10/01/2012 BBC Wales Today

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Patients like Karen Arthur who had faulty breast implants from a

private clinic will be treated by Our other headlines tonight:

How much you get paid - the wide gulf between pay in the public

sector compared to private companies.

A desperate call tonight from a mother after the death of her baby

- she wants the maternity unit closed.

Ask us what we think - Wales football captain Aaron Ramsey

criticises the FAW in its search for a new manager.

And saving life for 200 years - the RNLI trial their latest equipment

Faulty PIP implants contain industrial, not medical, silicon.

On Friday, in line with rest of the UK, the Welsh Government said it

would pay for their removal and replacement for NHS patients only.

Now that offer has been extended to the vast majority of patients who

had the implants privately if a doctor decides they have a clinical

need. It's been welcomed by patients, although it's unclear how

many women are affected. The offer of NHS treatment comes with a

substantial caveat - patients will have to prove that they have done

everything possible to pursue their private provider. Only those

registered with a Welsh GP will be able to apply. Health Secretary,

Andrew Lansley will clarify the latest situation in England

tomorrow but, tonight, Wales has ventured alone without fully

knowing what the cost to the NHS will be. I know that the clients we

have been acting for will be delighted that the government is

going to come to their aid. What we do think is still the case, however,

it should be clinics picking up the Tapia. The most important thing has

Let's talk to the Health Minister Lesley Griffiths. Why are you doing

this? I have been told that clinically, if we remove him plants

from a woman, the best way is then to put any implant in straight away

rather than have to go through a second procedure. There are also

difficulties. It could lead to an infection or that difficulties.

is estimated around 2,000 women have had these implants in Wales.

How much is this going to cost? think the number will be

substantially lower than that. Our initial investigations are that the

number is relatively low. The difference between removing plants

and putting in new implants is not that great. But this is providing a

safety net for women at risk. There is no firm evidence that the PIP in

plans need to be removed. But the woman must go to her private

provider first to see if they will do it. So you have no idea how much

you have committed the NHS in Wales to spend on this? We believe are

the cost is low. How much is that? I can't give you a firm figure. The

number of women who have had these implants is very low. Our initial

investigations suggest it will only be women who have gone over the

border into England that will have these implants put-in. Why should

the NHS pay for the cost of what are largely cosmetic procedures?

a woman has had them done for cosmetic reasons, she must go to

her private provider, only if she is at risk, and that private

provider should remove and putting new implants are. We would expect

the private provider to do that and if they did not, I would see that

as pretty disgraceful behaviour. What troops will those patients

have to jump through in order for them to have this NHS treatment?

I said, there is no firm evidence that these impasse me to be removed.

If it is found that a woman is at risk, and that has got to be

clinically proven, so she has got to see either her GP or the surgeon

who put an end in the first place. Are civil servants and council

employees paid too much and should their wages depend on where they

live? The UK Government has already announced a review into regional

pay and new figures show that Wales has the biggest gap between what

workers earn in the public sector against those doing comparable jobs

with private companies. Should a way you live determine how

much you earn? At present, public sector pay is equal across the UK.

It means workers in Aberystwyth don't lose out. But some are saying

that public sector workers are feathering their nests at the

expense of the private sector. Not so says a Brian Evans, headmaster

of this Primary School in a town. good teacher is a good teacher,

irrespective of postcode or way you live and your wages should reflect

that. I am concerned that we won't be able to retain quality staff

because people will be unwilling to move to rural areas because they

can get paid better down the road. Figures from the Institute for

Fiscal Studies show that public sector workers are far better off

than those doing a comparable job in the private sector. Women in

Wales can in 18.5 % more in the public sector, even though the UK

average pay gap is 10.2 %. Men in 18 % more compared to a UK average

of 4.6 %. It is estimated that the public, private wage gap in Wales

is the highest in the UK. This woman, who opened a legal practice

just over a year ago, says her company has been a victim of this

disparity. We have encountered several difficulties in relation to

salary. We find that the public sector are able to offer higher

salaries whereas, in the private sector, we are not able to do this.

Introducing regional pay would have a detrimental effect on the Welsh

economy at according to one MP. ban would have a huge impact not

only in terms of morale and recruitment but there would be less

cash circulating in the local economy and the end effect of that

would be a hit on the private sector. If after taking industrial

action over pensions over Christmas, public sector workers could soon

face a fight over wages. The UK government says UK -- regional pay

is not about saving money. public sector pay is significantly

higher than private sector in serious and that inhibits the

private sector from growing. Private sector growth is what those

areas really need. With more than one in four of the Welsh workforce

employed in the public sector, any changes to salaries will affect

many people. The government will receive recommendations in the

summer. Two teenagers who died after their

car crashed on the Horseshoe Pass near Llangollen have been named as

Dale Williams and Jonathon Cassidy- Jones. They were both 18 and from

the Ruabon area. A third man is being treated for chest injuries at

Wrexham Maelor Hospital. A farmer, the first eyewitness at the scene,

has been describing what he saw. Dale Williams and Johnathan

Cassidy-Jones, known as Jonty, were both 18 and from the Ruabon area.

They died when their car left the road at the bottom of the Horseshoe

Pass. Llysfasi Agricultural College near Ruthin paid tribute to their

students, saying they were well liked and talented and hoped to

embark on exciting careers once they'd completed their courses in

forestry and machinery respectively. The third man, understood to be Tom

Pewtner, who also studies there, has been treated at Wrexham Maelor

Hospital for chest injuries but they're not thought to be life-

threatening. He was helped by a local farmer who was first to

arrive at the scene. I pulled up and I saw the gentleman coming up

the bank quite slowly. I stopped and just checked he was OK and then

immediately got on the phone to 999 and thankfully my phone worked. I

flagged down the next group of cars and two fantastic people, a

gentleman and a lady, jumped out and help them down to the calf. I

carried on talking to the emergency services are. The spot where the

Peugeot left the road is attracting flowers and messages in tribute. A

temporary barrier has been fitted where fencing has been damaged.

Emergency crews spent much of yesterday afternoon surveying the

wreckage and collecting evidence. The A542, which runs through the

Horseshoe Pass, was closed for several hours with diversions set

up for traffic. Meanwhile inquests into the deaths of the two men are

expected to be held tomorrow. The plane maker Airbus says moving

part of its wing production to another company in Korea will not

hit jobs at its Flintshire plant. The Broughton factory employs more

than 6,000 people, including about 200 on wing panels for the A320

aircraft. That work is being outsourced to Korean Aerospace

Industries. A murder investigation is underway

after a car hit a 25-year-old man in the early hours of this morning.

Kyle Griffith from Cardiff was taken to the University Hospital of

Wales after the incident in the Docklands area of the city where he

later died. A 22-year-old man, also from Cardiff, has been arrested on

suspicion of murder and remains in police custody.

So the controversial high speed rail link between London and

Birmingham will go ahead and it'll be extended to Leeds and Manchester.

Trains travelling at up to 250 miles per hour will significantly

cut journey times. But what impact will the development of rail

infrastructure in England have here? Sian Lloyd reports.

It's been hailed as a once in a lifetime chance to change the

railways, cutting journey times and increasing capacity. Welcomed by

businesses along the route, but what about this side of the border?

We are spending all this money on a high-speed rail link while in North

Wales, the main arterial route between Chester and Holyhead is not

even a electrified. There are plans to develop this part of Cardiff as

the commercial hub of the Welsh capital over the next 20 years and

it couldn't be closer to the railway line. But there are

concerns from sections of the business community that they won't

be well enough connected. After High Speed Two, it'll be much

quicker to get to London from most major English cities than from

Cardiff. The journey time London to Birmingham will be slashed from 1

hour 24 minutes to 49 minutes - potentially good news for those in

Mid Wales able to cross the border to use the new line. From

Manchester, the current journey of 2 hours 8 minutes will be cut by an

hour. Again, that may help rail passengers in North Wales needing

to get to London. London to Cardiff presently takes 2 hours. Even after

electrification it'll still take 1 hour 43 minutes. Mark Barry is a

business advisor who gave evidence to the parliamentary committee

about high speed rail. I think we all expected that it would go ahead.

Disappointed they have stuck to the originally proposed route going

through Cheryl Gillan's constituency and ignoring the

option of going via Heathrow directly which could have had some

benefits for us in Wales. The route has been controversial in England

for cutting through picturesque countryside, including the

constituency of Welsh Secretary Cheryl Gillan. She'd previously

threatened to resign but eight miles of tunnels have been added to

appease opponents. In the Senedd, First Minister Carwyn Jones

questioned the priorities of the UK Government. If at �500 million can

be found for a one mile town in Buckinghamshire, that money can be

found for valleys electrification and for Cardiff and Swansea

electrification as well. Cheryl Gillan issued a carefully worded

statement welcoming the extra tunnels but insisting the project

was still at an early stage. Much more to come before seven

o'clock: Is anyone going to ask us what we

think? Wales football captain Aaron Ramsey criticises the search for a

new manager. And this was how they used to do it

- we'll be reporting on the new equipment for the RNLI trialled

The mother of a child who died after being born with severe brain

damage says the midwifery unit where he was delivered should be

closed until problems there are sorted out. Noah Tyler was born in

February but died just before Christmas. Today the midwife who

treated his mother was allowed to continue practising.

Colleen and Hywel Tyler from Caerphilly had been looking forward

to the birth of their first child. But when Colleen went into the

University Hospital of Wales in Cardiff to have the baby, she says

things started going wrong. By the time he was born he was not

breathing. He was just white and I did know. They had to take him out

of the room. I thought it was just to clean him up. He had to be

resuscitated because he had died. They managed to bring him back and

spent the next six weeks at the neonatal unit with severe brain

damage epilepsy and cerebral palsy. Noah died two days before Christmas.

The midwife in charge of his care, Julie Richards, has been allowed to

return to work under strict supervision. A hearing today

extended that arrangement for another three months.

After everything we have gone through, to find out this midwife

might be able to go back to work and have her clean slate, where is

our clean slate? The Tylers are planning legal action against the

hospital. Part of the wider scope will be looking at the services in

Cardiff. It is the capital city of Wales and it should have Capital

City standards. Serious policies and procedures need changing. In my

opinion the midwifery than unit being closed down would not be that

drastic. Cardiff and Vale University Health Board has offered

its deepest condolences to the family. It says the individual no

longer works for them and believes appropriate action has been taken.

Colleen and Hywel Tyler are preparing themselves for Noah's

funeral later this week. Though they are expecting another baby

this year, they say the fight for justice for Noah goes on.

Co-operatives may fill gaps left by cuts to public services. That was

one suggestion made today with the publication of the new report

highlighting their worth to the Welsh economy. Co-ops are run by

people working together for the benefit of their members. They're

worth more than �1 billion to our economy and employs 7000 people in

sectors ranging from retail to farming and pharmacy. They have

been outperforming other companies. It looks like any other office but

the workers here aren't just employees, they are also

shareholders and decision-makers. Dulas is a renewable energy company

based in Machynlleth. It was set up as a co-operative 30 years ago.

Since then it has grown into the UK's second largest worker co-op

with a turnover of �22 million. Here is an example of this model.

This would generate about 215 watts of electricity. Ben Robinson became

the company's director of the been elected by his colleagues.

really feel part of the organisation, they make decisions

by consensus. They feel as if they have a say. We encourage people to

participate in all aspects of the organisation. Through to

representation on the board. the company's co-operative ethos

extends to the lunch break. When the company started all those years

ago, members of staff would take it in turn to cook for everyone. With

nearly 100 people working here now that is no longer possible. But

they still make the time to sit and eat a free meal together and share

ideas between departments. At the Senedd today, the Bevan Foundation

released a new report highlighting cooperatives' worth to the Welsh

economy. And the Dulas model is something the Welsh Government is

keen to encourage. At the time of cuts to public services it has been

suggested co-ops could step in. have seen in Neath Port Talbot, for

example, rather than having a service cut workers can take over

the services. Many Welsh co-ops were set up to protect jobs during

the economic downturn of the 1980s. As the country faces similar

difficulties now, it may take co- ops like Dulas to re-energise the

economy. A feast of football. Here's

Ashleigh with tonight's sport. $$NEWLIN Good evening. Former Wales

manager Mark Hughes is back in football tonight. He is the new

boss at Queens Park Rangers replacing Neil Warnock who was

sacked on Sunday. Hughes has been out of work since quitting Fulham

last June. Today he signed a two- and-a-half year contract with QPR

who are currently 17th in the Premier League.

Wales captain, Aaron Ramsey, has criticised the Welsh FA saying it

is disappointing the players have not been consulted about who will

replace Gary Speed as manager. Ramsey is also keen that assistants,

Raymond Verheijen and Osian Roberts, remain part of the coaching staff.

More now from Tomos Dafydd. He is one of the bigger stars for

Wales and Arsenal. Aaron Ramsey usually quiet and reserved, hit out

a bosses at the Football Association of Wales saying players

are unhappy they have not had a say in who should get the national

manager's job. Another countries have had meetings with the FA to

discuss whether they get on. I would have thought they would have

contact did myself for the few other players to ask our opinion.

Continuity, he said, is key to future success. After winning four

of their last five games, Aaron Ramsey hopes Gary Speed's backroom

staff will stay on. For more Wales defender Chris Coleman is about to

return home after a spell in management here increase.

Wales is in a good position. Weather takes the job and, it will

not be easy. I don't think anything should be changed because it is

going in the right direction. If I said I wasn't interested, I would

be lying. The FAW say they have not had discussions with any candidates

and insist it is too early to say whether a new manager will be in

charge for the friendly with Costa Rica next month.

Former Wales striker Ian Walsh has joined me. Is Aaron Ramsey right to

criticise the FAW? You could see where the players are

coming from. They have got every right. There has been progress with

Welsh footballer the last 12 months. The players are quite right to have

their say. In my day, the manager was picked and you played a

respected the manager. Sometimes the players have too much say in

football. On the one hand, they are correct in having their viewpoints

but the FAW want a figurehead to prevent -- to take things forward.

This is a very difficult decision for the Welsh FA. You say they need

a figurehead, who might that figureheads been? And Chris Coleman

and Ian Rush have been mentioned. A Ryan Giggs would be the man but he

is still playing for Manchester United. Chris Coleman has got a bit

of experience at the premiere, he did a good job at Fulham. He was

sacked wrongly in my opinion. All of a certain he is back here are

ready to man it again. Some direct they could step into it. He said he

would take the two assistance as well. It is important the two

assistance are there. But Chris Coleman is his own man and will

want to do things his own way. Cardiff City are away to Crystal

Palace tonight. They have beaten them in the league this season and

that has given them plenty of confidence ahead of some ice's game.

They were having a good run at the time. They had no conceded. That is

obviously good at the time. We have that in at the back of our minds.

We know they array tight outfits and the work hard. If we play like

we have recently, we know we will get the result.

There is live commentary on Radio Wales and Radio Cymru from 7:30pm.

Don't forget the highlights in the League Cup at 11:35pm here on BBC 1

Wales. For nearly 200 years the RNLI has

been saving lives. It is vital crew members themselves stay safe during

rescues. Key to that are lifejackets. The first were

pioneered by the Institution more than a century and a half ago. They

have changed many times over the years. Crews are now to get new

ones and they have been trialled here in Wales. Roger Pinney got an

exclusive first look. Brave volunteers in any era when

the lifeboats were powered by Sale. RNLI crew members are taking to the

sea and life jackets. Cumbersome they may have been but they have

them. Make no mistake about it, life jacket is an essential item of

kit that members of the lifeboat crew can have. It is the absolute

life-saver, on a lifeboat like this they could be at sea for up to 52

hours. It is all about comfort and safety. This did you taken from the

Holyhead lifeboat during search for missing crew members on the cargo

ship that sank last November, shows how brutal conditions at sea can be.

The new life jackets were trial that Holyhead. The crew members

themselves asked what they wanted. These were fantastic. Some of the

better features we have got with the new ones, a fact they can take

the weight off the back of your neck, they are more comfortable to

wear. Two different chambers of air, so in a normal lifejackets, it

would have one single chamber but now we have two chambers. If you

lose 1, we have got the ability to inflate a second chamber. On the

new features, we have a halt by Lisa that comes over the top. If

you end up in the water itself, you are covered. You have that ability

to cover your face and the survival rate is better. It is about

survival. The RNLI prick's pioneered the early life jackets in

the 1850s. Live turkeys have they evolved over the years for some

each development bringing in new materials. -- lifejackets. The

fund-raising stars for a roll-out of the latest design. Their 31

likes Bass is in Wales -- that there are 31 RNLI stations in Wales.

They need to be fitted down with a new life jackets. We are reliant of

the support of the public to help us raise the funds. Don't forget

the RNLI is funded entirely by donations. Crew members say the new

life jackets will make a difference. The conditions they may face a sea

may not have changed over the years but thankfully they will tell you,

the equipment certainly has. Let's get the weather forecast now.

Shouldn't need our lifejackets No need for the winter woolies at

the moment. Been part of the north it is felt more like spring to date.

Her it has also been milder in Nantgarw where Mabel Gough is

celebrating her 107th birthday. Congratulations. Tonight is cloudy

and mild. Some dry weather but also some rain and drizzle million mid

Wales on the north. Temperatures not falling much. Tomorrow's chart

shows high pressure over France with the warm fronts moving north-

east was across the UK. Tomorrow, that means a dull and damp start

for much of the North and north- west. Mist, hill fort and poor

visibility especially an high ground. Much trying the Southend

East. Spots of drizzle possible. Plenty of cloud tomorrow with a

little rain and drizzle mainly in the north. Dry in the South enemies

see glimpses of sunshine. -- and we may see. Thursday might start

bright, a little rain and drizzle but the police picking up. It

should dry in the north. Friday looks a nice day. Dry, bright skies

with sunshine. Over the weekend, Saturday will be dry. With a bit of