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Good evening. You're watching BBC Newsline with Sarah Travers. The

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top stories this Thursday evening: Tom Elliott stands up to the Orange

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men trying to discipline him for going Constable Ronan Kerr's

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funeral. I do not believe it was any sin or crime to go to the

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funeral of a murdered police officer. Could fines be on the

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cards for people who abuse the nine nine service? I'm live at the

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control room with the detail The multi-million pound grant to

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farmers which MLA's say was a waste of money. S. Meet the brothers who

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could be going for gold together at the London Olympics next year. And

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if you needed anything doing outdoors, today was the day to do

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it - there's more rain on the way. The Ulster Unionist leader, Tom

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Elliott, says he has no regrets about attending the funeral of

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Catholic police officer, Ronan Kerr. As we revealed last night, he and

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his party's Stormont Minister, Danny Kennedy, are facing Orange

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Order disciplinary hearings after a lodge in Belfast complained they

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had broken the rules by attending a Catholic mass. This afternoon, Mr

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Elliot told BBC Newsline that he's been inundated with support from

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the public, including many Orange men. Here's our political

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correspondent Gareth Gordon. In his shop today, drum maker and orange

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man, William Hewitt was clear where he stood on the row. They broke the

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law, as an Orangeman. As a brother arrange man they went to a chapel

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for a funeral and... They need to take it from there. In this

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loyalist heartland, there were other views. Most people we have

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spoken to here say they believe Tom Elliott and Danny Kennedy did

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nothing wrong. I'm an orange man I would go to funeral. It is against

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the rules. They're ape shepbt rules. Its none sense. You don't think

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there is a problem? No. I think they should be able to g to

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whoever's funeral they want. It is nothing to do with politics.

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Ulster unionist leader came to the BBC for his first interview since

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the storm began. His message - no regrets. I do not believe it was

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any sinner crime to go to the funeral of a murdered police

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officer. Someone who was serving this community, someone who served

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in my constituency. I believe by doing that, that was showing

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leadership from the Ulster Unionist Party and from our community

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towards the services that Ronan Kerr and others are

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proindividualing to this society. Yet the Orange Order of which

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you're a member of, takes a different view. Well I think we

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need to put that in context, in that it appears that one particular

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lodge has made a complaint. That is something that will have to be

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dealt with, through the due processes of the orange institution.

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I'm happy that we follow that due process and I'm happy to

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participate in that process and be part of it. Are you advised think

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lodge has made this complaint? think in the context of what it was

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about, I'm surprised. I'm surprised in the sense that we were doing

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what was right for society. I must say it is very demoralising for me

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at think stage to see this going through the emotions that its for

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the Kerr family. I must say that the Kerr family, I have a lot of

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simpthri for at this time, because I'm sure it is retraumatising them.

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Today the issue was mentioned in the House of Commons. The leader

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will be as shocked as I was to hear do senior members of Ulster

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unionists have been summoned to a Orange Order disciplinary

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proceedings after they attended the funeral of the murdered Catholic

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police officer, Ronan Kerr. Can I ask that we have a shot debate in

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which all members of the House can demonstrate our support for Tom

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Elliott and Danny Kennedy and recognise the responsible way they

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have offered leadership. Elliott said he has had much back.

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I have 45 a -- had a huge amount of support, from the general public,

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but a lot of them from orange men and fellow orange men, people I

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don't even know. The next move is up to LOL 821 who made the

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complaint and the Orange leadership. One in five callers who dialled 999

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here last year did not need emergency help. Over 28,000 callers

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wanted everything from assistance getting into bed to treatment for a

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toothache. Our health correspondent, Marie Louise Connolly, is at the

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ambulance control centre in Knockbracken in south Belfast.

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Abusing the system not only costs lives but is costing the Health

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Service hundreds of thousands of pounds. To improve the system, the

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Health Minister has told the BBC he's considering introducing a

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system where people can also dial 111 as well as imposing those who

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waste paramedics' time. Responding to an emergency and every sect e

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second counts. The calm is to a house where a man is having trouble

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breathing. Within minutes the vehicle leaves the Royal Victoria

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Hospital. Swift action could save a life. While this incident turned

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out to be serious, not all emergency calls are. In fact,

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paramedics are increasingly finding their time is being wasted. It was

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ten to 12 and I was off duty at midnight and when I arrived she

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told me I -- she couldn't get a ring off her finger. Last year the

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ambulance service received 130,000 calls. Around 28,500 were non-

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emergency and included requests for helping to stop a nose bleed,

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finding a missing person, even trading -- treating a tooth ache.

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How can the system be improved? We're looking at best practice

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elsewhere. In England they have a 111 system, that would be an

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alternative for people who are not sure to call and we could fine

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people who progress lively abuse the system. By streamlining the

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service, the minister said he is improiving it, including closing

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the city hospital's A&E. The Royal will become the main hub for

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admitting patient and if a person arrives by car or ambulance, they

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will be assessed. Depending on their condition, they could be

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admitted here, or they could be sent to the city hospital for

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example, if their complaint is cancer-related. However, there is a

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third oop option. If a person arrives here believing they need

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emergency care, they could be sent to an out of hours centre. If it is

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thought a GP could look after them instead. GPs say they want to play

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a bigger role in the reorganisation of emergency care, but insist it

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will come at a price. There needs to be change in patient behaviour

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and patient education in where to go and I think that most doctors

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who work out of hour will say the pressures are severe, most are

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stressed with the amount of work and we would welcome more resource.

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Now the change to the local emergency service is taking pace,

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academics say if managed properly, there could be huge savings.

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believe it will save into the hundreds and thousand over time.

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Because we need joined up thinking about the out of hours service and

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the ambulance and emergency services, people are using the

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emergency service listen they should be using the out of hours

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service. But the savings would be substantial. Well I'm joined by the

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director of operations here. Brian, we're trying to improve the system,

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most of the fault lies with the public. Do you think the par Med

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yibs who are sitting around us here could better assess the situation?

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Yes we could do more work in that field. It has been done in England,

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where paramedics have sat beside call takers and intercepted calls

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and got more information and be able to stop it as an emergency

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call and provide advice, or direct them to another service. We have

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heard stories of people ringing to have a ring removed or to find a

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cat, why do these call get through? Often those calls come through,

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because the caller hasn't given the full information and the call taker

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has no option but to treat it as a high priority, because of patient

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safety and dispatch a blue light ambulance. The health minister has

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said he is considering the system of where the public can dial 111 to

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get information, how helpful would that be? That would be a great

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initiative and it mean question deal with the non-emergency calls,

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it means the patients, the caller, will quet a -- get a better service

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and it will take pressure off the emergency departments. Belfast is

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about to undergo tremendous change to its accident and emergency

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services, the City A&E will close, how close are you to finalising all

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of the details to ensure man power is in place? We do still have a bit

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of work to do. But we will be confident that we will be ready for

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the change. You will be there. You're not quite there yet? Seems

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hard to believe? Well we had to wait until the Belfast Trust had

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finalised their service delivery model. Now we know what will be in

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place, we will put in place the resources to meet that demand.

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While I have been here, for about the past 40 minutes, the same woman,

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the same caller has been calling this centre asking for an ambulance.

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She has been on to this crew here. That is one example of how their

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time is being wasted. Armed officer went to the castle Mara estate

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after reports that shots were fired. Two men were arrested. There are no

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reports of injuries. The police operation is continuing. Two dive

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teams are this evening joining the search for the missing Ballycastle

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woman, Karen Coyles. The 47-year- old, who's a prominent member of

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the McQuillan GAA club in the town, hasn't been seen since Sunday night.

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A subaqua team from Dundalk and the Mourne Underwater Search Team will

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focus on an area below the cliffs where a dog team led the rescue

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services yesterday. A witness in one of the biggest criminal trials

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here for decades has admitted new flaws in his evidence. Robert

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Stewart is testifying at the trial of Mark Haddock and 13 other men,

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some of whom are charged with the murder of Tommy English 11 years

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ago. BBC Newsline's Will Leitch was in court. A day of frank admissions

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and major discrepancies in a witness's evidence. Robert Stewart

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said he has been a terrorist, in his words, a nasty piece of work. A

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defence barrister said his testimony had contraDixs. He told

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the defence that one of the defendants, onBond had been present

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at punishment beating in 1996, but the lawyer said he had new evidence

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showing that Bond had been in prison on that day. There was

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lafter in court. The judge called for quiet and Mr Stewart said, he

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must have made a mistake. Mr Later Barry Macdonald, QC, produced

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new evidence from the day of the Tommy English murder. The RUC has

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seen Mr Milner a car leaving and reenstering the area twice in ten

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mince. This when Mr Stewart said Miller was in an area six miles

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away. Robert Stewart has been giving evidence for seven days.

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Many more days of tough questions could well lie ahead. Still to

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come: Why women are more likely here to split with their partner

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over fertility problems than anywhere else in the UK. And the

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Corraine brothers hoping to win A draft report from that Stormont

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spending watchdog will slate �120 million grant scheme for farmers.

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The report will ask if the scheme, funded by the taxpayer, was even

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necessary in the first place. Kevin Magee reports.

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This is what one European directive aims to prevent. Poor water quality

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caused by chemicals called nitrates washing into our water courses. The

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chemicals are contained in slurry, a by-product of dairy farming. To

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prevent being fined under EU law, the Department of Agriculture here

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gave 4,000 farmers a total of �121 million in grants to build slurry

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tanks, like this one on a farm outside Ballywalter in County Down.

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The purpose of it is to give meet increased storage and that is a

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requirement under a directive coming out of Brussels. There is no

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spreading now undisclosed period during the winter. Yes, this helps

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the environment, because we're slurry is spread during the growing

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season. Therefore there is no leaching. But will investigation by

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the storm and spending watchdog, the Public Accounts Committee, has

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heavily criticised the scheme. In a draft report, it says it was poorly

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planned and badly managed and says it was not designed to minimise

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cost to taxpayers. Uncertainties, delays and revisions hampered the

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programme. The draft report also says there are fundamental

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uncertainties over the extent to which the scheme is contributing

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towards the improvement of water quality in Northern Ireland. And on

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that basis it concludes, it did not provide good value for money. But

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many of those who benefited from the farm nutrients scheme say it is

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too soon to measure its success. is too early to get the full impact

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of what this scheme has and will achieve. I know that on my own farm

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nitrate levels in the soils and phosphate levels and the sales are

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dropping quite substantially. PAC says it is extremely

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disappointed that the draft report was leaked. The final version is

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expected in the next three weeks. Good news in Enniskillen. It is to

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get a new �12 million road scheme. The Regional Development Minister

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Danny Kennedy announced today that work on the Cherrymount Link Road

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will begin later this month. It is expected to be completed early in

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2013. It has been in the planning quite a number of years. We are

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very pleased we about the stage. I think it holds out a very good

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prospect for the travellers in this area, particularly in and around

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Enniskillen and County Fermanagh. Women in Northern Ireland are more

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likely to split up with their partner due to the stress of

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fertility problems than women in other parts of the UK. That is one

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of the findings in a recent survey by. It says that 20% of women here

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are stated that their relationship nearly ended because of infertility.

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With me in a studio for tonight's Family Focus is a Sharon Davidson

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from Infertility Network UK. Welcome to the programme. You are

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no stranger to the stress of infertility. Indeed, you tried for

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five years and you were on what you call the infertility roller-coaster.

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Yes, it is in roller-coaster ride, when you go through fertility

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treatment. We waited five years for our precious son to be born and

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went through numerous treatments cycles to get him. I have

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personally experienced the stress of infertility. It cannot be

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underestimated. The findings do not surprise me at all. Infertility is

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a devastating condition. It is very much a roller-coaster ride and when

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the treatment does not work for a couple, only one in four treatments

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are successful, I mean it is devastating for the couple and for

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them to pick up the pieces again and try again is very difficult.

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For couples in Northern Ireland there is this postcode lottery as

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well. Does that had to the stress? Tell us about the situation. Very

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much so. In Northern Ireland, if we compare ourselves to other parts of

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the UK, just across the water in Scotland, couples can get three

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treatment cycles, eligible couples, that is, in Northern Ireland treat

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couples only receive one fresh treatment cycle. What that means is

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that if the couple go through, especially a young couple, if they

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go through fertility treatment and get a number of embryos and those

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embryos are good enough to freeze, then should that couple experience

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-- experienced that particular treatment cycle being a MUC

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successful, they can try again with the frozen embryos, but in Northern

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Ireland we only get a fresh cycle funded and the couple would have to

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find �1,000 for the transfer of any frozen embryos. The constraints on

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health budgets. Do people take IVF seriously? Do they see it as a

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need? Infertility is a disease of the reproductive system and

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basically it should be treated as such. It should be treated as an

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illness and the NHS is there for clinical need, not based on your

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ability to pay for treatment. A cycle of infertility treatment, of

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IVF treatment, is �4,000 and in the current economic climate couples

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can just not up for that kind of money and they are basically having

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to go through treatment and suffer the effects of if it doesn't work

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and suffer in silence because sometimes their immediate family

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don't even know what they're going through.

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Con appellations, I know you have won an award in London for your

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campaigning on behalf of couples going through infertility --

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congratulations. Thank you for joining us.

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It you have any comments on this issue you can go to our Facebook

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Two of Northern Ireland's bigger than big hope for some edifying

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visit back home today. Here is Stephen Watson.

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Coleraine rowers Richard and Peter Chambers spent most of their time

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in England training for the 20 told London Games. Fresh from winning

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medals at the World Championships in Slovenia this month their

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thoughts are now turning to the Olympics, where the brothers could

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role in the same boat. Nikki Gregg caught up with them today.

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It is a familiar routine for the chambers brothers. Back home after

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a long and successful season they could not resist getting out on the

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Bann together where it all started. We have been doing different things,

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talking to the young kids, getting photographs with them. It is nice

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to be back, doing coaching as well. We travel quite a lot together now

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and be in at each other's company. Whether that is a good thing or a

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bad thing. The two have been sharing the spotlight. By Richard

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took bronze with Great Britain's lightweight four CRU at the World

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Championships, p to one gold and the pair, to add to his world and

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23 title. He is in no doubt about his highlight of the year, teaming

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up with Richard at the World Cup in Lucerne. That was probably my most

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favourite race of the season. Even though the under 23 some seniors as

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well, that was special. I was hugging Peter too tightly at the

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end, he said, I can't breathe! It was an amazing, amazing experience.

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Hopefully one we can repeat over the next couple of years. If all

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goes to plan they may be racing together that the London Olympics.

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There are currently six oarsmen competing for a spot in the

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lightweight four boat next summer. The coming months will determine

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who fills the seeds. Their achievements come as no surprise to

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those who have watched them develop. What the main thing that sets them

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apart is toughness. They are two to floods. They will race until the

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last stroke. -- they are two tough lads. Competitive, yet sporting.

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Double gold would be nice. Paul Cutler has turned professional and

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will make his debut in next week's Austrian Open. He was the top

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scorer in victory over the USA last week. Cutler will be back in

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Scotland at the Dunhill Links Championship as he attempts to

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secured his Tour card. Shamrock Rovers managed by Jim

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Magilton are playing their first game in the Europa League. The are

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at home to Reuben Kazaa of Russia. At half-time it is one-nil. The

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Russians missed the opportunity to make it two, missing from the

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penalty spot. Not quite going the way of Rovers.

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They stand to make several million Euros on that European odyssey. But

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money for the upgrade of Derry City's ground the Brandywell is

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several years away. The fans are angry that facilities are not being

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upgraded and the club has promised to hold a meeting to discuss the

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way forward. Kieron Tourish reports with the help of her BBC colleague

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from yesteryear. A visit to Derry would not be complete without the

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lookout Brandywell, the much publicised, cut -- often

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controversial home of Derry City Football Club.

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More than 40 years on at this famous old stadium is still proving

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controversial. Many fans are left wondering if there will ever be an

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odd -- and upgraded facilities. Over the years as dander was built

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on one side of the ground but on the other it is a case of time

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standing still. These are the open- air toilets and the fans have had

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enough. This is Third World stuff here. Any visitors coming here

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asking to go to the toilet, I'm embarrassed. It is quite awful.

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will not put me off going to Brandywell but it is a disgrace,

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what we have to put up with here. While the government says funding

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will not be available until 2015, the club says it has realistic

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expectations. We're not looking for the Rolls-Royce of the stadiums, we

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are looking for an adequate, clean professional stadium. It will

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attract fans. One former terrace hero says it makes sense to invest

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for a new generation. It is dreadful, unfortunate because if

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you had a decent stadium and good facilities, there would be more

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people coming to watch games. the arguments continue over funding

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there is no doubt about the team's superb performance on the field,

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top of the lead and then been in 16 games. And a League Cup final to

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look forward to. And from me on the somewhat chilly slopes of

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Brandywell... Yes, you have guessed it, 40 years on and the slopes is

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still very much evident in Brandywell in 2011. And in case you

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are wondering it is still a bit chilly! Back now to the warmth of

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the BBC Newsline studio. Tomorrow, we will look ahead to

:25:29.:25:32.

their top-of-the-table Irish League clash.

:25:32.:25:36.

It has been feeling a little chilly, but as we head towards the weekend

:25:36.:25:43.

let's been finding out -- let's There is more what, breezy weather.

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If you did not get your grass cut, not many opportunities. It is

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looking more unsettled. Today, the best day of the next few. Not

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exactly the sunniest. We had a decay in weather front over the top

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of us, responsible for the cloud. Along parts of the East Coast it

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was fairly bright for a time. The lough was looking lovely with the

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summer blooms. The park looked inviting. I don't think it will be

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the case for the next few days. It is still dry. A few bright spells

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across South Down and parts of Armagh but they will fill in again.

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The crowd will gather during the course of the night and the wet

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weather will follow -- cloud. Many parts turning damper. A bit of a

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breeze picking up from the south- east. It is mild, temperatures no

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lower than 11 or 12 Celsius. Not long before the wet, breezy weather

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tracks across all parts tomorrow morning, so something to bear in

:26:43.:26:46.

mind for the morning rush-hour. A lot of surface water and sprain

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places and reduced visibility slowing journeys down. Fairly heavy,

:26:51.:26:55.

persistent spells of rain and an increasing breeze by all parts of

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the rush-hour. Once it gets to the east it could take until early

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afternoon before it clears out of the weight and we could see some

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thundery bursts across parts of down and Antrim in particular. It

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should not last all day. Drier conditions follow from the West End

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should get across to the east and the afternoon. A few rays of

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sunshine. Even then, few sharp showers. It will feel warm, 15

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Celsius. Tomorrow evening and tomorrow night, the breeze starts

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to swing to the West. More showers, more frequent across northern and

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western areas. They will reach the south-east. Dusty winds on Saturday,

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heavy, thundery showers but they will move in the breeze -- Dusty.

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The top story tonight, the Ulster Unionist Tom Elliot has told

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