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-Hello and a warm welcome to Ffermio. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
-In this programme... | 0:00:10 | 0:00:11 | |
-..we look at the future structure -of agriculture... | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
-..politically, with regards to -young people and environmentally. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:21 | |
-Brexit is something -that will affect people of all ages. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
-We talk to some -leading industry figures. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
-One story from Cardiff and another -from London does create problems. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
-What Theresa May has said -scares me a little. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
-It's essential that we have -a free market with no tariffs. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
-Alun is in the Brecon Beacons... | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
-..to see how farmers -and the National Park work together. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
-Someone has to take care -of the countryside. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
-I think we can show that we've -accomplished some very good work. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:03 | |
-The YFC's contribution -to rural communities is important. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
-Every year, -the best members are given awards. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
-Daloni meets this year's -Wales YFC Senior Member. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
-Dafydd Jones lives at Caerberllan -in Llanfihangel-y-Pennant. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
-He works on the farm -with brother Tudor... | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
-..and parents Robert and Ceinwen. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
-With 1,200 Welsh Mountain Sheep... | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
-..as well as a herd of Welsh Black -and Aberdeen Angus cattle... | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
-..there's plenty of work here -to keep him busy. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
-Is the weather always as wonderful -as this, Dafydd? | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
-If only it were! | 0:01:52 | 0:01:53 | |
-Although Caerberllan -is an upland farm... | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
-..there's a huge amount -of lovely flat land. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
-Yes, it's a unique valley. -We're really lucky on this farm. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:06 | |
-There's not much soil here - -only a few inches. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
-As well as the farming, -you've had a busy year. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
-It has been busier than usual, -there's no doubt about that. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
-I've been a YFC member -since I was 13... | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
-..but this year -has been a unique year. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
-As the Wales YFC Senior Member... | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
-..what have you been doing -during the last year? | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
-It has been an enormous privilege. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
-The title also allowed me to sit -on the Wales management committee. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:41 | |
-It has been quite an eye-opener... | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
-..to learn more about -how the movement works from within. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
-Many members don't realize how much -work goes on behind the scenes. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
-Do you have a job -within your local club and area? | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
-This is the Bryncrug club area. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
-I was chairman last year, -but I haven't got a job this year. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
-I'm currently deputy chair -of Meirionnydd YFC... | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
-..and deputy chair of the -Wales YFC rural affairs committee. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
-Although the YFC -takes much of his time... | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
-..Dafydd earns his crust -here on the farm. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
-He loves handling the stock. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
-Do you only have Welsh sheep -at Caerberllan? | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
-Yes, only Welsh sheep. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:28 | |
-I keep a few Lleyn sheep. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:30 | |
-They're in among these -and are treated the same way. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
-And you have 1,200 of them? | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
-Yes. The count works for us. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
-We've run the same system -for a number of years. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
-The ewe lambs go onto the mountain. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
-We've never gone into Tir Gofal -or cut flock numbers. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
-We keep it steady. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:51 | |
-We keep it steady. - -Which ram will you put with these? | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
-These have had a Welsh ram. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
-This year, for the first time... | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
-..we've experimented -with Aberfield rams. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
-It's been a challenge -to sell Welsh ram lambs of late. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
-We're experimenting to see whether -there's a better market for a cross. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
-How do you see things going -with the Welsh Mountain sheep? | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
-It's a good sheep, -and it lives cheaply. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
-That's very important to me. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
-I can't stand sheep -that need a lot of attention. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:26 | |
-But we find it difficult -to sell the ram lambs... | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
-..so we're experimenting -to get a balance of other breeds. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:37 | |
-It's scanning day -at Caerberllan today... | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
-..and things are auguring well. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
-You're busy, Dafydd. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:50 | |
-You're busy, Dafydd. - -Plenty to do! | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
-Do you want to get through -the 1,200 today? | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
-Yes, if we can. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:56 | |
-Yes, if we can. - -Who's doing the scanning? | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
-Mr Emrys Lewis is scanning for us. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
-Mr Emrys Lewis is scanning for us. - -He's an expert! | 0:05:00 | 0:05:01 | |
-He's very good. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:02 | |
-How are they scanning today? | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
-How are they scanning today? - -Very well, so far. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
-So, a red mark for two lambs. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
-Yes, and nothing for a single. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
-And we don't want barren ones. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
-And we don't want barren ones. - -I haven't seen many yet. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
-I don't want to see triplets either. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:20 | |
-I don't want to see triplets either. - -You don't want to see them. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
-Will these all lamb outside? | 0:05:23 | 0:05:24 | |
-Will these all lamb outside? - -Yes, all outside. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
-When will you start lambing, Dafydd? | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
-The crossbreds start on 15 March, -those that have had a Texel ram. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
-The Welsh sheep, who've had -a Welsh ram, will be a week later. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
-How many crossbreds do you have? | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
-About 300 Welsh sheep -go to a crossbred ram. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
-They produce good lambs -for the market. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
-When those lambs are ready, -to which market will they go? | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
-We try different ones... | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
-..both the live market -and the slaughterhouse market. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
-They look great, Dafydd. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
-They look great, Dafydd. - -They're alright. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:02 | |
-Alright? | 0:06:02 | 0:06:03 | |
-Alright? - -Yes. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:04 | |
-They look good. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
-There have been Welsh Blacks -at Caerberllan for many a year. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
-These days, the Aberdeen Angus -keep them company. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
-All the cattle are in now, Dafydd. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
-All the cattle are in now, Dafydd. - -Yes, since the start of December. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
-With the weather we've had, -they're lucky to be where they are. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
-All the cattle -are black in colour, at least. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
-Yes, we've tried a lot -of different breeds over the years. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
-But recently, since 2011, -we've gone into the Aberdeen Angus. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
-It's proving to be -a good cow so far. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
-How many Welsh Blacks -and how many Aberdeens do you have? | 0:06:49 | 0:06:54 | |
-We cross back and forth a bit. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
-Personally, I think the best cow -you'll get is a cross. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
-It's always going to be better -than any pedigree cow you could buy. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
-Regarding the calves, how old -will they be when they're sold? | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
-Recently, we've been aiming -for 16 months. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
-About that, really. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:18 | |
-But looking at the way -the market's going... | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
-..younger will be the way to go. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
-Ten-month-old calves, even eight, -have been selling so well... | 0:07:24 | 0:07:29 | |
-..there's no point keeping them. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
-There are costs -with TB testing and so on... | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
-..so we may as well -get rid of them earlier. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
-You appear to be -a happy young farmer, Dafydd. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
-I'm very lucky -to have been born here. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
-You take it for granted, -living here every day. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
-The YFC has played -a big part in my life. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
-I'm very lucky -that Bryncrug is my local club. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
-We get on well -and have a lot of fun... | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
-..which is very important -in this industry. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
-It's a lonely industry at times, -especially in Meirionnydd. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
-It's almost -the most rural part of Wales. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
-It's important that young people -get together and enjoy themselves. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
-Six months after the UK decided -to leave the European Union... | 0:08:20 | 0:08:25 | |
-..the Prime Minister, Theresa May, -has outlined her objectives... | 0:08:25 | 0:08:30 | |
-..on how she sees the country -moving forwards in the future. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
-The big question is... | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
-..what effect will this have -on Welsh agriculture? | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
-At this year's annual -FUW breakfast in Cardiff Bay... | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
-..what was the reaction -to Theresa May's announcement... | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
-..that the UK -is leaving the Single Market? | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
-What did they make of Carwyn Jones -and Leanne Wood's White Paper... | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
-..on their priorities for Wales? | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
-The biggest problem -is the uncertainty. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
-What we need is leadership. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
-One story from Cardiff -and another from London... | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
-..does create problems for us. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
-The Single Market -is so important to Wales. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
-One third of our lambs -from our flocks go to Europe. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
-The worst-case scenario -of going with the WTO... | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
-..is that we'll have to pay -a 40-60% tariff on our lambs. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:28 | |
-It might be 80% on our beef. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
-We can't live with that. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
-I've heard the First Minister, -Carwyn Jones, say recently... | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
-..that agriculture -is important to Wales. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
-What Theresa May has said -scares me a little. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
-If we can't sell into Europe... | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
-..we have to look at how we can -sustain the Welsh rural economy. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:59 | |
-It might come from other sources, -but it won't happen overnight. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
-There is a cliff edge looming -two years from Article 50. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
-It's important that we have time -to go from one place to another. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
-It's essential that we have -a free market with no tariffs. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
-If we don't get it, we must look -at the reality of the situation. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:25 | |
-90% of exported agricultural -products go to Europe. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:30 | |
-It's easy enough to say it... | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
-..and I do welcome trade -with any country... | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
-..but if you look at it, -500 million people live in Europe. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
-That compares to 4.5 million -living in New Zealand. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
-New Zealand represents -just 1% of the European population. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:53 | |
-We have to look at it -in that context. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
-Euryn Jones is Regional -Agriculture Director with HSBC. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:04 | |
-How much of an impact has Brexit -had on Welsh agriculture up to now? | 0:11:05 | 0:11:11 | |
-Market prices strengthened -over the second half of last year. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:17 | |
-That's especially true -of the milk market. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
-Milk prices -have been very low for two years. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
-Those markets have strengthened. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
-For beef and lamb products... | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
-..the markets have benefitted -from a weaker pound. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
-It makes our exports -more competitive... | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
-..and imports -a little more expensive. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
-The Single Payment has also been -larger than in recent years. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
-A year ago, Huw Davies -of Trefaes Fawr, Newcastle Emlyn... | 0:11:43 | 0:11:48 | |
-..held an open day on his farm... | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
-..to highlight the wider importance -of agriculture to rural Wales. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:55 | |
-What were his impressions of what -the Prime Minister had to say? | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
-What would be the best deal for you? | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
-Personally, I'd like to keep -the deal that we have now. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
-If we know what we have, -we can keep going. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
-I would be happy if we found -new markets for our produce... | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
-..in addition to what we have now. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
-But the worry is -that Theresa May said... | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
-.."Out of Europe -means out of the Single Market". | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
-It's easy to come out... | 0:12:26 | 0:12:27 | |
-..but she hasn't said what other -markets will take our products. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
-That is a big worry. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
-I'm not happy -to lose what we have now. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
-Do you think that agriculture... | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
-..is getting a fair hearing -in the Brexit negotiations? | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
-No, not at all. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
-There's plenty of talk -and plenty of promises... | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
-..but I'm worried -about the end result. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
-I don't believe they think -that we are very important... | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
-..in the grand scheme of things. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
-I'm not sure they take enough notice -of rural affairs. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
-It's a huge worry. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
-You can't change things -within a year. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
-It takes time -to change from one market... | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
-..to one with other countries. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
-We know how long it has taken -to get our beef into America. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:25 | |
-We asked one expert -whether there are answers. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
-Wyn Morris is a lecturer -at Aberystwyth University. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
-When we lost that market during -the Foot and Mouth outbreak... | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
-..we saw the effect -it had on the industry. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
-In the short term... | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
-..I foresee a lack of investment -in the industry. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
-The opening of new markets -will be a slow process. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
-The big question is, -what will all this cost? | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
-When we make treaties... | 0:14:03 | 0:14:04 | |
-..it will favour some industries -and not others. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
-As we look to the future, -what can Welsh farmers expect? | 0:14:08 | 0:14:14 | |
-We have to be positive. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
-We have great produce. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:17 | |
-The industry has to work together... | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
-..and farmers -need to look at production costs. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
-Our produce -is recognized across the world. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
-That produce -can demand higher prices. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
-We have to make it work. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
-As far as farms are concerned, -we have to look at resources. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
-Maybe we should look more -towards tourism... | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
-..environmental projects -and diversification... | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
-..in order for us -to work efficiently... | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
-..and so that the resources -are used to their full potential. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
-That's all for part one, -but after the break... | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
-..Alun finds out how farmers -are working with a National Park. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:08 | |
-We'll see you in a few minutes. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
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-Subtitles - -Subtitles | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
-Welcome back. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:22 | |
-A scheme to protect common land in -the Brecon Beacons National Park... | 0:15:22 | 0:15:28 | |
-..has come to fruition -after co-operation between partners. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
-Alun went to see how much of -a difference this scheme has made. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
-Centuries of agriculture have -created the special landscape here. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
-In order to protect these fragile -habitats for future generations... | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
-..a unique partnership -has been established... | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
-..between the Brecon Beacons -National Park Authority... | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
-..the Welsh Government, -through Glastir... | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
-..and local grazing associations. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
-Wyn Morgan has worked hard -to nurture the relationship... | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
-..between landowners and grazers -as a park warden. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
-The grazers -lost their Tir Mynydd payments. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
-Then they saw that they could go -into Glastir on the mountain. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
-It was important then -that they had some support. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
-We saw an opportunity for us -to come in as a National Park... | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
-..to do something on the mountain. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
-We can't get money -to do much up here... | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
-..but there's an opportunity now -to work with these associations... | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
-..to put some projects together. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
-Looking back, one of the problems -was overgrazing. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
-Is that true these days? | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
-No, it isn't. As you can see, -it's going the other way now. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
-We're on Carreg Goch common. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
-There are only four grazers now. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
-We've fenced off some areas of -the Black Mountain for conservation. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
-If you go there today, -you wouldn't be able to walk there. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
-If all the mountain gets like that, -it'll be no good to anybody. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
-What's the outlook on persuading -farmers to put more sheep out? | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
-Why has that change happened? | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
-There are no young people -coming in to farm the mountain. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
-You have to be raised -on the mountain. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
-I imagine one of the challenges -in the days of modern agriculture... | 0:17:33 | 0:17:38 | |
-..is getting people to put any sort -of livestock up on a mountain. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
-Yes, there aren't many people -who keep cattle. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
-There's a huge cost -to feed them during winter. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
-People used to turn them -onto the mountain... | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
-..but the cattle -aren't available now. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
-The same is true of sheep. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
-They're too big -to survive here over winter. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
-Even the mountain farmers -send them down over the winter. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
-It's very costly. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
-It makes you wonder whether -they'll go back to smaller sheep... | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
-..and use the mountain a bit more. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
-It would be very nice to see that. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:15 | |
-It would be very nice to see that. - -That would be good. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:16 | |
-In the end, what we need -is a market for the lambs. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:21 | |
-That's it. The supermarkets -have made things the way they are. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
-They wanted bigger lamb joints. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
-Anything under 40 kilos -is a much cheaper price. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
-Over 40 kilos always sells best now. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
-Getting the mountain lambs -up to that is quite an achievement. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
-With the Park extending -for over 520 square miles... | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
-..there's quite an area -to look after. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
-One completed scheme -is the restoration of a sheepfold... | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
-..near Craig-y-Nos -in the Swansea Valley. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
-At its heart is one large circle. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
-It's a very interesting design. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
-You're right. -The whole fold is in a circle. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:04 | |
-The large circle is inside and the -small ones go off from the middle. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:10 | |
-As you can see, -all the holes go into each fold. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
-And those holes lead -to a special fold for each farm. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:18 | |
-Yes. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:19 | |
-I've had a piece of paper -from the chairman of Carreg Goch... | 0:19:19 | 0:19:25 | |
-..and the name of every farm -is on every fold. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
-I think those farms -are under forestry now. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
-They were small farms at that time. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
-You can see the size of the folds -and they're not very big. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
-This is key to understanding... | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
-..the history of land use -in this area. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
-You're right. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
-There are folds everywhere, -but nobody uses them now... | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
-..because everyone -gathers at the farm now. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
-They're all deteriorating. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
-The folds that haven't been used for -years have a lot of growth in them. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
-The sheep that are on the mountain -in the summer... | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
-..are starting -to travel through them now. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
-They're in and out -seeking a bit of shade, probably. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
-Garry Williams from Blaencennen -Farm, Gwynfe, Llangadog... | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
-..has been a key part -of the grazing partnership. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
-The grazers we have now -on the Black Mountain here... | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
-..include Carreg Goch and Palleg. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
-Two we have here on the Black -Mountain have gone into Glastir. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:38 | |
-You have Glanaman and Pedol y Twrch -and Mynydd Myddfai. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:44 | |
-Five of us have gone in. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
-We have land around the farm... | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
-..but also, -we're what you call commoners. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
-We have rights to graze sheep, -cattle and horses. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
-Those rights -go back years and years. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
-Usually, if you buy a farm... | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
-..you get the rights to put stock -out on the mountain with the farm. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
-It's not easy to make a living -on an upland farm. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
-Lots of schemes have been lost. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:16 | |
-Is that what drove you -towards Glastir, mainly? | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
-Through modulation... | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
-..we've lost close to 20% -of the Single Payment. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
-Also, the HLCA and Tir Mynydd -have come to an end. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:34 | |
-So we had to look at the -Glastir scheme on the mountain... | 0:21:34 | 0:21:40 | |
-..to try to get some money -back into the area. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:45 | |
-At first glance... | 0:21:46 | 0:21:47 | |
-..the Brecon Beacons and the -Black Mountain area look wonderful. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
-But there are problems -which need to be resolved... | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
-..to ensure a thriving future -for the National Park. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
-The co-operation between -the Black Mountain grazers... | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
-..and the Park Authority -is obviously paying off here. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
-The National Park and the grazers... | 0:22:06 | 0:22:11 | |
-..definitely work much more closely -than we used to. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
-Fair play to the Park, they -wanted us to go into the scheme... | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
-..and they helped us to go into it. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
-At the end of the day, -they own the mountain... | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
-..but they need us too as grazers... | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
-..to help them to manage -and look after the mountain. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
-I think the Government -and the Assembly... | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
-..will be quite happy with that. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
-These schemes last five years -at the moment. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
-What's next? | 0:22:49 | 0:22:50 | |
-We've heard that this scheme -will go on until 2019. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:56 | |
-We don't know what's happening -after that. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
-We don't know what's happening -with every scheme. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
-I hope that we've shown -the Government and the Assembly... | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
-..the work is going on here. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:09 | |
-Someone has to look after -the countryside. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
-Someone has to do it. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
-I think we can show that we've -accomplished some very good work. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
-That's it for this week. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
-We'll be back -at the same time next week. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
-Until then, thanks for your company. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
-Goodbye. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:39 | |
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