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The UK's spy bosses are about to be quizzed in public by MPs in an

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unprecedented move. The bosses of MI6, MI5 and GCHQ will

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be televised as they answer questions amid continuing damaging

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revelations from former US analyst Edward Snowden.

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A court martial is played a recording of the moments before a

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Royal Marine allegedly shot dead a Taliban prisoner.

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It has emerged the terror suspect who fled from a London mosque in a

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burka has been seeking government compensation over torture

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allegations. A surprise for London commuters as

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the Duke and Duchess Cambridge turn up to support the Royal British

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legion's Poppy Appeal. And the Olympic Torch is about to

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make history, it's arrived in space ahead of its first space walk this

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afternoon. Stuart Lancaster named a whole new

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front row. Good afternoon and welcome to the

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BBC News at One. In an unprecedented move, the heads of Britain's three

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intelligence agencies will appear together in public for the first

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time this afternoon. Their appearance in front of the

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intelligence and Security to will be televised. The former director of

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GCHQ said he hoped it means a move towards greater openness. It come

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that are damaging revelations from Edward Snowden.

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Today, Parliament will be host to something neither it or the watching

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public have seen before. The three chiefs of Britain's spy agencies

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appearing together in front of television cameras to be questioned

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by parliamentarians. Andrew Parker is head of the

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Security service, it deals with domestic threats like terrorism and

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espionage. Sir John Sawers is the chief of MI6.

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They collect human intelligence abroad from agents. Sir Ian Lobb and

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is the director of GCHQ, the communications intelligence agency

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which monitors phone and Internet traffic. Together the three will

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talk about the threats they see and what they are doing to deal with

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them. GCHQ has been the most secret but has been thrust into the

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spotlight thanks to revelations by Edward Snowden whose leaks revealed

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the scale of capabilities GCHQ uses in conjunction with the Americans.

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Journalists who have worked with Edward Snowden said better oversight

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of spies is vital. There was a system of mass spying that the

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British and American people had no idea about. I believe it can bring

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about accountability if there is political will. Sir Malcolm Rifkind

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is chair of the committee and will lead the questioning. A time delay

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on the television feed means secrets are unlikely to be spilt. The

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committee itself will be under scrutiny to see if it is capable of

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providing real accountability. A former GCHQ director believes this

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is an important moment. This is the first opportunity the committee have

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had in public to demonstrate its new role, its new status as a

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Parliamentary committee. It has new powers and more resources and now it

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has to convince the public it is capable of overseeing activities of

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the intelligence community. Intelligence chiefs used to hide

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from the spotlight, even their names were on known. Today they will be

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thrust to the centre of attention in parliament meaning, for the first

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time, the public get a chance to see the people who spy on Britain.

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More from our political correspondent at Westminster. This

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is a moment of extraordinary theatre. There is an industry of

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intrigue and fascination around spying. Why? Because so much of it

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happens in secret and will continue to happen in secret. In the next

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hour, the three men we have been hearing about whose careers are

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shrouded in secrecy, will appear here. They will face scrutiny in

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front of MPs and the cameras. It will be intriguing to see what

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anthers they can offer given the recent revelations romped Edward

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Snowden. Intriguing will be the tone that MPs strike. Because this is

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happening in public and because of the limitations of what these men

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can say, to what extent will they be able to learn something? We will

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learn something, no doubt, simply by seeing them. There is a back-up, if

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any of the Spooks, the spies say something like a state secret, they

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can pull the plug on the live TV feed. That would mean none of those

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state secrets would leave the room. And you can watch full coverage of

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the hearing on the BBC News Channel from 2pm.

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It has been revealed in the High Court that the terror suspect who

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fled from a West London mosque disguised in a burka is seeking

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compensation from the government. Mohammed Ahmed Mohamed, who cut off

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his electronic tag before he disappeared, alleged the British

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authorities were complicit in his torture in Somaliland in 2011. This

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man brought this case before he went on the run, he brought it with

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another terrorism suspects. Both of these men were claiming that when

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they were in Somaliland they were tortured by authorities there. They

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said the British were complicit. In the case of Mohammed Ahmed Mohamed,

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he is naming the Foreign Office, the Home Office, the Ministry of Defence

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and the Attorney General. The other man is also implicating MI5 and MI6.

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There was a very brief hearing this morning, very brief. Basically, that

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involves whether secret intelligence could be heard at a future hearing.

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The subject of his disappearance was not addressed. A military jury has

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retired to consider its verdict in the court-martial of three Royal

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Marines accused of murder. All three Marines, who are not being named,

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deny murdering an Afghan insurgent. Audio footage of the incident which

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led to their arrest had been played in court.

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That was what was played in court, we can talk to our defence

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correspondent. Tell us about what happened in court this morning. This

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is the audio from a video which the judge last week ruled should not be

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released to the media, even though it had been played in open court on

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the first day of this trial. At legal argument, the audio and some

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stills have been released to the media this morning. That was a small

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part of around six minutes of dialogue between the three Royal

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Marines which was caught on the video which itself led to their

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prosecution. At the moment, the jury or board as it is known here, have

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gone out to deliberate their verdict. Their verdict will centre

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on the allegation that all three killed beyond known insurgent, or

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were party to the killing of the insurgent in a field in Helmand

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province in September 2011. What we do not know at this stage is whether

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the anonymity order will be listed on the three. The judge gave his

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summing up yesterday asking the board to consider the case against

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each defendant separately and to use their own experience of life and the

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Armed Forces when considering their verdict against the three. MPs say

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nearly half ?1 billion spent developing the government's flagship

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welfare reform may have to be written off. The Commons Public

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affairs committee is warning oversight of the Universal Credit

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scheme has been alarmingly weak. Millions of people who claim a

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series of different, complicated benefits will eventually move to a

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new system applying online and getting one monthly payment. The

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ambitious project is called Universal Credit, but it has had a

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troubled beginning. A tiny number are actually claiming it in a

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handful of pilots. Braun went on to Universal Credit in September after

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losing his job, he has not had a smooth experience. They said they

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would get me an appointment at the job centre within two days, that did

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not happen. They said they would return my phone calls within three

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hours, that did not happen. MPs said ?140 million have been wasted on

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computer systems. Today's report says the whole project has been

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blighted by weak management. It is an unmitigated disaster of

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extraordinary proportions. Ministers say they do not want to play the

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blame game over what went wrong in the past, but to concentrate on the

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future of this project. There is still the question of who takes

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responsibility for the serious problems? Senior civil servants

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still in place? Or the ministers themselves? Labour sources say there

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was a concerted effort by allies of Iain Duncan Smith to shift blame

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away from him towards the permanent Secretary of the department.

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Ministers say they have full confidence in the top civil servant

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and the new managers working on Universal Credit. We put a new team

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in, a new team leader, and we reset the programmes to make sure that as

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we roll it out safely and securely, it will deliver what we needed to

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deliver. In greater Manchester, teams have been trying to explain

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Universal Credit to the small number of people affected so far. There is

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still a big question, when will this new system be ready for millions of

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potential claimants? Almost one third of councils in

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England are planning to increase council tax next year according to

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new research. A survey by the new government Chronicle found that most

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councils are considering a rise. The jury in the phone hacking trial

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at the Old Bailey have been hearing house then you're in Ericsson and

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the leader of the Fire Brigades Union Andy Gilchrist both had their

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voice mail targeted because they both had affairs. -- Sven Goran

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Eriksson. The prosecution says both of these

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affairs became big news because of phone hacking. Friend Goran Eriksson

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was revealed in 2004 to have had an affair. -- Sven Goran Eriksson. Most

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of the evidence had been in written statements in the last few days, it

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suggests that details of her mobile phone, PIN numbers for her voice

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mail were done without her permission. Turning to Andy

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Gilchrist, the Fire Brigades Union leader, during the strike the sun

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revealed he had had an affair with a colleague in the fire brigade, some

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years before it had to be said. He said he could not understand how

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journalists seem to be finding out where he was at a particular time.

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He felt they had access to confidential information about him.

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He said he and colleagues joked that when they were leaving messages on

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each other's phones that they might be being listened to by MI5 or MI6.

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Tracy Holland, when she was confronted about the story, said the

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journalist dealing with her from the sun said he had reported back every

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night about the story to Rebekah Brooks. She was editor of News of

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the World and moved to the sum at the point where this story was being

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written. It is the Crown's case that she had to know about the phone

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hacking. All the defendants, but in particular Andy Colson and Rebekah

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Brooks denied their role in conspiring to be involved in the

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interception of phone messages. They deny all the charges against them. A

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20 old man has appeared in court charged with the manslaughter of two

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teenage girls after they were hit by a car on Sunday morning. Our

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correspondent is a Portsmouth Magistrates' Court for us. What

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happened in court? This court hearing related to an incident which

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happened in the early hours of Sunday morning. Police were called

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following reports of a collision between a car and two teenage girls.

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Olivia Lewry, who was 16, was taken to hospital where she later died.

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The pair were best friends. They were described as independent and

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strong minded individuals who lived their lives to the full. As news of

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their deaths spread throughout the community, people left tributes and

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flowers at the place of the crash. Last night, detectives announced

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they had charged a 21 man two counts of manslaughter. He appeared at

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court this morning and spoke to confirm his name and personal

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details. He was remanded in custody and will appear in court tomorrow.

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Our top story this lunchtime, UK spy bosses are about to be quizzed in

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public about their work. The move follows damaging relegation is --

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revelations from Edward Snowden. Still to come, something worth

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tweeting about. Twitter makes it debut on the New York Stock

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Exchange. Later, all the sport on BBC News,

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including the latest England squad. Roy Hodgson names the players to

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face Chile and Germany in friendlies as the team continues its

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preparation for the World Cup. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge

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surprise hundreds of Londoners today as they joined poppy sellers outside

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a tube station in Kensington. They travelled thereby bus to support the

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Royal British Legion's Poppy appeal ahead of Remembrance Sunday. A few

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milestone the Road, Prince Harry was accompanying the Duke of Edinburgh

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for his visits to the Field of Remembrance.

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It is that time of year when the generations stand together to

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remember. In the Field of Remembrance at Westminster Abbey, a

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grandfather and a grandson. The Duke of Edinburgh, 92 now, who saw active

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service in the Royal Navy in World War II, and Prince Harry, who on

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Remembrance Sunday last year was serving with his regiment, the Army

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Air Corps in Afghanistan. The Duke and the prince placed their

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crosses, joining the many hundred already in the Field of Remembrance.

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Crosses which embraced remembrance across the decades, from men lost in

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the First World War on the battlefields of the Western front,

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to the more recent casualties, soldiers killed serving in

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Afghanistan. It was the first time the opening of the Field of

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Remembrance had been attended by Harry. His grandfather had invited

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him, a chance for the younger generation to become more visibly

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associated with remembrance and a brawl which the Duke has performed

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for years. The Duke remains very busy. He will attend five different

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remembrance events over the next few days, most with the Queen. More and

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more, there is the sense that the Royal family is looking to the

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future, and the baton has been passed. Harry's presence was

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appreciated by the veterans. I'm pleased to see him here. Why was not

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expecting him to be here. Woodward told the Duke of Edinburgh was

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coming. But he is one of us. He has served. The younger generation has

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got to come, because Prince Philip and the Queen are getting on and it

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is nice that the young ones can do it. And two more of the younger ones

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were certainly getting aboard this morning. William and Catherine

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