funding settlement giving security and strengthen the

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back of the UK economy, something that was called for by Welsh Labour

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over decades but only delivered by a Conservative government. We are

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ancient nations that have occupied the British now is -- British Isles

:22:16.:22:23.

for centuries. United in our goals. A fairer society where everyone

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plays by the rules. A global Britain that is outward looking, and

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optimistic nation excited by the future in front of us and with this

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optimistic future I go back to the first wireless message sent in 1887,

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are you ready? We must ask yourself in 20 Zaventem, are we ready to grab

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the opportunities ahead? Are we ready to become a global trading

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nation? I be ready to build a stronger union, one that benefits

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the four great nations of Wales, Scotland, England and Northern

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Ireland? The answer is yes. The Welsh Secretary. Local elections

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are happening in just over six weeks. The Conservatives will be

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hoping to make gains like all the parties, and take control of

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counsel. I am joined by two candidates in the

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local elections. Both standing in Monmouthshire. Laura Jones and Sarah

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Jones. Monmouthshire I guess is one of your stronghold in local

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government terms. Where else are you hoping to do well? I think we will

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do well across the board. It is very exciting to see so many young people

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at the conference and they are our candidates this year so we have new

:23:55.:23:57.

blood going into the party and fighting on the doorsteps across

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Wales so Monmouthshire will lead the way and I think we will do a stream

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the well and in Glamorgan and other places. I think it will be across

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the board we will be seeing positivity. This week has not been

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the best but generally the national mood is good for us, everybody likes

:24:18.:24:21.

Theresa May. That is putting it mildly. It has been a rocky week for

:24:22.:24:26.

the government. Do those issues come up on the doorstep or are people

:24:27.:24:32.

more interested in schools, and is being collected? These issues will,

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but ultimately it is our job to reassure and give confidence that we

:24:37.:24:40.

will represent our residents' issues. The main priorities tend to

:24:41.:24:50.

be focused on schools, education, recycling, and things around

:24:51.:24:55.

business rates, which is a real issue in Monmouthshire in

:24:56.:24:58.

particular. Those will be the dominating factors but of course the

:24:59.:25:01.

national picture will be of relevance. We as the party are

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leading the way on fighting for the business rate relief scheme to be

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absolutely fair and to help those businesses who have been affected by

:25:12.:25:16.

in some cases a 200% rise. The UK Government has had stick on that. Do

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the Tories get stick on the doorstep for being the party of austerity

:25:22.:25:27.

putting pressure on those social services and whatever? We have a

:25:28.:25:33.

fantastic track record in Wales and in Monmouthshire for keeping more

:25:34.:25:37.

money in people's pockets but the levelling really good services. We

:25:38.:25:40.

are leading the way and showing the Conservatives are the ones to do

:25:41.:25:45.

that. We can sure we are reducing inefficiencies across local

:25:46.:25:48.

government so Monmouthshire take that as best practice. Is that not

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called for cuts? Not at all. We are keeping open libraries, leisure

:25:58.:26:00.

centres, we are just doing things more effectively and taking a

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business minded approach and making sure we have a local government that

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is sustainable for the future. As the party come together again after

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Brexit, after the Brexit campaign which revealed deep divisions within

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the Conservatives? You were for Brexit. Yes. Are there members of

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the party you are back on speaking terms with? I always was on speaking

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terms with them. When Theresa May announced that Article 50 would be

:26:33.:26:36.

triggered there was a general cheer and there is optimism for the

:26:37.:26:40.

future. I felt that anyway and that there would be excitement about the

:26:41.:26:45.

future and how Britain can be in the future and Wales and what effect

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will have on us and it is going to be a positive effect the European

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Union. Were you for Brexit? No. On different sides of the fence on this

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ones. Are you one of the pessimists that Andrew Davies was talking about

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earlier? Absolutely not. I am about creating opportunity about this,

:27:10.:27:13.

seeing the positives. I am excited about the future, I can see us

:27:14.:27:18.

developing and creating links at every level, local government,

:27:19.:27:21.

national government, Welsh government, and we will do the

:27:22.:27:25.

residents forward with us. It is positive. You do not see it as a

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problem that someone like yourself or the Prime Minister can be against

:27:32.:27:36.

Brexit and all of a sudden it is a great opportunity. Do people believe

:27:37.:27:40.

that? It is about the democratic will of the people. It is about

:27:41.:27:46.

taking forward that option they have taken an doing that effectively in

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getting behind that. I think we are altogether positive working together

:27:52.:27:55.

a really strong party because of it. The only party reflecting that. The

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only credible party to take this forward. The Prime Minister said the

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Conservatives were winning in Wales. Estyn thing to say given that you

:28:06.:28:10.

lost seats in the assembly elections last year. Is it important you

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bounce back? The timing of the last election coincided with the European

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referendum and people were confused about what they were voting for so

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Ukip got a big surge because people thought they were voting and that

:28:24.:28:28.

was a way of showing the nation that the Prime Minister that they wanted

:28:29.:28:33.

to leave the European Union. You can take you kept out of it. Going

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forward in the council elections and the assembly elections in the future

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I think we'll have a massive surge of Conservative support again and

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Ukip will get forgotten. That is why you lost ground. You think it was

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Ukip getting your support. Definitely. I think everyone is

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united as a party behind Theresa May who has done the party a lot of

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good. She wants a stronger federal united Britain and that resonates

:29:08.:29:14.

with a lot of people -- fairer. People want to get on the doorstep

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of goods across that message. It has inspired our message to get the

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message across. Do you think that the Prime Minister

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is playing a risky game? She's taking a strong leadership role and

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she is playing right. I think the passion and enthusiasm that we all

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showed and the drive that she showed and the commitment to us as a union

:29:45.:29:48.

is fantastic. It is going to be really positive for us. It is very

:29:49.:29:52.

unhelpful that the SNP want to put up some sort of Hadrian 's Wall, the

:29:53.:29:57.

Scottish people will pay for that. The Scottish people voted to Remain

:29:58.:30:00.

and the Scottish Government do not feel as if the UK Government is

:30:01.:30:05.

listening to them and paying them respect. It is in the benefit of

:30:06.:30:09.

everyone that our country unites and we work together to get the best

:30:10.:30:15.

role possible. Britain is now looking outwardly for investment. I

:30:16.:30:18.

think Scotland will miss out if they do not come with us on that journey.

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What about the Conservatives in the National Assembly, what would be

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your feeling about them working with other parties to try and form some

:30:28.:30:32.

sort of government or alternative to Labour? Wales needs a change from

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Labour. I wish and hope that the Conservative Party will be able to

:30:40.:30:43.

do that on their own. I would not like to work alongside other parties

:30:44.:30:49.

but we are desperate for a change in Wales. There has been a decade of

:30:50.:30:55.

failure from Wales across the board, in health, in education, we are

:30:56.:31:00.

still lagging behind, we saw Justin going on about how well they are

:31:01.:31:04.

doing an education in England and comparison to Wales and it makes you

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think, all these policies going forward, putting technical colleges

:31:10.:31:12.

and more money into further education colleges, why can we not

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have that? You say that and Labour trash your record but on the

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doorstep, do the voters distinguish between all these different tiers of

:31:21.:31:25.

government or is it difficult to get a hearing? There is still an issue

:31:26.:31:31.

with the understanding of what layers of government responsible for

:31:32.:31:35.

what area and that is a job for us all, to re-engage with the

:31:36.:31:38.

electorate -- electorate and make that understanding clearer, to make

:31:39.:31:42.

sure that that level of scrutiny takes place because at the moment,

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accountability is difficult there is not that level of understanding by

:31:47.:31:49.

the electorate in terms of who is responsible for what. That will be

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our job on the doorstep over the next couple of months and so far we

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have had a great response. I am really confident that we have got a

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role to play and that is something we will continue. I think in

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education and health, that is where people are most

:32:06.:32:24.

confused but on the doorstep, it is the local issues that matter and

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that is what we care about and that is what we are delivering on and we

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have a good track record. Thank you both very much. Some of their

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candidates in the local elections. In the afternoon session at the

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conference, the focus was on assembly matters and delegates heard

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from the party's spokesperson on health, Angela Burns. One of her

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main themes was about how to create better services for young people.

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When I speak about securing the future, I think of the children and

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young people of Wales and what we need to do to ensure that they grow

:32:45.:32:48.

into robust and healthy adults, able to contribute effectively to the

:32:49.:32:52.

economy and culture of our nation. We need to not just educate young

:32:53.:32:57.

people but look to their physical and emotional well-being, the habits

:32:58.:33:00.

and lifestyle choices made by young people could stay with them for life

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and the Welsh Conservatives have begun to set out our vision for

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childhood, where we effectively combat health inequalities which in

:33:09.:33:12.

turn will give those of future adults are much better chance at

:33:13.:33:17.

education and of delivering skills. Where we give opportunities, develop

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promise and allow aspiration. Aspiration! A dirty word under

:33:24.:33:28.

Labour's books. It was Mrs Thatcher and her aspirations speech and

:33:29.:33:31.

everyone of us that brought us the right to buy our homes and it is the

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left-wingers in the National Assembly from Wales who seek to

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crash that aspiration under their heels. Shame on them, I say.

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APPLAUSE. Because aspirational young people are happy people. Secure in

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their skins and able to deal with the rough and tumble of life. It is

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vital that our vision for childhood seeks to educate children about the

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importance and that big of well-being. Obesity is one of the

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ticking time bomb is facing the country today and our children and

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young people are at the most overweight in the United Kingdom.

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There are chances of having a stroke, a heart attack, getting

:34:14.:34:17.

cancer or diabetes are stratospheric. And they are likely

:34:18.:34:23.

to die ten years earlier than they should. I am concerned over the

:34:24.:34:26.

reduction in the number of hours that Welsh pupils spend doing PE.

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These figures have got worse over recent years and we must surely be

:34:30.:34:34.

able to see the link between exercise, I reduction in exercise in

:34:35.:34:37.

schools and our burgeoning facts about one in four children are

:34:38.:34:45.

labelled overweight or obese. We must not forget mental well-being.

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Many of these kids are driven to extremes of weight, too fat or too

:34:50.:34:52.

thin because of the pressures they feel as to what is expected of them

:34:53.:34:57.

and how they should look. There are serious issues surrounding the

:34:58.:35:00.

unhealthy images found both on social media and in much of our

:35:01.:35:04.

tabloid press. Mix this with the gamut of emotions that young

:35:05.:35:07.

teenagers, girls in particular have to deal with on a daily basis and

:35:08.:35:09.

the pressures that social media brings to bear to look

:35:10.:35:28.

good, to have sex, to do anything to be with the in crowd, to be

:35:29.:35:31.

perfect... It is no wonder that many of our young children struggle to

:35:32.:35:33.

find that equilibrium. It is not just the young they need to be

:35:34.:35:36.

healthy and happy. Loneliness and isolation are the modern curse,

:35:37.:35:38.

particularly among the elderly, the breed, the most vulnerable and our

:35:39.:35:40.

rural communities and that is why the Welsh Conservatives would bring

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forward a vision for health. From cradle to grave, how we can support

:35:43.:35:46.

all of us to be healthier, how we will build a better sense of

:35:47.:35:50.

well-being and how we will seek to deliver us from health inequalities

:35:51.:35:54.

that plague young and old alike and how we will support those of us who

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suffer ill health or disability. There are many issues surrounding

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the provision of health care and the health of our but I can talk about.

:36:05.:36:10.

You all know the problems. Waiting 226 days for a hip operation in

:36:11.:36:16.

Wales. In England, you can be seen in 76 days. 107 days for cataract

:36:17.:36:21.

treatment in England, 58. And if you want your hernia fixed in England,

:36:22.:36:26.

you wait 46 days but in Wales, it is a staggering 106 days. Access to

:36:27.:36:31.

drugs over the border that we cannot get here, new and approved

:36:32.:36:37.

treatments that you have to for or that get denied over 50% get turned

:36:38.:36:43.

down. And social care system much valued, much needed, but more than

:36:44.:36:48.

creaking at the seams. I have met with numerous patient groups,

:36:49.:36:52.

charities, representatives of many health organisations and I often

:36:53.:36:56.

receive the same message, which is that of difficulties in recruitment

:36:57.:37:00.

and the problems facing our ever-changing health needs. For you

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and I to be healthy, we need the NHS to be healthy and one of the major

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challenges in securing our future is how do we look after our NHS. The

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NHS is Wales 's largest employer with around 89,000 people in the

:37:16.:37:20.

workforce and these individuals often work under immense and

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challenging pressures as our numbers of people with complex and chronic

:37:24.:37:27.

conditions continue to rise. I would like to take this moment to thank

:37:28.:37:33.

the NHS staff of Wales and covers, I would ask you to thank them.

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APPLAUSE. -- conference. Under pressure, underfunded and in the

:37:44.:37:47.

face of great changes they keep going, to deliver to us a health

:37:48.:37:51.

service we all see as a birthright. Thank you, I say and thank you again

:37:52.:37:56.

and I say this to the workforce of the national Health Service, I say

:37:57.:38:00.

this to you, the 89,000 people we rely on, the Welsh Conservatives

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will support you. We are listening and have listened to GPs who simply

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do not have the hours of the resources to cope with the level of

:38:11.:38:14.

demand. Two nurses and doctors that being around hospitals, multitasking

:38:15.:38:19.

and waiting endlessly for beds to be free so they can commence vital

:38:20.:38:23.

operations, to mental health professionals under resourced and

:38:24.:38:27.

harried. The hospital managers making impossible choices, two

:38:28.:38:31.

radiographers and pharmacist, occupational therapist, palliative

:38:32.:38:35.

care and chronic care nurses, physiotherapist, I tell you, the

:38:36.:38:37.

Welsh Conservatives are listening. We are listening to trainee doctors

:38:38.:38:42.

who want to have secure opportunities here in Wales. Two

:38:43.:38:47.

junior doctors wanting to specialise and says having to move away, two

:38:48.:38:54.

nurses wanting to see far more support and a commitment to safe

:38:55.:38:59.

staffing levels in all areas of the NHS, the Welsh Conservatives are

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listening. APPLAUSE. And we will do, we will

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revolutionise the funding of primary care by readjusting the balance of

:39:16.:39:19.

funding between the primary and secondary provision. You vote us in

:39:20.:39:22.

and these are the things that we will deliver. We will keep people

:39:23.:39:27.

out of hospital and resource the teams that can work with GPs to

:39:28.:39:33.

ensure safe clinical services, and outstanding care with the emphasis

:39:34.:39:37.

being given on well-being. Only 13.6% of funding in the NHS goes

:39:38.:39:44.

into primary care. They see 90% of the people and it is an imbalance

:39:45.:39:48.

that has gone on far too long and we well in our vision for health seek

:39:49.:39:52.

to redress that too far more proportionate levels of funding.

:39:53.:39:57.

Under the Welsh Conservatives, mental health will no longer be the

:39:58.:40:02.

Cinderella service of the NHS. Children and adults who wait years

:40:03.:40:05.

for services will find that our vision for help understands the

:40:06.:40:12.

importance of this area. With one in four people in Wales are likely to

:40:13.:40:16.

suffer some mental health issue, this must not be an area

:40:17.:40:19.

marginalised and overlooked any more and we will look to develop a robust

:40:20.:40:24.

vision for mental health that delivers good crisis management and

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long-term support. APPLAUSE. We will revolutionise the

:40:27.:40:38.

care of the elderly and they think Suzy Davies started laying that out

:40:39.:40:41.

and we will look to protect a carers. We need to look again at

:40:42.:40:45.

whether hospital care is the best option for elderly patients,

:40:46.:40:49.

especially those with the condition of dementia. Unlike Labour, we will

:40:50.:40:54.

look all over the world for best practice, for example there is

:40:55.:40:57.

strong evidence in Australia over the effectiveness of using community

:40:58.:41:04.

centres. There -- there it is an holistic way to insure that these

:41:05.:41:06.

people maintain their independence for as long as possible. We have to

:41:07.:41:10.

tackle the revolving doors of hospitals, we have seen a trend

:41:11.:41:14.

where medical staff become more specialist and not practising

:41:15.:41:17.

general medicine. In the elderly, this can lead to single issue is

:41:18.:41:21.

being treated and patients having to be readmitted under a different

:41:22.:41:25.

doctor to be treated for other conditions they may have had or

:41:26.:41:28.

developed during their original illness. This revolving door effect

:41:29.:41:33.

is not only costly but very harmful to the patient's quality of life and

:41:34.:41:37.

the chances of making a full recovery. Our vision for health will

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seek to fund specialist training post for to dairy attrition is to

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ensure a more holistic approach is taken to geriatric care. We restate

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our commitment to health research and development. I visited

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innovative health facilities with robotic pharmacist to state of care

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units and the next-generation medical instrument manufacturing, I

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have met with re-searchers on the brink of exciting new discoveries

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and those just slogging away determined to solve some of our

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greatest health problems. The skills definitely exist in Wales to front

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up to the challenges we have but we need to be brave and have the

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courage to make difficult decisions. It is only by being brave, by

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displaying political courage, by taking tough decisions, by investing

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properly, by believing in our people and our country that we can secure

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the future of Wales. And that is the Welsh Conservatives for you. We will

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do that. Thank you very much. APPLAUSE. That was Angela Burns on

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health and let's stay in the conference hall and hear from the

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party's education spokesperson Darren Millar. He attacked the

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Labour record on schools and told the party faithful that the children

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of Wales needed to be given every chance in life. If we are ever going

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to achieve this Wales that works for everyone, we need to give our

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children and our young people the very best opportunities in life. We

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Welsh Conservatives understand that, which is why we have but also hard

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to save precious maternity and paediatric services in hospitals

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across Wales. Working with my colleagues in North Wales, we

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managed to secure a U-turn on plans to scrap doctor led maternity

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services at one hospital. APPLAUSE. Paul Davies and Angela

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Burns are continuing to campaign to return 24-hour paediatric services

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to a hospital in Pembrokeshire. If our young people in Wales are to

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reach their full potential in life then our education system in Wales

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must improve. Our children deserve a first class education system that is

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world beating and where every child can succeed regardless of their

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background. Successive Welsh Labour led government have failed to

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deliver one. Education standards have been slipping here in Wales.

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The most recent international statistics published by the OECD

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reconfirmed Wales' recent status as officially the worst performing

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education system in the UK. Of the 78 countries taking part in their

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tests Wales ranked lower than Vietnam and Estonia in reading,

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mathematics and science. Despite of all the tough talking, all of the

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promises to do better from the First Minister over the years, the results

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showed that Wales has gone backwards since 2006, marking a decade of

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underachievement. It is a scandal of monumental proportions. For all

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their crocodile tears that they have shared over those facts, we must

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never forget that Plaid Cymru and the Liberal Democrats must share in

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the responsibility for these valuers. By propping up labour be

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have been partners in crime when it comes to the fillings in our Welsh

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education system and we must never let the people of Wales forget it.

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When this First Minister came to power back in 2009 he promised to

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better fund Welsh schools and turnaround performance. We have

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heard this sort of rhetoric before from previous Labour leaders. We

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remember education, education, education. Instead since Carwyn

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Jones took the helm we have seen falling standards, school closures

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and tens of mullions of taxpayers' money wasted on gimmicks like free

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breakfasts and free toothbrushes for school children. Call me

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old-fashioned but I believe parents not teachers should be giving their

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children breakfast and showing them how to brush their teeth. The

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reality is that there is no such thing as a free breakfasts. The tens

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of millions wasted on cornflakes and rice crispies could have been spent

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on teachers, textbooks and technology in our schools. In

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21st-century Wales there are still schools without even an internet

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connection. It is unbelievable. Because my opposition to Labour's

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so-called free school breakfasts one of the Labour AM is dubbed me below

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the serial killer -- cereal killer. She thought the comparison to that

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was an insult. I am proud to be compared to one of the greatest

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Prime Ministers this country has ever seen. Margaret Thatcher took on

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communism, transformed our economic fortunes and unlike the Welsh Labour

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Party she never cut and NHS budget. Instead of teachers spending the

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time that they have teaching children to brush their teeth we

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should be allowing them to get their teeth into teaching. We should be

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empowering them to make the difference they entered the

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profession to deliver. We Welsh Conservatives believe the best way

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to help the bull improve their prospects in life is through

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education and employment, not welfare or hand-outs. Assembly

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member Darren Millar. The conference has come to a close. After all of

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the speeches had finished our correspondent got up with the Welsh

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Conservative leader for final thoughts.

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We saw him on the stage delivering his speech. The leader of the Welsh

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Conservatives joins me now. A lot of your time concentrating on the local

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elections, be mourning as you see at Labour and Plaid Cymru as the victim

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always saying that. What was the pitch? Surely what the next big

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challenge for the Welsh Conservatives are, that we have the

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local elections in six weeks. The speech was more generally focusing

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on the opportunities ahead for Wales and saying we have to turn those

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into positive outcomes for people and communities and that starts at

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local level. Local government elections are good chance to put a

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positive message, looking at the horizon, being positive about the

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future and grabbing opportunities. Is it difficult for you at local

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government level? So much of the talk is about cuts and squeezing of

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budget. When you are trying to say we will look after you at the same

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time it is the UK Government bringing those cuts in place. Is

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that difficult to square? When it comes to local government cut the

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Welsh government decide how to carve up the cake. Some of the choices,

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should we take credit for new schools being built or new

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infrastructure projects? We deserve some of the credit yet the Welsh

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government will say they are taking those decisions. They cannot have it

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both ways. The Welsh government decide how to cut up the cake. In

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Monmouthshire where we run the council under the great leadership

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of Peter Fox we have used imaginative solutions to keep open

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leisure centres, play parks, and make sure that lumps on in the

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streets and potholes filled. If you want that success in your community

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voting Welsh Conservative will ensure that. What happened to the

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Big Society, getting people more involved with their local community?

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Volunteering to offer certain services. Has that gone away or

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should that still be playing a part in a conservative pitch for voters?

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Localism is very much in the DNA of the party. We believe the best

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people to deliver an work to provide local services are local people. If

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you look at Wales as a whole the type of service you have to deliver

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in one area might fall under social services whereas it would be

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different in an area like Cardiff. The urban nature of card you would

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have to have different solutions. You cannot have a one size fits all

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mentality. What we have had from Welsh government of the centralising

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of power and control when as Conservatives we believe that local

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communities delivering the solutions in their locality are best placed to

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solve some of the challenges we face and unlock the opportunities there

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for us. The other issue is looking at what could after Brexit. How

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tough a week has it been for you as the conservative looking at

:50:51.:50:52.

Westminster with a U-turn on the budget, quite an embarrassing lying

:50:53.:50:57.

down? A serious set of allegations and a big fine by the Electoral

:50:58.:51:01.

Commission because rules have been broken in terms of the way elections

:51:02.:51:06.

have been conducted by the Conservatives. As somebody standing

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a little bit removed from Westminster is that frustrating to

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see that element happening? None of those election rules were broken

:51:15.:51:18.

here in Wales but as the party we take them very seriously and we have

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paid the fine and we will take on board the recommendations. Sadly all

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political parties have issues from time to time and money has to be

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paid and the remedial measures have to be taken. If you take the U-turn

:51:32.:51:35.

as you put it on national insurance I would not call it an

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embarrassment, that is a government listening and responding to what

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people are saying they want to happen. Often politicians get

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criticised for not responding and ploughing ahead no matter what. Here

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you have a positive outcome from a Chancellor who has delivered

:51:54.:51:57.

economic success with economic growth continuing under him, record

:51:58.:52:02.

numbers of people in employment, and many good measures with increased

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capital spending from big infrastructure projects... You would

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not have allowed a manifesto pledge to be broken like that. You would

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have said let us keep the promises we made. We are not breaking a

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manifesto commitment because it is not happening. Let us move on. There

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is more positive things to talk about. That is not happening. End of

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story. As a self-employed person I spent 25 years in my first live

:52:32.:52:37.

before I went into politics making sure understanding what the

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self-employed need and required to take the risk and be entrepreneurs

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and I would have been lobbying very hard to ensure this did not happen

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and I am pleased to see that the Chancellor has listened and we move

:52:49.:52:54.

on building a stronger economy for Wales and the United Kingdom. Would

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you prefer to have Theresa May and Philip Hammond or Jeremy Corbyn and

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John McDonnell? I take it that is hypothetical! You can answer! Carwyn

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Jones saying about the possibility of a trade war between England,

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Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland if there are not clear procedures in

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place. It is the scare story of the week from the eternal pessimist. We

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have had a union of the United Kingdom for many centuries, the most

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successful union the world has seen. We can overcome any of these issues

:53:34.:53:39.

in the devolved era. We need UK frameworks for agriculture, regional

:53:40.:53:43.

aid, funding, and I believe we should have them, and that is

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something I came out early on... I was ridiculed and now it seems to be

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in play. Instead of being pessimistic and looking at his feet,

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Carwyn Jones, week up and smell the coffee and look at the horizon, the

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sunshine does come out, let us work to make the world and even better

:54:04.:54:08.

place. The Welsh Conservative leader. The big challenge in the

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immediate future for the Welsh Conservatives as the local

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elections. What are their prospects? They should gain some ground is

:54:25.:54:29.

logically because the last set of elections was rough for them. This

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time they are still in power in Westminster so you would not expect

:54:34.:54:36.

them to make big gains but with Labour in a very bad week you would

:54:37.:54:41.

expect them to win some ground in the cities and also in rural Wales

:54:42.:54:47.

where there is a gradual lessening of the dominance of Independence

:54:48.:54:50.

with people standing under party banners. You would expect them to

:54:51.:54:56.

move forward a little bit but no huge breakthrough. They have to

:54:57.:55:00.

bounce back from last year's assembly elections when they fell

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back a bit. They fell back that really because the vagaries of the

:55:05.:55:08.

assembly electoral system and the arrival on the scene of Ukip on the

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list seat. That is not a problem for them this time. This is the first

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past the post election. The sort of election they are used to fighting.

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The difficulty for them if it is very difficult for a party in

:55:25.:55:27.

government in Westminster to gain ground in local elections. Big

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themes, big issues in the background. Yes, but local elections

:55:33.:55:39.

are local and people vote on local issues so you could see some fluke

:55:40.:55:43.

results and freak results and differences between areas. That is

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it. It is Labour's turn at the same time next week. Hope you can join us

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then. Thank you for watching.

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