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Good evening, welcome to North West Tonight with Roger Johnson and

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Ranvir Singh. Our top story: Former Blackburn captain Garry

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Flitcroft says press intrusion deepened the depression that led to

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his father's suicide. It affected him a lot, something

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was taking out of his life that you love to ring.

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Comedian Steve Coogan tells the Leveson Inquiry that newspapers had

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details of his bank withdrawals. Also in the programme:

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Jailed for more than 80 years - the drugs gang who led police on this

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chase through Liverpool. Everton two, Wolves 1.

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As one broadcaster bows out, we meet the new voice of Saturday

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afternoon football results. And as we prepare to up sticks, we

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look back at our 30 years in Oxford Road and the faces who've made it

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home The former Blackburn Rovers captain

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Garry Flitcroft has told an inquiry that press coverage of his extra-

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marital affairs had a devastating effect on his father, who later

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committed suicide. Mr Flitcroft was giving evidence to

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the Leveson Inquiry into press standards, set up in the wake of

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the News of the World phone hacking scandal. The Manchester comedian

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Steve Coogan also gave evidence today, as Rachel Foley reports.

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Just to warn you, this report does include some flash photography.

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His job as a former Premiership footballer put Garry Flitcroft in

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the public eye. But today he told the press standards inquiry that

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didn't mean his private life should be made public. If I had been done

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for match-fixing or taking cocaine, that is in the public interest, but

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I disagree with them putting it in. Mr Flitcroft believes journalists

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discovered he'd had extra marital affairs by hacking his phone. But

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he said he couldn't prove it. you have any firm evidential phone

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was hacked? It is speculation, no evidence. Flitcroft's evidence

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dates back to 2001, when he gained an injunction stopping the Sunday

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People publishing details of his affairs. That November the paper

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ran the story as an anonymous kiss and tell. Then in March 2002, the

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ban on naming him was lifted. Soon after, Mr Flitcroft's father

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stopped attending his matches because of the taunts being chanted

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at his son. He suffered from depression, which grew worse. Six

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years later, he committed suicide. It affected him a lot. Something

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got it out of his life that he loved doing. Over the years, his

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depression got worse. Manchester comedian Steve Coogan

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also gave evidence today. He told the inquiry his personal details,

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including his phone number and password, were recorded in the

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notebook of the News of the World's private investigator. I saw a

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redacted copy which had information about many I had withdrawn from a

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cash machine, how much I had paid for a hotel built, what hotel I was

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staying in and the precise amount of money I had withdrawn from the

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cash machine which would suggest someone was looking over my

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shoulder while I was doing it. inquiry continues tomorrow, and is

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expected to take several months. A drugs gang from Liverpool who hid

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cocaine in nappy bags and dealt drugs near a school have been sent

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to jail for a total of more than 82 years. The gang included seven

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members of the same extended family. Police also recovered an assault

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rifle and hundreds of rounds of ammunition from a car belonging to

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one of the gang. Our Merseyside Reporter, Andy Gill, has the story.

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Police video of the Mercedes being chased along busy roads. Eventually,

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the driver is arrested. But not before he throws bags of heroin out

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of the window. Police later recovered the drugs. The driver was

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Mathew Mayor, one of 13 people now sentenced for their part in a major

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drug conspiracy. They don't care where they are dealing. They are

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dealing a young people. Again, very vulnerable people. Different

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schools in the Anfield area. Respectable. In January this year -

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- disputable. In January this year, police raided at home of the leader,

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pole winning. Among the gang were seven members of the extended

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Whitney family. Including Paul Whitney's father, mother and sister.

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His mother Carol was video that they back later found to contain

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thousands of Ecstasy tab tablets. The gang operated mainly on the

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streets at Anfield, selling heroin and cocaine. Undercover police

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discovered that they were so well organised they had separate phones

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for day shifts and night shift so people could order drugs. A number

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of raids were carried out in close proximity to a local school. When

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police raided Leslie Whitney's home, his partner tried to pass a nappy

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sack of cocaine wraps to her mother, Mary McCabe. On the same day

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another gang member was filmed loading a case into school a's car.

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Inside, is still an assault rifle and hundreds of rounds of

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ammunition. -- it into Mary McKay but's car. Today, the gang were

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jailed. Meanwhile, three men have been

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jailed for running a drugs conspiracy that could have put more

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than �3.5 billion worth of cocaine onto the streets of the North West.

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Jamie Dale from Rochdale, John Cawley from Fleetwood and Barry

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Hartley from Burnley were secretly filmed by police handling drums of

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imported chemicals were to be mixed with pure cocaine. The Serious

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Organised Crime Agency have made a further 52 arrests as a result of

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the investigation. It's emerged tissue samples taken

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during the post mortem examination of a number of Hillsborough victims

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were retained for further examination without relatives being

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informed. The Hillsborough Independent Panel, which is

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reviewing the tragedy and its aftermath, has written to ten

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families telling them their loved one was affected. It was standard

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practice at the time but, following the Alder Hey organs scandal, it is

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now illegal. It's been confirmed the Liverpool

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Coastguard station will close. But a rescue team is being kept on

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Merseyside. It's part of a re- organisation of the coastguard

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service which will see the closure of eight stations. The station will

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be phased out by 2015, despite months of campaigning from

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residents. A man has been jailed after admitting riding a quad bike

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around town with a three-year-old boy on the petrol tank.

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When Vinny Derrick left his wife and baby son to go on a night out

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in Manchester, he kissed them goodbye, saying he would return the

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next morning. Vinny hasn't been seen since.

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Eight years later, his wife Vicki says her life is still on hold.

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Today she asked MPs at Westminster to change the law to help the

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relatives of those who disappear without trace. Naomi Cornwell

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reports. One day I was part of the family

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and the next day I was a single mum. Vicki Derrick's life has been in

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limbo since her husband Vinny disappeared. After a night out in

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Manchester city centre in 2003 he caught a taxi to a friend's house

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but never arrived. A police investigation was launched but

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found no clues to his whereabouts. In the eight years since, Vicki

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Derrick has gone through the courts to dissolve their marriage but

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despite a lengthy legal struggle she is still unable to come trained

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-- to gain control of their joint bank account or mortgage. Today she

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gave evidence to the House of Commons justice committee as they

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looked at a possible change in the law. You are not only living with

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the fact that your husband has gone missing, you don't know why or what

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happened. We had a two-and-a-half- year-old little boy at the time.

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There is a lot of pressure and not enough help out there. In Scotland,

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relatives can obtain a legal certificate citing the person is

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officially presumed dead. That is not always possible in England.

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can get a declaration of the dissolution of your marriage on the

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basis that your husband has died, but that is a different application

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to making one for a presumption of death to enable you to deal with

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his investments or life policy, for example. So yes, there can be a

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number of applications and the court procedure is, blacks.

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Somebody like me would not normally do something like this -- it is

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complex. I hope we will get a positive outcome that everybody

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deserves. Vicki Derrick hopes other families will receive the help that

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families will receive the help that The Employment Minister was in

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Liverpool today, saying now is the time to get tough in the fight to

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get people off benefits and into work.

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Chris Grayling says he'll do more to help the unemployed to find a

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job, but those people have to do more to help themselves. The

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question is, are there enough jobs out there? In a moment we'll hear

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from Mr Grayling himself. First, here's our Economics Correspondent

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Jayne Barrett. Youth unemployment has hit a

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million, UK unemployment is at a 17 year high. In Liverpool today, this

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was not the kind of chit-chat the Employment Minister was used to.

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The truth is, in my first day I got an interview. Stephen is the

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perfect poster boy for the work programme. Out of work for 12

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months, he is finally back in a job. They said from day one, we can get

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you a job in a matter of months. It was less than that, less than a

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month before I started a sheet. long since she worked? But Stephen

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is in a minority. This is one of the work programmes provided,

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private companies pay to get people into work. Of that of hundred

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through their doors, they found jobs for just 100. Is that good

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enough? I say it could always be better. Are their jobs out there?

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There are jobs out there. number of people signing on

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jobseeker's allowance here has garnered 10% Ind of months. The

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government might want people to find a job but there is concerned

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those jobs do not exist -- has blown up 10% in the last 12 months.

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And up-skilling cause for the unemployed. Some are here because

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they want to be, others are here because they risk losing benefits.

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There are concerns some work targets are unrealistic. People are

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falling over each other for jobs. The expectation is you apply for

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three jobs a week, I am lucky if I can find three a month.

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government says half of those told to do a compulsory four week work-

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experience did not turn up. Now is the time to get tough. The aim is

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to send a clear message, we want to help you get back to work but if

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you will not expect -- accept hub, you cannot expect payments.

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Prime Minister is clear, if people refuse to go to a recommended job,

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they will have to pay a price. No more can people pick and choose.

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Expectations will have to change to match the jobs out there.

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Last night you heard how tribunal courts were awash with appeals

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against benefit decisions. I asked Chris Grayling if he thought people

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were falling victim to a benefit system failing to cope with the

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recession and welfare reform. Clearly we face the challenges and

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there has been an increase in the numbers of people on jobseeker's

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allowance but overall the system is capable of coping. The government

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is losing almost 40% of benefits appeals. That is an awful lot of

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genuine claimants being forced to fight for what they are entitled to.

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The issues around the appeal process, the numbers of Appeal that

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are successful, are part of the system we inherited. The changes we

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put in place this year will, I hope, make that different. Their stock

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about the work programme where anyone out of work for a year is

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mandated to do certain things every week or they lose benefits. Most

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people would say that is fair, but we spoke to someone in Rochdale who

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said he is forced to apply for four jobs a week or were -- all will

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lose his benefits but says he is lucky to see four jobs a month to

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go for. This programme is providing people with tailored support. They

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sit down with a tailored job coach, go through preparation and training

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sessions for individual sectors. But that is a problem, in the

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private sector there are not enough jobs. The truth is I have just come

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from a centre in Liverpool where, as we speak, they are helping

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people get into work. That is happening around the country.

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there enough jobs in the private sector? People are saying to us

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that while there reforms are encouraging them to apply to more

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jobs, there simply are not enough in the private sector for them to

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go for. So they are going to lose their benefits whether they want to

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work or not? That is simply not correct. When you go to a work

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programme provider, we do not apply rules to the interaction, it is for

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them to tailor a programme that works for you individually. If you

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visit the providers and listen to what they are doing, they are

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succeeding today, right now, in all parts of the UK in helping people

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find Chris Grayling, many thanks. -- in helping people find jobs.

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Still to come on North West Tonight: We meet the man with a

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voice that will soon be familiar to football fans across the country.

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And the changing face of news in the North West by the people who

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know it best. Some wonderful I think Stuart Hall might be

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interested in this next item. His beloved Manchester City are

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involved. Manchester City and Manchester

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United play in the Champions League tonight with qualification for the

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next stage of the competition a real possibility for both clubs.

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City are in Italy as they prepare to face Napoli, while Manchester

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United host Benfica at Old Trafford, from where we can now join our

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reporter Ian Haslam. Welcome to Old Trafford, about an

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hour to go ahead of the most romantic of European football

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fixtures if you are a Manchester United fans. It is a repeat of the

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famous 1968 European Cup final which United won against Benfica.

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Not as much at stake tonight there Manchester United know if they can

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get a win here it could seal qualification for the knockout

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stages of the Champions' League. Meanwhile Manchester City in their

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first ever Champions' League campaign know a win in Napoli will

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take them three. Winning at Napoli is something no

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team has managed in Europe for 17 years but the stains it seems

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anything is possible in Manchester City. There is no doubt this has

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been a dream season for Manchester City's their fire and it keeps

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getting better. Tonight they have the chance to make history. It will

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be a very hard game but we know that if we play very well, it is

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important for us to play a very well. It is the biggest thing we

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have to them. There is not a City supporter who is not buzzing about

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it. There is no limit to what we could do. We are excited, but take

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nothing for granted as a City fan. Taking nothing for granted but

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aware of the importance of continued progress in Europe is one

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of the most popular former players. It probably has gone above our

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expectations but the guys know what they need to do, they know what it

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takes, we have got a lot of experience in our side. It has been

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a building process and if we get through it will be a fantastic

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achievement and kick-start the new year. Of course, making the

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knockout stages has been a must for Manchester United. If Basel failed

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to win, victory over Benfica will be enough for Alex Ferguson's side.

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It is a very pressing game for both teams, both want to win, so it

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should make it an open match. Hopefully we will get the result we

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won. -- result we want. A big night ahead here at Old

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Trafford and in Italy where Manchester City are in action

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against Napoli. A warning has gone out to Manchester City fans to be

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on their guard after a number of stabbing incidents involving

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foreign football fans in Italy over the previous seasons. We hope all

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of the City fans return home safe and well with the result they want.

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Fall match commentary is on BBC Radio Manchester and we will talk

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about both matches on tomorrow night's show.

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Thank you. It's a surprising fact that, in all

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the years the football results have been read out on BBC television,

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only two people have been employed to do it. They have had a few

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people in some time to time to cover sick leave.

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You were one of them. I was, but you are about to meet

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the third. One of the most familiar voices to the nation's football

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fans put down his microphone for the final time last weekend. For 16

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years, Tim Gudgin has been the man delivering the news that could make

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or break your weekend. East Fife, 4. Forfar Athletic,

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Time for the finals course, read by Tim Gudgin. Aston Villa and which -

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- and West Bromwich Albion, match postponed because they are playing

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tomorrow. The pools Panel said a home win. Surrey, a no-score draw!

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That is a fine start! And here is the man who will be

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doing it from this Saturday. Mike West, as you know, from BBC Radio

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Lancashire. Congratulations. That is very kind of you. I did not know

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you had done this job! Nowhere near as well as you will do it, I am

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sure! Glen Martin was the first, then Tim Gudgin. Just two in 50

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years, so no pressure. You will be an old man when you finish! I hope

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so! Two consummate professionals. It is great to have a job like this,

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it is an iconic moment in the broadcasting week, the Saturday

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results, but you think, I am following a public treasure who is

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such a good professional. We have got some results for you, we

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thought maybe you could read them. In the real thing you have got to

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read them off the screen that the viewers will see? I have, do I have

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to do that now? I was worried you might give me the Chinese First

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Division! But these results are from the FA Cup quarter-finals and

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That is a TV exclusive! Nobody has heard you do that before. No.

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have been walking around practising, even the other day in Preston in a

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quiet street, I thought, I will have a go. There was a man behind

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me who thought I was bonkers! Now I only practise indoors. Do you have

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to gargle? When you have a hot lemon? I have read Tim's interviews,

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he says he does nothing at all, he has got such a good voice. 82,

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still going strong. I have taken some advice about some old wives

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tales, some people say that spring vinegar and olive oil, sprays that

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you can get, so I am looking into it. I notice they didn't ask me, so

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obviously I didn't do a good job when I filled in! How did you get a

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job like that? I think the editor of the programme wrote to the local

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radio sports editors and kindly my sports editor at Radio Lancashire

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came to me one day and said, do you fancy doing this? I said, well, yes.

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Didn't think any more about it, a few days later, can you send a

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tape? Then, can you send another take? You know Gary Phillips macro

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I did, we used to work together -- you know Gary... Well, very well

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done. Thank you, I am looking forward to it. My team, Everton,

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are the first result I will read out a. We will listen out for any

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bias in your voice! Now, over the years many people

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have occupied these seats. But not for much longer as the BBC bids

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farewell to these studios in Oxford Road and moves to MediaCity UK in

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Salford Quays. Dave Guest is spending this week

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wandering down memory lane. He has been here a few years himself. And

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he's been meeting some former residents of this studio.

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It is 1981 and there is a new arrival at the BBC's Oxford Road HQ.

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Look not West and its successor, North West Tonight, which would be

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resident here for the next three decades. To come to a brand new

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building with brand new equipment and dressing rooms, the luxury of

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having somewhere to get changed every day before the programme was

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fantastic. Welcome to the North West Tonight presenters dressing

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room. Glamorous, isn't it? Over the years, people have come and gone.

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Imagine how many famous faces must have stared into this mirror. Some

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numerical, others you may not, but there is one face no one could

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forget. Good evening to you. After the most dramatic party conference

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season for many years... I have always said it should be

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seen as, the division between network and regional television. --

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it should be seamless. We formed a great team, some wonderful

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broadcasters came through. Detectives investigating the murder

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in Castle to... It is 1983 and a new kit has arrived on the block. I

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wonder what happened to him. But the other new arrival in this year

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was this. With regional news bulletins every half-hour through

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the morning, the Manchester team had to be expanded. We were

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scratching our heads, thinking, does anybody want to watch at this

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ungodly hour? But yes, they did, in quite big numbers. A few years

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later, it Malk into North West Tonight, with a now familiar double

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act at the helm. People used to compare us to Morcambe and Wise but

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that was more about comparing him to a brash seaside resort and me

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Winifred Robinson always aimed to be thought-provoking and she was

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determined to be taken seriously as a journalist. I remember once being

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sent to an exhibition of Japanese artefacts and the producer asking

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if I would dress in a kimono. I remember saying to him, well, which

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you ask one of the male reporters to dress in a kimono? Well, some of

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the chaps were not averse to dressing up. These little fellas

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are all authentic, aren't they? Hello, Chester. The annual food

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appeal was popular for many years that almost cost Stuart Ward dear.

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He contracted bronchitis was on the road and a reaction to medication

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had extreme effects -- almost cost Stuart Hall dear. My wife and son

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came down and said, what have you been doing? I said, the food appeal

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almost cost my life! In 1997, a new, and yet strangely familiar face

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took over at north-western like. was daunting, first and foremost,

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because I had not done live television for a long time -- took

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over at North West Tonight. When I went home every night in this first

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two weeks, I was like an old grandad because, as I sat down when

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I got time, I would fall asleep in a chair because it is very mentally

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stretching doing a live programme. Well, stretching or not, Gordon was

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to spend 15 years in the hot seat. Tomorrow, we will be meeting some

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of the reporters who go to any I can't believe he put himself in

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that! He was just showing how good- looking he was back in the day!

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Lots of presenters, but perhaps only one weather presenter.

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I have been through Gordon, and the pair of you, I will be 156 and

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still standing here! If you are looking for a change in

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the weather, we will see it tonight because we are heading into a

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The many places, it has been a fairly pleasant afternoon. Tomorrow,

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the temperatures will be better, but the weather will not look so

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good. We have hardly a cloud in the sky for many places for quite as

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the hours tonight. This is when temperatures start to dive down. In

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rural areas, easily down to zero, so we are looking at a widespread

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frosts in rural areas. Towns and cities, a three for most places,

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perhaps a six along the coast. For many people it will be the first

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serious frost of the season and you will notice it tomorrow. Away from

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that chilly start, the sun is up at 7:48am, later and later at the

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moment. Perhaps as bottom drizzle in northern Lancashire and Cumbria,

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but anywhere to the south of that predominantly cloudy, predominantly

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dry. The best of the weather today in the Isle of Man and Cumbria,

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tomorrow it will be Merseyside and Cheshire. Couple of hours of

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How many times as your wardrobe changed?

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Very rarely! Not often enough! Can you remember your first day?

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