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coming up on Match of the Day Extra, Mourinho and Pellegrini go

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head to head for the first time in English football as Chelsea and

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Manchester city need. Is the north-east derby already a win for

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Gus Poyet at? We will have -- Will Hernandez's Golby a defining moment

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for David Moyes? Who is the best partnership in the league? And who

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will take over at Crystal Palace? With me in the studio, Mark

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Lawrenson, Conor McNamara and Matt Lawton. We want your views as well.

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And we want your views as well and who the best strike partnership in

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the Premier League is. It was a debate that started on 606 last

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night. Is it Rooney and van Persie, or storage and Suarez? -- storage.

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We will give you the results later. What caught your view yesterday,

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Mark? I just think the 70th minute at Manchester United, from there to

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the end of the game was probably the biggest moment in David Moyes's

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managerial career. If they had been beaten by Stoke City yesterday,

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imagine the headlines on every single back page this morning. I

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think you are right. If they had lost, that would have been the main

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story. The Liverpool from forums -- performance struck me. Luis Suarez

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was sensational. I was uncomfortable with the desire to keep him over the

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summer. But I guess they felt quite justified in that yesterday. You

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were at St Mary's. There has to come a point where Southampton are not

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called the surprise package? I thought it might have been a banana

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skin. But they pressed, they give the opposition. The attack the

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fullbacks and the central defenders. You expect them to get caught out.

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But last weekend they did it at Old Trafford, last week they did it at

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Fulham. They deserve to be third. We will look back over yesterday's

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games in detail later. First, let's look ahead to one of today's big

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games. Chelsea against Manchester city. Here are the thoughts of both

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managers. It is a, yes. It is a very good team. But every match is a test

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and every match is three points. It doesn't make a difference. Of

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course, it is an important moment. It is always an important moment to

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play the team that has a chance to win the Premier League. I repeat the

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same thing we -- I said when we played against Manchester United, it

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is a match of six points. They play at home. This is our third game

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playing away. We hope we can continue winning. Will have you

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enjoyed dealing with more out of those managers? -- who have you

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enjoyed dealing with? I'm afraid, we are all a bit soft when it comes to

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Jose Mourinho. You have gone moist in the eye! We were very pleased he

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came back, losing Fergie. It has left a huge hole in English

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football. To get Joseph back was a massive boost. I find him utterly

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fascinating. He can be maddening, he can be a courageous. In his first

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term, some of the things he said and did, he incurred the wrath of UEFA,

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got branded in -- an enemy of football. For us, as an industry,

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great copy. Pellegrini is the chill Chilean. He is not great copy.

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Intriguing all the same. He is probably what that football club

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needed, a chilled Chilean. Somebody who is not going to get too carried

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away? That is exactly what he is doing. With the two Spaniards they

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have got in there who are running the clubs in -- club in terms of the

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players they bring in, you can suddenly see there seems to be a

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plan. At Southampton that is what they are doing. The Chairman, I

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didn't particularly like him for what he did to Nigel Adkins, but he

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has got a plan. With Manchester city, there is an element of that.

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My problem with Manchester city would be that without Vincent

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Kompany, they are not the same team. I think there is a parallel with

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Pochettino and Pellegrini coming in under the radar. You don't get to

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cross-examine them when you interview them. But it keeps them

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below the radar. They are quite happy with that. Let the team do the

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talking for them. Pellegrini is a very intelligent man but he doesn't

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feel the need to entertain as Mourinho does. Just continue this, ,

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this is great, travel abroad with Manchester City,

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which you already have, do you sense a difference on those club trips?

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Yes, I don't think Mancini with a great entertainer either. He didn't

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see press conferences as the stage that Mourinho does. He was more at

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home with it. He felt more confident having won the title. Pellegrini is

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quite a humble guy. Because he is such a tall man, you stand beside

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him and he is a big presence. His personality doesn't need to be as

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loud. Imagine the dressing room when he talks. Everybody stops. A good

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yardstick for a manager is when everybody in the club likes him. I

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don't think it Manchester City that was the case with Mancini. I don't

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do was particularly well liked. This guy gives me the impression he is.

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We get a difference in philosophy? In terms of structure and hierarchy

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and how both clubs are run? Possibly. There is a very definite

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modern European structure at Manchester city. They are seen as

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the two great moneybags of English football? Yes. City are being quite

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cute. I think they will emerge at the head of the pack at the end of

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the season. They have the most complete squad, the most complete

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team and they have got a very calm manager. The guys from Barcelona, as

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we talked about, there is a plan, there is a training ground cumin.

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You are always going to have that settling in period and getting used

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to the new owners. You had the period with Garry Cook. You had that

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change at the top. They now seem settled. I think they are only going

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one way. Have you been to city lately due Mac all the buildings.

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The infrastructure around the stadium... And they have inherited

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the gasworks. They are virtually cleaning the soil. As you do! You

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don't want dirty soil! Let's move onto the big derby in the North East

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Sunderland against Newcastle. I think there is just as much pressure

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on them to win it. They need to start winning games. Goss will know

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that. I have seen them at home twice this year and they have done OK.

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They are not far away. United, I thought they were good. At Fulham,

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they were good. We have to respect them. It is not a foregone

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conclusion. Any result there would be a good result. A draw or a win.

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But we want to win if we can. If you need to win one game in this

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football club, it is this derby. We know that. We need a win, we need

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the three points. We are desperate to go there and do well. If we can

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start doing that in this game, it is perfection. They are always special.

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I don't think you can analyse these games. It is unique. Let's bring in

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Kevin Kilbane at the Stadium of light. We heard Gus Poyet say that

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if there is one game that needs to be won, it is this one. Alan Pardew

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says the pressure is on Sunderland. Is it? Possibly. This is the game

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that Sunderland need to turn their season around. They have not won

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this season. Looking at them at Swansea last week, when they

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conceded three goals in about seven or eight minutes, that is the

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telling factor. As soon as you concede, they cannot stop teams

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scoring against them. They need to improve on that now. Let's look at

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the table. They are seven points adrift. This could be a hopeless

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cause for a Gus Poyet very quickly? It could be. The disappointing thing

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about last week was that you kind of felt that once di Canio had gone,

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there would be a lift at the football club. It just has not

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happened. I watched them against Liverpool. The moment Liverpool

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scored, their confidence just disappeared. Beating Newcastle last

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season was the catalyst for di Canio's success in keeping them up.

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That is what they are banking on today. Gus Poyet will have learned

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more about the second half at Swansea, about those players. Talk

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about a quick learning curve. That was unbelievable. The first game he

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came in, parity, and then they crashed. He will know about the

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weaknesses. You learn about football and characters more when you get

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beat. You see how they react. Very important giving -- given the new

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manager coming in, players being gutless etc. They raise a danger

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that Sunderland go at this hammer and tongs, get summary sent off

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early. In the old days, it was all about taking the legs of someone in

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a derby. Now you have got to press and deny the opposition pace. If

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Sunderland get too pumped up, they are in massive trouble. Would that

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be a concern for you, Kevin? Yes. I think they will probably be looking

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for somebody like Lee Carter mould to stamp his authority on midfield.

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He has a tendency to overstep the mark. I'm sure that Gus Poyet will

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not want that to happen. There is a history of red cards in this

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fixture. Somebody needs to be careful they do not get a man sent

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off quickly. Newcastle had a player sent off last season but they

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outplayed Sunderland for a long periods after that. What have you

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made of Sunderland -- Newcastle this season? They are mid-table. Some

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games they play very well, some games they are all full. We were at

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the game at Goodison Park a few weeks ago. They were totally

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dominated in the first half. They were fortunate. I think in the

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second half they played really well. They didn't really test Everton as

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much as they would like. They have got a lot of quality. That game, the

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goals they scored in the second half against Everton, give them a sense

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of belief. They had a good win at Cardiff and last week at home to

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Liverpool they played really well. I think they are in a position where

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they need to start getting results. Kevin, we will let you go, so you

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don't have to keep battling whatever is flying overhead at the moment. Do

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you think there are plenty of positives for Newcastle to take out

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of how they have performed? Absolutely. Given that last week

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they played a team of Liverpool's quality, yes. You're talking about

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two teams in a very different state of mind at the moment, meeting

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today. You always say you play with your heart. Most important today,

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you play with your head. It is so easy to get sent off nowadays. It is

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a big thing for Sunderland. They should not get carried away.

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Newcastle will just sit and say, come on, try to beat us. You could

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argue on the disciplinary front, it is the same for Newcastle as well,

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they have had a couple of red cards this season. Stephen Taylor on the

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opening weekend. Last week's was denying a goal-scoring opportunity.

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They haven't. Steven Taylor has missed a lot of football. I wonder

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how threatened the Newcastle defence will be. I don't know where the pace

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is upfront. The mass of thing in Newcastle's favours Loic Remy. He

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has that little bit of impact that Sunderland have been missing. On the

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confidence thing, Fletcher told the Observer today di Canio didn't want

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us to smile, it was too much. What does he mean it was too much, as in

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laughing or enjoying yourself? Obviously they weren't, he is a

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raving nutcase, what do you expect? What comes through from that article

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is it is going to take Gus Poyet more than the two weeks he's had to

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get the morale back, to get them enjoying themselves again. You could

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think, as I say, talking to people that work there just a couple of

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weeks ago, there was a huge sense of relief that sanity has been

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restored, that they weren't allowed to speak to the tea lady or the guy

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that's worked for 50 years in the tunnel. Complete madness. Bonkers

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stuff. The thing with football generally is if you are in the team

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you like the manager. Under Paolo Di Canio, even the ones in the team

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didn't like the manager. We've had heard so much this week about Sir

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Alex Ferguson, the one thing that's come out of his book is he wanted to

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be in control. Di Canio has taken that too far. If you are taking

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saying that you can't speak to the tea lady, that's too far. And the

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bunk beds. Who would share a bunk bed with Lawro? That's a brilliant

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question. I used to share a room. But occasionally at Anfield Ronnie

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Moran would come in and say, who wants a divorced in if you weren't

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happy with your roommate, but those days are gone now. Relief around the

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Stadium of Light. There was plenty of relief yesterday at Old Trafford.

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David, a fantastic comeback in the final quarter hour of that game.

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Yes, and it was a really good victory. Players kept working right

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to the end. After the game in midweek it was great she showed the

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energy in the final 15 or 20 minutes. Were you worried it wasn't

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going to come? Yes, when we were 2-1 down, we had a few opportunities, we

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had goalkeepers who Ed needed to make a few good saves, but we end

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it, the way we kept pressing to try and score. I've been here three

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years in this club, and the spirit, the first moment I came here, the

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games are difficult and we find until the 90 minutes. We scored our

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third one. We won three points. The most important thing that we are

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trying to win the home games, not because in the last result they were

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very bad and thankfully we had six points, three in the Champions

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League and three in the Premier League. Do you think this might be

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the launch pad for more comfortable victories? I really hope, so but you

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never know. And your relationship with the manager, is that fine

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despite what one or two people have been writing? Don't understand that.

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It is more than fine. I'm really happy with the manager and stuff.

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Steve has got in touch with us and section how much work needs doing at

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Manchester United? Sit about improving the player there is or

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buying in? When you win the Premiership you have to seriously

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improve and strengthen your team, something that moich City --

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Manchester City failed to do. Manchester United strengthened with

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Robin van Persie. It is all about the players. Have Manchester United

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been stronger because Marouane Fellaini has been signed? No, they

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should have signed three or four outstanding players. If you walk

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into the dressing room and no-one's coming in to replace you, it is

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great. You have to be under pressure for your place. I think what we are

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seeing was inevitable. We only now really appreciate, I think we always

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did appreciate, but we can see the value of Alex Ferguson now. It was

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always going to be a struggle. A new chief executive, a new manager. The

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one for more, it was an interesting interview that van Persie gave,

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there he still doesn't look happy, despite what he's saying. There was

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an interesting line in Fergie's book, that Fergie had to apologise

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personally to van Persie, because when van Persie signed a year ago I

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think Fergie said he was going to be there for a few years. I just hope

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for Moyes's sake that van Persie isn't annoyed, sulking in anyway,

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because the manager's changed. Did operations shut down a little bit at

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Manchester United last May? There was all these tributes to Sir Alex

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Ferguson, the feeling of the end of an era. Normally Manchester United,

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so effective at getting early signings in the summer, in June,

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none of this last gasp week of the transfer window stuff. With Sir Alex

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Ferguson not plan ing ahead were Mr People in the background making

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these decisions? As soon as Moyes came in we thought Leighton Banes

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and Marouane Fellaini would go. Did they take their eye off the ball? I

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think losing David Gill was a big thing. If they could have kept him

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another year... Sir Alex Ferguson said that was his worry when him and

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David Gill met. He said he was going and David Gill said he was going to

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go. That was a concern. If you look at the Sunday times this morning,

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they've run a story saying that Manchester United are keeping tabs

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on ?85 million Gareth Bale. He didn't have the best of games

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yesterday. Within that article, the new chief executive at Manchester

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United has defend Manchester United's transfer policy and says it

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would have been a mistake to foist signings from anyone else on an

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incoming manager. I have got a lot of sympathy for Ed Woodward here.

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He's come in, Alex Ferguson might have had an idea were he to continue

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as to which players they were going to go for. They have had to wait for

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Moyes to come in. He started on July 1st. He's obviously been busy while

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not officially starting. But you've got to give him a chance to look at

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the squad and decide. I think it meant they came late to their

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transfer business. They have to accept that it is going to be a

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difficult first season. You couldn't say that Gareth bail would be forced

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on them. Which team in the world would not take Gareth Bale? I think

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he's coming back. Do you? I do. I think it is going to be really

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difficult for him in Madrid, in the same team as Ronaldo. Keep your

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texts and tweets coming in: in one of the other games yesterday,

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Norwich against Cardiff, the controversial moment came from le ro

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fer, who rather than -- Leroy fer, who rather than passing the ball he

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put into it the bottom corner of the Cardiff net. This is what he said

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after the game. Tell news your own words what was happening at the end?

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Ricky, he threw the ball to me and I hit it back into the net. But mean

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to pass it to the goalkeeper or were you heading for goal? I wanted a

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goal. The referee didn't below his whistle, so it didn't count. So but

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think you had scored the winning goal? I thought so, yes. What do you

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make of Cardiff's reaction and that the goal wasn't allowed to stand?

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They were mad, because the goalkeeper threw the ball out.

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That's the part of the game. In Holland if you do, that you can play

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on. I wanted to win the game but we didn't. But you understood the

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reaction of the Cardiff players? Yeah, I understood, so, yeah. It is

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their opinion of the game, and they know that we want to win the game,

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but yeah, it didn't come. Now you've been educated in the English way of

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doing things, next time it happens will you pass it back to the

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goalkeeper or go for goal again? I don't know. 1-0 up, I will give it

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back to the gel keeper, but 0-0 I will try to score again. An honest

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interview. I can appreciate, I know nothing about cricket but that big

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incident the summer whether the guy should have walked, it reminds me of

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that. All the pressure on the players, the team talks, the 100%

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all the time. Your instinct is to try to bend every law to the point

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of breaking. He will have seen this as not doing any harm, he plays on.

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He isn't making it up. On the Continent they have a different

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attitude to us on that. You admire his honesty and sportsmanship. But

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he didn't hit the ball with any great van om. It almost looked like

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a back pass. A very accurate pass into the bottom of the court. But

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the age old argument, it comes down to confusion about putting the ball

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out depending on whether someone is injured. What's the rule nowadays?

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What is the rule nowadays? I think it is generally accepted is you give

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the ball back to the opposition. If we are going to go down that road,

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good luck. Let's talk about where you were in more detail yesterday,

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and Southampton. Everybody is praising hem to the hilt, not just

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for the way they are playing but their work rate. Martin Jol said

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yesterday how aggressive they were, as a compliment. The amount of times

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Fulham had to struggle just to get the ball to the halfway line. Adam

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Lallana whipped the ball off their toes. Fulham have Sidwell and

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Parkary. They are seasoned is Premier League players, they are no

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mugs, and yet they had difficulty passing it down the field. If

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someone likes Adam Lallana has injury that's where their

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limitations will be exposed. If they can play like they did yesterday

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there is no reason they won't stay up there. They have got attacking

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players and they've started to build from the back with the players

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they've signed. Southampton a handful. Borough is in gold. They've

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got Wanyana midfield and Lallana... That's the spine. For all of the

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praise we are giving them and the kids they've brought through, as

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former striker Steve Claridge reminds me, they've spent over ?60

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million on this squad. They have but if they've spent it well, they

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deserve praise. This is the modern Premier League. It is part of what

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makes this season so fascinating, that it is so unpredictable and a

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club like Southampton is rising. Core taizy. There is real ambition

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there buts being done in a very astute way. It's not all about the

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money. Look at how much Sunderland have spend in the last few season.

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The academy, the left-back Luke Shaw is a player very much of the Gareth

:27:25.:27:31.

Bale mode. He is a left-back who plays like a left wink and he is

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still a kid, only a teenageary. The academy has been producing players

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for a while and you would hope for Southampton that think won't keep

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getting poached away. If we are looking at Southampton as a model of

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a club going into the Premier League and building it does bring us to

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Crystal Palace. All sorts of stuff in the Sunday Mirror. The headline

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is I'm hurting and my pride has been battered but I'll be back better and

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stronger. He talks as well about over the last four years hardly

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having a break from the game. She particularly critical about their

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policy in the summer, and that it was chaotic how they brought players

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in. It's a really interesting column. He uses the word, "Sacked".

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He said he offered his resignation after the Fulham game but it seems

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like he changed his mind overnight but was met by the desire from his

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boss to go anyway. He talks about the fact that the owners were just

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wanting to, I think he says anyone and everyone. They came up via the

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play-offs, so there is no pre-planning. It has to be a scatter

:28:51.:28:55.

gun approach. The two promoted teams are out buying players for the

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Premier League. They didn't know Crystal Palace until the day that

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they actually qualified to get into the Premier League. All of a sudden

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you are thinking, you missed the boat by a million miles. You are

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damned if you do and damned if you don't. We are saying Crystal Palace

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bought too many players and Manchester United haven't but the

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enough. I would argue against that. I think with Crystal Palace, it is

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like history written by the winners. They've gone out, we'll buy ten

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players, if six of them are good, it will be a success. He section

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looking back, because Steve Parish, his phone is going to voicemail. He

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became so obsessed with bringing in players that would help us cope with

:29:41.:29:43.

life in the top flight that he wanted to buy anyone and everyone.

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Because wen't didn't have time to put a proper plan of action in

:29:48.:29:53.

place, we became des programme. They were struggling towards the end of

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the season, so it wasn't a case of they were always going to be in the

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play-offs. It may have been, you know worckts we need one eye in case

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we get into the praoephrmingts and they start without three of the best

:30:07.:30:13.

players last season. Zaha, he goes to Manchester United, and another's

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been injured. It is difficult enough, like Cardiff, you can plan

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and you know you are coming one the Premiership, but that's hard. To do

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it like Crystal Palace is impossible. Who and their agent is

:30:27.:30:37.

going to sign for Crystal Palace if they can go to any team in the

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middle of the table? Steve Parrish has talked about maybe the potential

:30:46.:30:50.

of teaming up a young manager, a young coach, with an experienced

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want to have that director of football. If you read between the

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lines, and this is a complete guess, is that in some way insinuating that

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Neil Warnock may return to the club in an experienced role with a

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younger coach? It is possible. I think what Palace need now is Neil

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Warnock autonomy clueless as their manager. -- Tony Pulis.

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Warnock autonomy clueless as their much as he wanted to leave.

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Warnock autonomy clueless as their club staying there, get a top

:31:38.:31:37.

manager in. I think club staying there, get a top

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no-brainer. Just go and get him. We all love talking to Ian Holloway.

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no-brainer. Just go and get him. We Can Ian Holloway sometimes be too

:31:52.:31:51.

honest for his own good? Can Ian Holloway sometimes be too

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people say so. You are what you are. Just be normal. We

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people say so. You are what you are. Well, when I say normal! We like him

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because he is what he Well, when I say normal! We like him

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know if something else has happened. I find it

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know if something else has happened. just want to walk out as easy as

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that. Steve Parrish's phone is still going to voice mail. Maybe he is

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appointing the new Crystal Palace manager as we speak. Let's return to

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the big derby in the north-east. Sunderland make four changes from

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that defeat at Swansea. Josey Alta Doerr is among those who comes in.

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-- Josey Altidore. It looks as though Sunderland have

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looked at what Newcastle have at the back and thought they have a real

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chance of beating them. They are playing to upfront. You got the

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impression from Gus Poyet during the week that they will go for it this

:33:05.:33:09.

afternoon. Even what a passionate guy and a passionate manager years,

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you would expect him to be like that? Gus Poyet definitely smiled at

:33:13.:33:20.

the guy on the door on his way into the ground. Di Canio would not have

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done that. One of the other games today is Spurs against Hull. Spurs

:33:29.:33:34.

have a director of football. They brought in several players during

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the summer. One of the most Christian Eriksson.

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Everybody is fit. We have a really strong team. He has to make a

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decision about who is going to play and who is not. How realistic is it

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that is Spurs team can challenge for the Premier League title? Yet, I

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think it is realistic. We are fifth. We want to go into the top four. We

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have the team to try to become number one. Everybody would be

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settled -- satisfied with Champions League for next season. Is top four

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all they should aim for? No, I think they should aim for the top. If they

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fall a little bit short, it is not a problem. I don't think they can win

:34:27.:34:33.

it. One viewer asks why they are not realistic title contenders? The

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reason is I don't think Andre Villas-Boas knows his best team yet.

:34:40.:34:43.

There is still an Achilles heel with Tottenham. I also think Manchester

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City and Chelsea are better. I feel with Tottenham, how can you possibly

:34:49.:34:54.

lose at home to West Ham by 3-0? That would seriously worry me. They

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have two players in every single position. It is a mentality thing

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with Tottenham. I think Christian Eriksson is the guy that Manchester

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United could have signed -- should have signed. They will aspire to the

:35:09.:35:14.

league title but it is too much, too soon for a squad recently assembled.

:35:15.:35:20.

Give them 12 months, then you will have a title contender. I think they

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have got a chance. I think AVB is the real deal. For all his problems

:35:28.:35:31.

at Chelsea. I don't think that was his fault. I think that was just a

:35:32.:35:35.

dressing and that could not get their heads around one of

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Mourinho's the tenants suddenly being their manager. I think he has

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been very astute. He has bought well. He was seriously let down at

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Chelsea. It was a project. We used to laugh at him. But all of a sudden

:35:54.:35:57.

the project was taken away from him. He is a good template for the likes

:35:58.:36:05.

of Tony Pulis. He can bounce back. That is the measure of the man, the

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way he has bounced back. That tells me he is top class. He has also been

:36:10.:36:17.

given the support to bounce back. I mentioned director of football. All

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the tools out there for him to get it right. Yes. One of his biggest

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problems now is going to be players knocking on his door wondering why

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they are not on the team. That is something else he has got to deal

:36:36.:36:41.

with. That is the best problem a football manager can never have.

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What was the difference between Hull in preseason and Crystal Palace as

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regards transfers? Steve Bruce brought in a few players in as well,

:36:51.:36:57.

some very late. I have seen quite a bit of Hull this season. Interesting

:36:58.:37:02.

today, playing against Tottenham, Tom Huddleston will be fired up.

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Jake Livermore cannot play. For a 36 games in the season, the likes of

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Lukaku is going to be banging goals against Chelsea's ponds. When I have

:37:19.:37:25.

seen Hull, Huddleston has been regenerated. It was the right time

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to leave Spurs. He needed a break. Playing alongside Jake Livermore has

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made him better. Steve Bruce has been in this position before. Wigan,

:37:38.:37:42.

Birmingham. He knows. He has used the system extremely well. Andy

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strikes me as a really good man manager. The vote has closed. Who

:37:47.:37:52.

has the best strike partnership? Liverpool or Manchester United? Do

:37:53.:37:58.

you worry about West Ham this season from what you have seen so far? I

:37:59.:38:04.

think, we're talking managers, Sam Allardyce will keep them out of

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trouble. Certainly by the end of the season. They need Andy Carroll back.

:38:11.:38:14.

I went over to Antwerp last week to see him. He is on the mend. He will

:38:15.:38:20.

be back by the start of December. It is an unusual injury. It is an

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injury that is quite common in ballet. The tenants that connect his

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heels... It is a really nasty injury, which is why he is seeing a

:38:33.:38:36.

specialist over there. He will be back and that will give them a lift.

:38:37.:38:42.

When he is in Antwerp, easy out there on his own, at the club

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supporting him? They sent the medical staff out there. The West

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Ham physio was there. He is literally in a hotel. Would you send

:38:54.:38:59.

Andy Carroll out there on his own? ! Isn't that what you mean? I was

:39:00.:39:05.

meaning it from a sympathetic viewpoint. You have got a serious

:39:06.:39:09.

injury, you are getting treatment abroad. I would imagine it is not

:39:10.:39:15.

particularly nice. He's in there all day long. It is an amazing place.

:39:16.:39:20.

There is a guy who is a Tour de France rider. There is a

:39:21.:39:24.

professional basketball player. Vincent Kompany's brother was in

:39:25.:39:30.

there that day. There is a family injury issue, obviously! He is in a

:39:31.:39:36.

good place. Interesting he has gone to Belgium. Is there anything they

:39:37.:39:43.

cannot do? Let's go back to Stamford Bridge. Chelsea against Manchester

:39:44.:39:51.

City. Pat Nevin is there. Where is this going to be won and lost? There

:39:52.:39:58.

could be a number of players. I should apologise now for my sore

:39:59.:40:02.

throat. I have been given a little bit of a drink by Chelsea to keep me

:40:03.:40:08.

going. Looking at both teams during the week, particularly Manchester

:40:09.:40:11.

City, the centre back partnership is important. For me, it didn't work in

:40:12.:40:20.

midweek. I don't know what he is going to go for. Vincent Kompany is

:40:21.:40:26.

not available. I think Jose Mourinho will see that as a definite

:40:27.:40:31.

weakness. Chelsea want to play as a break inside. They have got players

:40:32.:40:41.

who can break from midfield. I suspect Manchester may sit back and

:40:42.:40:44.

little bit, and that will not suit Chelsea. As far as Chelsea are

:40:45.:40:46.

concerned, the front four, how would you set that up this afternoon? I

:40:47.:40:53.

think the manager loves the fact he gets a lot of movement and energy

:40:54.:41:02.

out of Sherlock. He is the first one out there. They have got an amazing

:41:03.:41:09.

amount of legs in that area. I say this advisedly, the sitting

:41:10.:41:13.

midfielders are not sitting midfielders. What they are is deep

:41:14.:41:18.

lying midfielders. If it is Ramires and Lampard, everybody knows they

:41:19.:41:20.

are not holding players. They will break with amazing pace. It has

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worked very well since maybe after the first couple of the games of the

:41:26.:41:29.

season. That is something that Manchester City will be concerned

:41:30.:41:33.

about. Because they are concerned about that, I don't think they will

:41:34.:41:38.

be quite as open as they have been. Does he go with more power in there

:41:39.:41:41.

with Milner instead of going with Jesus Navas? I hope David Silva

:41:42.:41:50.

plays. He is one of my favourite players. I think Milner will maybe

:41:51.:41:59.

get the shirt though. It may be a slow game at the start. If somebody

:42:00.:42:03.

scores early, it opens up. You're basically saying that Mourinho will

:42:04.:42:13.

take legs over trickery? Yes, he will, unless he has got a team that

:42:14.:42:17.

he knows he has to break down. Then you might get the likes of other

:42:18.:42:27.

players in the game. Certainly those lakes and the pace of breaking is

:42:28.:42:32.

the one he goes to. Trying to second-guess Jose Mourinho... Last

:42:33.:42:37.

week against Cardiff there was a four-minute period which was the

:42:38.:42:42.

best four minutes of tactics I have seen in about a decade. He went to a

:42:43.:42:51.

three, two. -- three, two, three, two. Game won. Well done. Fantastic

:42:52.:42:58.

tactics. We will let you go off and do that

:42:59.:43:05.

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your best strike partnership. Over 70%, 72%, went for the Liverpool

:43:11.:43:18.

strike partnership. It is not often that Suarez is positive on social

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media. Does that surprise you? In current form, absolutely not. During

:43:24.:43:27.

the season, I suspect it will go the other way. If you take the last two

:43:28.:43:33.

years and expect to see over the next two years, you may go for

:43:34.:43:37.

Rooney and van Persie. But right here, right now, I would go for the

:43:38.:43:41.

Liverpool player. We are out of time. Mark will be with me for Match

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