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Good evening welcome to North West Tonight, with Annabel Tiffin and

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Roger Johnson. Our top story: A double murder inquiry is under way

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in Southport after two elderly women are killed. Police say there

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may be more bodies. I spoke to a couple of neighbours of mine, you

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know, they are very upset. We will be live from the scene as police

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continue to question a 43-year-old man. Also tonight: Voluntary groups

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brace themselves for more cuts as councils start to set their beens.

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They're not welcome here. Residents in Crewe force a council debate

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over plans for a travellers site. Find out how this man, giving a

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kidney to a stranger, meant his Also tonight, Tony's at Manchester

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City where they are aiming to reach the last 16 of the Europa League.

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We will have the sound from Tony in a moment. The game is well and

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truly under way, which is what he was trying to tell you. A double

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murder investigation is under way tonight after the bodies of two

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elderly women were found at separate addresss in Southport.

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Police say they can't rule out finding more bodies. A 43-year-old

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man has been arrested and is being questioned by detectives. The first

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woman, believed to be in her 80s, was discovered at a house on Andrew

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Lansley last night. The second suspected victim was found a short

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distance away in another home. Nina Warhurst has been following

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developments all day in Southport. She joins us live now from there.

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What is the latest you can bring us? Good evening, Annabel and Roger.

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It's fair to say this very quiet community in Southport is shell

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shocked tonight after a most dramatic 4-hours. On Monday night,

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at about... A local man walked into a police station and as a result of

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a conversation they had with police they came to this address almost

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24-hours later. That was at around 5.25pm. They found the body of a

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woman believed to be in her 0s. They continued their questioning of

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the man and around six or seven hours later, in the early hours of

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this morning, police moved on to a second address, less than a

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kilometer from here, where the body of a second elderly lady, also

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believed to be had in her 0s was found. She has been named locally

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as Annie Leyland. Police say there are extra police officers on patrol

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tonight. An upsetting time for people on this street. It's a

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surprise. Certainly a surprise. It's usually very quiet around here.

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It's unbelievable. I feel so sorry for them. I can't believe it.

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honest, the area has been OK, as far as I know. It's one of those

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things. I have spoken to a couple of neighbours of mine, they're very

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upset. What do we know about the man who remains in custody tonight?

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The 43-year-old in custody tonight has been named locally as Andy

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Flood. He is believed to be a freelance taxi driver in the area.

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I was around earlier in the area where he lives. Neighbours saying

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he comes and goes throughout the day and all night. She a busy man

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of the police are stressing tonight that he hasn't at this stage been

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charged. Their investigations remain ongoing. They will have

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details of the post-mortem examination tomorrow morning.

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you very much, Nina Warhurst there in Southport for us. Across the

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north west, councillors are facing a difficult question, how can we

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save more money? Especially, after a year of deep cuts? Budgets are

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being finalised by three councils tonight with others to follow. They

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chopped hundreds of millions last year and shed thousands of jobs.

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What will the coming financial year bring? Like it or not, councils

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have to save money, and lots of. It the really big cuts came last year,

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at the start of their long and miserable mission to slash spending.

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Take manage Manchester, 2,000 jobs lost, as �170 million was chopped

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from the budget for 2011/12. The pain's still not over. Manchester

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must save �250 million over the next four years. In Lancashire,

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1,500 jobs went during that first year of cuts. During the coming

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year there should be no more job losses, but the council still needs

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to find � 19 million worth of savings. Liverpool council has

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1,200 fewer employs and have to find another �50 million this year.

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In Bolton the council is meeting right now to consider how it will

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find �18 million worth of savings for the coming financial years. --

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year. Those who rely on council cash are worried. These children

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are experiencing life in the saddle thanks to a Bolton charity called,

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Bolton Kids Together, which helps autistic youngsters. Autistic find

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it difficult to socialise. We started Bolton Kids Together to

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help parents and families to come into small gatherings and get used

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to each other and the parents can talk to each other as well. Ride

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something one of various activities which the charity organises. This

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is the first time he has been horse riding. When it came up as an

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opportunity we thought we would give it a go. He seems to be loving

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it. It has made a huge difference in our lives and Sam's life and

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calmed him down and making him able to face social situations. Bolton

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Council have been supportive of us. Every penny they cut, we then get

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cut. That is more we have to spend filling in forms and fundraising

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rather than with the children and families that need us. It's not

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just jobs, it's the essential services that our members deliver,

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in terms of working with vulnerable children and vulnerable adults.

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This is the real concern that such huge job losses and such pressures

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on budgets are going to affect thoses services. Bolton's one of

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three councils finalising budgets tonight. What has been the effect

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of the first round of council job losses in the region? Well, the

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news is mixed according to the Centre for Cities, an organisation

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that has been studying the impact of public spending cuts.

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headline statistics for the north west is around 40,000 public sector

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jobs were lost between June 2010 and June 2011. The second largest

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loss out of all the nations and regions in the UK. There hasn't

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been an associated increase in unemployment within the region

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because of that. It suggests that, to date, the north west is managing

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to, sort of, offset the impact that the public sector job losses have

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been having. Now, a tale of two councils with different approaches.

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Preston could become one to raise council tax this year. It says

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charging the average household an extra �9 will help to protect

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services. Even with that extra cash, Preston has to save more than �2

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million over the coming four years. Wirral, however, plans to cut

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council tax by 3%. It's identified �16 million worth of potential

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savings. It is using some of its reserves and government grants to

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make the council tax possible. It is shedding what it describes as "a

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small number" of jobs. That plan goes before the full council on

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March 1st. Thank you very much. A photographer from Liverpool has

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been injured in an attack in Syria in which two fellow journalists

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were killed. The Sunday Times photographer, Paul Conroy, who is

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from Anfield, was injured in the city of Homs. His colleague, Marie

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Colvin and a French photographer died when the house they were

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staying in was shelled. Police say Vinny Derrick, whose bones were

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found by the side of the M60, could have been demild a hit-and-run

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accident. The father of one went missing after a night out in

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Manchester back in August 2003. His remains were found by a workmen by

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junk 3 last week. A Manx politician has resigned over cuts to pre-

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school education. Dudley Butt has quit his role in the Department of

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Education and Children after it was announced that all of the island's

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government funded nurseries will close. The Attorney-General is

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considering call force a new inquest into the death of a teenage

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victim of the Hillsborough disaster. The original inquest into the death

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of Mr Williams concluded that, like all the other 95 victims, he died

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accidentally. His mother has campaigned to have that verdict

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overturned. Today, after 100,000 people signed an online petition,

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her fight for justice was debated at the Houses of Parliament. Andy

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Gill is at Westminster, where he listened to the debate. Why is Anne

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Williams determined to get this inquest hope? All the Hillsborough

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deaths were recorded as accidental. It infuriated the families for

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years. In Kevin Williams' case the coroner decided not to hear

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evidence after 3.15pm. He ruled everybody who died would have been

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dead by then. His mum said she had strong evidence to say that he was

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alive after that. A young Constable said that he died in her arms just

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before 4.00pm that afternoon. they say there is a cut off at

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3.15pm where everyone died, some had died, others were badly injured.

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I know Kevin was still alive. happened at the debate today?

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debate was held in a small room in Westminster Hall. It doesn't have

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the same impact as a debate in the full Commons chamber. Anne Williams

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will be pleased that members from both sides of the House spoke up

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supporting her. Her home MP said it was remarkable she hadn't had a new

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inquest granted yet. A Labour MP stressed the importance of that

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3.15pm cutoff for the Hillsborough families. It has been their get out

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of jail... Free card. They pointed 3.15pm cutoff and claim there was

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nothing that they could do. How wrong they are. They could and

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should have saefd Kevin Williams. What did Anne Williams think of

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what was said today? It has been a fight she has been carrying on for

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20 years. She had three requests for inquests turned down already.

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They thinks things could be moving her way. We are not going to go

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away. It's strong in Liverpool now. People are realising something is

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wrong with Hillsborough. Do you think we would waste our lives for

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23 years if it wasn't to uncover the coverup and give us all peace.

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It's up to the Attorney-General whether she gets her inquest or not.

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He has strict legal perimeters on whether he will do that. He said he

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will approach it with an "open The location of travellers' sites

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is often an emotive issue, and those in crew have taken issue with

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a potential site for travellers. The travellers say they desperately

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need one and without it they will have to make homes on unauthorised

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sites. Joe and his family have lived in Cheshire for decades. A

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traveller by birth, he runs a traveller advocacy group in the

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county because he says many in his community are struggling.

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problem with Cheshire is not enough sides. Sides they don't want to be

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on to, one or two taps between them, housing which they don't want,

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really. Jo thinks this field could help, but the signs make it clear

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how residents feel. The issue is that the site itself doesn't even

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cater to the needs of the travellers. It is too crowded,

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there have been numerous accidents, the local school is overcrowded, it

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is unsuitable. Traveller sites are often caused friction within

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society, but pictures now need to be supplied by law. This is the

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only site in Cheshire East at the moment, of the 146 pitches in the

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county, most are privately owned. The council needs to create 46 new

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pitches by 2016. So far they have only created 11. The council says

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this is the most suitable place for a new site. We want to create

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something near local facilities, not in the middle of nowhere. This

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achieves the balance. Joseph says he has travellers ready to move in.

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We have a list of people, it is unofficial, we are just making a

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list of people because they are asking us to. Residents have hired

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a planet to help them pick holes in the scheme, and they will take

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their concerns to be meeting tomorrow, with a decision expected

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in March. Still to come tonight, selling the silverware, Liverpool

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football legend Tommy Smith on why he cashed in on his medals. And

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given a new lease of life, we will speak to the couple involved in a

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three-way kidney swap. On to sport, and in a rare move, Manchester City

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kicked-off their midweek home match against Porto in the Europa League

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at five o' clock. So you'll not be surprised to learn that Tony's at

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the Etihad Stadium tonight monitoring developments where the

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match must nearly have finished. The first few fans are coming out.

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If they are leaving early I think they have made a mistake.

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Manchester City were 2-1 up, Sergio Aguero scored after just 21 seconds,

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put through by Nigel De Jong, intercepting a Porto clearance.

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Sergio Aguero scored the first, there was a second and then a third

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for Manchester City. Did you hear that? They have just scored again.

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A goal a rout, no idea who scored but I will try to let you know. In

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the meantime, before the game, Manchester City fans were all

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talking about the striker who they are wondering whether to forgive.

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At this time of the season I would have him back, he could score and

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win us the league. We need him, and his abilities. I would have him

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back, simply because of his talent. I would say "do one." we don't need

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him when we have Sergio Aguero. manager is expected to have his say

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after the match in the press conference, but one thing has

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become clear, he could be on the bench shortly. He has been named in

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the squad for the rest of the season, it is 4-0 at the moment,

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now time for some proper legends. Bill Shankly once said that Tommy

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Smith was not born, he was quarried. It will not surprise you to know

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that when he sold his medals at auction he did not shed a tear.

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What might surprise you is that he did not get his most for the

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European Cup medal, but for the 1965 FA Cup medal which raised

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�15,000. He was awarded by Liverpool fans when he left the

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cell in Cheshire, our reporter managed to speak to him and Tommy

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said he understood the sentence and would be a bit upset, but he was

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doing it for his family. I have got my family and they are far more

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important than some medals. I have got memories, things that people

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have not done but I have done. I scored in the European Cup. Which

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means the most to you? The B19 65 Cup final. My mum said to Bill

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Shankly, Liverpool have not won the FA Cup, and she said, "when my son

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does you will win it." I said "mum, you will embarrassing -- you are

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embarrassingly". I was only 15. won the Cup, who was waiting, Bill

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Shankly. I was captain of Liverpool which I am very proud of, in 1973

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we won the league and the FA Cup. Bob Paisley said "the last time we

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were here was in a tank!" that was in a Rome. Everybody burst out

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laughing. A policeman came over and said "what did he say?". Sometimes

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it was a great laugh. A good man, Tommy Smith, some other football

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action tonight, a setback for Blackpool when they played West Ham

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at home and were beaten 4-1. West Ham were already 2-0 up when the

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goalkeeper, Robert Green was sent off, but they went on to score two

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more goals. Kevin Phillips got the consolation for Blackpool. A good

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night for Manchester City, they are up 4-0. They can either play Lisbon

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or Warsaw, I hope it is Lisbon. It will not be any better in Poland. I

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hope it is Portugal. More and more fans are coming past, we will let

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you get away. For six years a woman had been waiting for the kidney

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transplant she said badly-needed. Her husband was tested but he

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wasn't a match and he feared there was little he could do to help his

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wife. But then the couple were told of a scheme they could sign up to,

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which matches are willing donors in pairs or groups of three. And so in

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a rare three-way organ swap Forgan he gave his kidney to a stranger

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and in return his wife got one too. Since the scheme began there have

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been just 20 of these kinds of exchanges, but doctors hope it

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could boost the number of organs available. The transplant was six

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months ago. You look great, how do you feel? Marvellous. I can't

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explain how fantastic it has been to get the kidney. You waited a

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long time. You must feel amazing, not withstanding the fact you gave

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up a kidney to see her look so well. It was instantaneous. Better

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straight away. A simple process, you just have to find like-minded

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couples who are happy to enter a transaction. On the face of it it

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looks like you are short cutting the waiting list but not the case.

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It is just another option given to you. It is a very good option, I

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think. You could wait for years and years otherwise. Was it something

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the doctors suggested to you? He it was five years ago. But, this

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has only happened 20 times, why not more? It is such a precise

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procedure. Everything has to be done so politically, you are kept

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informed all the way through, the consultants and Courtenay does a

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very good. Did you get the call straight away or did you have to

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wait? My court later rang us, and said we have got a possible match.

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Lots of procedures then go on. had some false starts along the way,

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didn't you? Three of four, yes. When you think you have a match and

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then don't, how does it feel? feel very down. Down. You just hope

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and pray there will be a match, they do it every three months.

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said it felt like winning the lottery. Yes, money is not

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everything and it has given me my life back. You could not help your

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wife directly but indirectly you did, that must have made you feel

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better. The yes, much better. Watching her every day on dialysis

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was devastating, or fall. Is it an anonymous process or are you in

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touch with the people who helped you? It is anonymous but we wrote

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to two couples and one of them wrote back and they appreciated it

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as well. Brilliant. Six people have gained from this. You would

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encourage more people to do this wouldn't you? Without a doubt.

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yes. You both look so well. As a footnote to this, if you want to do

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it, talk to a donor co-ordinator at your local hospital. If you want to

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give a kidney talk to your GP or Good evening. Tony confirmed what I

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did not think, Tony said the weather was not getting better, but

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it is. Much better. Tomorrow, 17 degrees could be within our

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forecast. That puts us at 63 Fahrenheit. Not everywhere will get

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that but it is a possibility across the more southern parts of the

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north-west. It has been about the rain today which kept on coming.

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This is our latest picture, the 6:00pm picture, still some rain

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around. It will move away for the next couple of hours and then is

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confined to the Pennine areas. As the rain eases down the rivers

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continue to rise, and will be at a peak over the next few hours. If

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you are concerned, in Cumbria and Lancashire, ask the Environment

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Agency for guidance, this is the phone number. Rain in the Pennines

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tonight, but just about everywhere else should be dry. Many places.

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But there is missed and Merck around, the rain, it keeps

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generating over the higher levels so the totals will continue to

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mount. Temperatures through the day-to-day work at 11 Celsius.

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Through the night they will be 11 Celsius. Incredibly mild. Then look

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at it tomorrow, cloud and drizzle hangs around over the tops of the

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Pennines, the more southern parts of the region, Greater Manchester,

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starting murky, but then the sun starts to work its way through. Not

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a huge amount but enough to make a big difference. If you get a bit of

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sunshine it will allow temperatures to rise. Widely at 13 degrees, 15

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across the more southern parts, No 16 degrees on the maps but there

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Can you remember the infamous and filled cat? We did a story about

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him after a dull football match a few weeks ago. He was taken to the

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animal rescue centre. Guess what he has gone and done? He has escaped

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