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Stuart Hogg, it is two! Can Wales turn pressure into points? Jonathan

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Davies! Straight down the field. The first two weekends of the six

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Nations this year were absolutely enthralling. The third weekend was

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as well but it was also extraordinary.

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How good are England? How resolute are Italy? Just how proud and

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ruthless? Ireland and France. Just how physical do you want a rugby

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international to be? Scotland and Wales. Just how long can one team

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keep beating the other? So much to talk about. Jeremy Guscott, Jonathan

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Davies and Paul O'Connell. Straight to Twickenham. If you don't know

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what happened in this match, you've never seen an international rugby

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fixture like this. Danny Care thinks he might have

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phoned the way through. Though he did not get through, that

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is the area to keep testing. Owen Farrell.

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It has gone forward. The pass just evading Jonny May. The problem was

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he was trying to keep a line but he was going towards him and in the end

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there was a collision. He is tackled by Ben

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I'm saying when there is no ruck, just play on.

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The referee has been quite clear. The fact that England cannot

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understand it is their fault. They should know the law. Professional

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players. Though it is unusual it is for nursing them at the moment. --

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confusing them. Very clever by Italy. Italy have to be careful

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inside the 22. They set up a slow charge and at

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some stage they have to get this ball into touch.

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Penalty against Italy. It didn't work. But all of the problem for

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defending team. How many times do you try and make the exit by driving

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the ball forward? At what point do you take it too many? England going

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for the drive. This will go very far.

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Owen Farrell joins in and tries to clear him out of the way. Try

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awarded! Italy not getting enough men in

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quickly but England seeing the ball off. Cannot see the grounding but

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that was a good position. He obviously could. Good work by the

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England forwards. Eddie Jones will be hoping that will settling down

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that they can play with fluency because they've managed to do

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nothing like that so far. It seems to be opening up, make Brown.

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Important tackle. Into the England half. It has more

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than opened up for them. Italy play on. It has gone loose. It

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is still loose. Back to the 22. Penalty advantage to

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Italy. The break-out by Italy. A return to the form of the

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first-quarter returns a penalty. The ball comes slightly quicker

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fertility. Just that Delay. Allen, to put Italy in the lead on

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the stroke of half-time. Something good could come of it and it has!

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Italy take the lead. An extraordinary first half and Italian

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performance. Clueless, inappropriate, unorganised, whatever

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you want to say. Nobody there for England. One Italian chaser. Conor

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O'Shea is delighted because Italy are well worth this lead and I'm not

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here to be a cheerleader for England. This half has been

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execrable, absolutely awful. It is brave work by the Italian

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forwards. It hasn't worked. It was always a risk. This is a prime

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opportunity for England to assert some control over the game.

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Solid platform to begin with. Penalty to England.

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Danny Care! Quick-witted from the England scrum-half. He was always

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alive to Italy, who were the most switched onside in the first half.

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Good work by Danny Care but not by the defence. Joe Launchbury. Quickly

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over the top. Italy play the game but they are not going in. England

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hesitated and they are on the move now.

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Scores again. He's had some impact on left-wing. That is the correct

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way to deal with the Italian tactic. There are spaces behind the tackle

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area. Tackle only. That is the phrase of

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the day. Italy are looking for a way through as England stay out of the

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contact area. It is a great individual effort, irrespective of

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the fact that there were not enough tacklers to bring him down.

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He has the presence of mind to know that his momentum will take him over

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the line. That's a great run. It's a fantastic solo effort. He could not

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get hang on the forwards. Courtney Lawes is in front of him. The ball

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needs to go back one. Nathan Hughes has it. Ben Youngs on

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his shoulder. There is about four men to none.

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England have such an overlap. They are still short. Penalty advantage.

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Ben Youngs has spotted it. Must be. It was not the best but he has the

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speed. That is a bonus point try England will probably win with. They

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tried very hard not to score that but in the end the communication was

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made and whatever you make of this performance. The fact is that

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they've got the bonus point and will probably go on to win. The passing

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was not the best. It was such an overlap.

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Groups, long clearance. The replacement prop.

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England are going to finish in style. Not many people would have

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spotted this but the fact that Mike Brown laid the ball early at length

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stopped the Italians from coming round the wrong side. It was too

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quick to use it. It created the defence of space which was exploited

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by England. Henry Slade is on. Back in the

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England setup. Six tries for England. Good work and

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Jack Mills looked lively since he's come on. Final score here, England

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36, Italy 15. A few fans scratching their heads in

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that first half and some pundits on the game, as well. What was your

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take? Let's face the facts. You've got to have an offside line to play

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the game. Italy was smart and congratulations to their coaching

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staff and the players. They executed that playing brilliantly, but it

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wasn't a Webb rugby. If I was the BBC, I'd be asking the RFU for their

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money back, because we haven't had a rugby game. Do you think your

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players were slow to adapt? I think they reacted well. It's difficult.

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You are taught from the age of three that you pick up the ball and pass

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it half-backs and when you can't do that, then it puts you win another

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sphere. Did you have a wry smile on your face in the first half, when

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you sort England struggle with your no ruck-macro no struggle tactic? It

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was fun. We talked about it yesterday, when we met Romain. In

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the November internationals, they intercepted the ball against

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Toulouse to win Wasps the game in a Heineken Cup and everyone says how

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brilliant it is. When we do it, everyone says, you shouldn't have

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done it and it's hypocritical. But that's life. It's we beat South

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Africa and is a terrible South African side, we came here and did

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things and had a crack and we didn't come here to spoil the game, we

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played within the rules and I'd like people to look at the first game of

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the championship again and see how hard done by we were actually by the

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rules not being looked at properly. A penny for your thoughts on the

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final whistle. What were you thinking? The game could go on for

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another 40 minutes, because we haven't played any rugby. Because

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you look at the GPS starts. I is saying your players will go on

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trainer Gay now? We practice to have contact because contact is a contact

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game. -- rugby is a contact game. Even their rock was offside. It's a

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difficult game for the referee, I'm not critical of him. It was hard to

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play positive rugby. You have one team trying to play, one trying to

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stop you from playing, in soccer, park the bus in front of the goal, I

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don't know what they had in front of the goal but it was bigger than a

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bus. You want to does a Ben Te'o at 13, what's your verdict? He never

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got the ball. All we were hoping for was little guy Edoardo Gori would

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forget he was on the Italian side and maybe our backs could have got

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it. Where to start. So many talking points. By the very nature of the

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length of this programme we couldn't show you in the necessary detail all

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the incidents in the first half-hour, where the Italians stood

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off, didn't engage in contact, and flummoxed England completely.

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England fought the law, but the law one. This is the law. If you look at

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what is a ruck and what isn't a ruck and weight you

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what is a ruck and what isn't a ruck and weight you should go and where

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you shouldn't, as you can see, a ruck is a phase of play where

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players close around the ball on the ground. We've put that there because

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quite clearly a lot of England players were completely bemused by

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that. Where do we start? Well done to Conor and his coaching team and

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his coaching team for the tactic of how to confuse and get in the

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English heads. They executed it brilliantly in the first half. I was

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surprised, because these are professional guys that train. They

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haven't got ready for this. They weren't expecting it. It was

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brilliant. But in my eyes, you think on your feet and react to what you

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see and what's around you and for me, immediately, it should have been

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a pick and drive, pick and go. It took 33 minutes for the first

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English player to work it out. You can understand the frustration

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because they couldn't work it out. Everyone thought they would put 60,

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70, 80 points on it, it was great coaching right Conor and his team

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but England have to come to that and it's the pick and drive, or someone

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gets there and gets the ball away before they come round. I was amazed

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they said they hadn't seen before. It's simple rugby, they've been

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doing it all season. The Chiefs, two seasons ago, did it a lot. It was

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the talk of Super Rugby. There's no one in ruck. Dylan Hartley had a

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chance to put in Gori, so Gori can't go into that circle. There's an

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opportunity to and go. That's one of the only options you have.

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Launchbury, if he'd pulled Tommaso Allan into the ruck, he could have

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made a ruck out of it but he's not aware of the rule, he lets him go

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and we are back into the same situation again now. It's worth

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saying that social media polarises opinion, in the way it does, but

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generally, we here are saying a round of applause to Conor O'Shea

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for coming up with the tactic, given the fact they conceded nearly 100

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points in the last two games and going into the match they had to

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come up with something, and boy, did he come up with something.

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Absolutely, all the talk has been about relegation and Georgia and the

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Six Nations, so the element of surprise with this tactic, I was

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surprised that England were so baffled because it was done so well

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by the Chiefs in the Super 15 and teams figured it out in the

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superstate -- in the Super 15s. The Chiefs had to get rid of it as a

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tactic. I'm surprised how much they struggled. Here's the quote from

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Romain Poite, in response to a question from James Haskell. Lets

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get some clarity, on the ruck, what we need to do? I can't say, I'm the

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referee, not the judge. I want to know what the exact rulers. If there

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is no ruck, an area the tackle on the ground, making an offside line

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and it's sad. One metre. If someone gets in, it's a ruck? During a

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tackle, it's a tackler. After. He said thank you and he didn't know

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any better. It's around on eggheads tomorrow night, it will be

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interesting. The complex that is of the game are one of its great joys,

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but also one of its great weaknesses, but today was

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fascinating. When you go into a game, you have tactics, you go

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together, whatever one does, the other one has to counter it. That's

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what sport is all about. England were angry today, they were

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frustrated, they didn't react to it quickly enough. Pick and drive, or

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get the first man there and get the ball away. Well done to Italy. It's

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slightly disrespectful for them to say it's against a -- to say up

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against the ethics of the game. They came there, everyone was on top of

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them, everyone was on their case and you have to say, well done, Italy.

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Well done for scoring two good tries, one outstanding score and

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they came looking for pride and they restored that to measure. But how

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much of this, for example, was an example of complacency, of England

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not being quite on it today? I don't think they were not on it, they were

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stunned by the tactics. Mentally, they couldn't gather themselves.

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This was another slow reaction. Italy have chased well, got there,

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England are waiting for somebody to produce something. This tries

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beautifully worked. We've highlighted Ford before in this

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championship, how he's been targeted, and that's a tackle you

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have to make. He's got two but is alongside him but company Ore walks

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straight through him and over him and scores a wonderful try --

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Campagnaro. Eddie Jones was mentoring on Italy's tactics, they

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still scored two brilliant tries. Let's move on, England, we'll see

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Elliot Daly's try here, but in the broader context, what positive do

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England take on this? They've got the bonus point, which they

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desperately wanted, in case it comes down to the bonus points at the end

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of the game. I guess the reality years and Brian Moore touched on it

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in commentary that England did work it out eventually, they did score

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six tries and when you say play like this, when they've worked out how to

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get round this no gain line, that they can get quick ball, the hands

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here off-load, slipped past in from behind from Ford and Care linking

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and its beautiful Handscomb a great opportunity and score. It's a

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wonderful take, a wonderfully taken try. It's a great try, England were

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going to win comfortably once they worked it out. I don't think it was

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in doubt. They are second-best team in the world and once they'd had

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their frustrations worked out, Law-macro had a big game, Elliot

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Daly played well, but it was a stop and start game -- Lawes and big

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game. They looks very good again. You operate in exalted areas of the

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game these days. Do you think the world rugby laws committee are going

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to look at what happened today, either in the short-term or

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long-term, and they that's not in Eddie Jones' language, rugby, and we

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are going to have to change the laws as a consequence. We played South

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Africa two years ago and we beat them, they are big mauling side but

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we stood off their maul and South Africa had no solution and led to as

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beating them quite comfortably. They couldn't go to the really strong

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part of a game. I think Italy have tried something similar. They've

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used the laws to their advantage. I wouldn't agree with it. There needs

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to be an offside line. When guys are waving their hands in the middle of

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the park. It's silly but you have to congratulate Italy. I know you

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disagree. I'm challenging, insomuch as South Africa are slow, cumbersome

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pack and England are traditionally a slow, cumbersome pack. New Zealand

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would stuff Italy out of sight if they played those tactics and Italy

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wouldn't do it against New Zealand, because they are too smart. They

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might change it because it wasn't a great spectacle, but... England

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didn't make it a great practical, they didn't react. When we played

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sevens, everyone kept the ball alive and the defence rushed up and you

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have people everywhere. What New Zealand do, they pick players, take

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it into contact and create an offside line, so they adapted to the

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seventh game because they are clever and maybe that what is has to happen

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if it happens again. We will bring all these tactics, if you adapt

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straightaway, if they'd had a solution, Italy would had to have

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abandoned it but the fact it worked so well, it gave Italy massive

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belief in what they were doing and it dragged on. But those teams, when

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teams throw something like that at you early in the game if you deal

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with competently early on, they have to abandon that tactic. England

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didn't do that. It was infectious, England did it. It was intriguing.

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Entertainment in a different way, not what we were expecting. Two

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yesterday and Dublin, a game not for the faint-hearted.

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COMMENTATOR: Sent back by Yoann Maestri and Lopez

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to Lamerat. Baptiste Serin again. On it goes to

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Nakaitaci. Pressure on the man of the match against Scotland a couple

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of weeks ago, socks around his ankles. Back to Baptiste Serin.

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That's claimed by Heaslip, deep into the 22. Advantage to France, penalty

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coming, Nakaitaci. France then with a free attack, if they can get this

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ball. There's Yoann Maestri, a little chip from spreading. Back for

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the penalty. -- back from Scott Spedding. It's a stepped from

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Baptiste Serin brought him to a standstill, didn't have the

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acceleration to get away, but danger signs for Ireland. Unlucky, missing

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the tackle. They took full advantage after that. A chance for fans to

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take the first points of the day. The French captain, Camille Lopez,

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he's never scored a try for France but 100 points in the blue jersey

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and this time, three more. France take the early lead. Almost 12

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minutes gone here in Dublin. It's a sort of greasy surface for players

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to keep a grip with their studs. Rock-solid from both sides. Ireland

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try to put a squeeze on and it goes down. France will have to use it.

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The forwards carrying on for France now. Taken on by become all. Ireland

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try to hold them up. -- taken by become old. Ireland offside, penalty

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coming to France. Baptiste Serin points the way. The openside flanker

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is waiting, he carries it in. The Irish defence firing up. Still

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advantage to France. Back to Lopez for the crossfield kick. Taken by

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Yoann Huget. Back it goes to Lamerat. Lamerat is in for the try

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for France. They had the penalty coming, but they have the try. Are

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they going to look at something? REFEREE: Have a look. Yes or no, for

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the TMO. The Australian TMO, Nigel is going to have a look on the big

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screen as well. A little touch. A little touch, might deny France,

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might deny Lamerat. TMO:

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If you'd like to have a chat. It looks like he's nudged forward. It

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was the second movement. No try. Back for the penalty. Remi Lamerat

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does not like TMO As. He denied putting a fingertip on the ball a

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couple of weeks ago, that was fractionally more clear, a clear

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knock-on from Gael Fickou. Camille Lopez to add another three points.

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Ireland's try to get this going again. This is effective by Ireland.

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Driven on by the crowed. They are making ground.

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Into the space and a little chip to chase. Got there just in head --

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ahead of Keith Earls. We've seen that moves are many claims from

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Ireland. So nearly worked. Hopefully Ireland can build something from

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this. Still waiting for some magic from him in this Six Nations.

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Penalty to Ireland. Another scrum called by Ireland. Too many

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penalties. It needs to stop now. Nigel Owens looking for a solid

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scrum. The Irish fans looking for something towards the line.

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Conor Murray goes for it himself, try given. Conor Murray. Nigel Owens

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had a look at it and immediately gave the drive.

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That the speciality. He's scored so many of them over the years. So, a

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chance for Johnny Sexton to put Ireland in front. Through it goes

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from Johnny Sexton. Ireland in front and their pressure converting.

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Just a fraction too long. Good strength and spinning away. Ireland

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are on the front foot. Johnny Sexton spinning away.

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The ball turned over. A free attack and a chance for a drop goal.

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Ireland have the three points. Ireland move further clear. He

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doesn't take those and you can see why. Sweet strike from some

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distance. He's happy about that. A penalty to Ireland and another

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free attack. Trying to secure the ball. Good work. The whole thing

:34:30.:34:46.

ended up on the floor. That does not put off Johnny Sexton.

:34:47.:34:59.

They have a ten point lead. Ireland have the penalty and this

:35:00.:35:18.

could be a chance for Paddy Jackson to move beyond.

:35:19.:35:35.

Ireland win that ten point victory. It is a huge win for us. Sometimes

:35:36.:35:51.

it is not pretty. You just got to really toughen up and I thought they

:35:52.:35:58.

did really well. They mixed the game up a little bit. There was a little

:35:59.:36:01.

bit of putting the ball in behind them. At the same time, a lot of

:36:02.:36:05.

rolling your sleeves up and just making sure that you keep the

:36:06.:36:10.

pressure on. Tonight was about rolling up your sleeves and making

:36:11.:36:17.

sure you exert physical pressure. They are a dangerous outfit and a

:36:18.:36:26.

big physical outfit. When you can get that upfront you put yourself in

:36:27.:36:39.

a pretty good place. Jonathan Hunt says he thinks they are going to win

:36:40.:36:46.

the Championship but more on that in a moment. What do you think of this

:36:47.:36:50.

French team? A better than I thought they were going to be. This season

:36:51.:36:55.

they've come out and they have solidity in the set piece. When they

:36:56.:37:00.

get through a few phases they get lost. They are great individual

:37:01.:37:14.

players. Collectively they need to work on it because the discipline,

:37:15.:37:20.

they could do magic things but they are doing stupid things and they are

:37:21.:37:26.

a big strong side. They've been difficult to beat but they come here

:37:27.:37:32.

a lot better. If they focus on what they are doing and worked as a team

:37:33.:37:37.

they could become a very good side. At the moment it is still the old

:37:38.:37:49.

problems. This is unlucky. They've got players who can damage you. They

:37:50.:38:02.

started really well. They cannot maintain concentration and

:38:03.:38:05.

discipline for a full game. They start giving you penalties and

:38:06.:38:12.

forcing off-loads and they give the opportunities to the opposition.

:38:13.:38:17.

Italy had two weeks after the last round of matches to perfect the

:38:18.:38:26.

tactic. Ireland came up with a variation on a theme but they

:38:27.:38:33.

repeated this often. They used their wealth. We saw this loads of times

:38:34.:38:37.

in the game and we saw this tip-off at the back. Here it is. It creates

:38:38.:38:52.

space. Sit down and it gives you an opportunity to go right. This is

:38:53.:38:57.

something that is... This is a Joe Schmidt play. Ireland asked a lot of

:38:58.:39:07.

questions of France which I don't think France answered. Everybody

:39:08.:39:17.

spoke about the French pack. They spread the ball wide with good

:39:18.:39:22.

skills but they moved the French pack around. It was a brave call and

:39:23.:39:31.

very well done. There was a lot of up the jumper, old-fashioned stuff.

:39:32.:39:44.

They were really effective. This is good from Ireland but the kind of

:39:45.:39:48.

thing you still get from France. People say they've changed but I

:39:49.:39:56.

don't know. Lift the leg, makes sure he's caught them, now it's a penalty

:39:57.:40:02.

to Ireland. Conor Murray knows it is an advantage and he can have a

:40:03.:40:08.

crack. It is really clumsy play. Not a particularly good ball. But as you

:40:09.:40:14.

said earlier, Ireland have used their two weeks off really well.

:40:15.:40:16.

They had some really good attacking plays. We see a really good start

:40:17.:40:28.

from Ireland. Eventually they take the ball out. France are going to

:40:29.:40:41.

bring it over scored a very simple try. Really

:40:42.:41:01.

good clean out from Garry Ringrose. Create a tiny bit of space per Conor

:41:02.:41:04.

Murray and he's really good from this range. What France are lacking

:41:05.:41:15.

is a leader in the pack to cut the rubbish out and keep the discipline.

:41:16.:41:18.

They've always had a problem at stand-off. Scrum-half controls

:41:19.:41:25.

everything and he needs composure. Yesterday, every Irish player does

:41:26.:41:33.

his job but Conor Murray and Johnny Sexton leads them round the field.

:41:34.:41:37.

Every match at the moment, everybody is watching and there is a

:41:38.:41:44.

supposition that he will be the half-backs. What do we make of the

:41:45.:41:50.

return? The guy is a machine. I think he understands the way that

:41:51.:41:57.

Ireland play. He gets on with Joe Schmidt extremely well. The

:41:58.:42:04.

execution is nine out of ten at the time and you want consistency. That

:42:05.:42:10.

is why they are the best players. He demands the best from his players

:42:11.:42:16.

around him and that means that he needs to be up there with his

:42:17.:42:18.

performances. He manages that. Instead of putting himself under

:42:19.:42:37.

pressure he comes back. The last couple of seasons he has become

:42:38.:42:47.

world-class. The half-backs, it was lashing rain and really coming down.

:42:48.:42:57.

They were kicking it really well. You see it from here. In the

:42:58.:43:05.

conditions, the Irish try line is an awful long way away. Do Johnny

:43:06.:43:15.

Murray and -- Johnny Sexton and Conor Murray start for you? At the

:43:16.:43:22.

moment they do. I think it's who wins it. The big one is the last

:43:23.:43:26.

match. That will probably decide the half-backs combination. Anything

:43:27.:43:34.

else on this? I think Johnny Sexton is ten. Conor Murray a 12. -- nine.

:43:35.:43:41.

I think Rhys Webb could go in. 20 more sport to show you. Leicester

:43:42.:43:51.

City against Liverpool, what an interesting game tomorrow, that is

:43:52.:44:01.

on radio five live. As far as the Six Nations is concerned you can

:44:02.:44:05.

watch it tomorrow. But from the earnest debate about

:44:06.:44:34.

rugby everything is put into context by the death of Elli Norkett in a

:44:35.:44:39.

car crash yesterday. She was just 20 years old.

:44:40.:44:45.

You from yesterday. It was Scotland against Wales at Murrayfield, runs

:44:46.:44:56.

like ten consecutive wins have to come to an end sometime.

:44:57.:45:08.

COMMENTATOR: Rhys Webb comes into view. Picks his

:45:09.:45:18.

time. A new variation from Wales, to try and push Scotland back a little

:45:19.:45:26.

bit. Webb's kick. Under pressure from George North, who holds him up.

:45:27.:45:34.

Two pretty big wingers against each other, isn't it? I feel safer,

:45:35.:45:41.

sitting here. It's good work by George North, because Wales will

:45:42.:45:45.

have the put-in. It's raw strength from George North. Tim Visser is a

:45:46.:45:51.

big man. The kick was a little bit too long. The initial contact is OK,

:45:52.:45:56.

then George North gets his feet and another and lifts up Tim Visser.

:45:57.:46:01.

Holds up with the help of Biggar. John Hardie on the side of the

:46:02.:46:06.

scrum. A free kick, quickly taken by Rhys Webb. Scott Williams, long to

:46:07.:46:11.

Leigh Halfpenny. A chance for Wales and Lee Williams, the first try of

:46:12.:46:17.

the game. Rhys Webb has already taken a quick tap, this one, the

:46:18.:46:22.

timing and the accuracy from Leigh Halfpenny, perfect for him to score

:46:23.:46:29.

in the left-hand corner. Quick thinking from Rhys Webb, really in

:46:30.:46:33.

-- really narrow in defence, Scotland.

:46:34.:46:48.

The break by Rhys Webb, the pass to Williams, Liam Williams cuts back

:46:49.:46:59.

inside. Rob Evans and support, held off the ball. Will it go to review?

:47:00.:47:05.

I think it will. That man, Rhys Webb, again. I think he's so cute

:47:06.:47:10.

here, I don't think the rest will pick up on it. We'll have a look

:47:11.:47:18.

here. So quick in his run, the pass is good and we're at Rhys Webb.

:47:19.:47:27.

Very, very subtle. The penalty against Rhys Webb is given. The

:47:28.:47:37.

shake of the head, but he knows. Warren Gatland, the Lions coach,

:47:38.:47:38.

watching on. Fraser Brown. With great deliberation, set up the

:47:39.:47:57.

driving maul. Harry Price, that's Rob Evans, scrapping away for the

:47:58.:48:08.

ball. High tackle given. Against Sam Warburton. He wanted to get his arms

:48:09.:48:13.

around the ball carry holding up, that's a good tackle by Dan Biggar

:48:14.:48:19.

but it's still advantage Scotland. That's a good pasta Stuart Hogg.

:48:20.:48:23.

Halfpenny goes back. Hogg in hot pursuit. Coming back with a penalty.

:48:24.:48:33.

Claimed the try. He has a little smile about it all. We go back to

:48:34.:48:39.

the penalty. This is where it ends, on the chip through. He was claiming

:48:40.:48:43.

a try, but how well has Leigh Halfpenny done there, and a huge

:48:44.:48:51.

amounts of pressure? -- under huge amounts of pressure? Hamish Watson

:48:52.:48:54.

played scrum-half. It comes out to John Barclay and again, no way

:48:55.:49:05.

through. Russell, to Hogg. It's going to be Seymour, or is it?

:49:06.:49:15.

Well, Scott Williams has made that tackle, and unbelievable tackle.

:49:16.:49:25.

REFEREE: Try, yes or no, please? Scott Williams comes across. It

:49:26.:49:36.

looks like a try for Tommy Seymour, it looks like Tommy Seymour has

:49:37.:49:44.

landed the ball. Try awarded by Jean Alesi. Tommy Seymour the scorer.

:49:45.:49:52.

Stuart Hogg delays his pass and Tim Visser does really well to draw on

:49:53.:49:56.

Leigh Halfpenny and release Seymour, who just gets the ball down.

:49:57.:50:04.

Ross Moriarty charges into midfield. Wales on the move, for the first

:50:05.:50:11.

time in this second half they have earned themselves a penalty. Rhys

:50:12.:50:16.

Webb looks one way, goes the other. Jonathan Davies, Davies for the

:50:17.:50:20.

line. The pass, can't find a man. Leigh Halfpenny is up there. It's

:50:21.:50:23.

gone forward. Oh! Wales, so close. Harry Price feeds the scrum. It's

:50:24.:50:36.

done well, quick ball, and awakens Ali Price. Tommy Seymour gives away

:50:37.:50:42.

the penalty, crossing, obstruction. It's a penalty for Wales. Its wide

:50:43.:50:51.

out. What's the option here? If you go on the England game, Alun Wyn

:50:52.:50:55.

Jones went for the corner. Dan Biggar looks as if he's shaping up

:50:56.:51:00.

to go for the corner as well. Dan Biggar asks the question. Ryan

:51:01.:51:07.

Bobbin try is indicated. They've indicated to go for goal, so they

:51:08.:51:11.

can't change their mind. Oh, no, he hasn't. They can. Wales for the

:51:12.:51:17.

corner. I thought once you've indicated, it's halfway across the

:51:18.:51:25.

fields. If anything comes of this, but it's obstruction. Ken Owens, Sam

:51:26.:51:31.

Warburton, the drive comes on. Wales obstruct in front of the ball.

:51:32.:51:37.

Penalty to Scotland and Jonny Gray celebrates. The crowd are relieved.

:51:38.:51:47.

Change at scrum-half. Yes, Henry Pyrgos, a very experienced

:51:48.:51:55.

campaigner. Most similar to Greig Laidlaw. It's out, Rhys Webb steals.

:51:56.:52:05.

Can he finish? It will go to review. That's a question of a try, yes, or

:52:06.:52:09.

no. Rhys Webb has been outstanding so far. Look how sharp he's been a

:52:10.:52:14.

game. If he beats Tim Visser, in half a metre of space, it's an

:52:15.:52:19.

incredible finish. Look at his left hand. It looks like it touches the

:52:20.:52:26.

line just before. Just in touch. Line-out. Scotland throw. So close.

:52:27.:52:34.

Fraser Brown, the hooker. Still there on the Scottish side.

:52:35.:52:48.

Pyrgos to John Barclay. Russell, long to Hogg. Tim Visser.

:52:49.:53:08.

Scotland break out and their lead goes.

:53:09.:53:15.

Watch this for a pass from Stuart Hogg. Quick as you can through the

:53:16.:53:23.

hands. Boldin George North. Watch this from the past, through the

:53:24.:53:29.

hands. Tim Visser goes again. STUDIO:

:53:30.:53:32.

Here we are, three fifths of the way through it and England are on top,

:53:33.:53:37.

courtesy of the bonus point today at Twickenham, three points clear of

:53:38.:53:40.

Ireland but it's a 3-way title fight. England against Scotland next

:53:41.:53:46.

time round and Wales against Ireland on Friday night. Edinburgh was

:53:47.:53:50.

rocking late last night, I vaguely recall, and there were two

:53:51.:53:52.

conversations that were dominating the debate. One of which was

:53:53.:53:56.

Seymour's try, of which more in a moment. The other was the Welsh

:53:57.:54:01.

supporters saying, Alun Wyn Jones and the kick for the corner, or the

:54:02.:54:05.

kick for goal. You've been in that situation many times in

:54:06.:54:07.

International Rugby Board stop if we just hear the conversation that

:54:08.:54:12.

actually took place during that, and then you can put your spin on it.

:54:13.:54:20.

I'll have the penalty. Corner, out, out. Hang on, do you want to go

:54:21.:54:29.

corner? Indicators. He is indicated. He's indicated, he told me. No,

:54:30.:54:42.

boys, boys, let's go. So, what's happening there? I don't know if

:54:43.:54:45.

Alun Wyn Jones did indicate to the corner but if he did, and this is

:54:46.:54:50.

the killer of the penalty here that comes after, but if he did, when I

:54:51.:54:54.

was in that position, when it was that far out to the touchline, if I

:54:55.:54:57.

fancied having a go I'd make sure the kicker was interested in having

:54:58.:55:00.

a go as well. There's nothing worse than having a kicker who doesn't

:55:01.:55:05.

fancy taking a shot, so you have the conversation before you make the

:55:06.:55:12.

declaration, but I think one of the things that has happened there, if

:55:13.:55:15.

you do decide to go to the corner, the penalty there is a killer. They

:55:16.:55:18.

need to at least win the ball and if it's on the ground at least they are

:55:19.:55:21.

five metres on the Scottish line with possession. If they give away a

:55:22.:55:27.

penalty, Scotland can exit with a 40 metre kick down the pitch and it's a

:55:28.:55:31.

killer blow to the mentality. If you see the Scottish players celebrating

:55:32.:55:33.

when the penalty was awarded, that was a big moment in the game. Lets

:55:34.:55:38.

see the Seymour try. Was this crossing? Should it have been a

:55:39.:55:45.

penalty? Or was it brilliant? It's good play. The dummy runner comes

:55:46.:55:52.

in, but Liam bites on it, he's out of the game because he's in front of

:55:53.:55:56.

the ball. It's obstruction that creates a space for Visser on the

:55:57.:56:01.

outside. Because he bites early tokens of the gap for Vista, he runs

:56:02.:56:06.

inside shoulder for Leigh Halfpenny and he scores. So, for me, I don't

:56:07.:56:09.

think it's obstruction. They called it right. He in front of the ball.

:56:10.:56:16.

Paul, what do you think? I think it's obstruction. I don't think he's

:56:17.:56:18.

in a position to get the ball and he's in front of Hogg when Hogg

:56:19.:56:23.

passes the ball. If Hogg had given it there, it wasn't, but he's in

:56:24.:56:27.

front of Hogg when he passes the ball. I think it's borderline 50-50.

:56:28.:56:33.

He can be in front of him, he just can't beat the left side as we look

:56:34.:56:39.

the right side of him. But Liam Williams, if Liam Williams ran into

:56:40.:56:43.

Hugh Jones, its penalty. Look at that offensive linemen, Finn Russell

:56:44.:56:50.

flies the pass out on the outside shoulder, George North has to make a

:56:51.:56:53.

decision. He's jumped out of the line again. It's a brilliant pass,

:56:54.:56:57.

on normal speed the two passes bullet like. The passive quick and

:56:58.:57:04.

then the Hogg pass, this is in slow motion. He zips it out, there it

:57:05.:57:11.

goes, but shooting up the line a bit, and if you hit his outside

:57:12.:57:16.

shoulder with the pass, the path could beat him, but the difference

:57:17.:57:19.

has been for Wales, for me, the penalty kick, go for goal or not.

:57:20.:57:26.

16-13, a conversion rate in scoring tries from those positions are very

:57:27.:57:31.

low, so you get back and you are drawing again. So for me, Scotland,

:57:32.:57:36.

they are asking questions of the Welsh defence, where we aren't doing

:57:37.:57:42.

that anymore. Well, so many questions, not many answers, but

:57:43.:57:45.

actually, riveting, absolutely riveting for the weekend. Thank you,

:57:46.:57:49.

guys, for being with us. In a fortnight's time, Wales and Ireland

:57:50.:57:53.

on the Friday night, on the Saturday night it is utterly against France

:57:54.:57:57.

and England against Scotland. England have now won ten matches in

:57:58.:58:00.

a row in the championship for the first time in 92 years. Scanned

:58:01.:58:06.

Scotland or Ireland beat them? What tactics will they employ? We will

:58:07.:58:10.

see you in two weeks' time. Thank you for watching. Goodbye.

:58:11.:58:25.

COMMENTATOR: The opening try. A corner. What a

:58:26.:58:38.

try for England. Three tries. He's in. Anthony Watson. Danny Care. This

:58:39.:58:48.

is why he's been picked in England's Grand Slam. Ben Te'o. Elliot Daly

:58:49.:58:54.

for England scores! Care. So, apparently Red Nose Day is back.

:58:55.:59:03.

Cool. We love Red Nose Day. Yes. So, Comic Relief have asked

:59:04.:59:06.

if we could maybe help this year. Comic Relief? Yes.

:59:07.:59:11.

So, like, what is that? Right.

:59:12.:59:14.

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