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Good evening. Welcome to North West Tonight with Roger Johnson. And

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Ranvir Singh. Our top story: Killed by incompetence - the family of the

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Grayrigg train crash victim blame rail bosses for their mother's

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death. As the two-week inquest ends,

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Network Rail are told they could face prosecution for the failures

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that caused the crash. Also tonight: You had My three-quarters

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of Liverpool's wrote could be getting a new lower speed limit.

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have got two dogs myself, but which you really bring them down to its

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accident and emergency? Tackling the NHS timewasters- find

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out why the Heath Service is hoping comedy can help.

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You'll be able to look inside Lily Savage's wardrobe! There is a treat

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for you! Also tonight: Here's a young man's prediction back in 1986.

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We will to all right. Once again, - - a relationship am sure we will do

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very well. You can't say he hasn't delivered

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can you? We'll be looking back on a quarter of a century of Fergie.

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Network Rail killed our mother - that was a family's brutal verdict

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today as the inquest into the Grayrigg train crash came to an end.

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Margaret Masson died when the Virgin London to Glasgow service

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crashed down an embankment after it was derailed by faulty points in

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Cumbria. The two-week inquest has been told of a catalogue of

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failures by Network Rail. Let's join Peter Marshall in Kendal.

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It happened in seconds. 300 tonnes of train flit through the air at 90

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miles an hour. 88 injured, one dead. The inquest has led some light on

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the feelings of network rail, but not enough according to relatives

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of Margaret Masson, the 84-year-old who was killed. They never learnt

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lessons into Potters Bar. I want a public inquiry. David Lewis, they

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in junior he admitted in tears that he had forgotten to check the

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points. He had highlighted in an e- mail to his boss's that the jacking

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up the track was a shambles. This man was sincere, showed remorse. He

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has got my utmost respect. My family were told anything against

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him. Network Rail has said that his work closely with the a authorities,

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conduct a comprehensive and detailed investigations and made

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substantial changes to its maintenance regime. The daughter of

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Margaret Masson to the inquest has helped her to come to turn to the

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debt of her mother. It has been very difficult. The outcome of the

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inquest, how will that help the family? We will be able to put it

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to bed. Say good night. She was on that train that night, as was

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Caroline Thompson. I feel sorry for the Engineer. Clearly he made a

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serious, dreadful mistake which cost some on their lives, but the

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system should be set up to stop that happening and so the

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responsibility is certainly not his alone. It is yet to be decided if

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the health and safety prosecution will be launched. We can join Peter

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now. Peter, we have had the inquest,

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we've had a big investigation, but the repercussions of this tragedy

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don't end her, do they? This does not end now. Opel get the Office of

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Rail investigation concluding its investigation, and they all decided

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they will bring criminal charges. The Crown Prosecution Service is

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looking into whether it might need a prosecution. There are also calls

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for a public inquiry. What about Network Rail? Lots of criticism

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from the family today. What have they had to say? They have not

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agreed to go on camera for an interview today, but I can expand

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on what they said in their statement. They said it has not

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hidden from its responsibility and quit the except that it was a fault

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with the infrastructure because the accident and we again apologise to

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Mrs Masson's family. Because of the say that there is no safer form of

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travel than the train, but they will continue to work hard to make

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Young people here are more likely to be out of work or not in some

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kind of training than anywhere else in the UK, according to a new study.

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In some areas of the North West, NEETS, as they are known, make up a

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quarter of 16 to 24-year-olds. Judith Moritz reports from Wigan.

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In Wigan a quarter of young people aged between 16 and 24 are not in

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employment, education or training, or groups back-row - - or NEETA. A

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I have been running round trying to find a job for you just. I finally

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found one coming, but it was only for a week. A we found this boy,

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who is currently neither in training or in work. There is not a

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great deal about, to be honest. There is quite a bit in the NHS,

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but there is not a great deal, know. The report said step towns like

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Wigan that have high numbers of NEETA, also have wider economic

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problems and it warns that unless the Government takes action young

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people in places like this fierce long can do that - - a long-term

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difficulties in the job market. The report finds that cricket macro are

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more likely to come in from the north oven and then elsewhere. In

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some places, and to a quarter of young people are NEETA. But down

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south, fewer than 10 % are in some places. It is a tough and implement

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- - unemployment is going up, which is why it is important that we keep

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the kids in schools to ensure they have the training and the skills to

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win the jobs come back will be able to help enter a world of work. At

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this centre in Wigan they provide training to prevent young people

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from becoming NEETA. Why did she want to do nothing with your life?

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It is easier just to come here, get your qualifications and get the job.

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These teenagers get help in preparing their CV, but those who

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aren't studying or working face bleaker prospects. The report says

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this can be affected by where they live.

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The cockle bed in the Ribble Estuary is to be closed down on

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Sunday. The Inshore Fisheries Conservation Authority took the

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decision over concerns for safety. Up to 400 fishermen a day have been

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going out, many without permits and in boats that are unsafe. A plan to

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bring in dredgers to harvest the remaining shellfish has now been

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scrapped. The funeral of a couple from Merseyside killed in a flash

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flood while on holiday in Spain was held today.

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Mary and Kenneth Hall from Bootle were near Benidorm when they were

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swept away in heavy rain. If you drive around Liverpool it's

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going to take you a little longer to get where you're going in future.

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Liverpool Council has voted to make nearly three-quarters of its

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residential streets 20mph zones. It's a joint move which the council

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and health experts hope will save lives. Our Merseyside Reporter,

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Andy Gill, joins us from Liverpool now.

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This is something that the council and the police in Liverpool are

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very keen on. That is because we have a high number of accidents

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involving children. They have done some sums and reckoned that the new

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there were limits could save more than �5 million a year in things

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like NHS costs. Any money they might be see it is obviously a lot

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less important than any lives they could be saved. At present, just

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under a third of Liverpool's streets have a 20mph limit. But

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after a vote this morning, that will increase to nearly three-

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quarters over the next four years. The council says it could mean 54

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fewer accidents a year. Really down residential streets, 20 is plenty.

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There is no place in modern society for people speeding down the

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ordinary street were you or I live. Studies show a child hit by a car

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at 30 has a 50% chance of surviving. At 20mph that rises to 90%.

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fewer children are killed and the severity of their injuries is also

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reduced. We're hoping to avoid accidents, as well as making them

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less severe. The earth money tied the council not be able to afford

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to be done things like speed bumps in all the new roads would the 20

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mile an hour limit will be introduced. Instead it will be

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relying on motorists to pay attention to designs that will be

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going up. - - the signs. Lancashire Council has been experimenting with

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20mph limits in Morecambe. We asked people there what they think.

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think 20 miles per hour makes drivers distract us as they are

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looking in shop windows and so on. He needs enforcement. There needs

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to be enforced straight away so that people know that if the do

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more than 20 they will be going to get penalty points. You couldn't

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make a living driving a cab doing 20 miles an hour. It is going to

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cost more changing all the signs and everything. The new miniature

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blighter residential streets, not a roads. The council is going to

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consult local people on this idea. It says that if there are any

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communities that don't want this limit, then it simply won't happen.

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And we want to know whether you think drivers will stick to it, and

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do you think a 20mph zone in all residential areas is the right

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move? So let us know on Twitter, email and Facebook. Your views are

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already coming in on Facebook. Mark DeeJay says it certainly doesn't

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work in Blackburn! If you slow down to 20, you get flashed and

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overtaken. Time-wasters are costing the NHS in

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this region millions of pounds each year by turning up in Accident &

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Emergency departments when they do not need to. So now a series of

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videos portraying some of the more bizarre reasons why people go to

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casualty has been posted on the internet as part of a new campaign

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to try to stop them. Dave Guest reports.

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They are not in a beauty salon, but in an accident and emergency

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department. The emergency? Well, I couldn't go abroad looking like

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this. It may sound ridiculous, but this is based on a true story. One

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of hundreds of examples of time- wasting in accident and emergency

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departments. Patients to occupy seats year when they do need to

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cost the NHS a small fortune. Here in the north-west alone it reckons

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it added up to �21 million with up wasted resources last year. This

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video is part of a campaign to highlight the problem. Whilst the

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videos are funny, there is an underlying message that patients do

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and 10th accident and emergency departments when they could get the

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trim and in another setting. all the cases they see here are

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quite so extreme, but they say they do see their share of time-wasters.

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People coming in with none acute illness and injuries what they have

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had mumps or years before, but they should be going to their doctor or

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seeking even chemists for advice. The message to us all is please

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avoid turning a minor drama into a medical crisis.

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That is unbelievable, really. The Labour Leader, Ed Miliband, was

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visiting businesses in East Lancashire today and admitted the

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party didn't do enough to support industry when it was in power.

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Earlier this week, Ministers announced new money to help firms

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expand through the Regional Growth Fund. Ed Miliband met business

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leaders to convince them he could do better. But did he succeed? Our

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Political Editor, Arif Ansari, reports.

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He might not have arrived by London bus, but Ed Miliband wants to get

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the regional economy moving. At this business, he spoke to

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businessmen and women about their concerns, but did Labour to enough

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to support industry many government? I think we could have

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done more. I would be the first to say that. Towards the end of her

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time in government, we actually showed how coming out of the global

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financial crisis we got the sense that we need to do more to it

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support manufacturing. Looking to the future, both parties need to do

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more. This week the government announced millions of pounds to

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help businesses create jobs through the regional growth funds. The man

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hosting the visit are sceptical. think it is a good idea for the

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regional growth fund. The issue is getting the money to the company

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that needs it. There is so much red tape. We have not had any grants,

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but still managed to growth done nothing to 1500 employees. What I'm

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saying is I don't think the government, in the decisions they

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are making, have all come up to the scale of the challenge that the

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economy across the country faces. What did the audience make of his

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performance? Very impressed at the way he dealt with such a wide range

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of issues. Obviously, I would like to see more solutions, not just

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ideas. I am not sure he has got the real ideas that will turn things

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around. The reality is that all parties are still trying to work

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out exactly what is needed. 15 years ago, I made a documentary

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for Radio Manchester about Alex Ferguson's 10 years in charge at

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Manchester United. Few people, probably only the man himself,

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would have thought he would still be there to celebrate a quarter of

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a century this weekend. Hard to imagine anyone staying that

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long in the top flight again, isn't it? 1,052 managers have been sacked

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or left clubs since he was appointed. He has won no fewer than

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37 trophies, including 12 Premier League titles and two Champions

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Leagues. This week has been full of tributes to him, but here's what

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the man himself had to say about his time at Old Trafford. It is

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something, you don't think it is going to happen. It is a fairy-tale

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to last so long and I appreciate that. He's nearly 70, and has had

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to rebuild team after team and re- invent his methods as modern

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football has changed. He has. And of course it hasn't

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always been plain-sailing. It's widely thought that a goal by Mark

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Robbins in 1990 that kept United in the FA Cup kept Fergie in a job. He

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went on to win the trophy and the rest is history. A history that

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started in November 1986 when Maggie Thatcher was PM and Take My

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Breath Away, that one from the film Top Gun was number one.

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I think he has got to go down as the best now. No danger about that.

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He is a kind of genius. For me, the best manager of all time in this

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club. To have played under a manager like Sir Alex Ferguson, any

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player dreams of that. I think the main thing is the tremendous

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success in Scotland, winning 10 major trophies in eight years.

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will do all right. Once we get a relationship, we will do well.

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excited about my first game. Looking forward to it.

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You can still see he is driven. We didn't have the best of starts at

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the club, but his application, work-rate and determination to get

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Manchester to the top was evident This is the moment Old Trafford has

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been waiting for since 1967. If he says this is the way you work, that

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is the way you work and if you don't do it, you are out. Walking

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into his office as a young kid, being scared of him, in all of a

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manager like him, wanting to play under him. He gives me a chance to

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play for my dream club. Football is such a funny game, you never know.

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This is a fairy-tale, really. had absence of all generations. It

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is difficult to become the best, but it is even more difficult to

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He has altered to the whole thing, really. Just fantastic. It has just

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been magic. All down to Alex. And you can see more about Fergie's

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25 years, including much more of that interview with David Beckham

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and a special feature with actor and famous United fan Christopher

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Ecclestone on Football Focus tomorrow on BBC One at 12:15pm. A

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quick bit of news on Wayne Rooney. The FA have confirmed within the

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last hour that they are appealing against his three match ban for

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England following his sending off against Montenegro last month.

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Match of the Day comes from its new home in Salford for the first time

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on Saturday, by the way, not far from Old Trafford where United face

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Sunderland, managed of course by one of Fergie's former skippers,

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Steve Bruce. At the other end of the table another of the Premier

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League's Glaswegian managers could do with a change of fortune. Steve

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Kean's Blackburn Rovers, just two places and a point off the bottom,

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take on Chelsea at Ewood. We are playing well, and so I think

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there are a number of games we can take confidence from. We have got a

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settled side at the moment and I think we will going to this game

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full of confidence. In the Championship, Ian Holloway

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will be hoping to celebrate 100 League games in charge at Blackpool

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with their first back-to-back wins since the opening day of the season.

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The Seasiders will certainly be full of confidence after that 5-0

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thumping of Leeds in midweek. Hat- trick hero Jonjo Shelvey said after

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that match that if they play like that they can beat anyone. Millwall

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are the visitors to Bloomfield Road tomorrow.

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The shortlist of 10 players being considered for a rugby league

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statue at Wembley will be revealed tomorrow. It's where Challenge Cup

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finals are held, of course, and it is a safe bet that there will be

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more than a smattering of North West legends in the frame. Here are

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Sean Edwards gets the try! Murphy will kick it.

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You can vote by the way from tomorrow for who you think it

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should be. Just go to the RFL's official website. Horse racing now

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and Warrington's Paul Hanagan is closing in on his second successive

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Champion Jockey title. He's in action at Wolverhampton this

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evening on the penultimate day of racing. As it stands, he is better

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off than his main title rival Silvestre De Sousa, who missed the

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first two races at Wolverhampton after getting stuck in traffic on

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his way from a race meeting in It's got a Rembrandt, a Holbein and

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a few Gainsboroughs, and this week it's got a few Lily Savages.

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Liverpool's Walker Art Gallery is hosting exhibition of her, or his,

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greatest frocks. Eno went along to take a look.

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Her expert guide was a Mr Paul O'Grady. Don't know what he's got

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to do with it. Wild animal prints, mini-skirts and

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big hair are just some of the bare essentials for TV presenters. Paul

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O'Grady's Alter ego Lily Savage has been gone for a few years, but now

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I did de Vere is back. Well, the fabulous frocks are back anyway.

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lot of them are murder. You're just praying to get it off. This is one

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of my favourites. It was never on for very long. It was very odd

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children shouting get them off in their banter. Some of these were

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made in 1992, the earliest one, and to see them all here together, it

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brings back lot of good memories. Good memories for the designer, or

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what makes a good outfit for Lily Savage? Short, tight and cheap. All

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of this stuff costs a fortune. costumes may have cost a lot, but I

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am not sure if it is my style. If I had to pick one of these outfits

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for a night out, it could be this snow leopard suit. This exhibition

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By talking of nicer frocks. I am not calling you a lady in drag, by

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the way! Sometimes you just have to As we have gone to this afternoon,

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lines of showers have been moving north. We had six mm in an hour.

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But as a lot of rain. This is an ugly looking picture around the

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Pennines, with this rain being very heavy. It looks like this heavy

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rain will linger until around midnight tonight, then it starts to

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pull away and will move up over the Pennines. Into the early hours of

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the morning, the picture will change. So, temperatures in parts

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could go as low a seven Celsius. It will feel fairly nippy. We could

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have some mist and shallow fog first thing tomorrow morning. It is

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not willing when you first - - it will not be brilliant when you

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first get up, it'll be cold, but it should look good. There will be a

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lot of sunshine. Patchy cloud around the Pennines, but it will

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not spoil the day. The difference in the weather tomorrow is the

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change in wind direction, which is why it is getting cooler. We have

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gone, subtly wind, to a north- westerly, so you can expected to be

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around 11 or 12 degrees as a maximum tomorrow. The saving grace

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is that the wind is not very strong. For your bonfire night, it should

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be dry, but it will be fairly cool. We will start to see a little bit

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of cloud rolling in, but for bonfire night getting most of the

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bonfires will be finished by them. It will be a cold night. For Sunday,

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this is another nice day and it should be dry and fine. There will

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be patchy cloud and long sunny spells. The temperature isn't

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wonderful. 11 Celsius is exactly what we should be at this time of

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year. Some of thought on the increasing

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number of 20 zones in residential areas now. George Poulson says

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something that many of you are asking. Imposing speed limits is

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one thing, enforcing them is something else. What hope is there

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when motorists will overtake traffic that has slowed down for a

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school crossing, or the scene of an accident? I have experienced both.

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Michael Nicholson thinks there should be variable speed limits,

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20mph at certain times, but at 3.00am, why would it need to be

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20mph? Dean Pendleton poses a different question. Perhaps the

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focus should be on the parents allowing children to play in the

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