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Tackling excessive fees paid on pension funds, the government says

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it wants to stop workers being overcharged. It claims limiting the

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fees could save millions of people tens of thousands of pounds. How

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would it work in practice? We will be looking at the figures. Also, a

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row in the Commons over energy price hike ahead of an announcement on

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plans to investigate competition in the industry. The back-to-work

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schemes hard disk -- are declared legally flawed but the Supreme Court

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rejects claims that they are now to force Labour. The 25-year-old

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student found stabbed to death on his final pizza delivery shift

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before starting a new career in IT. Sainsbury's and Tesco was are locked

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in a fight over a campaign to compare prices between

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supermarkets. Later on BBC London, hospitals to have accident and

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emergency downgraded. The biggest shake-up the NHS has seen. Five

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years since Westfield opened but how has it weathered the recession?

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Good afternoon. Paying into a workplace pension pot is meant to

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secure financial security in retirement, but many people could be

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losing out because too much of their money is being paid out on the

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administration fees and other costs charged by pension companies. The

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government is proposing a on the fees charged by auto and Roman

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funds. -- in Roman funds. They are going to consult even though they

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claim the fees are at the lowest levels. -- enrolment. The government

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wants us to save more for our pension. Many of us are being

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enrolled into new workplace schemes. It is a big shake-up, and the

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government wants to make sure savers don't get ripped off. With 10

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million people going into workplace pensions over the next few years it

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is vital they get you for money. This is a short consultation, we

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will act early, and make sure every pound goes into pensions turns into

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a pension, not charges. These charges sound small but they really

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do add up. If you join a pension scheme with a 1% charge, and start

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to ?100 a month, according to government figures that could cost

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you ?170,000 in today's money by the time you retire. If the charges is

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1.5%, it means ?230,000 taken from your pension pot. Ministers say the

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providers need to cut costs, but the industry says lots of companies

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already charge less than the proposed. Pension charges are at

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their lowest ever level. However, charge capping has serious

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unintended consequences. You might find over time that the charge moves

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towards the. It is a growing concern having enough to live on. This would

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apply to the new scheme, but some say there are other fees and costs

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the government should tackle. What is equally important is that when

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you come to the point that you need to get money out of your pension

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scheme, that is the value. Hurriedly, there are no controls on

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any of those charges. -- currently. Most importantly is putting enough

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money into your pension. The government wants to make sure the

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pennies will turn into a bigger pot as possible. Our chief economic

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correspondent is with us. I am sure people will have questions. In terms

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of how significant it is, what is the answer? Intentionally very

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significant. As we heard, if you are coming in to a working scheme, the

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difference between 0.5 and 1.5 is huge. Thousands of extra fees. If

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the government wants people automatically in rolled, they will

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only be able to opt out if they want to, they do not want those people

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being ripped off. They will benefit if charges are limited. People

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already in schemes, which people will be opted into, will benefit.

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The problem will come with the detail. If they end up with limit,

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what about people on schemes at the moment that are below? We do not

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know how that will pan out in terms of the detail in the consultation,

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and the industry is already saying that the fees have come down

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naturally because of competition. Lots of work to be done. More

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answers to come. The cost of our energy bills has again dominated by

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ministers question Time, with heated exchanges between the leaders. --

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PMQs. David Cameron responded by calling Labour's plans for a freeze

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on energy bills are conned. Tomorrow, the government will

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announce new plans for energy competition. This was the lunchtime

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after the afternoon before. Yesterday afternoon, the bosses of

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the big six energy companies came to Westminster expecting a duffing up

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from MPs. That is what they got. They will have expected that was not

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the end of the argument and sure enough it is not. Ed Miliband has

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grabbed the political attention of the last few weeks with his promise

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that if he becomes prime minister he would freeze energy bills for the

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best part of two years. The Prime Minister thinks it is unworkable,

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but it does have the advantage of being easily understood. We should

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not be surprised that there was a return to fairly familiar political

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territory. The big six energy companies now plenty of customers

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don't trust them, and they found out that plenty of MPs do not as well.

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The Prime Minister will have been expecting that this big political

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issue will come up again. Ed Miliband is convinced the prime

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ministers on the wrong side of the argument. Having listened to the

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select committee yesterday, what is the difference between its policy on

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energy and that of the energy companies? The Prime Minister said

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it is clear what the industry needs. More competition and lower levies to

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drive profits and prices down. Ed Miliband is sufficiently confident

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he has the Prime Minister on the back foot. He stuck with it. He is

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still on the side of the energy companies, we should call them the

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big seven, the Prime Minister and them. Why is it he has gone from

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Rambo to Bambi? Who gave us the big six? Labour. When they first looked

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at this, there were 20 companies. Because of his stewardship, we ended

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up with six. The cost of -- the argument about keeping the heating

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on is personal. Ed Miliband was the energy secretary. The government

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will shift focus to its plans and announce an investigation into the

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competitiveness of the energy market. Do not expect that to be the

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end of the matter. This focus on energy slots into a bigger theme,

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the cost of living. As evidence that the economy is on the mend, the big

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argument is on who benefits. Prices are rising quicker than wages. We

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can get more by speaking to Robert Peston. As Chris was saying, the

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government has plans for an investigation. Those in the industry

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want another investigation entirely. That is right. It is a paradox. The

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investigation that a couple of energy bosses want, the head of E.ON

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and EDF Energy, would be much more detailed and actually potentially

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much more damaging to them. The government's investigation, we will

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get more details, we'll look at whether the status quo of the big

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six companies being able to sell to us and generate power, whether the

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status quo can be made to operate more in the interests of consumers.

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It will look at their prices, their profits, barriers to entry for other

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firms, but it will essentially be trying to make the current system

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work. Here is the thing which I think some people regard as

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remarkable. These two energy bosses think there should be a more

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detailed and comprehensive investigation by the competition

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commission, which would look at whether the structure of these

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companies is actually bad for all of us and bad for the economy. Whether

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the fact that when prices go up, the fact that they make a huge amount of

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money in a generation gives them to little incentive to compete with

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each other to keep prices down for us. Ultimately, their investigation

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could come up with an answer that their businesses should be broken

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up. They say they want that investigation because they believe

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our confidence in their industry is at an all-time low and unless there

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is a thorough review we are going to continue to be desperately upset

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every time they raise prices. Thank you for explaining that. Judges have

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come out against the government over its back-to-work scheme. Ministers

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had wanted them to overturn an earlier decision that the scheme was

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legally flawed. The case had been brought by a graduate who went to

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court after being made to work at Poundland without pay. Cait Reilly

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had no objection to working for a living but she considered being

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forced to spend two weeks at a Poundland store without pay to be

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beyond the pale. She had been sent there on the controversial

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back-to-work scheme. One of thousands of job seekers told they

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would lose benefits if they fail to comply. She took the government to

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court and won. Ministers appealed, but today the Supreme Court has

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upheld her victory. It has been a long journey, we have come a long

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way, and I am really glad and very proud that the Supreme Court has

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upheld the appeal. I just hope new legislation and regulations will

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help other job-seekers in their search for employment. Although the

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court found the government scheme was floored in the way it had been

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set up, they rejected the notion that it amounted to forced Labour.

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In principle, the government can withdraw benefits from people who

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refuse to take part in similar work schemes. Rumack five Supreme Court

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judges said the intention of what we are doing is correct, what we are

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aiming to do is correct, and that has to be positive news all round.

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But lawyers for Cait Reilly say the battle over the basic principle of

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the programme is not over. We were not comparing the scheme to slave

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Labour, but we are going to take stock and decide whether to appeal

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to the European Court of human rights on that issue. Cait Reilly

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has employment in a supermarket at the moment, but this time she is

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being paid. Sainsbury is is locked in a fight with Tesco over a

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campaign which compares prices in supermarkets and offers to repay the

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difference if goods can be found elsewhere cheaper. Sainsbury said it

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is misleading because it uses own brand products which cannot be

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compared fairly. Tesco denies this claim. In the supermarket aisles, it

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is easy to get confused. Weird U-turn for the cheapest deals, the

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best races, money off? It is almost impossible to know where the

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cheapest places. It is very difficult with the way that pricing

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is done, what products are included, to say for certain that

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you have the right deal, the best deal for you, to the supermarkets

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must now tidy up their pricing and make it much more comparing all,

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much more straightforward. -- comparator will. One thing which is

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guaranteed is a battle between the supermarket giants. Sainsbury

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announced it was taking the fight to judicial review. It is an argument

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over whether Tesco's price promise, which compares the price of a basket

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to other supermarkets, is fear. Sainsbury said it is unfair because

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it does not compare like-for-like products, for example, the basic tea

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bags in Sainsbury are fair trade but Tesco does not have them. The

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response is that Tesco offers value for money and reassurance and that

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is what they want. Sainsbury has already taken the complaint to the

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industry regulator but it lost and lost again on appeal. In a

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statement, they said... So, now the supermarket war is

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heading for the high court. Which is a rather expensive way of saving a

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few pennies. In the past few minutes newspaper

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and magazine publishers have lost a bid to stop the introduction of new

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press regulation, they argued they weren't properly consulted about the

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scheme and their own plans weren't given enough consideration. Our

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media correspondent has just come from the high court. So what has the

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court heard? Well, the consideration this morning was all about the

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press's version of their Royal Charter for press regulation, which

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they presented earlier this year, and the Government has been

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considering all along. And rejected on the 11th November. The way that

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was rejected and thrown out, well, the press said was unfair,

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irrational Kafka-esque and they totally doubted the process by which

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it was done. However in the last few moments the judge has said that he

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believed there had been ample time for them to understand all the

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criteria following the Leveson Report about what they had to meet

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when it came to press reform and he said they knew all the detail, and

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they had no duty for instance to be told what the public thought about

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these things, so negotiation for an injunction is stopped and he said

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also he believes there is no grounds for a judicial review of this whole

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process, which is what the press wants. However, does that mean that

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at 5.30 this afternoon automatically the Privy Council will agree this

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with the Queen? And we will have a new process of press regulation set

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up? We are not sure yet. There is a possibility there maybe an appeal

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this afternoon, so it is not over yet. Thank you for now. Our main

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stories this lunchtime. The Government's proposing a cap on

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theifies paid to pension funds because workers could be losing out

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to the tune of tens of thousands of pounds. Still to come. A safe house

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for drug users. It is being trialed in Denmark. Could it come to the UK?

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Later on BBC London. Serving pie and mash since the 1920, now this shop

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has been awarded Grade-II listed status.

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And we neat the 15-year-old climbing champion, who is beating adults

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nearly twice her age. Is providing somewhere safe for

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addicts to take drugs the best way to save lives? And help clean up

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drug risen areas of towns and cities? It an idea that has received

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support from the Police and Crime Commissioner for couldn't Ron Hogg,

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he has been looking at examples of cities like Copenhagen which

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operates drug consumption rooms. Our correspondent has been this to see

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how they work and hear the arguments for and against, introducing them

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here. Denmark has a reputation for a high standard of living, and its

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regularly rated one of the happiest places in the world. But it its

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capital Copenhagen is home to the biggest drug scene in Scandinavia.

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Since last year, though, addicts like Cas have been shooting up

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inside legal drug consulion rooms. This is his third fix of the day.

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It is heroin mixed with cocaine. Addicts arrive here from eight in

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the morning until midnight. They bring their own drugs which are

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illegal in Denmark, although police in the area don't arrest users for

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possession. What they get for free is sterile equipment, so, things

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like syringe, and also over here, needles. A million of these have

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been handed out in the past year. It is difficult to understand and

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people look, there is children, so it is better when they make these

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rooms where you can use your drug, you get everything, you get needles,

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everything. Two of my best friends died this year because they were not

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in a room like this. Every people who has OD in this room, nobody has

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died. The drug rooms are available for all long-term addicts in this

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community, no-one's forced to sign up to rehab programmes, although

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there are signs that more are starting to seek treatment. This

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area used to be littered with syringes, social workers say they

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would pick up several hundred every day. But since the drug consumption

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rooms opened a year ago it has become difficult to spot any. But

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the projects remain a controversial idea.

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We think that maybe we should use the resources is on getting them out

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of the use of drugs, instead of providing facilities for them to

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don't take drugs and providing a zone where the police cannot enforce

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the drug law, that is a big dilemma, we are concerned this may mean that

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more people continue to use drug, and that there will be more dealing

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in the area. We have been out on patrol with

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police, and it is clear that despite all the efforts to clear up the

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neighbourhood, there is still work to be done. Officers is admit it has

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been a change, directing people to places where they can take drugs

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safely, rather than arresting them. But Danish police believe the idea

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could also work in the UK. Perhaps not to solve the country's

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drug problem, but as a key part of the solution.

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Public confidence in the police here is said to have fallen since the

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so-called plebgate row which led to the resignation of the Government

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Chief Whip Andrew Mitchell. Now it seems that many officers are losing

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confidence in the organisation that represents them, the Police

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Federation. 91% of those questioned said it needed to change. Let us tae

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UK to our Home Affairs correspondent. I will ask what this

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change might be. First a reminder of the background. The new leadership

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team at the Police Federation decided to have a review into itself

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and the review is being carried out by a team chaired by a former senior

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civil servant. This is his first report and it is strong stuff. The

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review involved a survey of 12,500 police officers, and many said they

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were appalled at the damage that plebgate has done to policing, of

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course last week we had three police fed representatives from the

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Midlands before a a Parliamentary committee. The Crown Prosecution

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Service is deciding whether to bring charges against a number of Scotland

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Yard officers and the review describes the police fed as an

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organisation that has turned in on itself and is in danger of losing

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public confidence. What does the police fed do? It accepts the review

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is worrying, perhaps an understatement, but it says it needs

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to change, it acknowledges that, this is the first stage of the whole

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report process, there is another report coming, so what it

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acknowledges it has to do is work with others to try and find a way

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ahead and find out how to reform the organisation. Police are appealing

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for witnesses after a 25-year-old man pizza delivery man was found

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stabbed to death. Thavisha Peiris was on his last delivery shift

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before starting a new career. He had been paying for hist studies by

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doing the delivery rounds. A terribly tragic story, what are the

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police saying? Yes, police said that he was a bright, intelligent

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hard-working student, and that he came to this country for a better

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life. But on Sunday night, his body was found in this small car park

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behind me, he was slumped in a car, and he had been stabbed to death. It

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was his final delivery, on his final shift for the pits STAE company he

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was working for, he was due to start work as an IT consultant, something

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police said he was extremely proud about. South Yorkshire Police have

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50 detectives on this cases now, this is a built-up area, they

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believe someone might have seen or heard something. They want them to

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come forward. Sunday was his last shift and this

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was his last delivery, that he was going to make, so it is an absolute

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tragedy, it was a brutal attack, we don't know what the motive was, at

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this moment in time, we don't know whether it was a robbery, we are not

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aware of any enemies, that he had, he was a well liked individual, said

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to be a calm, lad, never in any trouble at all, just a very

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hard-working genuine, caring young lad.

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Police also said his death has cudded untold grief in Sri Lanka.

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His mother, father and brother are preparing to come to Sheffield right

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now to help police as they appeal for information. Four French

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hostages who were seized by Al-Qaeda linked gunmen in Niger in 2010 have

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arrived back in France following their release yesterday. They were

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welcomed by the French President frill roll they were kidnapped at

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the side of a -- Francois Hollande. French run mine. A Royal Marine has

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insisted the man was dead when he fired at him. He has blamed a stupid

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lack of self control for what happened. His defence got under way

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at a military court. Our defence correspondent is there. Jonathan.

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The prosecution's shown a video taken from a helmet camera. They say

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it shows the royal marines executing a Taliban prisoner. Today it was the

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turn of the defence, we heard from marine A, he admitted that they

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treated in his words that prisoner robustly, he described them dragging

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that bloody body to a tree line, they said they took him there to

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administer first-aid not to hide from a helicopter circling above. In

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that evidence, marine A said he believed that prisoner was actually

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dead, it was then that he said he pulled out his pistol, he was asked

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why he fired the shot into the body. He said it was stupid, a lack of

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self control. He was then asked about his next words. There you are,

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shuffle off this more tan coil. Marine A said that was foolish

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bravado and he went on the say in that video, this doesn't go anywhere

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fella, I have just broken the Geneva Convention. He said he said that

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because he believed by firing a shot into the dead body of a prisoner he

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might have been breaking the rules of war. All three marines, deny

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murder, the judge has ruled in this trial, that the video cannot be

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released, because it could endanger the lives of those in the front

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line. We have been hearing a lot recently

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about allegations of Americans spying on Europe, now the charge is

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that Russia spied on delegates at the recent G20 summit in St

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Petersburg by handing out free technology gadgets capable of

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feeding information back to Moscow. When world leaders gathered in St

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Petersburg last month, did their Russian hosts spy on them? That is

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the allegation made by two Italian newspapers. The Russians, they say,

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providing memory sticks and phone chargers which on later inspection

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were found to have bugs in them. The devices allowed e-mail, text

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messages and phone calls to be monitored. A spokesman for the

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Russian leader said the reports are not true, but it is is not the first

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time stories like this have surfaced from international gathering.

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In the summer, the Guardian reported that the British and Americans had

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behaved in much the same way, at two G20 meetings four years ago. Amid

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more recent allegations, an EU delegation has been in Washington

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this week, senior German officials will be at the White House later

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today, following claims that Angela Merkel's phone was bugged.

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On Capitol Hill intelligence chiefs have been explaining themselves to

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Congress. Generally unrepentant and speaking for their counterparts

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everywhere when they explained what this is all about. As long as I have

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been in the intelligence business, 50 years, leadership intention, in

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whatever form that is expressed is kind of a basic tenet of what we

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collect and analyse. Members of Congress seem satisfied

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but there are voices of dissent in Washington. Moves are afoot to limit

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the activities of the National Security Agency. But the

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intelligence bossed insist reports the NSA trawled through -- trawled

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through many millions of phone calls are plain wrong. Much the data say

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they was gathered by the Europeans themselves and shared with the US.

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It is time knew for a look at the weather.

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A bright crisp sunny chilly start, shallow fog, first frost of the

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season for some of us. The outlook is far from tranquil, because

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despite a bright start, the cloud has been piling in from the west, as

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you can see on the satellite picture, and we have seen heavy rain

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already in parts of Northern Ireland, pushing in to Scotland,

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Wales and western England, heavy rain and strong winds too,

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particularly across the far north-west of Scotland for a time,

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gusts up to 60mph and some sharp bursts of rain. The odd shower in

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the far south-east, but plenty of brightness here holding on.

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Temperatures not too bad, but further west with the wind and rain

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not feeing comfortable. Maybe late brightness in the more western

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parts. Now through this evening the rain will continue to edge its way

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eastwards, in a sporadic fashion. Some damps in the east. The winds

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will drop out. We could see fog through the central area, watch out

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for that. Further showers pushing into the more northern and western

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parts. Some showers to the west coast, but there is that zone of

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fog, so for the early morning commute, it could be tricky, that

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rain lingering in south-east England and East Anglia for a time, and then

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up to the north-west, breakfast time, already windy and further

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blustery showers, particularly in the west of Scotland, there could be

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a lot of rain, shower after shower after shower, the totals will tot

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up. As we go through the day the showers will become more widespread

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in northern and western area, the damp in the the south-east will fade

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away. Disturbed for many other places and

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again it will feel cool. Temperatures 11 or 12 degree, maybe

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15 in the south-east, if it does brighten up. If you are trick or

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treating be prepared for blustery conditions and nobody immune from

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shower, they will become widespread, then all eyes to the south-west,

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with the developing area of low pressure, it looks nasty, we are

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keeping a close eye on this, early warnings have been issued for the

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more southern parts of the UK, bands of rain pushing their way north

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wards, some could be persistent and heavy. Some places could catch up to

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an inch or more of rain. It stays blustery, sunshine and showers, the

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weekend disturbed, very windy again, there will be spells of heavy rain,

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yes, there will be sunshine, but be wear some nasty weather expected

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through this weekend. A reminder of the main story: The government has

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proposed a limit on the fees paid to pension companies because of

:31:25.:31:27.

concerns workers could be losing out to the tune of 10,000 -- tens of

:31:28.:31:32.

thousands of pounds. That is all

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