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The headlines this evening: A would-be suicide bomber from

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Gloucester is freed from prison. Saajid Badat planned to blow up an

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aeroplane, now it's emerged he's done a deal to have his sentence

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cut. The man who saw through the biggest

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cuts in decades steps down as leader of Somerset Council.

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Also tonight: Face to face - the Wiltshire man who wants a doctor to

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end his life and the law lord who won't let him. There has to be a

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line somewhere, and we believe that the line should be between you

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taking your own life and that somebody killing you. We do not

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think, that should be .(TRM), And from the very highs to the

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lowest lows, how our trainers respond to the Grand National

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Good Evening. A man from Gloucester, who was jailed for plotting to blow

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up an aeroplane, has been a free man for the last two years. Saajid

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Badat was sentenced to 13 years in prison in 2005, but today it was

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revealed that he did a deal with the authorities that saw his

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sentence cut and his early release It is November 27th, at 2003. The

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heart of Gloucester's Muslim community. It has been raided by

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the anti-terrorism squad. People cannot believe that Saajid Badat,

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educated in a respected grammar school, could be mixed up with Al-

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Qaeda. But he had a dark secret life. He had dropped out of

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university. He had started in Pakistan and Afghanistan, where he

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came under influence of terrorists. In 2001, he was in training camps

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in Afghanistan. We know he was given explosives, and that his task

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was to bring down an aircraft between Europe and the United

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States. After the terror attacks in 2001, he returned to Britain after

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lying to get the passport. Inside his she was a bomb. He had tickets

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booked to fly from Manchester to Amsterdam. His planned to detonate

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the bomb on a flight on the US, killing himself and all those on

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board. But on December 17th, he pulled out of the plot. His co-

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conspirator it was overpowered by terrified passengers as he

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attempted to blow himself up using an identical device. But Saajid

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Badat was tracked down and arrested in Gloucester. He pleaded guilty to

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conspiracy to block an airliner, and jailed for 13 years. He was

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given credit for his guilty plea and the turning his back on

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terrorism. Steve is with us now. What has happened here? The bottom

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line is that Saajid Badat had become the first convicted

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terrorist to do a deal with the British. He has traded in his

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knowledge of a terrorist network in return for a reduction in his

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sentence. The Crown Prosecution Service said he spoke freely, but

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they are saying the decision was not taken lightly. This said it was

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taken in the interests of international justice. What has he

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told the security services? He has been speaking to Scotland Yard and

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the FBI, while imprisoned in the UK. The information has been described

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as overwhelmingly important. He is in the United States this week,

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where he is appearing as a prosecution witness in the trial of

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an Al-Qaeda opera to have accused of blowing up the New York subway.

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What about his future? We were not be seeing him in Gloucester. There

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has been a news blackout since 2009 on this. The security services will

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give him a new identity, and keep an important intelligent asset

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alive. The celebrations continued all

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weekend in the Somerset village of Ditcheat. Neptune Collenges,

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trained by Paul Nicholls, had won the Grand National, the only major

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prize in the sport to have eluded him. But North of Cheltenham, the

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stables of rival trainer Jonjo O'Neill have been in mourning after

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Gold Cup winner Synchronised was put down after falling in

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Saturday's race. His death and that of another horse has prompted

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another review of safety and calls from some for the race to be

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radically altered. Well, David Passmore is at the stable of

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triumphant trainer Paul Nicholls and joins us now. So many great

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horses have been trained here. But now, the name of Neptune Collenges

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can be added to that list. He has given Paul Nicholls the one Trophy

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missing from his cabinet. Many congratulations. What does it mean?

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It is fantastic. It is the people's race. It is the world's greatest

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steeplechase. This horse is brilliant. Did you think he had it

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in him? He had a lot of class. He showed his class, came through on

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the day. He ran very well in the trial. With our record, we did not

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believe it, but he ran a big race. Sadness and disappointment as well.

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Synchronised, one of two horses, had to be put down after Saturday's

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race. This was Synchronised a month ago.

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But today, the stables and trainer were still too upset to speak about

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the loss of a horse in Saturday's's Grand National. Synchronised was

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amongst the favourites, but had looked jittery before the race. He

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unseated his jockey. And then, he jumped at the sixth fence, and

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stumbled and fell. And Synchronised is down. This year's race was the

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first to be run since a safety review, leading to changes to

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fences. But the RSPCA is still urging for further action. Live has

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risk, but human beings take whether -- choose whether to take that risk.

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Animals do not have a risk. Let us cut the number of horses in the

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Grand National, and letters but horse safety first and foremost.

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The death of two horses overshadowed one of the greatest

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pinnaces the National has ever seen. When Neptune Collenges was finally

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confirmed as the winner, there was no hiding Paul Nicholls's delight

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in securing his first Grand National title. In the 2012 Grand

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National... But as the walls's name was being added to the winner's

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board, questions being asked about the fatalities.

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You have been vocal about the criticism of the race. What are

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your views this evening? I was not intending to be vocal. In a lot of

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ways, I feel it is sad he won a wonderful race, and we come back

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here looking forward to good headlines, and yet they are on

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headlines. You sometimes pop -- wonder if it was all worth it.

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Awfully sad they lost Synchronised. In any race, there is a risk.

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Everybody watches, but sit and follows it, and knows there is a

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risk. No matter how hard we try to make things safer, it is the fact

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of life. Has there been an over- reaction? It always is, every year.

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The media build that up. When something goes wrong, or they want

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to do is laggard of. It is over- reacting. The RSPCA are concerned,

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and quite right as well. But you have got to take a balanced view on

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everything. Congratulations. Another trophy to the Paul Nicholls

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trophy cabinet. It's official - we're in drought.

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Last month, parts of Gloucestershire and Wiltshire had

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water restrictions imposed, but now the rest of the West is affected

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too. Unless you're a Thames Water customer, though, you won't have a

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hosepipe ban. Instead, what's been declared is an environmental

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drought. Sarah-Jane Bungay reports on the effect that's having on the

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West's landscape and wildlife. These wetlands are not as soggy as

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the birds hoping to feed and breed here would like. It isn't

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internationally important habitat for wading birds, and there is

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water on the reserve but not enough. This is how the area should look.

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Probably a third of the reserve, we will not keep as wet as we would

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like. We have got areas where we can actually pump water to

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artificially maintain the levels there. This is a second year we

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have had to embark on those measures,. It is a prime breeding

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time for lapwings and redshanks. the moment, it is just one solitary

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male. This river is getting a helping hand. Wessex Water are

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topping up the levels and easing conditions for fish and wildlife.

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Pumping water and bringing it to the surface and putting it into the

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river, and make sure we are supporting it the wildlife in the

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river, and supporting agriculture. To me, the water levels looks like

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it is associated with high supper - - high-summer, for example July or

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August. But here we are, in the middle of April. Somerset wildlife

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enthusiast and TV presenter, Michael, is doing his bit to

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conserve water. He is painting a more positive picture of how what

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level cope. Wildlife has been coping with their excessive rain,

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droughts, it for centuries, millennia. It will always bounce

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back. Long-term, it does not have any effect whatsoever. It is a fine

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balance, meeting the water needs of people, agriculture, the

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environment and businesses. And especially challenging when the

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valuable commodity everyone needs is the one in short supply.

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We will find out if there is rain on the way it

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This is Monday's Points West with Alex and Will. It's good to have

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you with us. Coming up in tonight's programme:

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From battlefield to hospital ward - we meet the nurse who splits her

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time between Afghanistan and Swindon.

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And the young man who took this double decker bus on a joyride

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A man's been charged in connection with four knifepoint robberies in

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Wiltshire. Two garages, one in Swindon and one in Royal Wootton

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Bassett, were targeted two weeks ago. Then, over the Easter weekend,

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staff at two shops in Swindon were threatened. 18-year-old Joseph

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Kingsley appeared in court today charged in connection with the

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incidents. As part of their enquiries, the police have also

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released an image of three men they'd like the public's help to

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identify. The leader of Somerset County

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Council has announced within the last hour that he's to leave the

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job. Conservative Ken Maddock is stepping down so he can stand for

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election as one of the country's new Police Commissioners. Well, to

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tell us more, we can go live to County Hall in Taunton and talk to

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our Somerset correspondent, Clinton Rogers. This has come as a bit of a

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surprise, hasn't it? Shock, more like. A Conservative meeting is

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just finishing here, at which he has delivered the news to his

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colleagues. He has been leading here since the Conservatives took

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control back in 2009, but today will be his last day. He has put

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his hat into the ring. He wants to be the Conservative Party candidate

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of the Police Commissioner. Earlier today, I asked him whether part of

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the reason for giving up this job is that he was finding the going a

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 40 seconds

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He did not need to resign as leader of the County Council to put his

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name forward, but told me he felt he needed to do that to give it his

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best shot. The first thing he needs to do is convince the Conservative

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Party he is their chosen candidate. He would be a pretty good favourite

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for that job. Is he the right Manfred? That is a question I put

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to one Somerset MP. An interesting choice. I had no idea. I do not

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know and love will come out on behalf of the Conservatives. I am

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sure there will be one or two independence. We will see what

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happens. Interesting choice. He has been leader of the council, and

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He soon moved on to a bigger chamber. He took charge of the

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Conservatives and of the council, and set about making the biggest

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cuts in decades. We are going to stop these cuts! He faced protest

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as he arrived for the meeting which would avoid hundreds of

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redundancies. This is completely unprecedented. Perhaps his hardest

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battle was over libraries. He was never of Brega facing his opponents.

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If you could find more efficiencies for us, that would be brilliant.

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But the courts killed off his cuts, and the revolution will be left to

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There are few people will not be sad to see him go. What is your

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view of his years? Well, privatisation, it cost millions,

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job losses which cost members and their families' income. Staff

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morale is at rock bottom. But he had to do it? Sorry, we have a

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problem with the link. I am sure we can rejoin him. We lost due for a

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moment. Sorry for a technical glitches. Sorry, we had a few

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problems. A difficult job he had to do. It is about his policies. We

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would like to see a change in direction well we can work with the

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council to improve services rather than selling them off to private

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companies for cheaper. The new man or woman will takeover, what are

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you hoping for? Constructive dialogue and better services for

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our members and the residents of Somerset. OK, thank you. The

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timescale, the Conservatives would choose the new candidate now. They

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should be in place by the middle of May.

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A Wiltshire man who is fighting for the right to be legally killed by a

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doctor says the Commission on assisted dying has let him down.

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Tony Nicklinson has locked in syndrome which means he is unable

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to move, and can only talk with the help of a special computer. Today

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he challenged the man who led the commission as the two came face to

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face in Tony's home in Melksham. Hello, I have locked-in syndrome.

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Recently I contributed to a report about assisted dying. It was

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decided terminally ill people should die with dignity but it

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cannot condone a doctor killing me. I will ask him why. Because

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allowing in any circumstances one person to kill another would be a

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massive change in the moral and practical view that the law takes

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about taking other people's lives. You can take your own life, the

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commission says you can be assisted but you should never be in a

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position where there is a lawful means of being killed by someone

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else. Do you think the law should leave me to suffer? It is not

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because of any feelings the Law Commission has towards you or

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people in your position, it is because of the ramifications. I

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understand why you take a different view but it would be too dangerous

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to allow. What you think should happen to people in my position?

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you win your legal case, and I understand you are saying to the

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courts, tell me whether or not it would be lawful in some

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circumstances for somebody to take your life. As opposed to you being

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assisted to commit suicide. It is for the courts to decide what view

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they take but my own view is if they said it would be possible for

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someone to take your life, as opposed to you committing suicide,

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there would be a step too far. satisfied Lord Falconer has

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answered my questions and we must agree to differ on the questions of

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someone killing another. He sees dangers were I do not. There are

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many grey areas which need clarification. Powerful and

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articulate as he is, I still think the line has to be drawn were you

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take your own life rather than somebody killing you. Because

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someone killing you would be allowing that to be in accordance

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with the law, it's too dangerous. This is a story we will follow on

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Points West. A young man from Wiltshire explains why he took a

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double decker bus on a joyride in a new BBC documentary tonight. Called

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"Our Crime", Sam Hobson from Amesbury is among four young

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drivers to tell his tale. The 21 year old was drunk when he stole

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the bus and it ended with serious consequences. As Ali Vowles has

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been finding out, it started as just a lark on a cold night.

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We went out and there was no one about. It was dead that night. And

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we were wandering around and it was quite cold outside. We thought we

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would sit on the bus and decide what to do. I saw the key and

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started driving. And that was the start of the 25 minute hair-raising

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ride around Amesbury in the early hours of the morning in June two

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years ago. Take this round about the wrong way round. Along with two

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teenage girls, who also took to the wheel, Sam was videoing the whole

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thing on his mobile phone. Keep going straight ahead and we were

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dumb hit. No, outside your mum's house! I said I heard a buses come

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up where we live and I hope it wasn't any of you. It was three

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people. I asked if he was our last night and he said he was in bed.

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think she knew, the way I was talking on the phone. A thing she

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knew deep down. And in fact the whole world knew when the video

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ended up on YouTube. The frightening ride ended in misery.

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Thousands of pounds worth of damage was caused to the bus and two cars.

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Luckily no one was injured. Sam was eventually sentenced to six months

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in jail. And you can see more of the stories behind the crimes

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tonight on BBC3 at 9 o clock. Lord Beaverbrook, the patron of RAF

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reservists, has told Points West the air force can't now function at

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full strength without the help of part-timers. His comments came as

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four hundred RAF reservists spent this weekend training on Salisbury

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Plain in preparation for active service on the front line. Scott

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Ellis was with them. Saving lives on the front line in

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Afghanistan. A role doctors and nurses from the NHS play a critical

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part. And it's here on Salisbury Plain where the training's done.

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Let's get you on to the bed. This is a mock-up. A chance for Cheryl

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Kesler to hone her battlefield medical skills. The day job is

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intensive care at Swindon's Great Western hospital. I wanted to take

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nursing to a different environment, my last tour in the summer, I was

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moving patients within theatre and strategic. It was a very

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challenging time. But I still loved every minute. Cheryl was among 400

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RAF reservists training in Wiltshire this weekend. The biggest

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such deployment there has ever been. A clear sign that front line

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operations now rely heavily on civilian back up. We can't afford

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the defence of this nation that we would like so we have to find ways

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of maintaining out that and reducing costs. With the reservists

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it is a key way of achieving that at that -- that aim.

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The figures bear that out. Full time RAF staff are being cut by six

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thousand. At a time when the number of reservists is due to double. No

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day off to recover for Cheryl today. She's back in Intensive care in

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Swindon. You have the challenging role of being out in the field on

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Salisbury Plain, freezing cold and he we are today. It is two

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different worlds, it is challenging in both environments, working for

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the NHS and working with the air force. The reserves is a rare

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growth area for the military. One that Cheryl's proud to be a part of.

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We will turn our attentions to the weather now. We were talking about

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drought but there is rain on the way. Yes, a fair bit although it

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will not alleviate longer term problems with the drought. Some

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useful rain. Tomorrow, sets the scene for the rest of the week.

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Only rain replaced by sunny spells. If we run through the week, low-

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pressure developing being driven on eight-strong the jet stream.

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Spilling down on Wednesday sitting over us and the wind will be slack.

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Heavy slow-moving downpours and on Thursday the low migrates. Heavy

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showers becoming a more flabby feature by the tail end of the week.

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Further showers and so through the rest of this evening the rain is

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some way off. Late evening and the outbreaks will arrive in the West

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Somerset and spreading further in. Somerset and spreading further in.

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A cold front comes in in the morning and we get heavy rainfall

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spreading further east and clearing out of Wiltshire around the start

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of the morning rush-hour. Gusts of 45 miles an hour. Temperatures

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around fibre six else's. Tomorrow morning, the raid well clear, dry

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and bright weather. The showers pack in from the West, fairly quick

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moving on the brisk flow. Some sunny spells, some showers heavy.

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In the bright spells, temperatures up to as high as 13 Celsius. There

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will be heavy showers around by Wednesday. Thank you very much.

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