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Good evening. Welcome to North West Tonight with Gordon Burns and

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Ranvir Singh. Our top story: Save the city's heritage - Unesco warns

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Liverpool against a multi-billion- pound Docklands development. They

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want to build Shanghai on the Mersey. So how would losing its

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World Heritage status damage the city? Also in the programme: 26 new

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services from Manchester as Ryanair patches up its relationship here.

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Consultants at one of our biggest hospitals pass a vote of no

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confidence in the Chief Executive and other management. Tonight we

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ask if Liverpool Football Club is ripping off its fans?

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And joining the Tatton tea party - how you are helping to set the

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scene for our garden at next week's Liverpool's status as a World

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Heritage Site ranks it alongside the Taj Mahal and the Great Wall of

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China. But that status could be at risk if it approves controversial

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plans to redevelop its waterfront. That's the warning from Unesco -

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the United Nations body that awards the status. Its unhappy with plans

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submitted by Peel Holdings to invest billions in revamping

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derelict stretches of land alongside the Mersey. Our chief

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reporter, David Guest, is there now. Dave. Yes, and that truly is one of

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the world's iconic sights. It was designated a World Heritage Site in

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2004, but what has that meant in practical terms? Well, the status

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is said to have brought great pride to the city, helping build its

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confidence. It has enhanced Liverpool's image around the globe.

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And it has brought extra funding for heritage and regeneration

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projects. But plans to invest billions regenerating the area

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further along the waterfront could cost Liverpool that status if the

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council approves the proposals as they currently stand. It hardly the

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most attractive stretch of waterfront at present, but this is

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how it could look, according to Peel Holdings. They want to spend

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�5.5 billion creating Liverpool Waters - a huge development of

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homes, shops, commercial space and visitor attractions. It would

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radically alter the waterfront appearance, but it's a little too

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radical for some. They want to build Shanghai on the Mersey.

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UNESCO had said this is a bit alien to Liverpool and its historic World

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Heritage Site. After all, we are Mercantile and maritime city.

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key will be to balance the city fit for the 21st century, creating jobs

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and investment, with the need to preserve Liverpool's rich cultural

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heritage. UNESCO fear that the Liverpool Water's plan as it stands

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may well come preside -- compromise the city's World Heritage status.

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The environmental impact assessment did not take into account the

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values for which it was recognised. Some people we spoke to agreed that

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the plan has too many high rise buildings. Everything is getting

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cut off, all the views are going. would like to keep it the way it is

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rather than going for the skyscrapers. And you are from

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America? I am. UNESCO will send a delegation over in the autumn to

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take a closer look at what is planned.

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Are you worried about this? Every development of that has been

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proposed has been controversial. When the live a building was

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proposed it was deeply controversial. When the Liverpool

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Museum was proposed the UNESCO Commission were interested and

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wanted to come over and see it. They satisfied themselves that it

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was appropriate and our World Heritage status remained. We are

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confident that these proposals will not only bring much-needed jobs and

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investment to the city, but will be sympathetic to the World Heritage

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Site status. Are you going to propose -- support the proposals as

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they stand? There has been a dialogue with Peel Holdings. There

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is a dialogue between the planning officers and the developers. As a

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result of that, the planning application will go through the

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planning process and then we will wait and see whether there is any

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further intervention after that. it comes to a straight choice

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between World Heritage status or the development, which is it to be?

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We are firmly of the view that there is no incompatibility between

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the two back. No doubt UNESCO no longer want to see the docks being

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unused. What would it mean if you lost the World Heritage status?

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Were we would be very disappointed but we are quite confident that we

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can do both. That he is coming over in the

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autumn to look at the proposals. That is not the last we have heard

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The World Heritage Centre will be sending a delegation over to

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Liverpool in the autumn to take a closer look at what's planned.

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The budget airline Ryanair is setting up a new base at Manchester

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Airport. They say they will invest more than

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�170 million, fly to 26 destinations and provide hundreds

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of jobs. The move is a dramatic U- turn from the airline which pulled

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out of Manchester just 18 months ago in a row over landing charges.

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Our transport correspondent, Colin Sykes, reports.

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His own flight from Dublin was late, but Michael O'Leary, complete in

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Manchester City shirt, hit the ground running. We are here this

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morning with great news. Ryanair flew out of Manchester 18 months

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ago when a bitter row over fees. Its comeback will see four planes

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based at the airport by next year, servicing 26 routes and 260 flights

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a week. That, it claims, will ultimately safeguard 2,000 jobs.

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think the market has changed here. The tour operators have continued

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to decline. Manchester themselves have reached a compromise. They are

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more keen to get us back and we have learned from our mistakes the

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last time. Falling passenger numbers and increased competition

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are changing the way we fly. It is the passengers who are calling the

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shots. People are always looking for the best deal, aren't they?

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only thing I would say with Ryanair is the amount you have to pay for

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your cases the stock that is the only complaint I have. We always go

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on a package tour rather than looking for cheap flights because

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you have Critics of more flights say the move will increase aviation

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pollution. Air transport comes at a terrible cost to the environment.

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And to the quality of life to the people who live in the vicinity of

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the airport. Meanwhile, as airlines battle for business, Manchester

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Airport is clear about its own way forward. We have seen the decline

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in passenger numbers at Manchester over the last few years and we have

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also seen some attrition with Ryanair passengers to Liverpool and

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Leeds. We want passengers to fly from Manchester.

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Well, I'm joined live now by Simon Calder, travel writer for the

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Independent. What do you think this move says about Manchester?

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means it is being pragmatic. It is the biggest airport in the UK

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outside of London. It has a huge number of really important long-

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haul routes. Its main overseas destination is now Dubai. It has

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always had a problem with low-cost airlines. I remember in the 90s,

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shortly after the Easyjet started, and Liverpool airport suddenly came

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back from the dead. Ryanair, as you have been reporting, fell out and

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left 18 months ago. They have now come back, no doubt tempted by some

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very good terms from Manchester Airport. Frankly, for the main

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there -- the main airport in the north-west not a of Europe's

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biggest airline would be a little embarrassing. As some people say in

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aviation, the Olly thing worse than having Ryanair flying from your

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local airport is not having them. - - the only thing. Some of their

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flights and as cheap as �8. Is that sustainable in the long term?

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but let's be realistic. The average price of a Ryanair flight from

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Manchester will be something like �100 to �120 return. Will it dried

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up passenger numbers? Manchester, like any airport, depends on having

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more and more passengers going through it. They hope that this

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will start to turn things around. Certainly, the effect that Ryanair

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has had on many other reports suggested is the only strategy in

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town. Thank you for joining us. Consultants at one of Merseyside's

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biggest hospitals have overwhelmingly passed a vote of no

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confidence in the hospital's Chief Executive and management. 200

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senior doctors took part in the vote at Arrowe Park Hospital in

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Wirral. Consultants are concerned over a number of management

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decisions, including plans to move vascular surgery from Wirral to

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Chester. Our Merseyside reporter, Andy Gill, has this exclusive

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report. Consultants at Arrowe Park met this

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afternoon to be told that they'd voted by a significant majority in

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favour of a motion which asked them if they had lost confidence in the

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chief executive, Len Richards, and if their relationship with him had

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irretrievably broken down. They voted on management's understanding

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of clinical needs at the hospital. A third vote, critical of plans to

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move vascular surgery from here to Chester, was also passed. More than

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82% of the consultants eligible to vote did so. Although the actual

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figures have not been made public, there is no doubt that this is a

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serious rebuff to the hospital management. One senior source here

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at Arrowe Park Hospital described the result as dynamite. The doctors

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think moving vascular surgery would be bad for patients. Wirral MPs

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have urged the managers to think again. The MPs are concerned about

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how part of that change is being managed, particularly from the

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point of view of the staff. They are raising issues which are

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crucial for a constituents in that our patients in the future going to

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The Isle of Man is to lose up to �75 million a year from its

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revenue-sharing agreement with the UK Government. The cut comes after

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10 months of negotiation. It means a total of �30 million will be cut

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next year, followed by �50 million the year after an increasing to �75

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million in three years' time. Jobs could be lost it Liverpool's

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Tate Gallery. Managers say they are looking at ways to make it run more

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efficiently and are currently reviewing their staffing levels.

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The review will continue until 2013. It's not yet known how many posts

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will go. Thieves have stripped lead from the roofs of a model village

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in Lancashire. It happened at Stanley Park in Blackpool. Hundreds

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of pounds of lead was taken from the miniature buildings. Thousands

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of students around the North west have been putting on mortar boards

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and gowns for graduation ceremonies this week. But universities are

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going through a difficult period as budgets are cut and fees are

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increased. Today, half of our 12 universities have been granted

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permission to charge the maximum �9,000 tuition fees. Our political

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editor, Arif Ansari, is here with the breakdown.

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There are 12 universities in the North West. Of those, nine have

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been given permission to charge the maximum �9,000 a year for some

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courses. And seven have permission to charge the maximum for all their

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courses: Chester, Edge Hill, Lancaster, Liverpool, Liverpool

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John Moores, and Manchester UCLAN. So would that put potential

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students off? For me, probably not. But for lower income groups,

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possibly. You think about it in the here and now. I did it because of

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my interest in the subject, not because of a career Pat. If I had

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to pay �9,000 a year I probably would not have done it. As far as

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volume for a -- value for money is concerned, I think about �3,000 is

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the limit. The increases will affect courses starting next year -

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that is September 2012. But the maximum fee was only supposed to be

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charged in "exceptional circumstances". And this policy has

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caused big problems for the Liberal Democrats, who campaigned against

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an increase in fees and then voted for the policy in government.

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fact clearly show that most of them have gone above the kind of limits

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that the Government wanted to see. The important point is that people,

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from whatever background, will still be able to go to university

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are. Universities have been obliged to

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have their plans approved by OFFA, the Office for Fair Access. OFFA

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accepted every proposal, but in return universities must widen

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access - in other words, attract more poorer students through things

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like bursaries and grants. I hope that it will not put

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students off. They have to understand what the packages are

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that are available to them. We also need them to understand what the

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repayment system is, that they will not repay any loans until they are

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earning over �21,000. universities say that, once

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bursaries and scholarships are taken into account, the real cost

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of a degree will be lower. But will more students be attracted by the

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scholarships or be put off by the higher fees?

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Discuss, as they used to say. Still to come in North West

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Tonight: Join Kate as she inspects the latest donations to our garden

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at Tatton. And can money really make you happy? Where better to

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find out than a party full of lottery millionaires? I went

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through a big phase of spending on cars when I was younger but I have

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settled down a bit now. Booking fees - retailers say it's a

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way to cover expenses. Consumers say it's a way to bump up profits.

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Today the Office of Fair Trading waded into the row, saying fees for

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debit card payments should be scrapped. So what about when you

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pay in person, in cash, something Liverpool football club is doing on

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some of its ticket sales? Fans are not happy. Here's Jayne Barrett.

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Phil McKeown is a loyal fan, but these tickets had him seeing red.

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He didn't mind the ticket price, he did mind and 90p booking fee.

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time did I are paid to -- attempt to pay with credit cards. They

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shrugged their shoulders. I do not like having a go at them but, at

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the end of the day, we are the 12th man and we're getting ripped off by

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the club. Almost all north-west clubs charge a booking fee if you

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pay by card. But pay in cash and the fee is dropped. Today, the

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Office of Fair Trading said it wanted fees for debit cards band.

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In its opinion, they were the online version of cash. So what

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about when it really is just cash? Which? Magazine led the campaign.

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Do they see red with the Reds? is difficult to understand from

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companies why they are actually charging us to turn up at their

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office and hand over cash. When we got to the supermarket we do not

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have to hand over cash for the pleasure of paying for our shopping.

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Liverpool Football Club decided not to put anyone up for interview, but

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they said the removed some booking fees at the start of the season for

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fans who booked in advance. But there are still plenty of instances

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when they are charged. We would have liked to ask them, in person,

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of what the fee was for. Instead, they dodged the question by e-mail.

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"The club is working to standardise fees and provide more consistency

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and transparency." They are ripping off the loyal Liverpool fans to

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turn up in their droves because they want to watch them. Will you

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stop buying tickets? unfortunately not. Chatting to

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these fans, I realised there is a common term in the language of

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finance. It is of not -- it is not even not British, it is not

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Colombian. And it has provoked lots of

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reaction from you on e-mail, Twitter and Facebook. And do carry

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on letting us know what you feel. But here are a few we've had

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already. This was posted on the LFC fans' forum after someone saw our

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lunchtime report, saying, "It's not fair, it's greedy and disgraceful

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that the club are charging loyal fans for paying cash to buy

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tickets." Michael Day e-mailed that he drove from North Yorkshire to

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Manchester to pay in cash for a group of tickets for Manchester

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Pride only to find he was charged a booking fee for each individual

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ticket. He says, "When I protested I was told it was to cover costs

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such as electricity." Happily, Joe Mulvaney from Colne says he's a

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Blackburn Rovers season ticket holder and he's never had to pay a

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booking fee. Do get in touch now if you have a comment and we'll try to

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get more of them at the end of the programme.

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Salford City Reds' new head coach has arrived at the club to take up

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his new role. The Australian, Matt Parish, was introduced to the media

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earlier today. The club's moving to a new purpose-built stadium for the

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start of next season. Parish says he's expecting the players to give

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the Willows a great send-off. like to think that the players here,

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particularly for the guy sitting next to me, will do their best to

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make sure this place is left with the performances it deserves.

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years to the day since they reached an agreement to sign Carlos Tevez,

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Manchester City are likely to reject a bid to sign him by one of

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his former clubs. Brazilian side Corinthians have offered �35

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million for the City captain, which would be his dream, according to

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his adviser, Kia Jorabchin. It is understood City won't consider

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anything less than �30 million. In cricket, Lancashire won the toss

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and decided to bat. A few moments ago, they had reached 99 for seven.

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We've been asking you to get involved with helping to create the

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North West Tonight garden at the RHS Flower Show Tatton Park. With

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just a week to go until the garden has to be ready, we asked you to

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help us accessorised our grown from seed show feature. The brief - a

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pretty vintage finish to the garden. And your response had Kate Simms

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racing round the region. The team have been growing the

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plants for our garden for weeks. The designer needs help with the

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finishing touches. And here is what we need - a small cafe table and

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chairs, pretty china tea sets, Vintage cushions and pretty

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tablecloths and napkins. I have posted an appeal on Facebook and

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tweeted about it. Would you be able to include this appeal about what

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we need for the Tatton garden in the breakfast bulletin? The garden

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is ready but we need your help with accessories for it. By mid-morning

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I have a lead. Time to hit the road. I am off to Liverpool to see Jan's

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china collection. Is this the sort of thing you are looking for?

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have a lot. My mother gave me this little set. On my 20th anniversary

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my mother gave me a tea set. you happy for us to borrow it?

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more than happy. Thank you. Goodbye. So we can take China of the list.

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But then the trail goes cold. Until...

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The Office calls with news about cushions so why Hector the road and

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go to see Judy. We have some vintage cushions. They look great.

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Or they will do once we find a table and chairs. I have some

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things in the back garden. They look perfect. We didn't get them?

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Bingo, and we are on a roll. Colin Sykes is in the area to pick up

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tablecloths. Cushions, tablecloth and napkins and China. That is it,

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mission complete. You will be able to see what are designer does with

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your offerings when we reveal the garden in a week's time. You have

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been very helpful. Thank you very much.

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Good evening to you at home. It has been a real mixture of sunshine and

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cloud today. We have managed to hold the rain off in many places.

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In the next couple of days, but temperatures are not great for the

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time of year. Heading to the weekend, it looks like there will

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be some rain in the forecast. That is because the saviour of low

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pressure moves in. There is a frontal system coming in from the

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Atlantic and, behind it, a band of rain. Tonight will be dry. It will

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be chilly in some rural areas, despite the temperatures sticking

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in double figures. Tomorrow we are likely to see some isolated showers

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in the afternoon but we start off dry and bright in the morning. Some

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cloud may move in in the afternoon bringing isolated showers. It will

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generally be a fine day tomorrow. By Friday we may see some rain or

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showers. Thank you.

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It was launched in 1994 and is one of the country's most exclusive

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clubs. So exclusive, not even Ranvir's a member. Neither is

:25:08.:25:12.

Gordon, come to that. It's the North West Lottery Winners' Club

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and it now includes 254 millionaires. Today they had a get-

:25:15.:25:24.

together at a hotel in Cheshire. Stuart Flinders went along. Deborah,

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more than �5 million. At Nigel and Sharon - more than �12.5 million.

:25:29.:25:34.

Some of them are worth more than a small republic. Do you want the

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exact figure? I cannot remember. Some of them are worth more than

:25:37.:25:47.
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they realise. �24,951,259.40. I have spent the 40p. They got

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together to compare notes - �50 notes, prisoner by. By won in

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February 2004. Have you spent all of it yet? Not all that. I went

:26:05.:26:09.

through a big phase of spending on cars when I was younger but I have

:26:09.:26:12.

settled down a bit now. The region's newest winners, Jeff

:26:12.:26:22.
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and Hillary, are still finding their feet. We won �3 million.

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much have you spent so far? Zeal. Nothing? When did you win? Three

:26:34.:26:44.
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weeks ago. We have been quite busy It was crisps, not caviar. It may

:26:48.:26:58.
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be a time of austerity but there is Work commitments?! I cannot believe

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that. Three weeks after you have won the lottery?

:27:12.:27:21.
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We have some time for more of your comments on booking fees on tickets.

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