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Good evening. The headlines on BBC Newsline: Five patients may have

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died in the Royal due to staff shortages.

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The Belfast Trust's medical director is here in the studio.

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How safe is your child when they're on the internet?

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We hear one mother's story. I then realised this was something very

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serious and very worrying. I remember sitting thinking, I am

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going to be sick, I could have lost my daughter.

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The growing problem of the fatbergs that are clogging up the sewers.

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Also coming up: Hi, I am Paul Mike ael Glaser, you probably know me, if

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you can see me without the beard as Starsky.

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Snow has arrived in many areas tonight. I will be back with the

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latest details. The Health Minister says he didn't

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know until today that delays might have been a contributory factor in

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the deaths of five patients at our biggest hospital casualty

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department. In medical terms the circumstances surrounding these

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deaths are referred to as Serious Adverse Incidents. These don't

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always involve death but in this instance the Minister's comments

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follow a BBC Spotlight investigation into conditions in the emergency

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department at the Royal Victoria Hospital. In a moment, we'll hear

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from the Belfast Health Trust's medical director. First Declan Lawn

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charts what Spotlight has found. Last month's major incident at the

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Royal Victoria Hospital's emergency department has been the cat alist

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for a number of startling revelations -- catalyst. At the

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time, the health Minister was keen to point out that it had been an

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unusual and unpredictable event that didn't point to a system that was in

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crisis. Well tlas 100 people in and 42 on trolleys. The response was to

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get more staff there to deal with the backlog. It was dealt with. We

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had an unusual spike. An unreasonable spike in the numbers

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that were coming through. But BBC Northern Ireland Spotlight's

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programme has been speaking to doctors and nurses working in the

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emergency department of the Royal Victoria Hospital who say that the

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system is at breaking point. The medical staff we spoke to didn't

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want to appear on camera but we have been shown e-mails from a range of

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senior doctors to managers at the Belfast Trust. These e-mails date

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back several months and they specifically point out how

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understaffing and excessive trolley waits have been, at times,

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compromising the safety of patients. The emergency department consultants

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have also issued a statement to Spotlight in which they point out

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they've been repeatedly raising concerns about patients' safety and

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dignity at the highest levels of the Belfast Trust. Spotlight can also

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reveal disturbing new evidence that patients have been affected. This

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internal document describes how two patients died in serious adverse

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incidents where one of the significant contributory factors was

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how long they had to wait for treatment. Yesterday the chief

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executive of the Belfast Trust admitted to us that there were more.

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How many more serious adverse incidents have there been where

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people have waited too long? Well, it's difficult, but it would be

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single figures. Would it be - we have been told it could be nine?

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It's not as high as nine, no. I think at this point it's about four.

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But I don't have those figures in front of me. How long in the last

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six months, the last year? That would be over the last couple of

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years. That's in the context that over that period of time we would

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have had about 160,000 attendances. Today, however, the Belfast Trust

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amembereded that number, stating that there have been five deaths in

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case where is waiting times has been one of the factors in the last year

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alone. -- amended. The doctors and nurses we spoke to stressed that

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most of the time the emergency department of the Royal Victoria

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Hospital is safe, but that during out-of-hours periods and at weekends

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that is not always the case. What they want now is urgent action.

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The man in charge of the medical staff at A at the Royal is Dr

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Toney Stevens. Let's clarify the confusion here. How many people have

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died in the past year with a waiting times may have been a contributory

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factor? In the last year we have identified five cases where a

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factor, only one factor, may have been a length of time people waited.

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It's a contributory factor which indicates there was a system

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failure. How recent were those deaths? They were spread out

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throughout last year. 2013. Would they have been after August last

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year? Would any of those deaths have been after that month? I think two

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were after August. Could those two deaths have been avoided because in

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August the Trust was given a report by the College of Emergency Medicine

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which was very worried about safety. It said the system wasn't working.

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It put forward ten priorities to be addressed to resolve the crisis. If

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it was a contributory factor in two deaths could those lives have been

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saved? I think the first thing to say is that irrespective of the

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college report we are not saying those lives would definitely have

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been saved if patients had been seen more quickly. But let me pick up...

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But it was a contributory factor so it indicates it may have been the

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case and does indicate a system's failure. I accept that. We have

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taken it very seriously. One of the reasons we know about this is

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because the Belfast Trust now reviews all deaths in its hospital

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and including the emergency department. Whether a person comes

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in and is expected to die, or whether it's an unexpected death we

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review that to see if there is any learning. This isn't evidence of -

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picking up on the college report which is an important report to us,

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there were a number of actions recommended, the most important of

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which was an expansion of the medical staff. They recommend that

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we appoint I think 11 additional consultants between the Royal and

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the Mater. We have already moved to do that. Moved to do that? How many

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recommendations have been implemented to solve this crisis? A

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number of them have been. What's a number? One, two? Four, five?

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They're all in train along with a lot of other recommendations. The

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important thing in this report, the absolutely important thing was the

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number of medical staff that we have. Now we recruited six

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consultants at the beginning of this week. We hope they'll all take up

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the posts. That's a move towards the 11 we need. These people are not

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readily available. Either in Northern Ireland or the UK. Sorry to

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interrupt, we are short of time. Consultants have told the BBC, I

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have a press release from consultants at the Royal, that at

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times, especially at out-of-hours and at weekends, it's not safe for

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patients at the A at the Royal. Do you believe that? It's not safe at

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times? Nor do I believe they said that. Are they making that up? At

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times, they didn't say out-of-hours it was unsafe. Let's face it, if I

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am going to the accident and emergency department at all times I

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want it to be safe. Well, I believe it is safe. We come under pressure

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at key moments and at those times there is some increase in risk and

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we have identified that. The fact that we have reviewed these cases

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has helped to identify and confirm what the college is already saying

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and we are working to fix that. The public have - it's really important

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the public have confidence in the Royal's emergency department. I

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agree. How can you allay fears that more people will not die because of

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contributory factors relating to waiting times? How is the Belfast

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Trust performing over all? When you compare its performance with other

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Trusts in the UK... We are looking at accident and emergency, not the

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Trust in total. That fits in with our totality of mortality, the

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number of people who die in our hospitals and the Trust performs

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very well. We tend to take longer to see patients than they do in

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England, but actually the outcomes for the vast majority of patients

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are as good if not better. How much of this do you take on board as your

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personal responsibility that the system is not working? It's a

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failure on your part? It's a fail failure for every patient. You are

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the medical director. I take my responsibilities seriously as do all

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the other directors in the Trust and we are held to account by our board

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of directors and by the public health agency and the health and

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social care board. We are very clear about our accountabilities and we

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are working hard to improve things. We are working very hard with these

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consultants to deliver the service. I was working side by side with them

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last week during the incident at the Odyssey when we did a fantastic job.

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We recognise challenges and we are working hard with our colleagues to

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make things better. Thank you for joining us on BBC Newsline.

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You can see that Spotlight programme at 10. 40pm tonight after our late

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Newsline. The mother of a teenage girl who was

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groomed by someone on the internet says she felt sick to the stomach

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when she found out. A survey published today shows only half of

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parents have safety settings on their children's computers and

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tablets. BBC Newsline's Tara Mills reports.

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Stranger danger used to be something parents had to warn children about

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when they went outside. These days that danger is much more likely to

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be in their hand, and with access to the internet 24/7 some parents say

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they're finding the whole thing pretty hard to deal with.

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Parents like Samantha Shaw. She was shocked when she realised her

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daughter was being groomed online. I then realised this was something

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very serious and worrying. I remember thinking, I am going to be

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sick. Coy have lost my daughter. Her -- I could have lost my daughter.

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Her daughter didn't want to appear on camera but said the man wanted to

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meet up. I added him on Facebook. He asked us to put up photos and meet

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up, pup we didn't meet up with him -- but we didn't meet up with him.

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My mum got involved. I think it was somebody random trying to contact

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girls our age and meet with them. I was afraid about it because I

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wouldn't like a man trying to stalk my profile or anything. I was

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afraid. It's something the police are taking seriously too. Coleraine

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High is one of the first schools to see a new campaign highlighting the

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dangers. We look at sexting in the first instance and issues around

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that and legislation around that and how important it is for the kids to

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actually know that it's illegal. Fundamentally it's the possession

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and distribution of indecent images of children which few of them

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actually know. The students realise they are at risk. At this aiming --

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age we are vulnerable to this. I know many friends who have been

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targeted and it's not very nice and sometimes I feel that we haven't got

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a very good education towards it so it's been very good to get this

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presentation so we can learn more about this issue. Despite repeated

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campaigns and warnings, experts say children don't have the emotional

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maturity to realise the dangers involved. Samantha Shaw says she's

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now watching her daughters like a hawk. I know it's a bit of, you

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know, I am going to stalk my children on Facebook! But to me it

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makes me go to bed with peace of mind knowing they're not active at a

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certain time of night because they know mummy is still watching. But

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those are measures I have to take. Today's survey shows half of all

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parents here have no safety settings on their children's computers and

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the majority admitted their children know more about technology than they

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do. If that's something you are

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concerned about, the BBC has some tips on its website.

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Next we have another twist in the dispute between the Justice Minister

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and the Policing Board over the way the next Chief Constable is to be

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appointed. Board members have now been asked to provide their legal

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reasons for rejecting the Minister's proposal. David Ford wants to remove

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a rule stating applicants must have served at the rank of Assistant

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Chief Constable or above for at least two years outside Northern

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Ireland. Our home affairs correspondent Vincent Kearney

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reports. The Policing Board appoints and

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holds the chief executive to account. The rules to be used to

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appoint the next person to hold the post are the subject of a tussle

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between the board and the first and Deputy First Ministers on one side

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and David Ford on the other. Members of the board last week shoet voted

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to reject the -- last week voted to reject the Justice Minister's rules.

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That flew in the face of legal advice from the board's chief

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executive. In a paper to board members he pointed out that similar

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two-year rules have been dropped by other police forces in England,

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Scotland and Wales. He said senior PSNI officers who

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wanted to apply for the chief executive's position would be

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uniquely disadvantaged if the two-year rule is retained. He said

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his advice was of such a position would be indefensible.

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The day after the board's decision, David Ford wrote to it asking

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members to justify their actions. He attached core respondence to his

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department from the equality commission which said the two-year

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rule may be indirectly discriminatory unless it could be

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objectively justified as an essential requirement for the post.

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The chairman has written to individual members asking them to

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justify their decision. That means they're being asked to spell out the

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reasoning in detail and not simply say they don't want change. The

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deadline for responses was lunchtime today. David Ford will bring his

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proposed rule change to the executive on Thursday having been

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told that the first and Deputy First Ministers will have the final say.

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The Ministers and their legal advisers will want to closely study

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the response from the Policing Board.

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A bomb has been found during an alert in Craigavon. The device was

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in the Carrigart Manor area this morning and was made safe by the

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army. The police have condemned those responsible saying they have

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little regard for human life. The local economy has been through

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tough times during the past few years. But new figures suggest

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Northern Ireland was the UK region hardest hit in the recession. With

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the details, our economics and business editor John Campbell.

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Linda Smith has a typical recession story. She lost her job in retail,

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found it hard to get new work and is now retraining. That experience has

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meant some big changes in lifestyle. It's difficult, obviously I have

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been working in full-time work for over ten years and now I am back at

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home and live living on benefits and it's difficult. It's hard as well

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with the negative press. You see a lot of these programmes where people

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on benefits and we are not all like that. Like some of us are really

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looking hard to find work. Linda is not alone. Research by a think tank,

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The Resolution Foundation, compared economic output per person in each

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part of the UK. The measurement is known as GVA per

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head. It allows for a rough comparison of living standards

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across different regions. At the start of the recession in 2008, here

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it was just under ?18,000. Five years later, it had slipped to

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just over ?16,000. That's a 10% fall. In the UK as a

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whole, the drop was closer to 6%. In the prosperous south-east of

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England, the fall was just 3. 3%. How come things got so bad here?

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Obviously we experienced our fair share of the UK recession but allied

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to that we had a housing boom, more like that in the Republic of Ireland

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and also Northern Ireland has experienced austerity measures from

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the UK disproportionately compared to other UK regions. There are still

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signs of recession around us, like boarded up shops or repossessed

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building sites. The economy is recovering but today's figures

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remind us just how much damage was done in the recession, damage which

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we still -- which will still take years to repair.

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While the economy fights back, there is perhaps an even greater battle

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going on in the sewers that run beneath us. Huge blobs of congealed

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fat and waste called fatbergs are clogging up the drains. They can

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cause flooding. Some are so difficult to remove the roads have

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to be dug up to deal with them. As Helen Jones reports, millions of

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pounds are being paid out to combat this growing problem. I have to warn

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you that if you're of a delicate disposition or eating your dinner

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right now, you may want to look away.

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Deep under the feet of the people in Newtownards something is stirring. A

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monster is growing. It was pretty pungent, I have to say. The gag

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value was about ten. If it's not taken out, the fatberg will cause a

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right stink. Not to mention flooding. Here's one, a 15 ton solid

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lump of congealed fat and waste such as wet wipes. The size of a double

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decker bus in the sewers of London. Northern Ireland's full of them.

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With 9,000 miles of sewers, NI Water has a battle on its hands What we

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see in this one man-hole, all the sewers in this street are basically

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going to be the same. We are going to have to put in a big exercise to

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clean this all out and get this restored back to an operation again.

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This operation isn't a one-off. It happens every day somewhere in

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Northern Ireland. Here's a man relieved to get this particular

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fatberg out of his system. The toilet area has been - gassy smells

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coming up through the drains and it's not really acceptable for

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anybody in the health profession. It's a dangerous job but someone's

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got to do it. What happened? You were down the

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hole and then you came up quickly. The gas monitor went off showing

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levels that it's not right for anybody being there. Just get out.

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You see that smell, it's putrid. Do you like doing this? You get immune

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to it, does you no harm. Probably got the best um immune system of

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anybody -- immune system. They're The Dirty Dozen, things you should

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not put down your loo. Nappies, other bits and pieces, cotton buds.

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It's like Supermarket Sweep. Face wipes will clog it up. Cotton buds.

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And even razor Blades. The advice is to think twice before

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you pour grease down the sink or flush those dirty dozen down the

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loo. Some news just in: The Education and

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skills Authority - EESA - moved a step closer today with the

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announcement of backing from grammar schools. EESA has been blocked by

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politicians for seven years and one reason has been the opposition of

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grammar schools. Now the Governing Bodies Association, which represents

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52 voluntary grammar schools, says it no longer has any objections and

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has called for the umbrella body for education to be formally created as

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soon as possible. He's best known for leaping into his

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Gran Torino car in the 1970s cop show Starsky and Hutch. Now, at 70

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years of age, Paul Michael Glaser is dancing and singing in a gruelling

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run of a musical show. Our arts correspondent Maggie Taggart has

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this exclusive television interview for BBC Newswline.

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Paul Michael Glaser has lived his life, triumphs and tragedy in the

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spotlight. His most famous role was 40 years ago in a TV series Starsky

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and Hutch alongside David Soul. People seemed to really appreciate

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Starsky or what I did on that show. So, that's a nice thing to whatever

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extent I can help people's lives, give them a little joy. Now he is

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touring the UK as the lead in the musical Fiddler on The Roof. When it

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was offered to me I didn't know how well I could do it. I knew I wanted

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to try. So... Now you are singing and dancing. Singing and dancing and

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having a good time. His CV covers many film and television roles but

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he has a strong link to Fiddler. He played a different role as a tutor.

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He is a writer, director, author, artist and a campaigner for Aids

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research and treatment following the death of his first wife Elizabeth

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and his daughter. Elizabeth contracted Aids from a blood

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transfusion and it was then passed on to her two babies. It was a hell

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of a thing to find one self's dealing with in the public eye on

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one hand, and on the other hand, to the extent that Elizabeth needed to

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and wanted to accomplish the things that she accomplished. The show is

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completely booked out all week and with seven performances it doesn't

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need much time -- leave much time for sight-seeing. The most I get to

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do is look at the beautiful Irish women. As I am right now. Oh, you

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have made my day! You are sweet. He will have to come back and see

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around the place! Ulster's rugby players are flying

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high in the league and the cup but now the future of both competitions

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is in doubt. Stephen Watson is here. We've been hearing consistently

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about the uncertain future of the European Heineken Cup because of a

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dispute between the clubs, the organisers, and the governing

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bodies. But now it's the Pro 12 league which is also in doubt.

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Italian club Treviso have said they are they pulling out of the

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competition from the start of next season. The four Welsh clubs are

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also undecided whether they will continue to take part. Thomas Kane

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reports. 12 has become 11, and may yet be

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made up of ten should Italy's involvement in the league end. A

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statement on Treviso's website said: They cite indecision over the

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organisation, participation and regulations of the Pro 12 as their

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main reason for leaving. The organisers of the Pro 12 have

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refused to comment on the statement but it's understood they're

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continuing to speak to the sports governing body in Italy. It seems,

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though, that the biggest threat to the league's future lies a lot

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closer to home. The club game in Wales could hardly be more different

:23:50.:23:53.

than the model here. Three of Ireland's four provinces are amongst

:23:54.:23:57.

Europe's top eight sides and are battling it out for top spot in the

:23:58.:24:02.

current Pro 12. While disagreements over player contracts, funding and

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the potential Anglo Welsh league breakaway have left the domestic

:24:08.:24:11.

game in Wales in total turmoil. So much so, that it led to a Question

:24:12.:24:16.

Time-style debate broadcast last month. I think the understanding we

:24:17.:24:21.

have with the English clubs is quite solid. Whilst not underestimating

:24:22.:24:27.

the enormous hurdles in the way of that happening. The cross-border,

:24:28.:24:35.

etc. What other option do we have playing in this, all respects, much

:24:36.:24:41.

reduced European competition, and the Rabo, it's not going to be,

:24:42.:24:46.

don't have a sponsor, the Italians claimed they were pulling out, so

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what competition do we have? Is your preferred option to stay in Wales? I

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would love to see a solution sorted. It does become difficult from a

:24:56.:25:01.

planning point of view. Obviously, from recruitment, as well. To bring

:25:02.:25:07.

players in and go - we don't know what competition we are playing in.

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Ulster's next two games are against The Scarlets and Treviso twoshgs

:25:13.:25:17.

fixtures that might not -- two fixtures that might not be taking as

:25:18.:25:20.

frequently next season. That's a story that will run.

:25:21.:25:26.

Now to a story that we had hoped to bring you, but we are running out of

:25:27.:25:29.

time. Tomorrow we will hear from a local swim swimmer who is training

:25:30.:25:34.

in Texas in preparation for the Commonwealth Games later this year.

:25:35.:25:38.

The weather has got to be better in Texas than here. Guess what,

:25:39.:25:45.

tonight's local football game with Warrenpoint and Glenavon is off.

:25:46.:25:55.

There's one game this evening. Ballinamallard take on Crusaders.

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Some of our pictures, snow has been falling this afternoon. These are

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our latest pictures from the Glennshame Pass in the last hour or

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so, tricky conditions for any drivers out there this evening --

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Glenshane. The latest forecast is snow.

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Yeah, snow is moving south and east. It won't be as heavy as in other

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places earlier today. There is a snow warning in force at the moment.

:26:31.:26:34.

Twitter has been going mad the last couple of hours, we have loads of

:26:35.:26:36.

pictures if you want to see them. There is even a picture of two

:26:37.:26:44.

snowmen. There is enough snow in places to make things very

:26:45.:26:47.

difficult. Several centimetres on the hills by the end of the night.

:26:48.:26:53.

Icy in many places, too. Roads do bear that in mind -- do bear that in

:26:54.:26:59.

mind. It will be nasty on the roads, particularly this side of midnight.

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By the end of the night a lot of the snow showers will have eased.

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Temperatures will be subzero. Tomorrow we are starting cold with

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frost and ice. Then we are waiting object the next area of wet and

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windy -- on the next area of wet and windy weather. During the rush hour

:27:16.:27:21.

the next area of rain and snow will move northwards and eastwards across

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many parts of Northern Ireland. Temperatures will below. It's likely

:27:25.:27:29.

to be icy in many places. Again, some tricky travelling weather

:27:30.:27:33.

through the rush hour tomorrow. The snow initially will befalling over

:27:34.:27:36.

the hills. It could get down to lower levels for a time. Then it

:27:37.:27:39.

retreats northwards by the end of the morning. Also strong winds to

:27:40.:27:43.

come tomorrow, especially in eastern counties. Winds could gust in excess

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of 60mph. A lot going on in the forecast tomorrow. Stay tuned

:27:49.:27:52.

through BBC breakfast. During the later part of the day the rain will

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turn back to sleet and snow in places, so again we could have snow

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in some areas tomorrow evening through the rush hour. A lot going

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on tomorrow. Snow, ice, heavy rain and strong winds. A quieter day to

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come on Thursday with things becoming dryer before we head to

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Valentine's Day on Friday. That was BBC Newsline. Bye.

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