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Hello, and welcome to Look North. Coming up tonight:

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We're live at the crunch meeting to decide on plans for a �75 million

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hospital. The �100,000 police force.

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Criticism of plans to increase the number of senior officers earning

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big salaries in one of the country's smallest forces.

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Also tonight, defeat for the campaigners fighting to save a 100-

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year-old beech tree. There is nothing we can do for this

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particular tree. And we meet the blind man on the

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verge of becoming a fully trained scuba diver.

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In sport, there's basketball action as the Wildcats square up to the

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Eagles. And what next for Sunderland

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Football Club as Quinn moves out and the owner moves in?

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A packed meeting is underway this evening that will decide the fate

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of a controversial �75 million emergency hospital at Cramlington

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in Northumberland. The hospital would be built just outside

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Cramlington and would serve a population of half a million people

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in North Tyneside and Northumberland. Adrian Pitches is

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outside the crucial planning meeting at County Hall in Morpeth

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A new hospital, surely that has to be good news?

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It does sound like good news, doesn't it? 60,000 patients would

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be treated per year at the state of the Arc Hospital. -- state of the

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art hospital. But it is bad news for people live -- who lived nearby,

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with traffic disruption. The meeting is under way, as you have

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said, and we are expecting a decision possibly within the hour

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and we will update you later on. Let's hear about the news of today.

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Today there's just a stake in the ground. But within two years a

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state-of-the-art emergency care hospital could be built in these

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fields if the plans are approved this evening. Yes, there are

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concerns from local residents, because there is a housing estate

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and there is a concern about hospital Moyes and helicopter noise.

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Why man said last night that he was a building worker and he needed

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work. This has to be good news. A local man agrees and he has been

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fighting for support for this new plan for the site. A have got a lot

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of people in this area. -- we have got a lot of people in this area

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and this would be their hospital. You come in here and you go out

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alive, and that is the main thing. But over his shoulder live the

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householders whose home will be surrounded by the new hospital

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development. In effect, they say, the home they

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built themselves will become a roundabout. It is the wrong

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location. These roads cannot cope with the extra traffic. The quality

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of life with 60,000 ambulances coming past our bedroom windows 24

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I was a day, that equates to seven ambulances every hour 24 hours a

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day. -- 24 hours a day. The traffic and disruption in people's lives: -

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- in people's lives... Whether that hospital is built could be decided

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within the hour. Its backers say it will save lives. This will allow

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early access for people. So this will save more lives? Cow our hope

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is that it will save a lot more -- our hope is that it will save a lot

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more lives. By this application is recommended for approval -- this

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application is recommended for approval but there are potential

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concerns from the nearby Newcastle airport. We will bring you more

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later. Tonight Look North can reveal new

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developments on the crisis at Cleveland Police. Yesterday we

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heard news from Sean Price its suspended Chief Constable. Today

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we've learnt that he is to be replaced by a new interim Chief

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Constable. The move has been attacked because it would leave the

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force with seven senior managers earning an average of more than

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�100,000 a year. Stuart Whincup has this exclusive report.

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This is Jacqui Cheer. She is the Deputy Chief Constable at Suffolk

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Constabulary. And Look North understands she is currently in

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talks about taking over the top job at Cleveland. But her appointment

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would leave one of the smallest forces in the country with seven

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senior managers. All earning an average salary of more than

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�100,000 a year. And this at time of savings and job cuts. I do not

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feel we can testify to have as many as you are saying at a time when we

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are haemorrhaging police officers. Our figures are dramatically

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decreasing. I have some real concerns over the front line and

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the service we can deliver to the people of Cleveland. Operation

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Sacristy, the investigation into allegations of corruption regarding

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business practices at Cleveland Police, has, according to

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Middlesbrough's Mayor Ray Mallon, already cost more than $1 million.

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And he says the bill the force are having to pick up is now running at

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�170,000 a month. Money is tight and some claim now is not the time

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to be recruiting more managers. is concerning that for what is a

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very small police force we are now talking about seven people earning

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over 1,000 -- �100,000 a year. People will be concerned that we

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are seeing quite a large number of highly paid staff in what is a

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difficult time for the police and when money is in such short supply.

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The authority says while it has nothing but praise for its

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management team in this difficult time, it has been considering ways

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of providing further support. That process, it says, is still under

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way. It says that the reality is that the suspension of the two

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senior officers has led to a strengthening of the senior

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New wind farms and nuclear power stations could create thousands of

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jobs in the North East and Cumbria. But, as we've reported previously,

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some of our communities want an embargo on turbines near their

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homes. And one North East Conservative has backed them,

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accusing the government of getting its policy badly wrong. Our

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Political Editor Richard Moss is at the Conservative conference in

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Manchester. Richard, how strong is the opposition to wind farms?

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We have heard before or about places like County Durham that

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tried to oppose places like this in their communities. Northumberland

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is facing serious planning applications for the countryside.

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It was a Northumberland Conservative who took his bike to

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conference today. She says that her government has got it totally wrong

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and she wants to look at other forms of energy and other parts of

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the country should be taking their fair share. She says Northumberland

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has had its fill. Rural Northumberland is absolutely fell -

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- fed up to the back teeth with people wanting to trash our

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landscape and the subsidy will not help the local people. It will put

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their very small in comes under more pressure on their fuel bills

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and the subsidies will end up in the hands of the German investor

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and they are fed up that we are not seeing any economic benefit and we

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are getting our landscape trashed in the 4th process. -- in the

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process. We also spoke to someone from Sellafield today. Jobs will

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decline there as the business wind down. But he has welcomed the

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government plan for a new nuclear station made by a consortium. He

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thinks it will be a big boost to the West Cumbrian economy. In the

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construction phase we will have 5,000 jobs and there will be more

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beyond that. Sellafield is looking into commissioning the area so we

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will have a steady reduction in employment in the next few decades

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and new investment like a nuclear plant next door will balance that

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out and continue to support West Cumbrian economy for decades to

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come. There was one more mention of the northeast and the conference

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today. Greg Clarke said that he hoped that people in Newcastle but

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next make for an elected mayor. He says that every city needs its

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Boris Johnson. Here's an uplifting story of a man

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who decided not to let his disability get in the way of

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enjoying life to the full. Robert- Ainsley Raffel, from Hexham, was

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born blind. But soon he will qualify as a fully-trained scuba

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diver. Chris Storey went to meet him, and the team of divers making

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his dream come true. Not what it was designed for, but this is how

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Robert Ainsley-Raffel finds his way round his new underwater world. He

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was born blind, but last year he decided he fancied a new hobby, and

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scuba diving is what he chose. is the freedom of aid because you

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are under water and it does not matter. -- freedom of it. It

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becomes a three-dimensional world, really. The British Sub Aqua Club

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were happy to adapt their rigorous training regime to meet Robert's

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needs. Absolutely amazing, fantastic. He is absolutely

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brilliant. His buoyancy is spot on. We have seen him using a stick to

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help him gauge his depth and he is bang on in the water. Absolutely

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fantastic. Because he can't see, all of the instructions have been

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adapted to be conveyed by touch. A tap on the visor means lift your

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mask, a double tap on the arm means let go. And Robert has also passed

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his theory exam with 100 % marks. Soon he will be ready for his first

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dive in the sea. I would like to die for some of the big shipwrecks

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-- or I would like to dive around some of the big shipwrecks. Robert

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is now just one weekend of open sea diving from his open water

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Certificate and he has done that in as little time as it would have

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taken anyone else. Coming up next, find out the fate

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of the Irton beech tree. And he'll never run out of words,

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but the region's longest serving journalist has run out of time, and

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we've been to meet him on his home patch. And in the forecast, the

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colours might be lovely, but the weather is not shaping up as well.

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The five-year battle to save a tree near Scarborough is over.

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Protesters have been occupying the 100-year-old beech tree at Irton

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for the last fortnight. North Yorkshire County Council has been

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trying to cut it down because they said it was damaging nearby walls

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and drains. Michelle Lyons is live in Irton now. Not the result that

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many people were hoping for, is it? Not at all. Behind me there is a

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gaping hole where the tree once stood. For many protesters, they

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could not watch, it was too emotional for them. But for one

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protester in particular, 17-year- old Reddy, it was a four day ordeal

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of being tied to the trees. The council arrived at first light

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this morning to erect a fence around the base of the trees. Cut

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off from the rest of the protesters, Vicky prepared herself for the

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After speaking to a council official, she decided to end her

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first -- four des protest. She spoke of her ordeal. I think we

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have had to accept that there is nothing else we can do for this

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particular tree. Vicky was one of five protesters to occupy the tree.

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One man started two weeks ago today and spent four nights there.

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Charles replace him and then Dave and Robert each spent one night in

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the tree before the key started her vigil on Friday. -- Vicky. Within

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minutes of her descent, the contractors moved in, and the

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protesters wept. After six years of protesting and getting petitions

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and people's points of views across to save the tree, it has not worked.

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It is the heart of the village that is being removed. Just over one

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hour ago, the tree hit the ground with an almighty thud. A five-year

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legal battle costing more than one- quarter of a million pounds was

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finally over. Some of the protesters here have asked for part

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of the tree trunk to be safe for them. They want to turn it into a

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sculpture or a memorial plaque they can keep in the village. They say

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they do not want their efforts to be forgotten. They have set up a

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fund today to set up -- pay for any legal fees that became -- for

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future problems they may be involved in.

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The region's longest-serving journalist is retiring at the end

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of the week. The Northern Echo's Mike Amos has written millions of

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words in a career that spans nearly half a century. And all for just

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one newspaper company. Our Business Correspondent has tonight's Look

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North report. Mike Amos is reminiscing over a

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lifetime of stories. For 46 years he has written about every aspect

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of North East life. He's gone from cub reporter on Darlington's long

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gone Northern Despatch to provider of 250 columns a year on today's

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Northern Echo. But from next week he'll no longer be the company man.

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By and large it has been good fun, not least because in the last 25

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years they have just left me to do my own thing. His own thing is

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writing that has wit, style and erudition. His copy features words

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like coruscating or vertiginous. And the scope is broad. Religion,

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sport, restaurant reviews and dairy columns. His contacts numbered in

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the thousands. I think he has the ability to capture the role world,

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the dominoes, the five and threes, the community halls that he goes to,

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the pubs and clubs, he is touching real people here in the northeast

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and that is why he is so special. And he does it all in spite of not

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driving. Myopia did for that. So he buses, trains and ambles around the

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region. Here he's on the case of a fellow retiree and old school

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friend. Of course he is a bright lad! I enjoy reading the paper more

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than other people do. He is just part of it. The paper will never be

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the same without him. But print is not Mike's only enthusiasm. Beer

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looms large. He's also chairman of football's Northern League, two

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interests that seem to give him older readers and contacts.

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columns probably appeal to older readers who remember the world as

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it wise. I would rather write about the Northern League than the

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Premier League. All of these things in turn tended to appeal to older

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folk and it is up to the Ago to report on these things. This then

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is very much the world Mike Amos writes about. Dominoes, hearty

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crack over a beer, tales of gritty non -league football and equally

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gritty North East characters who enquire 'what fettle' rather than

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'how are you.' And having set it down in millions

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of words it's a world that can never stale. It may not be the real

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world, and for that thousands of readers say, "Thank god". They can

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also give thanks that retirement doesn't mean not writing. If you

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are healthy, which, touch wood, I am, you can do anything. I still

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look forward to meeting great people and being paid to do it. It

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has been a great life. That has been a career, hasn't it?

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It began as a chance encounter on holiday that left a Wearside

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teenager smitten. Now a little bit older, that same woman is devoting

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her life to birds of prey. As well as rehabilitating injured birds,

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Becky Allen is now in business, showing the public around the

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aviary, not out in the wilds as you might expect, but at her family

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home, on a housing estate in Washington. We've been to meet her.

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The main thing for me is doing work in schools and charity work and I

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think it is more of a partnership than a dependants.

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Wings over Washington as a means of education, particularly for young

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people, about these fascinating creatures. Hidden away on a housing

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estate, you'd never know it was there. This is a Harris hawk. They

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come from Mexico and Arizona. This is a bar and I will. She is the

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youngest one that I have got. This one is a tawny owl and he is the

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costliest. -- costliest. This is my grubby as to bird. He will not lead

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you stroke him when he is on the perch. -- This is my most grumpy

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bird. A day out with Becky will get you close enough to handle the

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birds, and then allow you to see Is it right to keep them? Some

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people would say that these things belong in the wild. I totally agree,

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and when we rescue a bird, we try to put it back in the wild if

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possible. If they will be in captivity in the first place they

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should be with someone who will look after them properly. If you

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object to birds of prey being kept in captivity you're unlikely to be

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paying Becky a visit. If you don't, or you're just not sure, getting

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this close the birds might help you Just stunning. I love owls. I could

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watch them all day. We have a story that broke last night. A big one as

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well at the football club. For Niall Quinn began his first day as

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Sunderland's new head of international development today. By

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the end of the week, he'll be jetting off to lead a deputation to

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the Far East. It's all part of a plan put together by the club's

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owner and new chairman, Texan billionaire Ellis Short. And it

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could change the face of the club forever.

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Not long after he and his Drumaville consortium bought the

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club, just over five years ago, Niall Quinn warned he wouldn't be

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chairman forever. But supporters are still in shock at the news that

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he's stepped aside to spearhead the club's international development.

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Maybe, like a lot of people, he just fell out of love with certain

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aspects of the modern game? If you look back over the last five years

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he has brought the club up by leaps and bounds. At the minute, the way

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football is, we have seen mercenaries and people who are more

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obsessed with money than they ever have been. A lot of my friends are

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disenchanted with the way the game is. Of course it was Quinn who

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appointed Steve Bruce. With his main ally out of the day-too-day

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picture, where does that leave the manager? The bottom line with Steve

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Bruce is results. If in the next month or so the result remained

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inconsistent and Sunderland are still struggling to deliver

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themselves then Steve Bruce knows the consequences as anybody else

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does. Bruce will be packing his bags later his week, but only to

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join Quinn and the club's new international marketing director,

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Mike Farnan, on a business trip to South Korea. No coincidence that

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Korea is the country from which they brought in striker Ji Dong-Won

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over the summer. With the club's power base shifting to Ellis

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Short's London HQ, the days of Quinn drumming up support in the

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region's pubs and clubs are a thing of the past. I think when he first

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came in, him and his Irish mates thought they could turn the club

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around, and he said he should put a zero on the end of it. Less than a

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day into his dual role, the new chairman has already made his first

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major decision. Over the summer, away supporters will be moved out

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of their prime spot in the Stadium of Light. Too often the gaps behind

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the South Stand goal haven't looked good for the TV cameras or for that

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global image. A historic moment for a basketball in the region. The

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Durham Wildcats began life in the BBL at the weekend with their first

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top-flight North East derby against Newcastle Eagles. It was watched by

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a sell-out crowd. And it was hot stuff on and off court, as Katie

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Gornall reports. So many people wanted to see this game that they

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had to be turned away. Six years after they were formed, the

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Wildcats are now rubbing shoulders with the Manchester United of

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basketball. They may be the new kids on the block but they are not

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planning to make up the numbers. Those who crammed into the

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auditorium were rewarded with a gutsy performance driven forward by

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the point guard and they made the Eagles work hard for their win at

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the Derby. We are communicating. no point in time did we look like

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we would get blown out of the gymnasium. There was a 22 point

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deficit. It is really all about the players. The Wildcats will take on

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their neighbours again next week and they have proved themselves

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more than capable of holding their own. Some of the players and fans

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looked hot and bothered. It was in 90 degrees Fahrenheit in these

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The now it is time for the weather. One of the great things about all

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some his collar. Here are some really vivid pictures and here are

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some more muted ones. Thank you for her those who send in these

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pictures. Tomorrow be overwhelming colour will be grave. It will be

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wet and windy as well. Let's have a mug. You can see the lines on the

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chart for tomorrow show that there will be some wind Through Wednesday

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and it will be quite wet as well. The wind turns more north-westerly

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and it will be a really biting wind as we head towards the End Of the

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Week. For Friday, it will blow the showers away, and the very end of

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the week looks dry with the best of the sunshine on offer in the east.

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In the meantime, we have got some light rain moving into Cumbria at

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the moment. It will continue its journey as far as the Pennines.

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Every night combination of strong winds and cloud ever had means that

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temperatures will stay well up into double figures through the night.

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On Wednesday, the wettest day of the week, the cloud and Range will

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come in first in Cumbria and they will go into the East through the

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afternoon. These are the heaviest outbreaks of rain for the day

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coming through in the afternoon in the south of the region. Tomorrow's

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top temperatures are up a couple of degrees on Today, 17 up to 19 in

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some regions and even up to 20 and some places. As we head through the

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rest of the week, temperatures will take a battering on Thursday as the

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wind turns north-westerly. It will not even feel as warm as 12 Celsius.

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Some recovery on Friday with has a 15 and a similar pattern -- pattern

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Let's go back to the county council meeting about the state of the art

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hospital. Any news? It has been under way for an hour

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now and as yet there is no decision. We are all on tenterhooks but you

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